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Speaker 1: Welcome to the best of the Week for What's Right

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Speaker 1: with Nick Right the best takes in moments from this

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Speaker 1: week on the show. Enjoy. All right, let's do one

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Speaker 1: quick NFL thing and then get to some listener questions.

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Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley told Reid blank and Ship and Cooper Degene

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Speaker 1: Man did you hold on? Did you know this demand

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to catch up on the archives there.

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Speaker 1: All right, man, oh man, I bet that's an insightful show.

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Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead told him that that twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: Eagles team the top five team in NFL history. You're

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Speaker 1: How true is that? Not only is it not true,

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Speaker 1: it's not even you can't even you can't even make

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Speaker 1: a credible argument for and by the way, Sakuan said

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Speaker 1: they were a top five team of all time and

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Speaker 1: then listed five other teams in his top five, which

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Speaker 1: then would make them. I guess the top six team

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Speaker 1: twenty team of all time. Like, none of this makes sense,

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Speaker 1: But the seventy two Dolphins that went undefeated had the

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Speaker 1: number one offense and the number one defense and beat

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Speaker 1: teams by an average fifteen points a game. That's a

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Speaker 1: top five team of all time. The eighty four nine

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Speaker 1: Ers that went fifteen to one annihilated their po season

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Speaker 1: the greatest defense of all time, which it had, but

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Speaker 1: it also had the number two offense in the sport

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Speaker 1: that year and beat their playoff opponents. De Monse ninety

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Speaker 1: one to ten is a top five team of all time.

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Speaker 2: The Bears quarterback ever thrown from more than four thousand yards.

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Speaker 1: But okay, the defense was amazing, and they had an

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Speaker 1: amazing running game. They scored the second most points of

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Speaker 1: any team in the league that year. The the who

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Speaker 1: are the other teams? I'm leaving out an obvious one

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Speaker 1: ninety two Cowboys pretty good. Seventy eight Steelers which had

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Speaker 1: seven Patriots didn't win the Super Bowl. The the greatest team

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen the twenty sixteen Patriots that went fourteen

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Speaker 1: They were pretty good. Uh, the ninety eight Broncos in

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Speaker 1: were in one score playoff games in rounds one in

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Speaker 1: rounds two? Now, did the Eagles have a top five

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl performance because of what they did and who

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Speaker 1: they did it to? Sure? All listen to that. You

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Speaker 1: time final two games by just dismantling the Commanders and

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Speaker 1: top five? Yeah, but they still scored fifty five, you

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Speaker 1: but I just again, everyone just leave the list to me.

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Speaker 1: Your guys lists suck. And again I just and he

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Speaker 1: wouldn't even it was so his top Here were his

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Speaker 1: two Dolphins because they're undefeated. Good job, eighty five Bears,

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Speaker 1: good job the two thousand Ravens, who it's not even

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Speaker 1: that's not even like a thing, and so I just

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Speaker 1: after our pod.

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Speaker 2: So you unveiled your latest rendition of Club Superstar, and

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Speaker 2: how the club management goes about getting these guys in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so all right, so tell me. So, here are

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Speaker 1: up Halliburton, Brunson, Joker, Shay, Luca, Jannis, braun Steph, Donovan,

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Speaker 1: consistent and so durable that you know, one season long

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so who would you would you have any of

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Speaker 2: That's what I was I was trying to think of.

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Speaker 2: I mean, uh, yeah, Anthony Davis is the because.

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Speaker 1: In line was Wimby, Cad Shingoon and Devin Booker. Wimby

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand how Donovan Mitchell slips in.

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Speaker 1: There the sorry can you hear me? Sol Demons?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I've got you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good, Sorry about that, my I knocked my AirPod

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Speaker 1: tough one. And the argument against Donovan is, you know,

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Speaker 1: because do I think Donovan could have you know, made

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Speaker 1: a tricky spot. Donovan is for a guy who hasn't

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Speaker 1: like you know what I mean. It's up huge numbers,

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Speaker 1: and Brew raised the question do we not have twelve superstars? Right?

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Speaker 2: That's the other thing I was kind of thinking, but

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Speaker 1: It's a weird because the league is so deep on

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Speaker 1: What are your follow ups here? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I care to explain how Joki took Lebron's throne.

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Speaker 1: That was an editorial choice made by the artist Jack Perkins,

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Pure Hoop and listen. I give him the lists.

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Speaker 1: He makes the picture. I gotta tell you, I wasn't

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Speaker 1: guess Jokers earned it for now. But yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: I'm okay with Lebron being moved out of the throne

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Speaker 1: because he's no longer in the argument the best player

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Speaker 1: thing about the Lebron rankings that is so irritating to

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Speaker 1: me at times, people keep primative surely downgrading him because

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Speaker 1: Like you, the Lebron is anywhere you You could fairly

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Speaker 1: argue for Lebron to be as high as fifth and

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Speaker 1: as low as tenth best player in the league. But

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Speaker 1: Bill's ranking specifically is the he still has Steph Curry

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Speaker 1: as like the seventh best guy. There's no there's there's

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Speaker 1: no way to look at this NBA season and say

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Speaker 1: Steph was better than Lebron, not by stats, not by

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Speaker 1: Now you can say his team made it one round

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Speaker 1: team success this year was because they traded for Luca.

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Speaker 1: STEP's team was sub five hundred when they traded for Jimmy. Like,

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Speaker 1: Lebron obviously still superstar. Steph's obviously still a superstar, and

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Speaker 1: that's you know, that's where we're at all, right.

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Speaker 2: Next, do you think that Halliburton still would you still

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Speaker 2: given him a spot if he would have lost in

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Speaker 1: No? Now, I submitted this list before round one was over.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that I submitted this list the

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Speaker 1: morning after Halliburton executed that insane comeback on the Calves.

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Speaker 1: And so maybe I, you know, maybe I was kind

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Speaker 1: of in the afterglow of that. But he's proven me

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma City dominated Minnesota. Last night, the defense was humming

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Speaker 1: it's a ton of stuff that theoretically they could use

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Speaker 1: in trades, but it's not like oh Man, that could

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Speaker 1: be the third pick of the draft. Okay, so this

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Speaker 1: year they have the fifteenth pick from Miami and the

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Speaker 1: twenty fourth pick from the Clippers, at least I think

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Speaker 1: fact checked me in the because I don't have this

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Speaker 1: year's pulled up. Fact check me in the doc if

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong about this year. But they the then next year,

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Speaker 1: what they have. They have Houston's pick next season protected

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Speaker 1: one through four, So Houston, we think Houston's going to

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Speaker 1: be quite good next year, so a late pick next year.

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Speaker 1: And then they have I want to make sure I

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Speaker 1: get this right, the Clippers pick next year. So I

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Speaker 1: think the Clippers showed us this year that they are

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Speaker 1: going to be at least a credible team, and so

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Speaker 1: are those are fine picks, but none of those appear

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Speaker 1: or feel like those are going to be, you know,

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Speaker 1: I lottery top ten picks, right. And then they have

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Speaker 1: Phillies pick next year potentially, and again they only get

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Speaker 1: two of these, So these are the best ones they

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Speaker 1: could get. Phillies pick if it falls outside of the

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Speaker 1: top four, and Utah's pick if it falls outside of

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Speaker 1: the top eight. The moral of the story is next

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Speaker 1: year they are going to have a bunch of extra picks,

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Speaker 1: and they all look like they are not going to

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Speaker 1: be lottery picks because Utah is the only team on

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Speaker 1: that list that is likely going to be in the lottery,

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Speaker 1: and Utah likely is going to be able to keep

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Speaker 1: their pick because it'll be in the top eight. In

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven, they again they get the Clippers pick,

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Speaker 1: and that's unprotected. Maybe that could be good. Maybe, and

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Speaker 1: Denver's pick, which, assuming Joker doesn't retire, is not going

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Speaker 1: to be that good. And in twenty twenty eight they

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Speaker 1: can swap with Dallas. Again, do we think Dallas, now

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Speaker 1: that they have Cooper Flag and Anthony Davis is there,

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Speaker 1: that that's going to be a top five pick? No,

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Speaker 1: And then that's really I think they have one more

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Speaker 1: Denver pick later, but again, unless we think Joker is

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Speaker 1: going to retire. So the point I'm making in a

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Speaker 1: somewhat convoluted fashion is it's a lot of stuff, but

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Speaker 1: it's not great stuff. Now the argument there would be demons. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but they can package that stuff for a star. And

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Speaker 1: that then gets to to me the next interesting domino

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Speaker 1: for the Thunder, which is, yeah, are they going to

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Speaker 1: want to be expensive? Are they going to want to

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Speaker 1: for the first time in franchise history be a big

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Speaker 1: luxury tax butt up against the apron type of team.

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Speaker 1: And my answer to that question is I don't see

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Speaker 1: why they would now. And you can say, well, they

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Speaker 1: want to check right, correct, right, They didn't want to

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Speaker 1: pay it then, And you can be like, well, but

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Speaker 1: now they won a championship. That could cut either way.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you would be like, they want a championship now

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Speaker 1: they just want to win, win, win. They also want

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Speaker 1: to be like, we want a championship without having a

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Speaker 1: super expensive team, so why do we need one? And

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Speaker 1: so it is a different NBA guys, and it's a

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Speaker 1: different NBA. Also in this regard the onl like the

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Speaker 1: guys who have reeled off a bunch are guys who

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Speaker 1: are top ten all time players. The one guy who

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Speaker 1: is pretty consensus outside of the top ten who reeled

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Speaker 1: off even two is Isaiah Thomas, and he's firmly in

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Speaker 1: the top twenty, but outside the top ten. So Joker

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Speaker 1: would have checked those boxes. Little Unlucky some Jamal Murray's injuries,

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Speaker 1: you know, Jannis could have potentially little Unlucky, uh didn't

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Speaker 1: have you know, this type of pick Bounty though, to

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Speaker 1: be fair in Milwaukee, to make up for some of

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Speaker 1: those mistakes. And I'm not saying Shay is not Shaye.

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Speaker 1: I said all year was the MVP. But it is

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Speaker 1: surprising to me how many people who a month ago

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Speaker 1: were quite convinced the Celtics were about to reel off

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Speaker 1: a bunch of championships are now convinced the Thunder are

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Speaker 1: about to reel off a bunch of championships. And so

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Speaker 1: I you know too long, didn't listen all time single

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Speaker 1: season team. Yes, set up pretty well for the future. Yes,

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Speaker 1: going to win this championship without a doubt. Yes, ready

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Speaker 1: to pencil them in for multiple titles. No, So that's

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Speaker 1: where I land on Oklahoma City. They will be in

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Speaker 1: the mix for years to come, but as a lot

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Speaker 1: of teams can attest, in the mix doesn't really buy

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Speaker 1: you anything in the modern NBA