1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast DAM paranormal 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: podcast network. Now get ready for another episode of Shades 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: The thoughts and opinions expressed by the host our thoughts 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: and opinions only, and do not necessarily reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: Coast to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: sponsors and associates. You are encouraged to do the proper 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: amount of research yourself, depending on the subject matter and 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 2: your needs. 10 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: Hi. 11 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 4: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been 12 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 4: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death. 13 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 4: On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know 14 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 4: that our loved ones have survived physical debt, and so 15 00:00:55,800 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 4: will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. I have 16 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 4: a special guest today who had a rather unusual start 17 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 4: in believing in the afterlife. Scott Allen is a former 18 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 4: funeral director and embalmer and is now a well known 19 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 4: evidential medium appearing around New England. He is also a 20 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 4: teacher and host of the Enlightened Life podcast and Spirit 21 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 4: Talk Live. Scott is the author of a brand new 22 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 4: book called In the Presence of Light, a funeral director's 23 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 4: journey from Morning to Mediumship. You can find out more 24 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 4: about Scott at his website, which is Mediumscotallan dot com. 25 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 4: Scott my friend, Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. 26 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 3: Well, hello, thank you for having me. This is wonderful. 27 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 4: Oh, I'm so happy to talk to you. 28 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 3: Now. 29 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,639 Speaker 4: You had a very unusual start. Tell us a little 30 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 4: bit about you. 31 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: I know you're in. 32 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 4: New England, but tell us a little bit about the backstory, 33 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 4: because this is an unusual one. 34 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a little bit. I grew up in Massachusetts. 35 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 3: I've lived here my whole life. My grandparents owned a 36 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: flower shop and we would deliver to the funeral homes together. 37 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: And I think that was sort of a point in 38 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 3: which I realized this was the path I needed to 39 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 3: go in, and I thought that I could inject a 40 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 3: little more compassion into it than I thought I was seeing. 41 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: And that wasn't entirely accurate. I was a young mind 42 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 3: that didn't quite have life experience yet to understand. You 43 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: can't walk around with grief everybody else's grief all the time. 44 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 3: But I think I was experiencing this empathy, this empathic 45 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: side that I didn't even know what it was. It 46 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: wasn't a name for it back then. That's what started 47 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: me in the funeral business. And so I got in 48 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 3: and started mowing lawns when I was just sixteen years old. 49 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: And one thing led to another. I went to college, 50 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: and I went to funeral service school, and you know, 51 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 3: when all was said and done, I owned three funeral 52 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 3: homes and had been on the Massachusetts Board of Directors 53 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 3: for the mass Funeral Directors Association. But all of this 54 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: other stuff was starting to happen. I was noticing when 55 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: I was at the funeral home. Then I was aware 56 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 3: of spirit. And as I look back on my life, 57 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 3: I can see that it was like that right from 58 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: the beginning, but I didn't recognize it and I did 59 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 3: not know what it was. And then when I got out, 60 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 3: that's when things started to really ramp up a little bit. 61 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 3: But that's how I got into the funeral business, and 62 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 3: I did it for quite a long time. 63 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 4: How long were you in it? 64 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: Thirty five years before I got out, so now it 65 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: has been over forty. 66 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 4: Years, thank goodness. Now this is kind of a weird question, 67 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 4: but I love people, I love life, but there's something 68 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 4: about the dead bodies, whether it's animals or humans that 69 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 4: I think many of us human beings can't get our 70 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 4: heads around how someone could work in that field, even 71 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 4: though we're grateful that you do. But was that easy 72 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 4: for you to just go into that? Did you just 73 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 4: care about people knowing that there's still people? 74 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 3: I had sort of convinced myself that I would learn 75 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: to deal with that part of it as long as 76 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: it meant that I could care for the living. That 77 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 3: was the thing. I was there for the living, and 78 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 3: because that was the primary concern, I would learn to 79 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 3: do whatever else I had to do to do it. 80 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 3: It wasn't that I wanted anything to do with the deceased. 81 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 3: It was just that's part of the johop. It just 82 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: goes with the territory. And so I remember feeling that, 83 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 3: testing the waters a little bit and seeing that. I 84 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 3: felt I was a little in over my head at first, 85 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: but over time I got used to that because the 86 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,799 Speaker 3: rest of it was my purpose. 87 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 4: That makes sense. You care about people. I've seen enough 88 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 4: on TV and those who work in funeral homes or 89 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 4: very loving to the bodies. There's still people. The lady 90 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 4: who does my hair, her and her sister, both hairdressers. 91 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 4: In the evening, they'll go to the funeral home. And 92 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 4: they said they talked to the people and they do 93 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 4: their hair and want them to look the best, and 94 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 4: they believe in the afterlife. So it's nice. It's a 95 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 4: nice tribute. You mentioned, Scott that you started feeling more 96 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 4: being kind of open to the afterlife. What kind of 97 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 4: experiences did you start having that you started looking okay, 98 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 4: there's something more here getting into mediumship. Tell us about 99 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 4: that journey. 100 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 3: I can go back to the point. I was about 101 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 3: seventeen years old, and I remember we had gotten a 102 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 3: call that someone had passed unexpectedly and it was an 103 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: unattended death, and the police had called and asked us 104 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 3: to go to the place where they were waiting, and 105 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: I remember asking the man that I work for, how 106 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 3: do they know he's dead? How do they know he's gone? 107 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: And he just sort of brushed me off. I said, 108 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 3: just I mean, I don't know, it's not my part 109 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 3: of the job. Just go. But I couldn't get it 110 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: out of my head. And finally he was pulling the 111 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 3: car out of the garage and as I was walking 112 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: over to get in the car. The phone rang and 113 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 3: it was the police and they said, don't come. We 114 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 3: found a breath in him, so he was alive still. 115 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 3: And it was this thing that I had been focusing on. 116 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 3: That's probably one of the earliest recollections, and that was 117 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 3: quite a few years ago, and I didn't chalk it 118 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 3: up to being psychic at all. As time went on, 119 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 3: I remember just knowing that they were around me, and 120 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 3: that's something that's really hard to explain to someone who 121 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 3: doesn't have this ability. But I could feel them. I 122 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 3: knew how tall they were, how short they were. I 123 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 3: could hear them coming up and down the stairs. And 124 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 3: I still wasn't thinking, my gosh, I must be a medium. 125 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 3: I thought, this place is haunted. This is crazy, because 126 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 3: I had built the place from the ground up. I 127 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 3: learned over time that it wasn't the properties that were haunted. 128 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: It was me that was bringing them through. And that 129 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 3: took me a while to kind of figure out. But 130 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 3: they were there, and I started to notice little things 131 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,679 Speaker 3: like that I would catch people out of the corner 132 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 3: of my eye. I would think about someone and I'd 133 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,559 Speaker 3: get a call the next day that they had passed away. 134 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 3: There were a lot of different things like that, but 135 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: the big ones were just knowing they were there and 136 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 3: being able to actually feel them, the electricity around them, 137 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 3: and to know that they were around and walking, like 138 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 3: I said, down the hallways, up and down the stairs. 139 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 3: Sometimes I'd smell sense perfumes, colognes. I'm alone. There's no 140 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: way I should be smelling that right now. So those 141 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: are the kinds of things that started to happen, and 142 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 3: to be honest, it was a little frightening for a while. 143 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 3: It's funny because when I got out of the funeral business, 144 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 3: that's when things ramped up. And I really wasn't thinking, 145 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 3: oh my, I must be a medium. I'm thinking, what 146 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 3: is this? Why do I have this attachment to me? 147 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 3: Why is this spirit after me? And so I would 148 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 3: go and I reached out to a paranormal group hoping 149 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 3: they would be able to help me, and they couldn't, obviously, 150 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 3: but they did seem to think that it was me 151 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 3: and not the location, which made me not feel any better. 152 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 3: I have to be honest with you, that was not 153 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 3: something that made me feel good. I wanted to know 154 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 3: that it was just something but not me, you know, 155 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 3: anything but me, because I didn't know how I would 156 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 3: get rid of it, how I would stop it if 157 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 3: it was me. 158 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, Scott, did you ever know anything about the person, 159 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 4: whether you're embalming them or being a funeral director for 160 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 4: the families that maybe you shouldn't have known and just 161 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 4: knew something about the person. 162 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 3: That's a good question, and I don't know if I 163 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 3: can answer that. I guess the answer is I'm not sure. 164 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: And the reason is number one. I wasn't thinking that 165 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: I had any kind of ability at all. But I 166 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: also knew we were in a small town, so I 167 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 3: knew a lot of the people that came through. So 168 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 3: sometimes I already did know things. I knew their family, 169 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 3: but not always. There were moments that I would say, 170 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 3: more than anything, it was this kind of empathic like, 171 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: why do I feel this? Whatever this is? You know, 172 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 3: why do I feel like this? I don't know that 173 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 3: I was getting, you know, memories or thoughts or anything 174 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 3: about them, but I could have been. It's been has 175 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 3: been such a long time. I don't remember that specifically. 176 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 4: That's no problem. After I'd taken a couple of medium 177 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 4: classes myself, and not that I'm a practicing medium, but 178 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 4: I remember this woman made a delicious fish recipe and 179 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 4: she had told me that her mom had passed and 180 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 4: her adopted mom. Both of them loved to cook. And 181 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 4: I said, oh, which one taught you the fish recipe? 182 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 4: Was it Doris or Edna? And she looked at me 183 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 4: like that stone cold face, and she says, I never 184 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 4: told you their names, right, so that it gives me 185 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 4: goosebumps to this day. You know, I do think we 186 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 4: are all mediumistic, but do we train ourselves? Do we 187 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 4: tap into it? So that leads me to the next question. 188 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 4: How did you make the from funeral director owning the 189 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 4: businesses and get into mediumship? You said you started off 190 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 4: with paranormal, but at some point you took medium classes 191 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 4: and said, hey, this is what I want to do. 192 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 3: Well. I had meta medium along the way, and when 193 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 3: nobody could help me, I reached out to her and 194 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 3: I said, listen, I don't know what's going on. I 195 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 3: have this spirit after me. I hope you can help me. 196 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 3: And she's the one that told me I was a medium. 197 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: And I thought, oh God, there's no chance I'm a 198 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 3: large There's no way I'm a medium. But you know, 199 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 3: I mean I joke about it, but I really didn't 200 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 3: believe her. It took a long time for me to 201 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 3: wrap my head around it. And she introduced me to 202 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 3: someone who is a medium and a shaman, and her 203 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 3: thing was helping people open up and control it, because 204 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: I definitely needed to have help controlling it. And even 205 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 3: then I was humoring her, but she told me, I 206 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 3: want you to just practice, like just say, humor me. 207 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 3: You know, have friends of friends you don't know, and 208 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 3: just sit with them and tell them what you get 209 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 3: and see what they understand. So I was sort of 210 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 3: humoring her. I really was. I told friends about this 211 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 3: and that they thought it was funny. They didn't believe 212 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 3: it either, but they would bring their friends over and 213 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 3: I'm coming up with names and you know, all kinds 214 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 3: of things. And it got to the point where they 215 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 3: were then telling their friends, and their friends were telling 216 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 3: their friends. So now I'm like doing readings all the time. 217 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 3: I don't have time for this. I still have a job, 218 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 3: you know, I still had to work, and so I thought, 219 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 3: maybe there is something to this. So I decided I 220 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 3: would take some classes, and I did, and I ended 221 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 3: up taking the first one that I could get, which 222 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 3: was actually an advanced Mediumship class, and I thought, I 223 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 3: don't know if I'm going to be able to keep 224 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 3: up with some of these people, but ironically I did, 225 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 3: and I was reading some of the people there and 226 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 3: getting names, and I thought that, you know, this is 227 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 3: just not something I'm used to. So I took a 228 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 3: few more classes and studied with somebody in New Jersey, 229 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 3: studied with Joe Shield from Journey Within in Palmpton Lakes, 230 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 3: and did some online work and some development circles, and 231 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 3: I started to believe that it was real. But it 232 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 3: took a long time. We're talking a few years before 233 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 3: I really was willing to accept it. Because when you're 234 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: a funeral director, you don't talk to the dead people, 235 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 3: they'll run you out of town. I always say you 236 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 3: can join the Lions Club, but that's about as it gets. 237 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: You know. 238 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 3: You don't get into anything else beyond that, you know. 239 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 3: So I didn't know what was happening. I mean, once 240 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: I learned it, I said, okay, I think the thing 241 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 3: that kind of resonated with me is that when everybody 242 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 3: was getting their friends to call me, I thought there's 243 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 3: got to be something to this at that point, and 244 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: then I had to learn to trust it. 245 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 4: Don't go anywhere. There's more of my interview with medium 246 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 4: Scott Allen when we get back. You're listening to Shades 247 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 4: of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 248 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 4: a paranormal cast Network. 249 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 5: Stay there, Sandra will be right back. Hey the Coast 250 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 5: to Coast channel chasm dot com for more information. 251 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: Hey, this is George Nori and you're listening to the 252 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast DAM paranormal podcast Network. 253 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 6: Thanks for being here. 254 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: Now let's get back to more with Sandra. 255 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 4: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain 256 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 4: and we're here with medium Scott Allen, author of the 257 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 4: new book In the Presence of Light, a funeral director's 258 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 4: journey from morning to mediumship. Scott, you were just talking 259 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 4: about once you learned mediumship. 260 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 3: Once I learned it, I said, okay, I think the 261 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 3: thing that kind of resonated with me is that when 262 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 3: everybody was getting their friends to call me, I said, 263 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: there's got to be something to this at that point, 264 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 3: and then I had to learn to trust it. 265 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 4: Well, that's it, trust and have confidence, because with every 266 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 4: medium reading is it me Is it my thoughts and 267 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 4: feelings and memories or is it them? And so mediums 268 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 4: are really out in most skinny branches, trusting what they're 269 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 4: getting is for the other person. 270 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And that's why I don't want to know anything 271 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 3: going into a reading, because I have a hard time 272 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 3: understanding what's mine and what they give to me. So 273 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 3: if I know too much, I can't read you to 274 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: kind of go in cold, and then I can be 275 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 3: a little more objective. 276 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 4: That makes sense, Scott, What is it like for you 277 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 4: as a medium? Do you feel? Do you see? Do 278 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 4: you hear? A little bit of all of the above? 279 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 3: A little bit of everything I hear occasionally, it's funny. 280 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 3: The only one that I can honestly say I don't 281 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 3: get a lot of is the hearing. But when I do, 282 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 3: I trust it because it's so right on. I had 283 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: a reading this weekend. I was in Naples, Florida, doing 284 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 3: an event. I was sitting with this woman and I 285 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: don't remember who was coming through, it's not important, but 286 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 3: she said, I wonder if there's anybody else here besides 287 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 3: this person in my head? Said anybody else with you? 288 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 3: And I heard the name George. I went, oh, George 289 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 3: is here, she would, Oh my god, that's my father. 290 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 5: You know. 291 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 3: It's bizarre, but that happens not all the time. Lately 292 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 3: it's been happening a little more than it used to. 293 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 3: But I see, I'm very visual, clairvoyant, clear cognizant. You 294 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: just kind of know. And the sentient is pretty strong too. 295 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 3: And that can mean both physically clear sentient like physical feelings, 296 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 3: but it can also be emotional. And that's another one. 297 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 3: You know, how do you describe, well, I feel proud, 298 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 3: or I feel love, or I feel whatever it is, 299 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 3: And how do you feel that for some buddy or 300 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 3: something that you don't even know, that you've never met. 301 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 3: It's like it's not yours. They're giving it to you. 302 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 4: And correct me if I'm wrong, But you experience it 303 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 4: like you're in their shoes, Like you could be talking 304 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 4: to someone that you've never met, like you said, and 305 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 4: feel tremendous love for them or whatever that is. Is 306 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 4: that how it occurs for you, like you're in there 307 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 4: it is. 308 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 3: It's kind of odd. And not to make it sound 309 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 3: creepy because I bring it on. Oh I know, but 310 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 3: you know, I do a lot of readings by zoom 311 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 3: I read for people all over the place. So if 312 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 3: I'm sitting here, there have been times I've said to people, 313 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 3: my god, I feel like your dad is right here 314 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: and I just want to reach through the computer and 315 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 3: give you a big hug. And he's telling me that 316 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 3: he wasn't a hugger. He wasn't even an I love 317 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 3: you guy. But he's learning from that, and they, oh, 318 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 3: my god, he never was a hugger. It was like 319 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 3: to beg him to give you a hug because he's 320 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 3: doing it now, you know he really knows that, and 321 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 3: you just feel it. I don't know how to explain that. 322 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 3: It's like sitting in a warm bath and you're just 323 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: sort of encased in it. I don't know how else 324 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 3: to describe it. 325 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 4: That's okay. That's why I always recommend people take a 326 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 4: course in their psychic and medium abilities. You don't ever 327 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 4: have to go on and be a medium, but just 328 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 4: to know how the spirit world works with us, well. 329 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 3: It's difficult for everybody, don't you think. I think I do. 330 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 3: I think it's different from person to person. 331 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, But just knowing how your soul works 332 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 4: and getting that little taste of knowing something you shouldn't 333 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 4: know or about people. It takes us from a hoping 334 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 4: that there's an afterlife and a faith to really knowing, 335 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 4: because sometimes those images or feelings they give you have 336 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 4: these holy cownt moments like I couldn't possibly know that 337 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,479 Speaker 4: I couldn't possibly have guessed. So would you tell us 338 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 4: some stories? I know the books just come out in 339 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 4: the presence of light. I'm so proud of you for 340 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 4: doing that, for creating it. Tell us some of the stories. 341 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 4: You know that most of our audience here today has 342 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 4: a loved one who has passed. Looking for that evidence 343 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 4: that we go on. 344 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 3: Well part of the book. I do share some experiences, 345 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 3: and they're not long. There's short, little experiences that I've 346 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 3: had readings, and you know, the names and places have 347 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 3: been changed, as they say, to protect the innocent. But 348 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 3: I'd love to share one with you that I think 349 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 3: was kind of cute, and if you don't mind, I'll 350 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 3: just read it to you. It's not terribly long, sounds great. 351 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 3: As a psychic medium, I've had the privilege of witnessing 352 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 3: countless poignant and heartwarming moments, but none quite like the 353 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 3: one I shared with a man named James. He came 354 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 3: to me seeking a connection with his mother, who had 355 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,959 Speaker 3: passed away three years earlier. It was a quiet longing 356 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 3: in his eyes, the kind that only comes from missing 357 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 3: someone deeply. I felt her presence almost immediately. She emitted 358 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 3: a warm, loving energy that wrapped around us like a 359 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 3: familiar embrace. Your mother wants you to know that she 360 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 3: loves you very much, I began, my voice, soft but steady. 361 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 3: She wants to thank you for keeping her at home 362 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 3: with you until the end, she says, she heard you 363 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 3: when you spoke to her, And thank you for playing Elvis. 364 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 3: A flicker of recognition crossed James's face, and his eyes 365 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 3: welled up with a mix of relief and sadness. Thank you, 366 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 3: he uttered. Then, with a bittersweet smile, he added, you know, 367 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 3: I played Elvis on the radio for her the day 368 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 3: she passed. She loved his music. Was one of the 369 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 3: last things we shared. As we let the moment settle, 370 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 3: I felt a sudden shift in the energy around us. Then, 371 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 3: like the soft tinkling of a bell, I heard gentle laughter, 372 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 3: light and playful, a sound so pure it lifted the 373 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 3: heavens from the room. She's laughing, I said, my own 374 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 3: smile widening at the unexpected delight. She said, there's something 375 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 3: you all forgot, something about her pantyhose. You forgot to 376 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 3: put them on her. She always wore her pantyhose. James 377 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 3: looked puzzled, furrowing his brow. Pantyhose, he repeated, slowly searching 378 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 3: his memory. I don't remember anything about that, yes, I confirmed, 379 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 3: feeling the insistence from his mother's spirit. She's quite adamant 380 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 3: about it, and she finds it really amusing that it 381 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 3: was overlooked. Still looking doubtful, James shook his head. I 382 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 3: don't know about that, but I'll call my cousin. He 383 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 3: was one of the pallbearers. Maybe he'll remember something with that. 384 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 3: He stepped outside to make the call. I waited, feeling 385 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 3: the loving, playful presence of his mother lingering. Her laughter 386 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 3: was an affirmation of contentment, as if she knew the 387 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 3: surprise that was about twentyfold. A few minutes later, James returned, 388 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 3: his face a mixture of disbelief and amazement. You won't 389 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 3: believe this, he said, sinking back into his chair, still 390 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 3: processing what he had just learned. I called my cousin, 391 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 3: and he said. When they closed the casket. Before we 392 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 3: left for the cemetery, they opened the bottom section to 393 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 3: lower the bed, and that's when the pall bearers noticed 394 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 3: she didn't have any pantyhose or socks on. Her legs 395 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 3: were bare, but they didn't think it was a big deal, 396 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 3: so they didn't mention it to anyone. Ironically, my mother 397 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 3: didn't go anywhere with her pantyhose. We sat there in 398 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 3: silence for a moment, absorbing the weight of this revelation. 399 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 3: It was as if the room had stilled in reverence 400 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 3: to what had just been shared. That's incredible, James finally said, 401 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 3: his voice hushed with awe. It's like she knew exactly 402 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 3: what happened even after she was gone. I nodded, a 403 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 3: deep sense of connections settling in the room. It's a 404 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 3: reminder that the spirit remains aware of what happens in 405 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 3: this world long after they've left it. Your mother wanted 406 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 3: to share this with you, to know that she's still 407 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 3: with you, aware of the details of your life, even 408 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 3: finding humor in them. And you know, I find that 409 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 3: a lot in readings is that people will come through 410 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 3: and share moments that you or the sinner has experienced 411 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 3: since the passing of the person that's here. It's really 412 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,959 Speaker 3: about the continuity of consciousness, I think, And in this 413 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 3: particular case, you might say, well, that's not such a 414 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 3: big deal, and it's not. But it's something amusing for 415 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 3: the woman who never left home without her pantios and 416 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 3: then she didn't have them, and to chuckle about it 417 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 3: and to let them know that they've forgotten, not in 418 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 3: a way that was accusatory or mean, but in a 419 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 3: way that they could understand that she was still very 420 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 3: much aware of what was happening even after she passed. 421 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 3: That's what's so magical and so beautiful about what we do. 422 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 4: That story is priceless because so often you can get 423 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 4: a generic medium reading you know this as well as 424 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 4: I do. To have those specifics and to feel her presence, 425 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 4: I was filled with goosebumps when you talked about the 426 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 4: panty hose, and of course Elvis too. Those are those 427 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 4: little things that no one can know, and they let 428 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 4: you know I'm still here and talk about your belief 429 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 4: about the hereafter. Clearly we still have our personalities. 430 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 3: Yes, yes we do. I think when we cross it's 431 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 3: more of an a awareness of what our personalities were 432 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 3: when they were here, and how everything we did had 433 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 3: a ripple effect, good and bad. The things we did 434 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 3: that helped people, the things we said that may have 435 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 3: hurt people. That doesn't mean that's how we are, but 436 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 3: it is what is familiar to us. And I really 437 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 3: believe that. You know, we talk about a judgment and 438 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 3: people have their views about what that judgment really is. 439 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 3: I think we judge ourselves more harshly than anyone else 440 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 3: would judge us, and it's because we have that awareness. 441 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 3: But the sense of humor stays, the quick wit will stay. 442 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 3: Sometimes there's colorful language and that will stay. And it's 443 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 3: just meant to help the person that's sitting with us 444 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 3: know that we really have the right person. I mean, 445 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 3: let's face it. If you had someone came in that 446 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 3: used four letter words all the time and then they 447 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 3: come to looking like mother Teresa, you're probably not going 448 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 3: to recognize. The pact may give you. Something that's going 449 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 3: to remind you. 450 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 4: Is your book filled with stories? Tell us what's in it? 451 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 3: There are stories, there's a lot of stories, but it's 452 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 3: really one chronological story from the time I was a 453 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 3: little boy growing up. My friend John and there's a 454 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 3: story about him in there and how he passed. And 455 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 3: it's a little bit of a ghost story because that's 456 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 3: what it turned out to be at one point, as 457 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 3: I was figuring out what all of this stuff was about, 458 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 3: and then moving beyond that and working with Spirit and 459 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 3: meeting actress Forbes Riley, who if people don't know who 460 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 3: she is, she's been on the Hallmark Channel, she's been 461 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 3: quite a few different movies, but she's also was one 462 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 3: of the top hosts on QBC and Home Shopping Network. 463 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 3: She saw millions of dollars worth of stuff, and I 464 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 3: had an opportunity to meet her and read for her 465 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: on the air, and that sort of propelled things, and 466 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 3: I started reading for people in Alaska and Canada and 467 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 3: England and where that's in there. So it is a 468 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 3: lot of little stories, but it's one big story. I 469 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 3: feel like some of this, too, was channeled. There are 470 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 3: readings that I did when I was delivering messages to people, 471 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 3: but I also wrote a poem at the beginning and 472 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 3: a poem at the end, and it's not a book 473 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 3: of poetry at all. There's only two, but I really 474 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 3: feel like they were channeled. One is about being exactly 475 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 3: where you're supposed to be even though you don't see 476 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 3: it at the time, because we've all had those moments 477 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 3: that are difficult, right, I call them desert periods. And 478 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 3: then the other is waking up a new light in 479 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 3: the presence of light, because you are now exactly where 480 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 3: you're supposed to be. 481 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 4: There are some very wise and warm words coming from 482 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 4: you today, Scott. It is time for our break, So 483 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 4: when we get back, we'll talk more and perhaps even 484 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 4: hear those poems. We'll be right back. You're listening to 485 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 4: Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast, 486 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 4: a paranormal podcast network. 487 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 5: Stay right there, there's more Sandra coming right out, the 488 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 5: best afterlife information you can get. 489 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 3: Well, you're alarm. 490 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 4: Shades of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. 491 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 5: Hey everyone, it's producer Tom of Coast to Coast AM 492 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 5: and more Sandra starts right now. 493 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 4: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain 494 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 4: and we're here with medium Scott Allen, and he just 495 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 4: said within the pages of his book In the Presence 496 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 4: of Light, he's got two poems. 497 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 3: One is about being exactly where you're supposed to be, 498 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 3: even though you don't see it at the time, because 499 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 3: we've all had those moments that are difficult, right, I 500 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 3: call them desert periods. And then the other is waking 501 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 3: up a new light in the presence of light, because 502 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 3: you are now exactly where you're supposed to be and 503 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 3: everywhere in between. In that book is this story of 504 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 3: transformation and change, and I think a lot of people 505 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 3: can resonate with this. May not be the stories of 506 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 3: the same, but we've all had moments where we've thought, 507 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 3: why is this happening to me? And you realize later 508 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 3: on that it was all meant for a reason. 509 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you in the toughest times that 510 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 4: we can make no sense out of a couple of 511 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 4: years down the road looking back, and you say, oh 512 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 4: my gosh, this is what I learned. And the next 513 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 4: thing you know, you're sitting next to somebody on an airplane. 514 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 4: These are my stories, and I realize I'm just where 515 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,479 Speaker 4: I need to be at the time. Because I'd not 516 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 4: gone through that, I could never have this conversation and 517 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 4: I could never make a difference. So trust the process. 518 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 3: Can I read you a short little poem there? Yes, 519 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 3: And this is one of those I really feel like 520 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 3: it's channeled. It's the first poem in the book, and 521 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 3: it's called the Passing of Time. It says time moves quietly, 522 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 3: almost unnoticed, carrying us forward. Days slip through our hands 523 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 3: like leaves in a breeze, with moments collecting in the 524 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 3: corners of our memory. We watch ourselves change, evolving with 525 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 3: every passing year. The laughter, the heartache, the moments of stillness. 526 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 3: Each one shapes us that we don't always see it. 527 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 3: With every ending, there is a sense of loss, a 528 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 3: quiet letting go of who we were, of the familiar, 529 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 3: the comfortable. But in that letting go, there is also 530 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 3: space space for something new to emerge. A new chapter begins, 531 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 3: quietly at first, but filled with possibility. We walk forward, 532 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 3: leaving parts of our ourselves behind. Time passes, but it 533 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 3: does not leave us empty. It carries us to where 534 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 3: we were meant to be, into the light of a 535 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 3: new beginning, where we find ourselves once again in a 536 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 3: form we never could have imagined. And that's how I 537 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 3: start the book, because that really is what happened. That 538 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 3: is my story, sort of in a nutshell, all this 539 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 3: stuff that I went through from the time I was 540 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 3: a little boy, until I discovered what mediumship was and 541 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 3: that I was a part of this. There were many 542 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 3: times I thought, why am I here? Why am I unhappy? 543 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 3: Why is this not where I want to be? Why 544 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 3: am I having to do this? And yet I can 545 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 3: look back now and say it was preparing me for 546 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 3: something I never could have imagined. 547 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 4: Beautiful words. So we should all just kind of trust 548 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 4: the process. Obviously, we need to take action towards our dreams, 549 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 4: need to be proactive, not just sit around waiting for 550 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 4: the life and universe to happen to us. But really, 551 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 4: to just get where you are is okay, and it's 552 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 4: part of a bigger purpose. 553 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 3: I don't think anyone gets dragged along to a place 554 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 3: where they don't want to be, because I think that's 555 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 3: part of what makes this so magical and special, is 556 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 3: that spirit will point you in the direction, but it 557 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 3: will also somehow change your outlook so that it is 558 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 3: something that becomes your hope and dreams. I mean, I 559 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 3: can't imagine doing anything other than I do now, except 560 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 3: there was a time when I couldn't imagine ever doing 561 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 3: what I do now. So I think they adjust you 562 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 3: to go along with your purpose. 563 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 4: I like it, how would you recommend people stay in 564 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 4: touch with their loved ones who have passed. Do you 565 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 4: think they're always around us, keeping the eye on us. 566 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 4: Can we just talk to them? 567 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 568 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 3: I believe so. And you know, just sort of funny. 569 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 3: I had reading here with three sisters came up to 570 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 3: visit me from New Jersey and while they were in 571 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 3: the car, they were talking about different things that they 572 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 3: wanted to do, you know, whether was to I don't 573 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 3: even remember, take a trip, go, you know, whatever it was. 574 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 3: And when they got here, Mom came through and brattled 575 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 3: off four or five things that they had just been 576 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 3: talking about in the car. That is the proof that 577 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 3: they really are with us. I believe they are with us, 578 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 3: and they're not somewhere else. They're just here. All you 579 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 3: have to do is talk. But I think we all 580 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 3: have the power to be a little psychic, a little mediumistic. 581 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 3: I think the key is to just stop, breathe and 582 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 3: listen to the quiet, you know, whether it's soft music, meditate, 583 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 3: whatever it is that you do, stop and shut the 584 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 3: world off. Because they will talk to you. You just 585 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 3: have to ask and trust and trust. Absolutely. Trust is 586 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 3: such a big thing. 587 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 4: You could get a thought from a past vacation or 588 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 4: something you did together, or you laughed till you cried. 589 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 4: Sometimes thoughts and memories come out of nowhere and we 590 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 4: chalk it off, Oh that's just our imagination. But I 591 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 4: think those are their little calling cards. Remember when we 592 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 4: did this, Remember when we did that? 593 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 2: Right? 594 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 4: And I love those things. 595 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 3: It's true. It wasn't a thought in your head a 596 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 3: moment ago, and it's a thought now, and that's sometimes 597 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 3: planted there. 598 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 4: That's how they communicate beautiful words. Scott, with our time left. 599 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 4: Your website is Mediumscottallen dot com. We can find your 600 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 4: book there in the Presence of Light and on Amazon 601 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 4: and everywhere you buy books. But also you're a host 602 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 4: of two podcasts. Will you tell us a bit about 603 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 4: them and what we can find on your site? 604 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely so, Spirit Talk Live. I believe we'll be 605 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 3: sunseted this year. I think we're moving beyond that. That 606 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 3: is the live version of a podcast where people can 607 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 3: call in and talk. But I've moved on and I 608 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 3: think I'm constantly evolving. The Enlightened Life podcast is audio only, 609 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 3: but I've been able to reach professionals from all over 610 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 3: the world who are doing this work and it's about 611 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 3: empowering people to believe in the power of spirit, to 612 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 3: believe in themselves. So the Enlightened Life podcast is every 613 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 3: Thursday morning. It'll go live at five point thirty Eastern, 614 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 3: but they've been recorded ahead of time. 615 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 4: And what can people find listening to the podcasts? Is 616 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 4: it similar to finding out about the afterlife? What life 617 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 4: is about, tips and things for living in an empowered life, 618 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 4: all those sort of things. 619 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 3: All that kind of stuff. I mean, not everyone that 620 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 3: comes on as a medium, but a lot of them 621 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:41,479 Speaker 3: are very much centered and connected to this world, the 622 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 3: world of spirituality. But we have different you know, as 623 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,239 Speaker 3: we have a woman that's coming on that is a 624 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 3: real expert in taro. I've had one that came on 625 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 3: from Australia who somehow connects spirituality and yoga and all 626 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,239 Speaker 3: of these other things. So it's there, you know what 627 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 3: I mean, They're all there. And we've had people come 628 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 3: on that have worked with people who have had near 629 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 3: death experiences, and so that's kind of the gist of it. 630 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 3: But it's not all mediums. 631 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,720 Speaker 4: Which is good. I always like to recommend good people, 632 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 4: good podcasts. Now people are listening to this one, I 633 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 4: trust they like it, but there's other topics and things 634 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 4: that maybe I don't discuss that maybe you will, right, 635 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 4: So it's nice. So that's the Enlightened Life podcast. 636 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 3: Enlightened Life. 637 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 4: The easiest way to find them is through your website 638 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 4: Mediumscottallan dot com and Alan is a la m. 639 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 3: Yes, and they can also go on there and book 640 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 3: a reading with me if they want, or book me 641 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 3: for a live event. I do travel. I just got 642 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 3: home from Naples. I'll be in Colorado Springs in June, 643 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 3: and I'm kind of everywhere in between in the short term. 644 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, and also I have my show. One of 645 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 3: my episodes is coming out February first, I think Saturday 646 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 3: at nine pm, and that is through Paraflex, but will 647 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 3: also be on Amazon Prime Video once the entire season 648 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 3: is uploaded. So that's called Dark Echos, So that'll be 649 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 3: out as well. 650 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 4: Dark Echoes. Okay, and now it's already out for the 651 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 4: people that are listening to this right now, you'll have 652 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 4: it on your site right. 653 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 3: I will put a link to it on my site. 654 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 3: There is a streaming service called Paraflex for people to 655 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,919 Speaker 3: like go stuff. It won't just be there, it's going 656 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 3: to be on Amazon Prime Video, but only after the 657 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 3: full season has been released on Paraflex will they get 658 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 3: it on prime video? 659 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 4: And what's the context of the show? 660 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 3: They picked me up, dropped me down into place and 661 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 3: say what's here? 662 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 4: Pretty much, no kidding. 663 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, this particular episode took place in Bath, Pennsylvania, at 664 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 3: a restaurant called the Bath Exchange, and they've been having 665 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 3: some issues with spirits and a little bit of Poldergeist 666 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 3: activity going on there as well. And I don't know 667 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 3: anything going in, so they don't share anything with me. 668 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 3: But I went in and did a tour with the 669 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 3: owner and was sharing things that she was able to 670 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 3: make sense of. And it's just an interesting concept. We 671 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 3: begin filming season two next month. 672 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 4: I love it. I'm proud of you. I'm being bold 673 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 4: asking this, but could you read the poem that's in 674 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 4: the end of your book? 675 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 3: I would love to, so, Like I said, there's only 676 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 3: two and the one is. 677 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 4: What you said. But you'd started us off right, and 678 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 4: they had that beautiful story to the woman without the 679 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 4: pantios and Elvis, my soul. 680 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 3: Is telling me to ask you, okay, the one at 681 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 3: the end of the book, and this is how the 682 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 3: book closes, and it's called in the Presence of Light. 683 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 3: Just like the book, there comes a moment, after the 684 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 3: years of waiting, of searching, and the quiet ache that 685 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 3: lingers behind every choice, a moment when you step forward, 686 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 3: not because the path is clear, but because you are 687 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 3: no longer afraid the pain of the past, the weight 688 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 3: of all you've carried no longer holds you. It was 689 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 3: never meant to to find you. It shaped you, yes, 690 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 3: but it is not who you are. You were always 691 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 3: meant to be more, something brighter, something real, something waiting 692 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 3: just beneath the surface. And now, as you stand in 693 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,760 Speaker 3: the presence of light, you see it for the first time, 694 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 3: the truth of who you are, unfiltered, unafraid, unapologetic. This 695 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,720 Speaker 3: is not a beginning, but a return to the self 696 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 3: you've always known, to the life you were always meant 697 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 3: to live. The struggle fades, the questions fall away, and 698 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 3: you stand fully present in the light of your own becoming. 699 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 3: And that's the poem. 700 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 4: I love that well, Scott. It was fantastic talking to 701 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 4: you today. Any closing words. 702 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 3: For our listener, just believe in the power, spirit, and 703 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 3: trust because they are there with all of us. It's 704 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 3: not just you and I that have this ability to 705 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 3: be connected. We are all connected, I think sometimes we 706 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 3: just don't see it. Believe with all your heart that 707 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 3: our loved ones are still with us, but also in 708 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 3: a place of eyes and imaginable beauty. So just remember 709 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 3: they are okay, and you too may get that message 710 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 3: if you just open your heart to it and believe 711 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 3: beautiful words. 712 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,720 Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Scott for being our guest. 713 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. 714 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 4: What a joy it is talk with Scott. Remember I've 715 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 4: told you in the past to book a medium reading 716 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 4: with someone who offers that ten minute guarantee. 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You're listening to Shades 724 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 4: of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 725 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 4: AM Paranormal podcast Network. 726 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:02,760 Speaker 6: Don't go anywhere. 727 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:08,720 Speaker 1: There's more Shades of the Afterlife coming right up. Hey, folks, 728 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: it's easier than ever to become a Coast to Coast 729 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,720 Speaker 1: AM insider and have access to past shows the Artbell 730 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: Vault with classic audio and interviews and so much more. 731 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: And you can listen to the show live or on 732 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 1: demand with your computer or cell phone, and the audio 733 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: streams are high quality and crystal clear. 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They continue their journey in 742 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 4: the afterlife, but they can easily keep one eye on us. 743 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 4: We always have monthly classes at Weedn'tdie dot com where 744 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 4: you can tap into your medium abilities, and then also 745 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 4: our free Sunday gathering of course, so you can see 746 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 4: mediums in action and maybe get a reading yourself. But 747 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 4: one of the things taught in our medium classes by 748 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,879 Speaker 4: our great teachers Carrie McLeod and Phil dikes Is. It's 749 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 4: not about the pictures that come into your head. It's 750 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,919 Speaker 4: more about feelings and emotions. So try this. When you're 751 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 4: talking to your loved one and you're quiet in your mind, 752 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 4: you're getting in that present moment and you want a 753 00:40:55,320 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 4: sign that they're close by, pay attention to your belly. 754 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,959 Speaker 4: Now I say belly meaning your gut, your feelings. Don't 755 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,280 Speaker 4: look for pictures in your head. How do you feel? 756 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 4: And it may come right down to, oh, I'm feeling 757 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 4: a little hungry. But when you're that present through your feelings, 758 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 4: suddenly memories might come out of the blue, Joyful emotions 759 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 4: might come in. You might start seeing pictures of maybe 760 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 4: a shared memory together. It all starts in your gut. 761 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 4: You've heard of gut instinct, Well, this is gut communication. 762 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 4: So come join one of our classes sometime and you 763 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 4: can discover that for yourself. So, as we've heard so 764 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 4: far on this episode, our loved ones join us in life. 765 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 4: They witness what we're doing. They're part of our lives. 766 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 4: They're also part of our deaths. No one dies alone. Next, 767 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,760 Speaker 4: I'm just going to read some short stories of people 768 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 4: who have witnessed their loved ones passing and those heavenly 769 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 4: visitors that help across the veil. The first person says, 770 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 4: when I worked for hospice, one of my patients sat 771 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 4: up in bed with a look of joy. He exclaimed 772 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 4: that they were all in the room. I asked who 773 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 4: all of my old cowboy buddies? He said he had 774 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,720 Speaker 4: worked all of his adult life on a ranch out west. 775 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 4: He sat there in his hospice bed, reaching out his hand, 776 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 4: gripping hands in the air. He couldn't get over how 777 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 4: many of his old buddies had come. He laid back 778 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 4: with a huge, contented sigh and smiled at me and asked, 779 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 4: isn't my horse beautiful? He said quite clearly that they 780 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 4: told him they brought his horse because it was time 781 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 4: for him to ride. He closed his eyes and was 782 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 4: dead within the hour. I have never seen such a 783 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 4: beautiful passing in my life. Here's another. I took care 784 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 4: of my mom for the last three years of her life. 785 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 4: She had stage four pancreatic and liver cancer. She was 786 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 4: in terrible pain in her last days. On the evening 787 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 4: she passed, she raised straight up out of bed, pointed 788 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 4: toward the wall, and in a questioning voice, she said Bobby. Again, 789 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 4: she said Bobby. Then in a more relaxed, excited voice, 790 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 4: she said Bobby. Bobby was my father, who passed away 791 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 4: in nineteen eighty one. Next, my great grandmother said before 792 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 4: she passed that her beloved husband was standing at the 793 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 4: end of the bed waiting to take her with him. 794 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 4: He had passed eighteen months earlier. She outstretched her arms 795 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 4: and sat up with the most beautiful, radiant smile, and 796 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 4: passed away just before she fell back on the pillow, 797 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 4: still smiling with a peaceful glow about her. Next, this 798 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 4: person says, my little cousin suffered severe brain damage in 799 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 4: a car wreck when he was in high school and 800 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:10,720 Speaker 4: had been completely unresponsive for fifteen years. X rays showed 801 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,760 Speaker 4: his brain had liquefied, yet the exact moment he died, 802 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,760 Speaker 4: he opened his eyes wide and just got the biggest 803 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,240 Speaker 4: smile I've ever seen and let out his last breath. 804 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 4: He was seeing and responding to something beyond our world. Next, 805 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,320 Speaker 4: my father was very weak and was not communicating well 806 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 4: in his final days. Just before he died, he pushed 807 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,320 Speaker 4: aside his oxygen and spoke clearly to an unseen person 808 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 4: in his hospital room. He said, but I'm not ready. 809 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 4: He was silent for a moment, as if listening to 810 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:51,280 Speaker 4: someone speak. Then he said, with gentleness and acceptance, okay. 811 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 4: And he was gone. Two weeks before, a close elderly 812 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,360 Speaker 4: friend of mine passed away. She was in the hospital 813 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 4: for several days for proceed I came for a hospital 814 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 4: visit and she was crying when I entered the room. 815 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 4: She had seen her late brother in law standing by 816 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,800 Speaker 4: her bed, smiling at her. She was taking no pain meds, 817 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,760 Speaker 4: and she was in a very sound, clear state of mind. 818 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 4: She insisted that he had been there. She saw him 819 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 4: as clearly as she saw me. She was so happy 820 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 4: and was convinced he had visited to comfort her in 821 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 4: her last days. She passed away about twelve days later, 822 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 4: absolutely resolute that she was going to be greeted by 823 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 4: family when she crossed over. Next, I worked for hospice. 824 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 4: My best was Harry, a stroke victim who saw his 825 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 4: late sister Bernice, standing at a gate at the foot 826 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 4: of his bed. Oddly, during that time, his wife, he 827 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 4: called her Mommy, came down with pneumonia and died suddenly herself. Afterwards, 828 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 4: he would say, today, Mommy is standing with Bernice at 829 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 4: the gate. He joined them shortly afterwards. When my own 830 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 4: mother passed, a snow had fallen the night before. At 831 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 4: the moment she passed, on a windless day, a snow 832 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 4: covered shrub outside of her window rattled and shook off 833 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 4: its snow cap. I believe it was her soul flying 834 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 4: through the window. Here's another A close friend's grandmother was 835 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 4: basically comatose for about two days prior to her death. 836 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 4: Suddenly she sat up, put her arms out and said, Mama, Mama. 837 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 4: She went back down and that was it. She passed 838 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 4: right then. Another says my mom was home in hospice 839 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 4: and one night she looked up at the ceiling and said, look, look, 840 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 4: they're all waiting for me. She named my late brother 841 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 4: and some other folks who had died next. I have 842 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 4: worked in healthcare for over forty years, including a few 843 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,800 Speaker 4: years as a nurse in hospice. I can honestly say 844 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 4: we see our loved ones before we die. I think 845 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,840 Speaker 4: the most beautiful example I witnessed was a dying man 846 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,800 Speaker 4: who broke out a huge smile and began waving and said, 847 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 4: I can't wait to see you. I asked who he 848 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 4: was waving and talking to, and he said my baby boy, 849 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 4: who died when he was just a few days old. 850 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 4: I was not surprised to hear he passed less than 851 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 4: twenty four hours later. Next my ninety six year old 852 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,240 Speaker 4: mom recently passed. She was the most beautiful person inside 853 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 4: and out. Before she passed, she pointed to the corner 854 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 4: of the room and said her deceased mother, brother, husband 855 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,879 Speaker 4: were all there and they want her to go with them. 856 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 4: I feel so blessed to have been able to have 857 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 4: been there to see this. She also said there were 858 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 4: two other people she didn't know. I missed my mom 859 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 4: so much, but I know she's with people she loved dearly. 860 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,360 Speaker 4: When my grandmother passed, I was sitting by her bed 861 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,920 Speaker 4: reading Out of the Blue. She yelled, Lovey, which was 862 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 4: her deceased sister. It's been a long time. I stopped 863 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 4: reading and listened to her side of the conversation. I 864 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 4: knew then she didn't have much time left. She passed 865 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,439 Speaker 4: early the next morning. Here's another My mom passed away 866 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,319 Speaker 4: two weeks ago. Two days before she told me that 867 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:28,400 Speaker 4: Andy was right there beside her that was my brother 868 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 4: that died from drowning in nineteen sixty. He was only 869 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 4: six years old when he died. I believe she did 870 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 4: indeed see him. Her mind was good up until the end, 871 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 4: so I don't believe she was imagining that. Next, my 872 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 4: dad kept seeing a tunnel before he passed away. He 873 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,360 Speaker 4: kept saying, I see a light, I see a tunnel. 874 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 4: He was looking at a blank wall, but smiling at 875 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 4: the time. He passed from cancer three days later. Next, 876 00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 4: my sister saw my grandparents the day before she died 877 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,840 Speaker 4: of breast cancer at only thirty six years old. She 878 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,359 Speaker 4: was talking to them and having a conversation while our mother, 879 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,760 Speaker 4: their daughter, and I were in the room with her. Next, 880 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 4: when my grandfather was really ill in the hospital, my 881 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,760 Speaker 4: dad and I went to visit him. He was talking 882 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,320 Speaker 4: to my dad when suddenly looked to the doorway and asked, 883 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 4: what are you doing here? My dad and I looked 884 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 4: at each other, confused as there was nobody at the door. 885 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,240 Speaker 4: He turned to my dad and said, tell your sister 886 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 4: to get some rest. She's sick and doesn't need to 887 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 4: travel so far to visit me. Here's the thing we 888 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 4: hadn't told my grandfather that she passed the night before, 889 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,280 Speaker 4: but he saw her. He too passed a few days later. 890 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 4: Here's another. My mother told me about my grandfather's unexpected death. 891 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 4: He had a massive heart attack and was barely conscious, 892 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 4: flat on his back on the living room floor. Suddenly 893 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 4: he sat straight up while looking at a blank wall 894 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 4: and sounding really surprised and happy. He said, well, hi. 895 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:11,400 Speaker 4: He instantly fell back and died. Clearly he recognized someone 896 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,440 Speaker 4: who made him happy. Here's another. I witnessed this phenomenon 897 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,839 Speaker 4: when my mother passed away. She had a quiet conversation 898 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,760 Speaker 4: with two deceased brothers with whom she was especially close. 899 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 4: She paused to listen to them as they spoke to her. 900 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,240 Speaker 4: Though their voices were inaudible to me, there were subtle 901 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 4: shifts in her facial expression as they conversed. They seemed 902 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 4: to be greeting and reassuring her. She said she was 903 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 4: ready to go with them. Shortly after she passed away, 904 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 4: I felt an overwhelming presence in the room that's difficult 905 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,400 Speaker 4: to describe, and I know they were there. And another. 906 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 4: My grandmother had been sick for years with cancer, and 907 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,839 Speaker 4: the night before she died, she was telling everyone how 908 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 4: her four brothers were in her room that morning, and 909 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 4: they had died years earlier. She was gone the next day. 910 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 4: Next here's a different kind of story. I had major 911 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:11,840 Speaker 4: heart surgery in early February twenty twenty four and coded 912 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 4: three times while I was under My paternal grandmother, who 913 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,799 Speaker 4: had died in the sixties, was in front of a 914 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,440 Speaker 4: gate with her arms folded in a stern look on 915 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 4: her face. She said to me, you have to go back. 916 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,680 Speaker 4: It's not your time. You have work to do. My 917 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,799 Speaker 4: family members think that the drugs made me crazy, but 918 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,400 Speaker 4: I know what I saw and what I heard. I 919 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 4: will never change my story. Friends, be sure to come 920 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 4: visit me at We Don'tdie dot com. At the bottom 921 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 4: of the page, enter your name an email address, and 922 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:50,280 Speaker 4: I've got some great free afterlife goodies for you. Remember, 923 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 4: though our loved ones may not be seen, they walk 924 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,359 Speaker 4: beside us, cheering us on in every moment, and when 925 00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,359 Speaker 4: the time comes, they'll be right there to embrace us 926 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,880 Speaker 4: with open arms and take us back home. I'm Sandra Champlain. 927 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 4: From the bottom of my heart. Thank you for listening 928 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:12,799 Speaker 4: to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast 929 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 4: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 930 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,759 Speaker 1: And if you like this episode of Shades of the Afterlife, 931 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 1: wait until you hear the next one. 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