WEBVTT - MLB Futures: June Update (Ep. 89) 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:15.920 It's time to place your bets. Let's talk to the pros. 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:19.079 Welcome in everybody to betting pros. It's me Joey P 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:21.840 Joe Pizzapia, and we got a great show for you 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:24.680 today because a third of the Major League Baseball season 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:27.400 is in the books, if you can believe it, already 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:30.040 we got two thirds left. But it's an important time 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:32.760 to take a pause and kind of take the temperature. 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:35.959 Where are we right now in the MLB season, but 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:39.559 more importantly, where are we with our MLB future? So 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:41.640 I wanted to bring in one of my absolute favorite 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:44.480 people to talk to about wagering, and it's certainly about 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:47.760 baseball as well. Yes, his name is also Joe. That 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:50.520 doesn't hurt either. You might know him from wager talk 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:53.040 from Sirius XM Radio channel two o four, and of 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:55.720 course all the stuff he does at Sports Greed because 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:58.920 he's on everything, everywhere, all the time. He's the one, 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:01.920 the only Joe Ranaire. Hey, Joe, welcome to the program, 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:02.840 my friend, how are you? 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:03.920 Joe? 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:06.480 I love it because it covers the whole room right now. 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:09.120 It's fantastic, Joe P. It is a pleasure to be 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:12.440 back with you. My friend, you look fantastic, and congratu 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:13.400 license on the show. 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:16.679 Man, very nice, look at us still kicking around after 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:19.000 all this time a year ago. We were laughing before 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:21.080 the show because a year ago at this time, Joe 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:23.800 and I were working together during the pandemic and part 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:26.680 of a network that was running by the I don't know, 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:28.679 by the seat of its pants. It was flying. I 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:31.040 guess you could say it was all new to everybody. 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:32.880 And here we are a year later, and all of 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:37.279 this this technological advancements, doing shows remotely and all these things. 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:39.959 It's like second nature now, and it's just so funny. 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:44.200 A difference of year makes man. And I know for you, 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:45.959 you know, with your New York Yankees, and I know 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:48.280 it's been a tough road here in the month of May. 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:51.000 But May's over. We're on to June. In the words 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:53.080 of Bill Belichick, we're on the Cincinnati So I won't 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:54.680 dive too much. I don't want to hand any sore 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:57.640 points with you. But let's start, if we may, with 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:00.360 the National League MVP race, because I think this is 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:02.480 a fascinating one. And once again, if you go to 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:04.880 bettingpros dot com, you can see the consensus of all 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:08.240 the different books where you can get which bet which wager, 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:09.600 and what we do here is we give you the 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:13.840 consensus number, basically what the average is across the board. 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.720 So right now Ronacuney is plus two hundred on consensus 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:19.799 betting pros. Then you got Fernando Teptis Junior, who may 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:21.520 or may not go on the IL with this little 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.520 bit of a tightness in his side. I tell you what, Joe, 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:27.200 I hate that word, obleique. I don't want anybody to 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:28.440 say it to me. Ever as soon as I hear it, 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:29.840 I know I'm not gonna see that player for six 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:31.760 to eight weeks. Let's hope for the best. But he's 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:33.680 plus three hundred. Then you have Jacob deGrom, who just 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:37.440 came back from injury at plus thirteen hundred. Noan Arnatto's 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:40.240 at thirteen hundred and Wans's at seventeen. WANs is going 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:43.799 to heat up. That number is going to probably decrease 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:46.400 for him in terms of odds. But right now, is 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:48.760 it a two horse race or can you really start 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:51.600 to make a case for de Grom because his number's 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:55.320 gone up exponentially after the injury, But he's doing something 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.240 that nobody else is doing when he takes that mound, Joe, 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:59.160 He's going out there. He's throwing one hundred miles an hour, 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:01.400 you know, thirty in a row, and it's nuts. And 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:04.320 I'm exaggerating, but slightly. So. What's your take on NLMVP 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:04.799 so far? 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:07.520 Listen, there's nothing not to like about a Cooder, right 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:09.760 is he twenty two to twenty three years old? The 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:13.960 numbers are astonishing, but unfortunately he's on a team that 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:17.320 is about as big an underperformer, certainly offensively as the 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:20.080 New York Yankees have been in many aspects of it, 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:23.760 he too had he was dealing with that injury back 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:25.680 and forth, and I'm with you when I hear that 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:29.320 word oblique, I'm I'm worried that I'm gonna have seventy 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.320 sixty five seventy percent of what that player could be 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:35.520 and should be, because it's certainly an injury that never 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:39.240 goes away, and the only thing that prevents it or 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:43.080 lets it go away is rest, and that's not good 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.480 for anybody. And then when you've got a guy who 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:48.520 swings and his shoulder pops out, that's a different story. 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:52.160 But to me, the focus is on de Groam. It's 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:57.000 all de Grom. You can't watch Garrett Cole. And we'll 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:58.080 talk about the big guns. 0:03:58.160 --> 0:03:59.840 Right. So you've got Garrett. 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:02.520 Cole up at the top of everyone's list, and you've 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:06.320 got you know, Bueler, You've got some of these frontline 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:11.160 top pitchers and watching them on any given Tuesday night, 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:13.680 Wednesday night, and you watch the Grom. 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:16.960 You tell me it's just not different, like you think. 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.960 It doesn't get any better than like Garret Cole. You 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:23.320 got three hundred million dollars, he's our number one. You 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:28.280 watch the Grom, watch the mannerisms of his teammates around him, 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:30.800 when he takes when he takes him out. What he 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.960 just did to Arizona and his last start was it 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:35.880 was ridiculous. I mean, he struck out five of the 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.640 first eight guys one hundred miles an hour, one hundred 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.880 and one, one hundred one's and it's ninety slider. 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:44.039 That's the thing that's crazy to me is that it's 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:45.919 so easy looking. You know, you see these guys with 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:48.919 the max effort velocity, but not the Gram. It just 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:51.240 looks so effortless. And and you know, this is why 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:52.920 I love doing these shows. Once a month. We try 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:54.960 to like update everybody on this because it's such a 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:57.560 fluid thing. To Grom at one point was I've saw 0:04:57.600 --> 0:04:59.760 in some books somewhere around four to one, five to 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:02.520 one this award. He has the injury that it sets 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:04.840 him back a little bit. Now you're some spots again, 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:07.400 thirteen to one, you're getting this, And look, I know 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:09.960 Akooni has been consistent and maybe that will get rewarded. 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:14.320 Tatis overcoming the shoulder, overcoming COVID if he hopefully this 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:16.800 injury doesn't keep him off, that's on the shelf very long. 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:19.479 But I wonder if we're in root for a thirty 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.440 thirty thirty season from Tetus where thirty home runs, thirty 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:25.159 steals in thirty days on the il, nobody's ever done that. 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:26.760 If he does that, I don't know how you don't 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:28.880 give him the award. But I'm kind of with you 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:32.600 that de Gram is fascinating and this is obviously the time, 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.279 right if you think de Gram is back and being 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.039 da Gram again, thirteen to one seems like the spot 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:38.800 to get in, right. 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:42.200 Absolutely, I'm kind of upset that aid and granted ahead 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:45.520 of time, because listen, this is the problem with guys. 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:48.400 Like the grom the truly elite of delete right. 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:52.440 We tend to take them for granted, not only as fans, 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:55.839 but certainly as better as in many aspects too when 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:59.280 we see them, and it's hard to take a step. 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.560 Back and just he's different. 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:05.680 Everything about him is different when he's pitching in the game, 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:09.440 when he's on the mound, his teammates are different. The 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:12.160 team he's playing has that you see it, Joe, They 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:15.440 have a certain look in there. I gotta go off, 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:17.520 I gotta go and try and to hit this. 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:21.359 You don't get that. It's once in a generation kind. 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:23.880 And because he's on the Mets, and because they never 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:25.760 score any runs for him, or at least that's the 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:27.880 m O become. 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:29.760 A Mets fan, I can tell you, yeah, you take 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:30.520 it for granted. 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:33.120 It's absolute siated well. 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:35.320 And speaking of getting in at the right time, now, 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:37.799 I got in on my shares of show atani at 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:40.480 six and a half. Oh, that's where I got them at. 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:41.039 Now. 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.880 I had an inkling when it was up at twenty 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:45.920 before the season, and I gotta tell you, in the 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:47.960 American League, even with that, I said, look, I gotta 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.839 see it a little bit more but then I jumped 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:52.719 in and it was before Trout got hurt. And then 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:55.599 when Trout got hurt, I knew that number that was gone. 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:58.160 You never gonna see that six again in the American 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:00.440 League Right now, the consensus number at show you Otanio 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:03.159 again before the season started was around the twenties. Now 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:06.320 it's plus one to twenty. Vlad Guerrero Junior, who just 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.200 look like he's playing out of his mind right now 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:10.400 in incredible hot streak. He's at plus two seventy five. 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:12.320 Trout's falling back to the pack with the rest of 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.840 the guys, he's at plus seventeen. To me, this is 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:17.160 that two man race. And I pose this question this 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:19.320 morning on the Baseball Show on Fantasy Pros, and I'm 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:22.560 curious to hear your answer. Even if Ladd hits thirty 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:25.560 something home runs this year and Otani hits thirty something, 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.400 Otani always has that trump card, which is, oh yeah, 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:31.240 and I'm pitching too. By the way, how can anyone 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:34.640 compete with that? If Otani can take the ball about 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:36.880 every fifth day and throw one hundred and twenty something 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:39.120 innings this year, can anybody compete with that? 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:45.040 If I have to go look at film that is 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:49.280 basically silent and black and white. To see the last 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:52.960 player in Major League Baseball that was both that was 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:57.120 hitting ball, pitchings, been playing the field, then you have 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.960 something very special here. The problem is we know the 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:03.640 injury history, right, you know, how healthy can he be? 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.840 One of the other big questions was were they gonna 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:08.960 be were they gonna baby him, you know, how much? 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:10.840 Were they gonna use him, Were they gonna be extra 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:13.720 careful with him? What was Madden gonna do with him? 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.760 So far, they've done a massivel job the guy. I mean, 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:20.880 his power numbers are ridiculous home runs, but his pitching too. 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:22.280 When he's on the mound. 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:24.520 When you got a guy in a mount pitching and 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:26.440 then they bring in a relief pitcher and they send 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:28.440 you to right field, it's like shades of a twelve 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:31.240 year old little league again, like all right, great job, Joey, 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:34.640 great go play left field? Like what's like, what are 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.920 we doing right now? That's what you have. The problem 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:40.520 I have with Joe is that, and I think there 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:43.040 will continue to be value with him because he plays 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:47.520 for the Angels and he's never going to be front 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:49.960 page news there being in the same town as the Dodgers. 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:52.800 It's just not gonna happen. So I don't think half. 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:57.280 This country even realizes how special what he's doing is 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:01.559 because the Angels and the big markets pay no attention. 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:03.680 So oh, if this was happening in New York or 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:07.240 Boston or Chicago, forget it, forget it. Absolutely, it'd be 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.800 a whole. There would be statues already built to him, 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:11.760 two statues, one for the pitcher, one for the hitter. 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.160 They would be all kinds of different things. But that 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:17.480 it is an unreal thing. It's and it's just baseball 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:19.720 is hard, you know, I know we played the game. 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:21.960 It is hard. He makes it look so easy, and 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:24.559 it is insane right now now in terms of the 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:27.440 National League, Cy Young. Look, we all think Jacob Degroma, 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:29.640 the fact that it's only minus one sixty seven, I 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:32.319 think is actually kind of ludicrous. The other guys out there, 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:35.199 Corbyn Burns and Woodriff, Jack Flaherty was at eighteen to one, 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:38.280 Woods and Bird Juesday, Burns and Woodroff were in that 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:41.440 seven to seven and a half range. I really have 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:43.320 a hard time looking for anybody, so I don't really 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:45.400 want to waste anybody's time with long shots and stuff 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:48.560 like that. Burns has been terrific, Bower has been good too, 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:50.680 but de Gram is just in a different universe the 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:53.600 American League. It feels like Garrick Cole right now he 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:56.080 is at minus one forty eight, and then you got 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:58.400 Shane Bieber at plus four hundred, you got Tyler Glass 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:00.160 now it's six fifty, and then you've got Lance Lynn 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.880 at plus fourteen and Carols Rodonno's at a brilliant season 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:06.920 at plus eighteen. Now, awards are always media driven their narratives, right, 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:09.920 That's why the Jotani narrative, especially with Trout going down, 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.800 is such a good narrative. Is there another narrative to 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.520 be built besides Garret Cole right now in the American League? 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:18.040 Because Glass now in the Rays, it kind of feels 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:20.280 like that could be one and six fifty is a 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:22.800 fascinating spot to be in. That's the one that I've 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:24.559 kind of got circled right now because he's kind of 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:26.720 getting it done and I don't think people are really noticing, 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:28.880 but it feels like it's starting to build momentum. What 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.000 are your thoughts on him? Or is it just again 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:32.040 Garrett Coles to lose. 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:35.199 Basically, it's always going to be Garrett Coles to lose 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.960 because he's a Yankee, so let's be realistic with that. 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.080 And again just a cut above. 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:42.680 But the interesting part about glasshow coming into this season, 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:46.640 was how is he going to react being the number one? 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.640 You know, he was behind Snell, so he didn't have 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.080 as much pressure there. Plus, you play at the Trop 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:56.000 It doesn't get any better for pitchers there than the Trop. 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:59.120 I mean, I wouldn't want to be a hitter and 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.360 have to play my games at the Trop in Tampa. 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:02.760 It's a terrible ballpark. 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.480 Uh, and certainly not one that's induced him to a 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:06.240 whole lot of offense. 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:08.000 So I think he's got that going for him. 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.280 But who knew when you're going up against the two 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.000 and threes, now you've got to go up against the 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:15.280 number ones? What we're we going to get from him? 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.000 And the answer is pretty simple. I mean he's been 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:24.920 absolutely phenomenal. Uh Renduonta Carl Carlos Ardon has redone has 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:28.320 been unbelievable to me, especially the backstory with this guy, 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:32.120 not one what two shoulder you know, surgeries, he had 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:34.439 elbow he I mean, this guy was. 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:36.920 Trying and trying and trying and. 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:39.839 Trying to get there, and uh, just what a year 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.320 and a half ago or so, they were like, we 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:44.520 don't know if he's going to be able to come back, 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:46.280 we don't know what his career is going to be like. 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:50.240 And what we're seeing from him this year is unbelievable. 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:54.400 Dare I say a million times better than Giolito what 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:55.880 we're seeing, uh from him? 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.400 Geos picked it up a little bit. Yeah, Geos came 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:00.960 up a little bit recently. A bad stretch there. You 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.280 had that bad day game in Boston and then that's 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:05.400 spiral to another start, and then he had an injury 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:07.079 thing and then there was like a rain game. He 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.400 had like the worst run there. But that's all coming 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:11.520 back to earth and it's funny. As great as the 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:14.840 Rodn's story has been, he's probably still not gonna win 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:17.080 Comeback Player of the Year because of Trey Mancini. Like 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:19.400 that's the thing you want to look for odds on that. 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:21.160 I don't know why I even looked at them today, 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:23.520 but I can't imagine they're not in the negative. In 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:27.679 terms of trade manca He's been brilliant. 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:30.920 I don't go on, but Gostan too. Anybody see that 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.160 coming from the Giants. 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:35.679 The whole Giants rotation him, Alex Wood, you got a 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:38.640 little web striking out ten guys. It's been madness there 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:41.960 and good on Gosmin and you know what, bad job 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.079 on the Orioles, who continue to show you that they 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.679 have no idea how to develop pitching. For the last decade, 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:50.960 it's been crazy. Cabrian Hayes still leads everybody in terms 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.679 of Rookie of the Year in consensus wagering, which I 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:57.360 think is hilarious. Ian Anderson's at plus six hundred, Dylan 0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:59.800 Carlson's at plus seven hundred. I kind of like the 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:02.760 I mean Ian Anderson, that dude's just basically going out 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:05.880 there and just been great every single start for the 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:07.760 most part. He's not going to give you seventy eight 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:09.320 innings because of where he's at, and I don't know 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:12.240 what he's gonna look like come August and September, but 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:14.160 right now I think the six to one is actually 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:18.520 one of the more intriguing wagers on this award. Futures 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:21.320 kind of sleep and Hayes hasn't played all year, so 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:23.160 I don't know, I mean, I know Carlson's a good player, 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.040 he's in a position player, but it kind of feels 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:27.000 like Ian Anderson's to lose. What's your thoughts on this? 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:30.800 Absolutely, I think the kid has got a tremendous and 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:34.440 I mean an absolute tremendous future ahead of him. I 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:36.839 think he's in the right organization at the right time 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:39.439 he's gonna get and I think this is going to 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:41.400 be important too as we get a little bit closer 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:43.560 after the All Star break, He's gonna get a lot 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:48.120 of national exposure to come that time because he's going 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:50.880 to be pitching some meaningful games here when you get 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:54.800 into August and September. They are going to need him. 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:59.240 But there's nothing not to like. His metrics are fantastic, 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:01.040 the numbers are really good. Had a little bit of 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:03.360 a rough outing last time out, but you know, he 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:05.800 is a kid that if they can get it together, 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:10.160 certainly offensively all over there, he is going to He's 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:15.040 going to be up there because really, who else. 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:16.480 And you don't really see a lot of National League 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:19.680 rookies coming through that pipeline this year, whereas in the 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.480 American League when you look over there right now, you're 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:24.680 still waiting on Wander Franco, who's a ten to one. 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:27.680 Jared Tllna came up, He's ten to one. Randy rose 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.080 Arena is the clear favorite plus three hundred three fifty. 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.760 But we just had Alec Minoa come up last week 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.480 have his debut and Yankee Stadium. We'll see how he 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:38.840 makes his second start in the third start and what not, 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:40.560 how that goes. That boy's a hass. 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:45.120 That you know what, I think I Jet signed him. 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:46.120 I'm not sure. 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.280 I think he might be the right guard for the 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:51.040 Jets in the offseason. It's very possible. I don't know. 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:53.520 But what I do know is I think the American 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:56.280 League is a little bit more fluid right now. The 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:59.000 National League. Guy like Ian Anderson rose Arein has been 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.480 there from day one. I can understand him being the favorite. 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:03.840 But even so, that plus three fifty, that's a pretty 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:05.920 good number on a Rose Arena if you don't want 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:08.560 to wait for Wonder Franco and Fidal Boujean and those 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.560 guys who come up for the raise. But do you 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:12.640 think it's worth waiting on or do you speculate now 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:14.840 in those rays hoping to hit on a Wonder Franco 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:17.360 in the second half just coming up and being gazzling. 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:19.400 It's where we're gonna find out. 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:22.040 You bring up a good point there, though I would 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:25.120 tend to jump on at because of the nature of 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:29.120 that award too, and I don't. To me, the fact 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.640 that we're even talking about two or three guys means 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:35.120 there's really no clear cut, you know, heads and tails 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:36.840 above anything else here. 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.480 But I do think we're just too much into the season. 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:43.040 I do think Franco and others have a chance to 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:47.440 make a really big push for this award. Incluing Anderson there, 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:49.960 I think there's gonna be an opportunity to get to 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:52.720 get a little votes as the season moves on. But 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.360 I'm looking forward tell you the truth, it's the next generation. 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:57.480 I'm looking forward to seeing even at the end of 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:59.920 your forget the award, I can't wait to see who's 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:02.320 left standing among these among. 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:03.600 These players at the end, I think it's gonna be 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:04.160 a lot of fun. 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:05.720 Well, it's gonna be a lot of fun that American 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:07.960 League eest too, because we've got to raise right now, 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:12.080 Boom plus one fifty, the Yankees plus one sixty. This 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:14.480 is to win the division and the Red Sox sitting 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:16.480 all the way back at plus three eighty five, which 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:18.920 is and I understand why they're not getting respect, And 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.640 I think it's because you look at that rotation, you worry, 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:24.520 is it a paper tiger. The bullpen's been brilliant over 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:26.840 the last couple of weeks. The offense is there. The 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:29.040 bottom of the lineup is still a little troubling, but 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:31.680 the main guys have carried them. When you have JD 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:34.960 and Raphael Devers and Xander Bogarts being great, you can 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:38.080 get by. Where do you want to put your money here? 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:40.560 If at all? Because this is a tight race, and 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:42.720 it seems like the Rays the last couple of years 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:44.920 have kind of had the Yankees' number and they're able 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:47.440 to You know, I said last year, and I know 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:49.200 we did a lot of shows together, but I said 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:51.760 going into last year that season was built for the 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:54.360 Rays because you knew nobody was gonna be able to 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:56.320 make big trays and bring in big salaries, and the 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:58.040 Yankees weren't going to do that. In the Red Sox 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.760 were building, so the Rays at a un position to 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.760 really be a playoff team go to the World Series potentially, 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.040 And I thought that this was just a perfect setup. 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:07.920 Now this year again, they're not gonna be able to 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:10.639 do that. But they can bring up these kids, and 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:12.679 they can bring up these guys. The Yankees have had 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:16.080 some injuries here. Stan's been hurt. We know Luke Voight 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:18.680 was back and then back on the il. Corey Klueber's 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:20.680 gonna miss some time tie on. We don't know how 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.560 long he's gonna last. There's some issues here with the Yankees. 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:25.359 Is it a good wager right now to get in 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:27.480 on the rais or do you think the Red Sox 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:30.280 are actually more fun considering you're getting the better odds there? 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:34.080 So I believe they're either third or fourth best in 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:37.040 the America League and run differential they were at plus 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:40.200 forty four, forty five somewhere along those lines heading into 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:43.800 the week, and that they can flat out they can 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:44.400 flat out ball. 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:47.120 Now. The starting pitching is what everyone is looking. 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:50.080 And saying, Oh, I'll slow down, right, You got and 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:52.720 aren't got crushed a little bit here Rodriguez. 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:55.480 But the bullpen. Look what that bullpen has done. 0:17:55.600 --> 0:18:00.280 Matt Barnes with twelve saves, Garrett went, I mean, I 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:03.159 don't know anybody saw the bullpen as possibly one of 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:06.119 the strengths of the Red Sox, the starting pitching. I 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:09.680 think it's hit or miss, obviously, but with those bats, 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:12.800