1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: It's time to place your bets. Let's talk to the pros. 2 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to betting pros. It's me Joey P 3 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: Joe Pizzapia, and we got a great show for you 4 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: today because a third of the Major League Baseball season 5 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: is in the books, if you can believe it, already 6 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: we got two thirds left. But it's an important time 7 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: to take a pause and kind of take the temperature. 8 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,959 Speaker 1: Where are we right now in the MLB season, but 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: more importantly, where are we with our MLB future? So 10 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to bring in one of my absolute favorite 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: people to talk to about wagering, and it's certainly about 12 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: baseball as well. Yes, his name is also Joe. That 13 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: doesn't hurt either. You might know him from wager talk 14 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: from Sirius XM Radio channel two o four, and of 15 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: course all the stuff he does at Sports Greed because 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: he's on everything, everywhere, all the time. He's the one, 17 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: the only Joe Ranaire. Hey, Joe, welcome to the program, 18 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: my friend, how are you? 19 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: Joe? 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 3: I love it because it covers the whole room right now. 21 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 3: It's fantastic, Joe P. It is a pleasure to be 22 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 3: back with you. My friend, you look fantastic, and congratu 23 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 3: license on the show. 24 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: Man, very nice, look at us still kicking around after 25 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: all this time a year ago. We were laughing before 26 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: the show because a year ago at this time, Joe 27 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: and I were working together during the pandemic and part 28 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: of a network that was running by the I don't know, 29 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: by the seat of its pants. It was flying. I 30 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: guess you could say it was all new to everybody. 31 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: And here we are a year later, and all of 32 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:37,279 Speaker 1: this this technological advancements, doing shows remotely and all these things. 33 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: It's like second nature now, and it's just so funny. 34 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: A difference of year makes man. And I know for you, 35 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: you know, with your New York Yankees, and I know 36 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: it's been a tough road here in the month of May. 37 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: But May's over. We're on to June. In the words 38 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: of Bill Belichick, we're on the Cincinnati So I won't 39 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: dive too much. I don't want to hand any sore 40 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: points with you. But let's start, if we may, with 41 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: the National League MVP race, because I think this is 42 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: a fascinating one. And once again, if you go to 43 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: bettingpros dot com, you can see the consensus of all 44 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: the different books where you can get which bet which wager, 45 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: and what we do here is we give you the 46 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: consensus number, basically what the average is across the board. 47 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: So right now Ronacuney is plus two hundred on consensus 48 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: betting pros. Then you got Fernando Teptis Junior, who may 49 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: or may not go on the IL with this little 50 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: bit of a tightness in his side. I tell you what, Joe, 51 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: I hate that word, obleique. I don't want anybody to 52 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: say it to me. Ever as soon as I hear it, 53 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: I know I'm not gonna see that player for six 54 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: to eight weeks. Let's hope for the best. But he's 55 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: plus three hundred. Then you have Jacob deGrom, who just 56 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: came back from injury at plus thirteen hundred. Noan Arnatto's 57 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: at thirteen hundred and Wans's at seventeen. WANs is going 58 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: to heat up. That number is going to probably decrease 59 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: for him in terms of odds. But right now, is 60 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: it a two horse race or can you really start 61 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: to make a case for de Grom because his number's 62 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: gone up exponentially after the injury, But he's doing something 63 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: that nobody else is doing when he takes that mound, Joe, 64 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: He's going out there. He's throwing one hundred miles an hour, 65 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: you know, thirty in a row, and it's nuts. And 66 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: I'm exaggerating, but slightly. So. What's your take on NLMVP 67 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: so far? 68 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 3: Listen, there's nothing not to like about a Cooder, right 69 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: is he twenty two to twenty three years old? The 70 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 3: numbers are astonishing, but unfortunately he's on a team that 71 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: is about as big an underperformer, certainly offensively as the 72 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 3: New York Yankees have been in many aspects of it, 73 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: he too had he was dealing with that injury back 74 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 3: and forth, and I'm with you when I hear that 75 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: word oblique, I'm I'm worried that I'm gonna have seventy 76 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: sixty five seventy percent of what that player could be 77 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 3: and should be, because it's certainly an injury that never 78 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 3: goes away, and the only thing that prevents it or 79 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 3: lets it go away is rest, and that's not good 80 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 3: for anybody. And then when you've got a guy who 81 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: swings and his shoulder pops out, that's a different story. 82 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: But to me, the focus is on de Groam. It's 83 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: all de Grom. You can't watch Garrett Cole. And we'll 84 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 3: talk about the big guns. 85 00:03:58,160 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: Right. So you've got Garrett. 86 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 3: Cole up at the top of everyone's list, and you've 87 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 3: got you know, Bueler, You've got some of these frontline 88 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 3: top pitchers and watching them on any given Tuesday night, 89 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 3: Wednesday night, and you watch the Grom. 90 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: You tell me it's just not different, like you think. 91 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 3: It doesn't get any better than like Garret Cole. You 92 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: got three hundred million dollars, he's our number one. You 93 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 3: watch the Grom, watch the mannerisms of his teammates around him, 94 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 3: when he takes when he takes him out. What he 95 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: just did to Arizona and his last start was it 96 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: was ridiculous. I mean, he struck out five of the 97 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: first eight guys one hundred miles an hour, one hundred 98 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 3: and one, one hundred one's and it's ninety slider. 99 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: That's the thing that's crazy to me is that it's 100 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: so easy looking. You know, you see these guys with 101 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: the max effort velocity, but not the Gram. It just 102 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: looks so effortless. And and you know, this is why 103 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: I love doing these shows. Once a month. We try 104 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: to like update everybody on this because it's such a 105 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: fluid thing. To Grom at one point was I've saw 106 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: in some books somewhere around four to one, five to 107 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: one this award. He has the injury that it sets 108 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: him back a little bit. Now you're some spots again, 109 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: thirteen to one, you're getting this, And look, I know 110 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: Akooni has been consistent and maybe that will get rewarded. 111 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: Tatis overcoming the shoulder, overcoming COVID if he hopefully this 112 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: injury doesn't keep him off, that's on the shelf very long. 113 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: But I wonder if we're in root for a thirty 114 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: thirty thirty season from Tetus where thirty home runs, thirty 115 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: steals in thirty days on the il, nobody's ever done that. 116 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: If he does that, I don't know how you don't 117 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: give him the award. But I'm kind of with you 118 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: that de Gram is fascinating and this is obviously the time, 119 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: right if you think de Gram is back and being 120 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: da Gram again, thirteen to one seems like the spot 121 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: to get in, right. 122 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm kind of upset that aid and granted ahead 123 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: of time, because listen, this is the problem with guys. 124 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: Like the grom the truly elite of delete right. 125 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 3: We tend to take them for granted, not only as fans, 126 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 3: but certainly as better as in many aspects too when 127 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 3: we see them, and it's hard to take a step. 128 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: Back and just he's different. 129 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 3: Everything about him is different when he's pitching in the game, 130 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 3: when he's on the mound, his teammates are different. The 131 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 3: team he's playing has that you see it, Joe, They 132 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: have a certain look in there. I gotta go off, 133 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 3: I gotta go and try and to hit this. 134 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 2: You don't get that. It's once in a generation kind. 135 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 3: And because he's on the Mets, and because they never 136 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: score any runs for him, or at least that's the 137 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: m O become. 138 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: A Mets fan, I can tell you, yeah, you take 139 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: it for granted. 140 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: It's absolute siated well. 141 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: And speaking of getting in at the right time, now, 142 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,799 Speaker 1: I got in on my shares of show atani at 143 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: six and a half. Oh, that's where I got them at. 144 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 2: Now. 145 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: I had an inkling when it was up at twenty 146 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: before the season, and I gotta tell you, in the 147 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: American League, even with that, I said, look, I gotta 148 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: see it a little bit more but then I jumped 149 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: in and it was before Trout got hurt. And then 150 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: when Trout got hurt, I knew that number that was gone. 151 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: You never gonna see that six again in the American 152 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: League Right now, the consensus number at show you Otanio 153 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: again before the season started was around the twenties. Now 154 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: it's plus one to twenty. Vlad Guerrero Junior, who just 155 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: look like he's playing out of his mind right now 156 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: in incredible hot streak. He's at plus two seventy five. 157 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: Trout's falling back to the pack with the rest of 158 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: the guys, he's at plus seventeen. To me, this is 159 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: that two man race. And I pose this question this 160 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: morning on the Baseball Show on Fantasy Pros, and I'm 161 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: curious to hear your answer. Even if Ladd hits thirty 162 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: something home runs this year and Otani hits thirty something, 163 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: Otani always has that trump card, which is, oh yeah, 164 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: and I'm pitching too. By the way, how can anyone 165 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: compete with that? If Otani can take the ball about 166 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: every fifth day and throw one hundred and twenty something 167 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: innings this year, can anybody compete with that? 168 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: If I have to go look at film that is 169 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 3: basically silent and black and white. To see the last 170 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 3: player in Major League Baseball that was both that was 171 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 3: hitting ball, pitchings, been playing the field, then you have 172 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: something very special here. The problem is we know the 173 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: injury history, right, you know, how healthy can he be? 174 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 3: One of the other big questions was were they gonna 175 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 3: be were they gonna baby him, you know, how much? 176 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 3: Were they gonna use him, Were they gonna be extra 177 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 3: careful with him? What was Madden gonna do with him? 178 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 3: So far, they've done a massivel job the guy. I mean, 179 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 3: his power numbers are ridiculous home runs, but his pitching too. 180 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: When he's on the mound. 181 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 3: When you got a guy in a mount pitching and 182 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 3: then they bring in a relief pitcher and they send 183 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 3: you to right field, it's like shades of a twelve 184 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 3: year old little league again, like all right, great job, Joey, 185 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: great go play left field? Like what's like, what are 186 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 3: we doing right now? That's what you have. The problem 187 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 3: I have with Joe is that, and I think there 188 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 3: will continue to be value with him because he plays 189 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 3: for the Angels and he's never going to be front 190 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 3: page news there being in the same town as the Dodgers. 191 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: It's just not gonna happen. So I don't think half. 192 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: This country even realizes how special what he's doing is 193 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 3: because the Angels and the big markets pay no attention. 194 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: So oh, if this was happening in New York or 195 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: Boston or Chicago, forget it, forget it. Absolutely, it'd be 196 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: a whole. There would be statues already built to him, 197 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: two statues, one for the pitcher, one for the hitter. 198 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: They would be all kinds of different things. But that 199 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: it is an unreal thing. It's and it's just baseball 200 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: is hard, you know, I know we played the game. 201 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: It is hard. He makes it look so easy, and 202 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: it is insane right now now in terms of the 203 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: National League, Cy Young. Look, we all think Jacob Degroma, 204 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: the fact that it's only minus one sixty seven, I 205 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: think is actually kind of ludicrous. The other guys out there, 206 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: Corbyn Burns and Woodriff, Jack Flaherty was at eighteen to one, 207 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: Woods and Bird Juesday, Burns and Woodroff were in that 208 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: seven to seven and a half range. I really have 209 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: a hard time looking for anybody, so I don't really 210 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: want to waste anybody's time with long shots and stuff 211 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: like that. Burns has been terrific, Bower has been good too, 212 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: but de Gram is just in a different universe the 213 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: American League. It feels like Garrick Cole right now he 214 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: is at minus one forty eight, and then you got 215 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: Shane Bieber at plus four hundred, you got Tyler Glass 216 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: now it's six fifty, and then you've got Lance Lynn 217 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: at plus fourteen and Carols Rodonno's at a brilliant season 218 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: at plus eighteen. Now, awards are always media driven their narratives, right, 219 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: That's why the Jotani narrative, especially with Trout going down, 220 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: is such a good narrative. Is there another narrative to 221 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: be built besides Garret Cole right now in the American League? 222 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: Because Glass now in the Rays, it kind of feels 223 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: like that could be one and six fifty is a 224 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: fascinating spot to be in. That's the one that I've 225 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 1: kind of got circled right now because he's kind of 226 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: getting it done and I don't think people are really noticing, 227 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: but it feels like it's starting to build momentum. What 228 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: are your thoughts on him? Or is it just again 229 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: Garrett Coles to lose. 230 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 3: Basically, it's always going to be Garrett Coles to lose 231 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 3: because he's a Yankee, so let's be realistic with that. 232 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 2: And again just a cut above. 233 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 3: But the interesting part about glasshow coming into this season, 234 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 3: was how is he going to react being the number one? 235 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 3: You know, he was behind Snell, so he didn't have 236 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 3: as much pressure there. Plus, you play at the Trop 237 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: It doesn't get any better for pitchers there than the Trop. 238 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't want to be a hitter and 239 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 3: have to play my games at the Trop in Tampa. 240 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: It's a terrible ballpark. 241 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 3: Uh, and certainly not one that's induced him to a 242 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 3: whole lot of offense. 243 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: So I think he's got that going for him. 244 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: But who knew when you're going up against the two 245 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 3: and threes, now you've got to go up against the 246 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 3: number ones? What we're we going to get from him? 247 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 3: And the answer is pretty simple. I mean he's been 248 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 3: absolutely phenomenal. Uh Renduonta Carl Carlos Ardon has redone has 249 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 3: been unbelievable to me, especially the backstory with this guy, 250 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: not one what two shoulder you know, surgeries, he had 251 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 3: elbow he I mean, this guy was. 252 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: Trying and trying and trying and. 253 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 3: Trying to get there, and uh, just what a year 254 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 3: and a half ago or so, they were like, we 255 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 3: don't know if he's going to be able to come back, 256 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: we don't know what his career is going to be like. 257 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 3: And what we're seeing from him this year is unbelievable. 258 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 3: Dare I say a million times better than Giolito what 259 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 3: we're seeing, uh from him? 260 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: Geos picked it up a little bit. Yeah, Geos came 261 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: up a little bit recently. A bad stretch there. You 262 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: had that bad day game in Boston and then that's 263 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: spiral to another start, and then he had an injury 264 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: thing and then there was like a rain game. He 265 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: had like the worst run there. But that's all coming 266 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: back to earth and it's funny. As great as the 267 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: Rodn's story has been, he's probably still not gonna win 268 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: Comeback Player of the Year because of Trey Mancini. Like 269 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: that's the thing you want to look for odds on that. 270 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: I don't know why I even looked at them today, 271 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: but I can't imagine they're not in the negative. In 272 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: terms of trade manca He's been brilliant. 273 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 3: I don't go on, but Gostan too. Anybody see that 274 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 3: coming from the Giants. 275 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: The whole Giants rotation him, Alex Wood, you got a 276 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: little web striking out ten guys. It's been madness there 277 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: and good on Gosmin and you know what, bad job 278 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: on the Orioles, who continue to show you that they 279 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: have no idea how to develop pitching. For the last decade, 280 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: it's been crazy. Cabrian Hayes still leads everybody in terms 281 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: of Rookie of the Year in consensus wagering, which I 282 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: think is hilarious. Ian Anderson's at plus six hundred, Dylan 283 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: Carlson's at plus seven hundred. I kind of like the 284 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: I mean Ian Anderson, that dude's just basically going out 285 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: there and just been great every single start for the 286 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: most part. He's not going to give you seventy eight 287 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: innings because of where he's at, and I don't know 288 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: what he's gonna look like come August and September, but 289 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: right now I think the six to one is actually 290 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: one of the more intriguing wagers on this award. Futures 291 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: kind of sleep and Hayes hasn't played all year, so 292 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, I know Carlson's a good player, 293 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: he's in a position player, but it kind of feels 294 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: like Ian Anderson's to lose. What's your thoughts on this? 295 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think the kid has got a tremendous and 296 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 3: I mean an absolute tremendous future ahead of him. I 297 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 3: think he's in the right organization at the right time 298 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 3: he's gonna get and I think this is going to 299 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 3: be important too as we get a little bit closer 300 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 3: after the All Star break, He's gonna get a lot 301 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 3: of national exposure to come that time because he's going 302 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 3: to be pitching some meaningful games here when you get 303 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 3: into August and September. They are going to need him. 304 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: But there's nothing not to like. His metrics are fantastic, 305 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 3: the numbers are really good. Had a little bit of 306 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: a rough outing last time out, but you know, he 307 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: is a kid that if they can get it together, 308 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 3: certainly offensively all over there, he is going to He's 309 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 3: going to be up there because really, who else. 310 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: And you don't really see a lot of National League 311 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: rookies coming through that pipeline this year, whereas in the 312 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: American League when you look over there right now, you're 313 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: still waiting on Wander Franco, who's a ten to one. 314 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: Jared Tllna came up, He's ten to one. Randy rose 315 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: Arena is the clear favorite plus three hundred three fifty. 316 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: But we just had Alec Minoa come up last week 317 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: have his debut and Yankee Stadium. We'll see how he 318 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: makes his second start in the third start and what not, 319 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: how that goes. That boy's a hass. 320 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 2: That you know what, I think I Jet signed him. 321 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. 322 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: I think he might be the right guard for the 323 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: Jets in the offseason. It's very possible. I don't know. 324 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: But what I do know is I think the American 325 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: League is a little bit more fluid right now. The 326 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: National League. Guy like Ian Anderson rose Arein has been 327 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: there from day one. I can understand him being the favorite. 328 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: But even so, that plus three fifty, that's a pretty 329 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: good number on a Rose Arena if you don't want 330 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: to wait for Wonder Franco and Fidal Boujean and those 331 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: guys who come up for the raise. But do you 332 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: think it's worth waiting on or do you speculate now 333 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: in those rays hoping to hit on a Wonder Franco 334 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: in the second half just coming up and being gazzling. 335 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 2: It's where we're gonna find out. 336 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 3: You bring up a good point there, though I would 337 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 3: tend to jump on at because of the nature of 338 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: that award too, and I don't. To me, the fact 339 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 3: that we're even talking about two or three guys means 340 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 3: there's really no clear cut, you know, heads and tails 341 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 3: above anything else here. 342 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: But I do think we're just too much into the season. 343 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 3: I do think Franco and others have a chance to 344 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 3: make a really big push for this award. Incluing Anderson there, 345 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be an opportunity to get to 346 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 3: get a little votes as the season moves on. But 347 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward tell you the truth, it's the next generation. 348 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to seeing even at the end of 349 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 3: your forget the award, I can't wait to see who's 350 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 3: left standing among these among. 351 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: These players at the end, I think it's gonna be 352 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: a lot of fun. 353 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: Well, it's gonna be a lot of fun that American 354 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: League eest too, because we've got to raise right now, 355 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: Boom plus one fifty, the Yankees plus one sixty. This 356 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: is to win the division and the Red Sox sitting 357 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: all the way back at plus three eighty five, which 358 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: is and I understand why they're not getting respect, And 359 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: I think it's because you look at that rotation, you worry, 360 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: is it a paper tiger. The bullpen's been brilliant over 361 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. The offense is there. The 362 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: bottom of the lineup is still a little troubling, but 363 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: the main guys have carried them. When you have JD 364 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: and Raphael Devers and Xander Bogarts being great, you can 365 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: get by. Where do you want to put your money here? 366 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: If at all? Because this is a tight race, and 367 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: it seems like the Rays the last couple of years 368 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: have kind of had the Yankees' number and they're able 369 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: to You know, I said last year, and I know 370 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: we did a lot of shows together, but I said 371 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: going into last year that season was built for the 372 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: Rays because you knew nobody was gonna be able to 373 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: make big trays and bring in big salaries, and the 374 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: Yankees weren't going to do that. In the Red Sox 375 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: were building, so the Rays at a un position to 376 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: really be a playoff team go to the World Series potentially, 377 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: And I thought that this was just a perfect setup. 378 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: Now this year again, they're not gonna be able to 379 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: do that. But they can bring up these kids, and 380 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: they can bring up these guys. The Yankees have had 381 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: some injuries here. Stan's been hurt. We know Luke Voight 382 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: was back and then back on the il. Corey Klueber's 383 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: gonna miss some time tie on. We don't know how 384 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: long he's gonna last. There's some issues here with the Yankees. 385 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: Is it a good wager right now to get in 386 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: on the rais or do you think the Red Sox 387 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: are actually more fun considering you're getting the better odds there? 388 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 3: So I believe they're either third or fourth best in 389 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 3: the America League and run differential they were at plus 390 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 3: forty four, forty five somewhere along those lines heading into 391 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 3: the week, and that they can flat out they can 392 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 3: flat out ball. 393 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 2: Now. The starting pitching is what everyone is looking. 394 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 3: And saying, Oh, I'll slow down, right, You got and 395 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 3: aren't got crushed a little bit here Rodriguez. 396 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 2: But the bullpen. Look what that bullpen has done. 397 00:17:55,600 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 3: Matt Barnes with twelve saves, Garrett went, I mean, I 398 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 3: don't know anybody saw the bullpen as possibly one of 399 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 3: the strengths of the Red Sox, the starting pitching. I 400 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 3: think it's hit or miss, obviously, but with those bats, 401 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 3: and the problem I have with Tampa is they're two 402 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 3: different teams home and away. The way they win games 403 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 3: on the road is not the way they win games 404 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 3: at home. So I think from a consistency standpoint, and 405 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 3: even though their record right now in the road has 406 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 3: been absolutely phenomenal, I still think a dark horse here 407 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,719 Speaker 3: is the Red Sox. I don't want to count out 408 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 3: Toronto just yet, but I think the Red Sox will 409 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 3: as long as they can grind away from the starting 410 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 3: pitching what they've been getting from that bullpen, and that 411 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 3: lineup as good as anybody. I'll put them up against anybody, 412 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 3: including the Astros this week. 413 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: Well, the interesting thing is the Blue Jays are sitting 414 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: at plus six hundred, so if you really want to 415 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: take the long shot there, Robby Ray has been brilliant. 416 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, Robby Ray doesn't walk anybody. I 417 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: don't know what's happened there. Obviously, it's some mechanical fix, 418 00:18:59,280 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: whatever it's. 419 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: I've been a pitching coach. 420 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. 421 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 3: Because that guy's a he's a pitching whisper whatever it is. 422 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 3: When he's done to Robbie Ray is unbelievable. 423 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: And Hunjin Rio has been good since he came over 424 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: there too. I mean he was good with the Dodgers. 425 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: Everybody wanted to freak out when he went to the 426 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: American League, and he's been very good. The trick is, 427 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: what do you get after those two guys? Now? Once again, 428 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: if Alec Manoa could be that guy, I don't know 429 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: if he can. But you add in a real legit 430 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: third picture to that rotation, you get George Springer back healthy. 431 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: You want to speculate on the Blue Jays, this is 432 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: the time because this number can only shrink Joe that 433 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: in as far as this is going to be a 434 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: really tight race here, and if you like the J's 435 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: and you believe in what they can do, yeah, and look, 436 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: they're playing in Dneed and they're playing in Buffalo, they 437 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: have no home. It's a fascinating story the central I 438 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: think we all kind of feel like it's the White 439 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: Sox to lose. So I'm gonna waste people's time there 440 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: with that. But I want to talk about the Astros 441 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: and A's because they are deadlocked here minus one eighteen 442 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: for the Astros, minus one zher six on the A's. 443 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: Is this even a smart because I look at this 444 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: and I think all the pitching that the Astros have 445 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: shown you this year, even despite injuries, and now they 446 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: got fran ber Valadez back, I think this is the 447 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: Astros division to lose. Personally, I don't even as much 448 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: as I think the A's are always there and the 449 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: always show up. At the same time, I think you 450 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: have to acknowledge the Astros still have a very good 451 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: core offensively, and in terms of the pitching rotation, they 452 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: have more depth than a lot of other teams. They 453 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: send Javier to the bullpen now for a little while. 454 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: That means he's gonna be fresh in the second half 455 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,719 Speaker 1: if they need to call on him. So what's your 456 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: thoughts on the West in the American League. 457 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 3: It's interesting because Houston, I trust Auckland's bullpen more than 458 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 3: I trust Houston's bullpen. I think we can probably say 459 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 3: at this particular point, looking at Pettitt and Dykeman and 460 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 3: Guerer and what these guys have done for Aalkland, I 461 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 3: like their book didn't start off great against Houston, by 462 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 3: the way, but wouldn't that be a little foreshadowing to 463 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 3: what we're going to anticipate here at the end of 464 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 3: the end of the season, where these two are going 465 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 3: to be doing that the starting pitching. All right, I 466 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 3: give the nod obviously to Houston. I think both teams 467 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 3: they hit the contact. These aren't teams that are going 468 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 3: to These guys aren't going to walk a lot. These 469 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 3: guys are going to put the ball in play, which 470 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 3: seems to be what a lot of pitchers are referring 471 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 3: to do this year, is pitch to contact because they 472 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 3: don't seem too worried about barrels hitting the balls here 473 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 3: these days for some reason. 474 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 2: There, Joe, it's interesting. 475 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 3: So instead of strikeout, home run, or walk, pitchers seem 476 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 3: to be saying, all right, go ahead, put the ball 477 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 3: in play here, and let's see what happens. 478 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: Because of the shift. You put the ball in play. 479 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: I got twelve guys in one spot where you hit, don't. 480 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 2: Have to strike out, don't have to strike down. 481 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 3: Just got to get you to swing at my pitch, 482 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 3: which both of these teams do. I think huge run 483 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 3: potential from both. I would give the nod to the 484 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 3: A's right now. Just because I bass it. I mean, 485 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 3: you look at the names here, what Cole, Irvin, Bassett, Maneya. 486 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 3: You go through it, You're like they're solid. Nothing's gonna wow, 487 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 3: you know. But I think both are very comparable. Offensively, 488 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 3: I do like Oakland a. I like that bullpen a 489 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 3: little bit more for Oakland. And what an interesting ballpark 490 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 3: is still playing it. 491 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: Oh, interesting is a nice word for Surry. I've been there. 492 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: I've seen a baseball game in Oakland is the absolute worst. 493 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: It is the biggest dump. And I used to go 494 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: to games all the time in the old VET, which 495 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: was also an epic dump. Not even close. This is 496 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: the worst baseball plays ever. And I hope they go 497 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: play somewhere else someday in a better spot. Let's talk 498 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: about some National League Division winners. The Central just got 499 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: real interesting with that Jack Flaherty injury because he is 500 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: going to miss some time. After Flaherty and that rotation, 501 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: I got concerns. They're at plus one thirty. The Brewers, 502 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: who I was all in on, Oh my god, the 503 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: beginning of the year, I wanted nothing but Brewers all along. 504 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: Then the yellis back injury creeps up, and I'm jumping ship, 505 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: and I said, well, I can't do it anymore. I'm 506 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: out there plus one thirty. The Cubs had an epic 507 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: month of May, somehow worked themselves into relevancy. They are 508 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: a plus four hundred. I gotta say the Flawherty injury 509 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: is thrown a wrinkle here of epic proportions. And if 510 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 1: Saint Louis doesn't make a move for a Means or 511 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: Matthew Boyd or somebody like that, they're in a little 512 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: bit of trouble here right now, because I don't know 513 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: how much they can sustain with the guys they've got 514 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: in that rotation. But the Brewers have a three that 515 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: nobody else can match outside of probably the Dodgers in 516 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: the National League, or maybe the Padres too on if 517 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: every Blake'snell can find himself again. But the Brewers have 518 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: something special here with these three arms. What do you 519 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: want to do here? Is this a stay away? Do 520 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: you have a favorite here in the central? What does 521 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: this look like to you? 522 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 3: I think the Cardinals, and I think we talked about 523 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 3: this ahead of time. I think the Cardinals are overrated 524 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 3: to begin with. I think their offenses overrated. There was 525 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 3: a lot of questions about Aaronatto when he came into 526 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 3: the season ride you know, the whole curse of you know, 527 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 3: is he got that Colorado Rocky swing kind of thing 528 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 3: where it works great in Colorado. But when he's out 529 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 3: there he has been good. But I don't trust Martinez, 530 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 3: I mean outside you mentioned Flaherty, who was also and 531 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 3: I hate to break this Cardinals fans. I mean I 532 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 3: had faded him against Bauer there because he's due for 533 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 3: some regression here. 534 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: It was gonna come, like you, too many hard hit. 535 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 3: Too many hard hits, too many barrels on the ball, 536 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 3: started to walk more guys than what we would like 537 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 3: to see for a guy that's going to give up. 538 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 2: He's a fly ball pitcher who's going to give up 539 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 2: home runs. So it was coming. 540 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 3: I think they did an amazing job of winning and 541 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 3: scoring runs for him when he did pitch thus far, 542 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 3: but I think that was coming. And then after that, yeah, 543 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 3: what eighty five year old what Wayne Wright like you 544 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 3: got who can only pitch at home? You better only 545 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 3: schedule Wayne Wright and Bush because he can't pitch any 546 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 3: place else. So to me, you mentioned it only the 547 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 3: big three that I I will refer to and I 548 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 3: know you're talking about Woodruff and you're talking about Peralter 549 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 3: and of course uh Barns. But talk to me about 550 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 3: suitor Devin Williams and hater. You give me a lead 551 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 3: when I get into the sixth Enning. Guys, it's over, 552 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 3: it is over. And yes, I think the Adams trade 553 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 3: with Tampa a couple of weeks ago fantastic for them, too. 554 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: Well, they need offense. They know what they did not 555 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: do enough this offseason to surround and again, Trey Mancini 556 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: was the guy SA at the beginning of the year, 557 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: and that should be your number one target. As soon 558 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: as he shows he's how to go out there, overpay 559 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: for him. You know, he can play first base, he 560 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 1: can play the outfield. You can move him around. If 561 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: Yellwich isn't good, you all of a sudden surround Yellows. 562 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: There was a little bit more protection. I mean, what 563 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: more do you want this guy to do. It's a 564 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: very difficult spot there. I don't understand how. I mean. 565 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: Vegas is very smart, smarter than me, obviously, That's why 566 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: they build all those hotels. Here's my question to you. 567 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: The Mets have been favorites since the get go for 568 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: the most part. They've had the worst string of luck. 569 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: They've even had the Grom miss time. Noah Cindergard has 570 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: been shut down, Carrasco hasn't thrown a pitch this year, 571 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: and there's still a consensus minus two twenty five. Hin 572 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: is two twenty five? How in the hell is that 573 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: possible to win the East? The Braves are plus two eighty. 574 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: I know they lost Ozuna, right and I get it, 575 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: Like the Mets are built well, they have depth, and 576 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: this is the first time a Mets team has had depth. 577 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: You've seen Kevin Polar, Jonathan Vr, You've seen all these 578 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: guys step up into this void and these are real 579 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: major league players for a chance and for a change, 580 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 1: and that's something the Mets have not done a good 581 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: job with historically on their bench. Of having they have that. 582 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: It's showing they're still winning games despite that. But should 583 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: they be these kind of prohibitive favorites right now? I mean, 584 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: I'm a Mets fan. Maybe I'm just self loathing, but 585 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: to me plus two eighty on Atlanta, how do you 586 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: not kind of jump in on that? I just don't 587 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: get it. Do you see the Mets winning this division? 588 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 3: I absolutely do okay, and I'll tell you why. And 589 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 3: I don't think there's crazy. I think it's more an 590 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 3: indictment on what the market thinks of the Phillies, the Marlins, 591 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 3: the Nationals, like go down the list here. 592 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: Well, I think we can forget the natsaff Stephen Strasbourg 593 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: last night. I think we can finally say, you know what, 594 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: I think that's two hundred million dollars that was not 595 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: well spent. That's I think we can move onward on that. 596 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 3: Yes, And I think a lot of met fans in 597 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 3: you Knowice, how much money do you spend for Lindor 598 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 3: between mccam lindor. But to me, the talent is there 599 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 3: offensively and for them going into this week, I think 600 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 3: going into Monday night in the Memorial Day on a 601 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 3: thirty first that end the month of May. 602 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: You're talking about a Mets team with all that injuries 603 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 2: and everyone's for the last couple of weeks. 604 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 3: Who to hell is this play? How are they going 605 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 3: to score a run? They're five games over five hundred. 606 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 607 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: It's not so if they're. 608 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 3: Doing it, if they can sustain that when all the 609 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 3: chips are against them and they're losing guys. 610 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 2: Now they got Alonso back. What's he do? 611 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 3: First game back? He's mashing the ball all over the place. 612 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 3: Solidified the middle of that order. I still like the 613 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 3: bullpen obviously, I you know, the starting pitching, the two 614 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 3: guys at the top there between Stroman. Anybody see Walker 615 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 3: having the kind of year He's wow. 616 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: That's the guy. And I love that sign. I thought 617 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: that was low key one of the best signings of 618 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: the offseason. He was very good last year for Toronto. 619 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: Nobody seen the Karen notice. And this was a player 620 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: people forget. It was a very highly thought of prospect 621 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: back in the Seattle days going it was him and 622 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: Danny holtzon. Remember they were gonna change the Seattle rotation. 623 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: And here we go, all these years later, like ten 624 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: years now, there's Taiwan Walker finally putting it together. All right. 625 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 1: Before we get to A and NL winners in World Series, 626 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about the West because the 627 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: Dodgers are still prohibitive favorites minus two twenty. The Padres 628 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: consent is numbers plus one seventy five. You know, I 629 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: know the Padres like this volatile stop because you know, 630 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: Tatisa is so good and Machado's so great, But then 631 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: they've had some guys who had been struggling. Tommy fam 632 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: just started to hit. Blake Snell's got a five and 633 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: a half era, but you, Darbish and Joe Musgrove have 634 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: been great. It has been all over the place. You 635 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: never know what you're gonna get from Paddock. Is it 636 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: safe to say that it's still the Dodgers, They're still 637 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: the favorites, and it's probably still not the best way 638 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: to make money, or do you see the padres is 639 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: maybe finding a way to somehow put all these pieces 640 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: together and actually make a run here as we get 641 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: to the last two thirds of the. 642 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 3: Season, I think I think all the money, if you 643 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 3: were gonna vetit a West, would be fading the Dodgers, 644 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 3: who I think, have we knew were they're gonna win 645 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 3: one hundred and eight games? One hundred and seven here 646 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 3: and say, I mean, what was the the preseason win 647 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 3: tight or something? 648 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 2: What it was? 649 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: It was absurd? 650 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 2: Five eight? 651 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: Is something crazy like that? 652 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,479 Speaker 3: It's not going to happen. They've had to deal with 653 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 3: some injuries. They just get Mookie Betts back. Obviously, that 654 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 3: lineup and the names in it are starting to be 655 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 3: more of familiar. But they certainly don't have that same 656 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 3: kind of feel that they did last year, which I 657 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 3: think is acceptable because now that they've won it, they've 658 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 3: been there and done that, they understand it is a marathon, 659 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 3: it's not a sprint. The interesting teams there, of course, 660 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 3: I don't think anybody saw the Giants, uh and the 661 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 3: top end of that rotation doing what they still don't 662 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 3: like the bullpen all that much. But you know, between 663 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 3: Crawford Longoria and these guys that all of a sudden 664 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 3: are you know, they're doing some pretty special things right now, 665 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 3: getting enough run support the ballpark that they play in. 666 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 3: But it's the Padres to lose as far as I'm concerned. Here, Listen, 667 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 3: SNeW Granted, you're gonna get three innings, the best three 668 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 3: innings with all these six walks out of him, ever, 669 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 3: it's gonna be fantastic. 670 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's funny because you look at the 671 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: second you know, and this is where the fantasy nerd 672 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: me comes out a little bit, because you look at 673 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: some of the deeper numbers and you say, well, the 674 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: FIP is much better than the era. That's gonna start 675 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: to marginalize a little bit. He's never been a guy 676 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: who's gonna you know, you know, throw complete games. That's 677 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: not his deal. But yep, I'm with you. I think 678 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: the Padres are dangerous and I think you know it's 679 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: it's chasing. Chasing makes you dangerous when you're the team 680 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: that's chasing, when you're being chased, when you're at the 681 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,959 Speaker 1: top of the mountain. It takes a lot, you know, 682 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: those teams that are great perennially, it is tough, man, 683 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: because everybody's gunning for you, and the Padres are gunning 684 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: for him. And I think the Padres will be aggressive 685 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:57,959 Speaker 1: and get you. 686 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 3: You to add pieces, how many people even knew okay 687 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 3: they Machatta wasn't playing for the last month, like most 688 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 3: people don't even realize. 689 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 2: He wasn't even in the lineup. 690 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 3: And now to tease, obviously hopefully he'll be able to 691 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 3: get back. But now you've got Machado back on that 692 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 3: line up, there are dangerous. 693 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 2: They will mark they are good luck and what gets back. 694 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: Way to get back with that, let's let's get to 695 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: the American League and National League winners here right now, 696 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: the American League favorite is the Chicago White sow as 697 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: they should be. The look this, They've got the rotation, 698 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: they've got the offense. At some point, theoretically they're gonna 699 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: get a Layamnez and Louis Robert back for the playoffs. Theoretically, 700 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: right now, they have the bullpen, they have all the pieces, 701 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: and they got a little swagger, you know, Tim Anderson, 702 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: those guys, they've got a little bit of that swag, 703 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: and I think that is great. Mercedes has been terrific 704 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: for them, but Bray you is, you know, coming off 705 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: an MVP caliber season. I think Tony Larus is the 706 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: only thing that could be their undoing. I know that 707 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: sounds crazy, Like I love this plus two seventy five. 708 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: The Yankees are a plus three ninety, the Ras are 709 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: at plus four fifty. The Astros are a plus seven 710 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: to fifty. There's only two wagers I like, and it's 711 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: the Astros at seven fifty, which everyone's gonna hate because 712 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: there's that negative energy about them that people don't want 713 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: to see them. I don't care if you want to 714 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: see them or not. Pitching's going to win out and 715 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: they've got pitching, and they've got depth, and they've got 716 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: a chip on their shoulder. Also, which is kind of fun. 717 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: So for me, it's the Astros and it's the White Sox. 718 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: Do you see anybody else in this mix where you 719 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: would want to put money on at this stage in 720 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: the season, even though it's very early. 721 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 3: So it's interesting because we all know in the marketplace, right, 722 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 3: two teams that are always going to be overinflated in 723 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 3: the market Yankees and the dollarss right always. So the 724 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 3: fact that we can get the Yankees of what plus 725 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,959 Speaker 3: four plus four hundred plus three ninety somewhere in that 726 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 3: Ball of Fame if you are of the mind that 727 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 3: Yankees hermand getting back into it, get back looking better 728 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 3: and better at each outing right at the top with 729 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 3: Garrett Cole, the bullpen just flat out bawling, just exactly 730 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 3: what you thought. 731 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 2: If you believe the. 732 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 3: Pitching is going to maintain and the bats are gonna 733 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 3: come around, then at plus four hundred plus, you're gonna 734 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 3: get four to one. 735 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 2: I'll take the Yankees. 736 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 3: I'll take the Yankees now, I would have never taken 737 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 3: them prior to season, But I think much like an 738 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 3: in game, live betting type of situation where it's for 739 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 3: the Yankees exactly, and I. 740 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 2: Think the bats are gonna come around. 741 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,479 Speaker 3: They're gonna start mashing and destroying people, and then that 742 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 3: bullpen is gonna go to work where they're gonna win 743 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 3: them a lot of games late as the season moves on, 744 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 3: and then we're all gonna sit here in a couple 745 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 3: of months be like, how did we not choose the 746 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 3: Yankees at four to one. 747 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: I look, I think this is the time if you 748 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: like the Yankee Zach Britain making his rehab start just 749 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes from my house at Somerset for the double 750 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: A Yankees. Can't believe they're double A Yankees. Now crazy 751 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes for my house. All right, let's go to 752 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: the other side. You mentioned about the premium pay for 753 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: the Dodgers plus one seventy on them. The Padres are 754 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: a plus three to fifty, the Mets at plus four fifty. 755 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: The Braves are not a good playoff team because they 756 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: don't play well in short series. They don't match up 757 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: very well. But if the Mets could get right with Carrasco, Walker, 758 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: Stroman de Gram at four fifty, to me, that's the 759 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: one where again I still don't like them to win 760 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: the division. Somehow, I feel like again maybe I'm just torture, 761 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: but it feels like at plus four to fifty, it's 762 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: kind of like that other equivalent where you look at 763 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: it and go, you know, in a short series, this 764 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 1: is a team that when they do get healthy, they 765 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: can create runs, whereas some teams like the Yankees, they 766 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: have to hit the home runs. Lindor can start to 767 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 1: be Lindor, and that's starting to happen a little bit. 768 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: They're a very different team, and I think Jonathan vr 769 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 1: is gonna play a lot more for this team, even 770 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: when JD. Davis comes back. So what are your thoughts here? 771 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: Do you go for the Padres at three fifty, the 772 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: Mets at four fifty, or the favorite, the Dodgers, or 773 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: maybe somebody else. 774 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 3: I don't think you are going to be able to 775 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 3: get the Padres any better than what you can get 776 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 3: them right now if you did not bet them preseason. 777 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 3: Right if you are the Blade of Dodgers, I think 778 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 3: the team that another one of these plus three fifty 779 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 3: plus three sixty somewhere in that ballpark pitching the top 780 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 3: of the top of the rotation. 781 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 2: There, I love you, Darbyship top there. I love the bats. 782 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 3: I think they're gonna be able to outscore anybody, even 783 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 3: when they're not. 784 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 2: Getting necessarily the best pitching. 785 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 3: I think they're going to beat the Dodgers out in 786 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 3: the West, and I think as the season progresses that 787 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 3: number is only going to get closer and closer to 788 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 3: even money. So I think having the Padres at plus 789 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 3: three to fifty right now, them and the Yankees, yeah, preseason, you'd. 790 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 2: Have laughed me and said, yeah, yeah, okay. 791 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 3: Well I also wouldn't have been getting that price at preseason, 792 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 3: So I think now's the time for both. 793 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: All right, well, now's the time to go follow Joe 794 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: Vernierrio on Twitter at Joe Ranieri. You can go check 795 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: him out at wager Talk and of course on Sports 796 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: Grid all the time, all over that network, as he 797 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: should be because he knows what he's doing, and he's 798 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: fun and he's good people. He's the pride of Florida. Joe. 799 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough. It's always fun. Hopefully we'll 800 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 1: get you back on against Sutok's more baseball, and then 801 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: football is right around the corner too. We'll get you 802 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: around for that, my friend. Thanks for the time. 803 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 2: We appreciate it, Jojoe, I appreciate it. Best of law. 804 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 2: Cash and tickets. 805 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: There you go, cash your way. That'll do it for us. 806 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: But the story of the game goes on for one Joe. 807 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 1: This is the other Joe. We'll see you next time. 808 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 2: Kids,