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Speaker 1: textown text textown textop over time. Hey there, good afternoon,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to Spartanburg, South Carolina. It is one bills

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Speaker 1: line from Spartanburg. John Murphy seem castor the Bills are

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Speaker 1: here practicing with the Carolina Panthers. Practice number one just

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Speaker 1: back everybody to do three hours of Buffalo bills coverage's

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Speaker 1: gonna have to do and see how you're doing today.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing good. It's it was warm at practice. It

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Speaker 1: It's uh yeah, it's good though. I mean practice was

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Speaker 1: But was still great. A lot of great grass fields,

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Speaker 1: I mean as far as the fans were concerned, right,

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Speaker 1: They were saying the shout song. Yeah, the two fields

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Speaker 1: Captain Munlin's going to join us. Long time Carolina Panther

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Speaker 1: the hotel and and um, I saw a car with

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Speaker 1: some buffalo bumper stickers on it and and home and

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Speaker 1: it had to stay in New York in there, and

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Speaker 1: you know those bumper stickers. So it's that's great to

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Speaker 1: see you notice it. Right in there was that mass

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Speaker 1: exodus of Western New Yorkers to this area back in

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Speaker 1: the eighties or so mid eighties, and here they are

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Speaker 1: still here, still loyal Bills fans. Every time the Bills

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Speaker 1: play here, they get a huge crowd at Bank of

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Speaker 1: America Stadium. I expect the same thing Friday night, but

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Speaker 1: crowds here at training camp. That was pretty cool. Bills

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Speaker 1: fans at training camp. Yeah, and they were, They were enthusiastic,

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Speaker 1: and they all had stories that, Yeah, I used to

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Speaker 1: live in Orchard Park, I used to live in West Seneca,

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Speaker 1: used to live in Rochester, used blah blah, and on

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Speaker 1: and on. Everybody was from up there, um and said,

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Speaker 1: I can't you know, I'm raising my kids right, you know,

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Speaker 1: they're Bills. You know that kind of thing. So a

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Speaker 1: ton of Bills fans and you said you were talking

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Speaker 1: to a lot of them, and they all watched listen

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Speaker 1: to the show. Yeah, they invariably. Yeah, the show's great

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Speaker 1: with you and Murphy. You guys are great. We listen

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Speaker 1: to it all the time, Like what you know. And

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Speaker 1: Sean mcderman says, hey, we're worldwide. We're we're worldwide, not

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Speaker 1: nation wide, worldwide. One Bills live going in worldwide. It's true.

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Speaker 1: Though because of the technology these days, people can listen

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Speaker 1: to it worldwide. But um, they certainly are scattered about,

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Speaker 1: and there's people listening to this show all over the country,

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Speaker 1: and we hear about it. We hear about it all

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Speaker 1: the time, particularly even of course in Buffalo. Sure people

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Speaker 1: listen to it. So it's fun. That's gratifying, all right.

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Speaker 1: So we're in Spartanburg, South Carolina, a little town about

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Speaker 1: thirty seven thousand people, about an hour and fifteen minutes

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Speaker 1: south eat southwest of Charlotte, North Carolina, work an hour

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Speaker 1: and a half away from Columbia, the state capitol of

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Speaker 1: South Carolina. What else you need to know? I did

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Speaker 1: a little research, Remember I send the car coming down.

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Speaker 1: How why were there? I don't know why. The answer

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Speaker 1: maybe somebody can explain to me. I'm just being stupid.

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Speaker 1: But there does not seem to be a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of Civil War history around this part of the South.

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Speaker 1: On the other side of South Carolina, obviously Fort Sumter

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Speaker 1: and everything. But here I don't get that Spartanburg actually

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Speaker 1: was named after a military unit, the Spartans, who fought

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Speaker 1: on the Revolutionary War. I came across that tidbit. It

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Speaker 1: was a big milliing town Spartanburg. BMW has an assembly

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Speaker 1: plant here. You can you can they make beamers here.

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Speaker 1: Wofford College, I'm trying to think what else would be

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Speaker 1: of Wofford College is a nice campus. Beaut if you

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Speaker 1: can imagine, you can imagine where they got a growing

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Speaker 1: season like they do here, and it's hot and human

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Speaker 1: and yeah, the trees are phenomenal. That the landscaping, it's

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Speaker 1: very very hilly around campus. It's a beautiful campus. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's the setup is great. Wafford's awesome. Man, there's

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Speaker 1: football stadiums, a compact little place with the hills and

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Speaker 1: come down a little bowl. It's beautiful. So yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: encourage anybody to come down and check it out at

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Speaker 1: some point. It's fun. Come down. Hey, why don't you

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Speaker 1: give us a call? We can discuss about this week

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Speaker 1: the Bills and Panthers practices. What's the best thing the

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Speaker 1: Bills can get out of these joint practices with the

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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. That's our Twitter poll and three hundred sixty

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Speaker 1: votes in so far, forty five percent you say it's

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Speaker 1: a good measuring stick for Josh Shellen forty four percent

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Speaker 1: say that you get the competitive uptick in practice, eight

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Speaker 1: percent say you get a look at a three four defense,

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Speaker 1: three percent of something else in mind. Let us know

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Speaker 1: what you think. Eight oh three oh five fifty and

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Speaker 1: fifty lines are over and they have a couple of

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Speaker 1: tweets in Let take those tweets. Let's go to the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the

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Speaker 1: official movers of the Buffalo Bills Corgan Moving Systems with

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Speaker 1: our tweet sheet today. Can I find the tweet sheet here?

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Speaker 1: Let me get through it. Here we go from Josh

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Speaker 1: the best part of the joint practices with the Panthers.

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Speaker 1: Josh says, it'll be a good measuring stick for Alan

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Speaker 1: and the entire team. Gives an opportunity to compete against

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Speaker 1: different talent other than your own, with different looks and

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Speaker 1: opens the door for improvement. The whole team should benefit

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Speaker 1: from this, especially Alan. You're right, Josh, I will say this, Stephen,

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Speaker 1: I'm eager to hear if you agree or disagree. I

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Speaker 1: think the Buffalo defense has been a stiff was a

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Speaker 1: stiffer challenge for the Buffalo offense through those first two

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Speaker 1: weeks of training camp and what they got today from

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Speaker 1: Carolina's defense, I thought that Bill's offense looked really good

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Speaker 1: to do. I thought it was a good day for

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Speaker 1: when I'll bet there's thinking right now that's they're like,

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Speaker 1: th oh, okay, we can we can play. You know,

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Speaker 1: these blocks will works, scheme will work. Yeah, there's a

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Speaker 1: little bit of that going on. Plus you see some

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Speaker 1: guys like Isaiah McKenzie. You see guys like Robert Foster

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Speaker 1: doing some of the things we saw them do a

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Speaker 1: year ago. When you're going out there against Tradavious White

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Speaker 1: and Kevin Johnson and Levi Wallace and the corners on

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Speaker 1: the Bills, not that they see him every day, so

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Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to come up with something new

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Speaker 1: to beat him with, you know. So you get a

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Speaker 1: fresh look at some guys and you're a little bit rejuvenating,

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Speaker 1: a little adrenaline kicks in it, and they kind of

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Speaker 1: bust loose a little bit on the offensive side of

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Speaker 1: the ball. Best player I saw today was by the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo offense in red zone seven on seven work a

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Speaker 1: nice pass but a spectacular catch by Cam Phillips down

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Speaker 1: on the red zone. I'm not sure if you saw

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Speaker 1: that one, Steve, but did not. Just an amazing catch

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Speaker 1: by Cam Phillips. At some point, not today, we gonna

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Speaker 1: start talking about Cam Phillips and what he has shown

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Speaker 1: so far, what he's done so far, because he played well.

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Speaker 1: I thought last last Thursday night in the preseason game,

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Speaker 1: a guy who might have something to say about the

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Speaker 1: back end of the of the depth chart when it

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Speaker 1: comes to wide receiver. Something you think about, Yeah, all

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Speaker 1: those guys are are in that. They've got us start.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna start about you know what, some of these

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Speaker 1: catches I'm making are going to be. The difference maker

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Speaker 1: is getting that deep into camp, you're gonna get a

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Speaker 1: chance to go out and play on the field. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna get a chance to go play against the Panthers,

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Speaker 1: the Lions, and then the Vikings. Those games carry a

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Speaker 1: lot of weight and enjoint practices the same thing. Reps

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Speaker 1: start to get a little bit monotonous as you go

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Speaker 1: through training camp and when you get into situations they

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Speaker 1: are a little different and you seem to thrive in those.

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Speaker 1: It carries a little more weight. I think you know

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Speaker 1: they when when they change things up on you when

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Speaker 1: he's something that happens it's unexpected, as it always does

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Speaker 1: on a football field during the season, when something happens

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Speaker 1: and a guy does something he didn't know about or

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Speaker 1: didn't didn't expect, how you handle it says a lot

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Speaker 1: about the kind of football player you want and the

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Speaker 1: kind of football player they want you to be. And

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Speaker 1: the guys who handled the best guys you know, like

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Speaker 1: the guys at the bottom of the wife like Isaiah McKenzie,

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Speaker 1: Duke Williams, Nick Easily, Cam Phillips, Ray Ray McLoud, all

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Speaker 1: these guys there there. Some of those guys are a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks, a week away from being on the street.

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Speaker 1: It's free agents. It's just that simple. And they know it,

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Speaker 1: and they know it. They know it more than anybody.

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Speaker 1: They feel it, all right, we're feeling it. We're a

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Speaker 1: day into our first day here at Bills training camp,

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Speaker 1: which is on the road in Spartanburg, South Carolina, at

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Speaker 1: Watford College. Today they practice with the Carolina Panthers. Coming

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Speaker 1: up on the show in this hour. We hope to

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Speaker 1: get longtime Carolina Panther corner. Now with the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 1: Captain Munterland schedule to join us here at the Spartanburg

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Speaker 1: Mary At Hotel. Give us a call. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: what the Bills get out of this week or any

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Speaker 1: other Bills observations you might have full night's open eight

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Speaker 1: O three five fifty toll free one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. We're just getting started. It's

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Speaker 1: Deep Tasker John Murphy. It's one Bills Live from Spartanburg,

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Speaker 1: South Carolina, and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to one Bills Live from South Carolina. The Bills off

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Speaker 1: the field, off the practice field after workout with the

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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. John Murphy's Deep Tasker and our special guests.

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Speaker 1: One of the new Buffalo Bills. On the weekend flurry

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Speaker 1: of signings, they signed an eleven year veteran quarterback, Captain

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Speaker 1: Munterland is with US. High Captain, meet you, thank Coot,

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Speaker 1: see him. Yes, thanks for having me. This gotta be

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Speaker 1: easy for you. You're right back in your your neighborhood,

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Speaker 1: right where you went here to camp for what seven

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Speaker 1: or eight years? Seven years? I was here for seven

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Speaker 1: years and uh last year I was here, So I'm

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Speaker 1: back in my backyard. That I'm used to. I'm comfortable

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Speaker 1: with it. Um. I was telling the guys in the

589
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Speaker 1: locker room is gonna be hot, so make sure you hydrating,

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Speaker 1: don't wear a long sleeves. You were, yeah, you were

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Speaker 1: in South Carolina College. Yes, I mean this is really

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Speaker 1: the Carolina has been my home since two thousand and six,

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Speaker 1: since I left high school. You know, I've been in

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Speaker 1: the Carolina's and you know, I've always been my home

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Speaker 1: and I made him my home. Yeah, coming back now,

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Speaker 1: you what was your first and press when he came

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Speaker 1: in wearing a different colored jersey and entian pression coming

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Speaker 1: down that hill, coming out of hill. It was different.

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Speaker 1: It was different. You know, we took a bus so

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Speaker 1: coming down the hill, walking down the hill and um,

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Speaker 1: you know, seeing the different colored jersey and I got

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Speaker 1: a different colored jerseys one now and the fans still

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Speaker 1: like Kathine with all the Carolina stuff. It's like, oh, whoa,

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Speaker 1: I don't even want to sign that no more. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm with the Buffalo Bills now. But it was definitely different.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's exciting, man to go

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Speaker 1: out there and just to be playing football again. You've

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Speaker 1: been on the move now you live in Charlotte. The

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Speaker 1: Bills brought you up what over the weekend? Saturday? Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: and talk to you. They did not practice Saturday, but

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Speaker 1: got a got a meeting with him, and then you're

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Speaker 1: on the practice fielding and Buffalo Sunday. Yes, and then

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Speaker 1: flew down here Monday. Yes. I actually made a joke

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Speaker 1: with being and coach mcderman. I was like, listen, y'all

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Speaker 1: could have just waited till y'all got the spunberg. I

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Speaker 1: could have got my clothes together, got myself together, did

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Speaker 1: what I need to do, and got on the practice field.

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Speaker 1: But it was, it was, it was a key for

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Speaker 1: me staying. And you don't get to know my teammates,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you see, if you're a new guy,

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Speaker 1: you want to know your teammates. And then if I

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Speaker 1: would have just showed up down here and say if

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Speaker 1: I got in a little scuffle, you know, those guys

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Speaker 1: don't know me, right, you know what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 1: to have that day under my build might be all

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Speaker 1: by yourself. Yes, you know, I've just been real and

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Speaker 1: you know, being that I got a day on the belt,

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Speaker 1: they got to know me for a full day, got

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Speaker 1: to see what type of person I am and and

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Speaker 1: things like that. You know, I felt like, you know,

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Speaker 1: if I did got into something, they had my back

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Speaker 1: there where we left no, no, if nothing's going on.

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Speaker 1: It was cool, clean football. A lot of trash talking

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Speaker 1: about the same time. It was clean. Guys have fun

635
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: and we compete it. This is different though, when you

636
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: come in and bring two teams from other training camps,

637
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: you bring them together, there's always that thought about, wow,

638
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: how is this gonna go. There's gonna you have to

639
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: manage the tempo and you have to manage the intensity

640
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: because if you don't get out of hand in a hurry,

641
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: what what do you get? What's the best part about

642
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: this for your team? How what's this tell you about

643
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: your team? What's the benefits? The benefits for is it's

644
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: going against somebody else, you know, on a data basis,

645
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: we've been going against each other, you know, being a

646
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: training camp, you go against each other every single day.

647
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,719
Speaker 1: You get tired, you know, you get tired of going

648
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: against the same guys. And it's a good benefit for

649
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: the coaches to evalue, to evaluate you. With some of

650
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: your peers in the NFL, you know, some of the

651
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: guys around the league. So it definitely a great benefit

652
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: for us and both teams. I think both teams did

653
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: a great job that they're just going out there competing.

654
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: They kept it between the lines, and I feel like

655
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: we made plays and when it came to us, and

656
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: I really feel like we won today. You went deep

657
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: into the summer without a team, were always intending on

658
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: playing there. Yes, I never I never thought about a

659
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: retire you know, guys was asking me, man, what are

660
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: you gonna do, Captney, What you gonna do? I never

661
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: thought about retirement because I still live a game. I

662
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: still feel like I got a lot of football left

663
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: in me. Like I told y'all guys before we got

664
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: on air, thirty one years old. You know, everybody looked

665
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: at me like, oh, he's so old. I'm only thirty

666
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: one years old. I got a lot of football left

667
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: in me. I've just been in La Rong, I've just

668
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: been around the league a long time, that's all. But

669
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: got a lot of football left in me. And I'm

670
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: rid of the row. Yeah, he started young. You gotta

671
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: came out of South Carolini. You were twenty, yes, sir,

672
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: when he got drafted, came out played with him for

673
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,239
Speaker 1: five years, and he spent three years in Minnesota. Tell

674
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,239
Speaker 1: us about your experience up in the NFC North Oh. Oh, man,

675
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: it was a great experience. That was my first time

676
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: ever actually playing in cold weather. We played outside for

677
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: the first two years, my first two years standing up

678
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: there was outside and then we went inside. But it

679
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: was great, man, it was a great experience. I've never

680
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: really seen snow before because I'm from Mobile, Alabama originally,

681
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: and to get up there and see all that snow

682
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: and the practice in the snow and how some of

683
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: those cold's game was. It really made me tough, you know,

684
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: it really made me tough. So, uh, it definitely was

685
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: a different experience, but I love the experience in Minnesota

686
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: was a great, great time for me. Yeah, Minnesota's gonna

687
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: will be much colder than it will be in Buffalo.

688
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: Might get more snow in Buffalo, but it's colder in Minnto.

689
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: Really wow. Wow, I can't definitely handle even going on

690
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, well, because I definitely had a game

691
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: in the playoffs where it was negative like fourteen degrees

692
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: in Minnesota play Seattle. You won't get that. You don't

693
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: get that in Buffalo. I had to go to the

694
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: sideline every every TV time I was on the sideline

695
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: like this, they run back on the field. Nicole, Nicole Nickle,

696
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: I feel you, Bro's it's cold, Yeah, it a little bit.

697
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,719
Speaker 1: What's your outlook? I mean, what they tell you when

698
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: they signed you. What do they expect you to do?

699
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: Obviously it's important to them what they're trying to build

700
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: here where I thinks we was here about DNA. Yes,

701
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: so they knew the kind of guy you were, and

702
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: that's really important in this long Yes, it's it's very important.

703
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: I actually went to you know, Coach Mack and Coach

704
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: being m and Being the day and told them, man, y'all,

705
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: they're really building a great football team around here. You know,

706
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: the person nail that they got, the people that they have,

707
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: you know, it's great teammates. Man. Just to being around

708
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: the guys for a couple of days, you know, you

709
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: can tell you know, it's a great atmosphere that they

710
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: got in that building. And uh, what they what they

711
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: want out of me, man, is just come in compete,

712
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: be a leader that like I am. I don't want

713
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,239
Speaker 1: to step on nobody tolls or anythings like that, but uh,

714
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: you know, we got a lot of young guys in

715
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: the secondary, especially at the cornerback position and at the

716
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: nickelback position. So they just want me to come in

717
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: and you know, bring them under my wings. And if

718
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: it's you know, a competition. I told those guys when

719
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: they first signed me. I was talked to the young guys.

720
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: I said, listen, competition bring out the best of everybody.

721
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: You know, if I'm playing at my very very high level,

722
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: and I raise your game, whether you're playing at a

723
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: very high level, they brains make everybody better. It makes

724
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: the team better. So I'm all about going out there competing.

725
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: And I told those guys that's why I'm here for

726
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: this compete. If you win a job, you win a job.

727
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: But we definitely gonna go out there. We're gonna compete

728
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: and we're gonna see who who gonna win a job,

729
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: the best man win. With Bill's corner Captain Munland just

730
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: signed to the roster over the weekend. It's good competition

731
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: in that in that cornerback group, right, Sir le Wallace

732
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: tradevious White that Kevin Johnson, m arn Johnson, Yes, Saren

733
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: Niel's running nickel a little bit. Where do you fit

734
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: in the Are you a nickel primarily? Is that? Oh yeah,

735
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: that's that's basically my position. Um, you know, Coach McDermott

736
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: he had me when I was a young pup, and uh,

737
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: they taught me to nickel position in this defense, and

738
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: I fell in love with it. I'm definitely on a

739
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: nickel back. I love it. But if it's time for

740
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: me to play outside, I can do it too, But

741
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: nichols definitely is my primary role. I love it. I'm

742
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: a great blisser. I bring toughness and you gotta be

743
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: able to fit the run in this defense, especially nickel.

744
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,719
Speaker 1: You know, you never know what coach mcdermo gonna put

745
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: you in the box, and you gotta go out there

746
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: and make tassles. One of the things I want to

747
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: ask you about it that you mentioned just a minute

748
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: ago that a lot of people outside of football really

749
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: have a hard time getting their mind around. So you're

750
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: in this room with eight ten guys playing corner, you're

751
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: all playing for the same spot, and they're only keep

752
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: like five of you, six of you, maybe a guy

753
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: in practice squad. It's hard for people to understand the

754
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: not just the mentorship you're offering guys who are competing

755
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: for the same role as you, but also the friendship

756
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: you form with these guys. How how positive the room is,

757
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: how guys cheer for each other, hoping for the best

758
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: for each other, knowing that they're hoping the best for you.

759
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: It's a it's a real unique atmosphere for guys who

760
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: you know, a handful of which or whatever will be cut, yeah,

761
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: because of that competition. But it's true, there is a

762
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: real positive vibe in the room. I would imagine very positive,

763
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: very positive. I'm a firm believing guy. Man. You put

764
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: out good energy as well, you get good energy back.

765
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: And you know, guys, we know we compete, we know

766
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: we're going at it, and we know we we thankful,

767
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: like you said, five or six roster spots. But at

768
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: the same time, I always tell you, guys, man, if

769
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 1: you put great fam out there and you're a great

770
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: teammate and you're making plays, somebody will find you. You know,

771
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: it might not be with this organization, and it might

772
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: not be you know, with a team that you're hoping for.

773
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: At the same time, if you go out there and

774
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: you ball out and you put a great fan out there,

775
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: somebody who will find you. And the coaches on this staff.

776
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: Also no people around the league too, so they're gonna

777
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: get asked about you. How how you are in the

778
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: meeting room, how you were with the young guys, how

779
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: you manage being mentored by an older guy, it's a

780
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: young guy. All of that goes into the pot and

781
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: that keeps you with a job, Get you eleving your career,

782
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: corect Yes, sir, get your eleving your career. Get you

783
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: with a job, and keep you with a job, because

784
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: when coaches call around and you know you're not the

785
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: best teammate or you know you're you're not great with this,

786
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: great with that, and then it gets around the league.

787
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: You know, we're travel around the mouth around the league.

788
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: So you try to go out there and you try

789
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: to be the best teammate, best competitive, and you go

790
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: out there and try to compete. Captain, what do you

791
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: think of this joint practicing? You've probably done it either

792
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: in Minnesota or Carolina before. What do you what does

793
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: the team get out of it going up against something? Oh,

794
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 1: it's a fun fact. Man. You get to go out

795
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: there and you you get to compete, and then gets

796
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: different guys, you know, instead of going against your guys

797
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: every single day and training camp it's a grind. And

798
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: you know, teams don't do it at all, but some

799
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: teams have they fortunate to go out there and do

800
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: it and and it's just the grind. Man. They go

801
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: out there against somebody else that don't know you. You You know,

802
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: as the time it's go on, you start to know

803
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: your teammates when you go against them. You know, you

804
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: start to know they moves. Uh, Like a couple of

805
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: guys probably say, oh, yeah, he's aggressive when he do this.

806
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: But those guys over there, they don't know you, right,

807
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: You know, they don't know you by in training camp.

808
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: You know, they probably know you're doing the season when

809
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: they study film and stuff like that. But it's definitely different.

810
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's fun. I love practice

811
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: against somebody else because you get tired of going against

812
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: the same guys every single day, especially in the training

813
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: camp for twenty one twenty two days that you there,

814
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: so you're gonna be down here all week and then

815
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: they roll in, you know, Thursday Friday, you go back

816
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: to Charlotte, rolling to Charlotte and get ready for that

817
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: game Thursday night. What are your thoughts about being back

818
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: in that stadium playing against that team. I did it

819
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: before in my career when I was in Minnesota. We

820
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: came there in Charlotte and we played against the Panthers.

821
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: There was a different feeling. And to come back this

822
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: early in the preseason and I just left there, it's

823
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: gonna be different. Um. But at the same time, man,

824
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: like I said, I just love a game of football.

825
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: I'm just happy I got a job and I get

826
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: to go out there and I get to compete, you know,

827
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: And and I got the call at the right time,

828
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: you know, to get myself ready and getting myself playing

829
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: into football shape, and I'll be ready to roll. You'll

830
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: get up to uh Charlotte with the rest of the

831
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: bills later this week and hopefully get your stuff together.

832
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: You said, yeah, I gotta go home. I gotta go

833
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: home and give me some clothes. Man. I told coach

834
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: mc mcderman. I said, Coach mcman come on, man, can

835
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: I get go home to give me some clothes. And

836
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: didn't come back. But they weren't going forward. They would

837
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: not let me go to the airport. Nothing nothing but

838
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: bills geared to wear. Now you got family up in Charlotte,

839
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: them and a couple of couple of boys in the

840
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: little girl. Yeah, yeah, I got two boys and one girl.

841
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: My son he actually just left practice with his mom

842
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: with my wife, and uh, I get to go home

843
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: and you know see them and you know love on

844
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: them for you know, lead back out. How I just

845
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: want your sons. I'm looking at your two sons, Captain

846
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: and Champ. Yeah names, yeah, who come up with them?

847
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: Who named you? Camp? My great grandfather's name was captain,

848
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: and my grandmama she named me. My mama promised my

849
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: grandmama she can name the last child, and I was

850
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: the baby boy of the family, so she named me

851
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: after her dad. And my great grandfather was named Captain Moore.

852
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: So I'm Captain Munnling and I have a son that

853
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: I scarred with the name Captain Captain Mundling Junior. So

854
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: what about Champ champ Man. This is this crazy story.

855
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: My wife got pregnant when I was in Minnesota and

856
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: I was going around the locker room and she said

857
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: it was a boy. I get to name them. So

858
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: I was going around the locker room asking the guys.

859
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, what can I name my son?

860
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: And you had guys like Adrian Peterson Anthony Boy, Harrison Smith.

861
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: All those guys are chiming in like you should name this,

862
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: she should name of that and h Harrison's field. Actually

863
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: him and uh Saint Dahill came up with the name.

864
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: That's like, man, you should name hi champion. I said Champion.

865
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know if I liked Champion. And

866
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: I was like, man, you know what, how about Chimp?

867
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: And everybody's like, that's it Champ. And they used to

868
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: call me Tyler up there. They never want to call

869
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: me captain, Like we're not calling you captain, we're calling

870
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: you Tyler. So they just gave me the name. Those

871
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: guys just gave me the name south Else. So my

872
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: name was Tyler up there. So my son's name is

873
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: Champ Tyler mun So here's the thing. Now, you're gonna

874
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: go at this game. You're gonna be playing for the

875
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: Bills back in in Charlotte. All the family gonna be there, right, yes, sir.

876
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: They got their Bills gear instead the panther gear they're

877
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: gonna change over or what they definitely got to change over.

878
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: I don't want to see no panther g anymore. They

879
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: have to. My son actually showed up at practice the day.

880
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 1: He didn't have Bill T shirt on, but he definitely

881
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: had the color. He's a big Spider Man fan, so yeah,

882
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: so if it is his A Force ones, he had

883
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: on his red, white and blue. He had a Spider

884
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: Man hat on, so I was like, he fitting in.

885
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 1: So definitely gotta give them some Bill gear because I

886
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 1: don't want to see nothing. Carolina. No, Captain, and it

887
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: great to meet you. Yes, thanks for having me. Great team,

888
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: you have a great camp. Tyler, Captain munld and Bill

889
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: new Corner joining us. Steve and I coming back with more.

890
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: One Goes Live from Spartanburg, South Carolina. I'm Buffalo Bills ready,

891
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: welcome back. One Bill's Live from Spartanburg, South Carolina. The

892
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: Bills are here for a couple of days. Today tomorrow

893
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: they've got in their practice with the Carolina Panthers today.

894
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: They'll do it again tomorrow at nine fifteen in the morning.

895
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 1: Captain Mundlin never met him. What a great guy, great guy,

896
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: great guy. Yeah, it was fun to have him on.

897
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: He was he's eleven year vet. He's obviously got some

898
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: some stuff on the ball, you know, and being ready

899
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: and coming in and showing up in shape. Out of

900
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: the you know, over the weekend. Obviously he's been working

901
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 1: hard down here living in Charlotte as which he's made

902
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: his home, and um, yeah, it's good to see him.

903
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: He's a great guy. I mean, he's It's nice when

904
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: these guys come in and they and they echo what

905
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: we're hoping is true about how great the vibe is

906
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: here with the Buffalo Bills and what they're really building.

907
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: A guy like Munderling who's been on four or five

908
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 1: different four different team, three different teams with Carolina Minnesota,

909
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: then back to Carolina three years later with it when

910
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 1: it was probably a very different team, to say, hey,

911
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: this is really cool over here. Can I say this?

912
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: I look, collect all the talent you can, right, I

913
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: get that, and you never know who's gonna get hurt

914
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 1: and what's gonna happen. I just have a hard time

915
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: seen where Captain Munrolin fits into the cornerback picture. Steve,

916
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I think, I mean, obviously they're set with

917
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 1: Trudavious White. Lee By Wallace is at a good solid camp.

918
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: Kevin Johnson has been good. You know, tarn Johnson little

919
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: health issues early on, but he's okay, getting okay and

920
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: Siren Neil has worked at Nickel. I don't know where

921
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: he fits in. Captain Munland. I guess he fits in

922
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: as a Nickel candidate, right maybe, Well, it's like yeah,

923
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: and I think he's a depth player for sure, guy

924
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: that knows the defense and can be plugged in and

925
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: who knows if he's gonna climb the depth chart and

926
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: all of a sudden he's going to be starting their

927
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: nickel or starting their dime package or their big nickel

928
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: package or whatever you want to call it. He's gotten

929
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: gonna have a role to play on the field on Sundays.

930
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: That may well be. And I'm sure they know that

931
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: there are roles that they have in their defense that

932
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: Captain Munerland can fill. The only question they have to

933
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: answer is that we have somebody better and he's gonna

934
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: he'll you know, they'll find out over the course of

935
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: the rest of the training camp. And I think also too,

936
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: is you get him in here, have him here for

937
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 1: two or three weeks, get him acclimated to how they

938
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: do things, and even if he doesn't make this club,

939
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: and you send him back to Charlotte and say hey, thanks,

940
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: two weeks into the season or three weeks into the

941
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: season you may need it. And now he's been acclimated

942
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: and it's just a review session for him. And he's

943
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: the kind of guy you want. You know, he's out there,

944
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: he knows, he likes it there in Buffalo. It's easy

945
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: to have depth with a guy like Captain Munnerland, even

946
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: if he's not on your team, because he's such a

947
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: veteran player, such as quality guy that you can plug

948
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: him in and he'll remember all these guys and they'll

949
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: take him in and they'll just keep on keeping only

950
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot to like about it. He told me

951
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: he was a captain too, both in Carolina and in Minnesota,

952
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: Captain Kvison. That's when he talked. When Sean McDermott talks

953
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 1: about DNA, those are the guys he's talking about, Kurt

954
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: Coleman kind of right, That's right, That's exactly the same

955
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: guys who other players, their peers vote to be a

956
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: leader and vote to represent him. That's it's big. Hey

957
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: know what we have not talked about this week, and

958
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: we are probably remiss in not doing that. The Antonio

959
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 1: Brown soap opera. It's crazy and I guess I avoided

960
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: it well we only had yesterday. Yesterday was Monday, right, Yeah.

961
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: I recall thinking we should talk about this, and I thought, well,

962
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: that's crazy. I'm not going to waste any time on that.

963
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: Nobody would sit out because of a helmet or threatened

964
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: to sit out. But it's it's gone so far, and

965
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: now Antonio Brown has a helmet that he wanted to wear.

966
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: The helmet was disallowed, but he may get to wear

967
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: the type of helmet he wanted. The Raiders and Brown's

968
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: representatives have been in contact. The NFL has approved Brown

969
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: wearing a helmet model that he wants. A shoot air

970
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: advantage if he finds a helmet that fits him and

971
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: is less than ten years old. That was a problem.

972
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: The helmet he liked was older than ten years and

973
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: they couldn't approve it anymore. The helmet he likes the

974
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: company stopped making in twenty eleven, and his current helmet

975
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: is more than ten years old. They're still find to

976
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: find trying to find the right helmet it's less than

977
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,919
Speaker 1: ten years old. If they can find one that's new

978
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: in a box right that hasn't been used, it will

979
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: be good enough to pass the you know, the evaluation process.

980
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: If it's not if they can't, like you know, think

981
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: about it. I mean they go to you know, wherever,

982
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: like you know, eat, South Carolina State or East Carolina

983
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: or Utah State or any college in the in the country,

984
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: or the company will have everybody they've sold him to.

985
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: They'll know who's got him and who's using him, who

986
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: may have one that has been using it. And like

987
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: he tried to do with his old helmet, they just

988
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: painted from Pittsburgh black to Raider silver. And that's what

989
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: he'll do. They'll just grab it and paint it up

990
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 1: and they'll be off and running. Two things about this

991
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: one the NFL. I've read a quote from an NFL

992
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: official yesterday who said, look, we're not fooling around here.

993
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: If he can't wear that helmet, and if we're not

994
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: going to approve that helmet for practice or games, so

995
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 1: he would have to forfeit that money. Right the Raiders

996
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: that say we were not paying you, you can't practice

997
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: or play in that helmet, and the NFL is not

998
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: fooling around saying go ahead and practice with it. That's

999
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: how seriously they want to take this too. Antonio Brown

1000
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: is exactly the type of guy that we thought he

1001
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: was coming out of Pittsburgh, right, They make a big

1002
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: deal to make a soap opera out of this, and well,

1003
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,959
Speaker 1: I'm not playing now. And how would he have how

1004
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,479
Speaker 1: we're talking about Captain Munlin and Kurt Coleman. How would

1005
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: have Antonio Brown fit at all on the culture of

1006
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: this team if somehow the Bills had gotten him. You're right,

1007
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: it would not. And that is in conjunction at the

1008
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 1: same time the other story about he was injured, he's

1009
00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: got frost bitten feet. Yeah, for not doing the right

1010
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 1: thing when he got into cryod chamber. I mean, good grief,

1011
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: who does that? You know, you gotta do do things

1012
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: the right way. There's a reason you do them that

1013
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: way is because it works best they've you know. So, Yeah,

1014
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: it's he he's had a great he's had a Oh yeah,

1015
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: he would not have fit in here. There's no There's

1016
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: nobody remotely like him on this roster, is there. I

1017
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: don't not in that way? No, they And I think, well,

1018
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 1: who knows, but he's not here. And I think right now,

1019
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: Bill's fans and are like good riddens. Yeah, And I

1020
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: think Steeler fans and Steeler teammates are like going good riddens.

1021
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: I told you, you know, let's take a quick call here.

1022
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: Sean is on the line from Cheeta Waga. Hello, Sean, welcome,

1023
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: you're on the air with this. Hey, how are you doing.

1024
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: I'd like to talk about well you've given that's I

1025
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: let me tell you say that I had a huge

1026
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: question marks about whether we could take a phone call

1027
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: from Buffalo down here in Spartan set up as Rochester's fist.

1028
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just didn't go too well in

1029
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: Rochester either. If you'll remember a point if your makes

1030
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: her reminding me, all right, we got one hour in

1031
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: the books. Two hours ago we got Pete Metzellar was

1032
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: one of the all time greats from the Buffalo Bills.

1033
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: Pete Metzelar is gonna join us when we come back

1034
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: for hour number two. To come on back, One Bill's

1035
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: Life presented by Kalida Health from Spartanburg, South Carolina. And

1036
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bills Radio to the end, Done to

1037
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: do to down, totstop time, Welcome back, where you are

1038
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: coming to your life from Spartanburg, South Carolina. John Murphy's

1039
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: Deep Cansker and what is teammates up? Familiar face you

1040
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: might recognize him if you're watching on the MSG PEAT.

1041
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: Pete Metzelars a long time Bill said, then joined us

1042
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: here down South Carolina. Hello Pete, good to be welcome

1043
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: to the South. Yeah, it's just a little sweat going on. Yea.

1044
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: How far as just from your home, about fifty minutes

1045
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: not too far, fifteen fifty fifty from Charlotte, right, I'm

1046
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: it's just south of Charlotte in South Carolina, the good

1047
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: good side of Charlotte. You've been your home down here.

1048
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: You've made your home down here since pretty much. You

1049
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: signed with the ninety five. We've been here since ninety five.

1050
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 1: You know, I've gone different places around the country coaching

1051
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: and stuff. But we've got my home major from Indiana, Illinois,

1052
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: Michigan and okay, Western Michigan. Yeah, which all the people

1053
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 1: from Michigan they hold your head up and run from Yeah,

1054
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: I got you. Yeah, so Michigan. And then spent some

1055
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 1: time in Buffalo a little bit, and yeah, I knew

1056
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: I didn't want to live in the snow the rest

1057
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: of my life. So you leapt around around the NFL

1058
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: for a while, to Indianapolis and stuff. Yeah, coach coach

1059
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: wise Indie back to Buffalo, San Diego. Right, and now

1060
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: you're coaching high school ball, coaching high school team. Yeah, yeah,

1061
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: it's been fun. I've coached. I've been. I helped coach

1062
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: the offensive line the first year three years ago, and

1063
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: then as offense coordinated the last two years, and we

1064
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: won state championships both years. That wow. Yeah, so so,

1065
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: but we graduated eight Division one players last year of

1066
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: our team, so so it is. So we're kind of

1067
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: rebuildings players, not coaching. Just don't mess it up. People.

1068
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: You came to Buffalo and want to I know you're

1069
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: buyo in front of me. I know it was mid

1070
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: eighties and you came from Seattle, right agency, no trade

1071
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: Iron franklo Oh yeah, wide receiver, wide receiver. He's a

1072
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: guy Chuck Knox had drafted. Yeah, and then Knox came

1073
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: out to Seattle and I played for I think guess

1074
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: two years with Knox and then he traded. I guess

1075
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: it is ended up being a straight up trade buyer. Franklin.

1076
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: For me, what time of year was there? It was

1077
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: right before the third preseason game. Okay, actually my first

1078
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: game of Buffalo. I get there, I'm like, I don't

1079
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: even know what Thursday, and we play a preseason game

1080
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: on Saturday Enriched Stadium and it's a gully washing rainstorm

1081
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: and like the waters shooting out of the spouts out

1082
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: of the stadium about ten feet out onto the field.

1083
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: It's like, what in the world did I just get into?

1084
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, and you, um, well, I mean you came

1085
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: from Seattle. You knew what rain was all about. I know,

1086
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: but we played indoors. That's right. Well you did you

1087
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: welcome that trade at that time? Peter, were you like,

1088
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: what's happening here, I'm moving coach to a team that

1089
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: doesn't want it? Was? Well, I like to tell people,

1090
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: you know, Buffalo had just gone two and fourteen and

1091
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: Seattle we've gone twelve and four. This was previous eighty two,

1092
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: eighty through eighty four. Okay, we went twelve and four,

1093
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: made the playoffs. The year before, we had gone to

1094
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game out in Seattle. So Kurt Warner

1095
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: and the Yeah, Kurt Warner and Dave Craig and Jim's Orner,

1096
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: I mean Jimson was there. Yeah, the other Kurt Warner

1097
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: and Kenny Easley and on and on and on. So

1098
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: we had a really good team, and you know, we're

1099
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: projected because Kurt Warner was coming back. He had been

1100
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: hurt that that year eighty four, I blew his knee out,

1101
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: and uh so we're projected to have a good chance

1102
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: to you know, kind of make a Super Bowl run.

1103
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: And Buffalo was getting ready for at that point in

1104
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: time another two or fourteen season. Jim was not there yet. No,

1105
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: it was before that. So I'd like to say that,

1106
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: you know, Buffalo was a team. Yeah, yeah, Vince fairy Gamo,

1107
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: Vince Ferragamo. Yeah. But I always tell people, I said,

1108
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: you know, when Buffalo was a team, you got threatened with,

1109
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, if you don't start playing better, we're

1110
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: gonna send you to Buffalo. And I said, and I

1111
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: got set to Buffalo, I said, and so, but but

1112
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: it's still at the same time, it was like I

1113
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 1: got a chance of going there and I could play, proved, hopefully,

1114
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: proved I can be a starter, blah blah blah, you know,

1115
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: and you know, eventually it worked out. It did work. Yeah,

1116
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: what do you think that? But the eighty five season,

1117
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: we're there. You know, Bruce is on the Bruce's rookie year,

1118
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: Andre's rookie year, Tally's there. Jim Richards still there. No,

1119
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: he wasn't there yet eighty seven and seven. He was

1120
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: there when I got there. Well, you can't come till

1121
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: the middle of the middle middle eighty six. Oh was

1122
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: it okay? Yeah? I think he was. But we had

1123
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: a lot of good players there. It's just, you know,

1124
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: we didn't have a quarterback, and you know, didn't have

1125
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: a lot a lot of stuff going on. It had

1126
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: some had some goofy stuff going on, the goofy stuff

1127
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: just a little bit. Yeah. I got there the week

1128
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: after Marv got hired on a Monday, when they they

1129
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: fired Hank on Sunday, hired Marv on Monday, and I

1130
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: got there on the Saturday week you right after we

1131
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: late in the week off off waivers and my first

1132
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 1: game was Mark. Who's this guy? Oh my gosh, how

1133
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 1: was this guy going? He supposed to be a special

1134
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: midday of my life. And I was happy to be

1135
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: in Boffo when that era, Pete, we're with Pete Metzler's

1136
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: by the way, long time Bill's tight end. When in

1137
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: that era did you begin to think we got something

1138
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: going on here? Did it take Kelly's arrival in eighty six. Yeah,

1139
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: I think Jim's arrival that kind of that changed that

1140
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: dynamic of the whole thing, and it made it um,

1141
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: you know, because the Ralph's reputation was that he wasn't

1142
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: going to pay players and he was cheap and saw

1143
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: and so forth. And then when he stepped up to

1144
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: sign Jim and make that happen, it was like, Ooh,

1145
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: he's getting in on this thing and we got a chance.

1146
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: And it just kind of built from there. As you know,

1147
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: they put the team together and build drafted the players

1148
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: they got, they got a chance to draft it, and

1149
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,439
Speaker 1: you know, and it just you saw the team start

1150
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: building and being put together and stuff. And I think

1151
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: it was it was Ralph's commitment to getting Jim Kelly there. Yeah,

1152
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:34,959
Speaker 1: you could see that. And you hear the stories about

1153
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: when Ralph signed Jim Kelly. There was a line of

1154
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: season ticket holders. They everybody wanted a season ticket after that.

1155
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: And I remember too, a lot of things came together

1156
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: for that team right about that time, when Bill Poling

1157
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: became GM Marv as a head coach, and then Marv

1158
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: assembled his staff in eighty seven, and I think the

1159
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 1: team might have gotten better a little quicker, but the

1160
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 1: strike year of eighty seven. Really yeah, kind of put

1161
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 1: it up. I think, well, I think our our scab

1162
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: team went over for three or over four hover many

1163
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,720
Speaker 1: games they played. And you know there's some great stories

1164
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: that took place in that that. You know, the starting

1165
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: center who was going to play on the team for

1166
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: the first game got it. He was from Canada and

1167
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: didn't have a green card, and Buffalo News wrote an

1168
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: article about him on Saturday morning. So they lost their

1169
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: starting center Saturday morning before the game on Sunday. And yeah,

1170
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 1: well you think Bill Polly ever forgot that. He was

1171
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: so mad and the guy who wrote that story and

1172
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 1: then getting Will Grant came back to play in the

1173
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: last game against the Giants and U and yeah, oh gosh,

1174
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: start they well, Lawrence Taylor. The whole defense was Lawrence.

1175
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 1: You just line up on the center and go wherever

1176
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: you want to go, and go make the tackle. And

1177
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 1: Will got it like his fourth or fifth holding call

1178
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: the middle of the third quarter and comes off the

1179
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: field and and Marv goes, Will, you're killing us at

1180
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 1: your fifth holding call, and he goes, well, coach, actually

1181
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: it's not that bad because I'm holding him every play.

1182
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: True story Yeah, so that that year, you know, the

1183
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: team it kind of took some steps forward, but we

1184
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: you know, we really didn't. I think the good part

1185
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: about it is we kept practicing up at up at

1186
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: buffs Ub or whatever on some nasty astrator field. But

1187
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: we would we kept practicing all through that just and

1188
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: you know, we'd have secret meetings with Bill Polian down

1189
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: at the Big Tree and he'd come by and we'd

1190
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: be you know, walking the pike at Live. He'd be like,

1191
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: meet me at a Big Tree and he kind of

1192
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: updated us with what was going on and stuff, and

1193
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: so it kind of was a team builder kind of thing.

1194
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: That's kind of an update on what the Yeah, it

1195
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: was hard to keep updated. It wasn't like it is

1196
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 1: today where we didn't cell phones and all of that.

1197
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 1: It was just there weren't any so it was all

1198
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: by personal phone call or personal conversation, so you you know,

1199
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: you didn't get and if and the conference website or that. Yeah,

1200
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: all that was so he dried buy out the car.

1201
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: He'd be in a back seat, he roll the window

1202
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: down and be like, meet me at the victory and

1203
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 1: he'd roll the window back up and keep out going

1204
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 1: and funny none of you guys were reluctant to do that. Yeah,

1205
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: let's go at all. But so that that season and

1206
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 1: an eighty eight hit and out of the Blue team

1207
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: twelve and four. Yeah, and it was a different, different atmosphere.

1208
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: I think one of the things that doesn't get enough

1209
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: credit for what Marv did in Buffalo and what happened

1210
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: in Buffalo was the staff that he assembled when he

1211
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: first got there, with Teddy Marcha Broda as offensive, particularly

1212
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the well. Teddy Marcha Broda's the

1213
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:39,720
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, Elijah Pitts Nick was a phenomenal h Teddy Contrell,

1214
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: um Walt, you know, Chuck Lester, all the guys that

1215
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: were there through that, that staff seemed I don't know,

1216
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: you know, they seemed to work really well together. I

1217
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,280
Speaker 1: think they did, and they got They had a whole history,

1218
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: and you know, when you get into coaching business, you'll

1219
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: find out that everybody's intertwined somehow, some way, someplace, and

1220
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: he he picked the guys that he wanted to be

1221
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: on the staff and the fruit of it was was

1222
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: good builds up former Bills Titan and Pete Mentellers is here,

1223
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: lives here, he joins US in Spartanburg, South Carolina. Um.

1224
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: You you've had a long coaching career, and I wonder

1225
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: what you learned from those Buffalo years, watching that coaching

1226
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: staff that Steve talks about that you brought to your career.

1227
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: I mean not specific plays or or things like schemes,

1228
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: things like that, but just kind of ways that ways

1229
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: to treat players waiting on. That's why I think, you know,

1230
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: is you treat players like like they're like they're adults. Um.

1231
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: You have high, high expectations, UM, and you you kind

1232
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: of set the bar high and this is what we

1233
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: expect from you and hold on to that standard. And

1234
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: you practice at a hopefully as close to game tempo

1235
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: as you possibly can. Practice fast, you know, don't be

1236
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,959
Speaker 1: out there just grinding on and on and on. But

1237
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: but get your work in, do the work, have a

1238
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: purpose to everything you're doing, Move quickly and get off

1239
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, if you practice as a kid. You know,

1240
00:57:58,240 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: kids will go out to practice. How you see youth

1241
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: football players do it all the time. They'll go out

1242
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: they're just trying to get through practice. You know, they're

1243
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: trying to you know, they don't want to you know,

1244
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: trying to make sure they didn't get a drink when

1245
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: they're supposed to, and then trying to kind of watching,

1246
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: you know, and this at the higher levels, obviously you

1247
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: get more committed players and at somewhere along the line

1248
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,479
Speaker 1: you have to you know, they get to the point

1249
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: where you know what you you you're liking this, this

1250
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: is what you're made it. This is why you That's

1251
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,479
Speaker 1: why you stay in shape. This is why it's fun.

1252
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: You get to go out there and you get a

1253
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: run around, You get to play football against these guys

1254
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: that that are your buddies and and and your opponents

1255
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: as well. It's well, when you got there, it was

1256
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,959
Speaker 1: it was a dramatic change from the Hank Bullet tenure. Sure,

1257
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: you know, Hank would be out there. We're out there

1258
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: for all close to three hours, and you know, there's

1259
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: they used to do a drill with outside linebackers. There's

1260
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: a power drill and the tight ends we got to

1261
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: be involved in it. All we had to do was

1262
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: step out of the way. So for fifteen minutes, all

1263
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: we would do is step out of the way, and

1264
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: then our fullbacks would get an eight yard running start

1265
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: and the linebackers just had to take them on one

1266
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 1: after another after another, and we had like carl By

1267
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: Rome and I already know the line of big, yeah, big.

1268
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: You know, they're two hundred and sixty pound pull backs

1269
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: and they're just just getting a free run at the linebackers.

1270
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: You just got to take them on with your shoulders.

1271
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: And Darryl Talley and all the outside linebackers being in

1272
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,439
Speaker 1: the training room after practice was just huge ice bags

1273
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: on their shoulders and it'd be just like, oh, yeah,

1274
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: fredmur it's we haven't We've instituted everybody's on that teams.

1275
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: Those teams instituted a dollar fine system for anybody who

1276
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: brought Hank Bull's name after Fred Spurless, because then you

1277
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: have you're stuck for an hour hearing stories. But there

1278
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: is it really true that they they they did a

1279
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: nine on seven drill in the parking lot there we

1280
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: did and on the asphalt on asphalt we were it

1281
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: was nine seven is a run a run drill where

1282
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: there's well we were it was raining outside, so we'd

1283
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: moved into the gym and they had all these tennis

1284
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: shoes for us to wear. Chuck Taylor down, Chuck Taylors,

1285
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: Chuck Taylors were all the shoes that they had here.

1286
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: Put these Chuck Taylors out, so you go practice. They

1287
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: d those to the hot commons right something like where

1288
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: they all had Like so we're trying to have our

1289
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: regular practice indoors in the gym, but for don't you

1290
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: and Hank gets mad and he's like, all right, we're

1291
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: going outside. So we go outside to do inside drill

1292
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: full full lot, you know, basically live, you know, just

1293
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: run game stuff. And we're out on an asphalt parking lot.

1294
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: It's like, what are we doing? So Marv came in.

1295
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: We went from a three hour practice to a two

1296
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: hour and ten minute practice with the same number of

1297
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: reps doing the same things, just doing it with a

1298
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: more of a purpose to it and an organization to it.

1299
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: You played with the Bills, played in the Super Bowl era,

1300
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: and then left to go to Carolina. To come down

1301
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: here to Carolina and you you you had people around you.

1302
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: Frank Wright came with you, Paulin and was setting up

1303
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: the team. They had to make it easier to leave.

1304
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: What we're very good a little bit well, plus Buffalo

1305
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: didn't want me anymore, so they say, see you kind

1306
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: of like yeah, so actually it went the gosh, I

1307
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: just drew a blank on his name. But the equipment

1308
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: guy from the Panthers, he just retired. He was up

1309
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: visiting Buffalo finding out how about stuff the year before

1310
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: in ninety four, and I saw him in the in

1311
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: the trading room or the equipment room. I said, hey,

1312
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: next year, and make sure you spell my name right.

1313
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: It's m et Z e L. You know, And then

1314
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: we behold. I d up signed down here, so you know,

1315
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: worked out and um, you know, actually we had gone

1316
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 1: the year before. My wife and I were homeschooled our boys,

1317
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 1: and we'd gone out to Arizona to visit Phoenix and see,

1318
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 1: you know, maybe do want to live out in Phoenix

1319
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: and you know, and Phoenix is even hotter than this,

1320
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: so it was like, no, I don't want to do that.

1321
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: Plus it's all brown. So so the next year, we're

1322
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: going to come down to. Charlotte was next on our list.

1323
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: And then we signed down here, and that's been good.

1324
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: I was talking to today Bill Rosinski, who did the

1325
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: radio play by played for that those teams years were

1326
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship game in your second year. I

1327
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: was gone by then. Oh, you were sorry, I'm sorry,

1328
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 1: I went. Yeah for two years. Yeah, but that team

1329
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: was successful. No, that was really good. Yeah, yes, they were.

1330
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 1: We went. I guess we end up going seven and

1331
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 1: nine our first year. We had a chance to go

1332
01:01:58,040 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: eight and eight, end up losing our last game of

1333
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: the year. But we uh, I think we started owing

1334
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: four and then we started together for the Nancion team

1335
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: and stuff, so we had, you know, but they had

1336
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: they had pretty liberal laws or whatever, and the people

1337
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: who are who got exposed and stuff, and so you're

1338
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: able to build a team. Expansion changed because in a

1339
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: year in the interim, Bill Poling had left the Buffalo

1340
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: Bills obviously and worked for a year in the NFL

1341
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: laying out the rules or how to build a team

1342
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: and what they could do. So then he gets hired

1343
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 1: by the expansion Panthers and takes advantage of those rules,

1344
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: and there they're in the NFC championship. Jacksonville Jacksonville even

1345
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 1: had the same thing. They had a really good team thing,

1346
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: you know, So they learned from that, and then when

1347
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: Houston came on board, they're like, you know, you guys

1348
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: are going to get a good player. You're gonna be

1349
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 1: bad for a while. So and you coach for a while.

1350
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: Where'd you started in Indianapolis? I went with Indianapolis. Yeah,

1351
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 1: I coached there for eight years, got to win a

1352
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Yeah, that was that was fun. Um, you know,

1353
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: one of the best experience of my life. Ticket. I

1354
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: was down on the field actually with about I was

1355
01:02:58,160 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: up in the press by. That was the only super

1356
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: ball that has rained the whole game. So I was there.

1357
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: I was one. So I'm up in the press box.

1358
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: It was dry up there. It's got a nice So

1359
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: about six minutes to go into game, I was looking

1360
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: through binoculars. I looked over to score as you know whatever.

1361
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: It was twenty nine to sixteen or whatever, and I

1362
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, we might win this thing.

1363
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: It's just I don't even think about it, don't. So anyways,

1364
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: we've end up winning. We take us right down on

1365
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: the field and uh my son and two sons and

1366
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 1: Barb were sitting right at the top of the lower bowl.

1367
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: So they come down, jumped down on the field. The

1368
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: three of us turn around and barbs up to cry

1369
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 1: and that we finally won one of these dark things

1370
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: or whatever. And the two or three of us turned around,

1371
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: or it's like we finally won one of those things.

1372
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: That was a great story. The coaching continued and brought

1373
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: to you to the Buffalo Bills twenty twelve and chan

1374
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: Gailey staff. Yea, what do you recall about that season?

1375
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: Just that we were so close and just gave some

1376
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: games away at the end of the game, you know,

1377
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: whether it was a turnover offensively that allowed the team

1378
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 1: to go down to score or another or just breakdown

1379
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: defensively that you know we had. We did some really

1380
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: good things that just quite just couldn't quite get over

1381
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: the over the hump, and you know, and they end

1382
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 1: up letting all of us go after after that, Scott

1383
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: Chandler as your primary Chandler, Lee Smith going and so

1384
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 1: you know, we had some good players and it's just,

1385
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, we would just make mistakes

1386
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, just not quite good enough.

1387
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, as you know you wish you

1388
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: there's times where we put, um, gosh, who's our quarterback,

1389
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,439
Speaker 1: come on, help me out? Yeah, fits, you know, where

1390
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 1: you put fits in situations where he kind of had

1391
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 1: to win the game and it's better if he's just

1392
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: kind of protecting the lead. And you know, and got

1393
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 1: a defense that doesn't force him to have to go

1394
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: win games. Um, and our defense wasn't quite good enough.

1395
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 1: And you know, we signed Mario Williams and ever expected

1396
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 1: him to come in and just crush people and stuff,

1397
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 1: and and he never did in Houston because we played

1398
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: against him twice a year every year in Indianapolis. And

1399
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: it's like, well, he's the same guy as he was

1400
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 1: in Houston. Just because you paid him or doesn't mean

1401
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna be That doesn't mean he's gonna be a

1402
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: better player. Did you say that a little bit. Yeah,

1403
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: it's like he's playing like he's played in Houston. So

1404
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: you know, everybody's all upset, like gosh, how he's It's like,

1405
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: that's that's where he is. Yeah. So now you're coaching

1406
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: high school football, do you what do you keep track

1407
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 1: of if anything in the NFL? He'd watch it a

1408
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 1: little bit. I watched it and stuff I watched. You know,

1409
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 1: I'm still a fan of the game and stuff and

1410
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: kind of watch trends and stuff, and you know, I'll

1411
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: watch it now and I'll see play Oh hey we

1412
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: can do that, and that's you know, try to steal stuff.

1413
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 1: You know, that's how football is. Everybody seeing stuff from

1414
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: everybody else. I don't know who has the original thought,

1415
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: but it's not very many people, right. Um it's probably

1416
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 1: some high school coach somewhere and some NFL guy goes, oh, man,

1417
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 1: that's a good idea. Or he had the original thought

1418
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty seven exactly, he's long gone. Yeah, So

1419
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 1: so I still watch it, still enjoy watching it, you know,

1420
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 1: I enjoy watching the the expertise of and the the

1421
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: the examples and and and the the stuff, how how

1422
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: they play the game. You know, at the professional level,

1423
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's phenomenal. The athletes that are out there,

1424
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 1: the precision that they have to that it takes to

1425
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,479
Speaker 1: play the game, and and you know, to see people

1426
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: like Tom Brady who can just do it year after

1427
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 1: year after year without the system that he's in and

1428
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: the stuff that they allow him to do. Um, it's

1429
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 1: it's pretty amazing. He got back into the professional level

1430
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 1: of coaching this past winter with the Alliance of American

1431
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: Football Atlanta Legends. Right with the Legends. What happened we

1432
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 1: were Steve and I were last We're saying this is

1433
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: gonna take I can't wait. I'm gonna watch every Sunday,

1434
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch a game. We were so high on

1435
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: your league. Yeah, it's gonna be great. I thought, I

1436
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: really did. I thought, you know, there's such a market there. Um,

1437
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: you know some of the things they did obviously, you know,

1438
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: putting a team in Atlanta. Atlanta has never been a

1439
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 1: great sports town really to begin with. You know, if

1440
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: you're winning, they're they're okay with you. But you know,

1441
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: it's like, I think it would have been better suited

1442
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: to put it in you know, kind of smaller towns

1443
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 1: that this is the big deal and people get excited

1444
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 1: about Charles or something. Yeah, something like that, or Raleigh

1445
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 1: or you know, you know they got all the college

1446
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 1: teams in Raleigh, but even that, um, you know, some

1447
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 1: different places like that because they had you know, San

1448
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: Antonio had great crowds. Um, I think Memphis had some

1449
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 1: decent crowds. Orlando was okay, Birmingham, I guess Birmingham had

1450
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 1: decent crowds, but they had miserable weather almost every game

1451
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 1: or whatever. So but like San Diego didn't get rid

1452
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 1: of many, but nobody came to the Chargers games either,

1453
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 1: So you know, why would you expect people to all

1454
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: of a sudden show up where they all was pretty good.

1455
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 1: But no, I thought the football was very good. It

1456
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 1: just wasn't didn't have the financial backing that it needed,

1457
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 1: um to get through the first couple of years. Um, yeah,

1458
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 1: you gotta be ready to take loss with that for

1459
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: a couple of years, that's what you think. And that's

1460
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 1: kind of what they had said they were going to

1461
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 1: do and they you know, suppose they had the backing

1462
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 1: for it, and that dried up before the season even began.

1463
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: Shocked because we thought Napoleon's involved, this is gonna fly,

1464
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, And I think they had they had

1465
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 1: some things they were going to do extremely well. One

1466
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Speaker 1: of the things I noticed about the AF was on.

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01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 1: It was on every week at least one game. You

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01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 1: could find it and yeah, you go get it. But

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01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,439
Speaker 1: I never heard about it between the interim and don't

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01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 1: advertise it. Well the NFL, I mean you got espet

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01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: a whole network dedicated to well that's ESPN did not

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01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 1: ever mention the Alliance League once, right. They didn't give

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01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 1: any highlights, no coverage, no, you know, and they're kind

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01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 1: of you know, the worldwide leader the big big horrors

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01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: or whatever and the whole thing, and and you know,

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01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 1: you would you would think, but I guess you know,

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01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 1: they weren't either you weren't given enough kickbacks or they

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01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 1: weren't covering it. So they're not gonna not gonna put

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01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:40,560
Speaker 1: it on or not even talk about it. And so

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01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 1: I think that was a big factor in hurting it

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01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: that you know, you know, why not do it two

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01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 1: or three minute segment and put some highlights on and

1483
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:49,640
Speaker 1: hear this guy made this catch or you know, but

1484
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 1: they didn't do it at all. Nothing right, nothing. So

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01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 1: I think they're tied in with the XFL, which is

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01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 1: going to start again this next break, so maybe they

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01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 1: get some coverage and get enough exposure they can build

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01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 1: a market and keep the thing going. I think there's

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01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 1: a market for spring ball. I think there's a market

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01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 1: for the players. It was great for the players to

1491
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 1: have an opportunity. And I think we had sixty some

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01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: guys or whatever signed from the Alliance League into the

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01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 1: NFL at least in training camps. I don't know, you know,

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01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 1: who's going to come out of it, if if anybody

1495
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 1: took a full roster. Yeah, you know, but players, you know,

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01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 1: there's there's people who came out of the back in

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01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 1: the day, the the you know World League or the

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01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 1: you know, the European League and Kurt Warner and yeah,

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01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 1: all those guys. There's tons of players who came out

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01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 1: of that. And so it's there's a there's a there's

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01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 1: a need for it and a market for it, I believe.

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01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 1: So it's just finding the right people to be able

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01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 1: to get it done. Pete Metellar's former Bills tight end.

1504
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 1: You live down here twenty five years in Carolina is

1505
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 1: now Hu, that's unbelievable. I can't Yeah, sure, we think.

1506
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think I won the game Friday. We actually

1507
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 1: we got a scrimmage Friday. We got a scrimmage yet,

1508
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: so I will not be able to make it. And

1509
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 1: you're busy with how many grandchildren, five aldermen in this area. Yeah,

1510
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: they're all in this good Yeah, yeah, yeah, we have

1511
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 1: good for you. We get him out of the lake

1512
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 1: and go tubing and excellent, take him golfing and you're

1513
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 1: living the life. Yeah, yes, yeah, it's great to catch

1514
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 1: up with you, Pete. See thanks guys, reach you very much.

1515
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 1: Thanks man Tell Barbara said, hey, I will do that show.

1516
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: What's the deal? Yeah, she want to see me. He's

1517
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: actually on calls right now delivering baby. So all right,

1518
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 1: all right, she's a mid whaler. Yeah, she's a midwife. Yeah,

1519
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: all right, she's in there. Teller. He said, Hey, it

1520
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 1: ain't catch Pete Metellar's good. Did you catch up with him?

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01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 1: Steve and I coming back with more One Bill's Line

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01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: presented by Klaida Health from Spartanburg, South Carolina. This is

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01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back. We're coming to the line

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01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 1: from Spartanburg, South Carolina. The Spartanburg marryat right down the

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01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 1: road from Watford College. Bills wrapped up their Tuesday practice

1526
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,640
Speaker 1: with the Carolina Panthers. No injuries to report that we

1527
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 1: know of. We stayed for most of the practice. We

1528
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 1: don't need this right here. No um, no fights. People

1529
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 1: are worried about that. Um. Good practice. So we're just

1530
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 1: talking to a an observer at practice today. You know,

1531
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:03,560
Speaker 1: you like to bounce ideas off each other. And he

1532
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 1: agrees with me. Jimmy Acton. Jimmy Acton told me he

1533
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: agrees with me. The offense looked good today, Steve and

1534
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 1: a lot of it was. They're up against they're not

1535
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 1: up against the Buffalo defense. Yeah, I got some of it.

1536
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna say anything that bad about

1537
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 1: the Carolina defense. I think those guys are pretty salty

1538
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: too that they're in a three four defense. And for

1539
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 1: some reason it seemed to, you know, be that the

1540
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 1: Bills played better against it. Look, they looked good. They

1541
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 1: looked really good. That's it. They don't do that against

1542
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 1: our defense. No, they didn't make it. They made more

1543
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 1: impact than not huge plays, not sixty five yard pass plays,

1544
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 1: but they made more like red zone plays touchdowns today

1545
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 1: that I've seen in most training camp practices. For the

1546
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 1: first two week nine on seven, I saw too that

1547
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 1: the running backs were running two or three yards down

1548
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: the field, you know, and free freeing clear. I mean

1549
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 1: they were there. You know, there was big gaps there

1550
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 1: for the running backs to run through, and I was

1551
01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 1: that was you know, you just don't see it that much.

1552
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 1: We'll talk with Chris brown of two and Well. I

1553
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 1: want to bring this up with Brownie because I watched

1554
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 1: some of the practice side by side with him and

1555
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: we were both watching an offensive line and he was right.

1556
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 1: Chris said, Bobby Johnson's on full throttle today. You know,

1557
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 1: the Bill's offensive line coach. He was on today. He

1558
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 1: was loud and in people's faces, and I think that

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01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 1: probably had something to do with how well the offense played.

1560
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,640
Speaker 1: The offensive one he I was down there in the

1561
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 1: corner where where you were signing out the other corner,

1562
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 1: down the other the old line corner, Bobby Johnson. They

1563
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 1: were just going through rips where guys were just kind

1564
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 1: of taken off and they were kind of pushing a

1565
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 1: guy with a with a blocking dummy and pushing him

1566
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 1: back a few steps, back, a few steps, and every

1567
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 1: so often he would just dog cuss somebody for not

1568
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 1: doing it. I saw him stop it. He said, no, no, no, hey,

1569
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 1: that's two times you've messed it up. Yeah, and he

1570
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 1: had some kind of funny comment about Tuesday something day

1571
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 1: or something. I couldn't quite pick it up, but yeah,

1572
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 1: you hear that Tuesday, no pad day. Yeah, that means

1573
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 1: the pat they weren't holding blocking, that's right. Yeah, yeah,

1574
01:12:57,240 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: and yeah, and then it made a different to him,

1575
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 1: like you know what it is, it's Tuesday. This is

1576
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,640
Speaker 1: what we do on Tuesday. That's right, and he he're right,

1577
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 1: he'd turned it up. And I don't spend that much

1578
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 1: time with the offensive line. But listen at particularly now.

1579
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 1: But man, oh man, he was in Fuego. Probably made

1580
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 1: a difference. Our Twitter poll today and we want your

1581
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 1: input on this. We got six hundred votes in on

1582
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 1: the Twitter poll. What's the best thing the Bills can

1583
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 1: get out of this practice? Two practices with the Panthers

1584
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 1: this week? What do you think? Forty forty four percent

1585
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 1: of you say a competitive uptick practice. And I think

1586
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 1: we saw that today right, it was the volume was

1587
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 1: turned up a little bit today. Forty three percent of

1588
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,799
Speaker 1: you say another and a good measuring stick for Josh Allen.

1589
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 1: Nine percent say it gives the Bills a look at

1590
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 1: a three four defense. Four percent have something else in mine.

1591
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 1: Let's hear f him. You give us a call, you

1592
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 1: can send it a tweet. We can read it on

1593
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet at one Bills Live. You can vote

1594
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,600
Speaker 1: in the Twitter poll as I said, six hundred and

1595
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 1: thirteen votes now, or we can get you on the

1596
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 1: air on the telephone lines eight o three oh five

1597
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 1: fifty toll free outside Buffalo one eight eight eight five

1598
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. What is the biggest thing the

1599
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 1: Bills have to gain in this these practices. One more

1600
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: to come tomorrow against the Carolina Panthers. Ninety two degrees

1601
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 1: out here. Steve clouding Up, I just checked the weather.

1602
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a thunderstorm coming by at five. Yeah.

1603
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 1: I almost can't wait. Maybe it'll cool No, seriously, maybe

1604
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: it a cool off a little bit. We have a

1605
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 1: are we doing? Can we mention the thing we're doing tonight?

1606
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 1: What are we doing? Yeah? Go ahead, Yeah, we're gonna

1607
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 1: I don't know where we're going, but we're having a

1608
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 1: Bills but One Bills Live event east side Tavern in Greenville, Greenville,

1609
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 1: which is right down the road. That's about thirty minute drive.

1610
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna head over this. It's not just gonna mute me.

1611
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 1: I mean it was there, like a whole contingent of

1612
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: bills people showing up right now. I didn't see him,

1613
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:37,600
Speaker 1: but I told her some of the people from the

1614
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 1: tavern were at practice to them. Oh yeah, they were

1615
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 1: talking to me about being there. We're like, yeah, we'll

1616
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 1: see you to night. It's gonna be great. I was like, okay, awesome,

1617
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,839
Speaker 1: I gotta go. Yeah, I might need a nap before that. Oh,

1618
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 1: that's a mandatory I get two more showers and then

1619
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 1: and then and a nap between them, wrap yourself in

1620
01:14:56,240 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: swaddling clothes, yes, and turn the air conditioner onto refrigera last,

1621
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 1: and then get a little get a little snooze. He's

1622
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 1: side Tavern and Bill's Backers, Bar, side Bar and grill

1623
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 1: and South Carolina right down the road. We're gonna be

1624
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 1: there tonight with one Bill's Live crew and and uh

1625
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 1: and a lot of fans. Fun, a lot of fun.

1626
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 1: And they were talking it up. Man, they love the fans,

1627
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:19,599
Speaker 1: the Bills. Fans love the east Side Bar and Grill.

1628
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to perform tonight. What do you mean whatever,

1629
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 1: whatever you want to do, sing karaoke, live band or

1630
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 1: karaoke there. I've seen this. I know you can do that.

1631
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 1: They're gonna be counting on you, not me. You counting

1632
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:33,679
Speaker 1: on me to put this place. Looks like it doesn't matter.

1633
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 1: They're coming there to see you. It'll be fun. It's

1634
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 1: gonna be nice. And because you get the feeling too.

1635
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 1: When I was at that we were interacting with fans

1636
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 1: today at that one end of the field, there was

1637
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 1: just a ton of them, a lot of young kids

1638
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 1: who are Bills fans down here. You know, they've been

1639
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: growing up because their mom and dads are from Buffalo,

1640
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 1: the whole nine. You know the story, and and they

1641
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 1: you get to feel like, man, they're just they've just

1642
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 1: long for this kind of interaction with the team. They

1643
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 1: just never get to do it. And you know, once

1644
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 1: every three years or so over their team here in

1645
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,680
Speaker 1: Carolina plays up there. But they just you can just

1646
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,640
Speaker 1: tell the people here in South Carolina and probably in

1647
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 1: Charlotte as well, you know, they miss having the ability

1648
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 1: like fans in Buffalo, and maybe unlike most NFL stadiums

1649
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:18,639
Speaker 1: or NFL teams. Man, they come out to the state,

1650
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 1: they they know guys, they see the players run around

1651
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 1: the town. You know, Buffalo is not that big, and

1652
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 1: they you know, they call players by their first name,

1653
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 1: and down here it's you know, it's so far away.

1654
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:33,679
Speaker 1: It's you can tell they're really soaking it up having

1655
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 1: the Bills down here and it's kind of connection to

1656
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 1: their home. Yeah, it's cool. Josh Allen, we said, I

1657
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 1: think he had a pretty good day today. I've been

1658
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 1: in what Chris Brown has to say when he joins

1659
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 1: us at too. But after practice today Josh Allen met

1660
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 1: with the media down here and talked about his day

1661
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 1: and what the Bills got accomplished today in their first

1662
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 1: joint practice with the Carolina Panthers. Let's listen in good

1663
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 1: How do you feel like you guys did out there?

1664
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 1: You know, I thought we did a good job today.

1665
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:04,640
Speaker 1: Um niceley different environment playing and um, different weather, a

1666
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 1: gains a different team. So I think we just pretty well.

1667
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 1: I think our juice was there. Um being able to

1668
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 1: see somebody different across the ball from us, I think

1669
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 1: we kind of needed that. So, UM, super you know,

1670
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 1: impressed with how we handled things today. We were very

1671
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 1: mature professional football team today, And UM, I really appreciate

1672
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 1: the guys doing that already, got to do your own offense.

1673
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 1: How how beneficial was it for you to go against

1674
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 1: that different front for Carolina, you know, kind of something

1675
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,640
Speaker 1: different to look at. You know, No, it's awesome. And they,

1676
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 1: like I said, they do a couple of different things,

1677
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 1: especially they're you know, they're front four, um, and just

1678
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 1: they just line up a little differently, so it changes protections.

1679
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 1: We got to be right on those, and UM, I

1680
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 1: thought today we did a good job. John did a

1681
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 1: job snapping the ball and making his checks and his reads. So, um,

1682
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 1: you know some things I learned from on tape, but

1683
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 1: we'll see that today shuffling through the mixing and match

1684
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 1: and going up front because I know sometimes Spencer Chixon

1685
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 1: there for you, Um, how are you kind of working

1686
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 1: one guy to the other, kind of sing point whatever.

1687
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 1: I mean, the only thing that I gotta do is

1688
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:07,640
Speaker 1: they're they're centers are different when you're under center, just

1689
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 1: how they delivered the ball. So just making sure we're

1690
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 1: taking reps before and after practice there. But you know,

1691
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who's who's out there. Um, they're all

1692
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 1: doing their job. They're all communicating very well. Um. Like

1693
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:19,639
Speaker 1: I said, they're got a lot of professionals on the team.

1694
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 1: Luke Keeley is sort of famously known for his preparation.

1695
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 1: I don't know that if you would notice or see

1696
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 1: that in a in a practice setting, but but just

1697
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 1: your observations about yeah, well, I mean obviously people fear him.

1698
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 1: Is one of the smartest guys they've been around, football wise,

1699
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 1: and I can attest to that. You know, I spent

1700
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 1: some time with Luke before in the past. Um, just

1701
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 1: being able to hear him talk about football. I got

1702
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 1: a chance to talk to him about a certain play

1703
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 1: after after practice here and just the insight that he

1704
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 1: has and all is that he has is pretty awesome. Um.

1705
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 1: You know, at the end of the day, we don't

1706
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 1: really have each other on our schedule, so we're trying

1707
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: to make each other better at the same time. Yeah, yeah,

1708
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 1: you ask him about it. You wanted a or he

1709
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:00,680
Speaker 1: asked you. Um, I just kind of went up to

1710
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 1: him and he said, that's a good concept, and we

1711
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 1: just kind of talked about the you know, the hardships

1712
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 1: for a defense on a certain play and what, Um,

1713
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: you know, what can make that play not so great.

1714
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 1: So what you were doing, not what what they showed

1715
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 1: I mean on defense. Yeah, just just why he did

1716
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 1: what he did in the certain concept that we ran. Um,

1717
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 1: he's obviously obviously asking what are what we're looking at,

1718
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 1: what our read is. So I just took a couple

1719
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 1: couple words here there, and UM, like I said, we're

1720
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 1: trying to make each other better. Right now before yesterday,

1721
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 1: come out with the value of defense. You guys have

1722
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 1: no reasons soon we have to play each other to

1723
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 1: the Really is any reason for people get comfortable making

1724
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 1: an effort to make people better? Correct? That that guy,

1725
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 1: Like I said, Um, we don't see each other on

1726
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:51,600
Speaker 1: our schedule this year, and you know unless we you know,

1727
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 1: both end meet up at the end. Um. But yeah,

1728
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 1: we get to get to go against a really good

1729
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 1: defense and our defense gets to go against a really

1730
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 1: good offense. So um. At the same time, we're just

1731
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 1: out here trying to make some plays, trying to see

1732
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 1: some different looks, some different faces, and uh, you know,

1733
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 1: still play the game of football. So kind of favoring

1734
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 1: James right at the very side of the field. Is

1735
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:16,720
Speaker 1: there anything saw? No, not necessarily, Um, just kind of

1736
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 1: the route concepts that we had, you know, when they're

1737
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 1: playing their zone, and um, just knowing that there's some

1738
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 1: openings underneath there. That's that's all. It really was. How

1739
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 1: much time did you get to spend with Cam? What

1740
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 1: could you have learned from him? And what do you

1741
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 1: think of them? I actually didn't get to spend any

1742
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 1: time with him today we're on different fields. So UM.

1743
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 1: I got talked to Kyle a little bit after I

1744
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 1: didn't get to see Cam, But um, you know, he's

1745
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 1: a big, mobile, strong arm quarterback that puts the ball

1746
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 1: where he wants to put the ball, So um, I'm

1747
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:45,560
Speaker 1: not mad at the comparisons at all. You know, I

1748
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:47,680
Speaker 1: think he's been playing this game at a high level

1749
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 1: for a very long time. There. Do you feel like you, guys,

1750
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 1: you know, you and your receiving targets are getting to

1751
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 1: that maybe refinement stage you know whose stalls pretty much? Yeah,

1752
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 1: care of it. Did you guys feel like you're shame

1753
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 1: at this point? For sure? I definitely think that there's

1754
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 1: not a lot of stuff going in, you know, stuff

1755
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 1: that we've wrapped before over and over again. And now it's,

1756
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 1: like I said, just seeing different looks and being able

1757
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:10,680
Speaker 1: to adjust accordingly and make place. It seemed like there

1758
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:12,840
Speaker 1: was a little more Jews before practice. Did you sense

1759
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 1: that guys were a little more maybe up for this

1760
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:18,560
Speaker 1: as compared to Oh yeah, there's a huge competitive advantage

1761
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 1: for this, you know, getting to play different people. You know,

1762
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 1: we're not going against our teammates, not worrying about you

1763
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 1: know what we see every single day in practice in

1764
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 1: training camp, so um, you know, we really don't prepare

1765
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 1: for the joint practice that much. And we go out

1766
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:33,560
Speaker 1: and we get to see different looks, we get to

1767
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 1: learn from them, um, and it's just football. I love it. Yes,

1768
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 1: your take on their front set and you mentioned the

1769
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 1: front four. Yeah, Now they got some dudes up front. Um,

1770
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 1: they know to play again football. They're very smart and

1771
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 1: obviously Luke kind of commands that defense really well, just

1772
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 1: making sure that they're all situated on what their assignments are. Um.

1773
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 1: And like I said, they got some dudes up front

1774
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 1: that I'll go get after the ball. Did you study

1775
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 1: him coming into the league? Um? Not really. I mean

1776
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 1: I've seen some good things. Um, obviously every time I

1777
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 1: watched football, I get see some things. But um, you know,

1778
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 1: just to get kind of kind of how we processed

1779
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 1: the processes of the game, how he kind of went

1780
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:13,680
Speaker 1: from a mobile quarterback to more of a quarterback that

1781
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 1: all run when necessary. Obviously I'm still going through that

1782
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 1: transition too, so I can take um a lot of

1783
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 1: lessons from his early career as well. Just seeing all

1784
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 1: the fans more here in Carolina, South Carolina, what does

1785
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 1: that say to you? It's unbelievable. You know, we got

1786
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 1: the best fans in the world, and um, we think

1787
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 1: very highly of them and we appreciate them coming out here.

1788
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 1: So um, we love and appreciate the sport from those

1789
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 1: mafia they go Josh Hallen meeting with the media an

1790
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 1: hour so we go here in Spartanburg, South Carolina. A

1791
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 1: couple of interesting things, he said, seeven want let me

1792
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 1: start from the back first, um, And so he's on

1793
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 1: the field, Cam Newton's on the field. Josh said he

1794
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 1: hadn't had a chance to talk to him yet. There

1795
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 1: have been parallels drawn between those two, and can I say,

1796
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 1: I don't see it. They're both big guys. Cam is huge,

1797
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 1: by the way, They're both big guys. Other than that,

1798
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:03,599
Speaker 1: I don't see it. I think Josh has better arm

1799
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 1: talent than Cam Newton ever had. And I think, you know,

1800
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 1: I think we've seen Cam Newton's had a night's career

1801
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 1: so far, and he's got more to come, I'm sure,

1802
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 1: but I think we've seen his top side. You know,

1803
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 1: he's ceiling and I don't even think we're approaching anywhere

1804
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 1: near what Josh Allen can bring the team. I don't

1805
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 1: see the connection white people would compare those two other

1806
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 1: than the fact that they're both really tall. One of

1807
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 1: the big, strong, tall athletes with strong arms. Now, Cam Newton, listen,

1808
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to be a little Cam

1809
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 1: new was MVP. MH. I mean, he's he's got a

1810
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 1: rocket arm. Now he's not getting shoulder his shoulder. He's

1811
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 1: coming back off a major shoulder surgery just this last

1812
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 1: you know, December January. So he's you know, he's got

1813
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 1: a ways to go, probably before he feels normal when

1814
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 1: he throws it. But Cam Newtons a heck of a

1815
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 1: football player. Yeah, And I'd say Josh Allen still has

1816
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 1: to prove he's a heck of a football player. I agree.

1817
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:58,560
Speaker 1: We've seen flashes of that, no question about it. And

1818
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:01,560
Speaker 1: raw talent wise, I think Josh being twenty two and

1819
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 1: Cam being the age he is after being in the

1820
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 1: league and taking a pounding like he has, he's a

1821
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 1: different guy than he was when he came out. But

1822
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 1: I think I see the comparisons, and in fact, I've

1823
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 1: made him myself. I think when they both entered the league,

1824
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 1: they were much more similar than they are now. That's

1825
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 1: for sure. Cam Newton is a veteran quarterback who's had

1826
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 1: a playoff run, who's gotten to the Super Bowl and

1827
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 1: was an MVP in the league. Josh Allen is a

1828
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 1: guy who still trying to you know, win games in

1829
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 1: his second year. He's you know, he's trying to get

1830
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 1: to the point where he's considered a quality starting quarterback

1831
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 1: because there's still people out there who don't think he

1832
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:42,799
Speaker 1: is so. But when he came into the league, Cam Newton,

1833
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 1: he was the number one overall pick. But Josh Allen's

1834
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 1: kind of got that same skill set. But because Josh

1835
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 1: Allen didn't play at Auburn, wasn't in the voting or

1836
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 1: running for the Heisman, didn't have that kind of accolades

1837
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 1: coming out. I think there was some things about Josh that,

1838
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 1: you know, you can say whatever you want about a

1839
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:05,760
Speaker 1: kid from Wyoming, he's got to prove you wrong. Uh,

1840
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 1: you don't say that about stuff about guys coming out

1841
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:11,639
Speaker 1: of Auburn like Cam Newton did because you see him

1842
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 1: on TV every week. Right. Let me be clear, I'm

1843
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 1: not saying Josh Allen is better than Cam Newton. I'm

1844
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:23,599
Speaker 1: saying I like Josh's upside, his potential ceiling, better than

1845
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 1: where Cam Newton's going from here. I think we are

1846
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 1: at a pinnacle for Cam Newton. Yeah, that's the thing.

1847
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 1: Cam Newton's camp, He's like, get damaged goods now a

1848
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 1: little bit, I mean a little bit, you know, he's

1849
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 1: got that shoulder surgery, he's he's got a Super Bowl loss. Um,

1850
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 1: he's still a dynamic player. I've covered this team last

1851
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 1: year and Cam Newton is still the guy that makes

1852
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:48,719
Speaker 1: this organization go. He's the most he's the most dynamic

1853
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 1: athlete on the field when he's out there. So don't

1854
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 1: get me wrong about it. He battled through a tough

1855
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 1: year last year with his shoulder. Josh Allen could get

1856
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 1: there to Cam Newton, no question about an. And I

1857
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 1: get where you're saying that Josh Allen might be one

1858
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,680
Speaker 1: of those guys who turns into a maybe a better

1859
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 1: pure passer than Cam, a guy who stands in the

1860
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 1: in the pocket, reads a defense. But he's still got

1861
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 1: to do that. I mean, we've you know, you're right.

1862
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:16,639
Speaker 1: We think we've seen the top end of Cam Newton,

1863
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 1: and we don't know what Josh Allen's top end could

1864
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 1: possibly be yet, but it's pretty it seems to be

1865
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 1: pretty pretty big. One other thing from all two other

1866
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 1: things from Josh Allen's news conference. One he mentioned and

1867
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 1: I guess I doubt I was downplaying this until I

1868
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 1: heard Josh said, and I think we heard somebody tell

1869
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 1: us last week about the Bills will benefit here from

1870
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 1: being in different weather. It's different. I mean, it's just hot,

1871
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 1: muggy and oppressively hot, and there's got to be a

1872
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:42,680
Speaker 1: benefit to that. Mc durmot talked about that the other day.

1873
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 1: But not once, but twice I heard Josh talk about

1874
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 1: how his team, the Bills, are mature. He said, we

1875
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:51,719
Speaker 1: are a mature and professional team. What was he talking about?

1876
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 1: No fights? Is that what he's doing? Well, I'll tell

1877
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 1: you what he's talking about. Guys that even the guys

1878
01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 1: you pick up during training camp like Kurt Coleman, and

1879
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 1: we just had Captain Munderlin on quality guys, Sam Acho,

1880
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 1: it's a quality guy. This the DNA of these guys

1881
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 1: like Pat DeMarco, just a phenomenal human being. And you've

1882
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 1: got those guys all up and down, Lorenzo Alexander our friend,

1883
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 1: and the guy that's in't here all the time. We

1884
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:17,600
Speaker 1: know what kind of quality human being he is. You know,

1885
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 1: you've got these guys on this team, you know Tremaine Edmonds. Yeah,

1886
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 1: you've got guy after guy after guy at every position

1887
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:30,679
Speaker 1: group And I know this too, Mitch Morris, Spencer Long,

1888
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 1: all those guys are cut from the same cloth. You've

1889
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 1: got quality guys at every position group on both sides

1890
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:40,639
Speaker 1: of the football that put their head down and work

1891
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:45,759
Speaker 1: hard at being really good. They don't complain, they don't slack,

1892
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 1: they don't look for ways out of drills. They don't,

1893
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 1: you know, ask for days off. They don't take days off.

1894
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 1: And when you show up to a place like that

1895
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:59,640
Speaker 1: and you don't have any of those guys and you

1896
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,600
Speaker 1: don't or any of that in your locker room, you

1897
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 1: do notice it because you can bet other guys on

1898
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 1: other team. There's there's a guy, oh, very yapping about

1899
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 1: how whatever about you know he doesn't have the right

1900
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 1: T shirt on, or he doesn't you know, he wasn't ready.

1901
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 1: We don't want to I don't want to wear this

1902
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 1: hell right, you know you start chiming. It's like it's

1903
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:22,759
Speaker 1: just there's just none of that vibe on this team.

1904
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 1: And even a young guy who's only been in the

1905
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 1: league for one season, like Josh Allen, consents that it's

1906
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 1: different than that, than different than it is in other places.

1907
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 1: And maybe he's seen stuff on the other team that

1908
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 1: highlights it. I don't know. I couldn't speak to that,

1909
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 1: but you know that's always that possible. He's coming all right,

1910
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 1: We're coming back with more. Steve Tasker, John Murphy. We're

1911
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:45,679
Speaker 1: in Spartanburg, South Carolina. The Bills wrapped up their practice

1912
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 1: a couple of hours ago with the Carolina Panthers. Got

1913
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 1: another one tomorrow. We'll talk more about Dad as the

1914
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 1: afternoon rolls along. One Bills I presented by Callada Health

1915
01:28:53,520 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 1: from South Carolina. It's is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back.

1916
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 1: We are live in Spartanburg, South Carolina, where it's ninety

1917
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 1: two degrees. John Murphy and Steve Tasker one Bills Live.

1918
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 1: We're gonna do it again tomorrow. Then we moved the

1919
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 1: operation up to Charlotte, North Carolina for Thursday and Friday.

1920
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 1: Friday night at seven o'clock preseason game number two the

1921
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 1: Bills and the Carolina Panthers. Carolina opened their preseason last

1922
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 1: Friday with the game in Chicago against the Bears. They

1923
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 1: lost that one, right, I have to I know, I

1924
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 1: have to hear. That's the one where Ron Rivera. Oh,

1925
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 1: they won twenty three thirteen by the time out. So

1926
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 1: one one of the Panthers. You will see Friday, And

1927
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 1: if you watch last week, you saw him is a

1928
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 1: familiar name for Western New York basketball fans, college basketball fans.

1929
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:48,760
Speaker 1: Chris man Hurts played at Kenisius College, played basketball, never

1930
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 1: touched the football. Um he got in with the Bills.

1931
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 1: The Bills brought him in and had him on their

1932
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 1: roster for a little while, and now he's a Carolina

1933
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 1: Panther our man. Chris Brown had a chance to talk

1934
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 1: with Chris man Hurts after today's Here's how it went.

1935
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 1: Chris Brown here with Carolina Panthers tight and Chris Manhertz

1936
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:08,720
Speaker 1: and uh, Chris, You've carved out a heck of a

1937
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 1: career for yourself. I mean, how do you feel kind

1938
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 1: of seeing where you've taken this opportunity that you know

1939
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:17,519
Speaker 1: started in Buffalo as you tried to transfer to the

1940
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:19,599
Speaker 1: football game. I mean, how do you feel you've done

1941
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 1: in terms of maximizing the opportunity. I think it's definitely

1942
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 1: a blessing, you know, starting with the Buffalo Bills. You

1943
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 1: guys gave me my first opportunity and I'm forever grateful

1944
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 1: for that and every coach and organization that has had

1945
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 1: a hand in this along the way. It's just it's

1946
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 1: just really humbling and playing you guys and practicing against

1947
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 1: the Bills, it just comes back full circle. So it's

1948
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:42,720
Speaker 1: pretty good. And then just with respect to your role here, Yeah,

1949
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:45,840
Speaker 1: so you make a play a red zone today? Is

1950
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 1: this game at the point where it just comes naturally

1951
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 1: to you? Now? Do you think you've mastered the finer

1952
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 1: points and the nuances? I would never say mastered because

1953
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:56,280
Speaker 1: it's it's always a work in progress. But looking from

1954
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:59,200
Speaker 1: where I started to where I am now, a tremendous

1955
01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:02,200
Speaker 1: amount of growth. Things is definitely slowed down for me.

1956
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 1: Do you sense that there is another step that you

1957
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 1: want to take? This is like what would you put

1958
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:10,559
Speaker 1: on your to do list? You know, with as far

1959
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 1: as you have come, what's still on the to do list?

1960
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 1: For Chris Manners absolutely just just being more of a

1961
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 1: contributor to this team whatever way I can, whether it

1962
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 1: be on special teams, on offense in the past game

1963
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 1: and the run game, just being more of what it

1964
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 1: was before. So that's all I could ask for. And

1965
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 1: how have you guys worked through this offseason with Cam

1966
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 1: knowing some of the limitations that he had, You're trying

1967
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 1: to get in sync on offense and I know he's

1968
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 1: pretty much there now. But how did you guys make

1969
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 1: your way through this offseason with the limitations that he had,

1970
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:39,800
Speaker 1: knowing you guys had work to get done. I mean,

1971
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:41,800
Speaker 1: Cam is always in tune with everything, and he does

1972
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 1: a tremendous ant amount of work on his body, and

1973
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:47,640
Speaker 1: he's he's he's bought into what the training staff is

1974
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:50,559
Speaker 1: set forth for him. So I'm just glad that it's

1975
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:53,400
Speaker 1: it's finally you know, picking up for him and the

1976
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:55,640
Speaker 1: trajectory on where it's going. We should be good for

1977
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 1: the season. And then just with respect to Buffalo, is

1978
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 1: there ever an opportunity for you to get back or

1979
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:02,120
Speaker 1: do you ever look to get back in the offseason?

1980
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 1: And of course, of course I'm trying to get back

1981
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:06,760
Speaker 1: next summer. Buffalo is always my second home, you know,

1982
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 1: That's where a lot of my networks are and obviously

1983
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 1: Cannecious and everybody there, so I always have love for Buffalo.

1984
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 1: All right, Well, good luck this season, good luck making

1985
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 1: it a big one. Thank you? All right, that's Chris

1986
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:19,439
Speaker 1: man Hurts here on one Bills Live, Murph and Steve

1987
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:22,479
Speaker 1: will send it back to you, all right, Chris Brown,

1988
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:24,920
Speaker 1: thanks very much. Chris Brown at the practice, the truck's

1989
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 1: going to be with us here on the set in

1990
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes, and we'll talk a little bit

1991
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:30,120
Speaker 1: about Chris man Hurts. I watched Chris man Hurts play

1992
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 1: basketball and I've seen him. He comes to Griffs games

1993
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 1: a couple times a year. You see Steve. Yeah, good guy.

1994
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 1: You guys have connections there. Yeah, he's not a friend.

1995
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 1: He's making a hard transition. We've talked about other players

1996
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:41,160
Speaker 1: trying to do it. Christian Wade's trying to do it

1997
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:43,799
Speaker 1: from rugby. Other guys have done it from Australian rules football.

1998
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:47,560
Speaker 1: It's it's a long road, but he's got the It

1999
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:50,559
Speaker 1: says something possibility. He's still hanging in there. Yep, all right,

2000
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:52,439
Speaker 1: two hours down, one hour ago on the show. We're

2001
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:54,719
Speaker 1: coming back with more Chris Brown Bills Inside or Buffalo

2002
01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:56,599
Speaker 1: Bills dot Com was gonna be with us when we return.

2003
01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 1: Come on back. One Bill's Live presented by Colt of

2004
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 1: Health from Spartan Burd, South Carolina, and this is Buffalo

2005
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:13,560
Speaker 1: Bill Radio. I feel better now, though I felt lousing you.

2006
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:15,960
Speaker 1: I was a little bit murph. It was hit and miss.

2007
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 1: Whether the Murphers started to show failed early at practice. Listen,

2008
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 1: we had to standing next to him for forty minutes.

2009
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 1: All of a sudden he was gone. I didn't know

2010
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:24,680
Speaker 1: where he was. We was like a vanishing an. We

2011
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 1: had a goodbye and was you were vanished. We had

2012
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:33,360
Speaker 1: a hard half day yesterday of of travel trap and

2013
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 1: it was a hard drive coming in four and a

2014
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 1: half hours of sleep late at night on a strange

2015
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:40,240
Speaker 1: four lane you know, three way highway and it was

2016
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:45,040
Speaker 1: right Orange Cones for like fifty miles. You didn't even drive,

2017
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 1: Steve and listen, I'm not sing out in the back.

2018
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:52,919
Speaker 1: And then bred up this morning early we had breakfast

2019
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:55,920
Speaker 1: with the team and it was like we couldn't. Everything

2020
01:33:56,000 --> 01:34:00,240
Speaker 1: was correct fast with the team. It's tough. It's tough. Rough.

2021
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 1: My someone asked if he wanted if he should call

2022
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 1: you an ambulance. I'm just saying. I'm just saying Murph

2023
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 1: was hit and missus. Whether he's going to start to

2024
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 1: show he's the other, well, at least it's not both

2025
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:15,000
Speaker 1: of you. Dan, I am. I have taken it out

2026
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 1: of gear because we got Chris Brown with US bills

2027
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:19,880
Speaker 1: inside the Chris Brown from Buffalo Bills dot com dot com.

2028
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 1: You look like a man who traveled on the charter,

2029
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:23,760
Speaker 1: got here in an hour and a half and got

2030
01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:25,760
Speaker 1: a good night's sleep last night. That would be me

2031
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:29,679
Speaker 1: and Propuls get the proper nutrition as well. I enjoyed

2032
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:33,360
Speaker 1: your sports update and your your voice inflection and pregnant

2033
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:36,760
Speaker 1: pause when you said Texans head coach Bill O'Brien has

2034
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:44,160
Speaker 1: no clue. There's a lot of interesting news in there.

2035
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:48,880
Speaker 1: That's not good. That's not good. I gotta ask you, though,

2036
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:52,640
Speaker 1: Today we go out there and limited viewing. For me,

2037
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:57,439
Speaker 1: I was doing stuff and but what I did see, Yeah,

2038
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 1: what I did see though, I was like, Wow, the

2039
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 1: Bills look pretty good. Yeah. I liked the uh the

2040
01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:07,720
Speaker 1: seven on seven red zone period for the offense the best.

2041
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 1: And granted that's a drill that slanted towards offensive success.

2042
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:15,960
Speaker 1: You know, no pass rush, you're just working on route concepts.

2043
01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:21,760
Speaker 1: But the chemistry between Josh and Matt Barkley for that matter,

2044
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:25,760
Speaker 1: and the receivers was encouraging. And it was my lead

2045
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 1: note for the top three things to know. It's on

2046
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:30,559
Speaker 1: Buffalo bills dot com now and I kind of walked

2047
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:32,560
Speaker 1: them through some of the highlights of what went on.

2048
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 1: But did you say the chemistry between the quarterbacks and

2049
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 1: the top receivers, well, the receivers that are running with

2050
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 1: those first two groups. Because cam Phillips made the catch

2051
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 1: of yeah today, that was that was the third to

2052
01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 1: last play made. That leaping grab. Now that was probably

2053
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 1: the prettiest throw yeah as well because Barkley put it

2054
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:55,720
Speaker 1: in an area where only cam Phillips could get it.

2055
01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 1: But cam Phillips had to use every ounce of athleticism

2056
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:02,200
Speaker 1: to make the play and both players did their job.

2057
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:04,759
Speaker 1: And I mean the crowd, I mean they were erupted

2058
01:36:05,320 --> 01:36:07,720
Speaker 1: after that play because it was right in front of

2059
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 1: all the Bills fans there behind the fence in that

2060
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:14,599
Speaker 1: end zone. So that worked out really well. Duke Williams

2061
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 1: made a play or two today. Isaiah McKenzie, for the

2062
01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:23,559
Speaker 1: third straight day is turning in plays. I think he's

2063
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:25,760
Speaker 1: taken what he did in the preseason game and he

2064
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:28,400
Speaker 1: has built on that every single day on the practice

2065
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:30,360
Speaker 1: field after that. He made a couple of plays on

2066
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 1: Friday in the scaled back practice. The day after the game.

2067
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 1: He had a very good practice on Sunday, and then

2068
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 1: here we are in the joint practices today and that

2069
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 1: last eleven on eleven period he makes three receptions including

2070
01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 1: a pass. He catches a pass in the end zone

2071
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:49,559
Speaker 1: and it is a bullet over the middle from Matt Barkley.

2072
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:52,120
Speaker 1: You don't even hear it hit his hands. I didn't realize.

2073
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:54,280
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not a big guy, Steve, he does

2074
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 1: not have big hands. It's hard for a smaller guy

2075
01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:59,679
Speaker 1: to have soft hands, isn't it. I mean, you gotta

2076
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:02,760
Speaker 1: kind it's hard. It's hard to wrap the ball when

2077
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 1: you have smaller hands. You kind of have this tendency

2078
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:06,880
Speaker 1: to want to squeeze it to make sure you don't

2079
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 1: lose it, where guys with big hands just kind of

2080
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 1: let it hit him into mits. And I was talking

2081
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:13,519
Speaker 1: to Isaiah about that after practice and he said, no,

2082
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:16,200
Speaker 1: it's something that I've really worked on to try not

2083
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:18,680
Speaker 1: to grip it so tight when it's coming in. Just

2084
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 1: kind of let it come into me and pull it

2085
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:23,080
Speaker 1: in that way, and he goes. I feel like my

2086
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:26,360
Speaker 1: hands are taking some of those rocket passes a little

2087
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 1: bit better than they did last year. And we were

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Speaker 1: just talking about the snap counts the wide receivers during

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Speaker 1: the preseason game, the first preseason game, and I don't

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Speaker 1: know how much you read into it, but you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously John Brown took most of them. Cole Beasley was

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Speaker 1: in for a lot of them, then the third. Then

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Speaker 1: it gets kind of interesting after that. Andre Roberts was

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01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:45,360
Speaker 1: the third, had the third most reps with job. I'm

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01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:48,200
Speaker 1: talking about the guys who played with Josh Allen. John

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01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:51,439
Speaker 1: Brown seventeen of the eighteen snaps, Josh Allen played, Cole

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Speaker 1: Beasley thirteen of those snaps. Andre Roberts had eleven of

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Speaker 1: those snaps, and then Zay Jones and Isai McKinney had

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Speaker 1: dropped McKenzie and it drops off right. McK he got

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Speaker 1: most of his work in the second half of that game.

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Speaker 1: Foster got a little work in the second half. This

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Speaker 1: is what I think. I think they know what Foster

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01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 1: is and they don't need to see more of him.

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01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 1: They need to see more of Roberts. They need Brown

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01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 1: and Beasley to get reps with Josh Allen and everybody

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01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:20,120
Speaker 1: else is kind of a mixed bag. I think they're

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01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 1: pretty confident in what Zay Jones can do as well.

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Speaker 1: The reason I and that was reinforced to me at

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Speaker 1: the press conference after Thursday night's game. Somebody was asking

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Speaker 1: about Robert Foster and whether or not he has to

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Speaker 1: pick it up. Who's not doing enough? How much more

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Speaker 1: does he have to do? And Sean McDermott's answer convinced

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Speaker 1: me that Robert Foster is fine, safe and is going

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Speaker 1: to be on the right He said, we know what

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Speaker 1: Robert Foster is capable of. We know he can make

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Speaker 1: those plays. So it seems like there is a very

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01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:54,759
Speaker 1: comfortable feeling about what Robert Foster brings to the offense.

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01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:58,120
Speaker 1: And even if there are some hiccups or a little

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Speaker 1: bit of lack of consistency along the way, it's not

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01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:04,719
Speaker 1: going to impact his roster status. Now, if he completely

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01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 1: falls off a cliff and can't do anything, well, then

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01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:10,400
Speaker 1: that could change things. But short of that, it sounds

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01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:12,040
Speaker 1: very much like he's gonna be on the roster. With

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown Bill's Insider Buffalo bills dot Com, we're talking

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01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:18,639
Speaker 1: about receivers. Zay Jones had a big catch today, Yeah,

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01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:21,880
Speaker 1: right at the goal line. Didn't get in, but again

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01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:27,080
Speaker 1: another acrobatic play in traffic, in traffic, and you know,

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01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:30,080
Speaker 1: that's that's the old Jerry Rice school logic, you know,

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01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:31,960
Speaker 1: and even in this setting you're not getting hit, but

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01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:34,000
Speaker 1: you know, Jerry Rice ust always say you're gonna get

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01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:35,680
Speaker 1: hit anyway, you may as well catch the dang thing.

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01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:39,320
Speaker 1: So Zay used every ounce of his athletic ability to

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01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 1: make that catch at the goal line and snared that

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01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:45,280
Speaker 1: pass because it was coming in fast. And to pull

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01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:47,760
Speaker 1: that in was very encouraging because I know there is

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01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:51,920
Speaker 1: still a portion of Bill's fans who don't have a

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01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 1: whole lot of faith in Zay Jones hands stretching back

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01:39:55,240 --> 01:39:57,600
Speaker 1: all the way, stretching back all the way to his

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01:39:57,680 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 1: rookie year, and uh, you know, people ignore the fact

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Speaker 1: that this guy was the leading receiver on this team

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01:40:02,840 --> 01:40:08,519
Speaker 1: and catches yard, catches yards and receiving touchdowns if I

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01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 1: if I remember right, yes, So, I mean he had

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Speaker 1: the triple Crown. Not that that's a major trophy with

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Speaker 1: the way the passing offense looked last year, but still

2145
01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:18,519
Speaker 1: in all, somebody's got to do it, and he was

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01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 1: the guy doing it. So you know, those are two

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Speaker 1: guys whose roster spots I believe are safe. Uh So

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01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:26,720
Speaker 1: that's four right there, and then you know Roberts is

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01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 1: going to be on the roster because it's five. So

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Speaker 1: what you're down to now is players like Isaiah McKenzie,

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01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 1: Ray Ray McLeod, Camp phill Ups, Duke Williams. All of

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01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:41,679
Speaker 1: those guys are in that same bucket, as coach McCurry

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01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:45,160
Speaker 1: wants to say, for one spot. And McKenzie is moving

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01:40:45,240 --> 01:40:48,599
Speaker 1: up because he is not yet with the first teamers,

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01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:52,040
Speaker 1: but he's getting just as many second team opportunities now

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01:40:52,120 --> 01:40:54,680
Speaker 1: as Ray Ray McLeod was. Where in the first two

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01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:57,280
Speaker 1: weeks in training camp, mcleoud was clearly ahead of him.

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01:40:57,360 --> 01:41:00,880
Speaker 1: And those two players are essentially the same player. They're

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01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:03,799
Speaker 1: the same guy. So who is going to step forward

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01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:07,880
Speaker 1: and separate here in these next two or three preseason games.

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Speaker 1: One thing I was going to ask you about it,

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01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:13,280
Speaker 1: I'm just asking, just not I'm just saying, they know

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01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:15,800
Speaker 1: who the guy is, if they're if they're lying to

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Speaker 1: the media when they're askays, hey, we know who he is,

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Speaker 1: particularly a young guy like Robert Foster. Yeah. And I'm

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01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:26,320
Speaker 1: maybe I'm cutting too much into this. I don't know,

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01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:27,600
Speaker 1: and I don't want to. I never want to be

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Speaker 1: one of those guys who is a conspiracy theorist. But

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Speaker 1: if they know who he is, how how do they

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Speaker 1: know who a guy is who's that young who had

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01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:36,240
Speaker 1: a half a season last year, who they expect to

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01:41:36,280 --> 01:41:38,599
Speaker 1: get much much better. Do they know that he has

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01:41:38,640 --> 01:41:40,760
Speaker 1: not gotten that much better? Or do they know he is?

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Speaker 1: And that's the question, how does anybody know whether that

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01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:45,400
Speaker 1: guy's made a step forward right if he's not getting

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Speaker 1: any reps. I think there were, because there's no question

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Speaker 1: Robert Foster had a long way to go, right. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's a debate. But I think also what's

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Speaker 1: trumping that is the fact that Colby Easley missed the

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Speaker 1: entire spring and John Brown missed most of the spring

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01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:01,840
Speaker 1: because his signal again other was having twins, so he

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01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:03,559
Speaker 1: was in and out of spring camp and didn't get

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01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:05,479
Speaker 1: a ton of reps with Josh, and so I think

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01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 1: the priority right now is get John Brown and Cole

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01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:11,720
Speaker 1: Beasley as acclimated to Josh Allen and the way he

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01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:14,800
Speaker 1: throws a football in this offense more than anything else,

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01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:19,800
Speaker 1: And Robert Foster's development, quite frankly, may have taken a

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Speaker 1: back seat to that, because I think it when it's

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Speaker 1: all said and done, Robert Foster's probably your four and

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01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:30,000
Speaker 1: Zay Jones is probably your three. You know, in terms

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Speaker 1: of your receiver rotation, when you get to a fifty

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Speaker 1: three man roster, and yes, Robert Foster does need to develop. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he does need to be more consistent. But I think

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01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:43,479
Speaker 1: he's at a place now where they're comfortable where they

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01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:46,760
Speaker 1: can say, look, we'll get back to him after we

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01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:50,120
Speaker 1: square John Brown and Cole Beasley away with Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: in the passing game. I think they need to make

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Speaker 1: progress there so they're ready for Week one to go

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01:42:55,280 --> 01:42:56,880
Speaker 1: with those guys, because those are the guys are gonna

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01:42:56,880 --> 01:42:58,720
Speaker 1: be on the field the most. We're with Chris Brown

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Speaker 1: builds insider Buffalo bill Com talking about today's practice, the

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01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:04,880
Speaker 1: first joint practice with Carolina, talking about where the Bills

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01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:06,320
Speaker 1: are at if you'd like to join, his phone lines

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Speaker 1: are open eight three fifty to three one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two fifty. Chris is with us for

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Speaker 1: a couple of more minutes. I want to move on

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01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:17,920
Speaker 1: tight ends. Anything new there here today? I didn't see anything.

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01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:21,160
Speaker 1: Russ and knocks still not bad rights working in but

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Speaker 1: he's limited. He's only doing individual player stuff. He's a

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Speaker 1: red jersey. I couldn't no, No, he's got a regular jersey,

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01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:30,800
Speaker 1: but he is not doing teamwork yet. And that makes

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01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:33,719
Speaker 1: sense because you know you've you already had a recurrence

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Speaker 1: of the injury, the same one that you had that

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01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:38,000
Speaker 1: kept you out all spring. You had a recurrence of

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01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:41,320
Speaker 1: it early in camp. You don't want his first full

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01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:46,759
Speaker 1: practice to be in a ramped up intensity setting against

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01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:49,920
Speaker 1: another team today. So I would be very surprised if

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01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:52,720
Speaker 1: he does anything this week. I think he's limited in

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01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:57,200
Speaker 1: practice today tomorrow, does conditioning work on Thursday, conditioning work

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Speaker 1: on Friday, and they come back at it on Sunday

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01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:02,200
Speaker 1: and see where he's at and say, Okay, let's give

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01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:04,320
Speaker 1: him a little bit more to do. So he's not

2223
01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:07,519
Speaker 1: ready yet. So now you know, you got Sweeney who

2224
01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:09,600
Speaker 1: won on a couple of routes. He just could not

2225
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:14,240
Speaker 1: connect and finish the play with Josh Allen. Allen kind

2226
01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:16,800
Speaker 1: of led him too much on one. But he's winning

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01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 1: on his routes, and I think he has opened the

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01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:23,240
Speaker 1: eyes of this offensive staff to the fact that he

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01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:28,400
Speaker 1: is more than just a five yard plant route, tight

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01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:31,120
Speaker 1: end safety valve receiver. He can do more than that

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01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:34,760
Speaker 1: and runs better than maybe even they thought he could,

2232
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:38,240
Speaker 1: and wins more on matchups than maybe they thought he could.

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Speaker 1: It's looking like a really, really nice seventh round pick.

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Speaker 1: The problem is you're gonna have a conundrum if Tyler

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01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:47,840
Speaker 1: Croft is ready at the beginning of the year. If

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01:44:47,880 --> 01:44:49,439
Speaker 1: Tyler Croft is not going to be ready at the

2237
01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:51,800
Speaker 1: beginning of the year, your easy way out there is

2238
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:54,840
Speaker 1: to go reserve pup with Tyler Croft. You push that

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01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 1: decision out to about week seven to ten, and then

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Speaker 1: you can keep Sweeney Chrome and Lee Smith and you

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01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:05,960
Speaker 1: keep four. But if Croft is back in the equation,

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01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:09,439
Speaker 1: that's gonna make for some tough calls there, and it

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01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:12,880
Speaker 1: might be Chrome. Okay, let me work in a call here.

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01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:15,200
Speaker 1: You got another time question. No, I was gonna move

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01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:17,160
Speaker 1: on to the old line. Yeah, we gotta talk about

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01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:19,479
Speaker 1: but let me work in a call. Terry on the

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Speaker 1: line in Tonawanda. Hello, Terry, go ahead, you're on the air.

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01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:28,080
Speaker 1: How are you guys doing. Bill can't hear Terry Terry talking?

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01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:31,120
Speaker 1: Terry is not going on there. Terry will fix that

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Speaker 1: problem back at our network control, Steve, go ahead. All right,

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01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:37,600
Speaker 1: let's let's talk about the offensive lines. Give us we

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01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:41,880
Speaker 1: figured Cody Ford right guard and Sechi is a left tackle.

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01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:45,680
Speaker 1: Dawkins is it is a right tackle. Dawkins is a

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01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 1: left tackle. Who are the two guards? Who are the center.

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Speaker 1: How are they They're still they're still working that uh

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01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:58,120
Speaker 1: six man rotation, so left to right. Today it was Dawkins, Spain, Feliciano, Ford,

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Speaker 1: and Inseeci. Okay, Then on the third rep or sometimes

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01:46:03,400 --> 01:46:09,280
Speaker 1: the fourth rep, they rotate and Secki out. They kicked

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01:46:09,320 --> 01:46:13,280
Speaker 1: Ford out to right tackle, they kicked Feliciano out to

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01:46:13,400 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 1: right guard, and they bring Long in as the center.

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01:46:18,200 --> 01:46:20,560
Speaker 1: And that's how they roll until the first team is

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01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:24,720
Speaker 1: done with all their reps. So that has been going

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01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:29,280
Speaker 1: on since since Friday's practice, the day after the first

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01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:33,120
Speaker 1: preseason game, they've been doing this six man rotation. They

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01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:34,840
Speaker 1: did it again on Sunday, and they did it again

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Speaker 1: today and Secki and Longer or rotating out in and

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Speaker 1: out right right and so not at the same position,

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Speaker 1: I mean, no, and on on a rare occasion, Long

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Speaker 1: will kick in for Spain for a repper two and

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Speaker 1: play left guard. That happened over the weekend a couple

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01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:55,679
Speaker 1: of times, which was the first time we saw Spain

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01:46:55,880 --> 01:46:59,800
Speaker 1: step out for a repper two. So it's clear to

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Speaker 1: me that they have their top seven, Morris being one

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01:47:05,160 --> 01:47:08,800
Speaker 1: of them, and then these six those are the those

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01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:12,559
Speaker 1: are their our top eight. Sorry, am I counting right, five, six, seven, seven,

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01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:15,160
Speaker 1: that's their top seven. So you've got the two guards

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01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 1: that can also play center in Feliciano when long, and

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01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:21,479
Speaker 1: then you have Ford and Seki and then Morris who's

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01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:25,000
Speaker 1: out still in the concussion protocol. Although it looked like

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01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:28,160
Speaker 1: Morse took another step today. He was not in pads,

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01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:31,479
Speaker 1: but he was doing football related activity on a non

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01:47:31,640 --> 01:47:36,040
Speaker 1: contact basis. That means he has reached step four of

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01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:39,720
Speaker 1: the return to participation protocol. So all that's left is

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01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:42,760
Speaker 1: full medical clearance and then he's free to return to

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01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:46,760
Speaker 1: full activity in the practice setting and obviously preseason games.

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01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:49,120
Speaker 1: So I don't think he's gonna do anything this week,

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01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:53,559
Speaker 1: but hopefully, you know, by this time next week he's

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01:47:53,600 --> 01:47:55,880
Speaker 1: back in the practice set. Here's the concussion protocol, and

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01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:59,720
Speaker 1: you're at four football specific activities. The cognitive load of

2290
01:47:59,720 --> 01:48:02,519
Speaker 1: playing football will be added, and players will participate in

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01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:06,320
Speaker 1: non contact activities for the typical duration of a full practice.

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01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:11,360
Speaker 1: So he was at all practice today, yeah, only early Yeah,

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01:48:11,439 --> 01:48:14,000
Speaker 1: So I mean he's at the very beginning stages of

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01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:17,040
Speaker 1: step four and it's all non contact. He was doing

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01:48:17,120 --> 01:48:20,040
Speaker 1: pass sets, you know, with his teammates in a helmet,

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Speaker 1: no pads, and nobody was touching and he wasn't touching Anya,

2297
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:25,599
Speaker 1: he wasn't participating with him, he was just doing it. Well,

2298
01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:27,800
Speaker 1: he had a guy shadowing in front of him, right whatever,

2299
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:31,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, non contact. So that's step four and that's

2300
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:33,680
Speaker 1: where he's at. So we're step away and I'm not

2301
01:48:33,720 --> 01:48:35,320
Speaker 1: gonna put the time people on it, but it looks

2302
01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:37,680
Speaker 1: like the Lions game would be the logical place for

2303
01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:40,599
Speaker 1: him that I think they're hoping he's ready by then

2304
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:44,200
Speaker 1: for sure, because we're going on next week will be

2305
01:48:44,240 --> 01:48:48,920
Speaker 1: the third week. So that's and guys, we talked about

2306
01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:52,280
Speaker 1: this too. Nobody saw a play where they would have said,

2307
01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:55,000
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm not surprised he's in concussion protocol. Remember

2308
01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:56,400
Speaker 1: when he took that knock on the back of his

2309
01:48:56,479 --> 01:48:58,639
Speaker 1: head when he fell down. Remember when he fell down

2310
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:00,360
Speaker 1: and somebody need him in the back of the Like you,

2311
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:03,120
Speaker 1: you'd be like, oh, yeah, well that's why he's We

2312
01:49:03,160 --> 01:49:05,400
Speaker 1: didn't see anything like that. Nothing. Let me try one

2313
01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:07,920
Speaker 1: more on the call here, Terry and ton of one

2314
01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:10,160
Speaker 1: to Terry. Do we have you now? Yeah? How you

2315
01:49:10,240 --> 01:49:14,000
Speaker 1: guys doing? God? Terry, thanks for being patient with us. Oh,

2316
01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:16,560
Speaker 1: no problem. Thanks for taking my call. I would like

2317
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:22,840
Speaker 1: to talk about the expert weed player ways. Um yeah, me,

2318
01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:25,360
Speaker 1: Like if if you're playing the game like that with

2319
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:28,240
Speaker 1: no page and you go to the NFL, I mean,

2320
01:49:28,479 --> 01:49:30,479
Speaker 1: that guy's gonna be hard to bring down and I

2321
01:49:30,600 --> 01:49:32,800
Speaker 1: just got a good feeling he's gonna be really good.

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01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:38,320
Speaker 1: Any chance of making the team slim? Yeah, slim. I

2323
01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:41,000
Speaker 1: think it would have to take. You'd have to see, um,

2324
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:44,040
Speaker 1: some guys get injured. You know, it'd have to They'd

2325
01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:45,599
Speaker 1: have to clear the way from he's not gonna beat

2326
01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:49,040
Speaker 1: Frank Gorf and uh Lashauna McCoy. He's probably not gonna

2327
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:52,280
Speaker 1: be Devin singletarry out. Um, you could make a case

2328
01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:56,799
Speaker 1: for him maybe with t J. Yelden unless Yelden bounces

2329
01:49:56,840 --> 01:49:58,920
Speaker 1: back with a strong game this and you remember Yelden

2330
01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:03,439
Speaker 1: had the fumble this last week and did not play

2331
01:50:03,479 --> 01:50:08,519
Speaker 1: again after didn't play after that, So the the the

2332
01:50:08,960 --> 01:50:11,080
Speaker 1: road would have to be cleared. I think for for

2333
01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:13,840
Speaker 1: Christian Wade too, because I think what we have to

2334
01:50:13,960 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 1: also remember, you know, people see the sixty five yard

2335
01:50:16,479 --> 01:50:18,479
Speaker 1: touchdown and say, oh wow, wait, we need that guy

2336
01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:22,840
Speaker 1: on our roster. And there are some physical capabilities that

2337
01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:25,880
Speaker 1: say yes, there is a physical ability level that can

2338
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:31,200
Speaker 1: play in the NFL, but the knowledge base of the

2339
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:38,120
Speaker 1: game is simply not there. I mean Tobridge, Keith Towbridge

2340
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:40,000
Speaker 1: had to tell him, Okay, you can go to the

2341
01:50:40,080 --> 01:50:41,760
Speaker 1: sideline now because we got to line up for a

2342
01:50:41,800 --> 01:50:44,160
Speaker 1: point after attempt and you're not on that group, so

2343
01:50:44,320 --> 01:50:47,040
Speaker 1: go over to the sideline. Nice run. Uh. He had

2344
01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 1: no clue now. And coaches talked about this too, talking

2345
01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:55,479
Speaker 1: about how his first day here in spring OTAs they're

2346
01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:58,439
Speaker 1: teaching him where the A, the B and the C

2347
01:50:58,640 --> 01:51:01,600
Speaker 1: gap are Like this is something that kids learn at

2348
01:51:01,680 --> 01:51:04,680
Speaker 1: eight or nine in peewee football and he doesn't know

2349
01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:08,960
Speaker 1: that from Adam. And to develop instincts in this short

2350
01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:12,439
Speaker 1: period of time and make the plays that he will

2351
01:51:12,520 --> 01:51:14,720
Speaker 1: need to make on a consistent basis, I think is

2352
01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:17,920
Speaker 1: a supreme challenge. Not saying he can't overcome it, but

2353
01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:20,120
Speaker 1: I don't think the time frame that is at his

2354
01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:24,160
Speaker 1: disposal here is conducive to him making the roster. It's

2355
01:51:24,200 --> 01:51:26,599
Speaker 1: just too much to master in too short a time.

2356
01:51:26,680 --> 01:51:28,800
Speaker 1: You've got the golden ticket to the practice squad and

2357
01:51:29,640 --> 01:51:31,960
Speaker 1: use that they can use that year. It helps them, Yeah,

2358
01:51:32,040 --> 01:51:34,720
Speaker 1: they get some benefit out of putting him on the

2359
01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:38,519
Speaker 1: practice squad because he's an extra. He's an extra roster

2360
01:51:38,640 --> 01:51:41,360
Speaker 1: spot basically for free, so they can have eleven guys

2361
01:51:41,400 --> 01:51:45,559
Speaker 1: on their practice squads to the ten. I think they're

2362
01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:48,040
Speaker 1: gonna exploit that. I think they want to exploit that.

2363
01:51:48,160 --> 01:51:50,720
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna and la for lack of a

2364
01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:52,840
Speaker 1: better way to put it, they're gonna use him for

2365
01:51:52,920 --> 01:51:56,200
Speaker 1: an extra roster spot, so they're gonna keep him around,

2366
01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:59,559
Speaker 1: develop him as best they can, and then they'll give

2367
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:01,800
Speaker 1: him a shot the next year. Now, we've seen other

2368
01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:06,960
Speaker 1: guys in this players Pathway program from Europe come over

2369
01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 1: and they all spend a year just acclimating to the

2370
01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:14,360
Speaker 1: game and the and the country and the culture and

2371
01:52:14,479 --> 01:52:17,439
Speaker 1: the lifestyle. So give the guy a break, you know's

2372
01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:20,439
Speaker 1: I know he we want to see him play because

2373
01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:23,439
Speaker 1: he's got some ability, but give him a chance to

2374
01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:25,599
Speaker 1: catch his breath before you throw him into an NFL game.

2375
01:52:25,640 --> 01:52:29,560
Speaker 1: We should mention the defense today they were having some

2376
01:52:29,640 --> 01:52:32,559
Speaker 1: trouble with Greg Olson and Christian McCaffrey. I'm gonna tell

2377
01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:37,559
Speaker 1: you right now, Christian McCaffrey is unbelievable. If you I'm

2378
01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:40,639
Speaker 1: telling you what you see from him on television does

2379
01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:44,040
Speaker 1: not do his ability justice. When you are down on

2380
01:52:44,120 --> 01:52:47,519
Speaker 1: the field and you look at his ability to separate

2381
01:52:47,960 --> 01:52:52,599
Speaker 1: from anyone on the playing field, it is something to see.

2382
01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:58,200
Speaker 1: He is so quick and then the acceleration. I swear

2383
01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:02,280
Speaker 1: he's at top speed in three steps. He is a special,

2384
01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:05,000
Speaker 1: special player and they're gonna use him a ton this

2385
01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:09,960
Speaker 1: year because the guy is always open. Yeah. Yeah, he

2386
01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:12,840
Speaker 1: had about seven today. They could not stop him. He

2387
01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:16,200
Speaker 1: was an unstoppable force for the Carolina offense today. And

2388
01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:20,519
Speaker 1: then Olsen is just this silky smooth kind of route runner.

2389
01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:23,799
Speaker 1: He's just he just gets open. I still don't understand

2390
01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:26,320
Speaker 1: why he wears the wool beanie cap, even down here

2391
01:53:26,320 --> 01:53:28,720
Speaker 1: at this time of year. I'm like, dude, you went

2392
01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:30,800
Speaker 1: to University of Miami, Like what do you wear? Like

2393
01:53:31,880 --> 01:53:33,640
Speaker 1: I got to ask him about that. The Bills. The

2394
01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:36,040
Speaker 1: Bills went up against McCaffrey in his second NFL game,

2395
01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:39,240
Speaker 1: remember twenty seventeen, Yeah, we too, And that time I thought, wow,

2396
01:53:39,240 --> 01:53:40,880
Speaker 1: he's really and Olsen left that game with a bad

2397
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:43,360
Speaker 1: foot because he gets hurt that game. McCaffrey is good.

2398
01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:47,639
Speaker 1: He's great now. I mean he's taking jump, he's gonna

2399
01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:49,479
Speaker 1: be special for that team this year. I mean he

2400
01:53:49,640 --> 01:53:54,519
Speaker 1: might have sixty catches this year, and I mean they're

2401
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:57,560
Speaker 1: talking about he's close to a thousand yards receiving and

2402
01:53:57,960 --> 01:53:59,880
Speaker 1: that he might be a two thousand all purpose yard.

2403
01:54:00,280 --> 01:54:02,920
Speaker 1: Can Christian McCaffrey be a guy that rushes for a

2404
01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:05,599
Speaker 1: thousand and catches a thousand yards? Yeah, it all depends.

2405
01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:07,720
Speaker 1: He doesn't have the best body type in the world,

2406
01:54:07,760 --> 01:54:10,479
Speaker 1: but he came in here jacked up and he is

2407
01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:13,640
Speaker 1: not any slower from what I saw today. Now, you know,

2408
01:54:13,680 --> 01:54:16,720
Speaker 1: the defense did make some plays. Matt Milano had a

2409
01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 1: tip on a good coverage play in the end zone.

2410
01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:21,000
Speaker 1: Levi Wallace was there to catch it for an I

2411
01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:23,400
Speaker 1: and t right at the goal line, So that was

2412
01:54:23,479 --> 01:54:26,320
Speaker 1: one of the better plays on defense. Maurice had a

2413
01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:29,000
Speaker 1: Maurice Alexander had a batted pass coming across the middle,

2414
01:54:29,080 --> 01:54:30,960
Speaker 1: running with a tight end. He had good coverage there,

2415
01:54:31,280 --> 01:54:33,760
Speaker 1: tipped the ball and almost intercepted it all by himself.

2416
01:54:34,760 --> 01:54:36,440
Speaker 1: And there were a couple other plays here and there.

2417
01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:40,960
Speaker 1: But other than Olson and McCaffrey, that offense didn't really

2418
01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:43,720
Speaker 1: do a whole lot. They didn't connect very much. I

2419
01:54:43,800 --> 01:54:48,240
Speaker 1: thought Cam looked all right nothing special, so defense did Okay,

2420
01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:50,240
Speaker 1: you said something a couple of minutes ago, Brownie about

2421
01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:53,320
Speaker 1: and it got me thinking about the reason we're here.

2422
01:54:53,440 --> 01:54:56,160
Speaker 1: And you said something about the what you got ramped

2423
01:54:56,240 --> 01:54:59,840
Speaker 1: up competition level. I heard about that, and I've seen

2424
01:54:59,840 --> 01:55:02,160
Speaker 1: the joined practices before, but I really saw it today.

2425
01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:04,800
Speaker 1: I mean there were some juice, yeah, probably because of

2426
01:55:04,840 --> 01:55:07,920
Speaker 1: our travel issues last night. I'm thinking why we year?

2427
01:55:07,960 --> 01:55:09,600
Speaker 1: What is this all about? And I go out there

2428
01:55:09,600 --> 01:55:11,960
Speaker 1: and watch practice and say, I see, I see why

2429
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:14,360
Speaker 1: they're here. I see it's a different practice when there's

2430
01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:16,920
Speaker 1: two different teams, And I think, what is really helping

2431
01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 1: this arrangement because we've seen it with Cleveland two times before,

2432
01:55:23,120 --> 01:55:27,960
Speaker 1: is there is such a strong relationship between Ron Rivera

2433
01:55:28,040 --> 01:55:30,839
Speaker 1: and Sean McDermott. There is an inherent level of trust

2434
01:55:32,200 --> 01:55:34,960
Speaker 1: between those two men, and it has filtered down to

2435
01:55:35,080 --> 01:55:37,240
Speaker 1: both teams. I mean, there were a couple of times

2436
01:55:37,320 --> 01:55:40,280
Speaker 1: where there was a heart Duke Williams, for example, catches

2437
01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:42,800
Speaker 1: a pass over the middle. The safety comes up to

2438
01:55:42,880 --> 01:55:45,760
Speaker 1: try to thud him, and Duke lowers his shoulder and

2439
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:48,480
Speaker 1: decks the guy and the crowd's going nuts. The Bills

2440
01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:51,400
Speaker 1: fan love it, but Duke goes down and he helps

2441
01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:52,880
Speaker 1: the guy up, you know what I mean. And it's

2442
01:55:52,920 --> 01:55:58,120
Speaker 1: that kind of response that was pushed into these players

2443
01:55:58,160 --> 01:56:01,000
Speaker 1: the last forty eight hours from their staffs to say,

2444
01:56:02,120 --> 01:56:04,280
Speaker 1: we got too much respect for those men over there,

2445
01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:06,800
Speaker 1: and I have too much respect for the head coach

2446
01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:09,200
Speaker 1: over there. You're not going to be stupid. It's just

2447
01:56:09,400 --> 01:56:11,120
Speaker 1: not going to happen. We're here to get work done,

2448
01:56:11,600 --> 01:56:14,120
Speaker 1: not to be jack wagons. And we didn't see that

2449
01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:18,640
Speaker 1: today and that was encouraging. And I'm telling I'll tell

2450
01:56:18,640 --> 01:56:20,960
Speaker 1: you this because Josh Allen referenced this at his press

2451
01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:26,839
Speaker 1: conference today. The benefits carried on even after the practice

2452
01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:29,280
Speaker 1: was over. You know, Luke Keikley is known as one

2453
01:56:29,320 --> 01:56:31,080
Speaker 1: of the smartest players in this league as far as

2454
01:56:31,160 --> 01:56:36,720
Speaker 1: diagnosing things, and Josh saw him do something different than

2455
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:40,360
Speaker 1: is anticipated on a certain play concept that they run offensively.

2456
01:56:40,880 --> 01:56:43,720
Speaker 1: So after practice he goes to Keikley and he says,

2457
01:56:44,160 --> 01:56:46,840
Speaker 1: I just want to ask you real quick, why did

2458
01:56:46,920 --> 01:56:49,520
Speaker 1: you do what you did on that play concept we

2459
01:56:49,640 --> 01:56:51,920
Speaker 1: ran And they had a little talk. They talked for

2460
01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:55,240
Speaker 1: about five minutes about that play alone, and he said, no,

2461
01:56:55,600 --> 01:56:57,760
Speaker 1: you guys got a good offensive concept. There. That's gonna

2462
01:56:57,800 --> 01:57:00,640
Speaker 1: work a lot of times. And he said, well, why

2463
01:57:00,680 --> 01:57:02,920
Speaker 1: did you do what you did? And so he explained, well,

2464
01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make that a lesser play than it

2465
01:57:05,200 --> 01:57:07,880
Speaker 1: is for you by doing this, and so it's that

2466
01:57:08,120 --> 01:57:10,720
Speaker 1: give and take. So now Josh files that away in

2467
01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:13,480
Speaker 1: his memory bank. And so when he's playing against another

2468
01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:17,040
Speaker 1: really smart middle linebacker, he's gonna think, maybe this guy

2469
01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:19,360
Speaker 1: plays this the way Keekley did, and I'm not gonna

2470
01:57:19,400 --> 01:57:22,640
Speaker 1: throw it in that area. That's huge because I've watched

2471
01:57:22,720 --> 01:57:24,440
Speaker 1: Keikley play when I was an analyst in the booth.

2472
01:57:24,440 --> 01:57:27,440
Speaker 1: He watched these guys play on film. Keekley absolutely looks

2473
01:57:27,480 --> 01:57:31,360
Speaker 1: clairvoyant in what he gets there before everybody else. He's

2474
01:57:31,560 --> 01:57:33,640
Speaker 1: the ball is snapped, he runs to where the ball's going,

2475
01:57:34,240 --> 01:57:37,480
Speaker 1: doesn't It's like he knows ahead of time. The other

2476
01:57:37,560 --> 01:57:39,840
Speaker 1: defenders are like, they take that hop steps, see what's

2477
01:57:39,840 --> 01:57:42,400
Speaker 1: gonna happen. They're kind of reading their keys. He's already gone.

2478
01:57:42,480 --> 01:57:44,480
Speaker 1: It's like a starting gun for him. He just runs

2479
01:57:44,560 --> 01:57:47,840
Speaker 1: straight to it, and it's it's pretty amazing to watch

2480
01:57:47,960 --> 01:57:51,520
Speaker 1: him play middle linebacker. And I'm glad that Josh realizes

2481
01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:53,640
Speaker 1: the tune I'm sure that coaches, but those are some

2482
01:57:53,760 --> 01:57:56,080
Speaker 1: of the advantages you get in an environment like this,

2483
01:57:56,200 --> 01:57:58,800
Speaker 1: And Josh said it, Look, we're not facing each other

2484
01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:02,080
Speaker 1: this year, so there's a comfort level right to kind

2485
01:58:02,120 --> 01:58:05,880
Speaker 1: of swap knowledge and share those things to make each

2486
01:58:05,960 --> 01:58:08,560
Speaker 1: team better, justin when I can play each other unless

2487
01:58:08,560 --> 01:58:11,680
Speaker 1: we're both in the Super Bowl, so where there's a

2488
01:58:11,800 --> 01:58:15,200
Speaker 1: free flow of information going between the players, and that's

2489
01:58:15,240 --> 01:58:18,400
Speaker 1: helping both sides, right, And there's no question that. Listen,

2490
01:58:18,520 --> 01:58:20,840
Speaker 1: if the Panthers can get the Buffalo Bills to beat

2491
01:58:20,920 --> 01:58:24,560
Speaker 1: all the NFC teams on their schedule, that's a plus

2492
01:58:24,640 --> 01:58:28,000
Speaker 1: for the Panthers. Yeah, and vice versa. And I didn't

2493
01:58:28,040 --> 01:58:31,240
Speaker 1: think of it that way, but yeah, you're right. You know, So, Bronnie,

2494
01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:32,520
Speaker 1: what do you got? What do you got on the

2495
01:58:32,680 --> 01:58:34,600
Speaker 1: website Buffalo Bills dot com And what's coming up on

2496
01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:37,520
Speaker 1: the website in relation to today's practice. Top three things

2497
01:58:37,640 --> 01:58:39,800
Speaker 1: is that you need to know from today's practice is

2498
01:58:39,800 --> 01:58:43,480
Speaker 1: already up there. I'll be doing a periscope in a

2499
01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:47,840
Speaker 1: little while to answer some fan questions directly, because you know,

2500
01:58:47,960 --> 01:58:50,440
Speaker 1: with top three things, you can't get to everything. We

2501
01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:52,480
Speaker 1: just try to give you the drive through window version

2502
01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:54,400
Speaker 1: of what went on today, what you absolutely have to know,

2503
01:58:55,040 --> 01:58:57,720
Speaker 1: and then we've got our Bills minute. We've got all

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Speaker 1: our press conferences up there from today, including job Allen,

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01:59:01,040 --> 01:59:03,760
Speaker 1: who talked for about seven minutes with the media after practice,

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01:59:03,800 --> 01:59:06,400
Speaker 1: had some good things to say about the offense and

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01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:08,200
Speaker 1: what he got out of it. Carolina being a three

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01:59:08,280 --> 01:59:11,760
Speaker 1: four front was a benefit something he won't see, you know,

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01:59:11,840 --> 01:59:13,640
Speaker 1: in the training camp setting, but he will see this

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01:59:14,120 --> 01:59:16,240
Speaker 1: season in the regular season with some of the opponents

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01:59:16,280 --> 01:59:19,120
Speaker 1: they have. So yeah, we're we're chock full of goodies

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01:59:19,960 --> 01:59:21,640
Speaker 1: for the fans. We didn't give you a chance to

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01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:24,480
Speaker 1: weigh in in our Twitter poll as today. I think

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01:59:24,520 --> 01:59:26,960
Speaker 1: you might like it. What is the biggest benefit for

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01:59:27,080 --> 01:59:30,600
Speaker 1: the Bills practicing this week these two days against Carolina.

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01:59:30,680 --> 01:59:32,640
Speaker 1: What's the best thing the Bills can get out of

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01:59:32,680 --> 01:59:35,600
Speaker 1: the joint practices? On Twitter, we've had six hundred eighty

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Speaker 1: three votes. Forty five respondent say a competitive uptick practice,

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01:59:40,840 --> 01:59:43,720
Speaker 1: Forty three percent say a measuring stick for Josh Allen,

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01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:45,920
Speaker 1: ten percent say the Bills get a look at a

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01:59:45,960 --> 01:59:48,120
Speaker 1: three four defense. Two percent if something else in mind,

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01:59:48,160 --> 01:59:50,160
Speaker 1: I like that this offense is going against the three

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01:59:50,200 --> 01:59:52,800
Speaker 1: foot front. It's kind of a hybrid because sometimes they

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01:59:52,840 --> 01:59:55,040
Speaker 1: will bring that linebacker up and he'll actually put his hand.

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01:59:55,120 --> 01:59:58,440
Speaker 1: Everybody has everybody's going hybrid these Yeah, well it is

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01:59:58,480 --> 02:00:01,640
Speaker 1: what it is. But I would say, based on where

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02:00:01,760 --> 02:00:05,440
Speaker 1: we are in training camp, this is the time where

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02:00:05,480 --> 02:00:08,040
Speaker 1: you get that lull, you know what I mean. The

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02:00:08,200 --> 02:00:11,440
Speaker 1: players have been banging around for two weeks. They already

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02:00:11,440 --> 02:00:14,200
Speaker 1: got a preseason game in the books. They're just looking

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02:00:14,280 --> 02:00:16,600
Speaker 1: to you know what I mean, getting And then you

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02:00:16,800 --> 02:00:22,880
Speaker 1: introduce this element and it restokes the fire, so to say.

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Speaker 1: And so I would say the competitive uptick, that's what's

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Speaker 1: most beneficial because of the timing of it. We're here

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Speaker 1: in week three, guys are tired of banging around. Oh

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02:00:34,640 --> 02:00:36,480
Speaker 1: who's that I'm gonna show up this guy, you know

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02:00:36,520 --> 02:00:38,920
Speaker 1: what I mean. So that's just it turns the dial

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Speaker 1: back up. One last thing I wanted to ask you

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Speaker 1: before we go. I've said that they do get a

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Speaker 1: lot out of these joint practices. In fact, I thought,

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02:00:47,280 --> 02:00:49,160
Speaker 1: and I made this point to Murford or in the show,

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02:00:49,240 --> 02:00:50,840
Speaker 1: that if you go to an eighteen game schedule, you

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02:00:50,880 --> 02:00:53,040
Speaker 1: have two regular seats or two preseason games. That kind

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02:00:53,080 --> 02:00:54,800
Speaker 1: of if all that's on the front. Even if it's not,

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02:00:55,440 --> 02:00:59,200
Speaker 1: I think the course, if you add up the benefit

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02:00:59,280 --> 02:01:02,920
Speaker 1: of practicing against these guys twice two full days, I

2547
02:01:03,000 --> 02:01:05,920
Speaker 1: think that's almost as good or better than one single

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02:01:05,960 --> 02:01:10,800
Speaker 1: preseason game, because you get logistically it's a nightmare. But yeah, sure,

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Speaker 1: but I think the benefit for the team is better

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02:01:13,560 --> 02:01:16,360
Speaker 1: than playing a preseason game, right, No, I think I

2551
02:01:16,720 --> 02:01:18,920
Speaker 1: see the value in that. Yeah, absolutely, I see the

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02:01:19,000 --> 02:01:21,360
Speaker 1: value in that. One last thing, keep an eye on

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02:01:21,640 --> 02:01:26,160
Speaker 1: Ryan Bates, the kid they traded for offensive lineman. He

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02:01:26,320 --> 02:01:30,760
Speaker 1: played tackle the first day in practice on Sunday with

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Speaker 1: the third unit. Today. They had him at center already

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02:01:34,560 --> 02:01:37,640
Speaker 1: two days and he already can make line calls and

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02:01:37,720 --> 02:01:39,920
Speaker 1: he's at center with the third group. A guy to

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02:01:40,040 --> 02:01:44,000
Speaker 1: keep an eye on. K Yeah, he was undrafted rookie

2559
02:01:44,400 --> 02:01:48,760
Speaker 1: out of Penn State and with the with the track

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02:01:48,840 --> 02:01:51,960
Speaker 1: they've got him on and it's a fast one. I

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02:01:52,040 --> 02:01:55,320
Speaker 1: would keep an eye out for him, maybe pushing some

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02:01:55,480 --> 02:01:58,320
Speaker 1: other guys off of that third unit and getting some

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Speaker 1: more reps as we go through and provide he handles

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Speaker 1: what they think you can handle. Watch for it. Thanks Brownie,

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02:02:03,320 --> 02:02:06,400
Speaker 1: Thanks Chris Brownie, Chris brown Bills Insider Buffalo Bills dot Com.

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02:02:06,480 --> 02:02:07,960
Speaker 1: Steve and I back with more. You can give us

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Speaker 1: a call eight oh three five fifty and toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty one

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Speaker 1: of Bills Line presented by Kalina Help. We're coming here

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Speaker 1: from Spartanburg, South Carolina on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back

2571
02:02:35,080 --> 02:02:38,240
Speaker 1: John Murphy's Steve Tasker from Spartanburg, South Carolina. Stee. We

2572
02:02:38,280 --> 02:02:39,840
Speaker 1: gotta get out of here soon. The temperature is up

2573
02:02:39,880 --> 02:02:45,640
Speaker 1: to ninety five almost that matches this humidity. It's it's

2574
02:02:45,680 --> 02:02:48,560
Speaker 1: pretty brual. Thanks to Chris Brownie and a love good observation,

2575
02:02:48,640 --> 02:02:50,800
Speaker 1: Steve and I to get here to do the show.

2576
02:02:50,960 --> 02:02:52,840
Speaker 1: Left practice a little early. Chris kind of filled in

2577
02:02:52,880 --> 02:02:55,360
Speaker 1: some of the blanks, made some good points about wide

2578
02:02:55,400 --> 02:02:58,720
Speaker 1: receiver play, offensive line play, and an interesting observation about

2579
02:02:58,720 --> 02:03:00,680
Speaker 1: the guy they just acquired in the tight right. I

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02:03:00,760 --> 02:03:03,080
Speaker 1: hadn't then anybody to talk about him. I don't know

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02:03:03,160 --> 02:03:05,080
Speaker 1: where he baits bates, I don't know where he fits

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02:03:05,120 --> 02:03:08,000
Speaker 1: into this. I think who knows whether that's a reaction

2583
02:03:08,080 --> 02:03:10,960
Speaker 1: to something sinister about you know, Mitch Morrise. They're bringing

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02:03:11,000 --> 02:03:12,600
Speaker 1: a guy and all of a sudden, they wanted place

2585
02:03:12,640 --> 02:03:15,240
Speaker 1: and I just think they're trying to get better at

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02:03:15,320 --> 02:03:19,480
Speaker 1: every turn. And Bates, I think they wanted him because

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02:03:19,520 --> 02:03:21,640
Speaker 1: they probably knew who he was before the draft. He

2588
02:03:21,720 --> 02:03:24,240
Speaker 1: turned out to be a guy that got signed by

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02:03:24,280 --> 02:03:27,800
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles, and they probably said, you know what,

2590
02:03:28,000 --> 02:03:32,600
Speaker 1: and they traded for him, right, I mean Harold for

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02:03:32,720 --> 02:03:35,360
Speaker 1: him on Friday. I think that's I think that says

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02:03:35,400 --> 02:03:38,120
Speaker 1: something about their knowledge about him and what they're looking at.

2593
02:03:38,320 --> 02:03:41,440
Speaker 1: And I think it feels it's just a little makes

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02:03:41,480 --> 02:03:43,640
Speaker 1: him a little bit more secure about guys that they

2595
02:03:43,640 --> 02:03:45,480
Speaker 1: can put out there they think they can coach up

2596
02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:47,680
Speaker 1: and play. Our Twitter poll today, what's the best thing

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02:03:47,720 --> 02:03:50,320
Speaker 1: the Bills can get out of these joint practices with

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02:03:50,400 --> 02:03:53,040
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. We've been up on Twitter for about

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Speaker 1: two and a half hours. We've got more than six votes.

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Speaker 1: Forty five percent of you say they can get competitive

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02:03:58,440 --> 02:04:01,880
Speaker 1: uptick in practice in the teo practice. Forty three percent

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02:04:02,000 --> 02:04:04,200
Speaker 1: say they can get a measuring stick for Josh Allen.

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02:04:04,440 --> 02:04:05,880
Speaker 1: What are you saying on Twitter? Let's go to the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet. It is brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems,

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Speaker 1: the official movers of the Buffalo Bills. They moved the

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Speaker 1: Bills equipment down here. We saw the truck outside right.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty impressive what you got on the tweet sheet there,

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02:04:16,880 --> 02:04:19,920
Speaker 1: Steve from Jose. The team goes as the quarterback goes.

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02:04:20,000 --> 02:04:22,440
Speaker 1: The more opportunities Josh Allen gets to face another defense,

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02:04:22,560 --> 02:04:25,000
Speaker 1: the better off the team will be going into this season.

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02:04:25,080 --> 02:04:27,520
Speaker 1: I agree with that wholeheartedly. The more reps Josh Allen

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02:04:27,560 --> 02:04:30,240
Speaker 1: can get and the more good work. We heard Chris

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Speaker 1: Brown talk about that conversation he had with Luke Keickley

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02:04:32,880 --> 02:04:35,720
Speaker 1: that you can't get that anywhere else. Josh and Luke Keckley, Yeah,

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02:04:36,320 --> 02:04:38,120
Speaker 1: talking about what he was doing, why he did what

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02:04:38,240 --> 02:04:40,480
Speaker 1: he did, and the route concept that he was facing,

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02:04:40,560 --> 02:04:43,800
Speaker 1: and it was I love that. Yeah, that's that's professional football,

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02:04:44,120 --> 02:04:46,320
Speaker 1: you know what I like about that? Among I love

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Speaker 1: everything about it, especially the the fact of Josh Allen

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02:04:49,200 --> 02:04:52,160
Speaker 1: him and that kind of curiosity and respect. Obviously for

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02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:54,160
Speaker 1: Luke Keickley to say, I wonder what he was doing

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02:04:54,200 --> 02:04:56,360
Speaker 1: when he was thinking I'm going to him after practice

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02:04:56,480 --> 02:04:58,880
Speaker 1: and knowing enough about him not doing the right thing. Yeah,

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02:04:59,360 --> 02:05:02,200
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of next level. So I'm it's a

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02:05:02,240 --> 02:05:04,680
Speaker 1: good sign. Yeah, it's really good. Here's one from Doug.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask this question you said, I got

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02:05:06,720 --> 02:05:09,240
Speaker 1: a question for Steve. Is there a wall you hit

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02:05:09,320 --> 02:05:11,920
Speaker 1: when you continue to go against the same player in practice?

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02:05:12,360 --> 02:05:14,640
Speaker 1: Switching it up by having a joint practice, I would

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02:05:14,720 --> 02:05:17,000
Speaker 1: think gives the guys a nice change of pace and

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02:05:17,080 --> 02:05:19,560
Speaker 1: practice footworker moves on someone else. What do you recall

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02:05:19,600 --> 02:05:22,200
Speaker 1: about that? Well, not, I don't. I wouldn't describe it

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02:05:22,240 --> 02:05:25,240
Speaker 1: as a wall. Certainly, it's refreshing to go against somebody

2634
02:05:25,320 --> 02:05:28,920
Speaker 1: new because you can because you have a menu of

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02:05:29,040 --> 02:05:30,800
Speaker 1: things that you can do when you like, say, for instance,

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02:05:30,800 --> 02:05:32,760
Speaker 1: I always go back to one on ones when you

2637
02:05:32,840 --> 02:05:36,160
Speaker 1: think about looking at other guys because as many guys

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02:05:36,200 --> 02:05:38,800
Speaker 1: as they're on the roster, you're going to see all

2639
02:05:38,840 --> 02:05:40,840
Speaker 1: of them a bunch of times when you go one

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02:05:40,920 --> 02:05:42,800
Speaker 1: on one, particularly as a wide receiver, I'm going to

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02:05:42,840 --> 02:05:46,120
Speaker 1: see all the corners over and over again. So you

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02:05:46,280 --> 02:05:49,440
Speaker 1: get this thought where you've shown them about all your

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02:05:49,600 --> 02:05:54,400
Speaker 1: entire repertoire releases from the you know, rip into the

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02:05:54,640 --> 02:05:57,560
Speaker 1: hop hop shuffle and to all the stuff you can do.

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02:05:58,000 --> 02:05:59,560
Speaker 1: You've shown them all. So they've seen this, they know

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02:05:59,640 --> 02:06:02,320
Speaker 1: what they're gonna get with you. Um, it's fun to

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02:06:02,600 --> 02:06:04,360
Speaker 1: be able to go back and start fresh with a

2648
02:06:04,440 --> 02:06:06,600
Speaker 1: new guy that doesn't have any idea who you are,

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02:06:06,720 --> 02:06:10,080
Speaker 1: what you can do, and it's it's nice to see

2650
02:06:10,120 --> 02:06:13,520
Speaker 1: if you can, you know, go back and brush up

2651
02:06:13,560 --> 02:06:15,120
Speaker 1: on some moves you know have worked for you in

2652
02:06:15,160 --> 02:06:17,400
Speaker 1: the past and have some success against it. I've been

2653
02:06:17,440 --> 02:06:20,280
Speaker 1: thinking too about today's practice that might the receiver versus

2654
02:06:20,360 --> 02:06:24,160
Speaker 1: defensive back matchup might be where it might be where

2655
02:06:24,200 --> 02:06:27,400
Speaker 1: the sharpest competition was today. You know, they're not hitting linemen,

2656
02:06:27,480 --> 02:06:31,000
Speaker 1: are not hitting um, they're not bringing down running backs,

2657
02:06:31,040 --> 02:06:33,840
Speaker 1: are not tackling running backs. But when when you line up,

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02:06:33,880 --> 02:06:36,200
Speaker 1: whether it's an individual drill or seven on seven or

2659
02:06:36,200 --> 02:06:38,320
Speaker 1: even the teamwork, and you line up and you're across

2660
02:06:38,360 --> 02:06:40,400
Speaker 1: from somebody, it's you versus him. That's kind of the

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02:06:40,520 --> 02:06:42,640
Speaker 1: essence of that matchup. And it's yeah, and it's and

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02:06:42,760 --> 02:06:46,200
Speaker 1: it's what you see and hear while you're standing there

2663
02:06:46,280 --> 02:06:48,920
Speaker 1: watching as well, that this whole thing is about what

2664
02:06:49,000 --> 02:06:51,879
Speaker 1: happens between these guys ears, because they all have ability

2665
02:06:52,040 --> 02:06:53,760
Speaker 1: they bring to the table. They wouldn't they would not

2666
02:06:53,920 --> 02:06:55,960
Speaker 1: be signed to an NFL contract if they didn't bring

2667
02:06:56,040 --> 02:06:59,160
Speaker 1: the physical abilities it takes to play, because the guys

2668
02:06:59,200 --> 02:07:01,920
Speaker 1: who sign the contracts. I've seen guys with their physical

2669
02:07:01,960 --> 02:07:04,920
Speaker 1: abilities play extremely well. Now I don't mean you're going to,

2670
02:07:05,360 --> 02:07:08,280
Speaker 1: but a guy like you can, and they're gonna try

2671
02:07:08,280 --> 02:07:10,280
Speaker 1: and coach you up. So it's all about what happens

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02:07:10,320 --> 02:07:12,680
Speaker 1: between these guys ears, what they learn on the way there,

2673
02:07:13,000 --> 02:07:15,800
Speaker 1: what they bring to the table from their past, and

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02:07:16,400 --> 02:07:17,760
Speaker 1: and that's what this is all about. And that's why

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02:07:17,800 --> 02:07:20,280
Speaker 1: when you get against fresh guys, it's more a better

2676
02:07:20,400 --> 02:07:23,200
Speaker 1: chance to learn and a better chance to test what

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Speaker 1: you have learned in the past. All Right, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: take a break. Coming back. It's one Bill's Live from Spartanburg,

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Speaker 1: South Carolina. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. What do we

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Speaker 1: learn from today's show. We learned it's hot in August

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02:07:46,280 --> 02:07:50,320
Speaker 1: and South Carolina ninety five degrees right now. Captain Munterland

2682
02:07:50,400 --> 02:07:53,280
Speaker 1: was on the show. Buffalo Bill's Corner acquired on Saturday

2683
02:07:53,920 --> 02:07:56,280
Speaker 1: practice Sunday with the Bills off a Archard Park and

2684
02:07:56,560 --> 02:07:58,840
Speaker 1: was here today for this practice against his former team,

2685
02:07:58,840 --> 02:08:02,600
Speaker 1: the Carolina Fanthers. Captain Munderland gave us his first impressions

2686
02:08:02,640 --> 02:08:05,280
Speaker 1: of his new Bill's teammate in the chemistry on this team.

2687
02:08:06,840 --> 02:08:08,880
Speaker 1: That really building a great football team around here. You

2688
02:08:08,920 --> 02:08:11,160
Speaker 1: know if the person there that they got, the people

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Speaker 1: that they have, you know, it's great teammates. Man. Just

2690
02:08:14,280 --> 02:08:15,840
Speaker 1: to being around the guys for a couple of days,

2691
02:08:16,120 --> 02:08:17,720
Speaker 1: you know, you can tell, you know, it's a great

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02:08:17,720 --> 02:08:20,400
Speaker 1: atmosphere that they got in that building. And what they

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Speaker 1: what they want out of me, man, is this come

2694
02:08:22,480 --> 02:08:25,000
Speaker 1: in compete, be a leader that like I am. I

2695
02:08:25,000 --> 02:08:27,680
Speaker 1: don't want to step on nobody tolls or anythings like that,

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02:08:27,800 --> 02:08:29,240
Speaker 1: but uh, you know, we got a lot of young

2697
02:08:29,280 --> 02:08:31,480
Speaker 1: guys in the secondary, especially at the cornerback position and

2698
02:08:31,560 --> 02:08:33,640
Speaker 1: at the nickelback position. So they just want me to

2699
02:08:33,720 --> 02:08:35,880
Speaker 1: come in and you know, bring them under my wings.

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Speaker 1: And if it's you know, a competition. I told those

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02:08:38,840 --> 02:08:40,360
Speaker 1: guys when they first signed me, I would talk to

2702
02:08:40,440 --> 02:08:42,800
Speaker 1: the young guys. I said, listen, competition, bring out the

2703
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Speaker 1: best of everybody. Just make everybody better. It makes the

2704
02:08:45,280 --> 02:08:51,480
Speaker 1: team better. The voice sub experience from the cornerback captain Munderland.

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Speaker 1: We had Pete Meteller's on the show. We've been living

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Speaker 1: in this Carolina area for twenty five plus years after

2707
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Speaker 1: a long and distinguished career as a Bill's tight end,

2708
02:08:59,160 --> 02:09:01,080
Speaker 1: bounce around the lead. He's a tight and bounced around

2709
02:09:01,120 --> 02:09:03,560
Speaker 1: the league as a coach coaching high school football. Now,

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Speaker 1: Pete Mazillars kind of recounted his Bill's career and the

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Speaker 1: difference that was made in nineteen eighty six when the

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Speaker 1: Bills finally signed Jim Kelly to a contract, and then

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Speaker 1: when he stepped up to signing Jim and make that happen,

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Speaker 1: it was like, Ooh, he's getting in on this thing

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Speaker 1: and we got a chance. And it just kind of

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Speaker 1: built from there. As you know, they put the team

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Speaker 1: together and build drafted the players they got, they got

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Speaker 1: a chance to draft it, and you know, and it

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Speaker 1: just you saw the team start building and being put

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Speaker 1: together and stuff. And I think it was it was

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Speaker 1: Ralph's commitment to getting Jim Kelly there. Pete Metelar, your

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Speaker 1: former teammate, your buddy and our buddy. He's a good

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Speaker 1: good to kind of revisit the patch with him. We

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Speaker 1: got a guest tomorrow I'm really looking forward to. And

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Speaker 1: shout out to our producer Jay Harris. I'm blurted it

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Speaker 1: out on the show yesterday. Boom the guys in the

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Speaker 1: show Tomorrow. Sam Wisch, former Bills quarterbacks coach for one year,

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Speaker 1: but a great NFL head coach with Cincinnati, and he

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Speaker 1: bounced around a little Bill Coach of the Year nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty eight. He was part of the team that beat us,

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Speaker 1: beat the Buffalo Bills in the championship game in Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: and went on to almost here without except for one drive.

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Speaker 1: Gave Joe Montana a chance to be a hero, and

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Speaker 1: he lost the Super Bowl to Joe Montana and the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers back in the eight nineteen eighty eight.

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Speaker 1: So he'll be on with us because which lives down

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Speaker 1: the road and Pickens, South Carolina. He's lived here for

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Speaker 1: years and he's gonna make the trek over here tomorrow

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Speaker 1: one o'clock to be with us. Also a guy you're

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Speaker 1: doing your homework, Sam Acho is going to join his

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Speaker 1: brand new Buffalo Bills defensive end. Right. Yeah, he's a

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Speaker 1: articulate guy who's gonna be fun to talk to him.

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Speaker 1: Went University of Texas and he's a brand new Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get a chance to talk tomorrow. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: hear enjoy hearing from him. We'll be right here tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be warmer tomorrow. Is that possible? Production Assistant

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Speaker 1: George Blast, Jeff Coltnick Thomas, Honalder, Kelly Rude, jj Urito,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Cartis, James Robello, Producer Jay Harris. We'll see tomorrow noon,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna cool off. Take four or five showers between

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Speaker 1: now and noon tomorrow. Join us tomorrow. One Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill Radio.