1 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites presented by Draftings. 2 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: The Crown is yours. 3 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: We are an Action Network podcast and I have apparently 4 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: been talking too much so far in the year twenty 5 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: twenty six. I'm your host, Brandon Kravitz, back at it 6 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: with partials of the crew. The first lady of the pod, 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: Kenja Middleton. We could not drag the Prime Minister of 8 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: Dgen Nation, Stucky out of his March Madness celebrations, A 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: Christmas like day for our friends Stucky. I have put 10 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: something together for the occasion, but no surprise here. I 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: woke up genuinely happy. Not just because it's NCAA tournament 12 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: time and this is such a fun time of the year, 13 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: but Stucky, being one of our besties and the third 14 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: leg of this pod, I just know how much this 15 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: day means to him. He left out bourbon and cookies 16 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 1: for the March Madness Gods. Very happy for our brother. 17 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 3: I am very happy for him as well. 18 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 4: I probably would have left them out for j Billis, 19 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 4: but that's just me. 20 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: So I have curated Hendra Middleton's tweets about the tournament, 21 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: some retweets, but the theme is the same. I want 22 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: to read some of these and then get your explanation. 23 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: You can just go. I'll just go one by one. 24 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: So and says shout out to all the teachers who 25 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: will let their students watch March Madness during class. I 26 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: don't remember much of what I learned, but I will 27 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: always remember the teachers who let me watch the tournament. 28 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 4: Yes, I will always, always always remember Missus Robinson shout 29 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 4: out my goat. 30 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: I feel like. 31 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 4: Whenever they would roll out the TV was just because 32 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 4: they were hungover, but it wasn't often. I feel like 33 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 4: there were teachers who actually cared about the tournament, so 34 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,919 Speaker 4: when you had one, it was very special. 35 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, for sure. It was people who like. 36 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: The sports schools, I feel like they cared. 37 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: Or people that well, I don't know. 38 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 1: In my school, my experience was more so it was 39 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: the teacher that wanted to be the fun teacher, or 40 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: one that didn't actually concern themselves with teaching anything. I 41 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: think they were just collecting a check and they would 42 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 1: just roll the they would roll the big TV thing 43 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: out there. It was a marketing class, I think it was. 44 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: I don't remember a single thing that I learned, but 45 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: I remember watching the Tyson Holyfield fight in a marketing 46 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: class and a lot of march madness for sure. 47 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: All right, next one, I was. 48 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 3: Gonna say something traumatizing, but we can move on. 49 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 2: Is it about biting years off? 50 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 3: No, I was gonna say, I don't know. I mean, 51 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 3: I know why I thought of this. 52 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 4: But one of my dad's favorite stories to tell me 53 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 4: when I was a kid was that he remembers going 54 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 4: outside because we live he grew up in Jacksonville, obviously, 55 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 4: and it's so close to like some of the NASA 56 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 4: stuff that he remembers, like his teacher pulling him outside 57 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 4: and then watching the challenger blow up. 58 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll stick with you. 59 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: This one here says before we do this, a not 60 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: so friendly a reminder that you get one bracket and 61 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: one bracket only nobody gives a fuck about how your 62 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: thirteenth bracket is doing. 63 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: Yes, I stand on that. 64 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 4: I got so many, like twenty seven bracket haters in 65 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 4: my comments calling me the bracket police. But obviously you're 66 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 4: the more brackets you build, the more accurate one of 67 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 4: them is going to be. 68 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 3: And it's like, if you build that many, I don't. 69 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 4: Care how your best bracket is doing because you didn't 70 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 4: stand on business and I don't respect people who don't 71 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 4: stand on business. 72 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you one thousand percent. I think you 73 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: can build as many brackets as you want, but you 74 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: can only talk about one. 75 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: There's just that one that you marry yourself to. 76 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: I'm still catching shit, by the way, you're talking about 77 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: my bracket mistresses off the beaten path. 78 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: Slightly because it is the time of the year. 79 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: Uh, Eastern candy is the most elite candy holiday. I 80 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: will die on this. Hell, what are you talking about? 81 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: How do you I'm going to disrespect Halloween like. 82 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 4: This because Halloween doesn't have like anything really special. You 83 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 4: can't tell me that the eases reesar Reese's Easter eggs 84 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 4: don't taste better than the normal ones. We get the 85 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 4: Cadbury eggs. You get the starbars jelly beans, which I'm 86 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 4: allergic to now. And it is the biggest downfall of 87 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 4: my entire life. 88 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 2: I just want so much. 89 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: I just want you to know that if you say 90 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: the word peep, I will end the podcast. 91 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: No, I hate peeps. 92 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 4: They're disgusting, disgusting, but I will say I know that 93 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 4: I think about it, would would consider a peep's. 94 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: Some moore and it would be a colorful s'more on 95 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: top of that. But I do think that peeps perhaps 96 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: are a gift from the hells. 97 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 2: Uh. 98 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: This one was a meme that you shared how it 99 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: feels to post your bracket on the internet. I showed 100 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: you my trash. Please respond with a nice cute picture 101 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: of a possum. That is how it feels like it 102 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: almost feels for us that are in the sports media, 103 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: especially like there's this obligatory need to share your bracket, 104 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: like it's almost like a requirement of the jet and 105 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: it's it doesn't even matter if you're a college basketball person. 106 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: In fact, I think it's more important to share it 107 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: if you're not, just so people can see what those 108 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 1: who swoop in like Spider Man chasing a mugger, like 109 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: what we all think this time of year. 110 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,679 Speaker 4: I had a top one hundred bracket in twenty fifteen, 111 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 4: and I'll never. 112 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: Ride that high high again. Your kid has McNeese, right, yees? 113 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: So I actually I tweeted it wrong. 114 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: I had to think, thank you for to Elon for 115 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: allowing us to edit these things now because I. 116 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 2: Originally wrote Furman. 117 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: He does have Furman winning in Round one against Yukon 118 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,119 Speaker 1: but then had usf dusting Furman in the next round 119 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: or no, that was actually into the sweet sixteam. 120 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: Well, he's got firm been winning a couple that's why. 121 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 3: What was the logic here? Was there any so? 122 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: Mind you, he's six. 123 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: This is the first time that we have filled out 124 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: a bracket, uh, and I, and he was very excited 125 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: to do So. The issue is is that keeping a 126 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: six year old's attention to fill out filling out a 127 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: bracket is time consuming and it's overwhelming. And I got 128 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: through about four matchups before he started to walk away 129 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: and was completely disinterested. But I know that he's going 130 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: to want to keep track of this, so I tried 131 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: to bring him back, bring him back to center here. 132 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: And so I told him, is he just started picking 133 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: the higher nut where the lower numbers. I said, yeah, 134 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: one is really good, sixteen is really bad. So he 135 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: just started picking the better team. I said, you're gonna 136 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: want to pick some upsets in there, because not all 137 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: the better team isn't always going to win. So he said, okay, 138 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick six bad teams. Okay, So then he 139 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: just went in a row the next six higher seeded 140 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: teams or lower seated teams. I always fucked that up. 141 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: He just picked them straight down the board, so it 142 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: went like North Dakota State Furman McNeice, Troy penn All 143 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: pushed through. So the left side of his bracket is 144 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: gonna be a disaster. Now, the right side much more chalky. 145 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: But what we wound up with was a final four 146 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: of South Florida McNeice, BYU and Texas Tech. I think 147 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: he might be the only person on the planet with 148 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: that final four. 149 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: We shall see. Way said, it's a crab shoot. 150 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 4: The way you described it reminds me of Monsters, Inc. 151 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 4: When Sully is like throwing pieces of cheerios at Boo 152 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 4: to get her to do stuff. 153 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly exactly that. I was like, all right, let's 154 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: just let's just focus. And this would have been such 155 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: good social media content. At least you would think that 156 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: putting a bracket together with a six year old, my 157 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: kid's cute. Those six year olds, are it? You would 158 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,679 Speaker 1: think that this would make for really good video content. 159 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: Not so much. 160 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: This would have been a disaster. It was more of 161 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: a struggle than it was adorable. So this one's just 162 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: gonna live in my overy bank. 163 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 4: You know, usually I tweeted this as well. The girlfriends 164 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 4: who make a bracket against our boyfriend and pick based 165 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 4: off of colors and mascots usually kick ass. 166 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: So who's to. 167 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: Say, yeah, exactly, My wife kicks my ass all the time. 168 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we have a great guess to get too. 169 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm excited about this one. 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The Raiders have had quite 190 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: the busy offseason, potentially the most significant move still to 191 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: come in the NFL Draft. What have you thought so 192 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: far about their bevy of moves to improve around what 193 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: we assume to be a Fernando Mendoza led team. 194 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think for the first time in 195 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 6: a long time, I really feel positively about the direction 196 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 6: the Raiders are going, starting with hiring Clint Kubiak, who 197 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 6: I thought was probably the second best candidate. I really 198 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 6: like Jesse Minter, but every time the Raiders hired a 199 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 6: head coach you really had to like Squint to try 200 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 6: to be positive about it because it was this guys 201 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 6: that not a lot of people wanted. So I think 202 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 6: for the first time, you know, being able to hire 203 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 6: the hottest offensive play caller in the cycle was big. 204 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 6: They had a ton of money they had to spend 205 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 6: because that they had cap space, and they had to 206 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 6: reach a certain spending floor just because they didn't have 207 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 6: enough good players to pay so they had to hit 208 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 6: that spending floor. I thought they did a good job 209 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 6: of adding players that they needed, like Tyler Lindenbaum, even 210 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 6: though he reset it, that reset the center market by 211 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 6: a large Martin margin. I look at him more as 212 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 6: just like an interior, a ligneman and the highest paid guard. 213 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 6: He is getting paid twenty four mil per year. He's 214 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 6: getting paid twenty seven mil per year. So you look 215 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,599 Speaker 6: at it like that. It's not as big of a 216 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 6: jump as people are making out to be. And I 217 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 6: think just having that center and somebody to set protections 218 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 6: and things like that is going to do wonders. 219 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 5: For Fernando Mendoza. 220 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 6: They added a couple pieces on defense like quick Kay Walker, 221 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 6: Nikobe Dean, So I don't know if this is a 222 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 6: I don't think this is a playoff team all of 223 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 6: a sudden, But I like that they added young players 224 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 6: and a very solid foundation, and they're ready for Fernando 225 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 6: Mendoza to come in. I think they have the tools 226 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 6: to support him. 227 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 4: The biggest story of the offseason has obviously been this. 228 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 3: Max Crosby situation. 229 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 4: What were what was your initial reaction and how do 230 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 4: you feel about it? Since everything has kind of cooled 231 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 4: down and you've had some time to think about it. 232 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think the Raiders never wanted to 233 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 6: trade Max Crosby. I think Crosby made his request to 234 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 6: get traded privately. They kept it under wraps. They didn't 235 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 6: he didn't come out and say I wanted to get traded, 236 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 6: but it was something that the Raiders never really wants 237 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 6: to do, and they were only going to do it 238 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 6: they got two first round draft picks. The Baltimore Ravens 239 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 6: were the first team to offer two first round picks. 240 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 6: That trade got agreed on, and then some weird things 241 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:16,599 Speaker 6: happen and like for some reason, stuff like this only happens. 242 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 5: To the Raiders. 243 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,359 Speaker 6: You know, I've never seen a trade of this magnitude 244 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 6: get rescinded, and it just felt like the Ravens had 245 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 6: cold feet. Max Crosby talked about it on his podcast. 246 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 6: How when he got there, they flew h him two 247 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 6: hours away on a normal plane, not a private jet, 248 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 6: and he had to drive two hours to get to Baltimore. 249 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 6: The GM didn't stay hi to him for five hours. 250 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 6: He had a cold introduction to Jesse Minter, and then 251 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 6: all of a sudden they told him they weren't going 252 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 6: to do the trade, so it just felt like they 253 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 6: got cold feet knowing that they get Trey Hendrickson and 254 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 6: then not having to trade those two first round picks away. 255 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 5: But for the Raiders, it's not a bad thing. 256 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, you get one of the best 257 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 6: edge rushers in the league to add to all the 258 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 6: new pieces you add on defense. And I think Crosby 259 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 6: is just a fantastic leader for a rebuild because he's 260 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 6: worked so hard. He sets that culture floor every single day. 261 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: It seems like Raiders fans went through the Sorry Kendra, 262 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: all the stages of grief throughout that that Max Crosby deal, 263 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: Like they were sad to see him go, and they 264 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: were excited about the picks, and then then the picks 265 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: get taken away. Where are Raider fans on all of this, 266 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: because this is a weird part in the rebuild. Yes, 267 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: it's exciting to have Max Crosby still in the roster, 268 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: but him leaving was gonna help expedite. 269 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: What they're trying to do in the future. 270 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure. 271 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 6: I mean they originally they were in denial after that 272 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 6: Jake Laser report during the Super Bowl that Crosby was 273 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 6: done with the Raiders, and then and then they learned 274 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 6: that they could get two first round picks, so they 275 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 6: get excited about it. And then you know, it just 276 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 6: felt like this was the right move to make at 277 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 6: that time, and then that huge news drop just happened 278 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 6: in the middle. I think it was a Thursday where 279 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 6: the trade got rescinded and then Crosby comes back, and 280 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 6: then you're still not sure does Crosby still get traded 281 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 6: after this happened. But then Crosby makes the announcement that 282 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 6: he's all in with the Raiders, and I think most fans. 283 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 5: Are are good with it. 284 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, he's an iconic Raider, and to 285 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 6: have him in the rebuild it is not It's not 286 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 6: a bad. 287 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 5: Thing for sure. 288 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 3: Do you think he's definitely going to be a Raider 289 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 3: next season? 290 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 6: I would say you should never say never, but it 291 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 6: seems like it's head in that direction. I think if 292 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 6: a team comes out and offers the Raiders two first 293 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 6: round picks because they're really desperate for an edge rusher, 294 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 6: I think it'd be tempting for them to pull the trigger. 295 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 6: But just based on the comments from spy Tech and Kubiak, 296 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 6: it seems like they want him to be a part 297 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 6: of this rebuild. 298 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the number one overall pick, 299 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza. What have you learned about him as you've 300 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: dissected the film? This is your specialty, his elite traits, 301 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: the things that are perhaps things that make him someone 302 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: that in a more loaded class, he wouldn't be the 303 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: number one overall pick. 304 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: What do you see when you look at the Mendoza film. 305 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, when I broke down the Mendoza film, I saw 306 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 6: a different quarterback that I thought I was going to see. 307 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 6: To me, he's even more traitsy than I thought. You know, 308 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 6: I think when you first hear about Mendoza, you think 309 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 6: he's just like this really cerebral quarterback that's pro ready. 310 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 6: But when you watch him, he has a much stronger 311 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 6: arm than people think. It's not like in that Josh 312 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 6: Allen tier, but he's a tier right below it. He 313 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 6: can make all the throws. He's an excellent deep ball 314 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 6: throw over, extremely accurate. But I think there is some 315 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 6: development that he needs to needs to make in the league. 316 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 6: Part of the reason why, you know, I think there's 317 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 6: some hesitation. There's some throws that you want to see 318 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 6: him rip that he just didn't quite do at Indiana 319 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 6: in the beginning of the season, but he. 320 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 5: Did get much better as a season progressed. 321 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 6: And I did talk to his quarterback coach, Tyson Chandler Whitmer, 322 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 6: who is now the Buccaneers quarterbacks coach, but he said, 323 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 6: you know, he was learning a new offense going from 324 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 6: cal to Indiana. They were reteaching him footwork, reteaching him 325 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 6: how to replays. So it took a little bit of 326 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 6: time and you could see that progression happen during the 327 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 6: season in but there's still times that we could to 328 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 6: hold onto the ball. So to me, I think Mendoza 329 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 6: is a more trait cy quarterback than people give him 330 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 6: credit for. But he has a little bit development to go. 331 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 6: But I do think he's worthy of a number one pick. 332 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 6: I think if he was in last year's draft, he 333 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 6: would be one A, one B with cam Ward, depending 334 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 6: on what scheme you want to run. If he was 335 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 6: in a year before that, with Caleb Williams and those guys, 336 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 6: I would say he would be number four after Caleb Williams, 337 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 6: Drake May and Jaden Daniels. But I still think he's 338 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 6: a strong prospect, and the Raiders will be glad to 339 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 6: be able to draft number one. 340 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: Our main role on this show is to deliver Betts 341 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: every single week of the NFL season. Prior to the 342 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: season starting looking at the win totals market, so we're 343 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: very focused on what's next and not Bernando Mendoza being 344 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: good three years from now doesn't really do our listeners 345 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: any good. Do you think that he can be a 346 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: rock solid quarterback year one based on the infrastructure that 347 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: they have around him and what you have seen when 348 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: you've watched his film. I know it's a tough question 349 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: to answer because they're so volatile with these rookies, but 350 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: do you see somebody that can step in and have 351 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: success right away? 352 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 6: Actually, Tom Brady has talked a ton about believing that 353 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 6: a rookie quarterback should sit in his first year, and 354 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 6: then John Spytek at the Combine said the same thing. 355 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 6: So I really don't think that he's going to play 356 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 6: right away. But teams say this all the time and 357 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 6: end up starting that number one pick eventually. But I 358 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 6: do believe that they are going to be intentional in 359 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 6: trying to get a veteran quarterback to start right off 360 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 6: the bat and maybe at some point Mendoza takes over, 361 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 6: maybe after the bye week, But I think if they 362 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 6: could have it their way, they would have him sit 363 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 6: the entire his entire rookie year, and I think Kirk 364 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 6: Cousins or Joe Flacco would be that bridge quarterback. But 365 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 6: I wouldn't be surprised if Mendoza doesn't play until late 366 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 6: in the year. 367 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 4: I want to piggyback off of the upcoming rookie quarterback class. 368 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 4: What have you seen from ty Simpson's film and who 369 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 4: do you think might be the best or most realistic 370 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 4: fit for him? 371 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think with Ty Simpson, if you watch his 372 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 6: first eight games, he looks like a first round quarterback. 373 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 6: Made a lot of aggressive, really highly accurate throws playing 374 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 6: in a pro style type of system. But they're are 375 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 6: a couple of huge red flags. The red one red 376 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 6: flag being he doesn't have a ton of experience, only 377 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 6: fifteen games fifteen starts in his college career, and as 378 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 6: we've seen, college prospects with that little experience have struggled 379 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,239 Speaker 6: coming into the league. And typically when you have a 380 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 6: prospect with that little experience, they have these really high 381 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 6: end traits that you're willing to bet on. But Ty 382 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 6: Simpson is not that he doesn't have that elite arm. 383 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 6: He's not a super mobile quarterback. Also, his size is 384 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 6: a big concern too. He's six two hundred and fifteen 385 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 6: pounds and in the last twenty years, there's only been 386 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 6: six quarterbacks that have started over forty games at that size, 387 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 6: and that number includes Drew brees Kyler, Murray. 388 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 5: Bryce Young, who you know who. 389 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 6: Size is a concern in this league still, So those 390 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 6: are those are two big red flags. And the fact 391 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 6: that his play really tailed off towards the end of 392 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 6: the year was a concern as well. So see him 393 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 6: more as a second third round pick. But I think 394 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 6: an excellent place for him to be what would be 395 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 6: the Cardinals. I think that offense really fits his skill set. 396 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 6: Maybe with the Rams that they want to sit him 397 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 6: and let him play behind Matthew Stafford and give him 398 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 6: a chance to take over after Stafford retires. 399 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 4: So they Kravit said, we're a gambling show, obviously, and 400 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 4: I loved Garrett nass Meyer heading into last year that 401 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 4: obviously didn't turn. 402 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 3: Out so well. 403 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 4: But with so few quarterbacks and good quarterbacks at that 404 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 4: could you see him moving up just due to demand, 405 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 4: kind of like Jackson Dart last year. 406 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 5: I really liked Nesmyer too. 407 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 6: I think this year you kind of have to just 408 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 6: throw that out of memory banks because of the injuries. 409 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 6: But he really reminded everybody how good he is at 410 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 6: the Senior Bowl. He looked like, by far the best 411 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 6: quarterback there. Showed off those traits that really got him 412 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 6: a lot of first round buzz the year before. So 413 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 6: I could see, you know, like I honestly would draft 414 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 6: him over Ty Simpson. 415 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: Wow. 416 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I really liked him year before. 417 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: This year. 418 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 6: You know, obviously there was injuries and there was questions 419 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 6: when he did play that I just felt like, you know, 420 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 6: the injuries were too much to overcome. But I like 421 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 6: what he offers a lot. He's an aggressive thrower, you know. 422 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 6: He again he doesn't have an elite arm, but I 423 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 6: think he has a pretty good arm. 424 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 5: So I like Nusamar. 425 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: Is there anybody else that you have fallen in love 426 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: with the Carson Becks of the world. Is there somebody 427 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: else that you would trumpet like you are with nuss Meyer. 428 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 6: You know, I haven't dug that far into the other 429 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 6: quarterbacks yet. I've only seen my top three so far, 430 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 6: so I'll have to get back to you with that answer. 431 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: So we we broke down the news. By the way, 432 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: cash the ticket, I'm about to mention the Dolphins. The 433 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: Broncos gave up a first round pick and a third 434 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: round pick in order to bring in Jalen Waddle. The 435 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:02,239 Speaker 1: Dolphins continue their reb old on the fly. Let's talk 436 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: about this from a Broncos angle. How good of a 437 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: scheme fit is this for Sean Payton? What did you 438 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: think of the move? 439 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 5: I loved it. 440 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 6: For the Broncos, I feel like this this is time 441 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 6: to go all in. Bo Nicks showed signs of becoming 442 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 6: that franchise quarterback, so this is a great time to 443 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 6: get him another receiver. Corton Sutton is that big X 444 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 6: receiver that is. I guess it's arguable arguable whether he's 445 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 6: a true number one or not, but I feel like 446 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 6: pairing up with Waddell, who's a deep threat, who's a 447 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 6: great yak guy, really compliments his game really well and 448 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 6: he runs a lot of the same routes that Sean 449 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 6: Payton's likes to call. So I love this fit and 450 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 6: I think it really takes the Broncos to another level. 451 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 5: I think their off season was. 452 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 6: A little bit disappointing up to this point, but when 453 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 6: you add in this big swing, I think it really 454 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 6: puts them into championship contention. 455 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 4: I cover the Patriots up here in Boston, and the A. J. 456 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 4: Brown love up here has spread like wildfire. Do you 457 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 4: think that the Wattle trade kind of changed the market 458 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 4: a bit of what the expectation should be to get 459 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 4: AJ Brown on a team. 460 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 6: I mean, I think that it definitely reinforced what the 461 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 6: Eagles wanted. I think the Eagles wanted a first round 462 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 6: and second round pick for Jalen Wattle, and maybe some 463 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 6: teams were trying to negotiate around that. 464 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 5: But once Wattle. 465 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 6: Went for a first and a third, I think the Eagles, 466 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 6: you know, it justified the Eagles asking price even more. 467 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 6: Like you know, if Wattle went for that, A J. 468 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 6: Brown to me is a tier above Wattle, you know. 469 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 6: I think for the Patriots, I think it makes sense 470 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 6: for them to get this type of move. I mean, 471 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 6: they went to the Super Bowl last year in Drake 472 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 6: May's second year as a pro, and if you and 473 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 6: he really didn't have a really elite weapon on offense 474 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 6: to help him out and when you add aj Brown 475 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 6: to this offense, or if they add a J Brown offense, 476 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 6: it just takes them to another level. 477 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: We've had some debate as to whether or not this 478 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: Mike Evans move for the San Francisco forty nine ers 479 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: was a positive one for them. 480 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 2: He's a big name. 481 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: He's put together a Hall of Fame level career, but 482 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: we finally saw him not get to that one thousand 483 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: yard mark due to injuries. Injuries are always the thing 484 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: that plagues the San Francisco forty nine ers, whether that's 485 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: just happenstance or power plant, whatever it is, that is 486 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: a problem. He's aging, but he's still great when he's 487 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: at his best. Do you like this move for him 488 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: to end his career somewhere else and for the San 489 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers, Yeah. 490 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 5: I mean, on paper, I love this move. 491 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 6: The Niners in the last three years faced the highest 492 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 6: percentage of loaded boxes in the league because that run 493 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:49,479 Speaker 6: games of dangerous. 494 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 5: They took a bit of a step. 495 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 6: Back last year, but Kyle Shanahan won of the best 496 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 6: run game schemers in the league. Chrisian McCaffrey still a 497 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 6: very dangerous running back, so teams want to stop them, 498 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 6: and when you add Mike Evans to this, you can't 499 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 6: load the box as much as you want to against 500 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 6: the Niners because he's still very good at punishing one 501 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 6: on one coverage. To me, this is similar to what 502 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 6: DeVante Adams did for the Rams last year. You know 503 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 6: where you can't play him one on one or else 504 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 6: you get burned. I think he adds a lot to 505 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 6: their red zone offense, and I think they struggled at 506 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 6: times in a red zone last year, so I like 507 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 6: this move. But yeah, you're right, injuries are concerned. That 508 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,959 Speaker 6: hamstring has always kind of bothered him, so we will 509 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 6: see if you can stay in the field. But I 510 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 6: think with the Niners you could say that about a 511 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 6: lot of their players. 512 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 5: So I think if things. 513 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 6: All break in the right direction, then they could be 514 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 6: a dangerous team. 515 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 5: But I like this move on paper. 516 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 4: Speaking of this kind of wide receiver craziness, what was 517 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 4: your reaction to the Alec piercedel. 518 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 5: It's a lot of money. 519 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 6: I mean I thought it was going to be somewhere 520 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 6: near thirty million dollars, but still when you see that 521 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 6: deal get done, it is a lot of money for 522 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 6: a receiver that. 523 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 5: I wouldn't say. 524 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 6: He's a one trick pony, but he is. His ability 525 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 6: to get deep is the main way he wins. 526 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 5: But he did at a high level. He hit a 527 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 5: thousand yard season. 528 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 6: A lot of teams are trying to bid for him, 529 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 6: but I do think there's another level to his game 530 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 6: that he can take. And obviously the Colts field that 531 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 6: way too. They're betting on him growing into a better 532 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 6: all around receiver. But he was in demand and he 533 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 6: you know, he's able to stay home, so is. 534 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 2: A win win. 535 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray went to the land where quarterback careers are 536 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 1: rebuilt as Kevin O'Connell. It's either Sean McVay or it's KOC. 537 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: What'd you think of the move for Kyler Murray? Do 538 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: you think this can work? And how happy is Justin 539 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: Jefferson today that he doesn't have to catch passes from 540 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy. 541 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I love this move. 542 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 6: I think Justin Jefferson is probably a static I think 543 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 6: last year he was a team player, you know, kept 544 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 6: his head down, didn't complain about all the bad passes 545 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 6: that were being thrown his way or passes that weren't 546 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,479 Speaker 6: being thrown his way. But I think this is one 547 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 6: of the most impactful signings of this whole offseason. I 548 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 6: mean to get Kyler Murray for the veteran minimum into 549 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 6: a team that, you know, almost made the playoffs with 550 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 6: one of the worst quarterbacks in the league last season, 551 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 6: and it's kind of confused. 552 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 5: I get Kyler. 553 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 6: Murray didn't live up to the number one pick expectations, 554 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 6: but people talk about him like he sucks, but like 555 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 6: he's at least been above average quarterback for a long time, 556 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 6: and you know, he can make all the throws. And 557 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,479 Speaker 6: when you watch this film, a lot of the plays 558 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 6: that he's good at executing in the past game are 559 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 6: a lot of the plays that Kevin O'Connell likes to call. 560 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 6: And yeah, he scrambles a lot more than any quarterback 561 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 6: Cam O'Connell has had, but he. 562 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 5: Throws a great deep ball. He could hit those. 563 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 6: Big crossing routes. He's one of the best corner route 564 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 6: the rowers in the league. And O'Connell loves to throw 565 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 6: those smash concepts. 566 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 5: So I see this. 567 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 6: As a really nice fit, and you know, I think 568 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 6: it's one of the more impactful signings of the entire offseason. 569 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 4: I have a two part question for you. So, as 570 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 4: Kravitz mentioned, he's a Dolphins fan. I was born and 571 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 4: raised in Jacksonville, Florida, so I'm a diehard Jags fan. 572 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 4: There's been some rumors going around that Devon a change 573 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 4: might be on the market, especially in a trade with Jacksonville. 574 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 3: How do you feel about that? 575 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 4: And additionally, the ETN coming out saying the a Chan thing, 576 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 4: so the Chan a Chan replacement. Do you think that 577 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 4: it should be on the player to kind of correct 578 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 4: the media with their names or do you think that 579 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 4: the media should have more responsibility in that. I know 580 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 4: that that's a crazy two part question, but they go 581 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 4: hand in hand with the Age Tan potential replacement. 582 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 5: Yeah. 583 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 6: I'm actually terrible with names, and I'll like look up 584 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,719 Speaker 6: a name and try to get the pronunciation right before 585 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 6: like doing a podcast or things like that, but I'll 586 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 6: inevitably mess up. So I would say that there is 587 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 6: responsiblit from the media to get it right. And I'm like, 588 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 6: you know, that's one of my huge sticking points that 589 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 6: I'm trying to get better at. But there are some 590 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 6: names that you just won't know how to pronounce correctly 591 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 6: unless the player comes out and lets you know. So 592 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 6: I think for players that have those type of names, 593 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 6: they should go out and let everybody know how to 594 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 6: pronounce their name so people don't mispronounce a name for 595 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 6: you know, three four years straight until they finally get 596 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 6: it correct. 597 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 2: Is we need to know this information when you're a rookie. 598 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: I don't think you can change the pronounces exactly of 599 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: your name after your rookie season. 600 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, and and my name actually, you know, people get 601 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 6: get it wrong a lot. 602 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 5: People think it's no when, but it's actually pronounced when. 603 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 6: But yeah, you know, people think I should rename my 604 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 6: podcast it just Win Podcasts, just so people could get 605 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 6: that pronunciation down. 606 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 5: It's kind of clever. 607 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 6: But you know, I think there's been just too much 608 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 6: branding at this point. But yeah, back to a Chan 609 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 6: to Jacksonville. I mean, if they get that trade done, 610 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 6: I mean that's huge. I think Tuton has some potential 611 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 6: and I liked him a lot last year. Explosive running back, 612 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 6: but I mean a chance is like he's one of 613 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 6: the best in the league. Adds a whole another dynamic 614 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 6: to that to that running game, and he's also a 615 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 6: great receiver. And I love what Liam Cohen does as 616 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 6: the offensive coordinator, and he would be extremely productive in 617 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 6: that system. But I don't know what you would give 618 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 6: up to him, give up for him. I mean, I 619 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 6: would think the Dolphins would want a first round pick, 620 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 6: but that's expensive aspect. 621 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 3: Running back when they just gave up Etn. 622 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 6: For But but maybe I don't know, maybe they could 623 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 6: offer BTJ in a trade and make a package, create 624 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 6: a package that way. 625 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 4: Not Conj's not going anywhere. 626 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 2: I kind of like this. I like where Ted's going 627 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: with this. 628 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 3: J's not going anywhere. 629 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 6: I heard from a good source that Jacksonville did offer 630 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 6: BTGA in a package for Max Crosby. 631 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 4: Though I did hear that as well, and that's the 632 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 4: only thing that I'm okay with. But basically what I've 633 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 4: heard is just at this point, unless it's an offer 634 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 4: that really blows them away because of the way he 635 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 4: finished out the second half of the season, there's there's 636 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 4: it's really not gonna happen. 637 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 3: But what do I know. I don't know about fuck. 638 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: Okay, Hey, Ted, let's finish where we started. The Max 639 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: Crosby deal that went sideways. He's back with the Raiders. Well, 640 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: the Ravens still got an elite edge rusher in Trey Hendrickson. 641 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: Do you think they made out like bandits in this 642 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: where they didn't need to give out up those that 643 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: draft capital and still got an elite edge rusher. Do 644 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: you see enough of a difference between Crosby and Hendrickson 645 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: where if the Ravens goals to win a Super Bowl 646 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: and they lost the optimal potential to do that by 647 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: not having the better player, how do you see that 648 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,959 Speaker 1: the differentiation between Crosby and Hendrickson with the picks included. 649 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 6: Of course, Yeah, The funny thing is they gave Hendrickson 650 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 6: the exact same contract that Max Crosby got, which adds 651 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 6: a little smoke to that fire too. But Trey Hendrickson 652 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 6: is a better pure pass rusher than Max Crosby, but 653 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 6: he is a legitimately bad run defender, whereas Max Crosby 654 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 6: is one of the best run defending edges in the league. 655 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 6: And to run that jesse Mentor system where you're gonna 656 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 6: play a ton of too high, you need defensive linemen 657 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 6: that could defend the run because you're not putting that 658 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 6: extra safety in the box. And that's why Max Crosby 659 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 6: was so valuable to mentor. But since you're not gonna 660 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 6: have that with Hendrickson, who is a negative in run defense, 661 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 6: they're gonna have to find other defense of linemen that 662 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 6: can hold up against the run, especially that second edge position. 663 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 6: Maybe they signed Clowney who was a raven before, who 664 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 6: is still a very good run defender, but they're going 665 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 6: to have to find other defenders that can play that 666 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 6: light box because Hendrickson is not that guy. 667 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 2: High Ted Winn. 668 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: You can find all of his work at Theathletic dot 669 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: com and check out the Just Win podcast. 670 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 2: Ted, thanks so much for hanging out with us today. 671 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 2: We appreciate it. 672 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks for having me on. 673 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: Phenomenal stuff from Ted Winn. 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