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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Elson Hass is a longtime philosopher, teacher, and integrative

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Speaker 2: family physician. In nineteen eighty four, he founded still directs

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Speaker 2: one of the first integrative medical clinics in the United States,

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Speaker 2: the Preventative Medical Center of Marin in northern California. Doctor

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Speaker 2: Elson is the author of a number of popular books,

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Speaker 2: including the groundbreaking first book Staying Healthy with the Seasons,

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Speaker 2: his most recent Staying Healthy with New Medicine, a pioneering

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Speaker 2: evolving modern day medical approaches to healing. Doctor Elson is

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Speaker 2: one of the first doctors to integrate ancient Eastern healing

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Speaker 2: traditions with the modern Western medical practices remarkable. He offers

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Speaker 2: a variety of online courses. We'll tell you about some

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Speaker 2: of them available to you as his popular Detox in

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Speaker 2: Spring cleansing groups, weight management, and his new program holds

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Speaker 2: Self Detox. Doctor Elson Hass Back on Coast to Coast

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Speaker 2: Nelson always a pleasure, Welcome, well, thank you.

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Speaker 3: George's great to be with you again, going away from Detroit.

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Speaker 3: But oh yeah, we need. We need peace more than

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Speaker 3: ever now.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, we really do. And I have a

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Speaker 2: feeling by the time people wake up in the morning,

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Speaker 2: we could have a mess in the Middle East.

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Speaker 3: Elson, Well, sorry, kind of messy the second the news.

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Speaker 3: I try not to watch the news too much because

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Speaker 3: it stresses my mind and my heart. But you got

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Speaker 3: to pay attention to what's happening.

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Speaker 2: How did you get involved in this new type of

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Speaker 2: integrative medicine.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I went through medical school in Annaburg, Michigan. Came

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Speaker 3: out to California in seventy two. You know, the times

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Speaker 3: they were changing, and I got interested in learning about

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Speaker 3: health and healing. I started with myself. I did a

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Speaker 3: ten days juice cleans. I was introduced to that by

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Speaker 3: a man who wrote a book called The Master Cleans.

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Speaker 3: And I did ten days and drop twenty pounds. My

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Speaker 3: allergies cleared up. On the third day, I had more energy,

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Speaker 3: less sleep, and I felt like a new person. I said, Wow,

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Speaker 3: this is how I want to feel. And I started

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Speaker 3: to eat differently, and I started exercise and get myself

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Speaker 3: in shape, and you know, the whole change in lifestyle,

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Speaker 3: and you know, I kind of gave up certain food

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Speaker 3: that gave up red meats then, and I just started

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Speaker 3: eating clean more cleanly, and studying herbs and Chinese medicine

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Speaker 3: and saying, hey, there's value in all these systems that

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Speaker 3: you know. I've been around a lot longer than Western medicine,

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Speaker 3: you know. But I was a Western trained doctor. So

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Speaker 3: I said, well, how do I bring this together? And

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Speaker 3: my folks were my folks, after they helped me get

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Speaker 3: through med school. They said, what are you doing Elson,

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Speaker 3: I said, well, I'm learning about a new a new

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Speaker 3: type of medicine, you know. So I wrote a book,

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Speaker 3: Staying Healthy with the Season, that came out in eighty one.

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Speaker 3: It's been out forty two years and still some people's

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Speaker 3: favorite book, and introduction to a healthier type of medicine

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Speaker 3: and paying attention to nature, paying attention to the cycles,

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Speaker 3: looking at herbs, looking at nutrition, and how do we

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Speaker 3: shift and adapt because everything keeps changing, We have to

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Speaker 3: keep evolving and growing. And you know, paying attention to

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Speaker 3: the cycles of life and nature to me is really key.

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Speaker 2: That's so cool. I have a simple philosophy. If you

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Speaker 2: don't have your health, you can't help the people you

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Speaker 2: care about.

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Speaker 3: Well, exactly, you can't help yourself. And that's you know,

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Speaker 3: and I've been doing these detox programs and you know,

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Speaker 3: I just kind of realized that, you know, I've been

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Speaker 3: still a family doctor. I'm busier than ever. And we

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Speaker 3: should talk sometime about the shortage of family doctors and

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Speaker 3: the lack of quote, you know, the care that people

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Speaker 3: really need. But I realized that most health issues that

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Speaker 3: people have have they have emotional and mental aspects. They

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Speaker 3: have a spiritual so we're not connected to a real

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Speaker 3: deeper self. And so I realized after forty some years

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Speaker 3: of doing detox and spring cleansing, it's much more than

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Speaker 3: the physical detox. We have to learn how to clear

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Speaker 3: our mind and make new thoughts and visualize our health better.

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Speaker 3: We have to deal with our emotional stresses and strains

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Speaker 3: that get stuck in our body, and you know, all

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Speaker 3: us so that we can really embrace our life more completely.

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Speaker 2: What do you recommend people do to make that first

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Speaker 3: I think the first step is is to look at yourself,

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Speaker 3: we have an inner doctor that we need to really

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Speaker 3: address and to look and say, well, what can I

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Speaker 3: the causes. So you know, ask yourself what's really underlying this?

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Speaker 3: And you know, I have done thousands of people George

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Speaker 3: over my career, just watching them change and getting doing

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Speaker 3: my detox diet or getting off you know, caffeine, alcohol, sugar, wheat, dairy,

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Speaker 3: which sounds like a lot for some people because it's

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Speaker 3: difference that happens when people do that is they start

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Speaker 3: feel better, their symptoms get better, their allergies get better,

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Speaker 3: their digestion gets better, and it really makes a difference

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Speaker 2: That is pretty dramatic. And people can start instantly with

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Speaker 2: this too, can't they exactly?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you could be anything. You could be on medicines.

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Speaker 3: You know, sometimes I's around a lot of medicines. You

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Speaker 3: need to check with your doctor because oftentimes you start

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Speaker 3: your blood sugar or your cholesterol, you don't need as

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Speaker 3: much medicines. A lot of people can get away from them. Now.

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Speaker 3: I prescribe medicines every day, but I prefer to, you know,

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Speaker 3: do lifestyle first, natural therapies next, and drugs as the

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Speaker 3: last resort. But when people come in on drugs, you've

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Speaker 3: got to make sure that the right medicines, the right

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Speaker 3: amounts with outside effect without interactions. And that's a lot.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, right now, there's a shortage of

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Speaker 3: day area where I practice. You know, I'm the only clinic.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I used to be kind of the integrative

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Speaker 3: You know. Now I'm seeing everybody out that the seniors

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Speaker 3: all that. Because I'm one of my unique aspects of

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Speaker 2: Why do you think there's such a shortage elson.

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Speaker 3: I think doctors are going into they have big loans,

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Speaker 3: they're going into jobs, they're going into specialty practices. They

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Speaker 3: don't want to really be an old time family doctor

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Speaker 3: gets to know their parents, their kids. It really is,

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Speaker 3: you know, it really is a valuable experience because it's

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Speaker 3: you know, it's like more like a family. My clinic

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Speaker 3: at seventy six because I want healthcare to be educational

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Speaker 3: to do. And I encourage them to take hold of

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Speaker 3: to look honestly at themselves and say, well, what's underlying this.

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Speaker 3: I wrote a whole chapter in my new medicine book

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Speaker 3: to do with our habits. It has to do with

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Speaker 3: causes problems. And once you get you start getting good

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Speaker 2: Generally, Y also, do you think most people are unhealthy or healthy?

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Speaker 3: I think most people get into layers of illness when

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Speaker 3: they used to be. Fifty year olds are probably a

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Speaker 3: really individual. I mean, we all have a mixture of

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Speaker 3: I think generally people are you know, are themselves.

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Speaker 2: Are you a booster? And supplements and things like that,

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Speaker 2: which I've been taking all my life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do a lot of natural therapies in our clinic,

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Speaker 3: and you know, I probably have three hundred different products,

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Speaker 3: use we use that as part of our experience. I mean,

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Speaker 3: everyone of my patients has a different diet, set of

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Speaker 3: mean I've lectured to you know, you know, around the

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Speaker 3: But I realized that when I talk to doctor, they say,

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Speaker 3: will be until you do it, and it's really an experience.

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Speaker 3: The patient has an experience just because of you know,

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Speaker 3: a certain drug work for somebody doesn't mean it's going

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Speaker 3: to just pay attention to that. People have to listen

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Speaker 3: And you know, I tell people I practice with kindness

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Speaker 3: and respect for you to really embrace who you are,

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Speaker 3: and you know, the philosophy of being a preventive medicine

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Speaker 3: doctor or a barefoot doctor. You know where in China,

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Speaker 3: you know, they were paid to keep people well. You know,

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Speaker 3: to me is the key, and I think, you know,

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Speaker 3: there's not a lot of young people. I mean, I'd

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Speaker 3: love to have a new a new doctor come in

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Speaker 3: that I can kind of train a bit and you know,

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Speaker 3: kind of take over. I just you know, I've been

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Speaker 3: at my clinic for forty years and I don't want

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Speaker 3: to I don't want it to lose that. We serve

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Speaker 3: a lot of people in the community.

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Speaker 2: So, you know, well, good for you with y Nelson Haws.

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Speaker 2: His website is linked up at Coast to Coast am

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Speaker 2: dot com. On April twenty seventh, He's got a whole

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Speaker 2: self detox program. We'll tell you about that tonight and

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Speaker 2: make sure you take down some notes on that and

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Speaker 2: people can get to that link through your general website too,

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Speaker 2: can't they. Doctor.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, seltonhas md dot com or the whole self

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Speaker 3: detox dot com.

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Speaker 2: Yes, were you born in Michigan?

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Speaker 3: I was born in Detroit. Yeah, raised went to Mumford

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Speaker 2: What do you think of moderate exercise?

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Speaker 3: Stock I think moderate and even more dynamic active exercise,

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Speaker 3: cardio for endurance. So I think, you know, we need

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Speaker 2: How much of all this is just plain common sense?

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Speaker 3: Much of it? Much of it is like what did

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Speaker 3: We've you know, we've altered the body, and we've created

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Speaker 3: And you know, people need to wake up from that

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Speaker 2: What changes a person's pattern where you know, you're there

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Speaker 3: How come, well, I mean to me. You know Bethany

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Speaker 3: You know, I just had this all this pacing the

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Speaker 3: I bet you feel different, he said, I feel so

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Speaker 3: And I told him what I did. I said, oh,

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Speaker 2: The greatest compliment to DOC is when you haven't seen

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