1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to Movie Mike's Movie Podcast. I 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: am your host Movie Mike. Today I want to talk 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: about long movies. That is the theme of this week's episode. 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: Ten great movies that are shockingly long, because in the 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: movie review will be talking about Christopher Nolans The Odyssey, 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: which comes in right around three hours. How do we 7 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: feel about long movies? Are they worthy of your time? 8 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: And in the trailer park, we will be talking about 9 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: Tom Cruise unlike we've ever seen him before, in a 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: new movie called Digger that's coming out later this year. 11 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: And my question is Tom Cruise is he trying to 12 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,959 Speaker 1: win his first Oscar ever? That's right, Tom Cruise has 13 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: never won an Oscar, so we'll talk about that might 14 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: be his best chance in a long time. So thank 15 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: you for being here, thank you for being subscribed, shout 16 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: out to the Monday Morning Movie crew. And now let's 17 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: talk movies from the Nashville. 18 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: Podcast Network this Movie Mike's Movie Podcast. 19 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: I think when it comes to movie run times, everybody 20 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: is concerned with length, but they should be concerned with girth. 21 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,959 Speaker 1: So what that means is you should not look at 22 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: a movie and say, oh, that has a three hour 23 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: runtime that's gonna take forever. 24 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: I don't want to watch that. 25 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: You should be concerned with the girth of the movie, 26 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: meaning is there enough substance in that story? Who is 27 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: the director, how are they gonna flesh out this story 28 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: in order to make this film feel robust and worthy 29 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: of that long run time. That is what you need 30 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: to look at, because a three hour movie, if done right, 31 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: can go by in an instant the same way a 32 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: ninety minute movie can feel horrendously long if you are 33 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: in the wrong hands of somebody who doesn't know what 34 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: they are doing, if you have bad acting, a terrible 35 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: story structure and writing. It all comes down to how 36 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: does a director execute their story and if they have 37 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: something to say that is worthy of a two and 38 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: a half hour or three hour runtime. Those things factor 39 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: in more so than just the runtime alone. So just 40 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: before you go watch your next movie, or even sit 41 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: down to watch one at home, don't judge a movie 42 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: by its runtime. 43 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: So I have a list. 44 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: Of movies that I believe are great that have shockingly 45 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: long run times. It's a bit of a mix of 46 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: movies that have had box office success, cultural impact, and 47 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: sometimes even how did they even get people to sit 48 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: through this entire thing, so we'll address all that coming 49 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: in at number ten. I have The Wolf of Wall Street, 50 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: which I went to go see in theaters back in 51 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. It is three hours long, directed by Martin Scorsese, 52 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: who is notorious for making long movies. But The Wolf 53 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: of Wall Street is essentially a three hour party movie. 54 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: And for me, when I saw this movie, I was 55 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: probably twenty two years old, so right in that party age, 56 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: I thought Jordan Belfort was the coolest person ever, which 57 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: is who this movie is about. It is a story 58 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: about stock market corruption and greed, basically a bunch of 59 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: rich people doing really awful things. And at the time 60 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: when I saw this, I was like, man, that guy's 61 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: so cool. He's the Wolf of Wall Street. But I 62 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: think I was just more enamored with how Leonardo DiCaprio 63 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: portrayed him, because once I got to know more about 64 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: the real guy and I saw him doing like some 65 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: motivational speeches, I'm like, that's not really a guy. 66 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: I want to idolize. 67 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: So I think this is a case where the movie 68 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: was so good it glamorized his life and maybe led 69 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: some people to think I want to be like that guy. 70 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: I want to be able to sell you a pen. 71 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: I want to make a bunch of money, party on 72 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: a yacht, do a bunch of you know, all the. 73 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 2: Crazy things that they do in this movie. 74 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: But I think this is a case of Jordan Belfort 75 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: probably benefited a lot from being portrayed by Leo to 76 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: look so cool and have such an awesome life, when really, 77 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: in real life he is somebody that you and I 78 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: would not want to hang out with. The F word 79 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: in this movie was used five hundred and sixty nine times. 80 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: It holds the record for the most uses of an 81 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: F word in a non documentary movie. Leonardo kae Paprio 82 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: also personally fought to make this movie. He bought the 83 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: rights himself to Jordan Belfort's memoir and spent years trying 84 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: to get this movie made. Actually went through several directors 85 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: until they landed on Scorsese and he came on board. 86 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: One of my favorite stories is a scene that happened 87 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: on accident because Matthew McConaughey is in this movie. There 88 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: is a part where he has a meeting with Leonardo 89 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: DiCaprio and the way that Matthew McConaughey would pump himself 90 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: up before a scene was to do that like pounding 91 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: on his chest, and he would just do that before takes, 92 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: not thinking it was anything. They saw it and said, 93 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: we need to put that in the movie. So I 94 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: love when little things like that happen and they end 95 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: up making the movie seems like it was all by design, 96 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: but it was all just kind of an accident. And 97 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: I think the runtime was so important in this movie 98 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: because you feel what the employees and all the characters 99 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: in it feel were at times, that high feels endless. 100 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: The thing I love about Scorsese movies is the rise 101 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: to fame or the rise to riches is always the 102 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: funnest ride, and those are all the good times where 103 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: everybody's making money, they're partying. It feels like you're never 104 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: going to come off this high. Everything is good, but 105 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: then there's always something that goes wrong because they've been 106 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: doing crimes, and eventually it all comes crashing down, usually 107 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: when some kind of law enforcement gets involved, and by 108 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: the end of it, you kind of feel like they do. 109 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: You feel exhausted, You feel almost like you have a 110 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: movie hangover. At number ten, I have the wolf of 111 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: Wall Street at number nine. This is the longest movie 112 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: I've ever seen in theaters at three hours and thirty 113 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: five minutes. It is The Brutalist starring Adrian Brody. This 114 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: movie was self funded by director Brady Corvette, made on 115 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: a pretty modest budget of about ten million dollars, and 116 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: this movie is about Adrian Brody's character escaping a post 117 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: war Europe and he is a visionary architect, but he 118 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: has a lot of emotional baggage. He deals with addiction, 119 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: and he's coming to America to not only rebuild his 120 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: life but also his career and his marriage. But he's 121 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: on his own suddenly in this new country. He ends 122 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: up going to Pennsylvania. The entire story kind of revolves 123 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: around him making friends with very wealthy people and then 124 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: designing this church for this family and it basically becoming 125 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: his masterpiece. And there are a lot of transitions throughout 126 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: his life. There's travel in this movie, and it's all 127 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: shown in a very beautiful way. I think The Brutalist 128 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: had some of the best cinematography of twenty twenty four. 129 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: There is one specific shot that made the trailer where 130 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: it's Adrian and Brody with these sparks in his face. 131 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: You can also see it in the movie poster. And 132 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: it was such a simple frame in the movie, not 133 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: even a major part of the story, but it was 134 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: just so beautiful that I'm glad they used it on 135 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: all the imagery surrounding the Brutalist, and there were all 136 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: these just tender, beautiful moments throughout the film. That it's 137 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: three and a half hour runtime did not feel like that. 138 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: And I know I'm saying that and you probably think 139 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:15,119 Speaker 1: I'm crazy, but this movie had an intermission, which going 140 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: into it, I was not a fan of. I thought, Man, 141 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to slow down the process. It is 142 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: also a big time commitment to go watch a movie 143 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: this long, because you not only factor in the runtime 144 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: of the movie, but you have to factor in you're 145 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty minutes to get there, you're sitting through previews, 146 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: and then you gotta go home. It is almost an 147 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: entire I don't want to say an entire day, but 148 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: it's definitely an entire afternoon commitment. So I didn't love 149 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: the idea of an intermission because I didn't want to 150 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: slow down that process. I just wanted to take the 151 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: entire thing and me kind of decide where I wanted 152 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: to go pee. 153 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: I left completely changed. 154 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: I love an intermission because it is a great time 155 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: for everybody to take a pause. You go out to 156 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: the lobby, You walk out, and you kind of straight 157 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: your legs a little bit, go to the bathroom if 158 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: you need to. I think the intermission was maybe ten 159 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: maybe fifteen minutes, and then you go back and you 160 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: suddenly feel fresh. I think the intermission came about an 161 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: hour forty five maybe an hour fifty minutes, So it 162 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: kind of puts you in a frame of mind like, Okay, 163 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: I'm ready to basically sit down and watch an entire 164 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: movie again. But I think this is something that is 165 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: gonna go away eventually. We're not gonna get movies like 166 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: the Brute Lists that are three hours and thirty five 167 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: minutes that don't have superheroes or don't have something crazy 168 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: like an entire franchise ending. So I think I love 169 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: this movie because of what it represents, because it brought 170 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: back that old school epic again in the modern era. 171 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: So that is why I put it on the list 172 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: at number nine. At number eight, this one is gonna 173 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: maybe make some people mad. I have Zack Snyder's Justice League, 174 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: which came out in twenty two, twenty one. Zack Snyder 175 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: is the director for the majority of the DC movies 176 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: that a. 177 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 2: Lot of people don't like. 178 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: I'm talking Man of Steel, I'm talking The Justice League, 179 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: and this movie is four hours and two minutes. 180 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 2: And the only reason in this movie. 181 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: Exists is because he has such diehard fans that they 182 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: demanded this cut. Because the original Justice League they came 183 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: out in twenty seventeen, which I went to go see 184 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: in theaters, was two hours long, and the problem with 185 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: that one is it felt rushed. At that time, DC 186 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: was competing with Marvel basically film for film, and they 187 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: wanted an answer to the Avengers. 188 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: That is why they rushed the Justice League. 189 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: It came out at a time where it was not 190 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: ready for this story, and all of the Snyder verse 191 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: fans demanded they get this movie, and that is what 192 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: we got from Warner Brothers, the four hour and two 193 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: minute version, after they spent years campaigning for this Snyder 194 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: cut and HBO Max released it part style. I think 195 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: to make it a little bit more digestible, because if 196 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: they would have just loaded up the full four hours 197 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: and two minutes I'm not sure that many people would 198 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: hit play and finish that entire thing. So I find 199 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: this one to be interesting on the list because it 200 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: was broken into chunks and made a little bit more digestible. 201 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: But to me, this is just one big, long movie. 202 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: And why I wanted to include this movie on the 203 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: list because it changed the conversation of director's cuts, which 204 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: we don't really get anymore. I think by adding those 205 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: other two hours it really fleshed out the story and 206 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: added some breath in places that felt like they were suffocating, 207 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: especially to Cyborg, who basically got his entire backstory in 208 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: this cut that did not make it in the movie. 209 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: So this proves to me that if fans are that 210 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: passionate and they complain enough, you can get your Snyder cut, 211 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: and maybe eventually down the line we get some director's 212 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: cuts through some other superhero movies that completely change the 213 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: way we see them. So at number eight, I have 214 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: Zack Snyder's Justice League from twenty twenty one at four 215 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: hours and two minutes. At number seven, I have Heat 216 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: from nineteen ninety five, which is two hours and fifty minutes, 217 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: directed by Michael Mann. This movie proved that the crime 218 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: epic genre could be cool. If I was maybe in 219 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: my thirties late twenties in the nineties, I would want 220 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: to be like a character in Heat because it makes 221 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: the nineties seem so cool. Val Kilmer in Heat is 222 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 1: one of the coolest characters of the nineties. This is 223 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: a movie that I am surprised is two hours and 224 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: fifty minutes because when I watch Heat, it does not 225 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: feel that long. And I believe this is one of 226 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: the most influential crime movies ever made. A lot of 227 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: people say that The Dark Knight is basically just a 228 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: different version of Heat, and I love how it kind 229 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: of shows the between the lives of a detective and 230 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: the lives of criminals, where it shows you why one 231 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: is considered a hero and one is considered a villain, 232 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: even though at times both of the characters in this 233 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: movie that are heroes and villains kind of want the 234 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: same thing. And sometimes the hero in this case, al Pacino, 235 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: does some things that are a little bit shady and 236 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: maybe not something you would want your law enforcement to 237 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: be responsible for doing, and shows you also that sometimes 238 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: criminals do some things that they actually have a heart. 239 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: And there's a famous diner scene between al Pacino and 240 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: Robert de Niro. That was actually the first time those 241 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: two actors ever spent together on screen, and that entire 242 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: scene was shot in one take with multiple angles, and 243 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: all that tension that you feel was just strictly their 244 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: raw performances. One of the things I love the most 245 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: about Heat is all the characters know how to use 246 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: their weapons. And I know that seems like common sense, 247 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: like cry movie one oh one, all the characters should 248 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: look like they are comfortable a gun. But sometimes I 249 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: watch an action movie and I think, man, that person 250 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: has probably never held a gun in their life. But 251 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: in the case of Heat, Robert De Niro and Val 252 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: Kilmer did much of their own weapons training, so much 253 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: so that Valcumer's reloading technique ended up becoming famous among 254 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: firearms experts because it was incredibly realistic. I think that 255 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: is something that you have to get down, those small 256 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 1: little details like your characters being able to know how 257 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: to reload a gun, how to hold a gun, and 258 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: how to make those scenes feel authentic. Has probably one 259 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: of the best bank robbery scenes of all time. And 260 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: Heat Too is coming. It's going to be directed by 261 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: Michael Mann again. It has a budget of about one 262 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million dollars, and I think this is 263 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: going to be one of the biggest movies of the 264 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: twenty tens, so much so that Learnardo DiCaprio has kind 265 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: of broken his rule on never doing sequels because he 266 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: is confirmed to be one of the stars this movie. 267 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: He historically does not do sequels. He says, I will 268 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: never be in a part two of anything, but he 269 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: made an exception for Heat two. I think for a 270 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: couple of reasons. One is because he has never worked 271 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: with director Michael Mann, and two because he kind of 272 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: clarified that he meant I would never be in a 273 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: sequel that I was a part of the first one. 274 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: He wasn't in Heat one, but he would do a 275 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: sequel if he was never part of that franchise. So 276 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: he's not going to do Titanic two. He's not gonna 277 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: do Wolf of Wall Street two, but Heat two, since 278 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: he wasn't in Heat one, probably loved this movie early 279 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: on in his life in his career, He's like, you 280 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna do that movie. Christian Bale has 281 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: also officially signed on, and Adam Driver has also officially 282 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: signed on as being one of the villains in this movie. 283 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: So that's really all the details we have now on 284 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: Heat two, but that is one of my most anticipated 285 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: movies of this decade. 286 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: But at number seven at two hours and fifty. 287 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: Minutes, I have Heat from nineteen ninety five at number six. 288 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: This is another one that you're going to think, why 289 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: did he put this on his list? But I have 290 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: Spider Man Across the Spider Verse, which came out in 291 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, and you might be saying this movie 292 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: is two hours and twenty minutes long. There are things 293 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: around this movie that are way longer. I feel like 294 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: this is the minimum runtime of what I would consider 295 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: to be a long movie. Two hours and twenty minutes 296 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: is at that threshold where I think most people will 297 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: make that decision on whether or not they want to 298 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: watch that movie because of that runtime. 299 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 2: And the reason I. 300 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: Included this movie even though two hours and twenty minutes 301 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: is right there on the border, is because this is 302 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: the longest major animated movie ever made. And I specifically 303 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: chose this one from animation, obviously because Spider Man is 304 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: my favorite superhero of all time, but historically animated movies 305 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: are usually kept ninety minutes. 306 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: A couple of reasons why they do that. 307 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: One is because most times animated movies are geared towards kids, 308 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: and you don't want to push their attention spans, and 309 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: ninety minutes is kind of in that sweet spot of 310 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: when a kid is going to tune out and get bored. 311 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: Of a movie. 312 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: Even though I do not consider this movie to be 313 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: a kid's movie, that is just what you think about 314 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: when you see animation. It's a cartoon, which I hate 315 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: that word when it relates to movies. But that is 316 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: a big reason why, for the most part, an animated 317 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: movie will be ninety minutes. And two is because animated 318 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: movies are also much harder to make, therefore more expensive. 319 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: It is so much harder just to create one second 320 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: of an animated movie to one second of a normal 321 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: movie because you have to draw every single thing. And 322 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: when it comes to across the Spider Verse, this movie 323 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: had over one thousand animators working on this. It is 324 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: so visually dense and complex. At times you will have 325 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: one to two to three different styles of animation in 326 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: one frame. You have so many things going on because 327 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: all the characters from Spider Gwynn to Spider Punk to 328 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: Spider Man twenty ninety nine to Miles morales have entirely 329 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: different looks that at times also have entirely different animation 330 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: styles at different frame rates. It is basically taking a 331 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: comic book and making it come to life, and the 332 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: fact that they are able to do that for two 333 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: hours in twenty minutes is truly mind blowing. And the 334 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: original version of this movie was reportedly even longer before 335 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: they ended up making cuts to it, so I know 336 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: we were demanding fan cuts earlier. I want the director's 337 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: cut of Spider Man Across the Spider Verse, and I 338 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: hope so much that they do not delay Spider Man 339 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: Beyond the Spider Verse, because it has been delayed. 340 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 2: Initially, we were. 341 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: Supposed to get it right after Across the Spider Verse, 342 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: but as of now, at the moment of me recording this, 343 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 1: it's supposed to come out on June eighteenth, twenty twenty seven. 344 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: I hope that happens because where they left us at 345 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: the end of the last movie, I can't believe it 346 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: has been this long. But at two hours and twenty minutes, 347 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: at number six, I have Spider Man Across the Spider Verse. 348 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 2: Getting into the top five. 349 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: Now at number five, I have Django one Chain from 350 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: twenty twelve at two hours and forty five minutes. Quentin 351 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: Tarantino is one of those directors where he's gonna tell 352 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: you this is the runtime, you're gonna sit down and 353 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: like it. I went to go see this movie in theaters. 354 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: At the time when this movie came out, Quentin Tarantino 355 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: was my favorite director, and he has been fascinated with 356 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: westerns his entire career. The only guy I've ever heard 357 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: talk about a spaghetti western with such passion has been 358 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: Quentin Tarantino, and westerns is a genre that is basically dead. 359 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: I feel like it's now been revived with all the 360 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: Yellowstone stuff, with all of the movies that Tarantino has 361 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: made in this style, that it's kind of comeback, which 362 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see a lot of parallels between 363 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: superhero movies and westerns. Where back in the day, the 364 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: John Wayne days, westerns were being made like crazy and 365 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: everybody ate them up. But it got to a point 366 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: where there was Western fatigue. People just got tired of 367 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: it because it was the same thing over and over. 368 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: You can only do so much in that genre, same way. 369 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: I feel people now have that superhero fatigue where the 370 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: MCU had a great run from two thousand and eight 371 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: to twenty nineteen, but now it just feels like, you know, 372 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: one a year is probably good. Same thing with westerns, 373 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: even though they're kind of coming back, they're kind of 374 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: cool again. Country has definitely become a lot cooler in 375 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: the last three to four years that I think that 376 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 1: appetite for westerns is there, but it has to be 377 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: handled very delicately, and I credit Tarantino with a lot 378 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: of that because he has made these movies cool because 379 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: he does westerns that go back and revise history, which 380 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: is kind of his thing, and this was a movie 381 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: that is basically a straight on western, but is so entertaining. 382 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: A top three Quentin Tarantino movie for me, I probably 383 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: would have included Inglorious Bassard's on this list, but it 384 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: doesn't have as a long run time as Jango Unchained. 385 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: Pulp Fiction is also pretty long. All the Tarantino's movies 386 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: are pretty long, but I think the fact that I 387 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: saw this movie in theaters and from the very opening 388 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: scene to the very end, I was so enthralled in 389 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: the story. Christoph Waltz when his second Oscar for Best 390 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: Supporting Actor. One of the best villain actors of all time, 391 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: Leonardo DiCaprio was fully committed in his performance in this movie. 392 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: We all know the famous scene him slamming his hand 393 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: on the table, breaking the glass and cutting his hand. 394 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: He actually did that. 395 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: He actually cut his hand and was bleeding during that scene. 396 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: And above all else, this movie made me crave white cake, 397 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: which is what they're gonna have for dessert. 398 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 2: Whenever they go over to Leonardo. 399 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: DiCaprio's house and he keeps talking about this delicious white cake. 400 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 2: If you kid to join me in the pollen, we 401 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: will be serving white cake. 402 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: Tarantino's really good at putting food and beverage in a 403 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: movie and making you want to eat and drink that 404 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: at the beginning of this movie, whenever Jamie Fox and 405 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,959 Speaker 1: Christoph Waltz meat for the first time and they go 406 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: into that. 407 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 2: Bar and he pours them that beer and then he 408 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 2: like shaves. 409 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: Off the foam and you just see all the fizzy 410 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: bubbles just look so delicious. Like, I don't really drink 411 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: beer anymore, but that looks so good. I would drink 412 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: that right now. But this movie should have not been successful, 413 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: a genre that people didn't really care about. In twenty twelve, 414 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: almost three hours long, extremely violent, a lot of suggestive language, 415 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: but it somehow became a blockbuster at number five. I 416 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: have Django unchained at number four from nineteen eighty three. 417 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: I have Scarface at two hours and fifty minutes. This 418 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,719 Speaker 1: is one of those movies that I feel was a 419 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: part of my childhood because it was kind of the 420 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: blueprint for everybody who looked like me growing up. Talking 421 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: about Mexican kids who grew up idolizing Scarface. I remember 422 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: in junior high you were not cool unless you had 423 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: a Scarface t shirt, a Scarface poster in your room. 424 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,479 Speaker 1: He was seen as the coolest movie character among all 425 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: my Mexican friends. And the thing about Scarface kind of 426 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: like we were talking about the Wolf of Wall Street. 427 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: It was people who watched that movie and did not 428 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: take away which you should have taken away from Scarface, 429 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: meaning that his story is bad. 430 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: It's a tragedy. 431 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: You see him getting the women Michelle fi friend this movie, 432 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: becoming a kingpin, but you don't realize that you need 433 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: to focus on his fall, letting you know that his 434 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: demise is the reason you should not chase a life 435 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,959 Speaker 1: like this. But I feel like all those people I 436 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: grew up with thought, man, I want to be like Scarface. 437 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 2: I saw this movie and thought. 438 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: Man, I don't even want to look at a drawing 439 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: because of what it did to him. That scene of 440 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: him with all the cocaine on the table and him 441 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: just like dumping his face in that. Some people saw 442 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: that and thought that was really cool. I saw that 443 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: and thought, man, what a disastrous human. But this movie 444 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: went on to become one of the most quoted movies 445 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: of all time. Obviously we all know say Hello to 446 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: my Little Friend has been parodied not only in TV 447 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: and movies in pop culture, but you probably have a 448 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: friend or an uncle who has said that at some 449 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: point in their life. 450 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 2: Well, like a water gun or something. 451 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: I think people just really love an anti hero, and 452 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: Tony Montana is that that is what he is. He 453 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: is one of the greatest anti heroes of all time. 454 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: There was even a longer version of this movie, but 455 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: it had to be heavily edited because there are some 456 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: violence that is even worse that would ended up making 457 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: the movie, which the chainsaw scene. How can you get 458 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: more violent than the chainsaw scene, but apparently that was 459 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: almost cut because it was going to force the movie 460 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: to get an X rating. 461 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: But they were still able to get that scene in 462 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: there and get it out in theaters. 463 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: And even when this movie came out, it was considered 464 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: kind of a disappointment, kind of flopped a little bit, 465 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: but has become one of the most famous eighties movies 466 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: of all time. At number four. I have Scarface at 467 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 1: number three from twenty fourteen, coming in at two hours 468 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: and forty nine minutes. I have Interstellar, directed by Christopher Nolan, 469 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: which has inspired this entire episode. 470 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 2: When it comes to. 471 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: Directors who love long movies, I'd put Nolan on that list. 472 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: Of course, on that list, David Fincher on that list, 473 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: Tarantino obviously on that list. But I think out of 474 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: all those, Christopher Nolan does it the best at what 475 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: some would call slow cinema, and I think he is 476 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: just the best at creating worlds that require long run times. 477 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: I look at a Christopher Nolan movie and I think 478 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: there's no way to make that movie any shorter, which 479 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: I think some people always say, like, h just cut 480 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: out twenty minutes of it, and I would have loved it, 481 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: and at Christopher Nolan movie, there is no moment in 482 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: time in his most recent work that I would think, oh, yeah, 483 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: taken twenty minutes out of that, I would make it better. 484 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: I actually think adding twenty minutes would make some of 485 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: these stories better, even Oppenheimer, which doesn't make my list, 486 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: but I think that movie did require that three plus 487 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: hour runtime. An Interstellar was a movie that I didn't 488 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 1: fully get the first time I watched it. It took 489 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: me several times actually to fully get this movie, and 490 00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: probably wasn't until maybe when TenneT came out that I 491 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: rewatched Interstellar, probably during COVID, that I really allowed myself 492 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: to spend some time with it and realized how ahead 493 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: of its time that movie was, which I think is 494 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: the thing with Christopher Nolan. Maybe in the next ten 495 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: years we'll look back on Tenet and think, ah, he 496 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: did something great there, We just did not fully realize it. 497 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: But Christopher Nolan is somebody who in that movie was 498 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 1: committed to using practical effects whenever possible. That is a 499 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: reoccurring theme in his filmmaking. The black Hole visuals were 500 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: so scientifically accurate that they actually helped develop other scientific papers, 501 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: so this movie actually influenced science. The movie used a 502 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: real equation from physicist Kip Thorn that is something that 503 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: you don't get in your normal sci fi movie. And 504 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: I think, much like myself, other people discover this movie 505 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: through streaming, which is something I think is great, especially 506 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: when it comes to longer movies that are a time commitment. 507 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,719 Speaker 1: So I think the streaming era actually helped this movie. 508 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: It also has a fantastic score with Hans Zimmer, which 509 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: I think you probably recognize the score even if you 510 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: haven't seen the movie, but through TikTok, especially in Pandemic 511 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: TikTok twenty twenty to twenty twenty two, you've probably heard 512 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: a quote from this movie or the soundtrack from this 513 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,719 Speaker 1: movie in a TikTok sound that has gone viral. Interstellar 514 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: is a movie about relativity and science and time dilation 515 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,959 Speaker 1: and wormholes, all these things that are super nerdy. I 516 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: love it when nerds are nerds about things and passionate 517 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: so much that they put them in a movie like 518 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: a big blockbuster movie like this and are able to 519 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: make it work and able to make it interesting. And 520 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: that is what Christopher Nolan did, something that not a 521 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: lot of people could do at number three two hours 522 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: and forty nine minutes. I have Interstellar at number two, 523 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: Avengers Endgame from twenty nineteen coming in at two hours 524 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: and one minute, directed by the Russo Brothers. I think 525 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: this is the biggest movie event of my generation. And 526 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: the reason this movie felt so massive is because it 527 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: just wasn't one film. This was a culmination of all 528 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: twenty two Marvel movies that came before. 529 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,719 Speaker 2: It over eleven years. 530 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: This is what we were building up to the entire 531 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: time finally seeing it on screen. All the times that 532 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: endgame was mentioned throughout the MCU, I think the first 533 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: time you hear it is when Tony Stark is talking 534 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: about this is the endgame in Age of Ultron. Even 535 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: then we knew that we were gearing up towards this. 536 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: It was a crazy road to get there, but unlike 537 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: what they did on the DC side, it was not rushed. 538 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: That final battle featured hundreds of characters, and that is 539 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: the moment I am talking about one of the greatest 540 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: scenes in film history. Again, just like we were talking 541 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: about in Interstellar also tackled time travel, and I think 542 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: this was a movie that was so long that it 543 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: also benefits that you rewatch it time and time again, 544 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: which this is in that category of movies that I 545 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,719 Speaker 1: rewatch at least once a year. I have a lot 546 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: of these movies. Maybe I should do an episode on that. 547 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: But I love the fact that this is three hours. 548 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: And I think looking at what they are saying about 549 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: Avengers Doomsday, which tickets go on sale this week, not 550 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: a commercial, but that movie with the tickets coming out, 551 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: they had to list its runtime. It is two hours 552 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: and forty five minutes. That's longer than Infinity War, but 553 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: not longer than Endgame. Obviously, I'm excited when these movies 554 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: are long because I know they are becoming a part 555 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,959 Speaker 1: of my video library, that I go back and rewatch 556 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: these movies all the time. 557 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 2: That I want these to be longer. 558 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: I would take a four hour Avengers movie because I 559 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: want more to dive into. 560 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 2: It's not just about that one experience. 561 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: To me in theaters, I see it as the long 562 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: or endgame, if you will, of when I go back 563 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: and rewatch these, I want as much information. I want 564 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: as many characters in there and complex storylines that I 565 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: can go back and revisit and fully get. Because I 566 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: think upon first watch in a lot of the Avengers movies, 567 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: You're not gonna fully understand it all. You will feel 568 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: the emotion and the excitement, and you'll leave the theater pleased. 569 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: But it's through those rewatches where you're like, oh, yeah, 570 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: this is what this character was doing. Oh oh, I 571 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: forgot that this was connected to this movie. It is 572 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: its own entire world and ecosystem. And I love the 573 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: fact that this movie crossed the three hour mark because 574 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: I loved every single minute, every single second, every single 575 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: frame of this story. 576 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: Theaters sold out worldwide when this movie came out. I 577 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 2: don't know if Doomsday is gonna have that same effect. 578 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: I am gonna get tickets right when they go on sale, 579 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: but I think that is gonna be something that is 580 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: gonna be hard to replicate because the opening weekend for 581 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: Endgame felt like a Super Bowl. It felt like a 582 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: sporting event more than a movie release. And I don't 583 00:30:58,840 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: know that we could replicate that. 584 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 2: Now. 585 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: Maybe if the EMCU had a little bit of momentum 586 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: going into it, maybe Spider Man brand New Day can 587 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: build that up a little bit. 588 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 2: But I think it's going to be hard to replicate that. 589 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: But I will always have Avengers Endgame in my heart 590 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: of being that movie that felt like a payoff to 591 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: me as a fan, total fan service. We all experienced 592 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: something in that theater together that we will never forget. 593 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: I'll be on my deathbed saying, man, I'm really glad 594 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: I was alive when Avengers Endgame came out in theaters. 595 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: So at number two, I have Avengers Endgame a lot 596 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: of honorable mentions. The Irishman I almost included, which was 597 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: three hours and thirty minutes. I think that was the 598 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: one where Netflix said, you know what, let's test out 599 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: putting a really long movie on our streaming service where 600 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: we're so focused on people just completing the things we 601 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: put up there, and I think that was one of 602 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: the last cultural event Netflix movies that we all collectively watch. 603 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: For the most part, The Green Mile almost made my list, 604 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: which is a surprising three hours and nine minutes, a 605 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: fantastic movie that does not feel like it's over three 606 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: hours long. Dances with Wolves is three hours long, and 607 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: I watched it all one time that I went with 608 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: my dad to I think, maybe just get an oil change, 609 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: And that was at a time where I couldn't set 610 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: appointments yet, so we were there for like three hours 611 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: on a Saturday morning, and I watched the entire thing 612 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: because it was the only DVD that this four dealership had. 613 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: Vivid memory for me is watching Dances with Wolves in 614 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: a waiting room. But at number one is the granddaddy 615 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: of them mall in my opinion from nineteen ninety seven, 616 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: I have Titanic, which is three hours in fourteen minutes. 617 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: I had to have a James Cameron movie on this list. 618 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: Was it going to be Avatar? I was kind of 619 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: an Avatar hater back in two thousand and nine because 620 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: I hate what it did to all this three D 621 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: technology craze that happened. 622 00:32:58,720 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 2: Because of that movie. 623 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: Probably wasn't until The Way of Water, where I rewatched Avatar. 624 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: I thought, you know what James Cameron doesn't miss Sometimes 625 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: you just don't get it. You just got to rewatch 626 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: it again. But it is a heavy commitment to get 627 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: into Avatar. But when it comes to Titanic, it was 628 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: such a massive hit in the nineties that had stayed 629 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: in theaters longer than any normal movie should. It spent 630 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: a historic forty three weeks in theaters in America. It 631 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: opened on December nineteenth, nineteen ninety seven and went on 632 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: to be number one for fifteen consecutive weeks. It did 633 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: not end its run until October first, nineteen ninety eight. 634 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: That means from December ninety seven all the way to 635 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: October ninety eight, you could go to the theater to 636 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: watch Titanic. That does not happen anymore. That is unheard of. 637 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: That is crazy, and nobody, well, I'm not fully sure 638 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: because I wasn't on the internet back in the nineties, 639 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: nobody would complaining of how long Titanic was. And then 640 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: when it came out on VHS, you had the two 641 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: VHS's and it was that big, fat boy of a collection. 642 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: I loved it, and I think this is a great 643 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: example of movies that we've all seen, we've all loved, 644 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: and the example I like to use whenever people say. 645 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 2: I don't like long movies. Yes you do. You do 646 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 2: like long movies. You don't like long, boring movies. 647 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: But if a movie like Titanic can create this global 648 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: phenomenon at three hours and fourteen minutes, it is not 649 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: the runtime. 650 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 2: That is the problem. It's the story that tells you. 651 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: If you create a captivating story with love and romance, 652 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: it turns into a disaster movie at the end. 653 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 2: It has a little bit of everything. 654 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: And the design of this with the practical effects, how 655 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: massive this movie feels at every single second. James Cameron 656 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: convinced the studios to spend a record amount of money, 657 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 1: even though everybody thought it was too expensive. It was 658 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: the most expensive movie ever made at the time. The 659 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: ship set was almost full size. James Cameron actually built 660 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: a massive tank in Mexico specifically for the movie, which 661 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: filming in water has to be one of the most 662 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 1: dreadful experiences as an actor, because a lot of making 663 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: the movie is just sitting around and waiting. Then you 664 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: gotta sit around and wait while they fixed the light 665 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: and you're sitting there in the cold. 666 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 2: Oh I bet this process was grueling, But the. 667 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: Studio was so worried about the budget and some thought 668 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: it was gonna destroy the company. It went on to 669 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 1: be one of the highest grossing movies of all time, 670 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: went on to win eleven Oscars. My Heart Will Go 671 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: On became one of the biggest movie songs ever. I'm 672 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: the King of the World obviously became iconic, one of 673 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: the most famous movie quotes of all time, and Leonardo 674 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 1: DiCaprio just like that, became a superstar. He was already famous, 675 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: but this movie launched him to being a superstar. And 676 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: all throughout this list I saw that Leonardo DiCaprio loves 677 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: himself a long movie Titanic, Killers of the Flower Moon, 678 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: Django Unchained, and The Wolf of Wall Street. It's because 679 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: he loves working with great directors. So at number one, 680 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: at three hours and fourteen minutes, I have Titanic. I'll 681 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: come back and give my spoiler free review of The Odyssey. 682 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: I was wrong about The Odyssey. Let's get into it now, a. 683 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 2: Spoiler free movie review of. 684 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,439 Speaker 1: One of Christopher Nolan's best movies ever. Who I would say, 685 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: in the last decade has become my favorite director. Especially 686 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: after seeing The Odyssey, I no longer question him. And 687 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,720 Speaker 1: the reason I was wrong about this movie is whenever 688 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 1: it was first announced that Christopher Nolan was doing The 689 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: Odyssey next, I thought, oh. 690 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 2: Man, that's gonna be so boring. 691 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: It's gonna be set so far ago where they all 692 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: talk weird, a bunch of people with weird names. 693 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 2: Again, this is my dumb brain who doesn't want. 694 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: To deal with the period piece because that's just how 695 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: I've come to see these movies. I always watch them 696 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: like in school growing up, but it just seems very boring. 697 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,959 Speaker 1: And from the very first frame of the Odyssey, all 698 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 1: of that went out the window, and I found myself 699 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: so enthralled in this story that I thought I was 700 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: so wrong. Why did I ever question Christopher Nolan, probably 701 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: our greatest living filmmaker. I'm going full fanboy on this 702 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: review because I was so moved by this story. It's 703 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: about family, it is about PTSD, it is about the 704 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: journey home because that is where we find Matt Damon, 705 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: who plays Odysseus. Matt Damon again just trying to get home, 706 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: whether it's the Martian, whether it's saving Private Ryan, Matt 707 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: Damon always seems to get lost. It has to find 708 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: his way back home. And what we find when it 709 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: comes to cinema that is all ways a fantastic journey. 710 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: Where did we start here? Let's look at the cast first, 711 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: because while watching this movie, every single person on screen 712 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: was famous where it's just like there's Endeya, there's me 713 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: a Goth, there's Robert Pattinson, there's John Leguizamo, And I 714 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: think that is what really sucked me into this story 715 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: and eliminated that entire dread of me initially going into 716 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: it feeling like, Okay, I'm bout to go watch a 717 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: three hour movie that's already a big commitment, and then 718 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a bunch of people talking about ancient 719 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: times and wars and cities and me having to remember 720 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,240 Speaker 1: all these things in john Burn though. 721 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 2: Like, let me tell you something, let me tell you something. 722 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: And I just didn't think it was going to be 723 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: something that felt so quick. But this ended up being 724 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 1: the quickest three hours of my life, which it actually 725 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,760 Speaker 1: clocks in around two hours and forty six thish minutes. 726 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: And it starts off from the very beginning where it 727 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: feels like every twenty minute there is something wild happening. 728 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: There is spectacle all over this thing, whether it's a cyclops, 729 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: whether it's a whirlpool, whether it's a storm, all these 730 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: things that just keep coming and coming. And I know 731 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 1: this is called the odyssey. It's not one battle after another, 732 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: but that is what it felt like, one thing after another. 733 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: And I love the way the story was formatted, where 734 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,240 Speaker 1: you see different points of time of Matt Damon's journey, 735 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: because ultimately the entire thing is about him trying to 736 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: get back home. But then you go to the Trojan War, 737 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: and then you have Tom Holland's character, who plays his son, 738 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,879 Speaker 1: who just wants to find his dad again because he 739 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: has not seen him since he was a kid. He's 740 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: been missing for a very long time. And Hathaway plays 741 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: the wife of Matt Damon and is therefore Tom Holland's mother, 742 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: and she just wants to see her husband again. And 743 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: it's all about what happens when the ruler of Ithaca 744 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: is missing, and how that beautiful empire starts to crumble 745 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: when people are refusing to wait for their leader to return, 746 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,879 Speaker 1: even though she still has all this power. People are 747 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: getting restless and they want to capitalize on that open throne. 748 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: As they say in the movie, it is a bad 749 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 1: time for the throne to be open. But there were 750 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 1: incredible performances all across the board. And I don't even 751 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: consider myself a Matt Damon fan. I think he is 752 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: a fine actor, obviously an Academy Award winner and somebody 753 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: who is a very prestigious actor. But when it comes 754 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: to his movies, I think of the last one, The Rip. 755 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 1: In the last decade he has been okay, but he's 756 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: not somebody I go to automatically and think I'm gonna 757 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 1: love a Matt Damon movie. He's kind of on a 758 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: case by case basis. Has just never been one of 759 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: my favorite actors. But he impressed me so much in 760 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: the Odyssey, and he made me root for him so 761 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: hard that I thought, am I becoming a big Matt 762 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,800 Speaker 1: Damon fan? And I think he is the only person 763 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: who could have handled this role because the character of 764 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: Odysseus is a great leader, a excellent hunter and warrior, 765 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: but also just a really great family man that if 766 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,720 Speaker 1: I were in his army, I would die for this guy. 767 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: And it was Matt Damon's performance that really evoked emotion 768 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: in this sold out crowd, which is something you don't 769 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: get right now. This entire theater cheered at various moments 770 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: because of Matt Damon, and it almost felt like an 771 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: Avengers movie at times, because there were very epic moments 772 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 1: that this entire story was building up to, and you 773 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: truly see Matt Damon. 774 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 2: As this hero. 775 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: It was something that I hadn't seen in him before, 776 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 1: and I didn't know he had that in him. 777 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 2: Well, obviously, I kind of know he had it in him. 778 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 1: But it also proves to you how a great director 779 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:56,439 Speaker 1: can get great performances out of the actors they put 780 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: in their movies, because not only Matt Damon giving a 781 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: stellar performance, but all across the board. John Lake Ozamo, 782 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: I think, had to be the most surprising to me. 783 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: I would say had the biggest transformation in this movie. 784 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: The old man makeup looked amazing, and I'm like, how 785 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: in the world is that the same guy who did 786 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: the Pest. That opening sequence from The Pest where he's 787 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: rapping and farting in the shower, that is the same 788 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 1: guy right there who is now a star in a 789 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: Christopher Nolan movie, in a movie of epic proportions. That 790 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: is the Pest delivering that performance. That is the same 791 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: guy who voices the sloth from Ice Age. So that 792 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,320 Speaker 1: tells you just one reason why a director is so important. 793 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 1: So let's get into talking about the technical aspect, because 794 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 1: just on a technical aspect alone, this is Nolan's best word. 795 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: Nothing comes close. Because this was the first movie of 796 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 1: its kind shot entirely in imax, which that is what 797 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 1: is getting people to the theater. And I think that 798 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: is what is going to save six and is greatly 799 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 1: the reason that there is a surge in people going 800 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 1: back to the movies, because people want to see a 801 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: spectacle and people are willing to pay for a premium experience. 802 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: Where you saw people driving across the country to go 803 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: to their nearest Imax to see this movie on the 804 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 1: biggest screen possible. And it is somebody like Nolan who 805 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: is pushing that boundary constantly with every single movie of 806 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: giving us something we haven't seen before, taking us to 807 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: extraordinary places, and also making those places feel authentic. And 808 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 1: that is a big reason this movie works so well 809 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:42,760 Speaker 1: because the scenes at sea, they are actually on location, 810 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 1: they are in real boats, they are in real water, which, 811 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 1: by the way, Christopher Nolan has the best water. 812 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 2: I just want to drink it. I just want to 813 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 2: live in it. 814 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: Whether it's this movie, whether it's Dunkirk, he has the 815 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: best water because it looks so fresh and colorful. The 816 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: color grading in this is amazing. But it's all those 817 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 1: little technical aspects and decisions that he is responsible for 818 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 1: of saying. 819 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 2: This is what I want in the movie. 820 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: I don't know how I'm gonna do it, but I'm 821 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,839 Speaker 1: gonna figure it out. Because I need to put the 822 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 1: audience in the right setting to make this feel authentic. 823 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: He is so particular about tone, which is why this 824 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 1: movie works so well, is because the tone is there, 825 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 1: and how is the tone set. It is set through production, 826 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 1: so all those moments that are so important have to 827 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: feel real, so it's real armor. He uses CGI as 828 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 1: minimal as possible instead focusing on real sets, real trojan 829 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,320 Speaker 1: horse piece that goes into this movie, because that is 830 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,479 Speaker 1: what you need. You need the characters to be able 831 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 1: to interact with these things. You also need to show 832 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,839 Speaker 1: the audience that they have texture, they feel real. That 833 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 1: also kind of set a light off in my brain 834 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 1: of I don't know that we would ever get to 835 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: a fully AI generated movie. I do think some actors 836 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 1: and we're seeing certain companies getting bought up now in 837 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: some places admitting to use an AI. I think it 838 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: will be a tool, much like CGI was a tool 839 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 1: whenever that first came out back in the day where 840 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,320 Speaker 1: people are like, no, you got to use practical effects 841 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 1: all the time, and now using CGI and green screen 842 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 1: a second nature, but now everybody is worried about AI. 843 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 2: I think it'll be a tool, but I don't ever. 844 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: Think there will be a fully AI generated movie, and 845 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 1: I think The Odyssey is a great reason why now 846 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,359 Speaker 1: there could be one. But it's not going to get 847 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 1: people out into the theater like this, because what makes 848 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: this movie so special are all those little things that 849 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 1: are actually real that you can touch, that you can feel, 850 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 1: that give people a reason to pay money to go 851 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 1: see this thing in theaters. And that is what we 852 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: are seeing across the board. And the thing was Christopher 853 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 1: Nolan created this camera system for this movie so his 854 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 1: vision could truly come to life how he wanted it, 855 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: how Nolan intended. And the camera was so big and 856 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: made so much noise that they had to create this 857 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,399 Speaker 1: box that went around it to minimize that sound because 858 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 1: you don't want to affect the actor's performance. And there 859 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,760 Speaker 1: are a lot of moments where you have to be Obviously, 860 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: as an actor, you always have to be fully dialed in, 861 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: but there are a lot of big, pivotal moments in 862 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,839 Speaker 1: this movie that are very soft and quiet. And then 863 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 1: if you just had this big, massive camera the entire 864 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 1: time just humming along, it would kill the vibe for 865 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,919 Speaker 1: Manhathaway and Matt Damon. So they created this big box 866 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,280 Speaker 1: that they could put the camera in, but the problem 867 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 1: still with this camera is they can only run for 868 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 1: three minutes at a time. So going back to that 869 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,760 Speaker 1: scene of having this emotional connection having to be fully 870 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: dialed in, imagine having to stop every three minutes to reset, 871 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: and you have to sit there and stay in that 872 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,879 Speaker 1: frame of mind, keep that emotion, and then as soon 873 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 1: as they say action again after saying cut, you have 874 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 1: to go back into that same emotion, not move a 875 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 1: whole lot, and then get right back into it. That 876 00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 1: is why I think this movie is an incredible triumph 877 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 1: because of how long this process took, how expensive it was. 878 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 1: It's now Christopher Nolan's most expensive movie of all time. 879 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,280 Speaker 1: But it is greatly paying off because, like I mentioned earlier, 880 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 1: it was a sold out showing on a Friday night, 881 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 1: and if you wanted to go see this movie, it 882 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 1: was tough to get into. And that is a hard 883 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,720 Speaker 1: thing to accomplish as a filmmaker, to create a movie 884 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,360 Speaker 1: that is just hard to go see. Here in town, 885 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 1: they added a three am showing so that people could 886 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 1: go and watch this movie. The demand is insane and 887 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 1: that is what excites me so much. And I was 888 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 1: so wrong to think that this movie was going to 889 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: be boring, because at no point did I think the 890 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 1: story was dragging. 891 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 2: It moved along really well. I even felt bad for 892 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 2: the monsters along the way. There were so many marvelous 893 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 2: aspects that I thought, I need to see this movie 894 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 2: again immediately, and I'm going to do so, and I 895 00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 2: did not think that would be the case with the 896 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 2: three hour movie. So now thinking about where this ranks 897 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 2: on my greatest Christopher Nolan movies of all time, which 898 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 2: I think after The Odyssey, he has probably now worked 899 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 2: his way in as my favorite director right now, and 900 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 2: it's gonna be probably another three years before we get 901 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 2: another Nolan movie. 902 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,919 Speaker 1: But now my top five Christopher Nolan movies of all 903 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:25,200 Speaker 1: time at number five, I have The Dark Knight Rises. 904 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 1: I actually think at one point The Dark Knight Rises 905 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 1: could have been number one, because at the time when 906 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 1: I watched this movie in theaters, I actually thought Baine 907 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 1: was a better villain than the Joker. I just felt 908 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 1: he was more of a threat to Batman, that friction, 909 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: that back and forth, him breaking Batman's back and being 910 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 1: somebody that was actually going to take him down and 911 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 1: was living to see him suffer and basically annihilating Batman 912 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 1: every step of the way and being a true threat 913 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 1: to Gotham. I love Tom Hardy in this role. My 914 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 1: biggest problem with The Dark Night Rises is how lame 915 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 1: the Fall of Bain was. It was so just aniclmenic, 916 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:07,240 Speaker 1: where it's just like. 917 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:07,880 Speaker 2: Here's Baine. 918 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 1: He's the biggest threat Batman has ever had, and now 919 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 1: nothing nobody cares about him anymore. 920 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 2: He has done, he is disposed. 921 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 1: If it wouldn't have been for that aspect and they 922 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 1: would have changed the ending of The Dark Knight Rises, 923 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 1: I think it could have been number one in my opinion, 924 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 1: but that brought it down so far at number five. 925 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 1: I have The Dark Knight Rises at number four is 926 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,959 Speaker 1: where I'm putting The Odyssey again. 927 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 2: It's very fresh. It could maybe work its way. 928 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 1: Up in my ranking after I go and watch it 929 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 1: again for a second time. 930 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,720 Speaker 2: The story is massive. 931 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,439 Speaker 1: Visually beautiful, I think when it comes to the Odyssey, though, 932 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:48,760 Speaker 1: comparing it to other Christopher Nolan movies, I probably connect. 933 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,640 Speaker 2: With the story and relate to it the least. 934 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,320 Speaker 1: It is like a really finely crafted sandwich where you 935 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,839 Speaker 1: really enjoyed it, you really loved it. That is the 936 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 1: best say, which you can probably get, but at the 937 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 1: end of the day, it is still just a great sandwich. 938 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 1: When Christopher Nolan has served up steak Filet Mignon, there 939 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 1: is other things in his filmography that are just gonna 940 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 1: be better, even though on a technical aspect, I think 941 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 1: it is the best I think right now, and number 942 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 1: four is where I put The Odyssey and number three 943 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,799 Speaker 1: is where I put Interstellar. Now, that is what I 944 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 1: want out of a Christopher Nolan movie. I want theories, 945 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 1: I want science, I want open endedness. I want Matthew McConaughey. 946 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,360 Speaker 1: I want a really long run time, which Interstellar is 947 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 1: another beefy one. I think this was Christopher Nolan's most 948 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 1: ambitious movie, and it gets relevant more every single day, 949 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 1: every single year. 950 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:46,520 Speaker 2: So at number three, I have Interstellar. At number two, 951 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,400 Speaker 2: I have Inception. This movie blew my mind the first 952 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,360 Speaker 2: time I saw it, and I am somebody who is 953 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:56,480 Speaker 2: fascinated with dreams and the entire idea of being able 954 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,839 Speaker 2: to control your dreams is so sexy to me that 955 00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:00,919 Speaker 2: I I love this movie. 956 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,800 Speaker 1: Upon first watching it, it made me want my own totem. 957 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 1: I love the open endedness. Even to this day, I 958 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,880 Speaker 1: still wonder what the ending of this movie meant and 959 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 1: what the fate of our characters actually were. On a 960 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 1: technical aspect, also a major accomplishment. The hallway scene is 961 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,360 Speaker 1: one of the coolest things I've ever seen in a 962 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,360 Speaker 1: Christopher Nolan movie, and he has a lot of those moments. 963 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 1: So at number two I have Exception, But at number 964 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,560 Speaker 1: one not only my favorite Christopher Nolan movie, but my 965 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 1: favorite movie of all time, I have The Dark Night because, 966 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 1: in my opinion, it has the best opening scene out 967 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 1: of any Christopher Nolan movie. That opening scene should win 968 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 1: an oscar just on its own because it is so dynamic, 969 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 1: so memorable. It starts the movie off so aggressively and 970 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:53,400 Speaker 1: shows you exactly who the joker is within minutes. It 971 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 1: is also what I believe to be the most rewatchable 972 00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 1: Christopher Nolan movie. Even though yes it is a super 973 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 1: here a movie, it is so much more than that. 974 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:07,840 Speaker 1: It is a story of anarchy and order and vengeance 975 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 1: and vigilantes and all these things wrapped up into one. 976 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 1: Heath Ledger gave an amazing performance in this Christian Bale 977 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 1: was at his best not only as Batman but as 978 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,839 Speaker 1: Bruce Wayne. This movie has it all. If I had 979 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 1: one movie to take with me to the grave, it 980 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 1: would be The Dark Knight. So at number one, I 981 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,880 Speaker 1: have The Dark Knight as my favorite Christopher Nolan movie 982 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,280 Speaker 1: of all time. Now, when it comes to the Raking 983 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 1: System again, I do want to go watch this movie 984 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 1: immediately again, but I don't think it's gonna be one 985 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,880 Speaker 1: of those movies that stays with me forever. I think 986 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,960 Speaker 1: right now it's having a moment in my heart and 987 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a massive movie obviously this year, but 988 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 1: kind of like Oppenheimer. I loved it when I first 989 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 1: saw it in theaters, but it's not a movie I'm 990 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 1: gonna rush to now to rewatch. I think this will 991 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 1: have more rewatchability than an Oppenheimer. 992 00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 2: Again, technically it is his best movie. It is perfect, 993 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:04,120 Speaker 2: no change is there. 994 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,960 Speaker 1: But I just think if it failed that anything was 995 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 1: to connect with me on a personal level, and it's 996 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,160 Speaker 1: an unfair thing to ask. There's no way that I 997 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 1: would connect with any element of this story. But when 998 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,880 Speaker 1: it comes to Christopher Nolan movies probably had not so 999 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 1: much of a mind blowing aspect. It was just a 1000 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,839 Speaker 1: really well crafted movie and well crafted story that is 1001 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,719 Speaker 1: very inspiring that does make you want to get up 1002 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,919 Speaker 1: and cheer, which there were a couple of moments where 1003 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:34,360 Speaker 1: the entire audience just erupted in applause and that was 1004 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,280 Speaker 1: fun to see. But when it comes to the Odyssey, 1005 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 1: I give it four point five out of five Trojan Horses. 1006 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 2: Time to head down to movie Mike Trailer Park. 1007 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 1: Is Tom Cruise trying to win his first official Oscar? 1008 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: That is the question in this week's Trailer Park. He 1009 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,799 Speaker 1: looks completely unrecognizable in the trailer for Digger. This movie 1010 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 1: is coming out on October second. He plays the most 1011 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 1: powerful CEO in the world and he has to say 1012 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,600 Speaker 1: the world from a disaster. The only problem is he 1013 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 1: created the disaster himself. In my research of this movie, 1014 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 1: I've watched the trailer numerous times. Still, the thing that 1015 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,480 Speaker 1: blows my mind the most is I forgot that Tom 1016 00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 1: Cruise has never won an OSCAR. He's been nominated four times. 1017 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 1: He has an honorary Oscar, but that doesn't count. And 1018 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,760 Speaker 1: now that the full trailer is out, I'm like, ah, 1019 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,640 Speaker 1: I think he is going to try and win his 1020 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,440 Speaker 1: first official Oscar. 1021 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,720 Speaker 2: That is why he is making this movie. 1022 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,840 Speaker 1: So we'll get into all of the Tom Cruise Oscar 1023 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,440 Speaker 1: drama of movies he's been nominated for but has not one. 1024 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 1: But before I get into more, here is just a 1025 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,760 Speaker 1: little bit of the Digger trailer coming out in theaters 1026 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,760 Speaker 1: this year on October second. 1027 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,279 Speaker 2: Yes, Sandy, hey man, buddy, you're the man which five 1028 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 2: foot crack now glacier over there in Greenland? It shifts 1029 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,799 Speaker 2: five feet now. This desk in front of me, he's 1030 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,719 Speaker 2: bigger than five feet, mister Rowell, it's a tenth of 1031 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,359 Speaker 2: that SATs. What do you want me to chuck down 1032 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,880 Speaker 2: a billion dollar platform over something it's ten times the 1033 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,240 Speaker 2: size of mine. You want to shut her down? Well 1034 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 2: try it, mister. 1035 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:12,440 Speaker 1: Presidents were utterly unprotected against the disaster of this magnitude. 1036 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:19,160 Speaker 2: What's our worst case scenario? Eighteen trillion dollars, sir so. 1037 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,360 Speaker 1: Tom Cruise plays a guy named Digger Rockwell, who is 1038 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:27,360 Speaker 1: a corrupt, eccentric Southern billionaire oil baron, and Digger inadvertently 1039 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 1: triggers a massive global environment crisis due to his aggressive 1040 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:37,360 Speaker 1: fracking and oil drilling arrogance. Following the disaster, the President 1041 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:42,759 Speaker 1: calls him in to fix his own giant mess. This 1042 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:47,399 Speaker 1: trailer looks unlike anything I have seen this year. Tom 1043 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 1: Cruise has been teasing it now for a while that 1044 00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 1: has just kind of had my curiosity. It reminds me 1045 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,440 Speaker 1: of that episode of The Simpsons Krusty Gets Canceled, which 1046 00:55:55,480 --> 00:56:00,040 Speaker 1: I believe is probably my favorite Simpsons episode of a 1047 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,919 Speaker 1: whole time. And in that episode, Krusty, the clown who 1048 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 1: is Bart's idol, has his local TV show, which is 1049 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,080 Speaker 1: also crazy by the way that he is such a 1050 00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:11,880 Speaker 1: major celebrity on a local channel. 1051 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,240 Speaker 2: But again, this isn't the Simpsons podcast. 1052 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:18,720 Speaker 1: But in that episode, he has a new competition across 1053 00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:23,200 Speaker 1: the street of this character named Gabbo, and the promotion 1054 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:27,160 Speaker 1: for Digger reminds me of Gabo, where they just start 1055 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,359 Speaker 1: playing these random commercials where you have no idea what 1056 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,520 Speaker 1: it's about, but all it focuses on is the name, 1057 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 1: and like a silhouette. Here's a little clip of The 1058 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,840 Speaker 1: Simpsons from that episode. 1059 00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,719 Speaker 2: Did you see that? Yeah, which Gabo. I figure it's 1060 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,440 Speaker 2: some guy's name, some guy named Gable. 1061 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,840 Speaker 1: So that's Homer and Bart just watching TV and across 1062 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,840 Speaker 1: the screen just Gabbo, Gabo gabble. That is how I 1063 00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:58,080 Speaker 1: feel about this movie. Where before we got this full trailer. 1064 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 1: We had an image of Tom CRU's dancing on what 1065 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 1: looks like the edge of a boat with these boots 1066 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,520 Speaker 1: and a very fluid motion. We had the poster, which, 1067 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,799 Speaker 1: by the way, it has excellent graphic design. All of 1068 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,759 Speaker 1: the materials and identity of this movie. I really enjoy 1069 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 1: a fantastic font. I like the orange color scheme, and 1070 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,480 Speaker 1: it's all this packaging that has been rolled out so 1071 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,920 Speaker 1: efficiently and meticulously that leads me to believe this is 1072 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 1: Tom Cruise wanting to win an Oscar and show people 1073 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 1: how different he wants to. 1074 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 2: Be perceived by the public. 1075 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:38,440 Speaker 1: Because this is his first major character actor role outside 1076 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:42,680 Speaker 1: of his standard action franchises in almost ten years, which 1077 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,360 Speaker 1: is a big deal for him because he's been just 1078 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:49,160 Speaker 1: dominating with Top Gun and the Mission Impossible movies, and 1079 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,240 Speaker 1: those are kind of feeling that coming to a place 1080 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,600 Speaker 1: where like, Okay, we realize you can do that, give 1081 00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,960 Speaker 1: us something different. That is what he is going for now. 1082 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 1: He is also working with the direct for the first time, 1083 00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:06,680 Speaker 1: Alejandro Gonzalez Inharito, who is famous for movies like The Revenant, 1084 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,800 Speaker 1: which got Leonardo DiCaprio his first Oscar, So that is 1085 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,520 Speaker 1: a great indication there. He also did Amores Perros, which 1086 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 1: that was the movie that Tom Cruise first saw of 1087 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,280 Speaker 1: his and thought that's a really good director. Almost twenty 1088 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 1: five years after that movie, they are now working together. 1089 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:28,560 Speaker 1: Alejandro has also done movies like Birdman. So these very big, original, dramatic, 1090 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:33,320 Speaker 1: at time comedic movies that have their own unique visual identity. 1091 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:37,200 Speaker 1: You have all the elements here of an easy Oscar nomination. 1092 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 1: But the reasons I am worried is because this movie 1093 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:45,440 Speaker 1: is dubbed as a satirical black comedy. People are comparing 1094 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 1: it to Cubrick's movie Doctor Strangelove, which came out back 1095 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty four. A most recent memory of mine 1096 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,920 Speaker 1: what it reminds me of was Mickey seventeen, directed by 1097 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 1: Bong Juno, who also did Parasite, who is one of 1098 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:03,320 Speaker 1: my favorite directres of this decade. That movie came out 1099 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,440 Speaker 1: and it kind of had this same feel, which was 1100 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 1: about Robert Pattinson's character who was a disposable employee and 1101 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 1: he's sent out to colonize this new ice world and 1102 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 1: they have essentially this cloning machine, so they put him 1103 00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 1: into these situations. He dies, but then a new body 1104 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,520 Speaker 1: of his is generated with most of his memories intact, 1105 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,280 Speaker 1: and that movie had the same kind of visual identity 1106 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,960 Speaker 1: that I'm seeing here in Digger after watching this trailer 1107 00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 1: where it's very outlandish, the cinematography is very bold. So 1108 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,640 Speaker 1: not only do they look the same visually, but when 1109 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,360 Speaker 1: it comes to some of the story structure that I 1110 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,760 Speaker 1: am seeing here with the characters and the set design, 1111 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,720 Speaker 1: they look very similar to me. The problem that Mickey 1112 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:52,000 Speaker 1: seventeen Face was it was also a comedy of sorts, 1113 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,160 Speaker 1: and I think when you mix sci fi and comedy 1114 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,800 Speaker 1: sometimes it's just hard to sell it to people. And 1115 00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,360 Speaker 1: I think that was the problem Mickey seventeen faced is 1116 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 1: nobody really knew what to do with it, and audiences 1117 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,080 Speaker 1: were kind of confused on how to feel, even though 1118 01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,560 Speaker 1: I love that movie. Also in that you have Robert 1119 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Pattinson playing a very different version of himself, a very 1120 01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,760 Speaker 1: unique accent in a way that most people aren't used 1121 01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,440 Speaker 1: to seeing Robert Pattinson. That is what we are seeing 1122 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:24,520 Speaker 1: here again with Tom Cruise. Mickey seventeen didn't work out 1123 01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,160 Speaker 1: so well. I think when it comes to a satirical 1124 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:31,120 Speaker 1: comedy like that, it's just not going to hit with everybody, 1125 01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,720 Speaker 1: because if you say comedy, people are going into it 1126 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:38,000 Speaker 1: wanting to watch the funniest thing ever. And if you 1127 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,520 Speaker 1: don't have that experience, you're gonna say that. 1128 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,960 Speaker 2: Wasn't funny at all. This isn't a comedy. 1129 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to see Tom Cruise acting like you did 1130 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 1: in Tropic Thunder, and by the looks of the humor, Indigger, 1131 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,680 Speaker 1: that is not what is the most appealing to me. 1132 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,480 Speaker 1: So I am worried because it kind of feels more 1133 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,080 Speaker 1: like a Wes Anderson. 1134 01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:56,080 Speaker 2: Feel to me. 1135 01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,880 Speaker 1: That is very deadpin Even some of the cinematography choices 1136 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,200 Speaker 1: I feel kind of have that Wes Anderson vibe. With 1137 01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:07,440 Speaker 1: all the characters and the cast in this looking pretty unrecognizable, 1138 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 1: there is nothing to me that says this is going 1139 01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,800 Speaker 1: to be a hilarious time at the theater. But I'm 1140 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,560 Speaker 1: more interested in Tom Cruise making a departure and doing 1141 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:20,200 Speaker 1: something completely different that is interesting to me. The trailer 1142 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,680 Speaker 1: that came out before this was a collection of all 1143 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 1: of his biggest movies, kind of honoring his legacy, really 1144 01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,040 Speaker 1: cueing this up for this movie. So that also tells 1145 01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,720 Speaker 1: me that they are really relying and thinking about all 1146 01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,640 Speaker 1: the movies he has done before this to maybe propel 1147 01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:41,880 Speaker 1: him to winning that Oscar, which we've seen recently with 1148 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,040 Speaker 1: actors like Timothy Shallomey who have thought, I have the 1149 01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,040 Speaker 1: next movie that is gonna win me an Oscar. They 1150 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:50,160 Speaker 1: get their nomination. It is so hard to win and 1151 01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,400 Speaker 1: not only has to do with how well your movie does, 1152 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,680 Speaker 1: which really that doesn't have a whole lot to do 1153 01:01:55,760 --> 01:02:00,400 Speaker 1: with it. It comes down to the people voting. Does Thecademy 1154 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,640 Speaker 1: want to finally honor him. It could be a case 1155 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,520 Speaker 1: like Leonardo DiCaprio. I don't think he deserved to win 1156 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,640 Speaker 1: for the revenue, but it was kind of his time. 1157 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,160 Speaker 1: They'd kept him from winning other years where he should 1158 01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,000 Speaker 1: have won, and finally were just like, Okay, we've messed 1159 01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,120 Speaker 1: up in the past, We're gonna give you an Oscar. 1160 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,520 Speaker 1: Could Digger be the movie that they finally say, all right, 1161 01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,560 Speaker 1: Tom Cruise, we want you to show up to our 1162 01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,360 Speaker 1: award show. We're gonna honor what you did in this 1163 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 1: movie and finally give you an Oscar. Because last year, 1164 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:34,360 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five, he did get an Honorary Academy Award, 1165 01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,880 Speaker 1: but he's been nominated four times. The first time was 1166 01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,920 Speaker 1: back in nineteen ninety for Best Actor for Born on 1167 01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,880 Speaker 1: the Fourth of July, didn't win. The next time, in 1168 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,720 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven, he was nominated for Best Actor for 1169 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:47,040 Speaker 1: Jerry Maguire. 1170 01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:47,680 Speaker 2: Didn't win. 1171 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:52,160 Speaker 1: The next time was two thousand, nominated for Best Supporting 1172 01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:56,600 Speaker 1: Actor for Magnolia, didn't win. And then in twenty twenty three, 1173 01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,040 Speaker 1: Top Gun Maverick was nominated for Best Pictures, so that 1174 01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,600 Speaker 1: a nomination directly for Tom Cruise, but that was really 1175 01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:07,640 Speaker 1: for Tom Cruise nominated but didn't win. So all those 1176 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,480 Speaker 1: nominations no Oscars. With this movie coming out in the 1177 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,360 Speaker 1: later part of the year, which is where you put 1178 01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 1: all your OSCAR contenders, I think he has a chance 1179 01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,960 Speaker 1: and it's probably going for another Best Actor nomination. 1180 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:21,520 Speaker 2: That's gonna be really tough. 1181 01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,280 Speaker 1: It's going to be a very competitive year, and I 1182 01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,840 Speaker 1: also think we are gonna see some out of pocket 1183 01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:30,880 Speaker 1: nominations this year. With Horror dominating in twenty twenty six, 1184 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,760 Speaker 1: I think we have to see it represented at the Oscars, 1185 01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,880 Speaker 1: so Best Actor is definitely gonna be tough. I think 1186 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,840 Speaker 1: this could be the year that the Academy finally says 1187 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,480 Speaker 1: we need to take horror seriously and hand out some 1188 01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,640 Speaker 1: awards or at least some nominations. 1189 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:47,280 Speaker 2: We're gonna be surprised this year. 1190 01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:49,960 Speaker 1: I think it is probably a shoe in for Best 1191 01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:53,520 Speaker 1: Makeup and Hairstyling. It could possibly get a nod for 1192 01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:58,320 Speaker 1: Best Picture and Supporting Categories, which it has a pretty 1193 01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:02,040 Speaker 1: stat cast. It has two of my Green Flag actors. 1194 01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:06,000 Speaker 1: Rizamed was fantastic in a movie I loved called The 1195 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,560 Speaker 1: Sound of Metal. I also really loved him in a 1196 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,320 Speaker 1: movie called Relay. If he is in a movie, great 1197 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,720 Speaker 1: indicator that it's going to be a good one. Also, 1198 01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,320 Speaker 1: as soon as I saw Jesse Plntman's in the trailer, 1199 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:20,800 Speaker 1: I thought, I'm in total Green Flag actor. You also 1200 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,880 Speaker 1: have John Goodman as the President of the United States, 1201 01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,320 Speaker 1: So all those people combined looks like a good time 1202 01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,360 Speaker 1: in the cast. Probably a fun movie to make on set, 1203 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,360 Speaker 1: and I think this movie is taking a really big swing. 1204 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,120 Speaker 1: But the problem is it could strike out really hard. 1205 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:41,240 Speaker 1: It all comes down to how the audience connects with 1206 01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:45,080 Speaker 1: this movie. Is Tom Cruise's charisma really going to come 1207 01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,680 Speaker 1: through in this character or is it going to be 1208 01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,960 Speaker 1: just a little bit too over the top. And I 1209 01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,320 Speaker 1: know a lot of people loved his character Les Grossman 1210 01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:57,280 Speaker 1: in Tropic Thunder, where that scene of him dancing at 1211 01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:01,400 Speaker 1: the end had everybody laughing. It was very memorable because 1212 01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,680 Speaker 1: we only saw Tom Cruise as the mission impossible guy, 1213 01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,440 Speaker 1: good looking guy, always run in somewhere at full speed, 1214 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,840 Speaker 1: and he is somebody I feel is very guarded with 1215 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:15,560 Speaker 1: how he looks on screen, but that was us seeing 1216 01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:17,240 Speaker 1: him in a way that was like, Tom Cruise is 1217 01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,800 Speaker 1: actually kind of fun having a good time, and we thought, 1218 01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,000 Speaker 1: why can't we get that movie? Now we are getting 1219 01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:26,880 Speaker 1: what we wished for, But sometimes do you want what 1220 01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,000 Speaker 1: you wish for? And in certain cases, I'll compare it 1221 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,000 Speaker 1: to the Minions. We all love the Minions indespicable me. 1222 01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,680 Speaker 1: They're so funny and memorable and anytime that are on 1223 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:38,640 Speaker 1: the screen, it's like a got The Minions are great. 1224 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,320 Speaker 1: And then when we got the Minions movie, we're like, Okay, 1225 01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,560 Speaker 1: this kind of gets a little bit tiring after thirty 1226 01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 1: to forty five minutes, even though I did enjoy the 1227 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,720 Speaker 1: last film, but it felt like a lot of a 1228 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,800 Speaker 1: good thing to me. This is kind of taking his 1229 01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:57,800 Speaker 1: character from Tropic Thunder and giving it a full feature film. 1230 01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,080 Speaker 1: Is it going to be too much of a funny thing. 1231 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,400 Speaker 1: Is it going to carry the entire time or is 1232 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,240 Speaker 1: it gonna get kind of annoying. There are some moments 1233 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,480 Speaker 1: where you kind of see Tom Cruise come out a 1234 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,760 Speaker 1: little bit, and I guess I just imagine this character 1235 01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,280 Speaker 1: as what he's like when all the lights go off, 1236 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,440 Speaker 1: when he's off cycle, not doing a movie, not promoting anything. 1237 01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,800 Speaker 1: I just imagine him going home and letting it all 1238 01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:27,080 Speaker 1: hang out, letting his hair go gray, letting his belly 1239 01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,480 Speaker 1: grow like it does, and digger where you see him 1240 01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,160 Speaker 1: towards the beginning of the movie just with his shirt 1241 01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:35,120 Speaker 1: of letting it all hang out. And Tom Cruise is 1242 01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:38,880 Speaker 1: also sixty four years old. He is my parents' age, 1243 01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,880 Speaker 1: and I kind of forget that this is the first 1244 01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,480 Speaker 1: time we've ever really seen him in a full length 1245 01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:48,520 Speaker 1: movie looking as close to his age as he ever has. 1246 01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:50,520 Speaker 2: Is it going to work? 1247 01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,360 Speaker 1: And he is not somebody who has strayed away from 1248 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,840 Speaker 1: changing his appearance drastically in movies. Obviously we've been talking 1249 01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,560 Speaker 1: about Tropic Thunder and Les Grossman. He transformed into Stacy 1250 01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:05,000 Speaker 1: Jackson Rock of Ages back in twenty twelve. I remember 1251 01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,840 Speaker 1: him going great for Collateral in two thousand and four 1252 01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:10,760 Speaker 1: even going back to nineteen ninety four interview with a 1253 01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:15,760 Speaker 1: vampire literally transformed into a vampire. So he has given 1254 01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,920 Speaker 1: us different looks through makeup and prosthetics throughout the years, 1255 01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:23,280 Speaker 1: but this by far is his most drastic transformation to date. 1256 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,040 Speaker 1: Is it going to payoff? Is he going to bring 1257 01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,040 Speaker 1: home that Oscar? Or is the idea of this movie 1258 01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,760 Speaker 1: just a little bit too out there, a little bit 1259 01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:35,120 Speaker 1: too ahead of its time instead of getting this great 1260 01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,480 Speaker 1: successful movie and winning all the Oscars. Is it just 1261 01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:42,320 Speaker 1: going to become a future cult classic. Either way, I'm 1262 01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,160 Speaker 1: excited he's taking a risk like this at this point 1263 01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,920 Speaker 1: in his career because I've not always been the biggest 1264 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:52,560 Speaker 1: fan of Tom Cruise, but in the twenty twenties I've 1265 01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:56,439 Speaker 1: greatly respected his commitment to putting out his theaters on 1266 01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,760 Speaker 1: the big screen and giving people that full cinematic experience, 1267 01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:03,880 Speaker 1: and in the process saved a lot of theaters from 1268 01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,560 Speaker 1: closing down and really putting a lot of momentum back 1269 01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:11,000 Speaker 1: into the movie industry. So I feel like, if we 1270 01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,520 Speaker 1: need to reward them in any way, it's by going 1271 01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:16,720 Speaker 1: to support this movie. But even as we've seen with 1272 01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:20,240 Speaker 1: some of the mission impossible movies. The final one in particular, 1273 01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,840 Speaker 1: is that I think we just don't care about a 1274 01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:27,240 Speaker 1: list actors like we used to, and just putting Tom 1275 01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:31,040 Speaker 1: Cruise's name on a movie doesn't guarantee success. Even though 1276 01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:34,240 Speaker 1: he's one of the most famous actors of our lifetime, we. 1277 01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:36,760 Speaker 2: Still need a little bit of something else. 1278 01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,599 Speaker 1: To get us out into a theater to pay money 1279 01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:43,599 Speaker 1: to go see this movie. And again, when it comes 1280 01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,600 Speaker 1: to comedy, sometimes that is a genre that we just 1281 01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:50,080 Speaker 1: don't want to spend money on. So I don't think 1282 01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,800 Speaker 1: this movie has the easiest road ahead, but it's swinging big. 1283 01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,960 Speaker 1: If it hits that ball out of the park, this 1284 01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:59,759 Speaker 1: could be one of the most important movies of his career. 1285 01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:01,960 Speaker 1: Or it could be in the movie he thinks. Man, 1286 01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,559 Speaker 1: who was I thinking with that one? But either way, 1287 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:08,160 Speaker 1: this movie is coming out on October second. We shall see. 1288 01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:12,880 Speaker 2: And that was this week's edition of Movie Mike Trailer. 1289 01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:17,879 Speaker 1: Bars, And that is gonna do it for another episode 1290 01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,599 Speaker 1: here of the podcast. But before I go, I gotta 1291 01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,639 Speaker 1: get my listeners shout out of the week. This week, 1292 01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:27,360 Speaker 1: I'm going over to TikTok and shouting out Danielle, who 1293 01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,679 Speaker 1: commented on my Mawana clip that I posted last week 1294 01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,800 Speaker 1: of the rock that blew up just a little bit. 1295 01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,280 Speaker 1: A lot of people call me a hater, but also 1296 01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:39,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people also agreeing with me. It was 1297 01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:43,240 Speaker 1: about fifty to fifty, which I'll take fifty to fifty sometimes, 1298 01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,479 Speaker 1: like when I post a Supergirl thing, Oh, it's like 1299 01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:49,760 Speaker 1: ninety ten. But Danielle said, I think what made the 1300 01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:53,160 Speaker 1: initial live action so popular was that they started with 1301 01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:56,280 Speaker 1: the older princess movies to help them come alive for 1302 01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:59,960 Speaker 1: a new generation. And besides a couple of things, everything 1303 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,240 Speaker 1: the thing was alive and set in beautiful locations. To 1304 01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:05,720 Speaker 1: this day, the live action Cinderella is one of the 1305 01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:09,160 Speaker 1: most beautiful settings of a movie. Now these quote unquote 1306 01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:12,479 Speaker 1: live actions aren't even live it's just a new form 1307 01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,959 Speaker 1: of animation, which defeats the whole point in my opinion. 1308 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:17,600 Speaker 2: Thank you, Danielle. 1309 01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,479 Speaker 1: That is exactly what I was trying to say last 1310 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,160 Speaker 1: week is there is no reason to make a live 1311 01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:27,400 Speaker 1: action movie when all of the best elements are just 1312 01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,800 Speaker 1: animated again in a different way that feels a little 1313 01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:35,439 Speaker 1: bit more realistic, but doesn't improve upon the animated version. 1314 01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,439 Speaker 1: And like you said here, Danielle, I feel like this 1315 01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:41,600 Speaker 1: trend began, even though they did it before, but it 1316 01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:45,320 Speaker 1: kind of really began with like twenty nineteen's The Lion King, 1317 01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,360 Speaker 1: and it made sense then that movie came out initially 1318 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:52,480 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety four, therefore coming out in twenty nineteen. 1319 01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,320 Speaker 2: A whole new generation. 1320 01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,439 Speaker 1: Of people, we're gonna get into that. Even thinking to 1321 01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,960 Speaker 1: when Disney Plus first launched with The Lady in the 1322 01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,680 Speaker 1: Tramp live action movie, that was introducing that movie to 1323 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:07,080 Speaker 1: a whole new generation. And now we're just getting movies 1324 01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,800 Speaker 1: that just came out ten years ago, and it's not 1325 01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:13,479 Speaker 1: doing anything different. They're giving facelifts to movies that don't 1326 01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:17,080 Speaker 1: need facelifts. They're still alive and youthful. Just go watch 1327 01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:20,200 Speaker 1: the original movie. So maybe they go back into the 1328 01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:23,479 Speaker 1: vault for the next live action movie. But I just 1329 01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,680 Speaker 1: hope that they pick some titles that actually benefit from 1330 01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,479 Speaker 1: this process and they are not just trying to make 1331 01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,559 Speaker 1: money off the same stories over and over again. So 1332 01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:36,680 Speaker 1: Danielle appreciate that comment. Thank you for listening, thank you 1333 01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:40,200 Speaker 1: for being subscribed, And until next time, go out and 1334 01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:43,519 Speaker 1: watch good movies and I will talk to you there