1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunts Rutt Fresh Radio, bringing you 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: the latest reports from the White Tailed Woods and now 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: your hosts, Casey Smith Tyler Jones. This is RUT Fresh 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: Radio powered by Vortex Optics. I'm your host, Casey Smith, 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: and today we're talking to hunters from across the country 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: who are dealing with some adverse warm weather conditions, but 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: they are hopeful for big bucks. This is Rutt Fresh Radio, 8 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 1: brought to you by Vortex Optics. I'm Tyler Jones. One 9 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: of your hosts. Casey Smith is the other guy you 10 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: hear from every once in a while on this thing, 11 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: and he's been hunting in Texas. Isn't that weird? Man. 12 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: Tex has some deer, but they usually don't come out 13 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: until like December, so I've been Actually, we have pretty 14 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: good little cold front for early season in Texas, so 15 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: I decided to try to capitalize on that. We'll talk 16 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: about all that here in a little bit, but right now, 17 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about how we refreshing. All right, It 18 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: is like so fresh right Nowaday, because I'm feeling that 19 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: refreshment suppens ash. You can see the clouds coming from 20 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,199 Speaker 1: the northwest. The wind is actually out of the east 21 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: right now. It's sucking to that front. I think it's 22 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: gonna switch taking one of the viral vortexas that go, 23 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: you know in a cyclone that uh yeah, is this 24 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: tornado alley. I believe we're at the stop sign at 25 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: the end of Tornado Alley right now. If that's I 26 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: guarantee you it will be a stop sign because Illinois 27 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: wants to tell you what to do. You wanna be 28 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: a yield, No, it won't be here. You just gave 29 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: it away. We're in Illinois right now. Buck trucking Alright, guys, 30 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: you all might have heard a little bit about this. 31 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: You're gonna hear a whole lot more about it soon. 32 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: But we've been buck trucking around the country, uh, doing 33 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: some video and doing some buck slaying and having a 34 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: ton of fun along the way. It can't wait to 35 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: share that with y'all. Uh. We've been in Nebraska, South Dakota. 36 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: Now we're headed to Illinois buck trucking around. Just some 37 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: good friends, going hunting, driving around a truck, which is 38 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: what all of us do. That the goal, that is 39 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: the way it works, man. The goals to do that, 40 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: plus have a couple old, big old just knocker heads 41 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: in the back, you know what I mean, just big 42 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: old suckers. So we're trying to find is uh some 43 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: big bucks here in Illinois and this is a place 44 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: where they live. Um. We've got some guys on the 45 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: podcast today that have also been chasing some big old 46 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: headed bucks running around and even a little bit of success. Man, 47 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: you know, funny enough. Maybe it's because I've blocked this out, 48 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: but I did not hear much about the October lull 49 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: this year. Did you hear much about the October low 50 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: people talking about that very much? I think there's been 51 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: a little bit, you know. Uh, I think there's an 52 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: article that Mark wrote recently about the October law. I 53 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: think he thinks it's real. Um. And then there's also 54 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: uh last all kinds of last week. You know, you 55 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: were doing a lot of hunting. I did a lot 56 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: of podcasts and with some fellers, and uh, there seemed 57 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: to be uh not like they were calling at the 58 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: October lew, but it definitely felt like it when I 59 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: was talking to him on the podcast, like they were 60 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: experiencing that low in action. So Tyler, uh, since you 61 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: kind of did a little tongue in cheek thing there 62 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: about the October law. You and I probably feel pretty 63 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: similar about this, but I would like to ask you 64 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 1: for your explanation of the perceived October law. I don't 65 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: believe in Halloween. That's good me neither. Actually I do 66 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: believe it exists, but I don't I don't celebrate it now. 67 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: But um, I think that with that being said, ghosts, 68 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: you know, are kind of not really a thing to me. 69 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: And uh, I think that those deer are actually they 70 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: don't disappear or turn into ghosts. I think they're actually 71 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: deer living on the landscape somewhere, and that they have 72 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: to be up during daylight hours at some point. Um. 73 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean they're not difficult to kill. Right, Nothing 74 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: is thing goes unexplained. There is an explanation for everything. Uh, 75 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: And perception is reality. So there is no such thing 76 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: as the lull, but you do perceive it sometimes. I 77 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: believe it is It has something to do with there's 78 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: is that a coudy or deer in the fat picture 79 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: right there? Not? Okay, So it's either perceived as you're 80 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: not adjusting to the new deer pattern quickly enough or um, 81 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: I kind of had a thought the other day that 82 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: these bucks go and readjust their home ranges, you know, 83 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 1: after the velvet sheds and the test oscarone starts ramping 84 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: up and all of a sudden, they're like, uh, just 85 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: they got their little danger zone right here, right, and 86 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: they don't want to venture out too far because they're 87 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: gonna have to fight. But they don't want anybody in 88 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: their zone either because they're gonna fight them, so like 89 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: they just might not move as far. Cue the music, 90 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: Welcome to the danger Zone, Welcome to it. That's right, 91 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: Miles Teller. Right here, dude, We're going down gonna kill 92 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: some big bucks in Illinois. Tyler. Who have we talked 93 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: to this week about big old But around the country, 94 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: the bobs that we've been that these guys been chasing 95 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: um are very real, and they've been in a couple 96 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: of states. We've been talking to Adam Kaufman from West Virginia, 97 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: Jordan Barnes from Kentucky. We're gonna hear from Alex Comstock 98 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, and Johnny Stewart not to be confused with 99 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:25,679 Speaker 1: Johnny Morris from Pennsylvania. Stewart, that's correct, never mind. Uh So, yeah, 100 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: we've got a lot of good reports from across the 101 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: country and actually some uh tactics that I appreciated learning 102 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: more about, honestly because um, I kind of get in 103 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: my groove of like the way I do things, and 104 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: it is good to hear from other people about like 105 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: the way they are hunting deer and how you can 106 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: use that even if it's not the area you're from. 107 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: You can take tactics used in elsewhere or in other 108 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: parts of the country and apply them to your certain situations. 109 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: So as a bonus this week, I'll tell you all 110 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: about Texas. You tell them about it, Dude, tell them 111 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: about it. Uh, Texas is a dust bowl right in 112 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: that place where you'll just do whatever and they go 113 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: running everywhere everywhere. They just actually put a high fence 114 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: up around the whole state. Just keep all the deer 115 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: in one spot. Now. Uh, there's actually some public ground 116 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: in Texas and it's wild, doesn't always have the highest 117 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: deer densities. And that's what I've been hunting. Uh. The 118 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: there's this thing, okay where you start seeing scrapes pop 119 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: up mid October, and I have decided that those scrapes 120 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: are liars. Okay, those scrapes are not real. You're just 121 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: imagining those things. Um, that's uh, that's a metaphorical version 122 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: of what I'm actually trying to say is that those 123 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: things can be misnomers or red herrings as some people 124 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: like to say. Okay, they can lead you astray from 125 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: the true reality of nature, and that is tiny bucks 126 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: like to get out there and get all ambitious, right, 127 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: But the big bucks they know exactly what they're doing, 128 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: and they ain't getting out there and hitting them scrapes 129 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: on October twelve. They're waiting, and you'll see a whole 130 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: bunch of these little scrapes pop up and then you'll 131 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: see them die. And that's because a little buck just 132 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,679 Speaker 1: got fired up. I wanted to do something there, but actually, uh, 133 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: there will be a big scrapes somewhere and start to 134 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: open up about this time of year, and I think that, 135 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: like the twenties of October is when you can actually 136 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: start looking and seeing which scrapes are staying active and 137 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: make some moves according to that. But I think that 138 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: I am going to start focusing on rubs more, which 139 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: sounds weird because I've always kind of not been too 140 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: big on that. But I learned this week. If you 141 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: find a particular type of rub, like a rub on 142 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: a big tree that looks like it has been hit 143 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: multiple times. Uh PTRs particular types of rubs. All right, 144 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: I like that too. We want to start using that. 145 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: And so you peter out there and you will find 146 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: that a shooter buck exists in the area and you 147 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: need to make moves according to that. So going forward, 148 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: I would say Texas is gonna be on the ramp up. Okay, 149 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: I would have given it pretty low scores last week, 150 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: but this upcoming week, I mean, we're looking at a 151 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: solid six, I think, and I think that's a pretty 152 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: good number, six out of ten man for East Texas 153 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: at least. You know, Texas has about seventeen quadrants, which 154 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: doesn't even make any sense if you actually think about it, 155 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: But it's a it's a real big place. So one 156 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: of your favorite things is when guys from different states 157 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: other than Texas, especially smaller ones, that they'll be like, yeah, 158 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: a's central you know whatever my state, and you're like, oh, well, 159 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: and I know three area comes bigger than your whole state, 160 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: so uh yeah, it's a big old spot. It's one 161 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: of your favorite things man to talk about, is how 162 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: these guys love to break those things down, you know, 163 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: try man, But I appreciate the specificity of spec specific 164 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 1: because it's so yeah, the specificness. Let's let's get to 165 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: some of our fellers here and see what's going on 166 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: around the country. I'm with Adam Kaufman of the Wild 167 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 1: Turkey Alliance. This dude just slocked a big old buck 168 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: in West Virginia. Adam, what's going on? Man? Well, it's 169 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: mine day, so it's active work in reality. So well, 170 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: you can't let the shine were off that fast, right, No, 171 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: you know I did. I killed it Thursday evening, so 172 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: I had the high all weekend and then it's BacT 173 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: reality to day. I got you. That's cool though, Man, 174 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: it looks like you've had a pretty good hunting season 175 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: up there so far. Um, what has been going on 176 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: in your neck of the woods, dear wise? Actually, it's 177 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: it's been a it's been a really nice October. You know. 178 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys next thing or not, 179 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: but my wife killed her first year, um the first 180 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: back in September. Then the first day actually so wow, 181 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: she really nicely living. So it was her first year 182 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: palm pound bow. It was like it's it's been a 183 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: good it's been a good season already. Boy, how do 184 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: you I tell you what? So? Uh? With with that 185 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: success already? I'm sure you kind of you know, you 186 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: can go two ways with this. You could have a 187 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: lot of pressure on yourself or you could just be 188 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: hunting free. You know. So did you go into hunting 189 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: this buck that you were after kind of with that 190 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: free spirit or were you really trying to get after him? 191 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: Actually it was her. It was her turn. I think 192 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: getting grief from her, you know, because she wanted her 193 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: first dear. And what's the cool thing about this for 194 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: he is she she missed this here in two thousand 195 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: nineteen is a three and a half year old. Wow. Yeah, 196 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: so this we were set up really trying to kill him. 197 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: But when this big eleven come in in September, I said, honey, 198 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: you can't pass this, dear, and she was like no, 199 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: and all all on video it was I can't you know? 200 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: That was my season then? And then this comes down 201 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: Thursday and I just I I couldn't ask her season. 202 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: But I don't go on vacation. I got on vacation 203 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: Monday for two weeks. So I feel I feel free 204 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,599 Speaker 1: to be honest with that's cool. So what was the 205 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: tactic you're using to capitalize on this big buck? Uh? 206 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: Gets close to him as I could. He's he has 207 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: been tough tactic man. Yeah, October, that's all you can 208 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: do my opinion, I don't hunt mornings in October. I'll 209 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: be honest, you not till late October, so I don't. 210 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: I try hunt less out more. Yeah, and my tactics. 211 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: So you were setting up close to bedding in the evening. Yeah, actually, 212 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't be surprised if I actually he 213 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: had when I heard him coming. He wasn't out. He's 214 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: bed for too long. But yeah, big calic on him. 215 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: That's how I can always tell they still got that 216 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: colic on their their rump, you know where they've kind 217 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: of been sitting sideways. That's how you know you're opposed 218 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: to bed Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's cool man. So 219 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: how do you how do you find his bed? Well, 220 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: I'd be scared to even know how many hours I 221 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: put into this deer and trying to find him in 222 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: and just getting my tail wiped by him. But I 223 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: started finding really really big rugs and I lost him 224 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: last year before he Rugby's help, so I've never seen 225 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 1: him my fall. And then I caught back up to 226 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: him as they usually doing the summer, and I started 227 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: finding his rubs there just about ten days ago. Massive 228 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: I knew he wasn't far. He's not going to go 229 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: somewhere far and do all that kind of signs, so 230 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: I knew it was close, and I started using seal 231 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: cam's a little deeper and keeping my other cameras that 232 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: I had to check further away from him, and I 233 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: was kicking him up so and he actually showed up 234 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: Thursday morning while I was at work, and I thought, man, 235 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: I've got to get in their evenings, so I did, 236 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: and the rest is history. Yeah, So so going forward, 237 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: are you are you? Would you continue trying to get 238 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: close two bucks like in the next week to their betting. 239 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: You know, it seems like right now the light switch 240 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: my cameras are really I'm getting bucks now that I 241 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: have never seen already. So seems me like, uh, it 242 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: seems like this is unfolding a little bit earlier in 243 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: what I'm used to you. Usually by Halloween weekend is 244 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: when this goes down, but it seems like it's starting 245 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 1: now a little early for me that I'm accustomed to, 246 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: and that's actually pretty exciting news. I know that. Uh, 247 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: I've seen a little bit of that as well. It 248 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: seems even with the hot temperature. I don't know if 249 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: y'all been having unseasonally worn temperatures there in Westerns. Yeah, 250 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: we have. We have the really cold mornings, the really 251 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: pretty afternoons, but then by even the sundown it is 252 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're reaching for that coat, you know. Now. 253 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: I know y'all are pretty far on the eastern side 254 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: of of the country, but a lot of the country 255 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: is gonna experience the weather front this week. Is that 256 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: gonna get to y'all? It is, but it doesn't It's 257 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: not going to be as big I like it if 258 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: I can get a ten degree temperature change from one day. 259 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: So it looks like Thursday for us is going to 260 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: be that day. It looks like it's gonna seventy five 261 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: or sixty three or something like that. But uh, if 262 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: I could see that coming, I want to be in 263 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: the woods that the next day for sure for sure. 264 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: So with that looming, are you gonna be still trying 265 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: to be close to bedding? You're hitting scrapes or what's 266 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: your your major tech. They're gonna be going forward. Honestly, 267 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,599 Speaker 1: going forward. I'm gonna I'm gonna be uh trying to 268 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: hunt these cruise right. So, we got a lot of 269 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, the big mountains and these these bucks like 270 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: the runne is what we call skidting log roads. These 271 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: these bucks like the thumb their horizontal around these mountains 272 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 1: and that's the way they like to run. That's cool. 273 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: I'm trying to find how to find some big rubs, 274 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 1: you know, and set up one of the scrapes and 275 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,599 Speaker 1: just wait, yep, man, sounds like you have got some 276 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: stuff in store coming up. Dude. It's an exciting time 277 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: of the year. If you had to rate the next 278 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: week of deer hunting coming up, if you're gonna rate 279 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: buck movement between the scale of one to ten, what 280 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: would you call it? Honestly, this week come up, I 281 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be hot between eight and ten. I 282 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: like this. I like this in my opinion and with 283 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: my experience with this time of the year, this area 284 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: coming up around Halloween is always I kill a deer 285 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: every year this time of year. Yeah, buddy, it's almost 286 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: in miss area. And now you know, when you start 287 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: getting that lockdown and it seems like things slow down 288 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: and you're really doing a lot of setting in the 289 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: stain and not see anything. And I really really like uh, 290 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: last of October. I do. I've always have man exciting times. 291 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: And I love the confidence you got, dude. I know 292 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a great hunt and we appreciate the 293 00:14:55,640 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: info absolutely. Thanks for having me, guys. M All right, 294 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: right now, I've got Jordan's Barnes with close proximity. He's 295 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: been hunting in Georgia. What's been going on, dude, And 296 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: not much just logging some all day sets and the swamps. Um, 297 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of looking around, a lot 298 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: of looking around every little noise. Yeah, and the squirrels 299 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: will get you this time of year, man, yeahs turkeys um, 300 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: but yeah, I've been in the deer pretty good. Uh, 301 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: pretty good so far this year. Just I'm just real 302 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: close to get air in a nice bug just has 303 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: been uh hadn't transpired yet, passed a lot of nice dear. Yeah, 304 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: you know, cruising mid morning, um, the middle of the day, 305 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: cruising down win a dough bet in Um, they're definitely searching. Cool. 306 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: So this is this is like you're near the coast 307 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: and this is this is pretty close to prime rut 308 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: for you. I'm sending so you are you hunting like 309 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: dough betting? A lot of times? Hunting that down wind 310 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: side or what? What's your main tactic hunter all day 311 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: every day? I don't. I don't care about sign really, Um, 312 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: I don't take really a whole lot of importance. I 313 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: mean this is crazy to some people, but it's how 314 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: I find the big deer. Um. I don't pay attention 315 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: to really hot sign freck sign. I pay attention to 316 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: dough betting. Like everything revolves around dough bedding for me, 317 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: doesn't matter if there's bigger ups there or not. Um, 318 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: I'm hunting down one side of the bedding, hunting to 319 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: exploit the tendency, and that's where I'm I'm getting on 320 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: all these big So in your neck of the woods, 321 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: what is dough betting like? When you're identifying that, whether 322 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: it's on a map or on the ground, how you 323 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: finding that? It could be clear cut, it could be 324 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: um tai tai bas uh, just any any change in 325 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: habitat that. I mean a lot of times, to be honest, y'all, 326 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: I'll walk um miles late season and identify where I'm 327 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: jumping those family groups and that's all I need. And 328 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: then I'll go back in there at the right time 329 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: of year and just hunt down wind of it. Um. 330 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: You know, we got a lot of a lot of 331 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: north stuff right now, so I've got you know, I'll 332 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: get on the down wind signed out for north, and 333 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: then if it switches on me and goes south, southwest, southeast, 334 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: I'll just rotate to get on the down wind side 335 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: of it on a different angle. Are you Uh, I'm 336 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: really interested in this because we're about to go. You know, 337 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: we're a little bit behind where we're headed of what 338 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: you're talking about rut fast wise. Uh, but are you 339 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: trying to sandwich those bucks between you and the dough bedding? Like, 340 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: are you sitting up like twenty yards south of the 341 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: trail you expect the down wind Let me say that 342 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: of the trail you expect the deer to be on. 343 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: Are you sitting up on the trail or up wind 344 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: of it? Or how do you really configure that? So 345 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: I'm just basically I've noticed that. Um. Sometimes you might 346 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: have like the weather forecast might be let's say the 347 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: weather forecast is well, let's just start off. I don't 348 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: want to I'm not trying to take the fall y'all's time. 349 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: But let me try to explain it this way. Um. So, 350 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: let's say you get the weather and it says, okay, 351 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: I want to go hunt down wind of this type 352 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: said bay, and it pinches right next to a slue 353 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: or something, or it's a kine thicket. It pinches next 354 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: to a slue, all right, and I see there's like 355 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: a I'm gonna I'm gonna say it's the north wind, 356 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna hunt the south side of that, all right. 357 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: Um Well, sometimes let's say it's it could be a 358 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: south wind, and that's that might be the wrong wind. 359 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: But the first four or five hours the day, if 360 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: it's real calm, the thermals might suck to still pull 361 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: down wind. So I sometimes I'll still hunt it that 362 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: first portion and then I'll get down getting the boat 363 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: or get down walk the bank out or something and 364 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: get on the other side of it for lunch, like 365 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: once the day when start. So it's just the main 366 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: thing to grasp or that that I try to put 367 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: a handle on. It's just making sure I'm down wind 368 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: and just be down winded where those does are spending 369 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,479 Speaker 1: their time where there and that then that can change 370 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: throughout the years sometimes, but typically wherever I'm jumping, if 371 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: I walk late season, I'm jumping a bunch of Doe 372 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: family groups. I'm jumping up early season in the summer, 373 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: I'm jumping up late season. That's a perennial dough betting area, 374 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: and that's going to get my attention more so than Oh, 375 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: here's a bunch of rubs and scrapes somewhere. Yeah. And 376 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: you don't hear many people talking about dough beatting right now, 377 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: And it's definitely something I've used to kill deer on two. 378 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: I like it a lot. So I'm glad you're talking 379 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: about this now going forward in the next week or so. 380 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: I know, you know in the South, the rut trickles 381 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: a little harder than it does in the Midwest and 382 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: up no Earth, But um, are you gonna still employ 383 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: the same tactics? Do you like that going forward? And 384 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: and do you feel comfortable saying that they're gonna be 385 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: moving pretty good? Um checking with dough batting next week? Absolutely? Man, 386 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: I mean that's that is the main sentences. Um. I 387 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 1: mean that's what we're really trying to exploit. I think 388 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: everybody's got different little ways that they you know, strategy 389 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: they go about it. But to me, I mean that's 390 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: the meat and potatoes of of of exploiting the bucks tendency. Yea, 391 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: so fast majority of the year, got your different days 392 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: will come in estres, you know everything. She didn't get bread, 393 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: Like in the South, there's so many does. Everybody wants 394 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: to pass the ten does to shoot the buck. So 395 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: a lot of times what happens is if they don't 396 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: get bread. Obviously you don't know this, they don't get 397 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: bread that first cycle, they'll come in in about twenty 398 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,479 Speaker 1: eight days later. So it's it's just a trickle man. 399 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna keep hunting that that same tendency. Sure, 400 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: so scale of one to ten, what do you say 401 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: buck movement will be like they're on the coastal marshes 402 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: of Georgia next week, Well, um uh, I guess Saturday 403 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: I had a shooter, you know for down here, I 404 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: mean mature buck, you know, probably hoping young on a 405 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: dove like full all out. So I'm sure some of 406 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: them bucks will lock down, But for the most part 407 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: of me, it's gonna be a lot of cruising, a 408 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: lot of late morning cruising all day, middle of the day, 409 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: two o'clock and me it happened any second, um, and 410 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: that pretty much stayed pretty consistent throughout. You know, I 411 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: guess the rest of October, first part of November got you. 412 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: So if you had to put a number on it, 413 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: one to Tim, what do you think, I'd say? It's high? 414 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: Like I mean, right now is the time of bend 415 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: the woods. Ten. I mean, if you're in the middle 416 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: of o you're in South Georgia and you're not in 417 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: the trigger right now, you should be all right, dude. Well, 418 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: thanks for the report, man, and we'll be talking to 419 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: you soon. Yeah, man, all right, I got Alex Comstock 420 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 1: from whitetailed d n A. What's happening man, you've been 421 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: in Minnesota lately? Huh. Yeah, I've been spending a lot 422 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: of time in the woods here in Minnesota, but I've 423 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: been seeing much dear. Yeah, you know, you ever heard 424 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: of the Headless Horseman comes out around Halloween? You've you've 425 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: been dealing with anything like that lately? You know, it 426 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: doesn't really ring a bell, but oh man, I feel 427 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: for you. Um, sometimes you find out that the big 428 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: buck your chasing gets shot. I actually found that out 429 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: last year around my house, So I know what it 430 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: feels like. It's not a good feeling, but you've still 431 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: been out there after him. What what exactly are you 432 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: kind of focusing on right now when you think about 433 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: tactically how to harvest a big buck in Minnesota right now? Yeah, 434 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: i'men kind of you know, in the last week or so, 435 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: been focusing on just areas, been trying to push close 436 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: to bedding, trying to find scrapes that are you know 437 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: what I would call close to bedding and not just scrapes. 438 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: So I think we're getting hit at night. Um. You know, 439 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: here we had a pretty good acorn crop, but being 440 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: as far north as we are, the acorn is pretty 441 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: much got decimated and I'll dropped for really early, like 442 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: late September. Um, so um, I'm really just trying to 443 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: focus in on getting pushing close to bedding. UM, you know, 444 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: trying to find those scrapes, and it's been it's been 445 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: tough because I haven't really been able to find um 446 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: much as far as daylight activity has been going. So yeah, 447 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: how how how are you finding or what do you 448 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: assume you know, how are you making the assumption of betting? 449 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: I guess, um a mix of just you know, I've 450 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: where I hunt. It's uh, it's you know, a suburban area. 451 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: And so I can do quite a bit of walking 452 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: in the woods on types of trails um, stonebile trails, 453 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: hiking trails without being invasive and can you know, for 454 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: like example, I actually was out hanging camps last week 455 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: and was walking a smobile trail and kicked up the 456 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: buck that I one of the bucks up and after 457 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: and he was betted, you know, four yards off the 458 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: stomobile trail. So I didn't really do any harm. Um, 459 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: but I boom Newers betted right there, and um, stuff 460 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: like that essentially. Um, and then just trying to get 461 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: into areas that you know, um finding if I can't 462 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: find a type of food source and trying to you know, 463 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: backtrack essentially. But um, that's pretty much what I've been 464 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: doing up here in Minnesota. Given an old to effect 465 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: into necting boom, you know I could play yet. So uh, 466 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: that urban thing is really interesting because you're not like 467 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: hunting backyard deer, but you're hunting deer that are Uh, 468 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: you know in urban zones, right, and so pressure is 469 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: just different in that stuff. And I kind of want 470 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: to pick your brain about that just a little bit. Uh. 471 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: You know, you say, you bump that deer off the 472 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: Snowbyville trail, but I'm sure he's used to people. But 473 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: at the same time, you never know when some you know, 474 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: memile has walked your dog down the same trail and 475 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: it's bumped him like that day. So how do you 476 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: kind of do you have specific days of the week 477 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,959 Speaker 1: that you feel are better in those type situations are 478 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: like how are you navigating that? Yeah, it's it's a 479 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: super tricky um topic of discussion. We could probably do 480 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: an hour long podcast on it, but you know, it's 481 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: it's it's so true. And the fact that you know, 482 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: what I found is if you're on these trails, you know, 483 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: deer so used to they know where the trails are, 484 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: they're used to people going by. It's when you stop 485 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: or if you venture off the trails is when they know. 486 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: I me so that buck. We caught a glimpse of 487 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: them as we were walking by them, were already passed them, 488 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: And if we would have just kept walking, I guarantee 489 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: he would not you know, given two cares in the world. 490 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: The fact that we stopped backed up, We're like, ohly crap, 491 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: looking at you and throw your bios up and then 492 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: immediately you knew something was up and he just you know, 493 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: out of there. So it's a kind of a catch 494 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: twenty two. But it does also allow me to walk 495 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: through and you know, I can scout by taking these 496 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: trails and jump off the trail, checking herr out back 497 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: on the trail. And it's just the pressure is the 498 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: way way you put it is good is different. And 499 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: I found that, you know, the early morning, late evening 500 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: when the least time people are on the trail is 501 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: one dear, you know, most active, they're most likely to 502 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: get up and start you know, crossing some of these 503 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: trails and whatnot. Yeah, makes sense, makes sense. So going forward, 504 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: what are you gonna be focusing on in the next 505 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: week or so. I'm trying to find as much deer 506 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: sign as possible. I've been um pretty much every sit 507 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: I've been in a different tree, just going with the 508 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: saddle and you know, looking for signs and scrapes, and 509 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, until we've got a ton of cell cams 510 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,239 Speaker 1: out and they've just been dead. So as long as 511 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 1: though stayed dead, I'm just hunting for scrapes right now, 512 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: back where I believed you're embetted, not just you know, 513 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: to translate to other people, You're not just like feel 514 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: edge scrapes, you know, essentially, um, you know, trying to 515 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: get back into the cover and if you can find those, 516 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: you know, seemingly active scrapes, I think now. And obviously 517 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna start, um, you know, focusing on doors here 518 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: pretty quick. So kind of that kind of combination. Yeah, 519 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: So with that in mind, and weather and moon and 520 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: whatever else you consider. Typically when you like to think 521 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: about hyping for whitetail, what would you assume buck movement 522 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: will be like based on a scale of one to 523 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: ten in the next week. You know, I'm hoping we 524 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 1: can get over a five, so I'm gonna go six. Um, 525 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: it's been warm here, it's been pretty warm. I mean, 526 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: we're we're pushing seventy yesterday, which where I'm at Northern 527 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: Minnesota is really really warm. I don't know how to 528 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: do it right, does sounds I mean, that does sound 529 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: like it would be kind of a downer, uh for y'all. 530 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: It's it's not it's not ideal. I mean, and but 531 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 1: we've got in the next week. You know, we've got 532 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: tempts pushing down where highs during the forties lows during 533 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: the twenties. So yeah, i'd call that, you know, um, 534 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: typical weather. It's not like below averages, I wouldn't say, 535 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 1: but we're getting to get good weather and the timing, 536 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: you know, the time of year, so I'm hoping with 537 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: how bad it's Ben is bound to pick up. So 538 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and give her a six. All right, dude, 539 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: Well that sounds like promising, you know, it's very realistic, 540 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: but promising. It's that time of year. Man. I appreciate 541 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: you getting on with us. I hope that this picks 542 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: up for you and you get to get a crack 543 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: at a deer up there, because I know it means 544 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: a lot to you work really hard at it. Appreciate 545 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: what you do, man, and and hopping on the phone 546 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: with us as well. So uh, I hope things go 547 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: well for you the rest of the season. Absolutely appreciate it. 548 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: And good luck to you guys as well. All right, 549 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: now on the phone, we've got Johnny Stewart not to 550 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: be confused with the guy that owns bass pro shops. 551 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: This is a guy in Pennsylvania who is a public 552 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: land dear killer. He's a good unner, Johnny. What's been 553 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: going on, man Um? Not much, trying to get a 554 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: little hunting in. UM. Just kind of what's that time 555 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: of year, wait and wait for the rut? Yeah, So 556 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: talk about what kind of habitat you typically are hunting. 557 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: Is it hill country or what's it look like? Actually Pennsylvania, 558 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: I live near Pittsburgh, I travel, I have a camp north. 559 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: I've been putting a lot of time into there. But 560 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: it's hard when you know you don't live close to 561 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: where you're hunting. But it's mountain bocks. But actually the 562 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: area UM, some people can get confused with mountains. Um 563 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: it is the considered allegating mountain change. But kind of 564 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: area I'm hunting this really flat gradual um kind of 565 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: they called the plateaus. Makes it kind of difficult not 566 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: having the terrain. I feel like it's easier to hunt terrain, 567 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: not easier. It's all hard when you're hunting in the mountains. 568 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: But UM, a lot of brows up in that area. 569 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: No mask UM some areas of mass but no acorns 570 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: this year, and the beach were produced in the last 571 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: few years and nothing's happening. So it's pretty much hunting 572 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: browsing deer that him a lot. So it's a it's 573 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: a challenge, but I like it. Yeah, No, that sounds 574 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: a lot like where we hunt. We hunt for real 575 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: flat country too. If you see a if you if 576 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: you hear somebody say, hey, over over on that ridge 577 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: in our country. Um, it's like a six inch rise, 578 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's like you can't really 579 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: see it. You just gotta walk up on it. And 580 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: there's no water there, you know. So I understand that 581 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: flat roaming, uh brows country because we've got the same 582 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: type of stuff down here and it makes it difficult 583 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: and and like you said, the the elevation helps to 584 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: kind of funnel deer. So let's talk a little bit 585 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: about what you focus on. I mean, it sounds like 586 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: beach was something you were looking at, um, But what 587 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: do you typically focus on this time of year? So 588 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: a big thing for me is hunting pressure. So they 589 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: just had here in po Up where I hunt is 590 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: that was a riffle bear or muzzle loader. There was 591 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: an orange army out and they're hitting the clear cuts 592 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: and pushing all the good habitat which a lot of 593 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: people like to go to. But I kind of just 594 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: I like that. I feel like the bigger deer that 595 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm hunting or going to just satellite them areas, maybe 596 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: hit him at night. Um, they're just kind of like 597 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: a different creature. They don't want to be bothered at all. 598 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,719 Speaker 1: And the weather was a little bit warm, so um 599 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: getting down your creek bottoms sometimes that's tough with the 600 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: winds maybe swirling. But um, I find a lot of 601 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,479 Speaker 1: these deer are always sent check in the areas, especially 602 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: this time of year with those coming into heat and 603 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: other bucks in their area. Um, like the biggest beer 604 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: deer I find will be like the furthest down wind 605 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: on a flat like I got like a flat dinner. 606 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: Gradually there is elevation change. Maybe there yam at maybe 607 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: a hundred feet UM, and then further downstream you can 608 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: keep falling the creek to where you can get to 609 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: four feet elevation, but that's like miles downstream. It's like, 610 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: um from the top where um it's a watershed on 611 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: each side of the flat. But they're just they're they're 612 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: lazy and not lazy. I find how they're they're they're 613 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: their navigation is just very efficient through the woods, not 614 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: going at this time of year when the rut isn't 615 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: happening yet. Um just kind of you think something. You 616 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: see rubs on a flatness and that sign you think. Sometimes, Um, 617 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: there are deer to travel a night A lot. I 618 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: find deer to travel mouth checking the scrapes and different 619 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: areas where they're gonna read those. And I'm like, this 620 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: one deer I hunting. He's just I think he's hanging 621 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: out right there and claiming that territory and not just 622 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: kind of just getting He's just like a satellite. He's there, 623 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: he knows what's going on. He's got a mile away. 624 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: But like I said, all personality typing the deer itself. 625 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: Some of them used to travel a lot, but sometimes 626 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: the older ones kind of know where they want to 627 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: be and just hang out and uh so, yeah, I've 628 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: just been checking. I was. I just got home from 629 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: up there, and I was up there. I've got a 630 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: lot of cameras running and mainly in areas where I 631 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: can check, um without bumping deer, where I'm kind of 632 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: know where maybe he's feeding at night on my bump 633 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: a dough here or there. But to gauge where the 634 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: um you know, whether where they starting to daylight or 635 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: are still nighttime. UM, So I just keep an eye 636 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: and then when I hunt now, I usually hunt the 637 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: four light um my most productive, and sometimes I go 638 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: in at light. It's kind of like a toss up, 639 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: which is better because sometimes, um, you're going before lighting. 640 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: It's a calm, heavy frost and maybe they were hanging 641 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: out right there since it's so flat and they roam 642 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: and they're brows that you gotta be careful bumping them. 643 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: Tough to get in. Sometimes going in after light, but 644 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: I'll get out at noon or ten eleven whenever I 645 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: feel I'll check cameras, studying my map, my sparting forward. 646 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: I'm always looking at that and deciding just really fine 647 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: tune it, always learning, never stopped scouting and finding. I'm 648 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm kind of looking for that dough that comes into 649 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: heat around the end of October because I know there 650 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: are very few of them. Yeah, I'm finding a And 651 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: I asked the other hunters, you're seeing the scrape, you've 652 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: seen it? Not yet? They just started. So what I've 653 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: been scraping myer, So to me, that's telling me like 654 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: going to happen. So yeah, man, we're coming up on 655 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: that week for sure, and uh, that'll really look forward 656 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: to that late October stuff. And I know you do too. 657 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: If you were going to look at kind of what 658 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: you had coming up, Uh you know, what's the one 659 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 1: thing that you're going to concentrate on? And then if 660 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: you could predict dear movement on a scale to one 661 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: to ten over the next week, what would that look like? 662 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 1: So I think the number one I'm gonna go back 663 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: up and hunt this upcoming week. Um, whether they're gonna 664 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: be a little warm, but I think I'm gonna just 665 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: look with him scrapes, Um, see where the where the 666 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: rubs are? I feel like that bucks close, staying tight, 667 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: watch your wind. Um, they're still not out of your mind, 668 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: out of their skull and and they're gonna be using 669 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: that wind and you're gonna play the edge. You get 670 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: sent free and and you know, get ready for him 671 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: to start chasing. Does what from a scale to one 672 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: to team, what's it gonna be? Man, I'd say about 673 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,919 Speaker 1: six and a half. Oh yeah, I got some hats 674 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: he's in there, Johnny. There's a bunch of people that 675 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: are mad at me right now because I said the 676 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: owner of ass Pro is Johnny Steart. I realized that 677 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: Johnny Morris. Uh, that's say, man, you can owns pro 678 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: shops too, even though your name is there. Hey, thanks 679 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 1: for it hopping on the phone with this man giving 680 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:13,439 Speaker 1: us a good report. Yeah, no problem. If you can't 681 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: tell the big buck hype is real this time of year, guys, 682 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: October is when things start happening, and it's super exciting. 683 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: Things have happened for us lately. Actually, we had a 684 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: buddy of ours kill a really big buck over a 685 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: scrape in South Dakota that videos on the Element channel 686 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 1: if you want to check out kind of how that went. 687 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: And then we actually go in depth on the Element 688 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,240 Speaker 1: podcast as well and talk about some of those tactics 689 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: involved with hunting scrapes in October. And by the way, 690 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon poses the question in a recent article on 691 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: Wire to Hunt of if October is the new November 692 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: for deer hunters. I don't know how I'm more with 693 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: that I am. You might want to go read what 694 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: Mark has to say about that these things can really 695 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: help you as we push into November because guess what, guys, 696 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: that's the rut. This is rout fresh, Keep it fresh.