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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Zarn Elizabeth, What up, Clyde?

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Speaker 3: How you doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing pretty well? All right, yeah, glad to be

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Speaker 2: back by your side. How you doing?

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Speaker 3: I am so good? Thank you, sir. I look all right,

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Speaker 3: you look great. Yeah. I just want to make sure

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Speaker 3: Dave you good today.

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Speaker 2: I'm good.

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Speaker 3: All right? Good. Listen, listen, fella. You know it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: I do, yes, I totally do. I Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: do I know? Okay, there was a drink called the American. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you ever heard of this?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It was a drink that was the favorite drink of

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Speaker 2: Andre the Giant.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Carrie always once told uh Vanity Fair about this, and

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Speaker 2: he said the quote, the famed wrestler preferred something stiffer,

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Speaker 2: specifically the American. What is the American, you asked, Elizabeth.

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Speaker 3: I'm scared.

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Speaker 2: It was forty ounces of various liquors poured into a picture.

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Speaker 3: Forty ounces forty ounces to freedom ride.

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Speaker 2: There, Yes, and apparently he would just chug these, right,

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Speaker 2: But that's not all. He also was known to drink.

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Speaker 2: So all of his wrestling buddies, they all have drink

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Speaker 2: like these crazy stories that I'm drinking hard liquer, brown liquor.

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Speaker 2: Here's another one for you. Andre the Giant, right, he's

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Speaker 2: gonna go on a bus ride and in Japan he's

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Speaker 2: like on a wrestling tour. Now, Hulk Hogan tells this story.

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, I went down to this little.

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Speaker 4: Karaoke bar right down the street from the hotel, and

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Speaker 4: I bought a case of pooy Fuse wine, twelve bottles. Brother,

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Speaker 4: this very powerful, powerful, strong white French wine. All of

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Speaker 4: a sudden, we left the hotel about eight in the

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Speaker 4: morning for an eight hour bus ride. About three hours later,

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Speaker 4: he shakes the seat. He says, buss bus and he

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Speaker 4: pitched up. Three hours on the bus, he drank twelve

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Speaker 4: bottles of wine.

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Speaker 2: Twelve bottles Elizabeth.

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Speaker 3: Twelve bottles, brother, dude, do you know how much liquor that? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but like, stop back up for a second. These big

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Speaker 3: wrestler men went and bought white wine.

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Speaker 2: Poyus wine. I like twelve POIFU say.

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Speaker 3: He's like givity buttery shard. No, I'll take the.

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Speaker 2: French stuff, brother. So he also at the Tampa Airport,

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Speaker 2: he apparently drank one hundred and eight twelve ounce beers

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Speaker 2: another Hulk Colgan.

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Speaker 3: No, that's not true.

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Speaker 2: Holgan said he sat down and watched him drink and

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Speaker 2: he counted them.

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Speaker 3: His do rags too tight, there's more than eight.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there's way more. He wants drink. No gallungs, Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you the the the numbers. Look up Andre

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Speaker 2: the giants drinking, and your eyes will fall exaggeration. Yes,

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Speaker 2: well there you go.

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Speaker 3: That's ridiculous, ridiculous. There's just no way. Do you want

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Speaker 3: to know what else is ridiculous? Signal jacking again? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: this is ridiculous crime A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers,

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Speaker 3: ice and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder free

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Speaker 3: and one hundred percent ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Damn.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember when I told you about the Max

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Speaker 3: Headroom broadcast interruption?

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Speaker 2: Yes, of course you remember that, Yeah, totally. I was here,

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Speaker 2: you were there.

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Speaker 3: What was your third favorite part?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Probably the impressions that you did.

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Speaker 3: Sure when I told you that story. I also told

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Speaker 3: you about Captain Midnight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you did.

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Speaker 3: And that's the guy that was protesting the HBO rate increase.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, he ran that.

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Speaker 3: I ran that satellite place in Central Florida.

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Speaker 2: Central Florida.

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Speaker 3: So I told you about the whole concept of broadcast interruption.

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Speaker 2: It's cool, it's cool, totally.

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Speaker 3: Legal, totally cool, totally illegal. When someone hijacks a broadcast signal,

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Speaker 3: radio television stations, cable TV, broadcast feeds, satellite.

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Speaker 2: Signals, signal piracy, one might call it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's without permission, no license. And this goes from

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Speaker 3: like local TV and radio all the way up to

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Speaker 3: cable and national tip top zaren it goes all the

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Speaker 3: way to the top. So radio stations they get hit

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Speaker 3: more often than TV stations because it's easier to do.

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Speaker 3: And while it seems like it would be harder to

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Speaker 3: hijack a digital signal than like the old analog, there

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Speaker 3: is such a thing as cyber attacks. Zerin think of that.

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Speaker 2: I think I've heard about those.

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Speaker 3: No one is safe there and the hackers.

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Speaker 2: They're attacking Elizabeth, the cybers.

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Speaker 3: You know who might be safe for like streaming services, Yes,

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Speaker 3: but maybe you can hack that. Hackers can do anything.

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Speaker 2: And oh yeah, I believe in the hackers and the robots,

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Speaker 2: so do I.

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Speaker 3: The nanobots and the nanobot hackers in my bloodstream. It's

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Speaker 3: pretty much a victimless crime. This whole signal signal jacking,

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Speaker 3: but a crime, nonetheless, Flower nonetheless. Of course, Ginsburg would say,

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Speaker 3: I told you about two before. I got a bud

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Speaker 3: more for you. We're revisiting, going back to the well

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Speaker 3: and bring it all back there it is. Let's start

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Speaker 3: with some spicy stuff like spicy.

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Speaker 2: I'm like Doune over here.

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Speaker 3: I love the spice the Playboy channel.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I'm starting out slice.

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Speaker 3: It was Sunday, September sixth, nineteen eighty seven. Ah, yes,

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Speaker 3: folks were sitting down to watch a movie called Three

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Speaker 3: Daughters airing on the Playboy channel. Lord, let me read

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Speaker 3: you this, SNOPSI.

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Speaker 2: Please, please, do you want me to read it to you?

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Speaker 3: Three sisters are budding sexually.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, they got budding into the act quickly.

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Speaker 3: Michelle finds love with her fiance, Jennifer falls for her

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Speaker 3: piano instructor, and Heather invites her tennis instructor her best

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Speaker 2: Oh I miss that angle? How could I miss that?

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Speaker 3: All This romance rekindles their parents' marriage.

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Speaker 2: I smell.

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Speaker 3: It was written and directed by a woman named Candida Royale.

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Speaker 2: That's a loveliness and.

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Speaker 3: According to IMDb. She was also known for her role

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Speaker 3: as protester in the film stud Hunters. This all sounds

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Speaker 3: so wholesome to you wrote for Playboy.

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Speaker 2: You know about this, I did write for I was

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Speaker 2: for years hired by the smut puddler. It were, I

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Speaker 2: was the smut peddler. I guess people.

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Speaker 3: They settled in to watch Three Daughters, and then suddenly

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Speaker 3: the screen went from my alma mater. The screen went

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Speaker 3: blank in the middle of Three Daughters. Wait, what's going

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Speaker 3: to happen with the teacher?

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Speaker 2: If the parents will really rekindle their.

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Speaker 3: Lives, she's going to explore lesbian love like it's like

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Speaker 2: She's got her passport. Yes, let the girl in.

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Speaker 3: Then text appeared, Thus saith the Lord, thy God, remember

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Speaker 3: the Sabbath and keep it holy, repent. The Kingdom of

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Speaker 3: Heaven is at hand. You know we got it's a

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Speaker 3: little bit of the Exodus, a little bit of Matthew

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Speaker 3: a little after So that's one way to take the

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Speaker 2: But the Old Testament really a sexy book. I mean

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot there really is. I think this is hilarious.

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Speaker 3: Obviously I'm finding this hilarious. But the FCC did not.

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Speaker 3: Oh right, they thought they thought it was a cry.

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Speaker 3: I know. I just think about like some of the

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Speaker 3: people watching this would have some sort of like Christian

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Speaker 3: guilt for watching this smut.

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Speaker 2: I put a high percentage, and.

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Speaker 3: Like watching the marriage, gimmy kindled yes, and then I

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Speaker 3: have like a Bible message come up, just like, oh

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Speaker 3: since the message was religious in nature, the FCC immediately

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Speaker 3: the Christian Broadcasting Network.

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Speaker 2: That was actually a good hunch on their part.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh. They had motive means opportunity. And it turns

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Speaker 3: out that jamming the signal left trace technical clues.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, of course those.

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Speaker 3: Clues showed up. It showed up is on the VHS

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Speaker 3: recording made at the Playboy channel's uplink during the broadcast.

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Speaker 3: So apparently they were like, three daughters, looks really good,

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Speaker 3: let's tape this while we're playing so they can take

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Speaker 2: Recording their own content.

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Speaker 3: The VCR is flashing twelve. They're just like, I'll see

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Speaker 3: this later. I want to know what happens with the

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Speaker 3: piano teacher. I love the work of Candida.

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Speaker 2: Royal, one of like my favorite, so a real.

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Speaker 3: Basically, it left a fingerprint on the video and then

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Speaker 3: there were fingerprints on the video case because this allowed

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Speaker 3: the character generator video. Yes, yes, it was like the

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Speaker 3: metadatas we'd say. Now, so they had CBN dead to rights.

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Speaker 3: They're like, it's the Christians. And who was the uplink

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Speaker 3: engineer at the CBN offices in Virginia Beach, Virginia when

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Speaker 3: the hijacking went down. No fellow by the name of

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Speaker 3: Thomas Haney, Tommy Haney. So CBN said that there were

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Speaker 3: then they had this investigation and experts on each side

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Speaker 2: It again.

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Speaker 3: They're like, put in three daughters, do it again. So

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Speaker 3: apparently neither side was successful in so they just had

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Speaker 2: The text generator again, turn it on, turn it off.

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Speaker 3: But a CBN spokesman named Dino McCann, he said there

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Speaker 3: was just not enough power for Haney to jam Playboy's signal.

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Speaker 3: He is like, they are but large goliath, Playboy, and

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Speaker 3: we are David, a small mustard seed. And but then

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Speaker 3: like the expert witnesses, it went to trial, and the

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Speaker 3: expert witnesses were like, no, that's so not true. He's no,

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Speaker 3: they have the power more than just the power of

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Speaker 3: the Lord.

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Speaker 2: They can do this, They can push a signal.

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Speaker 3: And so, after initially being deadlocked not dreadlocked, the jury

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Speaker 3: found Hany guilty on two of six counts against him.

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Speaker 3: He was acquitted of similar charges against him for interfering

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Speaker 3: with American Ecstasy channel and that has three x'es e

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Speaker 3: x xtasy. It was like one of the real like

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Speaker 3: that's got to be some gnarly.

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Speaker 2: Past Playboy on the dial.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's got to be like the oh dear, yes, goodness,

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Speaker 3: he went after American Ecstasy and they were like, you know,

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Speaker 3: they were too powerful. Who knows whatever he gets acquitted

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Speaker 3: of those The recording of the hijacking for American Ecstasy

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Speaker 3: was so low that it couldn't be used in court.

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Speaker 2: The recording apparently they.

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Speaker 3: Were recording it too. They were playing six Daughters.

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Speaker 2: Anythink the same tape over and over again. Got so bad.

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Speaker 3: The quality of the tape was bad, and it probably

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Speaker 3: also refers to the subject matter. Oh yeah, I got so.

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Speaker 3: Haney got three years of probation, one thousand dollars fine,

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Speaker 3: and one hundred and fifty hours of community service. He

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Speaker 3: was the first person convicted under a new federal law

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Speaker 3: that made it satellite hacking a felony. Following the Captain

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Speaker 3: Midnight incidents changed set. There was more porno interruption the

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Speaker 3: next year, although this one was the reverse. Okay, so

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Speaker 3: it was October fifteenth, nineteen eighty eight, during the second

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Speaker 3: inning of Game one of the nineteen eighty eight World Series.

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Speaker 3: He married his wife Joanne in nineteen eighty five, and

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Speaker 3: may second. Two thousand and seven, Comcast customers in linn Croft,

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's a classic Wild Cherry's five. Nobody thought

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Speaker 2: it has Wild Cherry's four. If may you do anything

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Speaker 2: else with the story? They're like, what else is there

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Speaker 3: five twenty. But what was it interrupting, Elizabeth. It was

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Speaker 2: Wow, good one over Bowl.

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Speaker 3: That October, he pleaded guilty to two counts of computer tampering,

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Speaker 5: What I know?

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Speaker 2: What did they ever say? Why he did it?

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Speaker 3: Porn is pro porn.

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Speaker 2: It's like that.

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Speaker 3: I feel like he'd, like, you know, would be really

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Speaker 2: This Super Bowl, like, have we just put on some

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Speaker 2: bar core actions exactly?

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, let's take a break and we come back. I

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Speaker 3: got more for you, oh Zaren, Oh, yes, Elizabeth, hijacking

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Speaker 2: I wasn't watching Cherry Blasters for just want to let

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Speaker 3: Well, I got another one for you. It's more porn.

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Speaker 3: March sixteenth, twenty ten, the Time Warner cable transmissions of

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Speaker 2: That's like Raleigh Golden Yeah, the Devil's Triangle.

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Speaker 3: They got replaced by Playboy TV and that went on

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Speaker 3: Other Time Warner cable systems in the area outside of

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Speaker 3: always porn though. In nineteen ninety five, Columbia University's radio

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Speaker 3: Am flight one O three the locker Bobby, Yeah, they

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Speaker 2: Oh wow.

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Speaker 2: Definitely, See I knew I know this.

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Speaker 3: I did not know that five different television stations ones

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Speaker 2: It's well written.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like and like imagine if you're double oh

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Speaker 3: The CBS ABCPBS stations in Marquette, Michigan and Lacrosse, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: The astronomers got busted and they were charged with possession

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Speaker 2: Okay, to use your fame.

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Speaker 3: Let's stay over in the Soviet block. This sort of

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Speaker 3: hoax that the US had launched nukes. That was a

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00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 3: very common one. Sorry anyway, And like the hijacking there,

443
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 3: it wasn't just like one offs. There were frequent flyers,

444
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 3: like guys who were like they did it all the time,

445
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 3: and they had names like Cucumber, Radio Millimeter, Green Goat and.

446
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 2: Fortunes super early hackers.

447
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they'd take over the signal on radio relay

448
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 3: stations to either like override it or they'd slip in

449
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 3: during breaks in broadcasting. And they were referred to in

450
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 3: the state run press as quote radio hooligans broadcasting drivel, rudeness, vulgarity,

451
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 3: uncensored expressions, and trashy music.

452
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 2: Did they play like Chuck Berry?

453
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 3: Probably it's just like the worst two live crew tracks

454
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 3: the imagine. I'm going to guess that if they were,

455
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 3: if they were caught, it probably wasn't pretty. So while

456
00:24:54,880 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 3: radio hijacking may have been like noble anti totalitarian effort

457
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 3: in the Eastern Bloc, in the US, we just kept

458
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 3: it trashy. If they do buy trash. On Wednesday May seventeenth,

459
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 3: two thousand and six, the signal of Babylon New York

460
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 3: FM radio station WBAB was hijacked for ninety seconds. W

461
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 3: BABS hijackers overrode the programming to play the song N

462
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 3: word Hate in Me Yeah, by a sixties white supremacist

463
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 3: country singer called Johnny Rebel. Yeah.

464
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 2: The morning Who's your Grandfather? Turns out he's a sixties

465
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 2: white supremacist country singer.

466
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 3: I guess hit was nword hating me the morning drive

467
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 3: time host and that's with a hard R yeah. The

468
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 3: morning drive time host Roger Loose He said, quote, I've

469
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 3: never seen this in twenty two years on this radio station,

470
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 3: whatever that was. It was very racist. Thanks the story

471
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 3: that made it onto the front page of Newsday with

472
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 3: and the platters that matter. My readling on Newsday though

473
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 3: was Jacked FM. Oh yeah there was no porn guys.

474
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 6: Yeah.

475
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 3: The station manager had only been there a week and

476
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 3: that really bummed him out, Like this is just and

477
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 3: it's a federal offense.

478
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 6: And all that.

479
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 3: The station was like, We're going to catch these purpse

480
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 3: no matter what we do. They offered ten grand in

481
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 3: a reward for information, you know, leading to the capture.

482
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 3: Management said quote, we condemned their actions and their harmful words.

483
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,239
Speaker 3: Are asking for a full investigation into this matter by

484
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 3: the FCC and are contacting local authorities to assist us

485
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 3: into finding out who did this.

486
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 2: The old station manager.

487
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 3: They never found out who did this. It's probably the

488
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 3: old station manager. We just cracked the case. Done.

489
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: You're well done. Thanks.

490
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 3: Another anonymous and offensive song hijacking occurred across the Pond

491
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 3: in the UK in twenty seventeen. In June of July

492
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 3: that year, Mansfield one oh three point two FM in Mansfield, Nottingham, Shure, England.

493
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 2: Always what I listened to and I'm as.

494
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 3: Hijacked eight different times in one month. Yes, so the

495
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 3: hijacker would like talk and scream and then play one

496
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 3: particular song called the Winkers song by British comedian iv

497
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 3: Or BigGAN.

498
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

499
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 3: Can I read you some of the lyrics?

500
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 2: Oh please?

501
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 3: My mother said that I never should play with the naughty,

502
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 3: rude girls in the wood. They're giggling talk I could

503
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 3: never understand. And that's why I fell in love with

504
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 3: my right hand. And that's why I'm a wanker. I'm

505
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 3: a wanker and it does me good?

506
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 5: Like it?

507
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 3: Bloodywell? Should it goes on?

508
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 2: And you know, when I was in high school, I

509
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 2: was on a rugby team. It was not related to

510
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 2: the high school, but it's a club team, right, And

511
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: our team name was the Davis Wankers, and we had

512
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 2: shirts that would say we either beat you on the

513
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: field or we will beat you off. Saron, I'm telling

514
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: you so, I think the British.

515
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 3: No adults step in and say inappropriate.

516
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: It was a British sport. We were just trying to

517
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: be in the sport of rugby. We didn't know, you know,

518
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 2: we're taking cues from this fellow.

519
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, basically. So the UK's Communication regulator said it was

520
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,719
Speaker 3: taking the incident extremely serious.

521
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 2: I hope they were eight times.

522
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 3: Engineers at the station, they're like working furiously to trace

523
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 3: the signal, identified it alone hijacker. They needed to put

524
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 3: a stop to it. But the managing director of Mansfield

525
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: one oh three point two said, quote, there is absolutely

526
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 3: nothing we could do about it, and we're trying very

527
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 3: hard to do something about it. We're told by Offcom,

528
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 3: who are investigating the matter, that you only need and

529
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 3: this is the frightening thing, a small transmitter and if

530
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 3: you can get near where there is an outside broadcast

531
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 3: or a signal, and you can overpower that signal, you're

532
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 3: on the airwaves. Boom there found Yeah, they got away

533
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 3: with eight times. So staying in England, we get to

534
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 3: a good one, a bigin so good. Southern Television covered

535
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 3: parts of southern England.

536
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: Right the southern too, Yeah, of course, and it had.

537
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 3: Broadcast transmitters in Dover, Bluebell Hill and Hannington of course.

538
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 3: And it was the official license holder for ITV. I

539
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 3: that Yeah, so you know that station, zaren close your oye.

540
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 3: I want you to picture it. It's Saturday November twenty sixth,

541
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy seven. You are a lighting technician for Southern Television.

542
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 3: Your name is Nigel. You wear turtlenecks every day and loafers,

543
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 3: and you eat a sleeve of digestive biscuits every day.

544
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 3: It's five PM and the brief top of the news

545
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 3: read is starting beamed in from London. You're sitting off

546
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 3: to the side of the studio reading a magazine and

547
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 3: half watching the feet of the broadcast on a small

548
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 3: TV monitor. As soon as the news is over, Looney

549
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 3: Tunes starts, and then you'll pay attention. You love Looney Tunes,

550
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: huge tweedy fan. The ITV newscaster Andrew Gardner in Tones.

551
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 3: The Rhodesian nationalist leader, Bishop Abel Masuriwa has accepted mister

552
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 3: Smith's offered to negotiate an internal settlement based on one man,

553
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 3: one vote, but he says there are conditions. These include

554
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 3: stopping the executions of all captured prisoners of war. The

555
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 3: feed crackles away. Suddenly a voice takes over the feed,

556
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 3: booming through the speakers in the studio.

557
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 5: Before coming frost. You you have seen in semi scs.

558
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 5: You must be a protest and sisters.

559
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 3: You drop your magazine and head over to the control booth.

560
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 3: Are there aliens communicating with us? Engineers frantically work the

561
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 3: control table for five and a half minutes, the voice

562
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 3: booms on. You scream and run outside, searching the skies

563
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 3: for UFOs. One of the engineers comes out to get you.

564
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 3: She tells you that there are no alien involved. The

565
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 3: station feed has just been hijacked. They may have to

566
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 3: cut to studio content, so they need you back inside.

567
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 3: You head to your work area, and while the chaos

568
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 3: and the control booth continues, you see that the monitor

569
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 3: is showing Looney Tunes, just as expected, So you know

570
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 3: as it said, this is the voice of Vrillain, the

571
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 3: representative of the Ashtar Galactic Command, speaking to you. For

572
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 3: many years you have seen us as lights in the skies.

573
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 3: We speak to you now in peace and wisdom, as

574
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 3: we've done to your brothers and sisters all over this

575
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 3: your planet Earth. It's kind of hard to listen to anyway.

576
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: So what is Ashtar Galactic Command? It kind of starts

577
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 3: off with George Van Tassel, an American ufologist. He lived

578
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,239
Speaker 3: out in the Mojave Desert. As you do a lot

579
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 3: of them do oh totally. So one day he met

580
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 3: Frank Kritzer, a weirdo who said he worked in a

581
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 3: mine somewhere near Giant Rock, which is a seven story

582
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 3: boulder near Landers, California, in the Mojave Desert.

583
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: I take your word.

584
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 3: This is in the nineteen thirties, and so Kritzer he

585
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 3: was under suspicion of being a German spy ah and

586
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 3: he took his own life with a dynamite explosion during

587
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 3: a police siege at the rock in nineteen forty two.

588
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: Little guilty, a little bit, so.

589
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 3: Tassel. He eventually moved away from the desert. He became

590
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 3: an aircraft mechanic and a flight inspector, and between nineteen

591
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 3: thirty and nineteen forty seven he worked for Douglas Aircraft, Hughes, Lockheed. Yeah.

592
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 3: Nineteen forty seven he moved back to the desert with

593
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 3: his family. And at first he and his family moved

594
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 3: into the rooms that Frank Kritzer had like dug out

595
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 3: under Giant Rock. They lived like mole people's errands.

596
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 5: Wow.

597
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 3: Then Van Tassel eventually built a house, a cafe, a

598
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 3: gas station, a store, an airstrip and a guest ranch.

599
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 3: Right next to the Rock. In nineteen fifty three, he

600
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 3: started hosting group meditation in a room underneath Giant Rock

601
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 3: and meditation. According to Van Tasse, around that same time,

602
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 3: an alien that arrived in the s ship from the

603
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 3: planet Venus woke him up one night. Oh of course, yeah,

604
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 3: there you go, the alien Ashtar.

605
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 2: He's like, can I get in on the meditation?

606
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 3: Yeah? He's like, well no, He's like, please, sir, come

607
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 3: with me, come aboard my UFO. Oh and he so.

608
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 3: And it was there that Ashtar, both verbally and telepathically,

609
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: gave him a technique for rejuvenating the human body.

610
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 2: You know as handy, always getting run down.

611
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 3: So nineteen fifty four Van Tassel and the others they

612
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 3: start building what they call the Integraton yea and perform

613
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: said rejuvenation.

614
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: Some numbers though, the Integraton five thousand, Yeah, exactly.

615
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 6: So.

616
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 3: According to Van Tassel, the Integraton was to be a

617
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 3: structure for scientific research into time, anti gravity, and extending

618
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 3: human life.

619
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: Some of my favorite interests.

620
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 3: It's all of your favorite interests. Van Tassel said that

621
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 3: by accessing the universal mind, he could receive messages not

622
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 3: just from Ashtar, his UFO buddy. Oh nice, but from

623
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: humans who died like Nikola Tesla. Oh so it's like

624
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 3: a any Yeah, and Tesla gave Van Tassel instructions to

625
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 3: build the integraton.

626
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: Oh hats handy. He's good with stuff.

627
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 3: He builds really good as stuff. So the Integraton was

628
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 3: a domed wood structure with a rotating metal thing on

629
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 3: the outside. He loves rotating things and metal and wood

630
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 3: and domes. This this thing was called an electrostatic diyrod,

631
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 3: the rotating metal thing. But go on, well, Van Tassel

632
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 3: said that it was made of non ferromagnetic materials would concrete, glass, fiberglass,

633
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 3: no metal, screws or nails. The project was the focus

634
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 3: of the quote Ministry of Universal Wisdom.

635
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: Ah, they're back at it. Yeah.

636
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 3: It was an organization that like investigated and encouraged the

637
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 3: heely arts, but they were mainly concerned with gathering information

638
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 3: about UFO sightings.

639
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 2: They wanted to talk to aliens.

640
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the Ministry of Universal Wisdom. They taught that

641
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 3: all humans have the power to tap into the universal

642
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: mind of God, of course, which llitates evolutionary progress such

643
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 3: as that exemplified by Jesus and Ashtar, and.

644
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: Apparently the universe loves committees groups exactly. It wants them

645
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: to be some kind of Robert rules of order exactly.

646
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 3: Let's take a break, Let's use our universal nights to

647
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 3: think about this, and when we come back, we're going

648
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 3: to find out more about Ashtar and the Southern Television

649
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 3: incident and.

650
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: Hopefully the Commission on Universal Justice.

651
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 3: So Southern Television, they're running an ITV news broadcast that

652
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 3: was interrupted by Villainy, representative of the Ashtar Galactic Command.

653
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: One of my favorite galactic commands.

654
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: Dude spoke for like five minutes. I'm not going to

655
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 3: read you the whole script, but here are some highlights.

656
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 3: We come to warn you of the destiny of your

657
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 3: race and your world, so that you may communicate to

658
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 3: your fellow beings the course you must take to avoid

659
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: the disaster which threatens your world and the beings on

660
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 3: our worlds around you. All your weapons of evil must

661
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 3: be removed. That's another good talking point.

662
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 2: Are your weapons? Are your base belonged to us?

663
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 3: Correct? Be aware that also that there are many false

664
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 3: prophets and guides at present operating in your world. Okay,

665
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 3: duly noted, you must learn to be sensitive to the

666
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 3: voice within that can tell you what is truth and

667
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 3: what is confusion, chaos and untruth. This is all just

668
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 3: good advice. We of the Ashtar Galactic Command thank you

669
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 3: for your attention. We are now leaving the planes of

670
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 3: your existence. May you be blessed by the supreme love

671
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 3: and the truth of the cosmos.

672
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 2: Nice.

673
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, very gentle. Now here's the thing though,

674
00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 3: researcher Marissa Discover of all Things Weird and Amazing on

675
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 3: to website Ashtar Command Crew dot net.

676
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 2: I can join the crew.

677
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 3: You know, if the u R l ends in dot net,

678
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 3: it's going to be good. Oh yeah, yeah uh. And

679
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 3: it's a straight up loone even over there, hold the

680
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 3: tweety uh. They they're all about like eclipse fears and

681
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 3: anti vax talk, murmurs of dark caballs yes, and get

682
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 3: encouragement to buy gold. Of course, it's like a theories, yeah,

683
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 3: chakra clearing with crystalline consciousness. There's a lot of talk

684
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 3: about crystalline beings upon the Earth. Four D and five

685
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 3: D ascension plans.

686
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,760
Speaker 2: What you got the five plans?

687
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 3: They got the plans. You cannot stream three daughters, So

688
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 3: they're keeping the dream alive, but not really, because I

689
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 3: don't think that's what Van Tassel or the broadcast hijackers

690
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 3: had in mind.

691
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 2: I'm not thinking.

692
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 3: So back to the hijack, So you know, it takes

693
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 3: it over. Imagine you're just a person watching the news,

694
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 3: waiting for the Looney Tunes to come on.

695
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's three in the afternoon.

696
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 3: If you get this, it's five and you get this

697
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 3: five minute dialogue from aliens. And again there are some

698
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 3: among us who are maybe a little more gullible, naive

699
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: or like, you know, like I'm looking at myself, I'm

700
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 3: holding a mirror, whould think, oh my god, the time

701
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 3: has come.

702
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 2: Right there running through my windows like war the worlds. Yeah,

703
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: it depends on how convincing, but I could be convinced.

704
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 2: I'm sure eventually.

705
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 3: According to A twenty well, the thing is is that

706
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 3: like it didn't break completely into the broadcast, that you

707
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 3: could kind of see some of the Looney Tunes behind it,

708
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 3: and like hear.

709
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 2: The talk coming through interrupting, and then you know, you.

710
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 3: Didn't have like the internet so you could go and

711
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 3: check and see what's going on. You'd have to call

712
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 3: people and be like, are you watching this.

713
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: Is this happening on your TV? Or do I need

714
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: to adjust my mess.

715
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 3: And you think, like, if it's just a small rural area,

716
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 3: they're not gonna like, you're not going to know someone

717
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 3: in London to call and ask. You're just gonna call

718
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 3: your neighbor and they're like, oh snap, I looked at

719
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 3: it too. You know they're all going to get us.

720
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 3: So back to the hijack.

721
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 2: Why a mean Nigel.

722
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 3: According to a twenty thirteen piece in Colonel magazine, like

723
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 3: like popcorn, not Colonel. None of the evening staff at

724
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 3: Southern Television were aware of the intrusion to their signal.

725
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 3: International Broadcasting Authority engineers in Croydon, Surrey did not hear

726
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 3: the rogue signal, nor was it detected at the main

727
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 3: transmitter site in Southampton, so just came in blindly silently. However,

728
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 3: immediately after the broadcast, panicky viewers flooded police telephones with calls,

729
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 3: and police said they had to send a patrol to

730
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 3: one elderly woman's home to calm her. They weren't menacing

731
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 3: and the thing, the thing is just like be good

732
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 3: to each other and we love you and we'll be back.

733
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 3: Oh my God, yeah, she's just like having like a

734
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 3: hyperventilating The police said, quote, all we could do was

735
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 3: reassure them it was a hoax, but like the calls

736
00:39:54,560 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: just kept coming in. Interesting Southern Broadcast apparently had to

737
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 3: broadcast reassuring messages to calm worried viewers. Engineers figured the

738
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 3: interruption must have originated at the very rural Hannington transmitter,

739
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: the Hannington One. Local police went to the Hannington transmitter,

740
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 3: but like you know, no one was there and there

741
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 3: was no equipment left behind. So some experts thought that

742
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 3: in order to do this at the time, you'd have

743
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 3: needed like really big heavy equipment, huge batteries to power this.

744
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 3: So the lack of all things, yeah, the lack of

745
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 3: appointed some to think that like maybe this was from

746
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 3: beyond and.

747
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: Must be from beyond.

748
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 3: The interruption made local and national news and it was

749
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 3: picked up by UPI, so it made over to US papers.

750
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 3: After the incident, Britain's Independent Broadcast Authority they launched an investigation. Quote,

751
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 3: the police, the Post Office, the Dependent Broadcast Authority and

752
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 3: even the Home Office were involved. So that's like you know, everybody.

753
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 3: They figured that even though the police didn't find anything

754
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 3: there it probably happened at the Hannington transmitter, and so

755
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 3: four days later, November thirtieth, nineteen seventy seven, it was

756
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 3: reported that the engineers had figured out how it happened,

757
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 3: but a spokesman told the press quote, we'd have a

758
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 3: fair idea of how it happened, but obviously we're not

759
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 3: going to release details for this might inspire another hoax.

760
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 3: But we're taking steps to ensure it will not happen

761
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 3: again and viewers are not frightened.

762
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,959
Speaker 2: Very important. We don't want the trauma. See I'm learning.

763
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 3: So they later said, quote, a hoaxer jammed our transmitter

764
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: in the wilds of North Hampshire by taking another transmitter

765
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 3: very close.

766
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 2: To it, and so I love that that it's just

767
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 2: physical proximity and you can then just basically get the

768
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: antenna walk for you and you just go off.

769
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. So they figured that, like the people who

770
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 3: did it, had to have a good amount of technical

771
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 3: knowledge in order to pull this off, more than my

772
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 3: So a spokesman for Southern Television said, quote, we can't

773
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 3: imagine how it was done, but it appears someone must

774
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 3: have managed to transmit a signal over ours. The equipment

775
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 3: used would need to be fairly sophisticated and expensive. So

776
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 3: that's when they start thinking like, this has to be

777
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 3: like someone in the industry to have this equipment, or

778
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: the military. So they said that if they were caught,

779
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 3: they were going to be fined two hundred pounds that's

780
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 3: like three hundred and sixty dollars at the time under

781
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 3: the Wireless Act. A lot of people figured it was

782
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 3: a student prank and that maybe they used a car

783
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 3: battery for power, or maybe it was a yeah. But

784
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 3: then people were saying this not enough. They figured wasn't

785
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 3: a disgruntled engineer Colonel mag later explained how they thought

786
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 3: the interruption hit What about.

787
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 2: A generator truck? Military has those?

788
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 3: Yeah? True? This is how the colonel came up with

789
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 3: the idea quote. The local television transmitter is the likely

790
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 3: source of the rogue transmission. Unusually for a transmitter serving

791
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 3: such a large area, the Hannington transmitter merely received and

792
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 3: rebroadcasted a signal sent from Rowbridge on the Isle of Wight.

793
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 3: With the sound being transmitted as an FM broadcast, it

794
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 3: was easy to take over the transmission. All they needed

795
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 3: to do was drive up the transmitter at Hannington and

796
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 3: broadcast on the same FM frequency as the transmission from

797
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 3: the Isle of Wight. The Hannington television transmitter sits in

798
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 3: the English countryside. Whoever took over the signal would have

799
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 3: had to travel along the small roads leading to the

800
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 3: hillside transmitter.

801
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 6: Yeah.

802
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 3: So even though you know, authorities said that it had

803
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 3: been hacked, the there's all these conspiracy theories around it,

804
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 3: and mainly centering around that, Yes, it really were. It

805
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 3: was extraterrestrials see Ashtar Command Crew, dot Net hot Rod crew. Yeah.

806
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 3: So the government they made it clear that they weren't

807
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 3: planning on pressing charges and no one ever publicly confessed

808
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: to the hack. However, in late twenty twenty two, a

809
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 3: limited run podcast called The Interruption came out the intent

810
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 3: of investigating the case. The host spent most of twenty

811
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 3: twenty two trying to get to the bottom of it. Eventually,

812
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 3: he heard about a radio pirate who called himself Roger Tate,

813
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 3: who had a regular show on London's pirate radio Invicta.

814
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 3: Roger Tate's real name was Bob Timalski and he was

815
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 3: a big part of London's pirate radio scene in the seventies.

816
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 3: Robert or Bob had in fact built in Victa's transmitter

817
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 3: which enabled quote ordinary radios to pick up the station,

818
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 3: and so he has this giant transmitter. His studio is

819
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 3: in his own home. He was later known as the

820
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 3: Gadget Guru or Inspector Gadget, reviewing tech gadgets for a

821
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 3: lot of different websites. He died in two thousand and one,

822
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 3: but according to his friends, he loved sci fi and

823
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 3: he loved pranks. And so the podcast talked to a

824
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 3: friend of Bob's, a guy named Laurie Hallett, who had

825
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 3: known Bob in his early pirate radio days, and doctor

826
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 3: Hallett now works as a senior lecturer in radio at

827
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 3: the University of Bedfordshire. So he spent He also spent

828
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: eight years at Offcom, the UK's communication regulating agency, and

829
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 3: that's where he quote developed and implemented policies around community

830
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 3: radio and digital audio broadcasting. So basically, his buddy policed

831
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 3: pirate radio. So the Buddy told the Interruption podcast that

832
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 3: Bob never actually confessed that he'd done the prank, but

833
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 3: that one time he just played the audio tape of it,

834
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 3: and then after what was supposed to be the very

835
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 3: last episode of the Interruption, the host gets contacted by

836
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 3: a man named Adam, who's another radio pirate, and he

837
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 3: said he'd also been a friend of Bob's and that

838
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 3: Bob had in fact confessed that he'd done the hijack.

839
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 3: Ah yeah, and he said he did it because quote,

840
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 3: you can yeah, you can do it. No ulterior motive.

841
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 3: According to Adam, Bob didn't believe in the alien message,

842
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 3: but he wanted it to sound plausible and kind of funny,

843
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 3: so he spent time crafting the message and the sound

844
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 3: that went with it. Adam said that Bob likely did

845
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 3: have cohorts in the prank, but no one has admitted

846
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 3: to it. And then Adam also said Bob never confessed

847
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 3: because his career had grown after his pirate radio days.

848
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 3: Didn't want to put it into jeopardy, So, Zarin.

849
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: That's not quite a deathbed confession.

850
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 3: No, not at all. What's your ridiculous takeaway?

851
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 2: Oh man, I didn't think there's gonna be much more

852
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 2: after like the Max Headroom.

853
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 3: But I mean that was spicy, It was super spicy.

854
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, goodness. But I really like Bob at the end.

855
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 2: He was my favorite.

856
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 3: Bob's good I love I love that. Like we have

857
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 3: a little coda on that Onebeth.

858
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 2: What's your ridiculous takeaway one? See, I'm not going to

859
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: ask anymore. Don't do it, keep acting like that.

860
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 3: But you know what I do need. I don't need

861
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 3: a ridiculous takeaway. I need to talk back.

862
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to take all the airwaves with this one.

863
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: Oh God, super.

864
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 3: I want.

865
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 6: Hey guys, my name's Eric from ten See. I really

866
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 6: appreciate your podcast. I think it's a load of fun.

867
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 6: I was listening to the Diploma Mills podcast and when

868
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 6: you told Zaren to picture this and started your description,

869
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 6: I knew exactly who you were talking about and thought,

870
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 6: holy crap, they're talking about Jim and Tammy Faye Baker.

871
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 6: My mom was knowed by those losers, and I hope

872
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 6: she's learned your lesson.

873
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: But we'll see.

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Speaker 6: Anyway, keep up the good work and I'll keep on enjoying.

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Speaker 3: Oh I love it.

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Speaker 2: It was poor moms, terrible people, but a great fashion

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Speaker 2: eicon Elizabeth Tammy Faye Baker. I mean, come on, I

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Speaker 2: guess jre just still talking about her.

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Speaker 3: Well that's it for today. You can find us online

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Speaker 3: at Ridiculous Crime dot com. We're also at Ridiculous Crime

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Speaker 3: on Twitter, Instagram, truth Social, Email us at ridiculous Crime

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Speaker 3: at gmail dot com, leave a talkback on the iHeart

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Speaker 3: app reach out. Ulus Crime is hosted by Elizabeth Dutton

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Speaker 3: and Zarren Burnett, produced and edited by Radiant being of

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Speaker 3: Aquarian Light Dave Cousten. Research is by Ashtar's talent agent

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Speaker 3: Marissa Brown and UFO mechanic Andrea song Sharpen Tear. The

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Speaker 3: theme song is by Morning Drivetime shock jocks Thomas Lee

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Speaker 3: and Travis Dutton. Post wardrobe is provided by Botany five Hundred.

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Speaker 3: Executive producers are Ben Solidarity now Bowlin and Noel Solidarity,

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