Speaker 1: No initiating rich on Tech. What's going on? Rich Demiro here?
Speaker 2: Rich on Tech coming to you from the CS convention
Speaker 2: show floor. This is the podcast where we talk about
Speaker 2: the tech stuff I think you should know about and
Speaker 2: we answer your tech questions.
Speaker 1: Producer Megan is with me.
Speaker 3: Hello.
Speaker 1: We let me just paint the scene for you. Right now.
Speaker 2: We are in the back of a minivan, a Chrysler
Speaker 2: pacifica totally souped up like this is the best minivan
Speaker 2: I've ever been in, literally on the CES show floor
Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas, Nevada, United States, Earth Eric Galaxy one.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm just bringing it out in case you listen in
Speaker 2: different worlds, you know, But I'm telling you CES twenty
Speaker 2: twenty here in Las Vegas is quite the show. We
Speaker 2: have been here since Sunday CS. Let me just let
Speaker 2: me just explain what CS is all about. If you
Speaker 2: have never been, Uh, it is the wildest ride you
Speaker 2: can imagine for technology because what they do is they
Speaker 2: just have literally one hundred and seventy thousand people from
Speaker 2: around the world, plus companies from around the world that
Speaker 2: all come here to kind of show off the latest
Speaker 2: and greatest. And when I say, a lot of people,
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff. Megan, this is your.
Speaker 3: Second time, Yeah, my second time.
Speaker 1: How does it differ from your first time?
Speaker 3: I think the.
Speaker 4: First time, I had just started this job, but it
Speaker 4: was just like a complete like a shock, like to
Speaker 4: the system.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But we also went to see US Asia this year,
Speaker 4: and I remember in see us Asia, I felt like
Speaker 4: like I kind of understood how to walk around the
Speaker 4: floor and like I had a better understanding. And this time,
Speaker 4: I think it's just like every time you start to
Speaker 4: get it right right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like when I first went to CS, it'd be
Speaker 2: like Vegas. Oh my gosh, party, party, party, work, work, work,
Speaker 2: no sleep, no sleep.
Speaker 1: And I realized by the end of the time, I'm
Speaker 1: just kidding.
Speaker 2: You're no, you're for someone your age. You're very You're
Speaker 2: you've been very tame. Believe me, because ten years ago
Speaker 2: at CS for me way wild. I mean it was
Speaker 2: just insane. I mean I remember going out like nine
Speaker 2: o'clock at night to parties and just you know, getting
Speaker 2: up at two am for my stuff on KTLA. And
Speaker 2: I don't really do that anymore because I probably can't.
Speaker 2: I can't do you know, yeah, my body can't do that.
Speaker 1: Anymore.
Speaker 3: I'm a grandma, so I can't even do that.
Speaker 1: Megan producer, Grandma Meghan.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So we saw so many things this week. I saw
Speaker 2: so many things. My camera roll is just overflowed with stuff.
Speaker 2: I saw everything from the latest automated cars. I took
Speaker 2: us a drive and a self driving car from Qualcom.
Speaker 2: We saw so many robots, We saw little gadgets, we
Speaker 2: saw big gadgets.
Speaker 1: I saw adult gadgets.
Speaker 2: That was the first year that they had this at
Speaker 2: the show floor, and that was very interesting because it's
Speaker 2: all just kind of mixed in to the stuff here.
Speaker 1: What else I mean.
Speaker 2: I just walked around this morning for about three hours
Speaker 2: over at what's called this This is like another convention center.
Speaker 2: It's CS is so big that it can't fit under
Speaker 2: one roof and it takes over the entire town. And
Speaker 2: I walked over there and they had an entire area
Speaker 2: of like all the international companies and all these little
Speaker 2: tiny startups from France and Taiwan.
Speaker 1: And I got ramen out of a ramen vending machine,
Speaker 1: which was so amazing.
Speaker 2: And here's what I will tell you, and I probably
Speaker 2: talk about this on this podcast a lot, but I
Speaker 2: love being media at events like this, and the reason
Speaker 2: why I love being media at events like this and
Speaker 2: someone's opening the door to our minivan here, yeah, is
Speaker 2: that they they love to take care of you. And
Speaker 2: I walked right up to the vending machine. I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, they're not really doing samples. I'm like, would
Speaker 2: you mind making a sample? And sure, they made me
Speaker 2: hot ramen in forty five seconds, which, by the way,
Speaker 2: I wolfed down.
Speaker 1: It was so delicious.
Speaker 2: So I went up to this coke vending machine where
Speaker 2: they have this new thing called Coke Energy, and I'm like, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, mind if I get a you know, this
Speaker 2: huge line, and then you know, if you go up
Speaker 2: to a booth, they're always maybe locked the door. Actually,
Speaker 2: you go up to a booth and you know they
Speaker 2: want to accommodate you.
Speaker 1: Immediately give you a demo and.
Speaker 2: They roll out the red carpet for you because they
Speaker 2: know that you can amplify the message of what they're
Speaker 2: trying to show. And I love my favorite thing about
Speaker 2: cs just finding little, cool, awesome things. And so I'm
Speaker 2: going to go through a whole bunch of gadgets that
Speaker 2: I saw, you know, and look, if you want me
Speaker 2: to talk about what you know Samsung did or what
Speaker 2: Sony did. You're probably not going to hear too much
Speaker 2: about that at this podcast because I more want to
Speaker 2: find the little things. You're gonna of course hear those
Speaker 2: in the headlines. But I found a lot of little
Speaker 2: things I thought were really cool. And yeah, I'll have
Speaker 2: some big companies as well, but I think the number
Speaker 2: one thing, I'll just start with the pizza robot, because
Speaker 2: this has gone viral on my Twitter.
Speaker 1: Yah, and this was actually Megan's find.
Speaker 2: But we went to this company called Picnic and they
Speaker 2: make a robot that makes pizzas really fast, and it
Speaker 2: got a lot of play on Twitter because one of
Speaker 2: the presidential candidates retweeted my tweet about it, and when
Speaker 2: that happened, people it just went crazy.
Speaker 3: It exploded.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so this little.
Speaker 2: Robot was really tough to get because it's making pizzas
Speaker 2: for the people at the convention center. And everyone was
Speaker 2: debating on Twitter, like I said, it had AI and
Speaker 2: people are like, oh, there's no AI. That's just an
Speaker 2: assembly robot. It's just a basic automation robot. But that's
Speaker 2: not true. What we showed was it making pizza. But
Speaker 2: what it can do is. It can make tacos, it
Speaker 2: can assemble salads, It can assemble anything that has ingredients
Speaker 2: and some sort of whatever you put them on a
Speaker 2: bun or sandwich, tacos, subway. Imagine a subway sandwich artist
Speaker 2: being displaced by this machine. And then people get on
Speaker 2: me because they say, Rich, are you trying to take
Speaker 2: away everyone's jobs. I'm not creating robot, I'm not promoting it.
Speaker 2: This is my job to cover this. Would you rather
Speaker 2: not know that this is coming down the line? If
Speaker 2: there was an automated check producer, would you rather be
Speaker 2: blindsided by the fact that I'm, like, Megan, I'm replacing
Speaker 2: you with a robot.
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, I mean, like I compared it to you know,
Speaker 4: manufacturing cars, you know, back fifty years ago or whenever
Speaker 4: they switched from humans to robots, Like of course people
Speaker 4: were upset, and now it's just the way it is.
Speaker 4: And cars are made by robots. Food, I mean, made
Speaker 4: by robots sounds kind of crazy, but at the same time,
Speaker 4: it's like it's safer, it's not you know, there's a
Speaker 4: lot of good to it as.
Speaker 2: Well, and there's also like, i mean, it's little things
Speaker 2: like if you're running a business. And let's say that
Speaker 2: you have humans doing this. Out of every five pizzas
Speaker 2: or I don't know what the number is, the human
Speaker 2: probably makes a mistake that's big enough to ruin that pizza.
Speaker 1: Or when they put.
Speaker 2: The cheese on, they're putting on ten percent more than
Speaker 2: they should, or they're putting on olives and five olives
Speaker 2: every hour fall off.
Speaker 1: Onto the floor. Yeah, well, the robot.
Speaker 2: And this is where these business minds come in. They say, look,
Speaker 2: we're going to cut costs by ten percent and boom,
Speaker 2: Now you've just increased productivity. Now I get it, that
Speaker 2: person that was previously making that pizza is now displaced,
Speaker 2: but there are people that need to program these devices,
Speaker 2: and the people that were making the pizzas are now
Speaker 2: in a different position at that workplace. And yes, sometimes maybe,
Speaker 2: if you want to look at it, maybe it's a
Speaker 2: zero you know, I don't think it's a zero sum game.
Speaker 2: I think that there's always something else happening somewhere else where.
Speaker 1: People always find a way.
Speaker 2: And look, if humans are going to put humans out
Speaker 2: of business when it comes to jobs, we're all going
Speaker 2: to have to figure that out. And with some of
Speaker 2: these things, they just it just happens at the ground
Speaker 2: up and we just have to all deal with it.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 2: Check out the pizza robot video and oh sorry, wrong one.
Speaker 2: There we go, and we're still going to do some
Speaker 2: of your questions as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So actually this is a follow up email from this
Speaker 4: guy named Alan. He had emailed you about when you
Speaker 4: were on Leo's show and you mentioned the ESM called
Speaker 4: aaro Loow. Well he went on.
Speaker 3: To actually try it, so he said that it look
Speaker 3: it's too good to be true. And then basically you had.
Speaker 4: Told him that you were going to try it, and
Speaker 4: then he said he was going to try it, and
Speaker 4: then the update is it looks as if it works
Speaker 4: very well. I tried out the five dollars one gigabyte
Speaker 4: seven days and later have got gone up to the
Speaker 4: twenty eight dollars ten gigabytes thirty days and it works
Speaker 4: very nicely.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: So what is this eSIM called Arrolow?
Speaker 1: I don't okay, so air a l o aer arrol Errolow.
Speaker 1: And so I saw this website.
Speaker 2: It was a brand new website and eSIMs, if you're
Speaker 2: not familiar with the concept, A lot of the new smartphones,
Speaker 2: especially the iPhones, and some of the other devices out there,
Speaker 2: like the Pixel.
Speaker 1: They have what's called.
Speaker 2: An eSIM, which means have you ever seen that little
Speaker 2: card that's inside your phone, the simcard. Well, now they're
Speaker 2: doing away with that, and that little number on that
Speaker 2: card is actually built into your phone sort of, and
Speaker 2: so you can have what's a virtual SIM card, so
Speaker 2: you could activate your phone on Verizon without popping a
Speaker 2: SIM card in because Verizon just says, hey, give us
Speaker 2: those numbers on your phone and we'll just connect it
Speaker 2: all and make it work, which makes things really convenient.
Speaker 2: Now for international travel, it gets really interesting because what
Speaker 2: this Aerolo site does is lets you buy an eSIM
Speaker 2: before you even leave the country, and they have him
Speaker 2: available for all these different countries, over one hundred countries.
Speaker 2: You go online and let's say I'm going to France
Speaker 2: and I can buy seven days of data one gig
Speaker 2: for three bucks, or I can buy thirty days five
Speaker 2: gigs of data for nine dollars, and I can have
Speaker 2: this activated on my phone before I even leave. And
Speaker 2: so what was his name again, Alan? Alan called me
Speaker 2: on the Leo Show. I told him about this, he said,
Speaker 2: and then he emailed me. He said, Rich that's too
Speaker 2: good to be true. That doesn't work, there's no way.
Speaker 2: And I said, well, you try it and I'll try
Speaker 2: it and we'll see because we're both discovering this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and sure enough he emailed me back and he said
Speaker 2: it works great, and so I will be using this
Speaker 2: on my next international trip. Yeah, it's just a nice
Speaker 2: thing to know about ai rlo dot com. I was
Speaker 2: wondering about China because that's actually the second country and
Speaker 2: it does have China com prepaid five days five gigs
Speaker 2: of data. Thirty days is sixteen bucks. Now I burned
Speaker 2: through five gigs of data in maybe five minutes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: probably a couple of days, so that you know, I'd
Speaker 2: probably need a couple of those. But if you look
Speaker 2: at what Verizon does and at and T, I usually
Speaker 2: recommend their travel pass or what they call passport that's
Speaker 2: using your normal number and it's ten dollars a day
Speaker 2: in the countries that you go to, and they only
Speaker 2: give you about a half a gig a day, but
Speaker 2: unlimited calling. So anyway, this is way better. So check
Speaker 2: it out Arlo dot com. If you're traveling on a
Speaker 2: trip internationally and you have a newer phone that will
Speaker 2: let you use an e sim and it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: All right, Let's talk about another product that we saw
Speaker 2: here at the show, The LG Veggie Fridge I call it,
Speaker 2: and this is LG Electronics.
Speaker 1: They it's specifically called a indoor gardening appliance.
Speaker 2: I think it's called the Vegetable Cultivator. But this was
Speaker 2: another one that kind of went viral.
Speaker 1: Because it just looks so cool.
Speaker 2: It's a column fridge that you install in your kitchen
Speaker 2: and it grows little, tiny leafy plants in the fridge.
Speaker 2: And yes, it's basil, it's tiny, you know, maybe bib
Speaker 2: lettuce or butter lettuce or whatever. But obviously your mind
Speaker 2: goes to what is the other leafy thing that people
Speaker 2: grow at home?
Speaker 3: Was kidding? Marijuana?
Speaker 2: You can't see so, and we're in California, where you know,
Speaker 2: depending on I mean, I think you have. I'm not
Speaker 2: an expert on this by anyway, but I'm pretty sure
Speaker 2: that like there's something where you can have like three
Speaker 2: little plants or something.
Speaker 1: Now I'm not an expert, so if.
Speaker 2: You can't do, not say that rich, But the reality is,
Speaker 2: I imagine that people would probably try this, and that's
Speaker 2: kind of why it went viral because because we said
Speaker 2: it was a refriger that lets you grow your own herbs,
Speaker 2: and I guess herb is probably.
Speaker 1: Slang for you know, marijuana. So no matter what, this
Speaker 1: fridge is pretty cool.
Speaker 2: There are some caveats to it, so it controls the air,
Speaker 2: the humidity or I should say the temperature, the humidity,
Speaker 2: and the water. And it's not just like you can
Speaker 2: plant anything in there, although I'm sure people will try,
Speaker 2: but it's much more high tech than that. They come
Speaker 2: in little pods that LG cells, and so I think
Speaker 2: you put these pods in there, Yeah, like a little
Speaker 2: seed pod. I doubt I doubt they're gonna have a
Speaker 2: weed pod anytime.
Speaker 3: Going to you never know, So that's really fun.
Speaker 1: But I just thought thought that was really cool.
Speaker 2: And again, you know something's really expensive when they can't
Speaker 2: tell you how much it costs. We did not get
Speaker 2: a price on the veggie fridge, but I imagine it's
Speaker 2: for rich people because it's one of those fridges that
Speaker 2: kind of looks like one of those what's that big brand,
Speaker 2: like the Viking or the you know the really.
Speaker 3: Nice I think.
Speaker 2: Viking, Yeah, like the really nice fridge sub zero, you
Speaker 2: know those kind of Really the fridge is that when
Speaker 2: your fridge blends in with your cabinets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you are rich.
Speaker 2: It's like it's well, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 2: it looks like it just your cabinet is the same
Speaker 2: exact facade as the fridge.
Speaker 3: It's literally literally customed.
Speaker 1: Yes, you're doing okay goals. Yeah, that's that's the LG
Speaker 1: Veggi fridge.
Speaker 2: But this does have a clear glass fridge in front
Speaker 2: or a glass window in front of it.
Speaker 1: All right, Megan, you're up.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: So this next question is from Maria. She's asking about
Speaker 4: sharing large videos on an Android. I was wondering if
Speaker 4: you could help me. My daughter's on a drill team.
Speaker 4: I take a lot of videos of her. And many
Speaker 4: of the moms have iPhones and can air drop videos
Speaker 4: to each other, but I have an Android. Do you
Speaker 4: have any tips on the best way to share large
Speaker 4: videos to other Android users and iPhone users also from
Speaker 4: an iPhone to an Android.
Speaker 1: Oh of course.
Speaker 2: Okay, So the main thing with uh this has been
Speaker 2: a problem because Android and if your iPhone to iPhone,
Speaker 2: it's all good. Yeah, because you have air drop, you
Speaker 2: have iCloud. People will send you an I Cloud link.
Speaker 1: It's all good.
Speaker 2: You can literally you have I Message, you can share
Speaker 2: a big video through message, whatever you want. It's iPhone
Speaker 2: to iPhone has never been a problem. It's just the
Speaker 2: simplest thing, which is why iPhone users are very hesitant
Speaker 2: when it comes to sharing with Android users because it
Speaker 2: never looks good the video. If you send it by text,
Speaker 2: it's gonna look like garbage. And you're like, well, how
Speaker 2: else would I send it? Like, I don't know how
Speaker 2: what do I do? And the Android people are like, well,
Speaker 2: can you use like Google Photos or face Facebook Messenger?
Speaker 2: And of course the iPhone person doesn't want to download
Speaker 2: anything new, and so it's this whole big thing. And
Speaker 2: I see this all the time with my family and friends.
Speaker 2: So here's what I'm recommend.
Speaker 1: Number one.
Speaker 2: I would say probably the easiest is Dropbox. So just
Speaker 2: get just get a Dropbox account, get a free one.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what the Dropbox gives you for free
Speaker 2: these days.
Speaker 1: It used to be like to like a gig or something.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how much it is.
Speaker 2: Dropbox they don't even I mean, it's like Dropbox business
Speaker 2: is like so they're not even targeting like regular people anymore.
Speaker 1: But it seems like you could probably get a dropbox.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm guessing you can get a personal d drop box
Speaker 2: at this point. Maybe you can't anyway, so dropbox will
Speaker 2: probably be the easiest. If you can still get a dropbox,
Speaker 2: Google Drive she mentioned that will work. The problem is
Speaker 2: it's really like people don't want to sit there and
Speaker 2: get a link and then download the video from the
Speaker 2: link because it's kind of a pain.
Speaker 3: Right, isn't that drop Box too?
Speaker 2: They're both, Yeah, it's just Dropbox a little bit easier
Speaker 2: because it's more like a you understand the concept.
Speaker 1: It's a folder that you drop something into.
Speaker 2: You go into that folder and you pull it out, right,
Speaker 2: so it's Google Drive. It gets a little crazier because
Speaker 2: you're like, what is this? Is this a drive? My
Speaker 2: soniim those are my first two choices. Then I would
Speaker 2: say Google Photos is really good.
Speaker 1: So if you have.
Speaker 2: Google Photos on your phone, which if you're Android you
Speaker 2: probably do, just click the little share and it says
Speaker 2: share link. You can just share a link and they'll
Speaker 2: be able to download that photo as well or that
Speaker 2: video file. You can do a shared album, which this
Speaker 2: was really cool. I went to a birthday party. I
Speaker 2: probably mentioned this on the podcast, but my friend she
Speaker 2: made a shared photo album of the birthday party and
Speaker 2: she sent the link to us, and literally I was
Speaker 2: able to drag and drop my pictures onto that album
Speaker 2: and everyone else of that link could see them.
Speaker 1: So that's really easy. Right.
Speaker 2: Then the other thing, and this is my new favorite,
Speaker 2: and you've been using this, Megan as well. Telegram is
Speaker 2: my new absolute favorite chat tool. And it's so great
Speaker 2: because it's kind of like I Message but on steroids,
Speaker 2: because it's got every feature imaginable, including you can share
Speaker 2: large files and you can even share large files with yourself.
Speaker 2: So if you send a video to yourself, you can
Speaker 2: download the app on your computer and then download that.
Speaker 2: They have a thing called saved Messages where you can
Speaker 2: basically just use unlimited cloud storage. So I check out Telegram,
Speaker 2: get all your friends on. It's actually pretty easy to
Speaker 2: get people to sign up. I got you to sign up.
Speaker 2: I got a bunch of my friends to sign up.
Speaker 2: I got my wife to sign up, and we're all
Speaker 2: kind of loving it.
Speaker 4: I like it, right, yeah, I mean it's pretty easy,
Speaker 4: and I do like that you can see when your
Speaker 4: message has been read, but I know on I Message,
Speaker 4: it's like a whole thing.
Speaker 3: Like oh yeah, like you have your read receipts on.
Speaker 4: But like it helps especially for work, yeah, to know
Speaker 4: like if I send a message, I know it's been
Speaker 4: read and like you don't have to respond, but I know, like, oh.
Speaker 2: He's sadly And that's that was actually one of the
Speaker 2: things with us with with I Message.
Speaker 1: Either you don't have a turn on or I don't.
Speaker 1: I forget, I don't even know.
Speaker 3: If I have read, receive, I have read receipts.
Speaker 1: Most people turn it off because they don't like that privacy.
Speaker 2: You know, they want their privacy. So that's the problem.
Speaker 2: But with Telegram, it's on. You see a little check mark, yeah,
Speaker 2: and it okay, so there's one check mark which means
Speaker 2: it's been delivered and I think too when it's been read.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then the other thing, I mean, there's so I
Speaker 2: don't want to go through all the features of telegram,
Speaker 2: but it's amazing.
Speaker 3: It's it's a lot like BBM.
Speaker 2: It's a lot like BBM. And the other thing is
Speaker 2: you can share. You can have it on multiple devices,
Speaker 2: so you don't you're not just limited to like iPhone Android.
Speaker 2: You can put on your desktop everywhere. Yeah, I have,
Speaker 2: I have it on everywhere. You can drag and drop things,
Speaker 2: you can what's the other things you can do that.
Speaker 2: You can find people by username, So mine is rich
Speaker 2: on Tech if you want to text me there now
Speaker 2: I just gave it out, so good luck with that.
Speaker 4: So does that mean you'll like lose like if you
Speaker 4: get a bunch of messages? Yeah, well you're like ktl
Speaker 4: like tech like message.
Speaker 1: Oh that's I think disappear.
Speaker 2: You can pin it to the top, so I have
Speaker 2: I have, like my wife pinned to the top, so
Speaker 2: I see her messages way at the top. I have
Speaker 2: our little KTLA tech pin to the top, so it's
Speaker 2: always right at the top.
Speaker 3: Good okay, So then you can get all your other and.
Speaker 1: Then the other.
Speaker 2: I've had a bunch of people text me through it
Speaker 2: from CS and it's fine. I mean, it's like it's
Speaker 2: very personal because it is like a text, but it's
Speaker 2: also I know it's they don't know my number, so
Speaker 2: it's fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But anyway, so those are the things I would
Speaker 1: recommend and check them out. All right.
Speaker 2: Another product I saw which I you know, I know,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of Arlow fans out there. Arlow is
Speaker 2: this wireless security camera company and people love them because
Speaker 2: the security cams are wireless, they last for anywhere between
Speaker 2: four and six months, and they're super easy to install
Speaker 2: because you just stick them up and you forget about them. Well,
Speaker 2: Arlow has now come out with a wireless floodlight cam,
Speaker 2: the r Low Plo Pro three Floodlight Camera, and this
Speaker 2: is uh it's a camera combined with an ultra bright
Speaker 2: floodlight and it's one hundred percent wire free. It it's
Speaker 2: super bright because they shine it in my eyes at
Speaker 2: the event, and it's great.
Speaker 1: You just put it up and now you.
Speaker 2: Have a flood light, which is good for security, and
Speaker 2: you also have a camera and you're also illuminated at night.
Speaker 1: So a lot of these floodcam are these.
Speaker 2: A lot of these cameras at night use IR which
Speaker 2: doesn't look very good, and it's been black and white.
Speaker 2: But this is full color even at night, which is
Speaker 2: really cool. So I don't know, it's it's kind of cool.
Speaker 2: I don't have the price on it, but I don't
Speaker 2: know if they told me the price on it, I
Speaker 2: can't remember. But anyway, I know there's a lot of
Speaker 2: rlow fans out there, and this will expand your reach.
Speaker 1: So awesome. Cool. It's getting hotter and hotter, right I know.
Speaker 3: I was like, the van must have gone off. We
Speaker 3: killed the battery.
Speaker 1: We killed the battery because the van is off and.
Speaker 3: We are sweating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, question producer.
Speaker 4: Mean this next question comes from Joe. I watch you
Speaker 4: on Fox eight News in Cleveland at twelve PM, and
Speaker 4: I enjoy your segment very much. I'm in the market
Speaker 4: for a smart watch with ECG capabilities. I have a
Speaker 4: a fib and I want to keep track of it.
Speaker 4: I understand that Apple is and the leader is the
Speaker 4: leader in this area. However, I'm not ready to give
Speaker 4: up my Android phone yet. Is there another brand out
Speaker 4: there for Android right now?
Speaker 2: Okay, we're recording this in January twenty twenty. If you
Speaker 2: talk to me in one year, it's gonna be a
Speaker 2: whole different story. There's probably gonna be fifteen of these
Speaker 2: things I could recommend right now. Apple Watch, EKG ECG
Speaker 2: whatever they call it is kind of like the gold standard.
Speaker 2: It's there right now. It monitors your heart. It monitors
Speaker 2: what's going on with your heart. You can take an
Speaker 2: ECG whenever you want. It'll tell you when your heart
Speaker 2: rate is elevated, when it's too low, when you fall.
Speaker 2: Apple Watch is and I've talked about this before. It's
Speaker 2: actually become more useful to me in various ways than
Speaker 2: the iPhone. The iPhone is still an amazing device, but
Speaker 2: like a lot of people now can't give up their
Speaker 2: iPhone because they have the Apple Watch and they fell
Speaker 2: in love with it. Yeah, and there's really no other
Speaker 2: wearable like that.
Speaker 1: Google bought Fitbit.
Speaker 2: You can be believe that they are going to add
Speaker 2: these features into the future fitbits for sure.
Speaker 1: They have to.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: The other one that will have it is the Galaxy
Speaker 2: Watch Active. I think it's called. But the Galaxy Watch
Speaker 2: they announced this last year at their event they said
Speaker 2: we're gonna we built in the tools to do an
Speaker 2: EKG on this watch, but they did not activate them.
Speaker 2: So that's what we're waiting for. And it's the.
Speaker 1: Galaxy Watch Active too, I guess it's called.
Speaker 2: And they we have an event with Samsung on February eleventh.
Speaker 1: I believe hopefully we'll get an update.
Speaker 2: Maybe they'll introduce this on stage and say, hey, it's active,
Speaker 2: but you're talking it's been a while. I mean I
Speaker 2: think it was like back in the summer that we
Speaker 2: had the event where they unveil this, and anyone who
Speaker 2: bought that that wanted that feature.
Speaker 1: Has been waiting now six months. It's too long.
Speaker 2: So that is the watch that I would recommend, and
Speaker 2: hopefully they will have that very soon. They need it,
Speaker 2: because I'm not like I used the EKG feature a lot.
Speaker 2: But if you, like you said, he has a fib
Speaker 2: he needs that and you know you want to be
Speaker 2: able to have that. All right, let's see and you
Speaker 2: can pick the next one. Which one do you want
Speaker 2: me to talk about. I'll give you some choices. You've
Speaker 2: got the fingerprint door opener, you've got the self driving car.
Speaker 1: You want to do the self driving car?
Speaker 2: Okay, So we both took a ride in the self
Speaker 2: driving car from Qualcomm, and Qualcomm does not make cars,
Speaker 2: but they make the technology that lets cars self drive,
Speaker 2: and kind of like Renouvo. Well, it sounds like Renovo
Speaker 2: is doing more of the car we're in, is the
Speaker 2: Renovo car. Sounds like they're doing more of the data
Speaker 2: that helps all this stuff along.
Speaker 4: True, and these are just companies, Honestly, I know nothing
Speaker 4: about well, neither.
Speaker 2: Did I until you know, until we'll call Calm. I
Speaker 2: knew about but Renovo I had not until we shot
Speaker 2: our podcast in here. But it's you know again, the
Speaker 2: data that these cars have is just crazy. And so
Speaker 2: the Qualcom we get in and we you know, we
Speaker 2: do these things blind. We like get in, We're like,
Speaker 2: we'd have no idea what this car sign a waiver
Speaker 2: and next thing you know, we're on the freeway at
Speaker 2: seventy miles an hour in a car that's driving itself.
Speaker 2: And what was was that the first time you were
Speaker 2: in a self driving car? Yeah, because it's been I've
Speaker 2: been in a couple oh like that. Yes, I've been
Speaker 2: on the freeway on a car. Yes, but this was
Speaker 2: the most autonomous car I've ever been in.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I felt like it reminded Well, first of all,
Speaker 4: I was like filming it, filming in the back, so
Speaker 4: I was looking through a screen filming it the entire time.
Speaker 3: But I kind of to like k not it too
Speaker 3: freaked out about it.
Speaker 4: I just told myself kind of like, oh, it's like
Speaker 4: a ride at Disneyland, like don't worry, and like it's
Speaker 4: really safe.
Speaker 3: But I was kind of freaked out.
Speaker 4: I was like after, I was like whoa, Like that
Speaker 4: car was actually going like seventy miles per hour on
Speaker 4: the freeway and you know, like, yeah, it was crazy
Speaker 4: and anything can happen.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 2: I mean the concern to me exactly is Okay, you've
Speaker 2: seen you've been in a car where someone jerks the
Speaker 2: wheel to the left or right and like.
Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, whoa, what was that?
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, I had to avoid something Like imagine
Speaker 2: a computer doing that and like next thing, you know,
Speaker 2: you're flipping or you're rolling. I mean that's really scary.
Speaker 2: And I think to me, it's like and we did
Speaker 2: it and it was fine. It was only a couple
Speaker 2: of minutes. It was you know, ten fifteen minutes, and
Speaker 2: you know, this thing is accelerating, it's changing lanes. It
Speaker 2: wasn't passing cars like it wasn't like going in front
Speaker 2: of a car that was like slow.
Speaker 1: It wasn't aggressive that right.
Speaker 2: It's not a New Yorker, Yeah, but it's a New Yorker,
Speaker 2: I should say Jersey.
Speaker 1: I don't know whatever. I mean, I grew up on
Speaker 1: these space Yeah, but it was really interesting. I think
Speaker 1: they did a good job.
Speaker 2: And what Qualcomm is saying is they're selling this platform
Speaker 2: to automakers so that automakers, you know, can integrate this
Speaker 2: into their cars. And the idea being is that pretty
Speaker 2: much every car is going to have some level of
Speaker 2: autonomy in the next three or five years. I mean,
Speaker 2: Qualcom was targeting three years for this technology to make
Speaker 2: it into a car on the road, So we're ways off,
Speaker 2: but again, that's pretty big autonomy that this car got.
Speaker 2: As soon as we got onto the on ramp, it
Speaker 2: was like, okay, the car was like, I'm taking over,
Speaker 2: and the guys like takeover.
Speaker 1: It was like a it's like a back and forth.
Speaker 3: I'm taking over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so the car takes over and it's merges
Speaker 2: onto the freeway. It goes on the freeway, it changed
Speaker 2: lanes a bunch of times, and then exited the freeway
Speaker 2: and then finally said okay, time for you to take over.
Speaker 2: But imagine that you just drive to Vegas where you
Speaker 2: just say.
Speaker 4: Like, I'm going to Vegas and it goes on I'm
Speaker 4: taking over, and then suddenly you're like it was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I liked it.
Speaker 2: I love those things. And it reminded me of how
Speaker 2: far we've come from the first time I ever got
Speaker 2: into a self driving car was in Japan at c
Speaker 2: Tech and I got into a little Nissan and all
Speaker 2: this thing did was do one tiny loop. I'm talking
Speaker 2: maybe a five hundred foot loop inside a place, and
Speaker 2: all I can think of is, oh, my gosh, what
Speaker 2: if this car just accelerates right into the.
Speaker 1: Brick wall in front of me and I'm dead? And
Speaker 1: it didn't. But again, these are you scared? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I was apprehensive. I was like, I don't know what
Speaker 2: this car is going to do. And it was the
Speaker 2: car that we drove I was less apprehensive. They had
Speaker 2: a fail switch, like a big it's actually a big
Speaker 2: red button that's like boom, you press that.
Speaker 1: It's like an emergency stop switch. They had that.
Speaker 2: They had this little dashboard light which was red and green.
Speaker 2: If it's red, it's like, get the get out of
Speaker 2: take the wheel because robot has gone back. Yeah, the
Speaker 2: robot has has rebelled and go.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 4: It was fun, It was really cool. Okay, this next
Speaker 4: question comes from Jesse. I just read an article about
Speaker 4: juice hacking. What devices do you recommend to avoid juice
Speaker 4: avoid hacking danger?
Speaker 3: What is juice hacking?
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, so I'm curious. I think it's juice jacking. Actually,
Speaker 1: juice hacking. Juice jacking. So juice jacking is when, yeah,
Speaker 1: juice hacking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well she's she saw an article. It's it's really
Speaker 2: juice jacking. It's hacking, whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 2: but juice jacking. So juice jacking is when you plug
Speaker 2: your phone into you know, you're at the airport and
Speaker 2: there's this nice little USB charger right there on the
Speaker 2: side of your chair, and you plug your phone in
Speaker 2: and next thing you know, all the data and pictures
Speaker 2: and everything on your phone is just sucked out. And
Speaker 2: now it's in the hands of criminals and cyber criminals,
Speaker 2: and they've got everything at the air and they've got
Speaker 2: all the pictures of Megan taking shots in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: Oh wait I have that? Yeah, oh wait, that was
Speaker 1: on my Instagram stories. So yeah, does this really happen.
Speaker 2: Probably yes, somewhere in the world someone's phone has been
Speaker 2: juice jacked. The reality is at an airport, though, probably.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, is it gonna happen to you? I would
Speaker 2: say your chances of juice jacking happening to you are
Speaker 2: ninety nine point nine percent.
Speaker 1: Not gonna happen now. That does leave point one percent.
Speaker 2: And if you're going to a country like China or
Speaker 2: a country uh in you know, like near Russia, I
Speaker 2: would be more concerned. And I'm not singling those countries out,
Speaker 2: but there. You know, there are opportunities for this to
Speaker 2: happen now at lax and you know whatever. It's also
Speaker 2: the phones are made these days, especially if you keep
Speaker 2: your software up to date, the phones are made to
Speaker 2: avoid these sorts of things. Have you ever plugged an
Speaker 2: iPhone into a new computer and it says, yeah, trust
Speaker 2: this device. Have you seen that message? Yeah, that is
Speaker 2: because of juice jacking. Because what it's saying is back
Speaker 2: in the day when you plug your iPhone in boom,
Speaker 2: it was just go whoop and it would just start sinking
Speaker 2: and doing all this stuff.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well after someone got juice jacked and hacked. Now,
Speaker 2: Apple said, oh, you know what, we should probably have
Speaker 2: a little prompt that says, hey, we just noticed that
Speaker 2: you plugged your computer and this computer is asking for
Speaker 2: some data. You have to press something on your screen,
Speaker 2: and if you have a passcode on your phone, you
Speaker 2: have to type in your passcode to approve that computer.
Speaker 2: So number one, that's probably gonna protect you if this
Speaker 2: happens on Android, they have very similar things as well.
Speaker 2: But you know, do you need to be concerned about this?
Speaker 2: Probably not for the average person. Should you be aware
Speaker 2: of it, absolutely, one hundred percent. Yeah, think about where
Speaker 2: you're plugging your phone in. If you're here at CS
Speaker 2: and you see some random little thing that's like plug your.
Speaker 1: Phone in here, yeah, data in here.
Speaker 2: But like if you're just like in the media room
Speaker 2: at CS and like, you know, you plug your phone. Now,
Speaker 2: some people might argue that the media room at CS
Speaker 2: would be the most ripe for hacking because think about
Speaker 2: all the international journalists in there and the information.
Speaker 1: So you do have to be on guard. But I
Speaker 1: think it just it's common sense prevails.
Speaker 3: But if you have a passcode, be smart.
Speaker 2: But also a lot of these little attacks require you
Speaker 2: to put in that pass code, do all this stuff.
Speaker 2: Then they have to download little tiny piece of software
Speaker 2: to your phone. Then your phone is communicating, so a
Speaker 2: lot of little steps. It's not like you imagine that
Speaker 2: they do it on TV shows where you plug your
Speaker 2: phone in and it's charging, and while it's charging, it's
Speaker 2: like five four that big status bar off like we're
Speaker 2: getting all.
Speaker 1: Of Megan's data in three two fun with that.
Speaker 3: It's really not that great data.
Speaker 2: So I again, be aware of this, and it's good
Speaker 2: to even know what this is all about, but just
Speaker 2: be aware. It's kind of like the skimmers at the
Speaker 2: gas station. It's not because we know that people skim
Speaker 2: credit cards that you don't fill up on gas. It's
Speaker 2: just you kind of are aware if you see some
Speaker 2: weird wires hang out of the gas pump and when
Speaker 2: you're putting your credit card in and you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: go away, maybe I shouldn't use that.
Speaker 3: So what if you really need gas, then just do.
Speaker 2: It and let your credit card company deal with it.
Speaker 2: Use your credit card at the pump for now. Don't
Speaker 2: use your credit card. We talked about that in the
Speaker 2: last podcast, didn't we All right, so let's see what
Speaker 2: else do we want to talk about the let's see,
Speaker 2: we got this Coldgate toothbrush.
Speaker 1: We talk about this. This is kind of interesting.
Speaker 2: Colgate has a new toothbrush called the Plaquelists, and it's
Speaker 2: very simple. It's a it's a smart toothbrush. Smart everything
Speaker 2: smart nowadays everything is smart. Toothbrushes are smart everything every
Speaker 2: ya when I say everything, Yes, I've been to the
Speaker 2: adult toy section.
Speaker 1: It's all smart.
Speaker 2: It's kind of crazy like that was actually one of
Speaker 2: the craziest things of going to the show is having
Speaker 2: these people demo products for you that they're just like
Speaker 2: throwing out terms that like you don't normally hear on
Speaker 2: a daily basis.
Speaker 3: What are we talking about?
Speaker 1: Oh, this this stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just like explaining how things work, and you're
Speaker 2: just like, ah, you're hearing stuff that like you don't
Speaker 2: normally hear and from like an average person on the
Speaker 2: street that's like talking to you and like holding this
Speaker 2: thing in their hand and demoing this targets.
Speaker 1: This, this, this TAP's that this does. That is but
Speaker 1: boat boom boom, and.
Speaker 3: You're like they're like so comfortable talking about it, and you're.
Speaker 2: Like I was like okay, And it's really funny because
Speaker 2: I'll be honest, there's a lot of people at these
Speaker 2: booths and there's a lot of normal people. I mean
Speaker 2: normal people, just like regular like you know, Bob the
Speaker 2: businessman from South Dakota.
Speaker 4: It's like, I didn't realize that last year there was
Speaker 4: some invention and that that had won an award at
Speaker 4: CES and then they and then CS took the award away.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they weren't ready for it. Last year they weren't.
Speaker 2: CS was not as an organization, was not ready for
Speaker 2: the revolution. Yeah, and now they are, and now it's
Speaker 2: this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been kind of totally normal.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like like I predicted, it might take over
Speaker 2: the show, take over the headlines. It definitely did grab
Speaker 2: a lot of headlines and it still continues to. I
Speaker 2: noticed the top three trending search with CS was CS
Speaker 2: sextech on Google. So it's not like people ignored it.
Speaker 2: It's just the mainstream media is not necessarily going to
Speaker 2: show what I saw on the Today Show, which just
Speaker 2: not gonna happen, or you're not going to see it
Speaker 2: in tech smart. But it's out there and you will
Speaker 2: see it on blogs and you will see people covering
Speaker 2: it and mainstream blogs covering it as well. It's not
Speaker 2: just you know these other things anyway.
Speaker 1: So back to Coldgate.
Speaker 2: So Coldgate placklist pro wait, start talking about electric toothbrush,
Speaker 2: and it's really interesting it The bottom line with this toothbrush,
Speaker 2: it has indicator lights on it and it also has
Speaker 2: sensors on the toothbrush that looked for plaque on your teeth,
Speaker 2: and when you pull the toothbrush out of your mouth,
Speaker 2: if there's still plaqu present on your teeth, the lights
Speaker 2: are like, hey, you.
Speaker 1: Still need to keep going. Oh, and so it uses it.
Speaker 2: Let's see the users using a light ring around the toothbrush.
Speaker 2: The user sees a blue light when build up has
Speaker 2: been found, the white light appears to let you know
Speaker 2: you can move on. So you brush the quadrants of
Speaker 2: your mouth and you kind of pull this thing out
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, cool, that quadrant's clean because the
Speaker 2: light is white.
Speaker 3: I like that, right, that would really make me brush
Speaker 3: my teeth.
Speaker 2: I think, wouldn't it be really like evil and sinister
Speaker 2: by Colgate if they were just like, ah, let's just
Speaker 2: make people brush their teeth a lot more than they
Speaker 2: have to, and they just like like some engineer like
Speaker 2: revs up.
Speaker 1: That's long. Oh gosh.
Speaker 2: Anyway, So that's that's another product that I thought was
Speaker 2: pretty cool. I mean, like I said, everything is getting connected.
Speaker 2: It kind of gets a little tiring to see, like, oh,
Speaker 2: your pillow is now smart and it's telling you how
Speaker 2: you sleep. But the reality is there are a lot
Speaker 2: of people in this world, and there's a lot of
Speaker 2: people that if you have a very normal or I
Speaker 2: shouldn't say normal, typical, If you have a very typical
Speaker 2: health profile, you wake up, you go to sleep, everything's okay,
Speaker 2: you can eat whatever you want whatever, like, good for you.
Speaker 2: But there are billions of people in this world and
Speaker 2: a lot of people have issues. They may not be
Speaker 2: apparent to you when you see this person on the street,
Speaker 2: but they may have trouble sleeping, or they may have
Speaker 2: trouble eating cheese, or they may have trouble snoring, or
Speaker 2: they may have trouble in the bedroom, whatever it is.
Speaker 2: And again, there is something for everyone. And it's like
Speaker 2: when you see this technology and you see these people
Speaker 2: working on this stuff good because there's a lot of people,
Speaker 2: there's always a market for it. So while you may
Speaker 2: say this smart toothbrush is really stupid, like personally, like
Speaker 2: I get cavities really easily, and it's super frustrating because
Speaker 2: I brush my teeth like crazy. I'm very you know,
Speaker 2: hygienic with teeth and all this stuff, and like you
Speaker 2: ask your dentists, he's like, eh, just a genetics you
Speaker 2: were handed, And it's like, well, that's frustrating. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: now if this toothbrush can keep me from getting a cavity, amazing.
Speaker 4: Well compared to the we saw another toothbrush or they're
Speaker 4: calling it a y brush. Yeah, and it can brush
Speaker 4: your teeth in ten seconds.
Speaker 1: I mean I did want to try it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I'm curious, does that brush your teeth well?
Speaker 2: So that one looks like well, I'm sure they did
Speaker 2: the research and figured it out. I mean, but that's
Speaker 2: again another dream to me. So if I can put
Speaker 2: this toothbrush, which kind of looks like a whitening tray
Speaker 2: with bristles, so it looks like a whitening tray with bristles,
Speaker 2: you put it on your bottom teeth, you press a button,
Speaker 2: it vibrates for five seconds. You flip it over, you
Speaker 2: put it on your top teeth, vibrates for five seconds.
Speaker 2: They say it's gonna give you a full clean.
Speaker 4: I guess that makes sense because you're supposed to brush
Speaker 4: like each tooth.
Speaker 3: For five seconds.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, Okay, So I mean I did not get
Speaker 2: to try that one. I actually had an appointment, but
Speaker 2: it was something got mixed up. I did want to
Speaker 2: try that, and I'll probably get them to send me
Speaker 2: one if I can, because I I'd love to, and
Speaker 2: the brush that I'm using, I don't want to. I
Speaker 2: feel bad, but someone yeah, sorry, yeah, no whatever, it's fine.
Speaker 2: But someone, a dentist emailed me on DM and said,
Speaker 2: don't use that. So I actually there's another one called
Speaker 2: Burst that they recommended, so I'm gonna maybe try that
Speaker 2: one now. But I used to use Sonic Care, which
Speaker 2: I really liked. But again, all these things are getting connected,
Speaker 2: they're all getting better. And when when you pass these
Speaker 2: things off, when you see the things like we did
Speaker 2: a story with this smart diaper sensor that tells you
Speaker 2: when your baby's diaper's wet, and you're like, oh, that's stupid.
Speaker 1: You're just a lazy parent.
Speaker 2: Like before you have these quick knee jerk reactions to
Speaker 2: new technology. Yeah, just imagine there are a lot of people, right,
Speaker 2: Maybe not everyone is able to check their baby's diaper
Speaker 2: or whatever every five minutes. Maybe there's people that work
Speaker 2: from home, yeah whatever it is. And also or maybe
Speaker 2: your baby has a really sensitive bottom and it can't
Speaker 2: go five minutes, you know, with that wet diaper, and
Speaker 2: or they get it a rash, or they have a
Speaker 2: rash and you want to know immediately when they wet.
Speaker 2: So again, there's a lot of different circumstances surrounding this technology.
Speaker 4: But what I think is also cool is the idea
Speaker 4: that like, okay for that, you know with the baby diaper.
Speaker 3: Thing, in ten years, like that's going to be everywhere.
Speaker 1: And it'll be built into every diper.
Speaker 3: It'll be like inexpensive.
Speaker 4: And so like when people like I was watching the
Speaker 4: hit this morning on Katla and watching the anchors reaction
Speaker 4: to the story, and like they were like, oh, you
Speaker 4: know this is they were just kind of saying, like
Speaker 4: this is ridiculous. But I mean in ten years when
Speaker 4: I if I have kids, like this is gonna be normal,
Speaker 4: and like.
Speaker 3: They're gonna have it at CDs probably, and that.
Speaker 1: Every diaper will have it built in.
Speaker 3: It'll help, you know.
Speaker 2: And that's that's the point again. And everything starts out expensive.
Speaker 2: Yeah you see the price? What would I see today?
Speaker 2: This digital sign that is for like restaurants, it's like
Speaker 2: this giant like you know how signs have like a
Speaker 2: big billboard inside which like tells you like a special
Speaker 2: or something, you know, like they're advertising something.
Speaker 1: Well, this one's digital, so they can change it. It
Speaker 1: looks really cool.
Speaker 2: They can roll it around whatever, and it's ten thousand
Speaker 2: bucks today. In the future, it's gonna be three hundred bucks,
Speaker 2: and every mom and pop, you know, restaurant can have
Speaker 2: it and have these really cool signs that get your attention.
Speaker 1: They have like steaming soup on it, and you're.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, I want that soup because it's like a
Speaker 2: picture of someone's slurping soup and you know.
Speaker 1: So it's just it's just.
Speaker 2: This is what I love about shows like this is
Speaker 2: that you get a glimpse of the future. Yes, am
Speaker 2: I buying all this stuff today?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course I am.
Speaker 1: I would love to, but I'm not getting it all today.
Speaker 2: But I love seeing It's like it opens up these
Speaker 2: little pathways in your brain, going.
Speaker 1: Oh that's interesting. Okay, I can rely see why people
Speaker 1: like that stuff. All right, I'll do one more question
Speaker 1: from you, one more gadget, and then we're gonna have
Speaker 1: an interview. One more question with our host here.
Speaker 3: Okay, this next question is from Bob.
Speaker 4: How do these big companies like rise In sell these
Speaker 4: expensive iPhones and charge high monthly fees and give the
Speaker 4: most incredibly terrible service The people are great. However, the
Speaker 4: resolution to the problem can take hours, you know. Basically,
Speaker 4: he goes on to say that he was on.
Speaker 3: Hold for three hours the other day.
Speaker 4: After talking with someone. After one and a half hours,
Speaker 4: what happened? Okay, so you get the point.
Speaker 1: So he's frustrated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's frustrated because he's paying a monthly fee. Did
Speaker 2: he mention a company specifically, yeah, okay, So, which that's
Speaker 2: actually kind of funny because I feel like Verizon has
Speaker 2: such good customer service, Like every time I've ever called them,
Speaker 2: like I've had Verizon and AT and T, and I
Speaker 2: feel like the difference is pretty is pretty intense. Like Verizon,
Speaker 2: I feel like my problems are solved with the first
Speaker 2: person they stay on the line with you.
Speaker 1: So I mean, but again, there'd be like.
Speaker 3: A little like thing next to your name that.
Speaker 2: Says like, no, are you kidding? They have no idea, No, oh,
Speaker 2: this is oh my gosh. Rich is one of a
Speaker 2: billion journalists in the world that covered TECHNOLOGYE me, nobody cares.
Speaker 1: Now nobody when I call any company, they don't care.
Speaker 2: They don't know who I am from anyone else. But
Speaker 2: I will say, I just feel like Verizon's really good.
Speaker 2: But I understand his frustration in general. And what he's
Speaker 2: trying to say is we pay good money to these
Speaker 2: companies and you feel like sometimes they just take it
Speaker 2: for granted. And I'll give you an example, Simply Safe,
Speaker 2: which I have. They it took I called them one
Speaker 2: time for help, and it was like I was on
Speaker 2: hold for it, said.
Speaker 1: Hold will be a half an hour, half an hour.
Speaker 2: I pay you guys twenty five bucks a month, what
Speaker 2: And so I'm sitting there And so I actually did
Speaker 2: not get this problem solved with them for six months
Speaker 2: because I just didn't feel like waiting on hold for
Speaker 2: half an hour. And so finally once I did, the
Speaker 2: guy was super friendly.
Speaker 1: That was on, you know, that came on.
Speaker 2: Solve my problem in about three minutes, and so I
Speaker 2: was very happy. And I'm like, and it's kind of
Speaker 2: like it resets the clock. It resets like my little
Speaker 2: anger clock, you know. I'm like, Okay, well I'm good
Speaker 2: with Simply Safe again. But the thing is these companies
Speaker 2: just it's like sometimes it does depend on the person
Speaker 2: you get. Sometimes it just kind of goes with the company.
Speaker 2: They're just kind of weird. And that's the day.
Speaker 3: He did say the people are great.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so it's just companies.
Speaker 3: So he's just angry about the companies, angry about the
Speaker 3: amount of time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I don't have a solution. Get human.
Speaker 2: You can check out a lot of these companies are
Speaker 2: doing the thing where they call you back when they
Speaker 2: have a customer service person available.
Speaker 1: You can try that, but otherwise you just got to
Speaker 1: roll with it all. Right. Final gadget we'll talk about
Speaker 1: is the Halo Touch.
Speaker 2: This is from Quickset, and this is a smart lock
Speaker 2: for your house that uses your fingerprint, and I see
Speaker 2: the pro and con. The pro is that's probably more
Speaker 2: secure than using a digit, you know, like the four
Speaker 2: digit code or six digit code, because you can't really
Speaker 2: recreate a fingerprint. The downside is you have to have
Speaker 2: everyone that comes to your house that wants to open
Speaker 2: the door scan their fingerprint. So imagine telling your housekeeper
Speaker 2: that they need you need to scan their fingerprint on
Speaker 2: your front door so that they can come in.
Speaker 3: They'd be like no, or you think that's weird to ask?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2: Really I would not want to be like, oh, Grandma, Nana,
Speaker 2: can you scan your fingerprint?
Speaker 1: Maybe?
Speaker 3: But like we had that at my sorority.
Speaker 1: Also fingerprint scanner, yeah to get in real nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh interesting, that was like five years ago.
Speaker 2: Wow, okay, well that was a corporate that that was
Speaker 2: probably a commercial solution. But this is for your house now,
Speaker 2: which is again we always see these things come through
Speaker 2: the commercial sector, first business to business and now it's
Speaker 2: trickled down two hundred and fifty bucks. They'll be available
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, in a couple months. I think Halo
Speaker 2: Touch Wi Fi smart lock, I think it's pretty cool. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you can register up to fifty different people or one
Speaker 2: hundred fingerprints.
Speaker 3: I think that's funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have fifty people.
Speaker 2: I have a bunch of people on mine though, Like
Speaker 2: I have an electronic door lock, and I have a
Speaker 2: bunch of people on mind.
Speaker 3: Can you put them in certain like time?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Yet in a like one in the morning, No, yeah.
Speaker 2: No, you have I definitely don't have the house person
Speaker 2: that comes to clean uh coming in at They do.
Speaker 1: Not have access.
Speaker 3: It's not that she or he would want to, but
Speaker 3: you never know.
Speaker 2: What if someone goes rogue on you and then they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: I have the key code to you know, Rich's house.
Speaker 1: Ye, So yeah, all right.
Speaker 2: Coming up next, we are going to talk to our
Speaker 2: lovely hosts here in the minivan. We've got Chris Heiser,
Speaker 2: Renouvo CEO, to tell us what this minivan is all about.
Speaker 3: You were listening to rich one.
Speaker 2: All right, we got Renovo CEO Chris Heiser joining us
Speaker 2: in the minivan. Chris, thanks so much for letting us
Speaker 2: use the minivan.
Speaker 5: Hey, thank you rich for having us. This is the
Speaker 5: coolest minivan in all all of ces. It's down here
Speaker 5: on the floor in the north hall and excited to
Speaker 5: be here with you.
Speaker 1: Tell me about Renovo and this minivan. What do you
Speaker 1: guys do.
Speaker 5: So, Renovo's a software company, and what we do is
Speaker 5: we help automotive companies develop the core software inside of
Speaker 5: the cars that you're sitting in now. And cars are
Speaker 5: basically big computers.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 5: Where people see vehicles, we see computing, sensors, data, and
Speaker 5: so everything that goes into this vehicle requires hundreds or
Speaker 5: thousands of software developers all over the world working in
Speaker 5: tandem to produce something like this. And what Raalvo does
Speaker 5: is we help them evaluate the data that comes from
Speaker 5: these vehicles so they can learn faster, they can build
Speaker 5: better software.
Speaker 2: What type of data is the typical vehicle today collecting
Speaker 2: on the driver and the vehicle.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So what's amazing is vehicles you can buy today
Speaker 5: might have as many as a dozen cameras, They have
Speaker 5: radar sensors, they have light our sensors, and they have
Speaker 5: hundreds of embedded sensors detecting temperature, pressure, or anything that
Speaker 5: you can think of.
Speaker 1: So this is one of the.
Speaker 5: Most sensitive and powerful sensing devices in the world. And
Speaker 5: so this thing is continuously recording data and it can
Speaker 5: use it to operate itself. But more importantly, you can
Speaker 5: use that data to improve how it works. You can
Speaker 5: see how people interact with it, you can see how
Speaker 5: it interacts with the world, and if you can get
Speaker 5: that data to the developers, you can improve the software
Speaker 5: in real time and ultimately build better, safer, and.
Speaker 1: More fun vehicles. Well, tell me about this car. What's
Speaker 1: going on in this minivan?
Speaker 5: So the Chrysler PACIFICA that we're in today, we use
Speaker 5: as a way to communicate with people about how much
Speaker 5: data is actually created. And so you look at something
Speaker 5: like this, which has the hundreds of sensors that it is
Speaker 5: mentioned that's generating usually around four to five terabytes of
Speaker 5: data for every hour that it runs on the road. Wow,
Speaker 5: it's a massive amount of data. And when you multiply
Speaker 5: that across a fleet of vehicles, say Teslas six hundred
Speaker 5: thousand vehicles, it's generating hundreds of petabytes of data every
Speaker 5: single day. So the challenge is how do you find
Speaker 5: the interesting pieces of data within that massive haystack. How
Speaker 5: do you pick that data out and get it to
Speaker 5: people that need it most, and how do you do
Speaker 5: that basically in real time?
Speaker 1: Now, does that mean my car has a hard drive
Speaker 1: that's some of this data is being stored off? You've
Speaker 1: got it.
Speaker 5: I mean I think look at your car like a
Speaker 5: laptop or a PC. Now, it's exactly the same type
Speaker 5: of computing devices that are in these vehicles. They have
Speaker 5: high performance computers that are connected to the sensors in
Speaker 5: real time, and they're jetterating and storing a lot of data.
Speaker 2: Yet when my wife's check engine light comes on, she
Speaker 2: still has to go to the dealership and figure out
Speaker 2: why that's coming on.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, I think what you're going to see over the
Speaker 5: next few years is those check engine lights now are
Speaker 5: going to be really communication with servers in real time,
Speaker 5: and in many cases those things can be diagnosed and
Speaker 5: even fixed out in the field with ever having to
Speaker 5: take the car to a dealership for service. And I
Speaker 5: think we've gotten used to that being how our laptops
Speaker 5: or our mobile phones work. Automotive is sort of the
Speaker 5: last great frontier and making software work the way that
Speaker 5: we wanted to. There's challenges in the automotive world. It's
Speaker 5: got to be safety critical, right, this is a life
Speaker 5: and death situation. But these are these are things that
Speaker 5: can be achieved with technology, and that's the area that
Speaker 5: Renoul's working in.
Speaker 2: So whenever I talk about technology and cars, and especially
Speaker 2: futuristic cars, we always imagine about software crashes. We're not
Speaker 2: talking about physical crashes, but people wonder if the software crashes,
Speaker 2: does my car stop working?
Speaker 1: Is that the case?
Speaker 5: Yeah, So one of the biggest challenges you have when
Speaker 5: designing these is to deal with these unexpected circumstances and
Speaker 5: make sure that if there is an error, it doesn't
Speaker 5: lead to something that is safety critical. So Renault's actually
Speaker 5: here partnering with BlackBerry Acunics. They do a real time
Speaker 5: operating system that has a lot of safety features built
Speaker 5: in at the ground level. And a great example of
Speaker 5: this is that you can have an application that's running,
Speaker 5: but then you have another application that's watching the first one,
Speaker 5: and when the first application begins to slow down or
Speaker 5: have some sort of an issue, that second application can
Speaker 5: slow the car down, or can swap it out, or
Speaker 5: can take some other type of measure to make sure
Speaker 5: that that error doesn't lead to something that could harm someone.
Speaker 5: And that in the entire auto motor space, and particularly
Speaker 5: in level four automation fully autonomous vehicles, this is what
Speaker 5: everyone's working on trying to build, you know, absolutely foolproof,
Speaker 5: absolutely rock solid software systems and hardware systems that can't fail.
Speaker 2: Now, when we talk about data and especially the car,
Speaker 2: what about privacy? Because all this data that's being collected,
Speaker 2: it tells you how fast I drive, It tells you
Speaker 2: if I take corners at a high rate of speed,
Speaker 2: if I'm an aggressive driver. A lot of people would
Speaker 2: like to have access to that information. The insurance companies, cities, states, government, whatever,
Speaker 2: how concerned we need to be about privacy when it
Speaker 2: comes to our cars.
Speaker 5: I think it's a really important discussion to have, and
Speaker 5: it's something that we need as an industry to take
Speaker 5: head on. Renovo operates on a global basis. We have
Speaker 5: customers in Europe. They are very very strong privacy laws
Speaker 5: GDPR in Europe that cover what you can and cannot
Speaker 5: do with data and what type of consent you need
Speaker 5: to get from the people that generate that data. Those
Speaker 5: laws aren't quite strong in the United States, although in
Speaker 5: California CCPA came into effect in January of this year.
Speaker 5: You're seeing this discussion come to the fore and it's
Speaker 5: important to have because the data can lead to incredibly
Speaker 5: positive outcomes for cities, for people safety, and I think
Speaker 5: there's also a question of does that turn into something
Speaker 5: that becomes a surveillance system that we'd all be uncomfortable with.
Speaker 5: We have to have this discussion, and it's going to
Speaker 5: be technologists, car companies, cities, regulators. We all need to
Speaker 5: get together and make sure we can build something that
Speaker 5: generates positive outcome but also protect privacy.
Speaker 2: All right, give me a little glimpse into the future
Speaker 2: of automotive. I mean, we know that cars are eventually
Speaker 2: going to drive themselves. How far are we from that?
Speaker 2: And just give me what your idea of the future
Speaker 2: of cars is.
Speaker 5: Sure, so automation is definitely on the rise, you'll start
Speaker 5: to see it in low speed, relatively sedate conditions in
Speaker 5: good weather. Leaders like Way already starting to do fully
Speaker 5: autonomous rides down in Arizona, and you'll see more and
Speaker 5: more people doing this. But I think the bigger story
Speaker 5: is that this vehicle that you're sitting in, in other cars,
Speaker 5: they're going to become more connected to our digital lifestyles.
Speaker 5: They're going to be more flexible, they're going to become
Speaker 5: much more easy to update, and ultimately they're going to
Speaker 5: allow us to focus more on our lives and take
Speaker 5: more and more of the driving and the drudgery of
Speaker 5: commuting away from us. And that's going to be great.
Speaker 5: We're going to get back time, We're going to get
Speaker 5: back a lot of choice and personalization. So that's fun.
Speaker 5: But there's a lot of things we need to do
Speaker 5: between twenty twenty in that future. But in the next
Speaker 5: five to ten years, the automotive industry as we know
Speaker 5: it will be completely remade.
Speaker 2: Chris Heiser, Ronovo CEO, thanks so much for lending us
Speaker 2: this car today.
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Thanks for your vision of the future
Speaker 1: and do good stuff with our data. Please, Rich Thanks.
Speaker 2: Well, now we know what this minivan is all about.
Speaker 2: My personal favorite part is the discolight.
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