1 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Hi, guys, and welcome to a new episode of couch 2 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: Talks on You Need Therapy Podcast. My name is Kat 3 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: and I am the host. If you are new to 4 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: the podcast in general or just couch Talks and you're like, 5 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: what is that, couch Talks is the bonus episode of 6 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: You Need Therapy Podcast where I tend to normally answer 7 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: questions that you guys sent to me that you can 8 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: send to Catherine at you Need Therapy podcast dot com. 9 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: And I read your question, we talk about your question, 10 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: we work through some things. I do not give direct 11 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: advice most of the time. And in all of that, 12 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: I want to remind all of you guys that although 13 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: I'm a therapist, I'm answering some questions. I'm talking to 14 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: you guys. This does not serve as a substitute for 15 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: any mental health service or a replacement for actual therapy. However, 16 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: it still can be helpful. Now, today I had a 17 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: whole thing planned out where I was going to answer 18 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: a question about how therapists know if you're lying or not, 19 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: or if they know if their clients are lying or not, 20 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: and what are their tricks? And maybe I will do 21 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: that one day. Maybe I'll do it next week, I 22 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: don't know if I will still be in that mood 23 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: answer that question, but I'm not going to do that today. 24 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you that because oftentimes when things happen 25 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: like in the world, I really sit in in question 26 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: of like, is this something I actually need to talk 27 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: about on the podcast? Is this something that I want 28 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: to just kind of like let be a thing outside 29 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: of this podcast world, because you know, all of the 30 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: issues in the world are not really made for you 31 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: need therapy, right Like, I can't talk about every single 32 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: thing happening in the news or in pump culture because 33 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: then this would become a news podcast or a top 34 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: culture podcast, and that's not what this is. So I 35 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: even say any of that because I want you guys 36 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: to know when I talk about something that's like happy 37 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: in the world, I do think about, Hey, do I 38 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: need to say this? I asked my three questions, does 39 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: this need to be said? Does this need to be 40 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: said right now? And does this need to be said 41 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: by me? And a lot of times I say no, 42 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: no no, or yes no no or any version of that, 43 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: and there's no one there. Today I had a yes, yes, yes, 44 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: and my initial gut reaction when I started hearing and 45 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: reading about the comments that have been made by Kanye 46 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: West and then the unthinkable actions followed by anti Semitics. 47 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: My gut reaction initially was don't give them or him 48 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: any more airtime or space or continue to repeat their 49 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: horrifying message. I don't want to promote that, and I 50 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: don't want to promote any form of encouraging that. And 51 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: then I was like, waitch a second. There's actually so 52 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: much more here than those comments and those actions. There 53 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: are so many conversations that are weaved into the larger 54 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: conversation that's actually being had. And as I was thinking 55 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: about it, I remember this very important thing that I 56 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: believe about humans and attention and how we are really 57 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: quick to say, specifically when we're talking about kids, we're 58 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: really quick to say, don't mind them, they're just looking 59 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: for attention when they're acting out in anyway, like, don't 60 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: give them attention, that's just what they want. They'll stop eventually. 61 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. We we've all said that, heard that 62 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: been a part of that. However, what we forget is 63 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: that kids make noise often because they need to get 64 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: attention to have a neat men. They are relying on us, 65 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: and they sometimes don't know the best way to ask 66 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: for what they need. However, very much when a behavior, 67 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: any kind of acting out is happening, it's not just 68 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: because people are bad. It's because it's a need and 69 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: we might not have the best way to express that 70 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: or ask for that. We don't maybe really know what 71 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: we need. There's a lot more to that, and that's all. 72 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: That's a whole conversation. Like I said, there's a lot 73 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: of conversations in this conversation, but we know largely is 74 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: that the longer we ignore a sound or a noise 75 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 1: or a behavior, the longer we then avoid tending to 76 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: a need. And maybe the need isn't what the individual 77 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: thinks it is. Right, So maybe a child screaming because 78 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: they want a candy at a checkoutline and their mom 79 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: says no, and they really think they need that, and 80 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: so they're screaming and the moms that ignore that. But 81 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: maybe what they need is an app right, Like, there's 82 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: a behavior and it's kind of guiding to some kind 83 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: of need that's there. Okay, Well, in adults, maybe what 84 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: an adult is asking for attention wise, they want followers 85 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: and likes, and all this, but what they really need 86 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: is some love and belonging, right, so we could give 87 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: a million examples of that. So what I want to 88 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: do today and what I've actually decided to do it 89 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: instead of answering that question that maybe we'll come up 90 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: in the future, is I want to give some attention 91 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: where there actually is in need, and maybe it's a 92 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: need that we need reminded of today. And what I'm 93 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: not is an expert on Kanye West or any other 94 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: people involved in the things that are showing up in 95 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: the news, and I'm not. I don't want to give 96 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: attention to those I don't know Kanye West. I don't 97 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: know his story, I don't know his people. I don't 98 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: know enough about any of that to offer any real 99 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: reliable information thought help. What I do know is that 100 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: there is a lot of fear in the world, specifically 101 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: right now inside Jewish people and their communities, which makes 102 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: a lot of sense. So I want to give attention 103 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: to something that we very easily forget. I want to 104 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: bring us back into some awareness that we very easily 105 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: can fall asleep too, because it is what I want. 106 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to give attention to something that is harmful. 107 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: I want to actually give some hope and some comfort 108 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: and some love to people who are scared. And something 109 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: that we so easily forget is that words are so 110 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: freaking important, which is very interesting because Tara Booker and 111 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: I actually talked about that this week on the podcast 112 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: UM the Monday episode. Words are the most powerful form 113 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: of communication that we have. Sometimes it's all we have, 114 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: like the most powerful form of communication. And as I 115 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: was preparing for this episode, I became very anxious, almost 116 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: like paralyzed, like should I do this? I don't know 117 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: if I should do this. Am I going to have 118 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: the right words? Because I want to send a message 119 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: it's specific, not one that's in between the lines, and 120 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: the words I choose are a direct line to me 121 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: achieving that there is a like very vibrant responsibility and 122 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: understanding words and understanding the words we choose, knowing the 123 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: meaning of them, and then actually choosing them, and then 124 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: whether or not we repeat words we hear, there is 125 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: a responsibility and ignoring certain words or giving certain words 126 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: that we hear attention. There's responsibility and all of that. 127 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: And that's something that you very easily can fall asleep too, 128 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: especially if it's not directly in my face, touching me. Um, 129 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: maybe it's touching my neighbor, or maybe it's touching my 130 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: neighbor three streets down, so I can just turn the side, 131 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: fall asleep and ignore that. And right now I have 132 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: a lot of words attached to my own feelings, my 133 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: personal feelings and thoughts about the I mean completely inexcusable 134 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: verbal violence that is being displayed and the widely misunderstood 135 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: and often ignored mental health crises in our culture. I 136 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: have a lot of words with that. And we don't 137 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: understand mental illness and very often it's not taken very seriously, 138 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: so then symptoms are ignored or maybe they're thrown out 139 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: as bad behavior, poor life choices. People then end up 140 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: being seen as evil or bad and they're like humanity 141 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: is kind of stripped from them, which I can understand 142 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: how that happens, Like it makes total sense to me, 143 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: because we can't know what we don't know. However, what 144 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: happens is then the people who are sick don't get help. 145 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,239 Speaker 1: Then the chaos continues, judgment continues, and the biggest issue, 146 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: the harm continues, and whether or not we want to 147 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: accept this as truth, mental illness is not like another 148 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: person's issue. It's not like, oh, you have this, so 149 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: that's your problem, you fix it. It's not going to 150 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: affect me. It's even if we don't struggle with any 151 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: mental health disorder or struggle anything, mental illness is going 152 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: to affect us because it's all around us. But I 153 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: will say, that's not what I want to actually give 154 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: attention to today. We are going to have a conversation 155 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: around that in the future. It is coming, I promise. 156 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: But what I want to give attention to, and what 157 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: I really want to, like harp On, is the continued flippancy, 158 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: if that's even a word that we give to the 159 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: words we choose to speak, whether from a microphone, whether 160 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: to another person that I'm just talking one on one with, 161 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: or whether I'm typing these behind a keyboard and I'm 162 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: talking to somebody I don't know, or I'm talking to 163 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: somebody I know. I do know, but they don't know me. 164 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: Like we just kind of throw words out like they're nothing, 165 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: like we can forget them, like they can't be weapons, 166 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: and and they can be. We can only control what 167 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: we can control, and I can't control what other people say. 168 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: I can't control what other people do. I can't control 169 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: other people think. I just can't. I wish I could. 170 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: I can have influence, but I cannot control something. I 171 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: can't control a celebrity's mental health journey. I can't control 172 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: a community's reaction to something. I can't control any of that. However, 173 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: we individually, and I individually, can't control what I say, 174 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: how I speak, what I repeat, and what I don't repeat. 175 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: And I am just encouraging us, right, I can't. I 176 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: can't control you, but I can encourage you to take 177 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: that more seriously. And I want to take some space 178 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: here to lay down a reminder that the things that 179 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: we read and here have a direct impact on how 180 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: we think and behave Right. We are not born with 181 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: a belief system in our brain. It is created by 182 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: our experiences. Our experiences are created by the things that 183 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: we read, the things that we're told, the things that 184 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: we hear, the things that we see. So what I 185 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: say and write and all those things, how I use 186 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: my words will have an effect on someone even if 187 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: I don't know them, And the same applies to you. 188 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: Comments are not just comments, whether we're speaking them or 189 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: typing them, comments or not just comments. They've become calls 190 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: to action. And I'm not just talking about celebrities and 191 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: public figures because all of our comments are created with words. 192 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: That means all of our comments hold power. So please, please, please, please, 193 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: I want you guys to think about this. Don't, for 194 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: us second believe that sticks and stones can break my bones. 195 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: Vote words can never hurt me. That's not true. And 196 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: I think whoever created that rhyme probably had the same 197 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: intentions of those parents who told their self conscious middle 198 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: school or that you're not fat, you're just big boned. 199 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: Good intentions, right, So the person who created that ryme 200 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: might be like, oh, I'm trying to help somebody, be like, oh, 201 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: that doesn't matter, or say whatever you want. But the 202 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: thing is being told that you're big boned when society 203 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: tells you that smaller is better isn't actually very helpful, right. 204 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: I think we're that that's perpetuating a whole issue. And 205 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: words don't just hurt. First of all, they can hurt, 206 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: and they don't just hurt. They are the very things 207 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: that have the power to kill us, kill our communities, 208 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: kill our like love for one another. They are again, 209 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: the most powerful tool that most of us have, and 210 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: so I want to encourage guys, and I want to 211 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: use my words to encourage you to choose yours wisely. 212 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: And again, we can't control what other people say, but 213 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 1: we can control how we respond to our friends and 214 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: our neighbors. And we can control how we respond to 215 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: those things that don't make sense to us. And we 216 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: can control what we learn about and what we choose 217 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: to to do some research on, and we can control 218 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: how we choose to love people. And so this really 219 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 1: is a much bigger issue than what's happening right now, 220 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: because I think our world continues daily in all different spaces, 221 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: to ignore the power that the words we use hold, 222 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: and I don't know that we can long term survived 223 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: doing that. And I'm talking about from celebrities saying completely outlandish, violent, 224 00:12:53,679 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: abusive things two. Gossip two, the comment we think we 225 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: need to make on somebody's picture, two, the joke we 226 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: think we need to make to a group of people 227 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: who we don't other stories. And I'm not saying don't 228 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: have a sense of humor. I'm just saying we might 229 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: want to think about what we're saying more often. And 230 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: it's hard. I know it's hard, but there's room for 231 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: grace and there's room for learning. Right, we can't know 232 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: what we we don't know, and we can often times 233 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: use that call back. Well, I guess I haven't learned 234 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: that yet, and after listening to this podcast, you've learned that. 235 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: So I think I've said what I need to say. 236 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: And I hope that you guys are having the day 237 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: that you need to have, whether that's a day of 238 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: um giving yourself some real good care and love and 239 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: nourishment because the world is kind of cucku right now, 240 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: or that's you thinking about the words that you want 241 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: to use today more intently. Thank you guys for listening 242 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: to this and hearing me and taking the space trusting 243 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: me and trusting me with my words. I don't take 244 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: that lightly. And I will be back with you guys 245 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: on Monday. I have a really exciting episode for you, 246 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: So I hope you get excited and in the meantime 247 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: continue to have those days you need to have.