1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty and now he Armstrong and Getty. 4 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 3: European officials are treating this is if it's a crisis moment, 5 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 3: and what's about to take place in Davos, the meetings 6 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 3: the President is going to have, whoever meets with him, 7 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 3: the meetings that they'll be having on the sidelines as 8 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 3: well aside from the President. 9 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 2: It is that kind of a moment of we need 10 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 2: to figure out it. 11 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 3: I think Mark Karney in Davos today earlier said this 12 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 3: isn't a transition, this is a rupture, and I think 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 3: that's how it's being viewed. 14 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 4: Is it full crisis mode, red alert Defcon one, the 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 4: post World War two order is falling apart? 16 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 5: Or is it we have a lot of meetings scheduled 17 00:00:55,480 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 5: on Greenland. I'm leaving tonight, as you know Davos. We 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 5: have a lot of meeting scheduled on Greenland, and I 19 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 5: think things are going to work out pretty well. 20 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 4: Try to sound less like Don Corleoni and the Godfather, 21 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 4: mister President, so him saying yeah, we're gonna have a 22 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 4: lot of meetings. 23 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: It'll work out fine. 24 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 4: I think that was one of Trump's first winks at 25 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 4: the camera or the audience, where he said, we'll get 26 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 4: together and talk about it. 27 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 2: All this has been posturing. 28 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: You think by the end of the day today, the crisis, 29 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: if it is a crisis, will be over. I mean 30 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: media outlets are reporting like European leaders are treating this 31 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: like a crisis. 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if they actually are or not. 33 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, oh yeah, as the news report said, they 34 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 4: quoted Mark Karney, who is the weak lefty leader of 35 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 4: Canada and who cares although the Conservative would have gotten 36 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 4: elected if Trump hadn't said over and over again we 37 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 4: were going to annex Canada. Anyway, he's saying, yeah, it's 38 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 4: a rupture, not a transition. I've been saying all along. 39 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 4: The idea of like military action is so insane for reasons. 40 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 4: I'll explain a minute that it just it's not going 41 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 4: to happen. So what is the next most likely thing 42 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 4: to happen, And that's a negotiated settlement? 43 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: Now shocks damage is done? 44 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 4: Well, lord, oh boy, who are you gonna shock the 45 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 4: bowlar bears? Anyway, the most likely scenario is a negotiating settlement. 46 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 4: But how much damage is going to be done by 47 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 4: Trump's bowling the China Shop act? 48 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought this was interesting. I finally 49 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: came across sellum until the penguins bounce? 50 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 4: Oh boy, wait what? Tom Rogan is a super smart guy. 51 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 4: Sometimes I agree with him, Sometimes I think he's off 52 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 4: his rocker took the time to play out what would 53 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 4: happen if Trump gave an order to seize Greenland by force? 54 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 4: And he says, and feel free to you know, agree 55 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 4: or disagree with any of these obviously, but he said 56 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 4: it would likely provoke a mass resignation of the Joint 57 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 4: Chiefs of Staff in protest of an unjustified attack on 58 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 4: a close ally. 59 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 2: That is true. 60 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: I think I think all the Joint chiefs would resign. 61 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: I think you'd see seventy five generals resign. But Pengoin's 62 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: carefully preserved, and who can blame them? Would they be 63 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: quickly replaced by Trump agreement? People who say. 64 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 4: Okay, let's do it, let's go ahead and attack and 65 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 4: NATO member I don't think so. The US military knows 66 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 4: the ultimate foundation of its powers and guns, but America's 67 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 4: moral credibility and shared strategic interests with allies. 68 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: Okay, I hear it rests. 69 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 4: Only the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs would likely 70 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 4: remain in office, and even then only to uphold the 71 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 4: sacred principle of civilian control over the military. The order 72 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 4: would spark immediate action from bipartisan majorities in Congress for 73 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 4: much the same reason, holding suggest Americans overwhelmingly oppose any attack. 74 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 4: Mister Trump would extinguish his political capital in a single moment. 75 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 4: The GOP's already fleeting midterm election prospects would evaporate, the 76 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 4: Age of MAGA. 77 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: Would come to an icy and abrupt end. 78 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 4: Congress would likely move immediately to block funding or otherwise 79 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 4: restrict the use of military force in short order and 80 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 4: for good reason, etcetera, etcetera. 81 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: You don't think we could just you know, we just 82 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: pull a boat up there to the beach, and a 83 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: bunch of marines get off, and they walk to the 84 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: Capitol and they lower their flag and put up ours, 85 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: and nobody's going to fire a shot. 86 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 2: And done and done. Well. 87 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 4: No, no, no, I think you've been watching too many 88 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 4: cartoons or something. That's not the way it works in 89 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 4: the real world. Now, it would be an absolute horror, 90 00:04:54,120 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 4: upending the Western Alliance and the NATO alliance, pleasing Amir Putin, 91 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 4: I mean more than anything since he got CRIMEA. 92 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: It just be it would be horrible, just horrible. 93 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: Well, so if we're back to the idea of that, 94 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: the way that Trump handles things is he never takes 95 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: anything off the table and he presents the maximalist approach 96 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: so that you can ease back to the spot that 97 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: he actually wanted. 98 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: As a negotiation. Yeah, seems like if you were like. 99 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: Trying to buy a car from him, he would say, 100 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: I want four million dollars for. 101 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: It, and I won't take a sent less Okay, you're not. 102 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: You don't have a four million dollar car worth about 103 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 2: eighty grand. So what are we doing here? 104 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 4: It works as I said, I think it was yesterday. 105 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 4: It's long bothered me that Trump, I don't think, appreciates 106 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 4: the historic importance of the presidency. And he's not unique 107 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 4: necessarily in that regard. There have been and several who 108 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 4: have crapped on the presidency in recent years in various ways, 109 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 4: but that lay waste and leave bloody lips and resentment 110 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 4: and bitter tears on the trail to the negotiated settlement. 111 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 4: That works fine if you're building New Jersey casinos, but 112 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 4: it's not good when you have allies who are spending 113 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 4: blood to support you. Adjusted for inflation, Denmark lost the 114 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 4: equivalent of a couple of thousand guys fighting alongside us 115 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 4: in a rock and Afghanistan. 116 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a tie. That's not words on a treaty. 117 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 4: Oh, which reminds me by the way United States law 118 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 4: includes the NATO Charter and are signing on to it. 119 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 4: And also there was another one of significance. Oh well, 120 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 4: the UN Charter, both of which says you can't invade 121 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 4: another country, you can't take their land. And so that's 122 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 4: not international law, folks, that's United States law that Trump 123 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 4: would be a in violation of. 124 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 2: So he'd be impeached immediately. 125 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: Uh okay, Well, it's kind of a weird conversation to have. 126 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: So if we're presenting the idea that he doesn't mean 127 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: this in the first place, it's just the way he negotiates. 128 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: I don't know why everybody always goes through the this 129 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: is what would happen if he's serious. If we think 130 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: he's not serious, it's just he always goes with the 131 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: hardest ass position on everything, right, try to get off balance, Yeah, 132 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: to try to put people in a position where they'll, Okay, 133 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: you can have four bases and we'll pay for it, you. 134 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: Know, or whatever. As an off ramp. 135 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: Well, you know, America's hat has a you know, they're 136 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: they're like the population of California. So it's like talking 137 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: to the governor of California when you're talking to the 138 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: leader of Canada. 139 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: That's worth remembering. 140 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, if Trump's going to go around 141 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: saying these things, he can't all just pretend he's bluffing 142 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: all the time. You got to come up with some 143 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: sort of position. We got to take a break. We'll 144 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: be right back. So British journalist Piers Morgan yesterday offered 145 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: up a solution or a way to fight back against 146 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: Trump on this whole tariff Greenland thing, which we'll get 147 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: to it in a little bit because it's kind of hilarious. 148 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: But Trump is in the Switzerland. Took off this morning 149 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: in his plane. They had to turn around and come 150 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: back because they had electrical problems, but they got a 151 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: new plane. Tiny plane, took off, got there, he gave 152 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: a speech and He just said a little bit ago 153 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,359 Speaker 1: that the United States won't use force to take Greenland, 154 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: repeating that control of it. 155 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 2: Was necessary for national international security. 156 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: He said, quote, the United States would be appreciative if 157 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,359 Speaker 1: the world acquiesced to our desire to take over the territory, 158 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: or you can say no. 159 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: And we will remember. Okay, all right, so it's over. 160 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: I guess okay, crisis is over. Yeah, Oh my gosh. 161 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: So there'll be no draft. 162 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 4: Michael was worried about being drafted. Michael's not doing grishups 163 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 4: in the studio, jumping. Jack's getting ready in case he's called. Uh, 164 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 4: they'll be. 165 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: Drafting up to age fifty to bring men over to 166 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: fight in Greenland, great Scott. 167 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 4: So okay, all right, oh goodness sakes. So getting back 168 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 4: to the point I was making earlier, if I'm a 169 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 4: European leader and Trump is making noises like he's going 170 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 4: to attack a NATO ally, and as you were making 171 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 4: the point that you know, this is just his maximal list, 172 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 4: getting everybody on their heels, upsetting everybody, exhausting everybody, because 173 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 4: that's the way he likes to clear the field for 174 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 4: a negotiation. Even if you know that as a national 175 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 4: leader of it NATO country, having been threatened that your 176 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 4: biggest and most important is going to attack you. 177 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 2: What do you say, Why don't you do? 178 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: You just say that's the way he negotiates. It's fine 179 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: to your people because they're going crazy over there. Well, like, 180 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: so you know you and your wife are you don't 181 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: agree on where you should go for Thanksgiving this year? 182 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: Her parents or your parents? Damn? 183 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: And you have some and you start with I am 184 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: going to divorce you, and I'm going to spend every cent. 185 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: I've got to get full custody to kids if we 186 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: don't go to my parents' house for Thanksgiving. 187 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: If you then. 188 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: Walk that back to okay, we'll do your parents this year, 189 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: my parents next year. 190 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 2: You can't. I'm willing to compromise and talk about it. 191 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: Can't just ignore the thing you said earlier about that's 192 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: That's what I've been saying all along, and that Trump 193 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 1: doesn't care. 194 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 4: If he's negotiating the use of a ten acre parcel 195 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 4: in Jersey City who he wounds or pisses off or threatens, 196 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 4: you know, but it matters in alliances. It doesn't matter 197 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 4: quite as much as like the Barack Obamas and Joe 198 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:15,479 Speaker 4: Biden pretended it did because they let NATO become a flabby, useless, 199 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 4: you know, practically a parasite on the economy of the 200 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 4: United States. 201 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: So there's there's probably a middle ground somewhere. 202 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 4: Between making yourself a martyr and never standing up for 203 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 4: yourself and growing to hate your wife and her family, 204 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 4: or screeching that I'm gonna divorce you and steal the 205 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 4: kids and you'll never see them again, something in between. 206 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: Ish, it looks like it's over now and his whole Okay, 207 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: but if you don't give us Greenland, we'll remember this, Okay, 208 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: That's what I'd say. If I was all right, I 209 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: remember it, then trust me, we'll remember it too. Good Lord, 210 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: I thought this ended up kind of unintentionally funny. Piers 211 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: Morgan yesterday came up with this plan. He's a journalist 212 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: from Britain. Maybe so the World Cup soccer is in 213 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: the United States this time around North America. 214 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 2: Maybe countries maybe. 215 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: England, France, Spain, Germany, Portugal, Netherlands, Norway and Italy should 216 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: all pause participation in the World Cup while the various 217 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: tariff negotiations continue. With President Trump, eight of the ten 218 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: favored teams to win withdrawing might concentrate his mind. The 219 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: replies from like some big time Twitter people were all 220 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: pretty good, from you know interesting to funny cat Turd 221 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: and I hate that name, but he's a very famous 222 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: online presence with a million moniker and lose bet. Maybe 223 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: the USA should end all trade in relations with those 224 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: countries until they stop arresting people for free speech memes 225 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: and hurdy words. That's pretty cool, wow, said mister Turt. 226 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: But then lots and lots of I wish I could 227 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: use the real words because it'd be better. 228 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 2: Gives ans about soccer in the United States. I think 229 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: that's a threat. Oh no, oh no, the soccer teams 230 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 2: aren't gonna come. 231 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 6: What will we do. 232 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 4: I'm sure there's some economists out there who would say, well, 233 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 4: that's actually expected to bring one hundred and seventy five 234 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 4: million dollars worth of something or other. 235 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: I like this one. 236 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: The only thing worse that could happen to American men 237 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: is it appears more even threatened to cancel a season 238 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: of the WNBA. 239 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 4: Oh well, now it's personal. Although you know, getting back 240 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 4: to your your charming metaphor about marital life to respond 241 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 4: to the you know, I'm gonna divorce you and spend 242 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 4: all my money to get full custody. Oh really, well, 243 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 4: I'm gonna kill the kids so you never see them again. 244 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 2: Is probably not a good way to run a relationship. 245 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: No, and to cite a particularly horrific example, for which 246 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: I apologize, But those responses were really funny. But the 247 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: tendency of everybody to want oh yeah and stick your 248 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: chest out. 249 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 4: All right, these are our friends. Some of them are 250 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 4: kind of crappy friends who never bring anything to the party. 251 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 4: But we've been working with them on bringing a six 252 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 4: pack and maybe. 253 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: A bag of chips. Things are getting better. 254 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: Well, it looks like that little mini crisis in American 255 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: history is over. We're not going to war over Greenlynn. 256 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: Michael's not going to be drafted all as well. 257 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: Thank god, the penguins are safe. 258 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: The penguins are safe. We can move on to the 259 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: next crisis, which whatever that is. We do want to 260 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the Iran situation for real. 261 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get to that next hour with who was 262 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: it that wrote a piece for. 263 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: The Wall Street Journal? They're foreign minister or whatever. 264 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 4: Indeed, yeah, Ron's foreign minister. Plus are you into polymarket. 265 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 4: There are a couple of these websites like predict it 266 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 4: dot Org I was on for a while, where you 267 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 4: can make bets essentially on nonsportsy stuff like, uh, will 268 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 4: Trump survive? Not survived, but will he serve his entire term? 269 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 4: Will the Democrats win the House of Representatives? Blah blah blah. 270 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: Is it all politics? 271 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 4: Uh no, no, No, it can be other stuff too, 272 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 4: the stuff I'm familiar with his politics, but could be 273 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 4: insiders government insiders have figured out, Hey, I can make 274 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 4: a mint because I know what policy's gonna be. Just 275 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 4: like they bet the stock market, now they're betting polymarket, 276 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 4: Like can you insider trading? 277 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: Like can you bet on when Travis and Taylor get 278 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: married or whether they get a divorced or. 279 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 2: Stuff like that? Or yeah, oh you can. Yeah. 280 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 4: I haven't like scanned the entire thing, but yeah, it's 281 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 4: that sort of thing. Really, anything that's come to human 282 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 4: kinds attention. The reason this is getting so much attention 283 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 4: is that some mysterious human made a big, huge bet 284 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 4: in January, hours before US troops headed to Caracas, bet 285 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 4: that Maduro would be out of power before the end 286 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 4: of the month. The bet paid out four hundred thousand 287 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 4: dollars a twelve fold profit in a matter of hours. 288 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: And this is somebody who had inside information or gave 289 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: in got inside information from somebody had to be right. 290 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, one and then they quickly deleted their account. 291 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: Ah okay, well we know what's going on there. Well 292 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: that's the problem with the sports gambling. And now we're 293 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: going to gamble on everything. You know, Taylor Swift's gynecologist 294 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: is going to put a bet on when the baby's 295 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: coming and make a bunch of money and delete it, 296 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: delete the account. 297 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: Oh boy. 298 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 4: And what's being called cervix gate? Yes, cervix gate exactly. 299 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: Oh boy, the web. Yeah, these are odd times, no doubt. Ah, 300 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: lots of stuff on the way. 301 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: I do want to get to what Elon said yesterday 302 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: about where we are on AI. At some point we 303 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: do need to talk about that. If he's right, things 304 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: are going to get really exciting this year. And Democrats 305 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: are still trying to figure out what a woman is 306 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: an update on that topic, stay with us. 307 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 2: Armstrong and getty. JB. 308 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 7: Pritzker refused to answer if a man could become a woman. 309 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: In his defense, it's hard to be an expert at 310 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: Genitalia when you can't see your own right. 311 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: Oh, that's a fat joke. 312 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 4: Yay, set a guy's two fantasy is on penis joke, 313 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 4: brothers got a weight problem. It's no reason to kick him. 314 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 2: Huh. 315 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 4: It's a good point. Yeah, Michael lad was a bad joke. 316 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 4: You shouldn't even pull that one and offered it to us. 317 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 4: So I think that's a comment. On the fact that 318 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 4: Axios recently asked the Democratic politicians the twenty of them 319 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 4: most likely to run for president in twenty twenty eight 320 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 4: a few basic questions about so called transgender issues, including 321 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 4: ken A Mann become a woman. Nearly all of them 322 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 4: declined to comment or failed to respond. Josh Shapiro, Pete 323 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 4: Buddhaj ed Drama Manual. They were the only ones who 324 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 4: bothered to respond. Former VIEP Kamala Harris, good lord her 325 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 4: running for president again? Please God, Please? Yes, you have 326 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 4: Ram's answer. Yeah, actually I do. I'm just gonna run 327 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 4: through the names real quick. AOC JB. Pritzker, he of 328 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 4: the the Invisible Privates, and Gov. Gav of California were 329 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 4: among the Democrats who declined away. In Shapiro and Buddhaj 330 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 4: Edge Edge Edge referred to their vague remarks in prior 331 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 4: interviews about how local officials and experts should make decisions 332 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 4: about transgender participation in sports, and both have also kind 333 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 4: of hinted that male athletes might have an unfair advantage. 334 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 2: Can a man become a woman? 335 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 4: Only one Democratic candidate answered no, and that's Ram Emmanuel. 336 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 2: There you go. 337 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: No, he's he's gonna try it. He's gonna see if 338 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: you can get the nomination the Democratic Party running against Woke. 339 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: He's going to try it. Yeah. Yeah. 340 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 4: The Axios report and Michael, I meant to remind you 341 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 4: that that gave new SOMEO clip that I asked for earlier. 342 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: Do you have that handy? Is that a yes or no? Yeah? Okay, 343 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: great Ah. 344 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 4: This came comes only days after Gavin new some dodge 345 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 4: Ben Shapiro's question about whether boys can become girls on 346 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 4: the Governor's Own podcast. 347 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 7: Good people disagree on this, I know, but in a 348 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 7: lot of states, not just California, well established rules by 349 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 7: the way that predate me. 350 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 2: Again, this is not where. 351 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 7: I started campaigning and advocating on these issues, as some suggest. 352 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 7: And and look, I'm with the governor. Governor Spencer Cox, 353 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 7: who said about many of these issues, never so much 354 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 7: attention been placed on so few people. 355 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 6: And the problem is, I do think that on the 356 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 6: electoral level, to go to the politics, it is a 357 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 6: barrier to entry for a lot of people. I agree 358 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 6: with that, I agree with why can become a girl? 359 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 6: And then just I do agree realistic. 360 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 7: And by the way, and I respect if that's your 361 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 7: barrier to then listening to people on myriad of other issues, 362 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 7: so be it. 363 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: That is what it is. I just find it. I 364 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 2: find it strange that we got to jump in here. 365 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 4: I thought we were going to use the fairly short 366 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 4: clip where he answers with a twelve grunt pile of gibberish? 367 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 2: Do we not have that? But so does he ever 368 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 2: answer the question. 369 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 6: The fundamental question that lies at the root of all 370 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 6: of this is the question that you're not wanting to answer, 371 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 6: which is whether boys can become girls? 372 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? I just don't why. I think for the grace 373 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 2: of God. Yeah, I mean I appreciate the sympathy I 374 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 2: always what. Yeah, I just don't why I think for 375 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 2: the grace of God. Well, then Shapiro let him get 376 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 2: away with that. 377 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 7: Now. 378 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 4: He followed up series of noises. I don't actually know 379 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 4: how it ended up, but Ben followed up and so 380 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 4: just as notable as the silence from the prospective Democrats. 381 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 4: It's pointed out in The Free Beacon is the outrage 382 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 4: directed at Axios for daring to ask these quest questions. 383 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 4: You and Axios are a national embarrassment, wrote one guy 384 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 4: who writes for The Athletic. Former Obama tech guru James 385 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 4: Villa Reubi said this is Axios crapping on Dems and 386 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 4: platforming a GOP issue, but calling it journalism because they're 387 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 4: vetting candidates. Axios is such used as the S word 388 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 4: these days. Liberal podcaster Tim Miller, especially grief quote can 389 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 4: a man become a woman? Is such a rage bait 390 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 4: bull ask question has no bearing on policy, blah blah blah. 391 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: Well, here's where it does have bearing on policy, because 392 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: while it is true that never has so much you know, 393 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: ink been spilled over so few people. If as Gavin said, 394 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: and it's absolutely true, it's a barrier to entry for 395 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: very many people on all your other issues. 396 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 2: I need to know this right off the bat. Can 397 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: a man become a woman? 398 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: And if you say no, then I have no interest 399 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: in what you have to say about anything else. You 400 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: can't be in the Democratic Party right in a lot 401 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: of situations unless you say yes to that. 402 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 2: And that's weird. 403 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 4: To his credit, and I'm surprised, Chris Solissa said of 404 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 4: the Axios questions and the non answers pathetic. Take a 405 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 4: position and just defend it exactly. Yeah, and at least 406 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 4: one Democratic strategist, Liam Kerr, agreed, told the Axios the 407 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 4: candidate should have a clear answer, whatever it is. 408 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree completely. 409 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: Well, I think I also think Ram Emmanuel believes is 410 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: I believe that they're all wrong. You can say no 411 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: and you're gonna be fine. 412 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: Well that's true too, because the vast majority of people, 413 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 2: even in the Democratic Party are on your side. Yeah. 414 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, and and the thing that you know, nobody, 415 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 4: nobody understands. 416 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody cares about it. 417 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 4: The reason that it matters, even though it's a relatively 418 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 4: small number of people. As the one person pointed, Gavin 419 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 4: I gets pointed out, and that rambling pseudo. 420 00:22:54,480 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 7: Answer, Yeah, yeah, just so. Well, I think, for the 421 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 7: grace of God. 422 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: You should have your son the same way. 423 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 4: But that thing about never before have so few people 424 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 4: blah blah blah. It is a specific strategy of these 425 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 4: people of the critical theory crowd to erase all binaries 426 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 4: and to get you to say that which you know 427 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 4: to be false, because once they get you to abandon 428 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 4: your sense of the truth, they have you. The transgender 429 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 4: thing is part of a much bigger strategy. And again 430 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 4: some of you are like, what is Joe talking about. 431 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 4: They wrote books, their names are on the spine, they're 432 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 4: proud of them. They explain exactly what they wanted to 433 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 4: do and how they're going to do it, and this 434 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 4: is part of it. 435 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 2: Anyway. 436 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 4: Having said that, I came across a really interesting article 437 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 4: it's kind of on this topic by Quinn Q and 438 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 4: I almost didn't read it. It was entitled Progressive as 439 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 4: must Apologize before It's too late, which is kind of 440 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 4: an odd title because his his point is a lot 441 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 4: more specific and kind of nuanced than that. And then 442 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 4: he kicks Ezra Clent for a while, which I really appreciated. 443 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: If you don't know who he is, don't worry. He's 444 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: unimportant to your life. 445 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 4: He's a progressive who tries to masquerade as a moderate. 446 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 4: But when when he writes when topics like trans immigration, 447 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 4: so on, actually come up. Ezra, like a lot of folks, 448 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 4: still thinks that most Americans are quote fundamentally and morally wrong, 449 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 4: which means is pivot toward what he portrays his reasonablenesses 450 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 4: bull ass. No wonder he never apologized. He isn't sorry. 451 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 4: In his mind is as closed as ever. The same 452 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 4: dynamic plays out everywhere. Progressives claim to have moderated on crime, 453 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 4: on education, on speech. They adjust their language just enough 454 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 4: to avoid total campaign disasters and pr implosions, but they 455 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 4: never question the core conviction that animates everything they do. 456 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: Quote. 457 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 4: Here's their core conviction. We are the moral vanguard, and 458 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 4: opposition to our program stems from bigotry, ignorance, or malice. 459 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 4: I think that shoe fits pretty well. You picture any topic, 460 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 4: any scenario where you're standing up to progressives where they 461 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 4: don't portray you as a bigot, an ignoramus, or just 462 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 4: cruel mean, And he says, until progressives actually abandoned this worldview, 463 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 4: until I apologize for their excesses, reform their institutions, and 464 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 4: build relationships with the moderate majority, the reactionary tide will 465 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 4: continue rising, the far right will keep winning, and progressives 466 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 4: will have no one to blame but themselves. The time 467 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 4: for reckoning is now before it's too late. You know, 468 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 4: I think he's right. I heard a great thinker. I 469 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 4: can't remember his name, Look it up and share it 470 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 4: with you, because I think he's super smart. 471 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 2: But he was talking about how. 472 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 4: Our politics, like on the surface that we can all 473 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 4: see and hear and raise money on and all, are 474 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 4: so different from how most Americans actually see the world, 475 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 4: which is overwhelmingly fairly moderate and pragmatic. Americans are an 476 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 4: incredibly pragmatic people, and most of our politics is super 477 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 4: idealized on one side or the other, and it's weird. 478 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 4: And he and this quinn q I'm quoting now both 479 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 4: believe that if somebody, you know, an honest, moderate lefty 480 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 4: were to say, look, you want to present as a woman, 481 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 4: that's fine. Nobody gets to hurt you, nobody gets to 482 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 4: fire you, or whatever. 483 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 2: We can talk about all that stuff. That's fine. But 484 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 2: you can't be dominating women's sports. 485 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 4: That's just wrong that most Americans would say, hallelujah, who 486 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 4: is this guy? 487 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 2: I'm voting for him? You know that guy is rom Emmanuel. 488 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 2: Who that guy is? He's sure as hell trying to 489 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 2: be yep. 490 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: So Southwest has been teasing their big change to the 491 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: seeding policy. 492 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: For a one a while. 493 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: It's happening next week, so he can bring you up 494 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: to speed on that. Right after we tell you about 495 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: prize Picks. It's a good time to get in on 496 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: the action. There's all kinds of football happening. Also in 497 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: the middle of a basketball season. Does the Olympics play 498 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: come into play any of this? 499 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 2: I don't even know. I have no idea. The Large Game, 500 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: the largest. 501 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 4: Game, the game that is superb to me, is coming up. 502 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 4: And there's no better way to cash in during America's 503 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 4: biggest sporting event than Prize Picks, where always feels good 504 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 4: to be right. And since the big Game is right 505 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 4: around the corner, that also means you shot your last 506 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 4: chance to get into football action before next season, so 507 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 4: close the season out right. 508 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 2: With prize Picks. 509 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 4: You get fifty dollars instantly to play in lineups for fun. 510 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 4: When you play just a five dollars lineup, that's right, 511 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 4: you play five, they give you fifty. 512 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 2: All every year. 513 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: I find it amusing that the most watched TV show 514 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: in the world you can't by law mention. 515 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 2: It's just hilarious. 516 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: But yeah, with prize picks you can get involved. You know, 517 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: I might put my money where my mouth is on 518 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: that whole quarterback for the Patriots, on this whole thing. 519 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: Download the Price Picks app today. Yep, use the coat Armstrong. 520 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 4: You get fifty dollars lineups after you play first top 521 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 4: five to five dollars lineup Prize picks. 522 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: It's good to be right. So what's the theory on 523 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: protecting that word? They think that super Bowl you can't 524 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: use it for commercial purposes, just like you couldn't use 525 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: Armstrong you getty for commercial purposes without our permission. 526 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 2: Right, But when. 527 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: Something gets that big, does it really does it help 528 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: you or hurt you? 529 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: Well? 530 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: Like for I don't know, I would love it if 531 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: people mentioned our name and every commercial for free, go 532 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: ahead mention my name. I see your point as often 533 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: as you can. 534 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think it's yeah because if they permitted it, well, 535 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 4: there are two problems. Number One, if they permitted it, 536 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 4: it would go crazy, absolutely crazy. You'd have every single 537 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 4: brand in America claiming to be the official super Bowl 538 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 4: this or that or getting in on the action. Second, 539 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 4: copyright law, and this is a conversation we've had a 540 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 4: few times, but it's worth repeating for people so they 541 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 4: understand why McDonald's shuts down McDonald's hot Dogs and Burgers 542 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 4: in New Mexico, run by some guy named Angus McDonald, 543 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 4: poor pastard. 544 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: He's just trying to make an honest living. 545 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 4: It's because in copyright law, in similar law, patent law, 546 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 4: you need to consistently defend the copyright for courts to say, yeah, 547 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 4: that's their copyright, and they care about it and they 548 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,239 Speaker 4: defend it. That's too bad because and you slack, you 549 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 4: don't get to change your mind and enforce it. Angus 550 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 4: boils up a good dog. Oh oh super, he'll do 551 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 4: your Chicago dog. You'll do you a cheese dog, a 552 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 4: chili dog. Terrific. And he has burgers. But he can't 553 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 4: call his food cart McDonald's. 554 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 2: He just can't. Nope, Sorry, Angus. So this tease has 555 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 2: been coming for a long time. 556 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: I'm not happy about it, but it's coming next weekend 557 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: the twenty seventh. Flights departing Honor after the twenty seventh 558 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: will now have seat assignments for Southwest. 559 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: The end of the whole. 560 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: Get in line and get your seat early. And you 561 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: get a good seat thing, which I. 562 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 2: Think most people liked. Is there anybody that didn't like that? 563 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 2: I hated it. You didn't like it? No, I'll come. 564 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 4: I thought it was stupid because it introduced Yeah, just 565 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 4: a level of trouble and stress and everything else and 566 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 4: just no. 567 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 2: Just tell me what seat to go time. It is interesting. 568 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: I've never found it troubling or stressful, and I, you know, 569 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: always had a great seat easily, so I loved it. 570 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: Just you didn't like having to check in on time 571 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: to get the. 572 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 4: Good, the good, the good seat, Well, yeah then you would, 573 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 4: and then you'd be B forty three anyway, because there 574 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 4: were a bunch of people with their privileged status or whatever, 575 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 4: and then the whole people faking that they were crippled 576 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 4: to get on the flight, and Jesus cured them in 577 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 4: mid flight and they danced off the plane and just 578 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 4: and people in the wrong spot in line, and just 579 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 4: having this so pleased. 580 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 2: That the resting. No, it's stupid. 581 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: It's interesting that that's your experience, because my experience has 582 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: been the exact opposite. 583 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 2: It is better than all the other headlines. 584 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: I always had a better seat, and I found it 585 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: incredibly why they're changing it. 586 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: But most people must not have liked it because they 587 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 2: are changing it. Ye huh. I know. 588 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: I've just seen Tim Sander for our friend, complaining about 589 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: the change too, because he liked it. 590 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 591 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 4: Indeed, to each their own. I think that's a beautiful 592 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 4: example of how we can all get along. 593 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 2: Right. 594 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 4: By the way, I'm stupid, completely stupid, well, and I'm 595 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 4: just a little overwhelmed with all the stuff I've had. 596 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 4: I left out the best part of that column that 597 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 4: I quoted, the best part the blockbuster, the payoff, the 598 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 4: guitar solo in Stairway to Heaven. I left it off. Well, 599 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 4: here's a good thing. 600 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: We got a few more minutes left this hour and 601 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: a bunch of other hours to talk, so stay tuned. 602 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 2: It's amazing. 603 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: Every news publication that has a headline has the headline 604 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: Trump backs off military threat to take Greenland. The fact 605 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: that that was on the table is amazing. But it's 606 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: off the table now Trump has said no. We can 607 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: bring you the highlights on that coming up in our three. Also, 608 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: that was on the table in the same way that 609 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: like of dishous sheep eyeballs on the table would be 610 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: on the table nobody's gonna eat them. 611 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 2: Oh so cross. 612 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 4: We had that once when we were in Africa. I know, 613 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 4: well it was put before us. I didn't need any. 614 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 2: I didn't need any either. It was looking at me. 615 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: Scott Besson has taken on Gavin Newsom in hilarious fashion 616 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: over at Davos and we've got that for you an 617 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: hour three. And also Lebron James stayed one year too long, 618 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: clearly with the lakersof Now the owner's going after him. 619 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 2: But so more on that coming up. 620 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 4: So I was quoting a piece by Quinn Q in 621 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 4: which he was suggesting that progressives really need to apologize 622 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 4: in the backtrack, because even when they seem to moderate, 623 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 4: they still have that attitude we are the moral vanguard 624 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 4: in opposition or program stems from bigotry, ignorance, or malice. 625 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 4: And he cites a couple of center lefty types like 626 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 4: Sam Harris Andrew Sullivan, who understand what most progressive critics miss. 627 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 4: The problem isn't just that progressives get specific policies wrong. 628 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 4: It's that they've constructed an entire worldview in which very 629 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 4: basic things most humans take for granted are deemed fundamentally 630 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:28,719 Speaker 4: and morally wrong. For instance, that foreigners are not citizens 631 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 4: and citizens' interests come first. That children are not adults 632 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 4: capable of consenting to irreversible medical procedures. These are bedrock 633 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 4: indisputable facts. But he's quite right that progressives deny them. 634 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 4: That rapid demographic transfermation of neighborhoods affects quality of life. 635 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, one of your favorites. That's because they live in 636 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: neighborhoods where it's not being affected. 637 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 2: Ah, they protected and unprotected class. 638 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 4: Back to that, Yeah, borders serve legitimate functions. How about 639 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 4: that merit matters. Yeah, they systematically deny that. I run 640 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 4: into that one a lot in what sense. It's clear 641 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 4: from the way people talk they don't think marriage matters. 642 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 2: It just oh it's merit. 643 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 4: Oh okay, okay, Yeah, although marriage too, but I run 644 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 4: into merit too. 645 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. 646 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 4: That parents have primary authority over their children's education and upbringing. 647 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is indisputable. And that the wrongness of racism and. 648 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 4: Sexism leaves no space for social justice carve outs. Racism 649 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 4: against Asians or Europeans and Jews is still racism, Sexism 650 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 4: against men is still sexism. 651 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 2: And so forth. 652 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: And these are not fringe positions held by trumpy weirdos 653 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 1: their baseline assumptions held by the overwhelming majorities across every 654 00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: Western liberal democracy and progressives have spent fifteen years treating 655 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: people who hold these views as moral monsters. Well, I 656 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 1: wish we could have a presidential debate where all those 657 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: topics were put before the candidates, where they come down 658 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: on this. Does a foreigner have the same rights as 659 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: a citizen? 660 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? 661 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 4: Are children capable of consenting to irreversible medical procedures or 662 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 4: they think child's judgment and life experience or anything? 663 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? 664 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 4: Does it affect a person's neighborhood if the demographics change 665 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 4: quickly and completely? 666 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: No? 667 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 2: Well, then why do you object to gentrification for instance? 668 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 2: Would be my follow up? 669 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: Ah well, oh, well, that's the privilege, a white privilege, 670 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: the patriarchy, something something critical theory. So if it goes 671 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: the other direction, good, If it gets more expensive and nicer, bad. 672 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's funny. 673 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 4: They've spent fifteen years lecturing us that our bedrock beliefs 674 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 4: are sick and wrong. 675 00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 2: They're not sick, They're not wrong. 676 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,879 Speaker 1: Michael's so happy he's not going to be drafted into 677 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: the war against Greenland it's not gonna happen. 678 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty