Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two eighty one,
Speaker 1: Episode three of The Daily Zeitgeist. This yeah, it's still
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Speaker 1: He's spring Break. Shout out to Locarni on the discord
Speaker 1: for that Max Romeo Chase the Devil aka love that
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Speaker 1: and I am thrilled to be joined by my guest
Speaker 1: co host, a fantastic comedian, writer, producer, just a boxer.
Speaker 1: Even you do not want you do not want to
Speaker 1: catch these hands. I'm serious. This man is actually in
Speaker 1: the gym boxing. He doesn't really talk about it a lot,
Speaker 1: but I've seen the hand speed and it will make
Speaker 1: your head spin. Lee is welcome to the microphone my
Speaker 1: guest host, mister Andrew T. Where's Jack Jackson the Noe
Speaker 1: Work Groove. I'm not Jack, but I got to give
Speaker 1: you your news. Oh that's as far as I got.
Speaker 1: I like, how before You're like, hey, I got an
Speaker 1: AKA about Jack being gone. I just want to make
Speaker 1: sure it's not for anything, anything bad or and I
Speaker 1: was like, no, no, no, he's he's loving spring break
Speaker 1: right now with his family. So I was just like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm here. I just wanted a triple check. No,
Speaker 1: I think it's good form because it would have been
Speaker 1: wild if you did that, And I would have been
Speaker 1: like afterwards, like yo a and we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: cut that Akut's wildly insensitive. But you know, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: good I'm alive, you know, just gearing up for the
Speaker 1: writers to go on strike. So yeah, that's fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and my dog has a butt infection, so she's she's
Speaker 1: on a cone and antibiotics. But is it too, is
Speaker 1: it receiving the booty infection or is it I think
Speaker 1: it's I think it's gone. But I'm just I'm keeping
Speaker 1: the cone on until the bed gives you all clear.
Speaker 1: I thought of you last week. My friend, who was
Speaker 1: a fantastic chef, made a pecanya, but he smoked it
Speaker 1: first and then he reverse seared it, and I was like, oh.
Speaker 1: Then at first I was like, yeah, man, I'm boy,
Speaker 1: Andrew you cooking these all the time. So I started
Speaker 1: cutting back a little bit. I made some sukiyaki last
Speaker 1: night for the first time. Yeah, I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: I'm cutting back on beef, but mostly just to add
Speaker 1: a lot of cabbage and mirror into them. Yeah. Yeah, fine,
Speaker 1: Well it's it's all incremental, you know. I'm I'm doing
Speaker 1: me free stuff every now and then too, as we should.
Speaker 1: But let's not delay things any further. We have a
Speaker 1: fantastic guest with us today because you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: we're I feel like we have a steady stream of
Speaker 1: really really great people that have come to grace this
Speaker 1: second rate podcast with their genius. Our guest is an author,
Speaker 1: freelance writer, speaker, and the host of the podcast The
Speaker 1: only One in the Room, which, if you heard it,
Speaker 1: sometimes we we know that feeling for sure, for sure,
Speaker 1: and also the author of the new book Stash My
Speaker 1: Life in Hiding. Please welcome to the proverbial stage. I
Speaker 1: guess I will say, Laura Cavcar Robber, Yay, thank you, Laura.
Speaker 1: I'm cheering from myself. Thank you very much. Good to
Speaker 1: have you, Good to have you. Yeah. Were you coming
Speaker 1: to us from? I feel like from reading a little
Speaker 1: bit about you, you're in the valley. I am in Studios,
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Yes, my hometown, you know, girl, right there? Yeah,
Speaker 1: North Hollywood, baby, you know what I mean. I was
Speaker 1: mocking hung the village as a youth. That's it. That's
Speaker 1: where I am right there. Back when artisan or not?
Speaker 1: What was the there was? There used to be wine shop, No,
Speaker 1: the wine the wine store that closed down and then
Speaker 1: became a clothing store. Yes, I don't have the sandwiches.
Speaker 1: They have sandwiches. I should be called the drip. No,
Speaker 1: I should be called what's a wine store and a
Speaker 1: clothing store? Oh yeah store and a clothing store? Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah there we go even be even better.
Speaker 1: See thank you for punching up, Andrew. We gotta figure it.
Speaker 1: I will figure it. I will get there. See. Man,
Speaker 1: this is why the writer's going on strike. Man, this
Speaker 1: is what you're losing studios, Hey, us what we're worth?
Speaker 1: Oh so yeah, Laura, how you like in uh rainy La?
Speaker 1: We had a little bit of a break. I just
Speaker 1: like to tell people when we're in La because we
Speaker 1: had the streak of storms and the last four days
Speaker 1: we've had sun, but it's going right back to rain.
Speaker 1: Have you shift into becoming Seattle or no? You know,
Speaker 1: I I appreciate the rain because I understand how badly
Speaker 1: it's needed. Right Um. I worry about the driving in
Speaker 1: the rain. Not necessarily mine, but other people. It's like
Speaker 1: people in La drive like they're crazy when they drive
Speaker 1: in the rain. Yeah, we just it's it's a it's
Speaker 1: a mixture of confidence in ineptitude that turns into the
Speaker 1: worst and arrogance. I think, yeah, yeah, I can just
Speaker 1: speed by you and I don't care if there's a
Speaker 1: pothole or I spray you or whatever, or my tires
Speaker 1: have no tread on them anymore, not just hyder play
Speaker 1: across the plain. Okay, well you did that. It's like
Speaker 1: LA's general personality flaw made much worse. Yeah, exactly, exactly, exactly. Well, Laura,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to know you even better. Be First,
Speaker 1: we're gonna tell everybody the stories we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: for just to all woke. Everything lends that the GOP
Speaker 1: looks at things through. It's just it's like I get before,
Speaker 1: it's the point the culture wars and the cruelty is
Speaker 1: the point of how they feel that they're in power.
Speaker 1: But like it's to the point where like they're ignoring
Speaker 1: polling too, and you're like, who's this four? Are you
Speaker 1: guys stuck in this like feedback loop that you can't
Speaker 1: get out of. So we'll talk a little bit about
Speaker 1: that and how they've even pivoted to being even more heinous,
Speaker 1: especially around the shooting in Tennessee. Then we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about how folks, I know you've been waiting for it.
Speaker 1: You always wanted to know what Woolly Mammoth's meat tasted like,
Speaker 1: if you like me. Well, guess what These two blokes
Speaker 1: in Australia, some company called val have brought woolly mammoth
Speaker 1: meat balls to the stage, and we'll talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about how they did that, why they're doing it,
Speaker 1: you know, for good reason because obviously climate change. And
Speaker 1: then we're gonna catch up with Stormy Daniels, who I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously he's back in the news with all the hush
Speaker 1: money payment stuff, but I didn't realize in between, like
Speaker 1: I knew she was doing stand but she has a
Speaker 1: lot of other ventures going on, so we will touch
Speaker 1: on those, including ghostbusting, so you know, shout out to
Speaker 1: the ghostbusters, all all of them out there. But first,
Speaker 1: Laura Cakart Robbins, we got to ask you, our guest,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history that's revealing a
Speaker 1: little something about who you are, what you're thinking about.
Speaker 1: I think the thing that's probably most revealing about my
Speaker 1: search history is that it's all one thing right now.
Speaker 1: It's dashed my life in hiding on Amazon daily, minute
Speaker 1: by minute, refreshed to see what my standings are. I
Speaker 1: feel like I've not written a book, but I know
Speaker 1: a couple of people that have, and I feel like
Speaker 1: that is the only thing you can do when you
Speaker 1: put out a book, because you're like plead like, where
Speaker 1: where are we at? Where are we at? Please tell
Speaker 1: me where are we at? Did this move the needle?
Speaker 1: Did that move the needle? Yeah? It's like I tell myself,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do it. It's very much like
Speaker 1: my addiction, which I wrote about, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: do it. I'm not going to do it. And then
Speaker 1: I looked back at my history and I'm like, all day,
Speaker 1: all day, that's all I did look for my book.
Speaker 1: But it's good. You're like a day trader, but for
Speaker 1: your own words, right, yeah, yes, thank you. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: not undercutting the little guy. You're like go mee yes,
Speaker 1: please please. Uh So, I mean I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I've only read like some of the reviews and sort
Speaker 1: of the top line stuff about it, but I think
Speaker 1: it's you know, you're the talks about just sort of
Speaker 1: your again, you your journey with addiction and sobriety and
Speaker 1: just like the intersection of privilege and race and all
Speaker 1: of these things. When I when I just was like
Speaker 1: reading a little bit about it, I was like, this
Speaker 1: sounds really fascinating. I mean, can you tell us a
Speaker 1: little bit about kind of you know, where where you
Speaker 1: started and where you're at. Yeah, I mean, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you for that. The stash My Life in Hiding
Speaker 1: covers a ten month period in the year two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight. And I think the thing that it's an
Speaker 1: addiction memoir, but it's also about divorce, it's also about motherhood.
Speaker 1: It's also um about falling in love, which comes a
Speaker 1: little bit towards the end. And I think the thing
Speaker 1: that makes it unique is the thing you just touched on,
Speaker 1: is that it comes from that intersection of race, because
Speaker 1: it's a story written by me, a black woman, about
Speaker 1: an addiction that doesn't involve drug ins and prostitution and
Speaker 1: you know, childhood sexual trauma, and it comes from this
Speaker 1: place of privilege. And it's also you know, it's an
Speaker 1: addiction story race. And what's the other one, addiction, race
Speaker 1: and privilege. Yeah, So those three things, And what I
Speaker 1: found was there are lots of stories that are addiction memoirs.
Speaker 1: There are lots of mostly written by white women. The
Speaker 1: ones that are written by black women usually involve those
Speaker 1: three things I listed, And like, I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: my story is any better than anybody else's by far.
Speaker 1: Those stories are thrilling and I loved reading them, but
Speaker 1: I didn't identify with them, so I think I don't think.
Speaker 1: I know, there were no comparisons for my book when
Speaker 1: I wrote it. There's nothing out there like it, so
Speaker 1: that's what makes it unique. Yeah, I mean it was
Speaker 1: striking just from like this of synopsis of you. You
Speaker 1: know that you were elaborately scheduling withdrawals between PTA meetings
Speaker 1: and things like that, or hiding pills in your red bottoms. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was just like, this is fascinating. And yet to
Speaker 1: your point, I feel like we're I guess like the
Speaker 1: stories we hear a lot are not necessarily looking at
Speaker 1: it from your perspective. Not to say that's a bad thing,
Speaker 1: but yeah, to your point that you felt that your
Speaker 1: story had a place to be heard, and I think
Speaker 1: it's fantastic. Yeah, thank you. It's so nice that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's like diversity in every type of story and we're
Speaker 1: like starting to finally get to hear things like that.
Speaker 1: That's so great. Yeah, was there everything like with publishers
Speaker 1: who are kind of like, do you have something that's
Speaker 1: more in line with like stereotypes about black women that
Speaker 1: we know about, like because I know, like with entertainment,
Speaker 1: like to your point, Andrew, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like you try and represent your culture in a diverse way,
Speaker 1: and then some people who are gatekeeping who don't understand that,
Speaker 1: like can we just regress to the old thing? But
Speaker 1: was it was it easy or what was that sort
Speaker 1: of path? Like, you know, to my advantage, I pitched
Speaker 1: this during the summer of twenty twenty and we were
Speaker 1: having a moment. Yeah, and publishing it was like the
Speaker 1: first time in my memory that all black authors were
Speaker 1: in the top ten of the best selling list. Because
Speaker 1: everybody was trying to educate themselves about being an anti racist, etc. Etc.
Speaker 1: And learn as much as they could about black culture.
Speaker 1: So publishers were hungry for stories by black people period.
Speaker 1: I think they did get excited about mine because it
Speaker 1: was unique and they felt like they might be able
Speaker 1: to pull in a different audience than they had with
Speaker 1: other previous black addiction memoirs. Right right, that's fantastic. Let's
Speaker 1: move on to our next question. What is something you
Speaker 1: think is overrated? College degrees? Okay, go on, So I
Speaker 1: didn't graduate from high school, I didn't go to college.
Speaker 1: And I'm not bragging about that, but you know, I
Speaker 1: had well and I wrote about this in my book.
Speaker 1: I lied about it all the time in order to
Speaker 1: get jobs, I said, I was George Santos basically like
Speaker 1: I said, I padded my resume because I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: gotten the job without it. But I was without that
Speaker 1: on paper qualification, I was still qualified to do the job.
Speaker 1: I had the experience, I understood how to do it.
Speaker 1: I'm a quick learner, like I educated myself about the
Speaker 1: position before I got it and then went all in
Speaker 1: and I did really well. So I don't think I
Speaker 1: needed that piece of paper in order to do the job.
Speaker 1: But there's there's this consensus that we do need that,
Speaker 1: And a lot of people in my family, they're successful,
Speaker 1: don't have college degrees. And I'm not discouraging anyone from
Speaker 1: getting it, but I do think they're overrated. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: I think there's just like this disconnect to where there's
Speaker 1: this emphasis about having it, yet it's so hard to
Speaker 1: attain or in a way that doesn't potentially fuck you
Speaker 1: up for decades to Yeah, yeah, I get that. It's
Speaker 1: like that so many people now, Like I was just
Speaker 1: talking to somebody I was watching like the Final four tournament,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I was like, I almost went
Speaker 1: to the like almost went to University of Miami because
Speaker 1: like I got in in my mind, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a fucking party in Miami for college. Then I
Speaker 1: saw what it costs, and I'm gonna keep my ass
Speaker 1: in the fucking state because I do. I absolutely couldn't,
Speaker 1: especially when I saw my other friends taking on loans
Speaker 1: and like what the payback sort of structure looked like.
Speaker 1: I was frightened to the point where I was almost like,
Speaker 1: I know, I want to get into comedy and shit,
Speaker 1: but yeah, like my grandparents and my parents' voice rang
Speaker 1: in my head. They're like, look, if you could go
Speaker 1: for it, and if you fuck up, at least you
Speaker 1: could teach history because you have that degree. And I'm
Speaker 1: like that was and I would do that if things
Speaker 1: shook out a different way. So I kind of I
Speaker 1: see that. Yeah, it's so because it's like nominally it's
Speaker 1: supposed to be like proof that you did something or
Speaker 1: you accomplish something or at a level, but like, because
Speaker 1: of the way the world works, there's so much variance
Speaker 1: and what that fucking piece of paper me Like I
Speaker 1: feel like like I did, unfortunately go to like a
Speaker 1: nice college, and like, truly, the only thing I learned
Speaker 1: from that college that I find was valuable was that um,
Speaker 1: rich kids are not only not better than you, they
Speaker 1: are actively worse than you. They are the tombst people
Speaker 1: on earth. And we all have the same piece of
Speaker 1: paper at the end of the day. You know, It's hilarious.
Speaker 1: I just like to like, I always think about when
Speaker 1: you know, you have a resume or whatever and they
Speaker 1: ask for like your education, You're like, how many times
Speaker 1: has anyone ever actually bothered to check up on that
Speaker 1: unless like you came in and they like you were
Speaker 1: so flagrant with it. They're like, there's no way this
Speaker 1: person has like a master's from whatever. But right to
Speaker 1: your point, I'm like, yeah, just fake it till you
Speaker 1: make it. You know, I even know where my diploma is.
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't even say, Yeah I didn't go, I
Speaker 1: didn't even walk. Yeah you didn't. Now I was so old, man.
Speaker 1: I Look, I was so over aademia because part to
Speaker 1: me was like, well, like I was already becoming like
Speaker 1: this cynical person about like what a degree meant. And
Speaker 1: I'm like but and then I had like survivors get
Speaker 1: I'm like, how come I can get a degree? But
Speaker 1: these are the kids you're gonna degree and they got
Speaker 1: to do this, and then they go up in the
Speaker 1: draw like and then we're all going up in the
Speaker 1: same job interview where you like, you need seventeen years
Speaker 1: of experience for this job and you're like, I'm seventeen though, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's just like y. So anyway, all
Speaker 1: that to say is when my it was it's UCLA.
Speaker 1: So it was hot in La in the summer, like beginning,
Speaker 1: and it was all going to be outdoors, and I
Speaker 1: asked my parents, so I was like, you want to
Speaker 1: wait out there, like to be called amongst hundreds of names,
Speaker 1: And they're like, if you don't care, we don't care.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't care, man, if you want to,
Speaker 1: we can the diploma, but that's more money and I
Speaker 1: would rather just stop giving this UC system money so
Speaker 1: I can watch. Yeah, that way I could walk head
Speaker 1: first in two thousand and seven into a recession with
Speaker 1: my degree, and hey, I got this degree to enter
Speaker 1: the middle, But what the fuck is happening? Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: very I talk about this a lot with other millennials
Speaker 1: about how like especially like there's so many people who
Speaker 1: get so down, like because everything is so difficult to
Speaker 1: attain right now for younger people, and we're fed this
Speaker 1: thing of like, well you should be doing this by
Speaker 1: now without understanding like how uniquely of a shitty situation
Speaker 1: we came of aging where it was almost like oh yeah,
Speaker 1: like I was standing on the rug as it was
Speaker 1: getting yanked out. What something you think is underrated? Laura, Well,
Speaker 1: this kind of relates to the wooly mammoth meatballs. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I'm glad, but plant based diet, I think it's underrated.
Speaker 1: I'm a plant based person and I think people throw
Speaker 1: me a lot of shade because of it. Like I'm sober, right,
Speaker 1: I've been sober for almost fifteen years, So I don't
Speaker 1: drink or I can vibe in anything, and socially that
Speaker 1: that's one kind of thing, right, So you're not gonna
Speaker 1: offer me the same kind of drink. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: share that bottle of mine with you. But then to
Speaker 1: be a plant based eater too, yeah, it's like we
Speaker 1: don't even want to have dinner with you. Basically, you're
Speaker 1: not even gonna like eat the good food and you're
Speaker 1: not gonna drink, Like it's just we'll meet later for
Speaker 1: coffee or something. It's funny, I had to think. So
Speaker 1: my friend, one of my best friends, her husband is
Speaker 1: like a straight edged dude from like og straight edge
Speaker 1: guy from youth, but then just turned into just being
Speaker 1: sober basically into adulthood and also vegan. And I remember
Speaker 1: when they first started dating, we were in our early twentis.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, he's straight as van the fuck, How
Speaker 1: the fuck are we gonna get down with him? Like
Speaker 1: we're drunk as fuck eating meat? And then you begin
Speaker 1: to realize, like how wonder you like you think that
Speaker 1: like what that shit is? Because over time we're like
Speaker 1: I'm like always like like he put me onto so
Speaker 1: many vegan things and like opened my mind just from
Speaker 1: like hanging out. So I definitely underrated all of that
Speaker 1: because as I become more or like in tune with
Speaker 1: my own health and like the earth, I'm like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't have to fucking go ride or die for
Speaker 1: eating cows like I thought I did when I was
Speaker 1: much younger. But yeah, but that's like such a like
Speaker 1: also like as your personality grows past, like what do
Speaker 1: you do at tacos and beer? Like just like every
Speaker 1: die you know or whatever, Like it's just like, you know,
Speaker 1: we can also grow from that, yeah, you know, no
Speaker 1: matter where you start. Yeah, no, it's to the point
Speaker 1: now where like if I grill hamburgers, I only eat
Speaker 1: like impossible. Yeah, I don't do like keef burgers anymore.
Speaker 1: They just they I don't know, Like because I had
Speaker 1: it at Umami when they were doing impossible and the
Speaker 1: way they were doing it, I was like, this shit
Speaker 1: is no different than McDonald's quote unquote beef in my mouth.
Speaker 1: The funk I need to do this for anymore? So
Speaker 1: I'm all, I'm all on that. Although look i'm gonnad
Speaker 1: cheese okay, yeah, my guilty not guilty pleasure obviously, But
Speaker 1: like the fucking impossible whopper, it's so good. I mean,
Speaker 1: it is good. Well, part of it is that you
Speaker 1: realize that the taste of the whopper is just mayonnaise
Speaker 1: and rod everything else is sort of irrelevant, not a
Speaker 1: vegan burger, but it is like there is no need
Speaker 1: for beef to be in there, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that. Okay, let's take a quick break and
Speaker 1: we will be right back and we are back the
Speaker 1: grand old Party. I just want to check in with
Speaker 1: them a little bit, because when they took control of
Speaker 1: the House, you know, they vowed to go scorched earth
Speaker 1: on our assis. You know that there would be so
Speaker 1: many investigations, our heads would spin and the revelations would
Speaker 1: destroy the Biden administration for decades or whatever, like they
Speaker 1: you know, like they did with the Benghazi stuff. So
Speaker 1: we're a few months into the new Congress, and though
Speaker 1: multiple hearings have rendered not much at the moment. Now
Speaker 1: there's look, I'm not all that to say, there is
Speaker 1: definitely still time for them to figure out if there
Speaker 1: really is a massive conspiracy to silence conservatives online or
Speaker 1: just how huge Hunter Biden's ball sack is. But as
Speaker 1: it stands, even the things they are claiming our revelatory
Speaker 1: just aren't catching on. And naturally, the polling shows that like,
Speaker 1: while the Republicans that are pulled don't quite move the
Speaker 1: needle in terms of like, hey, do you think there's
Speaker 1: a waste of fucking time or an overreach or like
Speaker 1: they could be doing something better, Democrats and independence especially
Speaker 1: are like Independence especially are being like what the fuck
Speaker 1: is this? Like, there's it's not even that inflation is
Speaker 1: so bad, but this is the thing that they're devoting
Speaker 1: the time too. And it's all just kind of part
Speaker 1: of this current iteration of the party that we've seen
Speaker 1: that's come less complete sense onto how to even govern
Speaker 1: or even create legislation that isn't part of like their batshit,
Speaker 1: you know, anti woke culture war. So they had a
Speaker 1: really good opportunity with the Silicon Valley bank collapse, you know,
Speaker 1: because you saw some of the conservatives on Capitol Hill
Speaker 1: begin to question, like the idea of bailouts and who
Speaker 1: actually pays for the transgressions of the investor or banking class,
Speaker 1: who is the one who is really footing that bill?
Speaker 1: And is it right? But they maybe asked two questions
Speaker 1: and then went fucking all in on there were too
Speaker 1: many women and people of color on the board. So
Speaker 1: their wokeness caused high interest rates in a bank run,
Speaker 1: which is kind of where you're left. And this tendency
Speaker 1: has become so reflective that it feels like the party
Speaker 1: is guided obviously more by what's getting clicks and views
Speaker 1: on Fox News versus like what their own polling tells
Speaker 1: them because even when you pull Republicans, their biggest concern
Speaker 1: is the economy, morals and values pulled at one percent,
Speaker 1: but again this is part and parcel of what we're
Speaker 1: seeing at the moment. The other way to look at this, though,
Speaker 1: is like especially on economic stuff, and I guess this
Speaker 1: is shade at Biden, like yeah, they're not that different, no, Noans,
Speaker 1: So they're just hitting their point of difference, which is
Speaker 1: I guess a marketing strategy that is justifiable. This is
Speaker 1: the thing like at least at least Democrats will put
Speaker 1: a kid day cloth in neo on Capitol Hill because
Speaker 1: they look at expanding a voter base. The relics are like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, let's how many more can we
Speaker 1: shed by just like turning the pot up higher. But
Speaker 1: again it all probably speaks to like their singular march
Speaker 1: towards upending like the democratic process, where it's not going
Speaker 1: to matter if they have the numbers. They just want
Speaker 1: the more angry people. Yeah. They just have been built on,
Speaker 1: you know, a fervor of apartheid rule and they just
Speaker 1: need they're apartheid minority to be passionate. And even though
Speaker 1: like did you see the wake of the rally, like
Speaker 1: he was. Yes, they were losing energy out there. I
Speaker 1: was like, shit, bro Donald, like you gotta come home, baby.
Speaker 1: They're like the red meat. One black guy find him?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's always like those two guys go on
Speaker 1: with the pon the relaxed ponytail. Yeah yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: my man right there. I always see him. I'm like, wow, like,
Speaker 1: is it like following the grateful dead? Or is he
Speaker 1: like on a retainer as like a set decoration. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure. Does that fall into the prop masters killed? Yeah? Anyway,
Speaker 1: I I mean, wasn't it was I guess this is
Speaker 1: maybe just me reading my part of Twitter too much,
Speaker 1: but wasn't it like showing that those people are like
Speaker 1: a murder? Oh? No, there was one guy for blacks
Speaker 1: for Trump. I remember who. They're like, yo, he's got
Speaker 1: he's connected to some weird stuff going on. And people
Speaker 1: are like, have do they even vet these people? Because
Speaker 1: again they're just looking for literal physical like black body, Yo? Yeah,
Speaker 1: how could they vet someone? They don't. They're not turning
Speaker 1: black people away at the Trump rally. No, I mean again,
Speaker 1: they might be looking for wherever they can find them
Speaker 1: on the Internet. And so this pattern right has extended
Speaker 1: into this shooting in Tennessee now where the GOP is
Speaker 1: using this like woke, like what is woke? Woke is bad.
Speaker 1: That's why a bank crash, not because of the lack
Speaker 1: of regulation and the greed of like the people who
Speaker 1: are running it. To begin to fuel a discussion on
Speaker 1: how the far left needs to understand that being a
Speaker 1: transgender person is a mental issue. And yet despite their
Speaker 1: cries of like mental health crisis, which is their go
Speaker 1: to to not enact any gun control. You always notice
Speaker 1: they aren't now saying that trans people need more mental
Speaker 1: health support. No, so again, okay, so it's just to say,
Speaker 1: I just want to avoid the conversation about gun control.
Speaker 1: And this is the thing, like to underline the point
Speaker 1: about the Democrats and the Republicans. I'm not getting much
Speaker 1: from the Democrats either outside of we need gun reform.
Speaker 1: Yeah we've been Yeah, we know we need gun reform,
Speaker 1: Like we understand that, but where is the actual like
Speaker 1: aggressive energy to address it. Otherwise you're just revealing how
Speaker 1: much you're in the tank for like the gun lobby
Speaker 1: or your unwillingness to to grapple with it, and like
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of coverage that was like victim
Speaker 1: centered coverage about who these six people who lost their
Speaker 1: lives or and it's tragic these three children and these
Speaker 1: three adults. And I don't have an issue with that,
Speaker 1: but if you're not following this kind of coverage of
Speaker 1: pulling at our heartstrings about the loss of life by
Speaker 1: forcefully calling for real gun control and actually saying like
Speaker 1: we need to stop saying the same empty, you know,
Speaker 1: sayings we've been saying, then really it's an utter failure
Speaker 1: that like you know, it's hardly a fitting tribute to
Speaker 1: those people. And I was just as I was watching this,
Speaker 1: it was really hard to see like how like some
Speaker 1: of these anchors and a TV pundits would like breathlessly
Speaker 1: like be like yeah, you know, there is talk though
Speaker 1: too that we could have more perimeter security that's needed
Speaker 1: at our schools, or that we you know, this school
Speaker 1: didn't have a police officer there because it was like
Speaker 1: in a church setting, blah blah blah, that we're not
Speaker 1: it's not a substantive debate about like our sick obsession
Speaker 1: with guns and like you know that, and also are
Speaker 1: are the reflex of people to just hide behind the
Speaker 1: Constitution to just not actually have like a conversation about
Speaker 1: human life. Yeah, it's like our constitution was written by
Speaker 1: a bunch of racists who've never seen a bullet before.
Speaker 1: So hey, they had to melt their pewter down into
Speaker 1: musket balls. Okay, I won't I won't have you slacking
Speaker 1: them off. They had to get up their fine pewter trade. Listen,
Speaker 1: if you're like a school if a school shooter had
Speaker 1: to like set up a little like killed and melt
Speaker 1: their little musket balls to get ready to do their shit,
Speaker 1: that seems like a compromise. Yeah, I don't know. Just
Speaker 1: like as I you know, just see countless like heartbroken
Speaker 1: parents over and over like step up to like a
Speaker 1: you know, an assortment of microphones and say the same thing.
Speaker 1: You're like, it's it's it's just you get in this
Speaker 1: like really fucked up like rage loop where you're like,
Speaker 1: oh no, and then they're gonna come on and say that.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a there's a senator in Tennessee or
Speaker 1: congressman in Tennessee who quite literally said, well, there's nothing
Speaker 1: we can really do about it, right, Yeah, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry what he said. I don't see any real role
Speaker 1: that we could do other than mess things up. And
Speaker 1: then before and then again his like first thing was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're not going to fix it, We're not going to
Speaker 1: be able to and you get and then on the
Speaker 1: other side, it's just this hand ringing without any real
Speaker 1: like are we really ready to up end the status quo?
Speaker 1: The answer consistently seems to be no. Yeah. I have
Speaker 1: a conservative friend who's a gun enthusiast and I follow
Speaker 1: him and a few of his friends on Instagram, and
Speaker 1: the consensus between them seems to be that one, we've
Speaker 1: gone too far to ever go back, So how do
Speaker 1: we deal with what we have while we keep our guns?
Speaker 1: And their answer seems to be to arm everybody, right,
Speaker 1: Like if everybody had a gun, then we would be
Speaker 1: a much safer nation. Yeah, and they really think it's
Speaker 1: two separate issues, like they think that the mental illness
Speaker 1: that gets people killed has nothing to do with the
Speaker 1: access to guns. And to me, it's so frustrating. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I follow them because I want to know what's
Speaker 1: being said, you know. Yeah, No, absolutely, I follow plenty
Speaker 1: of conservatives and see the exact same thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: let me just play the comments here of Congressman Burkett,
Speaker 1: who's from Tennessee, because his basic talking point is the
Speaker 1: same thing as in line with It's like, I mean,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Man? Do you think there's
Speaker 1: any role for Congress to play in reaction to this tragedy?
Speaker 1: Obviously this is your state now that it's happened in
Speaker 1: every other star it's happening if it doesn't matter what
Speaker 1: state it's happened, and it's we're all Americans, it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter the color of their scan, and they all believe.
Speaker 1: It's believing a lot. I don't see any real role,
Speaker 1: but we could do other than mess things up, honestly
Speaker 1: because of the situation. It's like I said, I don't
Speaker 1: think our criminal is going to stop from guns. You know,
Speaker 1: you can print them out on the computer now, three
Speaker 1: D printing, and there's really I don't think you're going
Speaker 1: to stop the gun violence. I think you've got to
Speaker 1: change people's hard you know, as a Christian, as we
Speaker 1: talk about in the church. Now, okay, there, you got
Speaker 1: enough of that. It didn't need that pivot to Christ there.
Speaker 1: Thus Christ is going to turn the guns into medical care.
Speaker 1: I don't know what we're gonna do with that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you hurd, it's like this I don't know, the cat's
Speaker 1: out of the bag kind of thing. And it's It's
Speaker 1: what's interesting too, is you know he talks about he
Speaker 1: has a little girl too, and the reporter said, well,
Speaker 1: then what else can be done to protect children like
Speaker 1: your little girl? He said, oh, we'll be homeschool her. Oh.
Speaker 1: Really disgusting. Extra wrinkle. Yes, it's like trying to also
Speaker 1: destroy public schools. Great, yeah, like every layer there, he's like,
Speaker 1: because you know, we're not about a teacher thing. It's
Speaker 1: like Rosa Parks was a black woman, because we don't
Speaker 1: think that's important. We just know that she someone told
Speaker 1: her to get out of her seat on the bus
Speaker 1: and she said no, and she's a hero for that,
Speaker 1: which is why you should be an asshole to other
Speaker 1: people if they ask you to give up your seat
Speaker 1: on a bus, which that's the moral of it, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: bring up race When she said U like, this is
Speaker 1: happening in your state, and you say, well, we're all Americans,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what color you are, Like, why did
Speaker 1: you say that? I think because they're they're all so
Speaker 1: racist that it's just a reflect they have to be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just been like, well, I know it's gonna come
Speaker 1: off as I only care about maybe white people. Look,
Speaker 1: we're all we're all America. We all bleed red, black, brown, purple,
Speaker 1: you know magentimle right, well bleed red. So it's also
Speaker 1: like these like conservatives all never put their fucking money
Speaker 1: where their mouth is, Like, oh, it's the safest society
Speaker 1: is if everyone has a gun, Like, go to eddy
Speaker 1: failed state, then then live you want Libertarians off, there's
Speaker 1: no rules in like many of the countries America's destroyed.
Speaker 1: Go set up shop there. Yeah, like people there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if it's that tough, and that's what's so freedom is
Speaker 1: so important. Well, they all and this is everybody that's
Speaker 1: a politician. They speak like they live in the world
Speaker 1: that other like the normal people do. Yet this guy
Speaker 1: is someone who is a member of Congress, who has
Speaker 1: I'm assuming enough wealth to have like you know, like
Speaker 1: a stay at home family and homeschool their child and
Speaker 1: afford themselves all these little advantages, but then not understand
Speaker 1: what it means to not have those and then just
Speaker 1: talk shit about them. I'd be like, hey, this is
Speaker 1: a great place I mean, I'm not actually subjected to
Speaker 1: the dangers of the world. I'm comment thing and won't
Speaker 1: do anything about. But I believe it's okay, and I
Speaker 1: think that's it's Yeah, it's very, very frustrating. Let's take
Speaker 1: a quick pivot, as we do on this show, to
Speaker 1: woolly mammoths. Just let's take a quick breath here. So
Speaker 1: if you were a fan of the Flintstones like I was,
Speaker 1: and you wanted to eat a whole side of dinosaur
Speaker 1: or rib and now you can have meat balls that
Speaker 1: are made of woolly mammoth meat. Kind of kind of okay.
Speaker 1: So this Australian company, vow has made mammoth meat entirely
Speaker 1: grown from cells, so they didn't obviously require her traveling
Speaker 1: back in time and slaughtering a prehistoric creature like I
Speaker 1: hope it did. Yeah, that would have looked up the
Speaker 1: space time continuum. So could you imagine that as a film? Though,
Speaker 1: I listen, they fucked up with the movie. Sixty five
Speaker 1: sixty five should have been like a catch and cook
Speaker 1: like from YouTube. Wait, what's sixty five sixty five is
Speaker 1: the flop recently flopped ish movie that was like Adam
Speaker 1: Driver Crash Lances spaceship and there's like scary bosters out
Speaker 1: there and they're dinosaurs. Oh really, I did it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the movie did not do well. I love the trailer.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet, but I'm guessing there isn't
Speaker 1: a scene where after he kills a dinosaur, he kind
Speaker 1: of looks around. It's like I'm gonna try to bite Yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly did Like good thing? Wait, is this guy Tim
Speaker 1: He's a time traveler, though I think it's not supposed
Speaker 1: to be. I didn't. I don't know that the twist
Speaker 1: is for the purposes of this bit. I hope he's
Speaker 1: a time traveler, but he's also like he brings seasonings
Speaker 1: with him the back of his mind. He's like, you
Speaker 1: never know, there might be some shit you could eat
Speaker 1: that you won't be able to. That's true, you know,
Speaker 1: an alien planet. You just got to try a little,
Speaker 1: just a taste, would you You have to? You think so?
Speaker 1: I think I would eat a dinosaur. Yeah, Like I
Speaker 1: don't have a I'm like I get that. Like, if
Speaker 1: I'm you know, if I'm already traveling in time, I'm
Speaker 1: probably fucked. Anyway. It's I'm like, fuck it, let's have
Speaker 1: a bite of this like rapt or foot, but an alien.
Speaker 1: That's where in my mind ago that feels like a
Speaker 1: bridge too far, because I don't know if our biology
Speaker 1: is it could be poisoned to me. But again, this
Speaker 1: is me being so stupid that I'm like foot a raptor. See,
Speaker 1: that's okay, that's good eating. I'm just saying, like every
Speaker 1: time in one of those alien movies, it's like, oh, like,
Speaker 1: oh I was assaulted and like became you know, not
Speaker 1: or whatever, just like a tapped the thing and then
Speaker 1: you know, turned into an alien. And I think given
Speaker 1: how we've seen how real people react to various pandemics
Speaker 1: that diseases, if aliens invaded or like we were at
Speaker 1: a spaceship that found like you know, alien eggs, there's
Speaker 1: no like caution. Someone would just straight up eat it.
Speaker 1: I know, I know they're like, wait, what's all over
Speaker 1: your mouth and one of the eggs missing? Oh it
Speaker 1: burns a little bit. Oh my god, better than it
Speaker 1: looks though. So it turns out, they, much to our dismay,
Speaker 1: are not time travelers, um so boo all of that.
Speaker 1: But really they want to They're really trying to show
Speaker 1: the potential of what like meat grown from cells, like
Speaker 1: what you can do exactly without obviously the slaughter houses
Speaker 1: and like the large scale agricultural opera like livestock operations
Speaker 1: that are causing a lot of environmental problems. So they've
Speaker 1: also been doing this thing. They've been like investing in
Speaker 1: making cultivated meat out of other species, including crocodiles, peacocks,
Speaker 1: and kangaroos. But the first one that apparently be sold
Speaker 1: to like the public, is going to be Japanese quail,
Speaker 1: which will be available like later this year, like in
Speaker 1: Asia somewhere, but apparently like so again this is about
Speaker 1: their publicity stunt to basically say, like, we had enough
Speaker 1: DNA sequence that we could kind of extrapolate something that
Speaker 1: we could say was wooly mammoth like. So what they
Speaker 1: did was they quote used the DNA sequence for mammoth myoglobin,
Speaker 1: and they filled in the gaps with elephant DNA and
Speaker 1: then placed it in a myoblast stem cell from sheep.
Speaker 1: I don't know what any of those words mean, but
Speaker 1: they're they're quote what they said it was quote all
Speaker 1: ridiculously easy and fast. That doesn't sound like something I
Speaker 1: want to eat. I got in a little trouble with
Speaker 1: some of my friends, Like in probably twenty eighteen, two
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen, when everyone's doing twenty three and me and
Speaker 1: I was like, because I I majored in biology in college,
Speaker 1: and I you know when you do those labs. I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, you can sequence your own DNA
Speaker 1: and everyone was clowning on me, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. It is like complicated, but like
Speaker 1: every time you've done one of those COVID tests in
Speaker 1: the you know, the last three years, that's essentially what
Speaker 1: you need to do to to uh sequenced it. Like
Speaker 1: we could all do it. Yeah, it's like a swab
Speaker 1: and you put it in an enzyme and then you like,
Speaker 1: there's there's different you have to put in a PCR tube,
Speaker 1: but probably reaction. Tobe obviously put that into center fears. Yes,
Speaker 1: we've all done this, but that's what we have a
Speaker 1: lot of kids like that's I remember. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: PCR probably chain reaction to. It's so funny. Those little
Speaker 1: vials I stole because I thought it'd be cool to
Speaker 1: put like drugs in them, and then the little popps
Speaker 1: and like, but yeah, that's actually good. That's where my
Speaker 1: stupid ass mind was in high school. Aside from stealing
Speaker 1: the digital scales for my own weighing. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: saying now, all that all those digital scales are like
Speaker 1: twenty dollars high. It's just like all that shit you
Speaker 1: can I promise you you could do it anyway. So
Speaker 1: that's okay. Hold on, but I mentioned how, but how
Speaker 1: is it gonna? How do I spin on a thing
Speaker 1: and then it tells me on Portuguese suddenly? Um? I
Speaker 1: mean it's just a matter of looking up the right
Speaker 1: You're trying to find the genes that tell you that shit,
Speaker 1: or I guess in there in twenty three meets case,
Speaker 1: they just you know, find as many genes as they
Speaker 1: look for, and then they match it with the number
Speaker 1: of people who have this that are Portuguese or whatever.
Speaker 1: Could I do a twenty three in andrew t where
Speaker 1: you'll see I trust you to sequence my DNA. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying we all could do it. If you could
Speaker 1: like put drops of liquid into a little tube, shake
Speaker 1: it up, and then pour pipette that onto like a
Speaker 1: little piece of paper, you could do it. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying physical skills to do it right. Everyone, every one
Speaker 1: of us has done anytime before. We don't have a
Speaker 1: micropipette and things like that, so maybe that is a micropipette.
Speaker 1: See I'm learning Tanita digital scales or like three bucks.
Speaker 1: Now you could go on eBay and get some old
Speaker 1: as centrifuges for way less than you should be able to,
Speaker 1: or just tied on a string. It just whip it
Speaker 1: around your head. I'm sorry that was that was my
Speaker 1: big derail. But what they say, it's easier than you think.
Speaker 1: I bet it genuinely is easier than you think. I get. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess I like that, or maybe I thought it
Speaker 1: was maybe like a bit of ausy humor where they're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it might make it be a myth mate, it's just
Speaker 1: ridiculously easy and faces the meat. Does the meat have cholesterol?
Speaker 1: I'd imagine, I mean probably it probably does, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: on some level. So it's just it's slaughter free, but
Speaker 1: it's still is meat the way that it's grown from
Speaker 1: a cell. But it doesn't have to require raising any
Speaker 1: live animals or like, and doesn't have parents. No. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're like, hey, we just got this DNA right here,
Speaker 1: and then we put it with a myo blast stem cell.
Speaker 1: The look ill eat it. The stem cell came from
Speaker 1: a living sheep, but that sheep wasn't killed probably many
Speaker 1: unless you ask a geop politician and which yeah, it
Speaker 1: was like, we will never use sheep stem cells to
Speaker 1: make our meats here. Yeah, like maybe probably in reality
Speaker 1: of this sheep was killed. But yeah, you could do
Speaker 1: it like a pick the bone marrow out of a thing.
Speaker 1: People do it all the time. Not all the time
Speaker 1: all the time. But have you have I? Have you
Speaker 1: done it twenty three in me? No? I wouldn't. I
Speaker 1: could do that ship myself. I'm too cheap new twenty
Speaker 1: three of me, I would do it myself. Okay, you
Speaker 1: know what, asshole you gonna now you have to do it.
Speaker 1: You can be like I don't have to. I could
Speaker 1: do it myself, and don't be a don't put your
Speaker 1: money where your mouth to look into it. I did.
Speaker 1: I did at drunk at a bar. Get as far
Speaker 1: as being like, all right, this such a few just
Speaker 1: only like two hundred eighty bucks from like uc orvide,
Speaker 1: I just have to drive out and get it. Wait, lord,
Speaker 1: did you say you had I not only have I
Speaker 1: I've done twenty three in me, But my boyfriend has
Speaker 1: done it three times and they refunded as money because
Speaker 1: not they could not assess his sample. Oh yeah, well
Speaker 1: they finally they sent him replacement kits twice and then
Speaker 1: the third time they sent him back his money, and
Speaker 1: we said, They're basically like, we can't help you. Damn.
Speaker 1: Isn't that weird? This makes your boyfriend one of the
Speaker 1: most interesting fucking people I've ever heard about. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like hot a DNA leavel like our hands. Yeah,
Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, this sounds like a great beginning to like, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: I haven't. It's funny because I just found like I
Speaker 1: got an old ass khit like five years ago, like
Speaker 1: in a gift bag for some like industry party I
Speaker 1: went to. But at the time I was like, I
Speaker 1: ain't fucking giving them my DNA, so they sell it
Speaker 1: to fiser or whatever the fuck. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think part of me is kind of interested. The
Speaker 1: one I'm more interested in is the African interest ancestry
Speaker 1: one because I would love more specifically to know like
Speaker 1: where in Africa, like you know, all of my likecestors
Speaker 1: were coming from, but that I need a female relative
Speaker 1: because they that's the gene that it's stored in. It
Speaker 1: couldn't be me. So I'm talking to my cousin in
Speaker 1: Chicago about figuring out how to but that it does
Speaker 1: interest me because it is something it is very interesting
Speaker 1: when you like, especially for people who like it opens
Speaker 1: up family secrets. Not bad in a bad way, but
Speaker 1: sometimes you hear people and be like, oh, yeah, like
Speaker 1: your great great grandfather was like white, and we were like,
Speaker 1: you know, I probably can't say any details, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I had a friend who discovered some pretty insane shit
Speaker 1: about his family. Oh yeah, yeah, I know plenty of stories,
Speaker 1: like even people I think andrew you and I know
Speaker 1: where the next thing, you know, it's like knock knock,
Speaker 1: and it's like like, UM, don't want that und you
Speaker 1: And then it's like oh shit, but yeah, look I
Speaker 1: get it. It's it's dis ocated. Oh, especially for like
Speaker 1: you know, men from past eras. They're like, I didn't
Speaker 1: think it was gonna be like digitally, like I would
Speaker 1: digitally get caught out there secret families, but more than
Speaker 1: a few secret family exposed type things. Yeah. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: realizing now because my I never met my grandpa, but
Speaker 1: he just during World War two pretended to have died,
Speaker 1: started a secret family, and that just showed back up
Speaker 1: about Grandpa's life and we're all just like, wow, man,
Speaker 1: it's really you're really lucky. Twenty three and me asn't
Speaker 1: a round you fuck it old basketball Brian, our editor
Speaker 1: Brians just came in the chat and said, you can
Speaker 1: buy a Centrifuge slash PCR machine for eight hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: There you got Boom twenty three and t whatever twenty
Speaker 1: three b is charging. I'm like eight, you know, eight
Speaker 1: bucks go to all the comedians and writers that like
Speaker 1: we know and just being like, yo, you know, I'll
Speaker 1: sequence bet you could get that thing paid for within
Speaker 1: like six people. Listen. Yeah, oh, and this is like
Speaker 1: a nice one. I'm saying. I'm talking about like used
Speaker 1: equipment from UCLA. I think I think you could get
Speaker 1: a cheaper I think we could do that. Sounds like
Speaker 1: you're trying to encourage me to go to use file
Speaker 1: lab and starts stealing a PCR machine, But I'm just
Speaker 1: saying you've stolen other shit from there, so what we're
Speaker 1: at a certain point, Yeah, I'll be taken from them,
Speaker 1: because for years they'd be taken from me. That's Tupac said,
Speaker 1: all right, let's take a quick break and we'll be
Speaker 1: right back to talk about the new Stormy Daniels. And
Speaker 1: we're back, and what a story we just heard from Andrew. Folks,
Speaker 1: you gotta be there, you gotta be there. It involved
Speaker 1: the Bidens. I'm just gonna say that. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: say I didn't realize that you were so close with them.
Speaker 1: But speaking of politics, or I guess ancillary or tertiary
Speaker 1: secondary characters around the world of politics, uh, Stormy Daniels,
Speaker 1: but I guess no primary figure right now because of
Speaker 1: the you know, the payout story, which I don't know,
Speaker 1: may lead to the first ever criminal indictment of a
Speaker 1: former US president, And I really stressed may yeah, right, unsatisfying,
Speaker 1: even if I felt like part of me is almost
Speaker 1: like I feel like that tweet from Donald Trump was
Speaker 1: like helping out like the Department of Justice too, because
Speaker 1: like everyone's like, are you gonna do something? He's like,
Speaker 1: I might get arrested, and then everybody's like, yeah, I'm like,
Speaker 1: he just said that he's afraid he is okay, And
Speaker 1: I think it only probably could be because he's had
Speaker 1: to like testify so many times, or the threat of it,
Speaker 1: but anyway, it's like we we wait with bated breath,
Speaker 1: but there will be no U, I guess celebrating until
Speaker 1: it's like you're like, is it for real? Is okay?
Speaker 1: Let me see a non AI version of his like
Speaker 1: hairstyle being blown away by the wind, because that will
Speaker 1: be something. But anyway, let's talk about Stormy Daniels because
Speaker 1: while I was gone, Jack was saying like he felt
Speaker 1: like the news cycle just feels like a like a
Speaker 1: TV show that's like retreading like tired material because they
Speaker 1: run out of ideas. It's like Stormy Daniels is back,
Speaker 1: like what I thought that character got written off like
Speaker 1: three years ago. But again, if this were a TV show,
Speaker 1: the character has come back and has become a late
Speaker 1: season Riverdale levels of strange. As our writer J M
Speaker 1: mcnapp puts, I don't know much about Riverdale except I
Speaker 1: think the teachers. The only episode I saw, one of
Speaker 1: the teachers was having sex with a student, but the parents'
Speaker 1: reaction was just for them to get out of town.
Speaker 1: It's a weird show. I haven't watched all of that.
Speaker 1: It's a weird show. Um, everyone now, everyone in the
Speaker 1: chat because like it's gotten wild, there's magic involved. Now
Speaker 1: my god. Yeah, I mean in the comics, Archie fights
Speaker 1: the Punisher once or twice. No, she is crazy, doesn't
Speaker 1: really fight the Punisher. Apparently I haven't read it, but
Speaker 1: apparently the Archie versus the Punisher is like sort of
Speaker 1: a tour to force in that no one really breaks character.
Speaker 1: Oh whoa, yeah, there's quite Literally Archie meets a Punisher
Speaker 1: and everyone just is who they are. Like, I like
Speaker 1: how Artie saying I knew there'd be a chaperone. This
Speaker 1: is ridiculous. Anyway, that's the crossover. Yeah, it's the crossover
Speaker 1: we want to see. It's the crossover that we all deserve.
Speaker 1: M But so since like the Trump stuff it has
Speaker 1: come out, we've seen her do stand up like in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. I remember we touched on that and she
Speaker 1: like she was like doing a whole tour and like
Speaker 1: selling out rooms. Like with her you know, look beginner material,
Speaker 1: but look all it's about getting on Mike and figured,
Speaker 1: you know, finding yourself up there, which she did and
Speaker 1: was selling out stage. So good on you. But then
Speaker 1: has like a merchandising business, including a sci fi comic
Speaker 1: book series in which she battles a Trump like villain. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is not a joke. It's called Stormy Daniel's Space Force.
Speaker 1: And if you look at this like version of Trump,
Speaker 1: like it's him, but like with like the worst like
Speaker 1: punk rock metal hair him, So he doesn't have he
Speaker 1: doesn't have the follicular fortitude to even pull that kind
Speaker 1: of Yeah, he'd have to get like some like Marvel
Speaker 1: level like like foam pasted on his head, because you
Speaker 1: imagine he really does that, and people are like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's giving fanos, but yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1: I love that for him. But yeah, again, this is
Speaker 1: like part of a full force sort of like let
Speaker 1: me try and get these bags like right as much
Speaker 1: as possible. And then she also appeared on the reboot
Speaker 1: of The Surreal Life remember that old H one hit
Speaker 1: which I remember seeing like the promos for it, but
Speaker 1: very quickly I just it bummed me out because it's like,
Speaker 1: check out Stormy Daniels longside Frankie Munez who's had so
Speaker 1: many concussions he doesn't remember most of his life, and
Speaker 1: Dennis Rodman and like Tamar Braxton, and I was like,
Speaker 1: it's so weird. How I've lost the appetite for the
Speaker 1: surreal life too. Like when it came out, I was like, glimmy,
Speaker 1: see these people, like what's going on with them? And
Speaker 1: I think now is like you begin to understand more
Speaker 1: and more celebrities are just normal people that are usually
Speaker 1: like sad I mean Twitter TikTok really ate that material, yeah,
Speaker 1: because there's nothing new for these people to be weird
Speaker 1: about any right, you know, yeah, I know I saw. So.
Speaker 1: The other thing is that we found at is that she's, like,
Speaker 1: I use this term lightly a ghostbuster um because during
Speaker 1: the so you know, Mike Lavinadi her like her pit
Speaker 1: bull lawyer, the fighter who was going to go up
Speaker 1: against Trump, but then his ass ended up in jail
Speaker 1: for stealing money from her UM during that trial against
Speaker 1: him again because he was found guilty of seeing three
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. From her book Advance, we learned that
Speaker 1: she was also pitching a paranormal TV show called Spooky Babes,
Speaker 1: in which she travels the country investigating ghostly occurrences, and
Speaker 1: it was all inspired by her own quote personal experiences
Speaker 1: that she had at her home in New Orleans, which
Speaker 1: she said was haunted as fuck, and that's why she
Speaker 1: should be out there. The really interesting part is she
Speaker 1: has a sidekick on the show in the form of
Speaker 1: a literal haunted doll that she brings around called Susan,
Speaker 1: who is supposedly possessed by the soul of a girl
Speaker 1: who died in the nineteen sixties, and even brought this
Speaker 1: creepy doll to the surreal Life set. I think maybe
Speaker 1: to try and do some like cross promo or something,
Speaker 1: but this, like the whole thing has become like also
Speaker 1: a big part of the Abanati trial. The reason it
Speaker 1: came up is that he was like questioning her about
Speaker 1: the ghosts, like extensively to try and paint her as
Speaker 1: like an unreliable like narrator, or that she's like struggling,
Speaker 1: like she has delusions of like ghost stuff, and this
Speaker 1: dude apparently was like hammering the ghost stuff so much.
Speaker 1: But everyone's like, this is not it, sir, And then
Speaker 1: very quickly Gavel teamed on that yeah she really did.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that kind of like victory she's going
Speaker 1: to collect if this case ends up being the thing
Speaker 1: that takes Trump down. But yeah, I would fucking I
Speaker 1: would try and monetize the fuck out of that. She
Speaker 1: seems ready. I know she would have gotten sued into oblivion.
Speaker 1: But why would you call it spooky babes when you
Speaker 1: could call it buston? Makes me feel good? So it's
Speaker 1: just there, it's right there. And also are the spooky
Speaker 1: babes in this plural sense her in this doll? And
Speaker 1: that's spooky in itself, you know that's just like okay'
Speaker 1: oh the doll is so weird. It's not even that weird,
Speaker 1: unfort But I like anything, like I really do. I
Speaker 1: am curious if she you know, because I have people
Speaker 1: in my family who swear up and down about goals,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like and there's not a
Speaker 1: thing you can say to them about it, like you know,
Speaker 1: they've they've seen what they've seen, the experience what they've experienced.
Speaker 1: But I also wonder if Stormy Daniels falls into that
Speaker 1: category or she's just kind of like she knows how
Speaker 1: to you know, spin a yarn and tell a tale
Speaker 1: to get people interested. Because I feel like, I mean,
Speaker 1: if that's true, like I really want to know about
Speaker 1: your relationship with this doll, like what's going on with it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It feels like she's just got a knack for the spectacle. Clearly, yeah,
Speaker 1: clearly right. What about you, laur any where you at
Speaker 1: with the ghost? Are you or you spook squad or
Speaker 1: you're just like I've seen everything, but God, So I
Speaker 1: cannot watch scary movies if they're supernatural, because I creep
Speaker 1: around my house for months afterwards scared of everything. Oh
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't even let that in. When when
Speaker 1: I was little, my mom took me to see The
Speaker 1: Exorcist and the Amityville Horror and I is just like
Speaker 1: I believe, and I'm super scared of it. So I
Speaker 1: don't want anything to do with it now. Personally, you
Speaker 1: ever have any paranormal supernatural encounters? I don't know that
Speaker 1: I have, But my mom has had a lot, she's
Speaker 1: had a lot like personality thing. Maybe maybe I think
Speaker 1: that maybe there's a level of awareness that some people have.
Speaker 1: And like my four year old when he's twenty five now,
Speaker 1: but when he was four, he saw me ironing and
Speaker 1: he said, Mommy, that's the way I used to make
Speaker 1: grilled cheese sandwiches when I was a man. And then
Speaker 1: he left the room and I came I'm like what
Speaker 1: and he didn't really he couldn't repeat it back to me.
Speaker 1: But I think if that was true, like if he
Speaker 1: had another life, a past life where he was because
Speaker 1: my grandfather did that. My grandfather used ironing boards with
Speaker 1: wax paper to make grilled cheese sandwiches. Oh wild. That's
Speaker 1: because they didn't have a hot plate, you know, so
Speaker 1: they could plug in the eye and cook like that.
Speaker 1: So there's I'm thinking like maybe when when you're a little,
Speaker 1: when you're born, there's like a window to something else
Speaker 1: that we can't see as adults because we've been so
Speaker 1: hardened and jaded. And then maybe some people aren't as
Speaker 1: hardened and jaded their whole lives and they have ability
Speaker 1: to see other things. It's it's so funny because when
Speaker 1: I was like maybe eight or nine years old, and
Speaker 1: I was in Japan, like with my cousins, we were
Speaker 1: walking at night, like from the convenience store, like you know,
Speaker 1: like the kids walk by themselves all over the place,
Speaker 1: and we're walking like down this street and my cousin
Speaker 1: and his friends swore a ghost walked by, but I
Speaker 1: saw a like piece of trash blow across the intersection
Speaker 1: where they saw it was a ghost, And I thought
Speaker 1: I didn't know if they were trying to fuck with
Speaker 1: me and be like that was a ghost or whatever,
Speaker 1: but they genuinely were like it was a ghost. I'm like,
Speaker 1: that was a bag, right, And it was just weird
Speaker 1: how the two were very like insistent upon it. And
Speaker 1: then you know when we got home, like they were
Speaker 1: like telling my aunt right, blah blah blah, And I
Speaker 1: was like, that's up bad going on with you. But
Speaker 1: then that was your first, your first step as a
Speaker 1: career gas lighter. Yeah, what are you talking about? There
Speaker 1: ain't known, there's nothing there. Meanwhile, I'm so scared anyway,
Speaker 1: Well enough ghostock. Laura, thank you so much for joining
Speaker 1: us on the daily zeitgeist has been a pleasure. Where
Speaker 1: can people find you, follow you and more importantly, get
Speaker 1: that book help your help you climb the charts. Thank you, um,
Speaker 1: thank you guys for having me. This has been so
Speaker 1: much fun. I um the only one pod dot com
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Speaker 1: and then the podcast is the only one in the
Speaker 1: room and love to have you guys take a listen
Speaker 1: to the podcast as well. Yeah, please please. And is
Speaker 1: there a tweet or other work of social media that
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying. I have really been enjoying. It's Leslie Jones.
Speaker 1: And this goes back to the Woke Conversation calling out
Speaker 1: of Florida's Governor Ron de Santis for racism, saying that
Speaker 1: his erasure of black history is nothing short of racism
Speaker 1: and that she's angry about it, and she's few curious
Speaker 1: in the post. So I've been sending it around to
Speaker 1: different people because I just think that she articulates in
Speaker 1: this very very outraged way so perfectly what we've been
Speaker 1: thinking and scared too. Like she talks about the n
Speaker 1: double acp issuing a travel warning to black people about
Speaker 1: Florida and like this is a place that doesn't that
Speaker 1: doesn't love us anymore, right, yeah, truly, I mean especially,
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's mind blowing how obtuse conservatives act,
Speaker 1: and like I don't see how that changes anything, right,
Speaker 1: if like, if there's no context to something that hastical significance,
Speaker 1: you're like, what as long as you all of history
Speaker 1: and yes, you know, yes that's half in America that
Speaker 1: I guess this is crazy. But it's wild though too,
Speaker 1: that like their biggest fear is truly that people are aware,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, and that is the biggest,
Speaker 1: the most frightening thing, even when it goes along with
Speaker 1: like what was like there's a recently a film that
Speaker 1: they pulled out of schools that were like yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah,
Speaker 1: because a parent said they were afraid their white child
Speaker 1: would learn about the racism that black kids were facing.
Speaker 1: Or still do. And you're like, excuse me, your fears
Speaker 1: that they'll learn about the world. Yeah, really that was
Speaker 1: disingenuous though, right, Like the thing I saw was like
Speaker 1: the parents like this one might teach my kid to
Speaker 1: be racist, and it's like, yeah, okay, no, no, well,
Speaker 1: I mean I think that's either way. They're just mainlining
Speaker 1: the really stupid talking points. And yeah, I think because
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, for them, they do
Speaker 1: feel that there is some kind of karmic debt, whether
Speaker 1: or not they feel responsible for it, that does exist,
Speaker 1: and it's more about acknowledging it or not. And I
Speaker 1: think that's karmic debt. It's fucking economic debt. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying I think. Wow, people look at and sent
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. It's like,
Speaker 1: it's not about that motherfucker. Yes, it's not about We're
Speaker 1: not looking for you right now, we're saying it actually
Speaker 1: observe what is happening and understand the system that exists,
Speaker 1: and then work with us to dismantle it. But again,
Speaker 1: equity to somebody who's been in the oppressor's seat looks
Speaker 1: like yeah different, yeah, exactly. So take the context out
Speaker 1: and Rosa Parks was just some lady out of us
Speaker 1: who really was rude to a guy. Right, I guess
Speaker 1: honestly how it looks if you because I think in
Speaker 1: that telling of it they say she was a part
Speaker 1: of a different group or something. So really, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: really obscene honestly. Given Republicans, it's a little while they
Speaker 1: don't pivot that into and that's why there shouldn't be
Speaker 1: public transportation or public anything. I know. Right, it's like
Speaker 1: somehow that's a bridge too far. Maybe not, you know why,
Speaker 1: I'll say, with it a year or someone will make
Speaker 1: that pitch in seriously, Oh yeah, they're all private everything.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's oh, it's always all private everything with
Speaker 1: you know, hey, all the clouds. I guess that is
Speaker 1: stringing all the clowns and your te How about you?
Speaker 1: Where could you find you? Follow you? And what's a
Speaker 1: tweet that you like? Because I haven't looked on social
Speaker 1: media as much as I like, and I usually just
Speaker 1: look at your likes sometimes because I had to scroll
Speaker 1: through by shit. Um, I actually probably the best place now,
Speaker 1: especially again with the writer strike coming up my podcast
Speaker 1: is this racist We are doing as much premium stuff
Speaker 1: as we can, so we start. We have had a
Speaker 1: thing going stub optimal Pods dot com um and the
Speaker 1: show that is still odd Gooing that I'm really happy
Speaker 1: with is uh, have you guys had Matt Apodaca on
Speaker 1: the show before. I'm sure you have. I don't think
Speaker 1: we have, but I know. I mean, he's always like,
Speaker 1: we're always one degree away from Matt. Yeah, funny, funny man.
Speaker 1: Matt Apa and I have been doing this thing where
Speaker 1: we watch a children's show, Chippendale's Park Life, which is
Speaker 1: for toddlers. It is there are no words in it.
Speaker 1: It is just like coups and giggles. And we've been
Speaker 1: doing watch alongs of that called Dale Dudes. I'm very
Speaker 1: proud of this thing that is adult men watching something
Speaker 1: that's for literally subverbal children. Yeah, but I know, but
Speaker 1: with how intelligent you are in Matt, like, good analysis
Speaker 1: is what I'm really interested. It's too but I'm very
Speaker 1: proud of it. It's so stupid anyway, souls. Actually, I
Speaker 1: do did want to tag a thing, Laura said. There's
Speaker 1: also there's a new ish bookstore in Pasadena called Octavia's Bookshelf. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just went there. Oh my god. I still have it,
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's a black phoned um first black owned
Speaker 1: bookstore in Pasadena, which probably is. I mean, black people
Speaker 1: couldn't own in Pasadena up until like the seventies or
Speaker 1: some shit like it. It was that, it was it
Speaker 1: was fat, I guess. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's where
Speaker 1: all the publishers went to be like, oh, elasis, shiitthole,
Speaker 1: let's take our millions over here anyway. So yeah, just
Speaker 1: just wanting to to that. And then, in the spirit
Speaker 1: of the wild pivots on this show, my my tweet
Speaker 1: that I've liked is Honestly I'm ashamed to say it,
Speaker 1: but I already have it pulled up. Um. So it's
Speaker 1: from my friend Matt Toby. Um. It was just one
Speaker 1: of those quote tweets in response to, like, what's a
Speaker 1: little known fact about your profession that would make people
Speaker 1: you know? And he wrote, people die at the dick
Speaker 1: sucking factory all the time. And that's a joke, son,
Speaker 1: a stupid joke. Literally, a shaved depth at it. But
Speaker 1: I don't have anything better. I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, that's that's also. I think I actually did
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