Speaker 1: All right, Leonard Skinner's simple man that can only mean
Speaker 1: one thing. Ah on this radio program that means whole things.
Speaker 1: Self proclaimed simple man that means all things. Bill O'Reilly
Speaker 1: old things, Bill O'Reilly a billoreilly dot com. Of course,
Speaker 1: Bill with his new, next, latest, greatest, number one New
Speaker 1: York Times bestselling book, Confronting Evil Assessing the Worst of
Speaker 1: the Worst. Mister O'Reilly, sir, how are you I know
Speaker 1: this is the highlight of your week?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. I was watching your TV share last night.
Speaker 2: Somebody forced me to do that. They broke into my
Speaker 2: house with an ak annity. I said, okay, and you
Speaker 2: were doing Why can't.
Speaker 1: You just say, Hanna do you do a really good show?
Speaker 1: And I'm really proud of you and I love watching
Speaker 1: your show every night.
Speaker 3: Why do you have to lie?
Speaker 2: Because that would be boring.
Speaker 3: I gotta you know, fair answer. That's fair, that's a
Speaker 3: good answer. Actually, you're doing.
Speaker 2: A story about these conresspeople who put out a social
Speaker 2: media thing telling us forces that they don't have to
Speaker 2: obey certain orders that are illegal.
Speaker 1: All right, well, we were starting on the same page.
Speaker 1: Good Rather than talk about it, it's only fifty two seconds.
Speaker 3: Let me play it.
Speaker 1: Democratic lawmakers pushing for our military to disobey orders, our
Speaker 1: intel community to portray our country and our commander in chief.
Speaker 1: Let's let's play. These people want to speak directly to
Speaker 1: members of the military.
Speaker 4: And the intelligence community to take risks each day keep
Speaker 4: Americans safe. We know you are under enormous stress and
Speaker 4: pressure right now. Americans trust their military, but that trust
Speaker 4: is at risk.
Speaker 1: This administration is pitting our uniform military.
Speaker 4: And intelligence community professionals against American citizens.
Speaker 5: Like us. You all swore an oath.
Speaker 4: To protect and of then this constitution.
Speaker 1: Right now, the threats to our constitution aren't just coming
Speaker 1: from a.
Speaker 4: Broad but from right here at home.
Speaker 5: Our laws are clear.
Speaker 4: You can refuse illegal orders. You can refuse illegal orders.
Speaker 4: You must refuse illegal orders. No one has to carry
Speaker 4: out orders that violate the law or our constitution.
Speaker 1: We know this is hard and that it's a difficult
Speaker 1: time to be a public.
Speaker 4: Servant, but whether you're serving in the CIA, the.
Speaker 1: Army, or Navy, the Air Force, your vigilance is critical.
Speaker 4: And know that we have your back.
Speaker 1: Okay, Bill, We're talking about US senators in this and
Speaker 1: what they are saying basically is you can disobey illegal orders.
Speaker 1: They failed to identify any such illegal order or what
Speaker 1: they deemed to be such. To me, this is a
Speaker 1: flagrant attempt to undermine the president's role, his constitutional authority
Speaker 1: as commander in chief. Frankly, I view it as an
Speaker 1: act of subversion against our country, and it almost sounds
Speaker 1: like they are calling for a military coup to me,
Speaker 1: that's my impression hearing that, especially because they gave no
Speaker 1: specific example.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I don't swear about these people, with the
Speaker 2: exception of Mark Kelly, the senator from Arizona. He was
Speaker 2: very surprised to see him in that next the other's,
Speaker 2: you know, this slatkin from Michigan, and the other's a
Speaker 2: very fire raft Trump haters. So I don't care about that.
Speaker 2: But what I do care about is you have a
Speaker 2: structure in this country whereby the courts decide what is
Speaker 2: legal and illegal, not individual people, which is what all
Speaker 2: of these senators and congress people are saying. They're like,
Speaker 2: you don't like it, if you think it's illegal, you
Speaker 2: can't do it. That's a lie. I mean, if you
Speaker 2: walk down the street and say, hey, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't really like this law. So I'm going to break
Speaker 2: this guy's jaw, which you're going to go to jail
Speaker 2: if you like the assault law. Not So, these people
Speaker 2: are basically calling for anarchy among the American military and
Speaker 2: people who are working in the intel services. So now
Speaker 2: here's my beef. The Republicans control both the Senate and
Speaker 2: the House. These people should be referred today to the
Speaker 2: ethics committees in both bodies. Republican leadership. I'm getting a
Speaker 2: little tired of hearing conservative Republicans' wine about injustice. We
Speaker 2: all know that's there and it's true, and that Trump
Speaker 2: hatred has really damaged this country. But there are actions
Speaker 2: that you can take to tamp it down. So where's
Speaker 2: Johnson and Thune? Shouldn't they I have that press conference
Speaker 2: today about this, shouldn't I think.
Speaker 1: They probably should. I think this needs to be dealt
Speaker 1: with head on. And it's kind of bizarre because I
Speaker 1: would have thought that this is front page news everywhere.
Speaker 1: I picked up on this yesterday and got a hold
Speaker 1: of this, and I was stunned that nobody else was
Speaker 1: covering it, at least nobody that I know of. Maybe
Speaker 1: you did on your show. I have no idea. If not,
Speaker 1: you'll cover it tonight because now it should be front
Speaker 1: and center, and these guys absolutely need to get all
Speaker 1: over this, and I'll make sure that they are aware
Speaker 1: of it. I will send them the tapes myself.
Speaker 2: Well, you should invite them on a night, both fun
Speaker 2: and Johnson, and say what are you gonna do? What
Speaker 2: are you gonna do? See, this is what's bothering me
Speaker 2: now on the overall tenor of the United States of America. Yes,
Speaker 2: we're divided. That's not gonna come together anytime soon. They're
Speaker 2: gonna be divided for the next three years Donald Trump's
Speaker 2: in office. Okay, that's just a fad of complete But
Speaker 2: when you step out online and you hurt the country
Speaker 2: to pursue your own vengeance, as these elected officials did,
Speaker 2: and I saw it on your TV program. I had
Speaker 2: heard a little bit about it, but I didn't see
Speaker 2: the tape. And as soon as you ran the tape
Speaker 2: last night at nine eastern, oh and hardly you know
Speaker 2: why where's whether sanction is going to be against these
Speaker 2: people doing this? Because you're absolutely right, subversion. You can't
Speaker 2: be encouraging people to desert from the armed forces or
Speaker 2: to divide the military superiors is to particularly if you
Speaker 2: are in Congress, so I'm now launching and I hope
Speaker 2: you pick up on it, and responsibility to her because
Speaker 2: the Republicans are in charge, they have the power.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 2: I know trub was diverted by Saudi Arabia and a
Speaker 2: lot of this other business. I understand that, but he's
Speaker 2: got to get involved too as commander in chief. But
Speaker 2: these senators and congress people participated in this. They got
Speaker 2: to be able to account, Henny, they have to be.
Speaker 1: You see, I'm worried about the overall cadence pitch tone
Speaker 1: of a lot of comments that are being made. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you witness these anti ICE protesters in North Carolina
Speaker 1: screaming at ICE agents. Now, I won't go too deep
Speaker 1: into the weeds here, but we have a supremacy clause
Speaker 1: in our constitution. Federal laws are enforced. The jurisdiction lies
Speaker 1: with the federal government. And people that didn't respect our laws, borders, sovereignty,
Speaker 1: they are in the country illegally. And now we have
Speaker 1: ICE agents being docked, we have ICE agents being attacked.
Speaker 1: We've had ICE agents killed, we know, and this is
Speaker 1: what was unfolding in Charlotte, North Carolina. Let me play
Speaker 1: it for you as they're just out there doing the
Speaker 1: job that they're supposed to do. Gavin Newsom, you know,
Speaker 1: signed a law in California, although it won't go into
Speaker 1: effect until January first, they can't even cover their faces
Speaker 1: to protect themselves and their families. But of course that
Speaker 1: does not apply to California Highway Patrol, which protects Gavin.
Speaker 1: I think we should protect all law enforcement. But this
Speaker 1: is what ICE agents are facing now pretty much every day,
Speaker 1: especially in these blue cities and states. At some point,
Speaker 1: I believe this is incitement, dehumanizing, and if the American
Speaker 1: people and polling is correct, we are going to see
Speaker 1: the culture of assassination continue to grow in this country.
Speaker 1: I want you to get you take on this. Listen,
Speaker 1: threatening crowd. The whistles are from them, the bleeps because
Speaker 1: of them. But the rhetoric has been coming from all
Speaker 1: of these elected officials, the JB. Pritzers of the world,
Speaker 1: the you know, the other Democratic leaders around the country,
Speaker 1: the calling them nazi and Gestapo and all these other terms.
Speaker 1: And they're trying to do their job and basically enforce
Speaker 1: the laws of our land. And this is what they're facing.
Speaker 2: Bill Well in North Carolina it's Josh Stein, the governor,
Speaker 2: who is the problem in that particular area. Now, these,
Speaker 2: as you know, are well organized people. They're paid. These
Speaker 2: protesters who go out and harris the federal authorities, they're paid.
Speaker 3: Some are and some aren't.
Speaker 1: I mean, some people listen to leadership that calls them
Speaker 1: gestapo and they think they're doing God's will and they're
Speaker 1: standing up for what's right, and they're not.
Speaker 2: Not too many of those, Henny. What this is is
Speaker 2: organized capacities, the fanatical promo whatever green. They are very
Speaker 2: well funded. They go to certain cities where they know
Speaker 2: their operations. This one is called Charlotte's Web, and then
Speaker 2: they do they get the lists of the progressive movement
Speaker 2: and they send out be here, I'll give you a whistle.
Speaker 2: Be here, I'll give you a sign.
Speaker 3: But they're also have this app. It's nationwide. I don't
Speaker 3: mean to interrupt you.
Speaker 1: The app is tipping off illegals about pending raids, which
Speaker 1: takes away the element of surprise and puts these law
Speaker 1: enforcement officers' lives in jeopardy.
Speaker 2: Bill Okay, so the people that are involved with that
Speaker 2: can be arrested and charged with impeding a federal investigation.
Speaker 2: And this is where past fatal and the FBI come in.
Speaker 2: So this goes right back to what we were talking about,
Speaker 2: the people who went out and told the military to
Speaker 2: defy orders. There's accountability that can happen. So you in
Speaker 2: fear of the federal investigation around up of undocumented people,
Speaker 2: you can be charged with a crime, a federal crime.
Speaker 2: So that should be done. That is the way you
Speaker 2: combat this, not on cable TV, not on debates, not
Speaker 2: on polarizing rhetoric. You take the action that you can take.
Speaker 2: Because these actions were built in so the founding fathers
Speaker 2: understood there was going to be very fierce descent in America,
Speaker 2: so that they layered the justice system to prevent violent anarchy.
Speaker 2: But we're not enforcing those laws now. We're not enforcing
Speaker 2: them in Congress, and we're not enforcing them in Charlotte,
Speaker 2: North Carolina. That is the solution to this problem.
Speaker 1: I would like to think that people would understand the
Speaker 1: atmosphere we're living in, but I guess that's just a
Speaker 1: fantasy on my part to think that people will be
Speaker 1: logical and reasonable and thoughtful.
Speaker 3: I'll give you one example, Bill.
Speaker 1: I mean, I might have my disagreements with people, but
Speaker 1: I'm not calling them Nazis, Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, fascist, racist.
Speaker 1: You know, these words are thrown around with such regularity
Speaker 1: at this point, I think it has a dehumanizing effect
Speaker 1: and there's a level of incitement behind those words. Do
Speaker 1: you agree? Now, I believe in free speech, and ultimately
Speaker 1: you hold the people that commit crimes responsible for their actions.
Speaker 1: But I do believe that it contributes to you.
Speaker 2: Yes, But I think everybody knows that by now, So
Speaker 2: I think that argument has gotten through to any American
Speaker 2: who pays attention that there is polarizing rhetoric that can
Speaker 2: lead to violence, and that rhetoric is dangerous and the
Speaker 2: people who traffic in it should be shunned. But it's
Speaker 2: not against the law unless you say I want to
Speaker 2: hurt Bill O'Reilly and I'm going to try to get
Speaker 2: them and bring him down or kill him, then he
Speaker 2: can be arrested. But if they call me Hitler or whatever,
Speaker 2: they can do that. When I'm trying to get the
Speaker 2: Republican majority invested in now because it's only one more year,
Speaker 2: they have power handling it is enforce the law, and
Speaker 2: if you're in Congress, enforce the ethics that are imposed
Speaker 2: on everybody who goes into that body, stop ignoring it,
Speaker 2: in force it. That would change the tenor of the
Speaker 2: debate and get people's attention to how serious this is?
Speaker 3: All right, Bill.
Speaker 1: O'Reilly, All things simple, man, serious times we're living in,
Speaker 1: and then, frankly, build dangerous. These are dangerous times. This
Speaker 1: rhetoric has got to stop. It's just I wish I
Speaker 1: could convince them, but I'm not having any luck. There
Speaker 1: are lunatics on all sides, unfortunately, and they poison, you know,
Speaker 1: civil society at a very high level. In my view,
Speaker 1: I think you're agree with me, mister O'Reilly. We appreciate
Speaker 1: your time, sir. I'm now to the top of the hour.
Speaker 1: We'll get right to your calls here in a second.
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Speaker 3: What is it? Linda? I say it the right way,
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Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna stop right here and just stop get
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Speaker 1: going to go through some callers. Just a quick question,
Speaker 1: then we'll put you right back on hold. If you're
Speaker 1: listening to my voice right now, don't hang up. I'm
Speaker 1: just asking you one simple question. Bruce, North Carolina. Is
Speaker 1: it sauce or is it pasta sauce?
Speaker 3: What is it? What is it?
Speaker 7: It's sauce in the South.
Speaker 3: Sounds like.
Speaker 1: You got a whole different way to say. And stay
Speaker 1: on hold. We'll get back to in the second. Bruce,
Speaker 1: Troy in New York, how do you.
Speaker 5: Say it's sauce?
Speaker 1: Bruce? All right, stay there, Troy Ron in New York,
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Speaker 2: Kay Sean?
Speaker 8: How are you I would call it? We called it
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Speaker 1: Stay right there, Ron Michael in Atlanta. Michael, how do
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Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Bruce Anthony is stay there, Michael Anthony and Rhode Island.
Speaker 3: How do you say it? Anthony, You're not gonna like
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Speaker 7: I'm from Rhode Island.
Speaker 2: It's gravy.
Speaker 3: Stay right there. All right, here's the thing. It's pasta sauce.
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Speaker 1: absolutely no added sugar, none. It's in other words, it's clean.
Speaker 1: It's like if you've ever been abroad in Italy and wow,
Speaker 1: the food is clean.
Speaker 3: I can.
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Speaker 1: the Schewan Hannity Show. Unbelievable Meones, Troy, New York, Troy,
Speaker 1: how are you glad you hung in there?
Speaker 3: Glad you called Sewan?
Speaker 5: Thanks for taking my call. Yeah, I just want to
Speaker 5: offer a few comments on the situation. I live in
Speaker 5: upstate New York. We're outside of Rochester, and of course
Speaker 5: everyone's aware now of the disasters that are unfolding in
Speaker 5: New York City with the new mayor there. But I
Speaker 5: guess I think what a lot of people who aren't
Speaker 5: from the area don't understand is that, uh, there's there's
Speaker 5: a lot of conservative folks in upstate New York and
Speaker 5: we're just as upset as everyone else is about having
Speaker 5: a communist as our as our mayor.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you the worst part is you got
Speaker 1: a governor now that is going to do everything Marxist
Speaker 1: Kami Mumdani demands because she is scared to death like
Speaker 1: Schumer's scared to death like Hakeem Jeffers is scared to death.
Speaker 1: You have a governor in name only ostensibly zoron Kami
Speaker 1: Marxist Mumdani is the governor of New York because she
Speaker 1: will do everything he says.
Speaker 5: You you hit that exactly, You're exactly right, and just
Speaker 5: the ridiculous uh policies that you know that that were
Speaker 5: forced to live under. You know that, Kathy l That's
Speaker 5: that's I guess that's what I'm getting at. It's it's
Speaker 5: frightening to think what she's going to be doing, uh
Speaker 5: now with uh with an ally uh in you know,
Speaker 5: in the mayor's office in the Big Apple.
Speaker 1: Well, she she had said she would put checks and
Speaker 1: bounces on him. But uh the DSA of America Democratic
Speaker 1: Socialists of America that helped, you know, propel Mam Donnie
Speaker 1: into office, they're like, oh, no, you're going to listen
Speaker 1: to what we say or you're out. And guess what,
Speaker 1: Mam Donnie will have the power to to sign me
Speaker 1: any re election attempt of hers.
Speaker 5: Well, you're you're right, You're absolutely right, and listen.
Speaker 1: I Linda hates when I tell the truth, truth, but
Speaker 1: I have to tell the truth.
Speaker 3: It's over New York is done.
Speaker 5: Therefore, you know, that's why people tune in to Sean Hannity,
Speaker 5: because you tell the truth, and that is the truth.
Speaker 5: I can, I can. I'll tell you.
Speaker 1: From California, I really want. I would love to see
Speaker 1: at least de Fonic win. I think she could really
Speaker 1: change the state, especially where you live upstate. But just
Speaker 1: by adding fracking. I love Steve Hilton. He would crush
Speaker 1: it in California and really change that state around. But
Speaker 1: their odds of winning are very very low. You want
Speaker 1: me to lie and tell you, you know, create false hope.
Speaker 5: I'm not doing that right right, It's yeah, it's it's
Speaker 5: kind of a dismal outlook. I think, what what a
Speaker 5: lot of people are expecting. But you know, financial analysts,
Speaker 5: he kind of miss political analysts. Is of course that
Speaker 5: this whole you know, blue sky program that Ma'm Dyning
Speaker 5: has sold everyone with you everything, free groceries, free healthcare.
Speaker 5: Of course it's going to crash and burn because there's
Speaker 5: the reality is there's no money. You know, the state's bankrupt.
Speaker 5: There's no money for all that, and she will.
Speaker 1: Go along with his tax increases. Mark my words. I
Speaker 1: feel sorry for my friends in New York. I tried
Speaker 1: to warn everybody in New York, but I inevitably knew
Speaker 1: what the outcome was going to be.
Speaker 3: I was correct.
Speaker 1: Linda was saying the day before election that Curtis was
Speaker 1: gonna win Thrual. False Linda, Oh, he's being awfully quiet
Speaker 1: at the moment. Anyway, Troy, appreciate you. Call man, God
Speaker 1: bless you. Eight hundred and ninety four one, Shawn. Our
Speaker 1: number will stay in New York.
Speaker 5: Ron.
Speaker 3: Next on the Sean Hennity Show, What's up? Ron? How
Speaker 3: are you?
Speaker 6: How you doing?
Speaker 8: Sean Connell from the Vampire State Hokals Vampire Hocus Focus,
Speaker 8: Vampire State of New York, Upstate New York, Albany.
Speaker 1: I love the people in New York, in Albany, Westchester, Nasau,
Speaker 1: Suffolk County.
Speaker 3: You guys are great.
Speaker 1: The problem is you are being Your votes are being
Speaker 1: negated by this densely popular called New York City in
Speaker 1: the five boroughs.
Speaker 8: Yep, takes all, Winter takes all, and that's what we have.
Speaker 2: Sean.
Speaker 8: I'm calling you actually about yesterday I heard you talking
Speaker 8: to a husband who's going through a divorce with his
Speaker 8: wife over politics and calling you basically to tell you
Speaker 8: my son, my pride and joy. He went to college
Speaker 8: in Western New York, left high school, total conservative, came back,
Speaker 8: totally liberalized, married, now normal situation, husband and wife. Now
Speaker 8: he doesn't talk to me because Dad is on the
Speaker 8: other side. Dad believes, you know, in reality of life,
Speaker 8: and they pushed so much liberalism towards his way. And
Speaker 8: how he's changed. It's just I don't know how to
Speaker 8: bring him back, and I don't know what to do.
Speaker 8: I mean, we don't talk anymore. It's pretty sad what
Speaker 8: politics have done to families and how it's ripped them apart.
Speaker 1: And I'm going to give you advice. I'm ready to
Speaker 1: give you advice. You want to hear it, talk to me,
Speaker 1: never ever, ever, ever give up on your children. Every week,
Speaker 1: every other week, whatever you think is appropriate. You shoot
Speaker 1: him a note, you drop a note in the mailbox.
Speaker 1: I don't care what your politics are. I'm your father,
Speaker 1: I love you, I'll always be here for you, and
Speaker 1: I want to have a relationship that transcends politics. And
Speaker 1: just keep doing it and don't stop.
Speaker 8: Sean, As you said, I've tried over and over again.
Speaker 3: It don't stop. Just never stop.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had friends of mine that children are addicted
Speaker 1: to drugs or alcohol, and I give them the same advice,
Speaker 1: and that is, never give up on your children. You
Speaker 1: just have to keep fighting for them. Now, in the
Speaker 1: case of you know, people getting a divorce, I tried
Speaker 1: to get the guy yesterday, you know, to make that outreach,
Speaker 1: but he seemed checked out. He's done and she's done.
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm not the great marriage repairer, but
Speaker 1: I will tell you my humble advice to you is
Speaker 1: never give up on your children.
Speaker 3: Just keep trying.
Speaker 1: And even if you think if, even if you think
Speaker 1: there's no hope, you never know. People's hearts change over time.
Speaker 1: And if you if you consistently show him your door
Speaker 1: is open and you want that relationship to be repaired,
Speaker 1: maybe one day he'll surprise you. Well, okay, It's like
Speaker 1: it's sort of like remember the episode in Home Alone,
Speaker 1: and remember the the neighbor that saved but Coley culk
Speaker 1: it okay, and that old man that seemed a little
Speaker 1: creepy next door turned out to be a really nice
Speaker 1: guy with a good heart, saved his life and got
Speaker 1: his family together. I hope that moment comes for you
Speaker 1: in your your life with your son. I really do
Speaker 1: it can happen. Don't give up, brother, Okay, and we're
Speaker 1: praying for you. Don't never give up. Just keep dropping notes,
Speaker 1: just keep just keep hanging in there.
Speaker 5: Thank you?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 1: Bruce in North Carolina. Next on the Sean Hannity Show. Hey, Bruce,
Speaker 1: how are you glad you called?
Speaker 6: I'm great man?
Speaker 3: Are I'm good? Brother? What's going on?
Speaker 5: Hey?
Speaker 7: I wanted to discuss the redistricting problems, you know, the
Speaker 7: Texas the court decision against Texas, and what California is
Speaker 7: trying to do. And here in North Carolina we've been
Speaker 7: living with it for forty years. There's probably been more
Speaker 7: than one hundred lawsuits filed over that time about districts,
Speaker 7: and to me, the only solution is to have a
Speaker 7: computer drawing to where you know, there's no basis of
Speaker 7: race or party, or sex or income or anything else.
Speaker 7: It's just how many people live here and this is
Speaker 7: the number of people that go per district. We actually,
Speaker 7: I actually wrote a program and offered to give it
Speaker 7: to the state ten years ago, and of course they
Speaker 7: weren't interested in if they want the political power that
Speaker 7: comes with it. But something needs to be done. Unfortunately.
Speaker 7: You know, the states can pass this on their own,
Speaker 7: but to require them to do it would meet a
Speaker 7: constitutional amendment. So you're kind of left out in the
Speaker 7: dark in those states where you have one party in
Speaker 7: primary control.
Speaker 1: Listen, I, I there are a million ways to do
Speaker 1: it differently. The Democrats have mastered the art of partisan redistricting.
Speaker 1: Republicans are just kind of getting into the game. I'm
Speaker 1: not worried about a lower court ruling like the one
Speaker 1: in Texas today, because it's going to go to higher courts.
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about California. Pam Bondi announced she's taking
Speaker 1: on Gavin Newsom's power grab out there. But this cherry
Speaker 1: Mandarin game that both parties have played, but the Democrats
Speaker 1: have played a lot harder and a lot better than Republicans.
Speaker 1: It's got to be neutralized, and it's got to be fair,
Speaker 1: and it's got to be across the board, and we
Speaker 1: need standards. When I lived in Atlanta, there was one
Speaker 1: district that went all the way from Atlanta to Savannah.
Speaker 1: It was like it was like a if you looked
Speaker 1: at on a map, it was like a snake line district.
Speaker 1: It was sort of like wiggled all the way down
Speaker 1: to Savannah, you know, finding every Democratic home. At the time,
Speaker 1: I believe it was Cynthia mcainy that had that district.
Speaker 1: And it is what it is.
Speaker 3: It just is.
Speaker 1: It has to be done better, just like election integrity
Speaker 1: has to be done better, you know, voter ID signature verification,
Speaker 1: chain of custody controls, updated voter rolls, partisan observers watching
Speaker 1: the voting all day, vote counting all night. And I
Speaker 1: prefer paper ballots and very limited mail in ballots, you know.
Speaker 1: But Republicans got to get moving on a lot of
Speaker 1: this stuff. They've been behind the eight ball. And I
Speaker 1: would argue Republicans maybe down as many as twelve fifteen
Speaker 1: seats based just on Democratic gerrymandering.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Ten ten years ago, we had two unusual districts here.
Speaker 7: One stretched from Durham down to Charlotte following eighty five
Speaker 7: and the other there was a place in it whether
Speaker 7: it have to be contiguous, and there was a place
Speaker 7: on a river where the only way you could be
Speaker 7: in that district was to live on a house boat.
Speaker 7: In person, they followed the bank of the river to
Speaker 7: make contiguous.
Speaker 3: And well, the repult that's not a shock, you know.
Speaker 7: It's just it's just amazing that we keep fighting over
Speaker 7: it when there's a solution to cure it.
Speaker 1: All I can. I can't argue with anything you're saying.
Speaker 1: You're one hundred percent right, and I wish you success
Speaker 1: in trying to be fair.
Speaker 3: Bruce. We appreciate you call.
Speaker 1: Let's get back to our busy phones eight hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety four one Sean if you want to join us
Speaker 1: as we continue. Michael is in Atlanta. What's up, Michael?
Speaker 1: How are you on?
Speaker 5: How are you doing?
Speaker 3: I'm good, sir, Glad you called great.
Speaker 6: I just wanted to talk about the Palisades fires. And
Speaker 6: I'm originally from Los Angeles. I grew up in the
Speaker 6: Brentwood Palisades area, and I spent a lot of years
Speaker 6: of my youth up in the Palisades village that now
Speaker 6: just burned down, uh, with classmates and friends. And the
Speaker 6: only reason why I actually came to Georgia was to
Speaker 6: go to college at the University of Georgia back in
Speaker 6: ninety one, and that when I got out of school,
Speaker 6: moved into Atlanta with the Olympics and life would take over.
Speaker 6: And I've been here ever since. Although I've always wanted
Speaker 6: to move back to LA and back to Brentwood, but
Speaker 6: as you know, the cost of living has been so
Speaker 6: out of control, and the politics has been out of
Speaker 6: just unseemly, and so I've been here. But the reason
Speaker 6: why I was calling is just to give you a
Speaker 6: perspective of what was happening when I was growing up.
Speaker 6: The LA Fire Department would actually go up and down
Speaker 6: streets during the summertime and during the Santa Ana conditions
Speaker 6: in the late fall looking for dry brush. They would
Speaker 6: water it down, they would make sure that the fire
Speaker 6: hydrants were working, and they would clean out all of
Speaker 6: the brush. They would also water down some of the
Speaker 6: I guess the dry foliage that could catch on fire.
Speaker 6: And they did all these things. You've talked about many
Speaker 6: times about the forestation and the signs behind it and whatever,
Speaker 6: and they did all these things. But this whole cover
Speaker 6: up that Gavin Newsom is doing and Karen Bass I
Speaker 6: think it's just just terrible and I'm really broken hearted
Speaker 6: about it.
Speaker 1: You should be broken hearted. I mean, welcome to the
Speaker 1: United Socialist Utopia of California, sir. That's what you get
Speaker 1: out there. I'd stay right where you are in Atlanta,