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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. I was watching your TV share last night.

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Speaker 3: Why do you have to lie?

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Speaker 2: Because that would be boring.

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Speaker 2: A story about these conresspeople who put out a social

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Speaker 1: Democratic lawmakers pushing for our military to disobey orders, our

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Speaker 4: You can refuse illegal orders. You can refuse illegal orders.

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Speaker 2: Not too many of those, Henny. What this is is

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Speaker 1: O'Reilly, All things simple, man, serious times we're living in,

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Speaker 1: Thank God for my friend Peter Harris's family. They build

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Speaker 3: Talk about it. She doesn't say it the right way?

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Speaker 5: Say it's sauce?

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Speaker 1: Stay right there, Ron Michael in Atlanta. Michael, how do

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Speaker 3: Glad you called Sewan?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you the worst part is you got

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Speaker 5: You you hit that exactly, You're exactly right, and just

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Speaker 1: Well, she she had said she would put checks and

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Speaker 5: Well, you're you're right, You're absolutely right, and listen.

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Speaker 3: It's over New York is done.

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Speaker 5: Therefore, you know, that's why people tune in to Sean Hannity,

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Speaker 3: I was correct.

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Speaker 1: Linda was saying the day before election that Curtis was

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Speaker 1: bless you. Eight hundred and ninety four one, Shawn. Our

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Speaker 5: Ron.

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Speaker 3: Next on the Sean Hennity Show, What's up? Ron? How

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Speaker 6: How you doing?

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Speaker 8: Sean Connell from the Vampire State Hokals Vampire Hocus Focus,

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Speaker 8: Vampire State of New York, Upstate New York, Albany.

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Speaker 1: I love the people in New York, in Albany, Westchester, Nasau,

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Speaker 3: You guys are great.

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Speaker 1: The problem is you are being Your votes are being

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Speaker 8: Yep, takes all, Winter takes all, and that's what we have.

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Speaker 2: Sean.

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Speaker 8: I'm calling you actually about yesterday I heard you talking

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Speaker 8: I mean, we don't talk anymore. It's pretty sad what

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Speaker 1: And I'm going to give you advice. I'm ready to

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Speaker 1: never ever, ever, ever give up on your children. Every week,

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Speaker 1: I don't care what your politics are. I'm your father,

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Speaker 8: Sean, As you said, I've tried over and over again.

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Speaker 3: It don't stop. Just never stop.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had friends of mine that children are addicted

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Speaker 3: Just keep trying.

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Speaker 1: And even if you think if, even if you think

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Speaker 1: praying for you. Don't never give up. Just keep dropping notes,

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Speaker 5: Thank you?

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Speaker 1: how are you glad you called?

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Speaker 6: I'm great man?

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Speaker 3: Are I'm good? Brother? What's going on?

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Speaker 7: It's just how many people live here and this is

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Speaker 7: I actually wrote a program and offered to give it

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Speaker 7: to the state ten years ago, and of course they

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Speaker 7: weren't interested in if they want the political power that

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Speaker 7: comes with it. But something needs to be done. Unfortunately.

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Speaker 7: You know, the states can pass this on their own,

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Speaker 7: but to require them to do it would meet a

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Speaker 7: constitutional amendment. So you're kind of left out in the

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Speaker 7: dark in those states where you have one party in

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Speaker 7: primary control.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I, I there are a million ways to do

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Speaker 1: it differently. The Democrats have mastered the art of partisan redistricting.

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Speaker 1: Republicans are just kind of getting into the game. I'm

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Speaker 1: not worried about a lower court ruling like the one

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Speaker 1: in Texas today, because it's going to go to higher courts.

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Speaker 1: I'm not worried about California. Pam Bondi announced she's taking

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Speaker 1: on Gavin Newsom's power grab out there. But this cherry

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Speaker 1: Mandarin game that both parties have played, but the Democrats

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Speaker 1: have played a lot harder and a lot better than Republicans.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be neutralized, and it's got to be fair,

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Speaker 1: and it's got to be across the board, and we

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Speaker 1: need standards. When I lived in Atlanta, there was one

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Speaker 1: district that went all the way from Atlanta to Savannah.

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Speaker 1: It was like it was like a if you looked

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Speaker 1: at on a map, it was like a snake line district.

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Speaker 1: It was sort of like wiggled all the way down

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Speaker 1: to Savannah, you know, finding every Democratic home. At the time,

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Speaker 1: I believe it was Cynthia mcainy that had that district.

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Speaker 1: And it is what it is.

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Speaker 3: It just is.

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Speaker 1: It has to be done better, just like election integrity

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Speaker 1: has to be done better, you know, voter ID signature verification,

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Speaker 1: chain of custody controls, updated voter rolls, partisan observers watching

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Speaker 1: the voting all day, vote counting all night. And I

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Speaker 1: prefer paper ballots and very limited mail in ballots, you know.

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Speaker 1: But Republicans got to get moving on a lot of

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Speaker 1: this stuff. They've been behind the eight ball. And I

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Speaker 1: would argue Republicans maybe down as many as twelve fifteen

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Ten ten years ago, we had two unusual districts here.

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Speaker 7: One stretched from Durham down to Charlotte following eighty five

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Speaker 7: and the other there was a place in it whether

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Speaker 7: it have to be contiguous, and there was a place

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Speaker 7: on a river where the only way you could be

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Speaker 7: in that district was to live on a house boat.

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Speaker 7: In person, they followed the bank of the river to

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Speaker 7: make contiguous.

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Speaker 3: And well, the repult that's not a shock, you know.

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Speaker 7: It's just it's just amazing that we keep fighting over

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Speaker 7: it when there's a solution to cure it.

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Speaker 1: All I can. I can't argue with anything you're saying.

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Speaker 1: You're one hundred percent right, and I wish you success

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Speaker 1: in trying to be fair.

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Speaker 3: Bruce. We appreciate you call.

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Speaker 1: Let's get back to our busy phones eight hundred and

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Speaker 1: ninety four one Sean if you want to join us

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Speaker 1: as we continue. Michael is in Atlanta. What's up, Michael?

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Speaker 1: How are you on?

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Speaker 5: How are you doing?

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Speaker 3: I'm good, sir, Glad you called great.

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Speaker 6: I just wanted to talk about the Palisades fires. And

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Speaker 6: I'm originally from Los Angeles. I grew up in the

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Speaker 6: Brentwood Palisades area, and I spent a lot of years

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Speaker 6: of my youth up in the Palisades village that now

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Speaker 6: just burned down, uh, with classmates and friends. And the

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Speaker 6: only reason why I actually came to Georgia was to

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Speaker 6: go to college at the University of Georgia back in

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Speaker 6: ninety one, and that when I got out of school,

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Speaker 6: moved into Atlanta with the Olympics and life would take over.

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Speaker 6: And I've been here ever since. Although I've always wanted

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Speaker 6: to move back to LA and back to Brentwood, but

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Speaker 6: as you know, the cost of living has been so

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Speaker 6: out of control, and the politics has been out of

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Speaker 6: just unseemly, and so I've been here. But the reason

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Speaker 6: why I was calling is just to give you a

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Speaker 6: perspective of what was happening when I was growing up.

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Speaker 6: The LA Fire Department would actually go up and down

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Speaker 6: streets during the summertime and during the Santa Ana conditions

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Speaker 6: in the late fall looking for dry brush. They would

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Speaker 6: water it down, they would make sure that the fire

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Speaker 6: hydrants were working, and they would clean out all of

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Speaker 6: the brush. They would also water down some of the

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Speaker 6: I guess the dry foliage that could catch on fire.

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Speaker 6: And they did all these things. You've talked about many

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Speaker 6: times about the forestation and the signs behind it and whatever,

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Speaker 6: and they did all these things. But this whole cover

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Speaker 6: up that Gavin Newsom is doing and Karen Bass I

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Speaker 6: think it's just just terrible and I'm really broken hearted

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Speaker 6: about it.

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Speaker 1: You should be broken hearted. I mean, welcome to the

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Speaker 1: United Socialist Utopia of California, sir. That's what you get

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Speaker 1: out there. I'd stay right where you are in Atlanta,