Speaker 1: Will, I worked with Nicole Sullivan this.
Speaker 2: Week Oh isn't she the best?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: My gosh. So you worked with her on Kim Possible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you guys actually got to be in the room together,
Speaker 1: right you, John DiMaggio and Nicole and Nicole.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were the three amigos for a long time.
Speaker 1: And you and I were together at a convention in Austin.
Speaker 1: And so when I got back to work on Monday,
Speaker 1: I told her, I said, by the way, I was
Speaker 1: in Austin this weekend with Wilfredell. And she just lit up.
Speaker 1: She was like, Oh, isn't he the best? That's so fun. Oh,
Speaker 1: and then she started telling me stories about the three
Speaker 1: of you guys, and you know, just how funny were
Speaker 1: and all of this stuff. And I was like, I know.
Speaker 1: And then she goes, how do you know Will?
Speaker 4: Well, Will and I were on Boy Meets World together,
Speaker 4: And I thought of you guys because she said you
Speaker 4: were on.
Speaker 1: Boy Meets World.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I said, finely.
Speaker 1: She said, to be fair, I've never seen Boy Meets World.
Speaker 1: She said, I'm a little I'm a little too old
Speaker 1: for it. She said, So I don't know anyone who's
Speaker 1: on that show. But I it was just it was
Speaker 1: so funny. But yeah, it was really great. I got
Speaker 1: to direct her on Vamporina and she was an absolute joy.
Speaker 2: So she's awesome. She's super funny and like you go
Speaker 2: back and you watch some of the old Mad TVs
Speaker 2: that she was on. Oh man, she was just killing. Yeah.
Speaker 2: She's very very funny and uh, super fun to work with. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So what was she on Kim Possible? I've never seen
Speaker 5: she was.
Speaker 2: She go, she's the main bad lady, and so she
Speaker 2: was Dracken, Draken's right hand, you know, who's supposed to
Speaker 2: be the sidekick, but it's actually running the show because
Speaker 2: because John DiMaggio's Drakeen is just such an idiot. And
Speaker 2: she was Oh god, she was just she was so funny. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it was always because Christy Carlson Romano, who played Kim,
Speaker 2: was at school.
Speaker 1: They said she that's what Nicole said. Nicole said she
Speaker 1: was a teenager. So she was never with you guys.
Speaker 2: Never with us. She was always there. We'd occasionally phone
Speaker 2: patch with her, but rarely. And then Kim Possible might
Speaker 2: arguably be the show that I was on that had
Speaker 2: the greatest guest stars of all time that I never
Speaker 2: got a chance to be. I mean it was like
Speaker 2: Ricardo Montalbondjeane Smart, I mean, all these incredible people, Riders Strong.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say I did a few episodes, but
Speaker 5: I did them from New York remotely, so I was
Speaker 5: a loan in a room with no other actors and
Speaker 5: I never watched the show.
Speaker 2: So still yeah, yeah, Elliott Gould played my dad. I mean,
Speaker 2: like the most amazing cast and never got to meet
Speaker 2: any of them. It was it was John Nicole and myself.
Speaker 1: Why don't we do Kim Possible? Rewatch episode? Why don't
Speaker 1: we watch an episode?
Speaker 2: The writer was on, I would love to I would
Speaker 2: love to be let's do that as a place, play
Speaker 2: brick that brick.
Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, rick or something like that was the
Speaker 5: Bullie high school jock dude. I just remember going in
Speaker 5: and it's like, so, how do you what kind of voice?
Speaker 5: They were like, uh, maybe a slight keanu And I
Speaker 5: was like okay, and they're like, yeah, that's it.
Speaker 6: Perfect, Oh my gosh. Basically mean the hired writer and
Speaker 6: then said could you be a jock? Yeah, that's real
Speaker 6: talent if you were able to pull out that's a
Speaker 6: real talent again, I played a mega nerd. What are
Speaker 6: the chances of that? Who's gonna tell him? I'm gonna
Speaker 6: tell him.
Speaker 2: I don't get. What's happening is I'm in my childhood
Speaker 2: bedroom and here's ron.
Speaker 3: Stap me, ron STAPs right here.
Speaker 2: He's also behind me right there. I'm trying to decorate
Speaker 2: through himselves, not just pink Floyd posters.
Speaker 3: And.
Speaker 1: Doul Well is trying to redecorate his childhood bedroom. So
Speaker 1: there are toys. He'd be added toys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he brought to look right. You wanted to look good.
Speaker 2: It can't just be Marilyn Monroe and fake grenade.
Speaker 1: You can't just have to fake grenade.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, what's it? Hey grenade?
Speaker 1: Let's go in?
Speaker 2: No, I got it ready.
Speaker 1: Welcome to vond Meats World.
Speaker 2: I'm Danielle Fischel, I'm right or Strong, and I'm Wilfordell.
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Speaker 7: my new podcast, get your head in the game, and
Speaker 7: let's go back to where it all began.
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Speaker 1: Before Michael Jacob's co created Boy Meets World, putting three
Speaker 1: young actors on a trajectory that would lead to a
Speaker 1: weird rewatch podcast. More than thirty years later, he had
Speaker 1: already berthed some of the biggest sitcoms on television and
Speaker 1: some of the less big. He first broke out with
Speaker 1: My Two Dads, a runaway hit with Paul Reiser, Greg
Speaker 1: Evigan and a young Stacy Keenan. Then he ran into
Speaker 1: some roadblocks with shows like Singer and Sons and The
Speaker 1: Torkulsns or Almost Home If You're Nasty. And then there
Speaker 1: was Dinosaurs, an absolutely unhinged puppet show that included one
Speaker 1: of the most shocking series finales of all time. But
Speaker 1: included in this resume of pre Boy Meets World programs
Speaker 1: was the show that really put Michael on the map,
Speaker 1: helping pell him into one of the most sought after
Speaker 1: showrunners of his day. It was Charles in Charge. The
Speaker 1: show ran on CBS for just one season, but found
Speaker 1: a home in syndication for three years and over one
Speaker 1: hundred episodes, putting our guest this Week on millions of
Speaker 1: TV sets in the nineties and cementing her as many
Speaker 1: of our listeners first crush. She was also seen.
Speaker 2: Wait, I'm sorry, I'm stopping you right in the middle there,
Speaker 2: and I never stopped you during your intros. But it
Speaker 2: only was on a network for one season before went
Speaker 2: his syndication.
Speaker 5: And then they recast it, so I think after the
Speaker 5: first season only Scott Bayos. Wow.
Speaker 1: So then everybody else leased the entire family.
Speaker 2: Like Willie Aim like all that none of them were
Speaker 2: on the first season.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 5: Yeah, as far as I know, that's the story is
Speaker 5: that he comes back to be the because he was
Speaker 5: like a manny right music, a Danny or whatever, and
Speaker 5: the second season was him coming in. It was a
Speaker 5: whole different family and he was surprised and then yeah.
Speaker 1: Find out more.
Speaker 2: Sorry interrupting Danielle, but had had to figure that out.
Speaker 8: Geez.
Speaker 1: She was also seen on TJ Hooker, Who's the Boss,
Speaker 1: Married with children and the time capsule of a movie
Speaker 1: Blown Away, which I will ask her about today. But
Speaker 1: many of you might remember her from a little worldwide
Speaker 1: phenomenon called Baywatch, a show will watched for the compelling scripts, right.
Speaker 2: Well, it's amazing. Absolutely. I didn't even find out it
Speaker 2: took place on a beach until like season three.
Speaker 1: She played Lifeguards Summer Quinn from nineteen ninety two to
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four, a time of her life. She recently
Speaker 1: unpacked for the documentary after Baywatch Moment in the Sun,
Speaker 1: a film she also produced, and she still found time
Speaker 1: to be an inspiration for women everywhere when she disclosed
Speaker 1: her battle with stage two breast cancer in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: documenting the ups and downs of her journey on social
Speaker 1: media and on her podcast Perfectly Twisted. All this and
Speaker 1: she appeared on an episode of Boy Meets World this week.
Speaker 1: We are thrilled to welcome to Pod meets World. Love
Speaker 1: Nicole Eggert. You everything, you look great, you sound great.
Speaker 3: You thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: So excited.
Speaker 3: I literally got COVID for the first time, the first
Speaker 3: time ever.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the club.
Speaker 3: It's like I've been on the outs of this club.
Speaker 3: I was like, what are the protocols? Do I call everybody?
Speaker 3: Or is this just like nobody gives anymore?
Speaker 2: Pretty much it's the latter, pretty much.
Speaker 3: How are you feeling fine? I mean, listen, it's like
Speaker 3: I'm a mom. We we just like I didn't even
Speaker 3: catch it or even think to test till like the
Speaker 3: tail end of it, Like until I was like, why
Speaker 3: is my nose literally trying to leave my face?
Speaker 1: Like like those of my eyeballs.
Speaker 3: Were trying to like something off. So I before I
Speaker 3: went in for an allergic reaction, I was like, let
Speaker 3: me do it contest, and I got a positive. So
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, so funny.
Speaker 1: Well, welcome, like Will said, welcome to the Uh, it's
Speaker 1: only five years. I mean you didn't.
Speaker 3: I know, I didn't think I was. I thought I
Speaker 3: was immune to it. I was like, but you know
Speaker 3: it got me.
Speaker 1: Well, we are so happy to have you here with us.
Speaker 1: We always like to start with people's origin story. And
Speaker 1: I know you grew up in Glendale and so depending
Speaker 1: on traffic, it's only a short or long trip to Hollywood.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: And your mom was a talent agent, right, Yes, she
Speaker 3: became a talent agent. Later I was born in Glendale
Speaker 3: and then because that's where my mother was living and ooh,
Speaker 3: she got pregnant out of wedlock, which I didn't discover
Speaker 3: till way later too. That was still like such a
Speaker 3: taboo in their eyes. And my dad was living in Hollywood,
Speaker 3: my mom was living in Glendale, and he built a
Speaker 3: home in Huntington Beach. So it's like when two years old,
Speaker 3: I moved to Huntington Beach where, yeah, I had most
Speaker 3: of my childhood there, and then coming up to LA
Speaker 3: which that is not that's not easy.
Speaker 1: I also grew up in Orange County and that is
Speaker 1: not a quick trip.
Speaker 3: No, especially when you're a kid and you're like there's
Speaker 3: so many other what you think is important things to
Speaker 3: be doing and sitting on the freeway. So that was tough. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So I pretty early on I started getting an apartment
Speaker 3: in Universal City and Studio City because I was like,
Speaker 3: I can't do this drive all the time. This isn't fair.
Speaker 1: That makes sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish the drive was from Glenville.
Speaker 1: That would have been significantly better. So did you start
Speaker 1: in beauty pageants and then make your way over to entertainment?
Speaker 1: How did that happen?
Speaker 3: That absolutely happened. And it's so crazy because I was
Speaker 3: that kid that like would dig big holes and play,
Speaker 3: you know, climb trees, and I just wasn't the beauty
Speaker 3: pageant type. And my mom my parents were both immigrants
Speaker 3: from Europe and they grew up during World War Two
Speaker 3: and they were living in southern California and my mom
Speaker 3: suddenly found herself a housewife and heard about these local
Speaker 3: beauty pageants and was like, you, you're gonna do those. And
Speaker 3: so the trade off was that we could go to
Speaker 3: these venues and I would be able to just enjoy
Speaker 3: a day at the pool because I was obsessed with
Speaker 3: swimming pools. I still am. And that was the trade off.
Speaker 3: I would do the beauty pageants if I got to
Speaker 3: enjoy the pool.
Speaker 1: That's so cute.
Speaker 3: And so we did, and yeah, but I was like
Speaker 3: not interested at all in these beauty pageants. Hated them.
Speaker 3: And I won and I just kept winning, which meant
Speaker 3: we kept going back. Right.
Speaker 1: You didn't realize that if you really wanted your mom
Speaker 1: to stop this, you needed to fail with them.
Speaker 2: Exactly. I tried.
Speaker 3: I tried my damnedest.
Speaker 2: Yet Yeah, little miss don't want.
Speaker 1: To be here, Yeah, little miss go brush your hair.
Speaker 3: And yeah, so I kept winning and I made it
Speaker 3: to Miss Little Missus Universe, and Miss Universe at the
Speaker 3: time was like this big televised network show and and
Speaker 3: I had my first television appearance and then the phone
Speaker 3: started ringing and my mom was like, and we're going
Speaker 3: to do this, and that's that's.
Speaker 2: How I'll be getting How old are you at this
Speaker 2: point or four or five years old? Yes, she even
Speaker 2: really remembers.
Speaker 1: Universe Petite Division at age five. Yes. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh, in all fairness, that was a way easy year
Speaker 2: that you won.
Speaker 3: Let's be honest, the competition wasn't that.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Okay. So soon after you win, you know,
Speaker 1: Miss Petite Universe, you're starring in commercials by age eight,
Speaker 1: and you're in movies with Cheryl Ladd and Jacqueline Bissett
Speaker 1: and Candice Bergen. Were you having fun once you started
Speaker 1: doing commercials in TV or did you feel the same
Speaker 1: way you did about pageants?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 3: I actually had fun because, and I'm sure you can
Speaker 3: relate to this, like as a kid in doing commercials
Speaker 3: was so fun because you got to see all the products.
Speaker 3: At least for me, I seeing all the products early
Speaker 3: and like getting your hands on them, especially the toys,
Speaker 3: and like I did a ton of Mattel, you know,
Speaker 3: So I like had all the barbies and to me,
Speaker 3: that was just like amazing, just the most amazing thing.
Speaker 3: So and I didn't really know any different, Like I
Speaker 3: didn't know I was supposed to be, you know, in kindergarten.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Were you in traditional school at it at the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, in Huntington Beach, And so we would go
Speaker 3: back and forth. And it wasn't until I was, you know,
Speaker 3: had a series regular that we got pulled and I
Speaker 3: made the definitive choice to move because I couldn't. You know,
Speaker 3: people don't understand what kids go through with school work.
Speaker 3: And then that transportation on top of it, that commute
Speaker 3: was just too much. So yeah, I was going back
Speaker 3: and forth and back and forth until about thirteen years old.
Speaker 1: You're right, that is a lot. No, I loved it.
Speaker 3: I loved it. I was like I didn't have to
Speaker 3: be in school. We got to just like hang out
Speaker 3: and play with toys, and to me, it was just
Speaker 3: I was having a good time.
Speaker 1: Do you remember your audition for Charles in Charge?
Speaker 3: Well, the thing is is that I didn't really audition
Speaker 3: for it because I had auditioned for Alberton so many
Speaker 3: times for so many shows, and he had always said,
Speaker 3: we're going to find something for you. We're going to
Speaker 3: find something. And when Charles in charge came across his desk,
Speaker 3: he called and he said, Okay, I think I have
Speaker 3: the show. This is the show for you. And so
Speaker 3: then I met with Michael Jacobs and then yeah, and
Speaker 3: the rest was sort of history. So it was sort
Speaker 3: of Alberton had his eye out for it.
Speaker 1: Okay, he knew he wanted you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd already done all the weird things Alberton would
Speaker 3: ask you to do, like headstand in audition when you
Speaker 3: guys are younger, so you didn't go through that process.
Speaker 3: But Albert, like you would audition for everything that crossed
Speaker 3: his desk, and he would he once he already knew
Speaker 3: what like you're acting, he would have you just do
Speaker 3: weird things like can you do a headstand? Can you
Speaker 3: do a handstand? Can you like? It was just the weirdest.
Speaker 1: He was very He was a bizarre guy.
Speaker 3: And so I had gone through, you know, fifty of
Speaker 3: those auditions already, so we were well exactly.
Speaker 1: He had already checked off on your headstand, your hand handstand,
Speaker 1: and your acting. You were good to go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd done all the weird bits all. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So when you got the role of Charles in Charge?
Speaker 2: Because in Danielle's intro, so I'm the television junkie of
Speaker 2: the group. And was it two different shows? Was Charles
Speaker 2: in Charge something for one season? And then it changed
Speaker 2: and they recast it for a second season? Now, were
Speaker 2: you on from the Pie or how did the show change?
Speaker 2: Because I didn't know anything about this. I thought it
Speaker 2: was just one show the entire way through, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, it was a network show that did one season
Speaker 3: and was canceled and syndication was becoming, you know, the
Speaker 3: new thing. So that's it was. It was their hand
Speaker 3: at doing a syndicated run, and so they recast everything
Speaker 3: and so we away. They run in a new family
Speaker 3: and it was the Pembrokes and then it was the Powals,
Speaker 3: And yeah, they just made this switch. It was ironically
Speaker 3: the same thing that happened with Baywatch. And that's how
Speaker 3: I because Alberton got me involved with bay Watch and
Speaker 3: we made that crossover because they were a syndicated show.
Speaker 3: I mean, they were a network show. Did one season,
Speaker 3: got canceled and wanted to do the syndication route and
Speaker 3: came to Alburton and he said, Okay, well let's do it.
Speaker 3: I'll help you and use Nicole and we'll do a spinoff.
Speaker 3: And we were going to do like a nine to
Speaker 3: two one zero type of thing at the beach. And
Speaker 3: that's how I got rolled right into Baywatch from Charles
Speaker 3: in Charge. So yes, it was this formula they had going.
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Speaker 1: Now, do you remember feeling a lot of pressure about
Speaker 1: Charles in Charge, Like feeling that there was just a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on your shoulders? Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 3: You know, interesting because at that age you kind of
Speaker 3: I didn't really take on that kind of pressure of like,
Speaker 3: this is a show now that they want it to
Speaker 3: be a success. It failed once they wanted to be
Speaker 3: a success, and I didn't really feel that kind of pressure.
Speaker 3: I started it right around the first day that I
Speaker 3: was supposed to start high school, so it was sort
Speaker 3: of that was more on my mind as a young teenager,
Speaker 3: like am I making the right decision to go and
Speaker 3: be on a show rather than go have the high
Speaker 3: school experience? That was more of the pressure that I
Speaker 3: was feeling.
Speaker 1: And looking back on it, now, do you think you
Speaker 1: made Do you feel like you made a good choice,
Speaker 1: or do you feel like you missed out on a
Speaker 1: high school experience?
Speaker 3: You know, I really kind of lived with no regrets,
Speaker 3: and I wouldn't be where I'm at if I didn't
Speaker 3: make all of these And it turns out Charles in
Speaker 3: Charge was really a great and a really horrible experience
Speaker 3: for me and for a lot of the cast in general.
Speaker 3: So you know, there's that part of it. But again,
Speaker 3: would I change it? I don't really live like that.
Speaker 3: I kind of think we take everything that we messed
Speaker 3: up and we learned from it and it makes us
Speaker 3: better and smarter and more whole.
Speaker 1: Well, we didn't none of us met Michael until nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety three. Can you tell us what your memory of
Speaker 1: working with Michael Jacobs was like, We're curious if he
Speaker 1: was ever any different than the Michael we knew, or
Speaker 1: if he was always the same Michael.
Speaker 3: Well interesting because I you know, when he was very
Speaker 3: high energy, always like the high energy was there. He
Speaker 3: wasn't as involved in Charles and Charge as he was
Speaker 3: Boy Meets World. He sort of was there in the
Speaker 3: beginning set it up, said how he wanted it to
Speaker 3: go and flow and gave us all a lot of
Speaker 3: direction and then sort of left it in everybody else's hands.
Speaker 3: And not until I met him again for Boy Meets World,
Speaker 3: and I felt he was a little bit more. I felt
Speaker 3: like and it might have been the timing too, and
Speaker 3: that particular episode, because I also looking back at it
Speaker 3: leading up to this, there was a lot of a
Speaker 3: lot of changes maybe happening on the show. I mean,
Speaker 3: correct me if I'm wrong. You guys were there and
Speaker 3: he was saying a lot of things to me and
Speaker 3: at me, and I really didn't I couldn't understand what.
Speaker 1: Like, what do you want to follow?
Speaker 3: I had a heart, eye struggled. I couldn't follow, and
Speaker 3: I was hearing him and I wanted to understand him,
Speaker 3: but I ended up just really feeling confused, and my
Speaker 3: part that was supposed to be an arc on Boy
Speaker 3: Meet's World got cut really short because he's like, you're
Speaker 3: not giving me what I want. And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm really struggling to understand what it is you want
Speaker 3: for me. And it was making me just uncomfortable in
Speaker 3: the role, to be honest, because I felt really lost.
Speaker 3: I was like, I didn't have creative like license at all,
Speaker 3: and I was trying to be what what he what
Speaker 3: I thought I heard him saying, but I couldn't and
Speaker 3: it just it was really like it was just a
Speaker 3: failed a failed attempt for me. So I had a
Speaker 3: lot of disconnect with him. On when it was Boys
Speaker 3: Meets World Wars Charles in Charge, I think that I
Speaker 3: was I was giving him what he wanted with that
Speaker 3: character and it was fine. Everything was like smooth sailing.
Speaker 3: So it was two very different experiences with him.
Speaker 5: So was he not show running Charles in Charge? Was
Speaker 5: he not like their every note session and oh wow?
Speaker 3: No no, no, not hands on like that at all.
Speaker 3: Only in the beginning the first couple episodes and then
Speaker 3: he left.
Speaker 2: Who took over?
Speaker 3: Well, it really was Al Burton was like the guy right.
Speaker 1: Did you have any sort of creative control in Charles
Speaker 1: in Charge? Like, I know you were a teenager, but
Speaker 1: did you feel like you got to have a hand
Speaker 1: in storylines or in character development or did you really
Speaker 1: leave that to all of the adults. I felt like
Speaker 1: they did.
Speaker 3: The writers did a really great job of watching run
Speaker 3: throughs and letting us do some ad libs like letting
Speaker 3: us be free in it and letting us be our
Speaker 3: just goofy selves and either running with it or getting
Speaker 3: an inspiration from it. I felt like it was a
Speaker 3: really happy medium of but they didn't want us going
Speaker 3: too far off script, Like I felt like I watched
Speaker 3: you guys on Boy Meets World and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: they really kind of have a little.
Speaker 1: Bit more room where I definitely did. Yeah, will definitely
Speaker 1: hit the room.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I found that fascinating. I was like, oh wow,
Speaker 3: And it was so kind of alien to me because
Speaker 3: I was like, that's we weren't. It was much more
Speaker 3: like the timing had to be like this, and once
Speaker 3: we decided on what the jokes were going to be
Speaker 3: and where they were going to land, they really wanted
Speaker 3: us to just keep it there and Scott Bayo and
Speaker 3: his father Mario really wanted a timely schedule and really
Speaker 3: wanted to be out of there by a certain time day.
Speaker 3: So it was very like, you know, don't put this up, Yeah,
Speaker 3: to say your lines, to do what's written and what
Speaker 3: we decided on and get it.
Speaker 1: Where did they have to be? Yeah, where were they going?
Speaker 3: I mean they wanted to time them off. I think
Speaker 3: they just wanted out of their is all. I really kind.
Speaker 1: Of honestly love this. I think this is great. Next
Speaker 1: the next job I have, I'm going to be like, listen,
Speaker 1: I can only work until two. We're going to have
Speaker 1: to have this wrapped up by two pm. I've got
Speaker 1: places to be. Yeah, I kid you not.
Speaker 3: I could you know. They would say if we got
Speaker 3: into the series, he would say, I want to be
Speaker 3: done by lunchtime today, Let's have this like done by lunch.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh god, well we in all fairness
Speaker 2: we had that too, as long as lunch was one
Speaker 2: am exactly. So yeah, we were we were final. I
Speaker 2: think one of the other reasons that I was given
Speaker 2: a little more leeway when you were there, especially is
Speaker 2: because we it was seventh season. I think by that
Speaker 2: point we knew that, like we we hadn't even been
Speaker 2: if memory serves, you were in kind of the first
Speaker 2: half of the season, and we weren't even picked up
Speaker 2: for by that point the full twenty two. For season seven,
Speaker 2: we got picked up I think for thirteen, and so
Speaker 2: we thought we were done, and I think by that
Speaker 2: point they were kind of like, yeah, go have fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I think it might have been that kind of
Speaker 2: vibe too a little bit. It was a little bit
Speaker 2: of senioritis for us on the set, where it was
Speaker 2: kind of like, let's play all right. This part of
Speaker 2: the script is more of a guideline than anything else,
Speaker 2: because at that point, if they were going to fire us,
Speaker 2: they were going to fire us. So I think it
Speaker 2: was more that vibe you walked into too. But I
Speaker 2: didn't know that you were supposed to be an ARC.
Speaker 2: That would have been great because I remember there was
Speaker 2: good chemistry between the three of us. I thought I
Speaker 2: didn't remember you struggling with the role at all. I
Speaker 2: remember that you and myself and Matt Lawrence. I thought
Speaker 2: the three of us were working really well together. So
Speaker 2: to hear that you were supposed to be on more
Speaker 2: than one episode is amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they wanted it to be a character
Speaker 3: in the show, and yeah, that didn't happen, And yeah,
Speaker 3: I had a great time with you guys, Like yeah,
Speaker 3: in fact, you guys were my saving grace. I was
Speaker 3: struggling at home, Like personally, I was just starting a
Speaker 3: really ugly, like custody battle with my daughter. I had
Speaker 3: a one year old at that time, and you know,
Speaker 3: things were just crazy in my personal world. And then
Speaker 3: I had Michael just like you're not giving it to me,
Speaker 3: You're not giving it to me, and I was, and
Speaker 3: you guys were just so amazing on set that it
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I probably would have lost it. I
Speaker 3: think I would have combusted if it wasn't for you
Speaker 3: guys having being so relaxed and so fun and so
Speaker 3: friendly and so welcoming and just all those good things.
Speaker 2: Well let's well, we're also just a huge fans. I
Speaker 2: mean we because it's like, you know, as as actors
Speaker 2: around the same age, we'd obviously seen your work, so
Speaker 2: we were like, oh, we get to work with Nicole.
Speaker 2: So we were psyched that you were coming on the show.
Speaker 2: So there was that kind of vibe too, where it
Speaker 2: was like, oh, this is going to be great. We
Speaker 2: can't wait. So, yeah, you hid that very well. That
Speaker 2: that I guess you weren't vibing with the character and
Speaker 2: Michael wasn't because I don't remember that.
Speaker 1: We haven't gotten to the episode yet in our rewatch,
Speaker 1: it's a season seven episode called picket Fences. Can you
Speaker 1: refresh our listener's memory and ours? Because I don't remember
Speaker 1: the episode because we're not there yet. What was your
Speaker 1: character on Boy Meets World and and what was the storyline?
Speaker 3: So she was the chancellor's daughter, Bridget Murphy, and she
Speaker 3: shows up in the student's cafe and it's like, who
Speaker 3: who are you, guys? I'm your new boss, and she
Speaker 3: sort of lays it out. She's like nepotism. My father
Speaker 3: is the chancellor, I'm your new boss. You're gonna kiss
Speaker 3: my blah blah blah blah kind of thing and kind
Speaker 3: of starts there, it ends there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought maybe I didn't remember it because I
Speaker 1: had a heart out at too. I wanted to be
Speaker 1: done by lunch and I just had to get out.
Speaker 2: Danielle was was a little miss Universe that week.
Speaker 1: The Division, the Division exactly, so she was doing that.
Speaker 2: Man, that's so funn.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean what makes me laugh too, because you
Speaker 3: guys say the beginning and it was like it was
Speaker 3: episode ten and these days like that's so that's just
Speaker 3: such a throwback to those days, like episode ten was
Speaker 3: like the first half.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right exactly. Now it's like you get four episodes,
Speaker 2: so for the entire season, Like wait a minute, what
Speaker 2: what's going on?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So, uh, twenty two a year, twenty six a year
Speaker 2: was crazy, that's so interesting.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you're right that full that's a full setup
Speaker 1: for more than one episode. You don't do a full
Speaker 1: setup like that only to be in one episode. Yeah, yeah, it.
Speaker 3: Was Yeah, I just I wasn't. I wasn't doing it
Speaker 3: for him, and he was like, you're out of here,
Speaker 3: and I feel like, also if i'm if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 3: There were some other people because there was another storyline
Speaker 3: going on, and I can't remember exactly, but maybe it
Speaker 3: was like an apartment somebody looking for an apartment, and
Speaker 3: maybe there were other characters being introduced into that Subka story.
Speaker 1: That's going to be oriented Hanga looking for an apartment. Right, look, that's.
Speaker 2: What it is, Okay, that's that's picket fences. That's why
Speaker 2: it's called picket fences is because you're looking for your
Speaker 2: white picket fence. This might be the one where you
Speaker 2: move into the really horrible, like terrible apartment and you
Speaker 2: meet the other single mom who's there. Yeah, could have
Speaker 2: been it. Yes, that's okay, So that's what it was. Okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, bells are ringing. And in Michael's defense, I think
Speaker 3: he was trying to introduce a lot of new characters
Speaker 3: in that episode. There was a lot he was trying
Speaker 3: to get.
Speaker 2: That's what you do with three episodes left of your
Speaker 2: entire series, just jamming as many characters as you pop.
Speaker 2: It's episode ten of the last thirteen. Were doing, let's
Speaker 2: introduce thirty five new characters.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well it's funny because Will earlier you said, you know,
Speaker 5: we were probably feeling comfortable or like we didn't care.
Speaker 5: But I bet you Michael was feeling a lot of
Speaker 5: pressure because I remember he was still angling for a
Speaker 5: season eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we were all kind of like ready
Speaker 2: to leave and we were like.
Speaker 5: As actors done, but I feel like he was actually
Speaker 5: still gunning, like we can keep this going, right, let's
Speaker 5: not an end. Let's not let it end here, you know,
Speaker 5: and huh.
Speaker 2: Well, does anybody know after Boy ended how long TGIF lasted?
Speaker 1: No, No, I don't either, but.
Speaker 2: I mean it wasn't on for another ten years. It
Speaker 2: was like TGIF kind of folded not too long after that, right,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I don't know. Somebody's clacking
Speaker 2: away and looking.
Speaker 3: At up right now.
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure. Well, Boy Mee's World is known
Speaker 1: for having quite a long and illustrious guest star history,
Speaker 1: but while researching Charles in Charge, I was really surprised
Speaker 1: to run into two names that you guys had as
Speaker 1: guest stars, Paul Walker and Meg Ryan. Meg Ryan did
Speaker 1: two episodes. Do you remember them being on the show
Speaker 1: or not? Now?
Speaker 3: Yes, I remember Paul very clearly because we were all
Speaker 3: the same age. And you know, when you're on a
Speaker 3: show like that and you have a guest star, you
Speaker 3: guys are all crammed into the tutor room for hours
Speaker 3: and hours on end. I believe I want to say
Speaker 3: Meg Ryan was on the like maybe the original the network.
Speaker 1: Version, so you didn't work with him? Yeah? Yeah? What
Speaker 1: was Paul Walker? Like? What do you remember? Sweet kid?
Speaker 3: You know, just a sweet, normal, very like I think
Speaker 3: he was from OC as well. Yeah, I think he was, yeah, right,
Speaker 3: and just so felt just like such a normal, down
Speaker 3: to earth and obviously before he was the Paul Walker
Speaker 3: just cute, cute as could be, so cute. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: And I was sitting there and I think he was
Speaker 3: brought on as my younger sister's love interest, and I
Speaker 3: was like, she always gets cute, why did she get him?
Speaker 2: By the way, the original run of ABC's a TGIF
Speaker 2: programming ended September eighth, two thousand. Wow.
Speaker 1: Okay, so Boy Meets World one in March or something
Speaker 1: of two thousand and pretty much was over.
Speaker 2: It was like right at the end. Yeah, and the run,
Speaker 2: I guess began September twenty second, nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 1: Oh you know what, the series finale of Boy Meets
Speaker 1: World aired on my birthday, so May fifth of two thousand,
Speaker 1: so just a few months later.
Speaker 2: There you go. Yeah, so it didn't last much longer
Speaker 2: after us, so they would have had to move us
Speaker 2: off the block to put us somewhere else to get
Speaker 2: a season eight.
Speaker 1: So yeah, wow, he was in a pressure cooker.
Speaker 3: I mean he really was, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you mentioned that Alberton then moved you from
Speaker 1: Charles in Charge basically right into Baywatch, right, Yeah, did
Speaker 1: you have any reservations about joining that show? What were
Speaker 1: your what were your thoughts going into that?
Speaker 3: You know, it was interesting because I was looking forward
Speaker 3: to doing the spinoff of it. I didn't go into
Speaker 3: it thinking what if I end up being a lifeguard
Speaker 3: on Baywatch? Right, so you know, the naive Nicole didn't
Speaker 3: think about that part. And I was leaving to go
Speaker 3: to Canada to shoot a handful of films and then
Speaker 3: I was going to come back and start Baywatch. I
Speaker 3: knew that my wardrobe was coming, my hair makeup was coming,
Speaker 3: so also very comfortable. He also put Pamela Anderson, who
Speaker 3: I had known she was on Charles in Charge and
Speaker 3: around the set a lot because she dated Scott so
Speaker 3: and I knew David Charvay already, So it felt very
Speaker 3: comfortable going into this into that, and I kind of
Speaker 3: didn't put a lot of thought into it. I was like,
Speaker 3: kind of, I'll cross that bridge when I get there.
Speaker 3: And then when I showed up on set, I kind
Speaker 3: of dawned on me. When you know, fittings were just
Speaker 3: this red bathing suit, and I was like, where are
Speaker 3: the rest?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: Jeez, oh man, where's the rest?
Speaker 3: And then the show immediately took off and it hit
Speaker 3: and it hit number one show in the world, and
Speaker 3: then they were like spin off what they were like,
Speaker 3: this formula, this is what's working, this is where we're staying.
Speaker 3: And I was like, whoa damn.
Speaker 2: Curiously, you just kind of touched on it with starting
Speaker 2: to work out. Aside from having to quote unquote look
Speaker 2: good or look the part, how physical was it to
Speaker 2: be shooting a show like this all the time?
Speaker 3: Well, it was a little bit. You know, it is
Speaker 3: running in the sand, It's like, and we're not running
Speaker 3: in slow mocean, you know, contrary to everybody's belief, you know,
Speaker 3: and they do they do dump you out off a
Speaker 3: barge in the ocean, and you do have to keep
Speaker 3: up and at least try to make like you you
Speaker 3: know what you're doing. I mean I jumped off piers.
Speaker 3: I would climb up, you know, up the ropes to
Speaker 3: get back up the pier, like we were really in
Speaker 3: the trenches. And I remember the first day on set
Speaker 3: they had me and I was a rookie trying out
Speaker 3: to be a lifeguard, and they had me and they
Speaker 3: would use real, actual lifeguards as atmosphere all the time,
Speaker 3: and we were in a race for tryouts and I
Speaker 3: was thrown in with them and they were like.
Speaker 1: Keep up, keep up, and I'm like vomiting.
Speaker 3: I was like throwing up, like trying to run into
Speaker 3: the waves with these people, and I was like, there's
Speaker 3: just been a terrible mistake. I don't know if you
Speaker 3: think I'm an act, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't. I lay on the beach. I dumped under
Speaker 1: a few waves.
Speaker 5: But even just the work, like the going from a
Speaker 5: multi cam, which is like you're in a sound stage,
Speaker 5: you rehearse all week and then they bring in an
Speaker 5: audience to a single cam alone, must have been a huge.
Speaker 2: On a beach with the ocean, and I mean this
Speaker 2: is a massive thing. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean I've done lots of single camera shows and
Speaker 3: movies and stuff in the past, So that wasn't that
Speaker 3: wasn't so daunting. But the weather, like you think the beach.
Speaker 3: I grew up at the beach. I love the beach,
Speaker 3: but we're shooting winter months, like oh, you're freezing, and like,
Speaker 3: good luck trying to find a dry towel on that set,
Speaker 3: Like you're freezing. They're like get out. We can see
Speaker 3: the rain drops on the water. You know, it's not
Speaker 3: just like all it's cracked up to be right, And
Speaker 3: the overcast days for lighting were the better days.
Speaker 6: So it was just.
Speaker 3: It's tougher.
Speaker 8: It was.
Speaker 3: It was harder than expected.
Speaker 1: Did they not give you any proper training before you
Speaker 1: started shooting, Like, hey, we're gonna try to give you
Speaker 1: some lifeguard lessons? Nothing kind of on the fly.
Speaker 3: It was like on the go, it was it really.
Speaker 3: I think they got better at it as time progressed,
Speaker 3: but they were still feeling out like what is this show?
Speaker 3: Because it went from this network show that was much
Speaker 3: more It wasn't so fluffy, It wasn't you know, so
Speaker 3: video MTV video asque. It was much more like lifeguards
Speaker 3: as in police it was. It was just so much
Speaker 3: more structure, conservative show, and they were sort of feeling out.
Speaker 3: I was very much a guinea pig of feeling out,
Speaker 3: like how serious are we taking this as them being lifeguards?
Speaker 3: But they did want it to be, you know, correct,
Speaker 3: so they would help us like as we were going along,
Speaker 3: and I think as they went down the line, they
Speaker 3: started training people and working with newcasts coming on a
Speaker 3: lot better but no, I didn't have any prior training.
Speaker 3: It was really on the on the go.
Speaker 1: We had Kelly Packard on the podcast recently and she
Speaker 1: talked a lot about the pressure of the stars of
Speaker 1: Baywatch for keeping their weight, and it sounded pretty rough.
Speaker 1: I know it was already difficult for just being a
Speaker 1: woman in the nineties was difficult, but I can only
Speaker 1: imagine when you're wearing a bathing suit week after week.
Speaker 1: This must have been very hard. Was that your experience?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean is it's a lot of pressure. And
Speaker 3: I think especially when Kelly came on after the show
Speaker 3: was such a success and you saw the bodies and
Speaker 3: you knew what you were walking into, I feel like
Speaker 3: that would be so much more pressure us going into it.
Speaker 3: There really wasn't a guideline and it was like here
Speaker 3: we are, and you know, we're just doing this.
Speaker 1: Luckily, I was so.
Speaker 3: Young that and I was considered curvy. Yeah right, and
Speaker 3: I look back and I'm like, where, what right?
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 3: I mean so much so that they gave my character
Speaker 3: an eating disorder and and yeah, we had a five
Speaker 3: pound clause that they could weigh us. Didn't want us
Speaker 3: going above or below five pounds of our weight. But
Speaker 3: I do, in hindsight think that that was also a
Speaker 3: protection to make sure that there weren't that nobody was
Speaker 3: getting too thin. I didn't have that problem. I was
Speaker 3: more like, stay under, stay under, and so I you know,
Speaker 3: I did start to do some working out on the
Speaker 3: beach and you know, go for extra run since we
Speaker 3: were there and the sand and do things like that.
Speaker 3: But when you're that young, it's not that hard.
Speaker 1: It's much easier.
Speaker 3: You know, I had it. Yeah, it's much much easier.
Speaker 3: But Yeah, as the years went on, I think the
Speaker 3: pressure for the women had to be intensified.
Speaker 1: Well, a lot of this comes up in the recent
Speaker 1: documentary After Baywatch, which you appear in as well as produced,
Speaker 1: and similar to our journey here on the podcast, you
Speaker 1: had to deep dive into your youth on the screen.
Speaker 1: What did you learn from that experience?
Speaker 3: God, it was interesting. I just was learning so much
Speaker 3: more about the show as it went along, and you know,
Speaker 3: being and the producer on it, I didn't want to
Speaker 3: focus so much on myself because I was such a
Speaker 3: small you know, it was in the beginning and it
Speaker 3: was weird and my story. We worked on it for
Speaker 3: five years, and so much changed, like the pandemic happened,
Speaker 3: then I got a diagnosis and all of these things,
Speaker 3: and so my storyline kept changing. So I really kind
Speaker 3: of put that into like the back. I was like,
Speaker 3: we're going to deal with that me later, But it
Speaker 3: was really diving into everybody else and just learning and
Speaker 3: really more interesting learning how that show affected their life,
Speaker 3: like their personal life. And Jason Simmons, for example, who
Speaker 3: was gay and he had to hide it, and he
Speaker 3: would have paparazzi, you know, following him and trying to
Speaker 3: catch him making out with other guys or being with
Speaker 3: other men, and so the women on the show would
Speaker 3: rally around him and pretend like they were in relationships
Speaker 3: with him to you know, to hide this for him.
Speaker 3: And just hearing and learning all of these things is fascinating,
Speaker 3: just in heartbreaking and heartwarming and all of the fields.
Speaker 1: I bet. I want to talk to you also about
Speaker 1: a movie that I'm sure comes up with fans a
Speaker 1: lot more than you ever expected. Blown Away. It is
Speaker 1: a nineteen ninety three erotic thriller with the Corris Hayman
Speaker 1: Feldman and you play a rich girl who thinks her
Speaker 1: father killed her mom. It is a cult favorite, a
Speaker 1: lot of signature nineties sex scenes. What memories do you have?
Speaker 2: Wait, there's an era I'm sorry, there's an erotic thriller
Speaker 2: with the Corris This is a thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, really, yes, it is a cult classic.
Speaker 2: What well, I mean obviously watching that, but what a
Speaker 2: strange sentence to hear the nineties erotic thing with the Cory's.
Speaker 2: I never would have suspected.
Speaker 1: What are your memories of making that movie?
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, so when you asked me, like going into Baywatch,
Speaker 3: you know from Charles and Charge. So we had blown
Speaker 3: Away in there, and that was much more on the
Speaker 3: top of my mind than Baywatch because that was in
Speaker 3: the near future. So I was doing that and a
Speaker 3: cheerleading movie with Corey Haim, all these things in Canada
Speaker 3: that were so like opposite each other. But that was
Speaker 3: scary going into that. If I'm going to be completely
Speaker 3: candid and honest and open now and I feel like
Speaker 3: we finally the truth is out there, I can finally
Speaker 3: like speak about this and it's okay. But going into
Speaker 3: that movie with those two at that time and where
Speaker 3: they were in maybe their addiction and their careers and
Speaker 3: everything was frightening and yeah, and it was that was
Speaker 3: a wild, wild experience. It was, you know, and a
Speaker 3: lot of that, A lot of the sex scenes started
Speaker 3: becoming very improvy, and it was like, wait, what's going on?
Speaker 3: And being kind of feeling alone is like a young
Speaker 3: woman on set with all these men and these things happening.
Speaker 9: It was.
Speaker 3: It was a really growing learning moment for me of
Speaker 3: when to go wait, yeah, you know, slow down, stop.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, there's no intimacy coordinator or anything along the
Speaker 2: lines at this point. This is it was like the
Speaker 2: wild West and back back in the day with stuff
Speaker 2: like that, Oh my god.
Speaker 3: And you know, you'd have maybe some of the actor
Speaker 3: disappear in their trailer for hours and then come out
Speaker 3: and clearly intoxicated, and you're like, what am I gonna
Speaker 3: do with this? You know, right before a sex scene?
Speaker 3: Just it was it was a lot. It just it
Speaker 3: was a lot.
Speaker 1: And I still looked at it as like, wow, that.
Speaker 8: Was a lot.
Speaker 1: And at this point you're I'm assuming you're over eighteen,
Speaker 1: and so was your Did you have any sort of
Speaker 1: guardian or anyone on set that you could go to
Speaker 1: outside of most likely an entirely male producer staff, you know.
Speaker 3: Not really because it was shot in Canada. The Canadians
Speaker 3: are really great about having someone on set checking and
Speaker 3: you know, and so there was sort of that, but
Speaker 3: it still isn't a time where we women, we weren't
Speaker 3: really speaking up a whole bunch. And I just come
Speaker 3: off a show where I was being sexually abused, you know,
Speaker 3: behind the scenes, and now it's sort of like there's
Speaker 3: sort of this running theme of like abuse and sexual
Speaker 3: abuse in my life and the movie is really supposed
Speaker 3: to sort of border on that, you know, but she's
Speaker 3: sort of the sexual abuser maybe in the movie. If
Speaker 3: there's abuse happening, it's just it's a very very murky,
Speaker 3: very murky time and era, and it was a weird
Speaker 3: time to speak up about anything. And yeah, it just
Speaker 3: was weird. No, I felt very kind of alone. I
Speaker 3: was kind of alone on a ship out there by myself.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the sexual abuse on the Charles in Charge set.
Speaker 1: If you felt comfortable going to somebody, who would have
Speaker 1: been the person you were you should have gone to?
Speaker 1: Would it have been your mom? Was your mom on
Speaker 1: set with you? Did you have a studio teacher? How
Speaker 1: were you left so unprotected?
Speaker 3: So Charles Charge is an interesting dynamic for me because
Speaker 3: because the sexual abuse was going on and it was
Speaker 3: very apparent, and if it wasn't apparent that the abuse
Speaker 3: was happening, it definitely was obvious that I was getting
Speaker 3: extra attention. So I wasn't always everybody's favorite person. Like,
Speaker 3: to be completely honest, I wasn't. I wasn't the favorite
Speaker 3: person because I was favored by the star of the show,
Speaker 3: and so I didn't really feel like I had a
Speaker 3: lot of allies there.
Speaker 2: And so this is this is happening, and you feel
Speaker 2: like you're on an island because it's like you're also
Speaker 2: being singled out because.
Speaker 1: People are mad you being sexually abused.
Speaker 3: Uh. And still I still feel that from some of
Speaker 3: the cast, and yes, that's exactly true. It's like, oh,
Speaker 3: well you you got more, you know. And it was
Speaker 3: sort of this cast of like they would count their
Speaker 3: lines dialogue and who had the bigger part, and I
Speaker 3: was like, I don't understand anybody that does that to
Speaker 3: begin with, and god forbid I had more dialogues or like,
Speaker 3: it just was this. It was kind of a it
Speaker 3: was toxic all around and the other two children Alex
Speaker 3: Plancy has spoken out about it and myself as an
Speaker 3: adult looking back now, everybody was suffering a form of
Speaker 3: abuse and so it made for a very uh, very
Speaker 3: strange dynamic and a lot of hostility and feelings, and
Speaker 3: so I don't think that there was really anybody that
Speaker 3: you could go to. And this was way before me too,
Speaker 3: And I'm being told if you say anything, everybody loses
Speaker 3: their job. You know, people go to jail. Like you
Speaker 3: can't this is it absolute no. So it was this
Speaker 3: thing of like, now this is something I have to
Speaker 3: deal with and just keep it moving and we got
Speaker 3: to be out of.
Speaker 2: Here by too.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's also such a I mean, I
Speaker 1: want to say, impossible scenario to be in as a
Speaker 1: teenager and then as you you know, you you stop
Speaker 1: doing Charles in Charge, you're still a teenager. Then you
Speaker 1: go into doing Blown Away and you have your again
Speaker 1: dealing with stars who now have addiction issues, and you
Speaker 1: as a as a young person, it would be you
Speaker 1: would be a real anomaly to actually know how to
Speaker 1: address and to see clearly all of the wrongdoings and
Speaker 1: to be able to say like hey, I would like
Speaker 1: to speak up and say stop or I'm not comfortable
Speaker 1: with this. It's like we all grew up knowing that
Speaker 1: the people who worked were the people who were easy
Speaker 1: to get along with, the people who you go with
Speaker 1: the flow, take direction. Well, regardless of how strong or
Speaker 1: a sense of self you have deep down, we were
Speaker 1: all groomed to be people pleasers on sets.
Speaker 3: You bet, and not to speak bad about other cast Right,
Speaker 3: remember those days where you were told, no, matter what's
Speaker 3: going on, you guys are as the kids, you guys
Speaker 3: are fighting. No, you are a family.
Speaker 2: Now you're a family. You're a family.
Speaker 1: Yes, you're a family. I mean, we have talked about
Speaker 1: this a lot on the podcast. How many people we
Speaker 1: did not realize benefited from the culture of secrecy and like,
Speaker 1: well we don't talk about that. Think about how many
Speaker 1: times you heard, well you don't talk to anybody about
Speaker 1: how much money you're making. You don't talk to anybody
Speaker 1: about it. It's like, oh, wait, actually that only helps you.
Speaker 1: It doesn't hurt us for us to talk to each
Speaker 1: other about the things that are going on. If anything,
Speaker 1: it unifies us and helps make us stronger. But in general,
Speaker 1: there was just a you know, yeah, very secretive, very pride.
Speaker 1: It's just the nineties were a real not so great time.
Speaker 3: It's the matter. Yeah, very systematic. Speaking of that, going
Speaker 3: into bay Watch, it was supposed to be a Favored
Speaker 3: Nations and I had to sign the non disclosure that
Speaker 3: because I was making more. But if I was ever asked,
Speaker 3: I had to say it was Favored Nations, like shit
Speaker 3: like that it was.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 3: And then in going through everything I went through and
Speaker 3: then getting on Baywatch and it was not received well
Speaker 3: in the press, although the ratings were there and we
Speaker 3: were being called bimbos and everybody said, like, how did
Speaker 3: you walk away from the number one show in the world.
Speaker 3: So me giving you a little background of like what
Speaker 3: led up to this was my moment of saying, no,
Speaker 3: I want off of this show. Now I'm being called
Speaker 3: a bimbo on top of it all right, I'm already
Speaker 3: feeling all the feels and crazy in the turmoil, and
Speaker 3: now I'm publicly being called a bimbo. I was like,
Speaker 3: I just need out, And that was my moment to
Speaker 3: just step away. And I wasn't going to say anything
Speaker 3: publicly and there was no platform for it and nobody
Speaker 3: was going to listen anyways. But I was able to
Speaker 3: take remove myself and just take time away and just
Speaker 3: go live and rebel and try to figure you know,
Speaker 3: all of this out.
Speaker 2: So you come off of Charles in Charge, which was
Speaker 2: that experience, you go to Blown Away, which was that experience,
Speaker 2: and then you come to Baywatch where now you're being
Speaker 2: called a bimbo. Was there ever a point where you
Speaker 2: were like, what the hell am I doing in this industry?
Speaker 2: Why am I even here?
Speaker 3: That was the moment that was it, because up until
Speaker 3: then I had done good work, like I worked with
Speaker 3: George Cooker or Michael Chapman. I had done something else
Speaker 3: with Meg Ryan, and my resume was good and solid,
Speaker 3: and I'm on, you know, a.
Speaker 1: Trajectory, and I was happy.
Speaker 3: And then Baywatched, after all the things I was going
Speaker 3: through personally to now be publicly being called bimbo, and
Speaker 3: I went into it. I cut all my hair off.
Speaker 3: I cut it short to sort of go against any
Speaker 3: kind of sceneo type like that. I was like, what
Speaker 3: would a young girl wanting to be a lifeguard, what
Speaker 3: would she look like? Well, she wouldn't have really really
Speaker 3: long blonde hair, she would have you know, manageable hair,
Speaker 3: she wouldn't wear makeup, just all of these things. And
Speaker 3: I tried. I went into it and producers were a
Speaker 3: little pissed off that I showed up with, you know,
Speaker 3: a bob. But I felt like I was making character
Speaker 3: choices and and it just none of it. I couldn't
Speaker 3: make anybody happy at that point, do you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? Like, the producers were pissed I didn't have
Speaker 3: the long hair, still being called a bimbo in the press,
Speaker 3: and I just I was like, yeah, enough, like I
Speaker 3: need a break.
Speaker 1: Well, something else you and I have in common. The
Speaker 1: club no one wants to join, but once you're in it,
Speaker 1: the people that are in the club or some of
Speaker 1: the best. You and I both have dealt with breast cancer,
Speaker 1: and you have been such a helpful and wonderful advocate.
Speaker 1: You've been very vocal about your journey and sharing all
Speaker 1: of the updates about the choices that you've made with
Speaker 1: your health care. How are you feeling now and where
Speaker 1: are you in your treatment journey?
Speaker 3: So many loaded questions from there. Well, as you know,
Speaker 3: it's not something that you get a diagnosis, You do
Speaker 3: treatment and then life goes on. That's what you're in
Speaker 3: it forever. This is a forever thing, which you know,
Speaker 3: when I got my diagnosis. Everybody kept saying, oh, in
Speaker 3: a year from now, this will be behind you and
Speaker 3: you'll be on your life. Okay, that's the biggest croct ever.
Speaker 3: So I'm I'm on a lot of treatments, some targeted treatments.
Speaker 3: I'm being tested monthly. My treatments are behind me. I
Speaker 3: still have surgeries ahead of me next month, which I'm
Speaker 3: excited about. I really took my time with that route
Speaker 3: because I just didn't know what was the right choices
Speaker 3: for me, and I kept meeting with doctors and getting
Speaker 3: so many There's just so many different opinions and options,
Speaker 3: and I really I'm somebody that needs to like sleep
Speaker 3: on it. So I took a year to really like
Speaker 3: listen to everybody, digest it all, and like it's a
Speaker 3: big decision because you can rush into these things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can just.
Speaker 3: Follow the protocol and then you're it's this whirlwind of
Speaker 3: stuff and then you're like, wait, what did I just do?
Speaker 3: What just happened?
Speaker 1: You know, if you mind me asking did you have
Speaker 1: a lump back to me to remove? And you did
Speaker 1: chemo and you did radiation right, because like I know,
Speaker 1: for me, I asked if I could delay a surgery
Speaker 1: by like two months because I had episodes of TV.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be I had plans to direct, and
Speaker 1: I was like, well, can I just wait until October?
Speaker 1: I mean it was only like two or three months.
Speaker 1: And they were like, we do not recommend that you
Speaker 1: wait two or three months to make a decision about
Speaker 1: this because it's cancer. We don't know what cancer can
Speaker 1: do in two or three months. So when you were
Speaker 1: able to take a year, is that did you already
Speaker 1: have some surgeries?
Speaker 3: Well, so I wasn't able to have a lumpeck. To me,
Speaker 3: I wasn't even able to have a mess ectomy because
Speaker 3: the cancer was too big. It was there was too much,
Speaker 3: so I needed to do the chemo to shrink it down.
Speaker 3: Then they removed it all, and then the radiation, and
Speaker 3: so that was dealing with the problematic side. And then
Speaker 3: I said, okay, you know, let me do all this,
Speaker 3: let me get through it. And then I really spent
Speaker 3: a lot of time trying to detox and it's still
Speaker 3: trying to detox my body from all that terrible stuff
Speaker 3: that we put into its treatment and trying to deal
Speaker 3: with the menopause side of it that also gets thrown
Speaker 3: at you, and there's just so much out there, and
Speaker 3: there's just so much information to be had that isn't
Speaker 3: given to you by regular general practice practicing doctors. Right
Speaker 3: that my on colleges has no idea of anything to
Speaker 3: help with anything except my key protocol. You know. It's
Speaker 3: so I I just have really been exploring everything, all
Speaker 3: the supplements, doing all the things, trying to make my
Speaker 3: bring myself back to life because my body I really
Speaker 3: went through it, really and I know you did too.
Speaker 3: It's just it's chemo is Oh, it's a beast, and
Speaker 3: you know they threw the strongest ones at me. And
Speaker 3: once you do it, you can't do it again. So
Speaker 3: it's like I need for this not only to be
Speaker 3: effective for now, I need like for this not to
Speaker 3: come back exactly. How do we How do I learn
Speaker 3: how I got here? Because they say not to think
Speaker 3: about that, but I'm sorry, I'm going to think about
Speaker 3: that because along in my preventative treatment here, I want
Speaker 3: to know what I was doing that got me here,
Speaker 3: if anything, And of course there are and what choices
Speaker 3: can I can I also make in my personal life
Speaker 3: and my daily life that will help not bring me
Speaker 3: back here? So I really just dove into that, and
Speaker 3: I'm just always at the doctor. I'm so sick of it.
Speaker 3: I go in every month and then I get a
Speaker 3: Zolodex treatment, and then I have to come back for
Speaker 3: the next week to get blood injections because my white
Speaker 3: blood cell count gets really low. So I have two
Speaker 3: good weeks out of every month. The other two or
Speaker 3: i'm there, I'm at the treatment facility, so it's really
Speaker 3: all consuming.
Speaker 1: And then, like you said, even in those two quote
Speaker 1: unquote good weeks, you're still dealing with menopause symptoms. Yes,
Speaker 1: so even when you're feeling good, you're still not really
Speaker 1: feeling that great.
Speaker 3: You got it. That's that's actually one hundred percent true.
Speaker 3: And yeah, so that's just and I spend all of
Speaker 3: that time feeling that I'm feeling good, trying to learn,
Speaker 3: you know, educating myself and testing all these things and
Speaker 3: talking to doctors, and so it's just this ongoing thing
Speaker 3: for me, and I just want to have all the information.
Speaker 3: God forbid, anybody else I know gets diagnosed, my children
Speaker 3: get diagnosed, if I ever get diagnosed again, and I
Speaker 3: just want It's something that I wasn't just gonna put
Speaker 3: behind me. It's something that I really it hit me
Speaker 3: hard and it's something that I needed to embrace and
Speaker 3: understand more and you know, realize like how did I
Speaker 3: get here? Because I felt like I know how I
Speaker 3: got here. I know, I know what it is, and
Speaker 3: I just want to make sure that I don't go back.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wow, Well I was in touch with you. We have
Speaker 1: texted and been there for each other on surgery days
Speaker 1: and you know, symptom checking, and we both had not
Speaker 1: so great recoveries from our lymph node removals, and we
Speaker 1: we were like.
Speaker 8: What is this?
Speaker 1: What is going on?
Speaker 3: Another thing nobody tells me about, right, like nobody prepares
Speaker 3: you for it.
Speaker 1: We're like, okay, we're going to go in, we're going
Speaker 1: to remove the cancer. Well we're gonna have to test
Speaker 1: some lymph nodes. And you think, okay, no big deal.
Speaker 1: And then you're like, that recovery is terrible and that
Speaker 1: scar and that incision and now also it's hard to
Speaker 1: have your limph fluid drain because you're missing lymph nodes
Speaker 1: and so you were swelling. It's it's delightful, but it
Speaker 1: was nice to have you to talk to and to
Speaker 1: be there for each other and literally everyone in the
Speaker 1: breast cancer community is the same way. They hear someone
Speaker 1: else has been diagnosed and give her my phone number,
Speaker 1: you know, have her reach out to me. Let's talk
Speaker 1: and we share doctor information and things that we've learned.
Speaker 1: So it's like I said, it's a group nobody ever
Speaker 1: wants to join, but once you're in it, you're gonna
Speaker 1: meet some of the best people ever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you really do. And how are you feeling.
Speaker 1: How is I'm doing? Well? I'm done. I finished my radiation.
Speaker 1: I've I've finished active treatment, but I still have my
Speaker 1: you know, I'm taking tamoxifen every day and so there
Speaker 1: those side effects come and go and have new ones
Speaker 1: pop up, and I have to find ways of managing those.
Speaker 1: And but I did have my first clear mammogram just
Speaker 1: this past June, so exactly, you know, one year later,
Speaker 1: now my mammogram is clear. So now it's just the
Speaker 1: trying not to have anxiety on the in between. You know,
Speaker 1: It's like I was I when I walked in to
Speaker 1: have my mammogram, I was like, here's the spot where
Speaker 1: last time I was here it was not so good news.
Speaker 1: And you know, thankfully now they give you your results
Speaker 1: after you've had breast cancer. They give you your results
Speaker 1: right then and there. You don't have to like go
Speaker 1: do they wait three days? Which is nice because I
Speaker 1: walked in and I was just like, if they don't
Speaker 1: tell me real soon, I'm gonna just be sweating for
Speaker 1: three days. But they told me right then and there.
Speaker 2: Well, as somebody who deals with anxiety all the time,
Speaker 2: the easiest way to get rid of it is just
Speaker 2: tell yourself you can't have yeah, like, oh, I just
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stop being anxious.
Speaker 3: It's just that.
Speaker 1: It's over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they actually call it anxiety exactly.
Speaker 2: I could imagine.
Speaker 3: I have seats, tea scans and MRIs that's what I
Speaker 3: have to do those every three months, and we do
Speaker 3: blood markers once a month. But I have to wait
Speaker 3: for my results. I'm not getting them immediate.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, well those MRIs and cts probably yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Well I wish they would. I wish they would give
Speaker 1: them to you.
Speaker 2: Just ye, that would help so much, it would.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: You mentioned that you have two daughters, Dylan and Keegan.
Speaker 1: Uh have they how have they been for you during
Speaker 1: all of this time? And what is your really what
Speaker 1: is your overall relationship with like with your girls.
Speaker 3: Well, my oldest lives in New York, so you know,
Speaker 3: she didn't have to actually witness a lot of it
Speaker 3: like my young one did. But they're just they're supportive.
Speaker 3: They they bring me to a place of taking me
Speaker 3: outside myself too, because it's like you know, when your mom,
Speaker 3: you it gives you purpose and it keeps you from
Speaker 3: maybe feeling sorry for yourself or you know, it's like
Speaker 3: you have stuff to to and you have this role
Speaker 3: to play or be and you just life is so
Speaker 3: much bigger than yourself when you're a mom, right or
Speaker 3: a parent, And so they just really gave me a
Speaker 3: sense of like responsibility to get healthy and to remain
Speaker 3: healthy if nothing else. They have done that the most
Speaker 3: for me and just really sort of looking at me
Speaker 3: to see how how I'm going to handle it right,
Speaker 3: And so it's this moment of I have to show
Speaker 3: them that, you know, you how you handle it? How
Speaker 3: do you roll up your sleeves and handle this and
Speaker 3: not crumble? And it's given me a lot of motivation.
Speaker 3: It's really kind of been my my motivator and and
Speaker 3: really just giving me my purpose and and having a
Speaker 3: young one, I you know, I'm an unpaid uber driver.
Speaker 3: Let's be honest. She's going to be fourteen next week. Actually,
Speaker 3: so she's you know, twelve, eleven and twelve, and it's yeah,
Speaker 3: I have to be a mom.
Speaker 1: There's lunches to be made, you know.
Speaker 3: Rides to be given and things to do, which it's
Speaker 3: such a good distraction.
Speaker 1: Mom.
Speaker 2: It sucks that you're going through this, but I have.
Speaker 3: To be at the Yeah, it's really it's like, kid,
Speaker 3: are you are you gonna be able to get us
Speaker 3: at three? Yes? Yeah. But she's been great because she
Speaker 3: she has to go through it emotionally too with me,
Speaker 3: And so there were there were moments of like in
Speaker 3: the beginning when there would be like I would get overwhelmed.
Speaker 3: I don't know if this happened to you, but I
Speaker 3: would get overwhelmed or over stimulated. We did you do chemo?
Speaker 1: I did not have to do chemo. Yeah, game changer,
Speaker 1: I know, I know. It's it's literally the biggest blessing
Speaker 1: of my situation was I did not need chemo. I
Speaker 1: can't even imagine, No, I really can't.
Speaker 3: So there's these moments of like feeling overwhelmed in public,
Speaker 3: like sensory overload was one of my side effects, and
Speaker 3: so I would look at her and she would say like,
Speaker 3: are you okay? And we would have we had this
Speaker 3: moment early on where she said, I don't know what
Speaker 3: to say or what to do, and I said, it's okay,
Speaker 3: like neither do I, Right, I just need to sit,
Speaker 3: like let's just sit and hug and be quiet. And
Speaker 3: we sort of learned it together like that, and you know,
Speaker 3: there's no there is no strength. There is nothing stronger
Speaker 3: than you know, a good hug from your children, you know,
Speaker 3: or it's just you know, sitting there, quiet and just
Speaker 3: an understanding of okay, this is so weird. And all
Speaker 3: I can say is this is too much right now
Speaker 3: and we're just going to sit and we don't have
Speaker 3: any answers and we don't have to. And there was
Speaker 3: just it was powerful.
Speaker 1: What a yeah, yeah, what a blessing that you had
Speaker 1: her to be able to like you said, like, no,
Speaker 1: no medicine like a hug from your kids. You know
Speaker 1: it's true.
Speaker 3: That's yeah. Well, before we let you.
Speaker 1: Go, I want to talk to you about your podcast,
Speaker 1: Perfectly Twisted. I was recently a guest. Why don't you
Speaker 1: tell us about that? And and what has it been
Speaker 1: as meaningful for you as as our podcast has been
Speaker 1: for us?
Speaker 3: It has. I I wasn't so sure it was gonna be.
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know what I'm going to
Speaker 3: talk about for an hour every day, and I don't
Speaker 3: know if I want to talk for or every week.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I want to talk that much.
Speaker 3: So I got into it, and I really wanted it
Speaker 3: to be a wide variety of topics and whatever I
Speaker 3: was feeling like talking about that week, which has been
Speaker 3: beneficial for me because it's hard for me to stay
Speaker 3: on track.
Speaker 1: It's hard for me.
Speaker 2: I'm Danielle, Danielle, she keeps us on job. I don't
Speaker 2: have that.
Speaker 4: That is not me.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I get a lot of joy and I
Speaker 3: get to talk. It's been sort of a social life.
Speaker 3: It's been a catch up, it's been a learning experience.
Speaker 3: It's it's been a lot of things for me, and
Speaker 3: I love it. I absolutely love it. And I love
Speaker 3: that I'm not tied to one subject. And I love
Speaker 3: that it's uncensored and we can talk about whatever and
Speaker 3: there's no there's no boundaries and it's such freedom. Wow.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 1: I remember when you reached out to me and said, hey,
Speaker 1: can you be a guest on my podcast? And I
Speaker 1: was like sure, And immediately I thought, Okay, she probably
Speaker 1: wants to talk about our cancer journeys. And I said great,
Speaker 1: you know what do you what do you need to know?
Speaker 1: And she was like, Oh, we do enough talking about that.
Speaker 1: Let's actually let's let's talk about let's talk about other stuff.
Speaker 9: And I was like, so cool.
Speaker 1: I would I would love that. Let's just have a
Speaker 1: normal conversation that doesn't involve, you know, cancer.
Speaker 3: Well, don't you feel like that? Some days you really
Speaker 3: want to talk about it and learn about it. In
Speaker 3: other days you look like I don't want to hear
Speaker 3: another word about But.
Speaker 1: There's more to my situation than this thing that happened
Speaker 1: to me. Well, finally, this year marks thirty years since
Speaker 1: the finale of Charles in Charge. Did you realize that? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: well we ask this of a lot of our guests.
Speaker 1: But if you could go back in time and tell
Speaker 1: young Nicole on that set anything from your future self, now,
Speaker 1: what would you tell her?
Speaker 3: Well, I'd probably tell her to boss up a little
Speaker 3: bit more. I tell her to make a few more demands,
Speaker 3: because you know, you you could have it. I would
Speaker 3: have her speak up, you know, and feel comfortable, find
Speaker 3: find somebody. Like you were saying, who would be that person?
Speaker 3: I don't know that I was even you know, able
Speaker 3: to pinpoint like who that person would be. I think
Speaker 3: I would help guide her. There is to like, you know,
Speaker 3: to that, like, you know, speak up for yourself, stand
Speaker 3: up for yourself. And yeah, I mean there's not much else. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there's not, you know, because everything else was pretty great.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's what's so weird. So a lot of it
Speaker 3: was pretty great. I had, I learned a lot, I
Speaker 3: had a great time. But I guess I would help
Speaker 3: guide her into finding a safety.
Speaker 1: I would add too that, you know, when just to
Speaker 1: tell her, like, you're a survivor, like not just we
Speaker 1: hear the word survivor now and we think very much
Speaker 1: directly connected to cancer, but just in general, it sucks
Speaker 1: that you have to be a survivor. I wish you
Speaker 1: didn't have to survive the things you've had to survive,
Speaker 1: but you have. You are a survivor, and you have
Speaker 1: continued to find new versions of yourself and become a
Speaker 1: different person and grow and become better every year, and
Speaker 1: no matter what's been thrown at you. You've survived it
Speaker 1: and been a flower in the.
Speaker 2: So I appreciate.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I really appreciate.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 3: I have a lotus flower on my back because they're
Speaker 3: a beautiful flowers that grows from mud.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: It's funny that you say that, because I have I've survived.
Speaker 3: I've survived, and I feel like all the survival things
Speaker 3: I've been through got me to cancer and now I
Speaker 3: want to be a Thriver right, Like I'm done. I'm
Speaker 3: putting like that survivor era behind me and I want
Speaker 3: a Thriver era.
Speaker 1: Right, And that's it.
Speaker 2: That's great.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here with us, Nicole.
Speaker 1: We would love to have you back on when we
Speaker 1: get to your episode in season seven, when we get
Speaker 1: to pick at Fences, we'd love to have you come
Speaker 1: back on. Maybe you can do a recap with us
Speaker 1: where we'll watch the you know, each one of us
Speaker 1: will watch the episode and then we can talk about what,
Speaker 1: if anything we remember specifically about the weeks. But we'd
Speaker 1: love to have you back.
Speaker 3: I would love that. Thank you for having me. It
Speaker 3: was love lovely seeing all you too.
Speaker 1: It's just great, great to see you, thank you for
Speaker 1: spending your time with us today, and we'll see you
Speaker 1: again soon.
Speaker 3: Bye. Thanks bye.
Speaker 1: Man. Who she really has She was really at the
Speaker 1: forefront of a lot of, you know, nineties horror stories.
Speaker 1: There are there are obviously tons of stories, both positive
Speaker 1: and negative from that decade, and she really was at
Speaker 1: the forefront of like some of the worst of them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and yet is not like I wish I could
Speaker 5: go back and never do it again. She's like, I
Speaker 5: that was my experience, and yeah, there weren't. There weren't
Speaker 5: many other options at place, like it just kind of
Speaker 5: being an actress in the mid nineties. Yeah, it meant
Speaker 5: you kind of had to put up with something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not just an actress. I mean I talked
Speaker 2: to Polinsky about, you know, because I've known Alex for
Speaker 2: many years, and I talked to him about his time
Speaker 2: on Charles in Charge. It just wasn't a good apparently,
Speaker 2: just really toxic place all the way around.
Speaker 1: And imagine, I mean, like at the end, she said,
Speaker 1: you know, and it just sucks because a lot of
Speaker 1: other stuff was really great. It's like, you know, it
Speaker 1: didn't she went she lived through some horrible stuff and
Speaker 1: it didn't even taint the overall experience of her life
Speaker 1: during that time. It was just like, man, it's too
Speaker 1: bad I had to do that, because the rest of
Speaker 1: it was all pretty awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And she said that too her She's like, I
Speaker 2: don't live in the past. Like I can't. I can't
Speaker 2: live in the past. Gotta that's made me who I
Speaker 2: am today, and I got to look forward.
Speaker 1: And I love it. I love the idea that she's
Speaker 1: like that survivor era is behind me and now I'm
Speaker 1: in Thriver Era.
Speaker 2: I love Era.
Speaker 1: I love it out so much. Well, thank you all
Speaker 1: for joining us for this episode of Pod Meets World.
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