1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to Naked Sports, the podcast where we live at 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: the intersection of sports, politics, and culture. Our purpose reveal 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: the common threads that bind them all. 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: So what's happening in women's basketball right now is what 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 2: we've been trying to. 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 3: Get to for almost thirty years. 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: From the stadiums where athletes break barriers and set records. 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 3: Kaylan Clark broke the all time single game assist record. 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 3: This is crazy for rookies to be doing. 10 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: To the polls where history is written, and now we 11 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: have Kamala Harrison. 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 2: It feels more like women are sort of taken what 13 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: they've always deserved, as opposed to waiting on somebody to 14 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: give them what they deserved. 15 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: Our discussions will uncover the vital connections between these realms 16 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: and the community we create. In each episode, we'll sit 17 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: down with athletes, political analysts, and culture critics because at 18 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: the core of it all, how we see one issue 19 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: shines the light on all others. Welcome to Naked Sports. 20 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Gry Champion. Hey everybody, I'm Carrie Champion. 21 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: Thank you for being here for a Christmas edition of 22 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: Naked Sports. 23 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 3: The staff and. 24 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: I initially thought that we would do a best of 25 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: But at the last minute we were able to get 26 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: an interview with Clarissa Shields and she is a two 27 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: time gold medalist and undefeated world boxing champion, arguably the 28 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: best that there is, and she had time for us. 29 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: And since her film The Fire Inside is coming out 30 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 1: on Christmas Day, we thought why not why not release 31 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: this interview just days before the film. Perhaps it encourages 32 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: you all to go and watch it. She's been making 33 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: her media run, so I'm sure that maybe you've seen 34 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: her in the Zeigeist out in the Atmosphere, But this interview, 35 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: I think really captures another side of Clarissa where we 36 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: are able to talk to her about how she sees 37 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: herself and how the world sees her. 38 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 4: And I think it's. 39 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,919 Speaker 1: Important for people to have a healthy sense of self, 40 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: and she has that. She encouraged me and gave me 41 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: some self a sip. I was encouraged by her, which 42 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: I think is amazing. But most importantly, Claressa is honest 43 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: and I think that what she is able to share, 44 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: which is the reason why she is so excellent at 45 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: what she does, is her authenticity. She explains that just 46 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: because she's a boxer doesn't mean, she grew up angry. 47 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: While her environment may not have been the best, she 48 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: still has a lot of love in her heart and 49 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: she wants most people to know who she is. And 50 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: I am impressed, truly impressed. I hope that you sit back, relax, 51 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: and enjoy this interview. Again, it was at the last minute, 52 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: so there might be a few audio hits here and there, 53 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: but nonetheless, it's wonderful to hear this beautiful young lady 54 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: talk about her journey and what's next for her. Please 55 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: enjoy this holiday edition of Naked Sports. 56 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 2: Hey, my name is Clarest of the Globe Shields. Two 57 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: time Olympic God Melonis, fifteen time world champion, the only 58 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: three time undisputed champion in boxing, also known as the 59 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: greatest woman of all time. 60 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: Amen, I received that, Clarissa, thank you for being here. 61 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: You have a very interesting holiday going on right now. 62 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: You have a movie coming out on Christmas Day. Those 63 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: types of movies are always set aside for what people 64 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: believe will be blockbusters, a story that everybody can relate to, 65 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: a feel good story, if you will. Those Christmas Day 66 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: movies are set for a reason. Tell me about a 67 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: fire inside. 68 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: What is it about the Fire Inside is a biopic 69 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: about my life where Ryan News for traying me. It 70 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: starts with my life as a young girl, starting at 71 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: an age and maybe six seven, and then they fast 72 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: forward to eleven years old to where I began boxing, 73 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: and then a fast forward to where I. 74 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 3: Was starting to prepare for my. 75 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: First Olympics at the age of sixteen. So I fought 76 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: the Olympics I was seventeen, started paying when I was sixteen, 77 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: and Dan, it just shows you know what all is 78 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: so to get there, what all happened after the Olympics, 79 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: my upbringing in Flint, Michigan, how this world is has 80 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: this sex and racist ways against brownskin girls, and how 81 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: I overcame all that. 82 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 3: To become who I am up today. 83 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: The quotes Amen, I don't know if you remember I 84 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: met you when I worked at ESPN years ago. You're 85 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: you're still a teenager, and I remember thinking, what a 86 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: great disposition. So for me, that means she seems so 87 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: sweet And people have preconceived notions, and it's not just 88 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:46,679 Speaker 1: for you, it's for anybody. 89 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 4: I have the same preconceived notions. 90 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: I walk in the room and people just feel away 91 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: about me as soon as I walk in and I 92 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: understand that. But when I listen to you talk and 93 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: I watch how you interact with other people, whatever preconceived 94 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: notions that are there to me would be the opposite. 95 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: If I saw you in the ring, I wouldn't say 96 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: that is your demeanor outside of the ring. You know 97 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: what I mean? 98 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 4: You are a totally different person growing up. 99 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: What were some of the not even boxing, what were 100 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: some of the preconceived notions about you? How did people 101 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: feel about you growing up? 102 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 2: You know, growing up, everybody just kind of accept me 103 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 2: for who I was. Everybody knew that, yeah, I was 104 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 2: a boxer, but I had the most friends. I was 105 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 2: friends with everybody. I was honest, classes I was real quiet. 106 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,559 Speaker 2: I didn't get more vocal till I turned probably about 107 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 2: like fifteen, sixteen years old. 108 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 3: I was nice with everybody. 109 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: You know. I don't know where the miskan where the 110 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 2: I think the misconception came when the world is trying 111 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: to understand where does a woman or a young girl 112 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: come with all this fire to just want to fight? 113 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: And I think that they just put it all in. 114 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: I think they were like shallow minded and were like, oh, 115 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: she has to be an angry girl. She has to 116 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: have the tough upbringing. She's from Flint, Michigan. 117 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 3: She grew up poor. 118 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: She hates everybody, she has to fight, And I think 119 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: that's just there's way of thinking. And I didn't experience 120 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 2: that growing up until I started going to the Olympic 121 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 2: Training Center and being around more women and being around 122 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: more boxes, and being around going across the nation and fighting. 123 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 2: I had never really experienced that until I start going abroad, 124 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: and then you read some of these articles and stuff 125 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: that they were writing about home, just so angry and upset, 126 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 2: and I was. 127 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 3: Like, where where is this stuff coming from? 128 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: But if anybody takes the time to get to know me, 129 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: no matter the situation, regardless, I believe that everybody will say, like, dang, 130 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: she's a very nice and understanding person. 131 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: You know. I'm not really a person that judge no 132 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 3: matter what the situation is. I give my best advice. 133 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: I tell you if what's right, what's wrong in my opinion, 134 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: But I take everything as an opinion because at the 135 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 2: end of the day, everybody liked us to be lived 136 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: how they wanted to be lived, and nobody should have 137 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: to live off somebody else's opinion or experiences. 138 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 3: So for me, all those things. 139 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: That people were trying to portray, even when I turned 140 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: pro they were just shallow minded, you know, and they 141 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,679 Speaker 2: had never experienced a woman like me before. 142 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: And I think being a woman like like. 143 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: Like myself, and then also being vocal and not and 144 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: not caring about what everybody else think, I think also 145 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: made it to where they were like, oh she I 146 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: think that was intimidating for them, and that's what they 147 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: just was like, we don't understand it. 148 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 3: So I think it took them some time to get 149 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: to know me. 150 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: But I think now everyone will say, wow, Clarsla is just, 151 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: you know, such a wonderful and nice person, and she's 152 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: so nice, but she's a beast, but she's very nice 153 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 2: in kind and she helps anyone that's you can. 154 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: I think that's a fair I think that's a fair assumption. 155 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: No one can tell you who you are but yourself. 156 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: You said that you didn't really know you were perceived 157 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: a certain way until you started to get more fame, 158 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: international attention. Do you think there's an element of racism 159 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: to that or is there an element of ignorance, because 160 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: those are two different things. Ignorance means I've just never 161 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: seen anyone like her fight the way she's fought before. 162 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: At least here's an example. I've never seen someone like 163 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: her in this field fight with the way in which 164 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: she fights without it leading to something or being something 165 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: more hidden sinister inside of her. And then racism is 166 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: just well, she's an angry black woman. So that's that's 167 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: what's happening. Was it a mixture of the two or 168 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: how do you feel people perceived and where do you 169 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: think these different notions came from. 170 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 2: I can say in the amateurs it was ignorance, you know, 171 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: as I got older and I started fighting. But I 172 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 2: can say when I when I when I turned pro racism, 173 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 2: How do y'all have to paint me out when they 174 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 2: controlled the narrative, when they control the storytelling. It got 175 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: the points where I would tell the network it's like, 176 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: I'm not putting that on my page, like like, I 177 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 2: know it happened. I know that y'all cut this up 178 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 2: and put it here, and y'all put the most the 179 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: most craziest part getting you make to sell the fight 180 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 2: and everything. But it got to a point where I'm like, 181 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 2: I'm not posting that. I'm not like one that's too mean. 182 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: You know. 183 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, it's just too mean. 184 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 2: I'm not only selling the fight, but it's like I 185 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 2: have a genuine dislikes from my opponents when I'm getting 186 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 2: ready to fight in But that's not something that I mean, 187 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: the men have that too. But you guys, don't just 188 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 2: focus on that. Show the good stuff. Show my community work, 189 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 2: show me smiling, show me going out to eat with 190 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: with my boyfriend or something like. 191 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 3: Show that. Show them all different type of sides, Like, 192 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 3: don't just show. 193 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: Them me training my butt off, me running, me punching 194 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: the bag, me hitting the pad, me telling my. 195 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 3: Opponent I'm looking up, you know, all this stuff. 196 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 2: You guys want to put all that together and put 197 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: it just all in one video. 198 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 3: And then it got to a point where're. 199 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: Like, my fans were scared of me, and I just 200 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: was like, I don't. I don't want that type of image. 201 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, and that's not who I am. I'm not 202 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: a person that my fans should be scared of me 203 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 2: to ask for a picture or to approach me. 204 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 3: I'm another type of person. But that's how I was perceived. 205 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 2: So I think that that was them one being ignorant, 206 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 2: but them also being racist and saying this is what 207 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: we want to show, this is what we want to showcase, 208 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 2: because we don't see the beauty in her, we don't 209 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: see the niceness in her. Even though I've always said, listen, 210 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 2: I'm a Christian woman. I go to church most Sundays. 211 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 2: I spent a lot of times with my family. I 212 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 2: had custody of my sister kids for years, and they 213 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 2: lived and stay with me, and I took them to. 214 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 3: School, fedom clothe them like a mom. When they don't 215 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 3: want to show that stuff. They only want to show 216 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 3: this stuff here. 217 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 2: And they got to a point to where I told them, 218 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: I said, I don't I'm not gonna let you guys 219 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: control that anymore. And that's not when I took over 220 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: my own brand and start showing the side of me 221 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: that I want to show. That's people seeing like, oh 222 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 2: my god, this is a nice girl. This is a 223 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 2: pretty girl. 224 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: This is a woman who is just passionate about blocking 225 00:10:58,360 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 3: and she's not an angry black woman. 226 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: It took needed to put my foot down and let 227 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: them know we're not gonna post certain things. Even though 228 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 2: I may say some things, we're not gonna blast that 229 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: all over social media to where that's what I'm perceived 230 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: as we're gonna blast and stuff. You're gonna blast the 231 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: good stuff along with some bad stuff here and there, 232 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 2: or with some stuff from up to fight. But it 233 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: was for a long time. For years, it was nothing 234 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: but just angry stuff, me talking trash, me on and 235 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 2: my opponent, even me winning fights, and they're calling my 236 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 2: opponents in the ring and then my opponents start talking 237 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: trash to me and. 238 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 3: Then I go off again. 239 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: He's like, no, you guys are kind of setting me 240 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 2: up now to have these things happen, you know. So 241 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 2: it got to the points where I said, don't do 242 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 2: that type of stuff because one, I'm not a woman 243 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: that played games. I don't like disrespect. If I won 244 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: a world championship fight, Why are you letting my opponent 245 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 2: come in the ring and try to talk trash to me? 246 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: Like that's not right? And then you think I supposed 247 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: to be professionally. Oh you just said you'd beat me 248 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: and my point of the sat and oh that's so cute. 249 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: It's like, no, I want to I want to fight 250 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 2: you right now, but I'm like to avoid that and 251 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: to be on a classier level, I can't let you 252 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: guys do that because it's just not appropriate and I'll 253 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: and I also work too hard to just have my 254 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 2: wins get overshadowed by me arguingly with who I'm fight 255 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 2: in next. 256 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: I like what you were saying, but I want to 257 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: make sure I understand as a boxer, they're marketing you 258 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: as a tough person who's angry, who who can fight. 259 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: They're not giving that other side of you. You understand. 260 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: You understand the marketing concept because you've seen it with 261 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: other boxers. 262 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 3: They do it. 263 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: I've never seen them, rarely see them, and you know, 264 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: make boxers appear in a different light where you see 265 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: their humanity. It took years for us to see Mike 266 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: Tyson's humanity, and you, early on in your career, was like, 267 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: you gonna see my humanity. Yes, I don't play games 268 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: and I handle my business in the ring, but I'm 269 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: also a human. It's the duality and the nuance that 270 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 1: you're asking for that they don't give them to, more 271 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: specifically women or black women. I think that's profound and 272 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: I think it's really smart of you when you started 273 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: to push back on your perception. 274 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 4: How did your team take it? How did the boxing 275 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 4: world take it. 276 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: My team didn't quite understand it at first because I 277 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: got really angle with them with just I think I 278 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: looked too mean in that picture. I had another picture 279 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: where I looked confident and I looked strong, but I 280 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: didn't look angry at me. 281 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: Can we use that one? And oh, Clarissa, you're just 282 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 3: giving us a hard time. No understand what I'm saying 283 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 3: to you. I want this picture. I don't want that picture. 284 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 3: So now we got things like that, and I'm like, okay. 285 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 2: So they were respectful of that, but then you know, 286 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 2: when it like comes to how I wear my hair 287 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 2: and how I wear my clothes, I changed all that 288 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 2: and my team was just very. 289 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: Respectful of it. 290 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: And I had let them know it's beauty in boxing, 291 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: it's not just boxing. 292 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 3: And the fact that anyone. 293 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: In this world could ever fix the lists to call 294 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: me ugly was a problem, and it was like, I 295 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 2: am not ugly. But when I when I used to 296 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: hear it, I used to be like, what are they 297 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 2: looking at? 298 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 3: Are they blind? 299 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: Hey? Man? 300 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 3: Are they blind? But it like people are so just 301 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 3: focused on this. 302 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: These fists here are so intimidating, and they're and they're 303 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 2: so strong, and fast and. 304 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 3: They're hard and I'm not small and inside of the 305 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 3: green you don't really get to see the Christmas stuff. 306 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: That's not that's place for it. That's not the place 307 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: for it. But you are a beautiful woman. 308 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes when it wasn't that time. So when I 309 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: do the weighings and I do the press conference and 310 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: I be now. 311 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 3: I'm showing you. I'm I'm showing up to the press 312 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 3: conference in hills. 313 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: I got my hair done, my mixed up done, I 314 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: got my lashes on where you can see, oh shoot, 315 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: and then I gotta figure color bottles. So it's like, yeah, 316 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: y'all thought. I don't know what y'all thought, but this 317 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: is what it really is. So now that I've shown that, 318 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 2: now they're. 319 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 3: Like, oh no, she's not. And it was like, one, 320 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 3: I was never a an ugly girl. I just had 321 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 3: to I kind of had to put it out there 322 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 3: a bit more. 323 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 2: And because I was comfortable with just my shirt, my 324 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: pants and my T shirt, I was comfortable with that. 325 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: But now I'm also comforable with you know, we live 326 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: in the world now where people feel like if you're 327 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: not showing no skin, you know. 328 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 3: If your stuff ain't see through. 329 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: The outfit ain't popping, So I couldn't really get with 330 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 2: that because it's like, I don't like I don't like 331 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: somebody being able to see through my clothes if you're 332 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: not if you should only be able to know with 333 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 2: underneath my clothes, and if you've been in the bedroom, 334 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: you shouldn't be able to see it out and no club, 335 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: press conference, none. 336 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 3: Of that stuff. 337 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: I don't mind wearing no shirt and no shorts, but 338 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 2: all this seat through stuff, I'm like, I'm kind of 339 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: against that, you know. 340 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 3: So it took me away. I want to figure out 341 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 3: what kind of clothes can I wear. 342 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: That can still be considered cute, sexy, pretty, But everybody 343 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 2: was at the time they were just getting naked. 344 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 3: So I really couldn't get jiggy with that one. 345 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 2: But I did find some clothes that I was comfortable 346 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: and that was still okay, this is nice, this fits 347 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 2: you well. 348 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 3: It's not it's showing something. It's not showing too much. 349 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 2: It's classy, you know. So I like to be like that, 350 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 2: and at the time everybody wasn't like that. Now people 351 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: are starting to come back to the other side, but hey, 352 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: we see it every day. 353 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 3: These girls that aren't naked and every chance to get 354 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: their naked. 355 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 4: Back in a moment. 356 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: In a world that tells people who are in front 357 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: of the camera, women more specifically, to be more sexy, 358 00:16:54,520 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: whether you are a dancer, a host, a model, an athlete. Athletes, 359 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: especially women especially feel like when they're an athlete, they have. 360 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 4: To prove their beauty. 361 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: They overdo the hair, the makeup, the looks because they 362 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: want to bring in a fan base and they feel 363 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: like that's the key there. I'm old enough to remember 364 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: when Serena Williams was world number one and she wasn't 365 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: getting the praise or the marketing deals or any of 366 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: those things because of what people felt like, what she 367 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: looked like. I remember her being like, I'm world number one, 368 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: but yet Maria Sharapova is getting off the marketing dollars? 369 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 4: What else do I need to do? 370 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: And for you to say, I'm not with that, but 371 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: I can find something that's a happy medium that makes 372 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: me comfortable. 373 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 3: So be it. 374 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: That is the antithesis of what That is the antithesis 375 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: of what management will tell you and what this world 376 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: will tell you. 377 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 4: Where do you get that confidence from? 378 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 2: I just had these things where I feel like when 379 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 2: I look in the mirror, I'm okay with what I see, 380 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: then I'm okay. You know, I have tried to be 381 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: the person to listen to outsiders and change my hair 382 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 2: and wear these clothes and do this, and I've looked 383 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 2: in the mirror and I've said I don't like this, 384 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 2: you know, I don't like the person that it makes 385 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: me feel like I'm uncomfortable. I'm not I'm not happy 386 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 2: it Maane, me depressed trying to please other people. And 387 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 2: I said, you know what, if God hasn't gotten me 388 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 2: there yet to where I want to do this stuff, 389 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: I'm just not gonna do it. 390 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 3: And I decided to just be okay with me. 391 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people want to be 392 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 2: accepted by others so much that they go out their way. 393 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 3: To do it. 394 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 2: And I'm like, at the end of the day, sadly, 395 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 2: you know, when you die, you go by yourself, you know, 396 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: and when you get to the heaven. 397 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 3: Gates and God get to decide, hey, you. 398 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: Coming with me or you're going down with the devil. 399 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: I want God to look at me and say you 400 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 2: come in with me. And I think that me being 401 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: true to myself and not letting this world try to 402 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: change me because money or stature or whatever. And I 403 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 2: think me just staying true to myself and being a woman, 404 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 2: of being a woman of God. 405 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 3: It's like, I just feel much better doing it that way. 406 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 2: And you know, I think it's just it's a thing 407 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 2: of I wouldn't want to be nobody else in this 408 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 2: world but myself. Like do I have goals that are 409 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 2: similar to others, Yes, but I wouldn't want to be them. 410 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna fold to the pressures of this world. 411 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 2: You know, they tell darts some girls that were too dark, 412 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 2: and then you see some of these dark skinned girls 413 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 2: going and bleaching their skin. You know, you freaking see 414 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: these girls who are critiqued and they and they got 415 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 2: a nice shape, and they say, but your button not 416 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: big enough. These girls gonna get but these girls gonna 417 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 2: give your breast and it's and it's dangerous to them 418 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 2: and it's killing them. I just I just find it 419 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: okay to be happy with what God gave you and 420 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 2: what he blessed you with, you know. And I'm just 421 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: I'm okay with that. And I and I hope other 422 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 2: can you know learn that too, Like, hey, you wanna 423 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 2: get mebl do it because you want to do it, 424 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: not because the world is telling you, Oh, your blessed 425 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: too little and everybody got a big butt. That's how 426 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 2: you get a mainstream of But I think that everybody 427 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 2: should just do what they want to do with their 428 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 2: own life because it makes them happen, because it's your life. 429 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 2: But I think it too much for everybody else approval. 430 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 2: And that's the problem right there. 431 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 4: That's a that is a true story. 432 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: You grew up in Flint, Michigan, And I wonder growing 433 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: up in Flint, Michigan, what was it like like? Tell 434 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: me about your childhood because what I'm trying to connect 435 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: the dots is a lot of who we are has 436 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: a lot to do with how we were raised. Whether 437 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: it just does it happens, we don't even know what's happening. 438 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: You grew up with your grandmother, your mother, your sisters. 439 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: Tell me, your siblings, your younger siblings. Tell me how 440 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: you grew up in Flint. 441 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 3: So eight is one through five. 442 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 2: I stayed with my mom and then I had got 443 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: abuse at five, you know, I got tottect and rape. 444 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 2: So after that I stayed with my grandma for five years. 445 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: So I was ten, moved back with my mom start 446 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 2: boxing at the age of eleven. 447 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 3: Stand my mom. 448 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: I stayed with my little sister, my younger brother, and 449 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 2: my older brother artist, so it was just all four 450 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 2: of us. I started boxing, and honestly, even though I 451 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 2: had the hard sess going through, like we didn't have 452 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 2: a lot of food at home. 453 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 3: Mom was abusing alcohol at the time. You know, my 454 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 3: little sister got pregnant. 455 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 2: Very young, fifteen sixteen years old. My brother ended up 456 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: going to going to going to prison for some years. 457 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 2: I think a lot of this stuff did not affect 458 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 2: me as bad as it should have affected me because 459 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 2: I was in the gym. 460 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 3: I was in a gym training. 461 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 2: I was in the gym training, and I was I 462 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: was in the gym training, and I was at school. 463 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 2: And that's the most so important things that mattered to me. 464 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 2: You know, I could give myself a curfew at ten o'clock. 465 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 2: My mom didn' give me no curfew. She didn't care 466 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 2: how I let I say that out. But I be 467 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: back in the house every day nine forty five, nine 468 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 2: fifty oh a lot. 469 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 3: I'm going off, you guys talking me to go home. 470 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 3: I gotta go home. 471 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 2: It's nothing late, it's nothing out late at night open, 472 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 2: but yeah. 473 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 3: Legs and trouble. So I'm going home. That's what I felt. 474 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: You just that different. Well, where did you get that 475 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: discipline from? Where'd you get that discipline from? Where does 476 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: that come from? It's just an eight you got it naturally. 477 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 3: At the age of thirteen. 478 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 2: I made a decision that I was going to your 479 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: Olympics at seventeen, you know. So it was just like 480 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,239 Speaker 2: you got four years, four years to give to Joe All. 481 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 3: You got four years to do right, you got four years. 482 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: To be perfect. I just didn't want to mess that up. 483 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 2: So I kind of put it on myself and I 484 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: believe it. Also of my boxing posts too were like rest, 485 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 2: go home at night and get your sleep so you 486 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 2: can get the best six o'clock in the morning and 487 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 2: go for your morning around before school, you know, like 488 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: Jason was like, you can do that. You know, we 489 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 2: feel like gonna be in better shake. You want more win, 490 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 2: take your butt home at ten o'clock. And then when 491 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 2: you go to sleep and you get up in the morning, 492 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 2: you get up refreshed, you work out, then you go 493 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 2: to school, and then after school you could a box 494 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 2: and practice, you know, and I think him telling you 495 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 2: those things, I'll just kind of be like, yeah, you're right. 496 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 2: And once I said yeah, you're right, he's yeah, you're right, 497 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 2: this is what got to get done. 498 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: That sounds like your piece was in You found your 499 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: piece and discipline. You found it in school, you found 500 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: it in the gym. You found it because you knew 501 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: what your purpose was. That to me feels very destined, 502 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: purposeful when you have that at such a young age. 503 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: I always talk to people on the podcast who do special, 504 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: extraordinary things, and they say they just knew from a 505 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: certain age that they had to do it. And it's 506 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: always very young, despite what's around them, despite the trauma. 507 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: And I don't want to give all this away because 508 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: I know and the fire inside you talk about it 509 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: talks about your upbringing. It talks about your relationship with 510 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: your first boxing coach and Chason, and how he was 511 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: your father's clast coach. In a lot of ways, you 512 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: all are no longer working together. And for the folks 513 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: who are listening after they see the film, because they'll 514 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: listen to this maybe after they see the film or 515 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: before they see the film, well, why are you all 516 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: at work together and are you open to possibly working 517 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: with him again. 518 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 2: Well, you know, me and Jason when our first left 519 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,239 Speaker 2: the Gold Meda together and then when I turned pro, 520 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 2: we won our first World tied together, you know, so 521 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: we got talking to work together in times that we. 522 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 3: Didn't right now. 523 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 2: You know, I haven't worked with Jason maybe in six years, 524 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 2: and I've been professionals maybe eight or something like that. 525 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 3: A Jason is a great coach, you know. 526 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 2: And I mean the fall apart was at my younger age, 527 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 2: you know, was the whole rule was about the dating thing, 528 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 2: which album was eight years ago, so it was like, 529 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 2: can't tell him I can't date, you know. 530 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 3: But he was just trying to protect me. You know, 531 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 3: if I can go back in time. 532 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 2: And not not be rebellious against it and not let 533 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 2: me and not follow my heart, I definitely, if I 534 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: can go back in time, I would have chose to 535 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 2: not have a boyfriend ever until I was probably like 536 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: twenty five. I'm telling you the truth. Like I would 537 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: have just I would have just waited. I would have 538 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 2: waited it. But it's like when somebody's trying to make 539 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 2: you not do something, it's something always ain't like, oh well, 540 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it anyway, so if I can go 541 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 2: back in time, Lord Lord, No, I will not have 542 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 2: what for until I like twenty five. 543 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 3: I promise I wouldn't do it. 544 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 4: That's hilarious. 545 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: No, I'm so serious, like, I wouldn't do it. It's 546 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 2: been it's such a headache. It's such a headache. I 547 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 2: think about in those years. 548 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 3: Of seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty one. 549 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: I've always had a boyfriend. So it's like it's been 550 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 2: a headache with this one headache, with that one headg 551 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 2: with that one I wish I just would never eat. 552 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 4: So now you see what Jason, what Jason was trying 553 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 4: to say. You saw you know what Jason was trying to. 554 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 3: Tell you sotely, you know, and I told him that. 555 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, you was right, You're not but 556 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: I wish I you know, you and a young girl 557 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 2: say don't even listen to much. 558 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 3: But you know, I think that me and Jason and 559 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,719 Speaker 3: Jason in a great standing. He's training kids still in Flint, Michigan. 560 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 3: He got he's a great coach. 561 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,479 Speaker 2: And I'm professional doing my thing, a professional who got 562 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 2: us the movie together. But me and Jason, we are 563 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 2: too much alike you always, but hands he raised me, 564 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 2: you know. It's it's certain morals in me that he 565 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: put in me that he has in him. And sometimes 566 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 2: they clash, you know, but that that doesn't make him 567 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,719 Speaker 2: a bad person. He just created a very very strong individual, 568 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 2: and he's a very strong individual. 569 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,239 Speaker 3: And sometimes you know, we don't get along, you know, 570 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 3: but I have a lot of. 571 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: Respect for him, and I'm always thankful to always giving him, 572 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 2: giving him his props. 573 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 3: He taught me how to fight. 574 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 2: He taught me how to bob, you know, and that's 575 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,719 Speaker 2: something that you know, I'm always going to be grateful 576 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 2: for no matter who I work with. It and you 577 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 2: know it, if he ever wanted to, if we ever 578 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 2: we we ever take again, who knows, but if we did, 579 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 2: I'm quite sure it'd be just as successful as it 580 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 2: has ever been. 581 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. The people who love you the most 582 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: always just try to protect you. But sometimes we don't 583 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: know how to go about it. You know, you love 584 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: somebody so much, and this is even in relationships. You 585 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: loved someone so much, sometimes you don't have the words 586 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: or the ability to love them the way they need 587 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: to be loved. During a certain time, and explain things 588 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: to them. It's just how all relationships go. You talk 589 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: about relationships and boyfriends and headaches. I'm going to tell 590 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: you something about how matter of fact you are as 591 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: you're dealing with the the remy. 592 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 4: Mah of it all. 593 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 1: On Jamel's podcast, you would like you said, give me 594 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: a dollar. Did you see that post, that post Jamail 595 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: put up today about on politics? 596 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 597 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 3: It was, it was. It was. 598 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: It was very matter of fact. It wasn't I'm ready 599 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: to fight. You were just like this person put my 600 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,479 Speaker 1: phone number on the internet. You're like, you were just 601 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 1: like I was. 602 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 2: It's really not about It's really not about whatever she's 603 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: trying to make it about, you know, about oh this 604 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 2: is me and him, but da, everyone knows their situation 605 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 2: out there, allowed or whatever. 606 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 3: The case needs to be. Yeah, it's not. It's not 607 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 3: about fighting. 608 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 2: Over fighting over anything, because who in their right mind 609 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 2: will do will do something like that, fight over fight 610 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 2: over a man, period. 611 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 3: That just is not my character. It's just the fact 612 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 3: that that she don't even notice. 613 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 2: She don't know the situation, and she just put my 614 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: number out there and and then also create creative, fake, 615 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 2: fake text messages. So that's my that's my issue. I 616 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 2: don't know what else she has going on. I see 617 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: all these blogs and stuff like that. 618 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 3: It's not to clear that stuff up. 619 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 2: I'm working on, uh, training for my fight and promoting 620 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 2: my movie, you know. And honestly, if I had a 621 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 2: boyfriend or a man, I've always had. 622 00:28:54,480 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 3: A public relationship. Yeah you're like, it's just like yeah, 623 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 3: but if we're not, if we're not that you know 624 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. 625 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 2: It's like people just going around whatever that they're going 626 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 2: to run with and it's not really my place to 627 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: get in that. 628 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 3: I think she needs to she. 629 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 2: Needs to do a whole lot of healing and she 630 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 2: needs to go figure her stuff out. 631 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 3: But putting my number out there was just like very 632 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 3: very which is very very. 633 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: Hildish and then disturb all this stuff and she got it, man, 634 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 2: stop just stop it. She she got a man already. 635 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 2: And it's not who she's saying. It is like she 636 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 2: she's crazy. I don't know what's said. 637 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: Okay, so you are not with you don't have a boyfriend, 638 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: you're not in a relationship. 639 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 4: Is that what you're saying. 640 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 2: My private life is my private life. And if I 641 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 2: had a boyfriend, I would be public. That's what I'm saying. 642 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 4: That she said it, You're like, yes, in the story period. 643 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: Back in a moment, I think the way you're handling yourself, 644 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: and I don't know if you run that past pr 645 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: or anybody, the way you're handling yourself to me explains 646 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: a lot of why you are so successful at what 647 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: you do. You have decided to be who you are authentically. 648 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: Is there ever a time where you think it's too much? 649 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: Has this journey been hard for you because you make 650 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: it feel effortless? 651 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,479 Speaker 4: Has this journey been hard for you? 652 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 3: It has been extremely yard. 653 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 2: It's like more fame I get, the more money I get, 654 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 2: the more accomplishments I get, it gets harder. You know. 655 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 3: Right now I can say like I have had to 656 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 3: change with my. 657 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 2: Entire life, you know, And it's not because God has 658 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: told me to you know. And when you don't listen 659 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 2: to God, when God to do things at a certain time, 660 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 2: it can detoy your life. 661 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: Right. 662 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 2: So I'm happy that in this season I listen to 663 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 2: what God I told you to do. God told me 664 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 2: to leave Flint two years ago, two. 665 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 3: Years so I lived in Flint the past two years. 666 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 2: Depressed, said Mad all the time, getting ready for camps, 667 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 2: dealing with family drama, dealing with friends drama, being around 668 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 2: fake friends. 669 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 3: I've dealt with this for the past two or three years. 670 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 3: When God being told. 671 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 2: Me, if you don't pack up your bags and go 672 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 2: and live where you've been wanting to live, where I 673 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: gave you the finances to live where you deserve to live, 674 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 2: where there's good energy and better energy, if you don't go, 675 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 2: and I just didn't want to do it. 676 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 3: I didn't want to leave my family. I didn't want 677 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 3: to leave my current with my past relationship. I didn't 678 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 3: want to leave you know, I said my family. I 679 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 3: didn't want to leave my friends. It was so much 680 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, God, I'm leaving behind. 681 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 2: But then I moved and God just exposed everybody for 682 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 2: being who they are and what they are, and he 683 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 2: letting me know, this is why you need to get 684 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 2: away from them, because if. 685 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 3: You want to stay, you would have been in jail. 686 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 4: How do you have a soft middle? 687 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: How do you still have a soft meddle with all 688 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: the heart around you because you have every reason to 689 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: be hard. 690 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 2: I just create my all little world that I was 691 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 2: did and and I'm okay with that. 692 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 3: I create my own lower world. Lie. 693 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,479 Speaker 2: I got some new friends now, all my little other 694 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 2: faith friends, the ones who call they stuff having to 695 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 2: be for me or growing apart whatever that bush needs, 696 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 2: you know, saying that, oh we never got into an argument, 697 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 2: but we're not friends anymore and you've changed and they 698 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 2: don't want to be friends the more, and just oh, 699 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 2: you do more stuff for your friends than. 700 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 3: You do for your family. 701 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 2: But whatever the case may be, all that fake people 702 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 2: that was doing that stuff. 703 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 3: They're gone now. 704 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 2: And it was a season where it was just me 705 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 2: and I and I spent months by myself, you know, 706 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 2: I spent months with myself, And not that it was easy. 707 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: It wasn't easy. But what I can say is that 708 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 2: it helped me realize that at the end of the day, 709 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 2: I put in so much hard work in the box 710 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 2: and that I deserve to have a happy life despite 711 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 2: people wanting to take everything from me and feeling entitled. 712 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:12,719 Speaker 2: You know, I've never been entitled to nobody else, money, time, cars, nothing. 713 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 3: I always can't have to work for everything myself. 714 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 2: People think that I worked that hard just to give 715 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 2: it all the way to them, and it's like, no, 716 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 2: this is the heart, this is the fruit of my labor, 717 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 2: not the fraud of your labor. 718 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 3: So listen, the soft metal is now. I got new friends. 719 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 2: I got new people that support me through everything I 720 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 2: go through, you know, all social media, all social media. 721 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 2: I got people that really care about me and love 722 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 2: the mess out of me more than people who I've 723 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 2: been off for years. 724 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 3: And these are new people in my life. And I think, 725 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 3: say that I'm happy, I'll listen to God, and I 726 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 3: feel so much more. 727 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 2: I feel free, Like I went through depression for a 728 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 2: long time, and I was scared to tell people, you know, 729 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 2: I went through the social thoughts, got in the boxing 730 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 2: match and go and I would go through camp depressed, 731 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 2: and I would train hard and coach. 732 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 3: They have to talk me off the ledge so. 733 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 2: Many times, and and my assist they have to take 734 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 2: my phone, and just all types of stuff that I 735 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 2: went through for years, and people only see, Oh, she 736 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 2: on top, she win and she's a champion, she's the best, 737 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 2: she's the quote, and I'm and I'm struggling mentally this 738 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 2: whole time. Now I finally feel a lot better to 739 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 2: where I'm not struggling like that no more. And and 740 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 2: I don't feel the pressure to the world and people 741 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 2: constantly pulling a knee, and I'm making making everybody. 742 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:34,760 Speaker 3: Else happy, but I'm not happy. 743 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 2: I finally feel like how I think the greatest. 744 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 3: Woman of all times to feel. 745 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 2: I feel free and I feel better and I and 746 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 2: I'm just happy about that. 747 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: You feel free and you feel better, and you're happy 748 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 1: about that. You deserve that. It's interesting I think everybody 749 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: can relate to. When you start doing really well, the 750 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: people you know around you start to change. That's how 751 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,720 Speaker 1: you decide who you're, who your people are. It happens 752 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: to your not alone. Like what you're saying feels very 753 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,720 Speaker 1: much a shared experience. The one part that I wanted 754 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,919 Speaker 1: to tell you was that you're like, there are people 755 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: who love me. You have so many people who love you. 756 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: People you don't even know who love you. There are 757 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: little brown girls from watching you right now, inspire by you, 758 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: happy to hear you say how beautiful you are and 759 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: what is wrong with everybody else? You gave me confidence 760 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: in this podcast. Imagine what you're doing for people day. 761 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 3: In and day out. 762 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: And I'm a good old grown woman, Like I love 763 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 1: the way she moved, I love her confidence. Let me 764 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: take some of this today. I need this. Thank you. 765 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: You are walking inspiration and I know it's not easy. 766 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: I ask because I want to know your techniques and 767 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: it is very similar to what made you great. 768 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 4: You're very disciplined. 769 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: It takes a minute, like we don't always get it 770 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: right away, but when we get it, we get it. 771 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,439 Speaker 2: No, you're right about that, and like I said, I'm 772 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 2: still wrong, but I'm happy with where I'm not. 773 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 4: I'm happy for you. 774 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: The movie comes out Christmas Day. The Fire inside Ryan, 775 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: Destiny is there. We talk about coach Jason, and we 776 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: talk about that relationship up, you talk about growing up. 777 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to give any of any of it away, 778 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: but if you're inspired by this podcast, you most definitely 779 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: will be inspired by this movie. Clarissa Shields, thank you 780 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: so much for being you. You're needed. 781 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me appreciate you. 782 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: Naked Sports written and executive produced by me Kerry Champion, 783 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: produced by Jock Vice Thomas sound Design and mastered by 784 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: Dwayne Crawford. Associate producer Olubusayl Shabby. Naked Sports is a 785 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: part of the Black Effect podcast network in iHeartMedia