Speaker 1: Before we get started, I did want to warn you
Speaker 1: there are Emancipation spoilers ahead. So if you haven't watched
Speaker 1: Emancipation yet, paulse this episode, watch Emancipation on Apple TV
Speaker 1: and then don't forget to come back and hear the
Speaker 1: insights Gammy had to share with us. Hey y'all, Hey,
Speaker 1: what's up? And welcome to Let's Red Table that I'm
Speaker 1: Tracy t wrote and I'm Cara Pressley, and boy, what
Speaker 1: a truly special episode we have today. Tracy ay Man
Speaker 1: Will Smith came to the table bringing all three of
Speaker 1: his kids with him to talk about his new movie,
Speaker 1: Emancipation that just came out on Apple TV. He really
Speaker 1: dug deep for this role and this Red Table Talk exclusive.
Speaker 1: And now we get to bring a Red Table Talk
Speaker 1: host who wasn't at the Red Table, so she has
Speaker 1: to come to the virtual Red Table for the recap.
Speaker 1: Welcome the one and only gimme. Hey, guys, thank you
Speaker 1: for having me. Yeah, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 1: All right, well, let's jump into our favorite segments. It's
Speaker 1: my favorite part of the show. Wait what okay? This
Speaker 1: is the part of the show where we reveal which
Speaker 1: moments made us pause rewind and listen again. So let's
Speaker 1: get into it. Tracy want to kick it off. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Since the trailer dropped, we've been told that Emancipation is
Speaker 1: not just another slave movie. And at the Red Table,
Speaker 1: Will said when the first teaser came out, as people
Speaker 1: were like, why another slave movie, and it's like, this
Speaker 1: is not a slave movie, this is a freedom movie.
Speaker 1: I love that because it's so true. Did Emancipation feel
Speaker 1: like a freedom movie to you, Gammy? Absolutely? Absolutely, it
Speaker 1: felt like a freedom movie, and it felt like a
Speaker 1: history lesson. I agree. You know, it was really important
Speaker 1: for us to see the struggle and remember the resilience
Speaker 1: and power that we have as a community and a culture.
Speaker 1: And that's what I want people to see in the movie.
Speaker 1: I want them to see the power of faith that
Speaker 1: was really strong in in that movie. It also helped
Speaker 1: me understand how religion's so grounded in our culture. That
Speaker 1: was the way we survived. But it was really depicted
Speaker 1: so beautifully there, and it was almost hard to understand,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because when you're struggling like
Speaker 1: that and going through those kinds of wow, tumultuous times,
Speaker 1: it's like that kind of brutality like, how can you
Speaker 1: survive it? So that was really powerful for me. So
Speaker 1: it was faith, freedom, resilience, black love, right, family, that's
Speaker 1: the undercut for me. The backstory is the black love
Speaker 1: because he did everything for his family. Yeah. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was the being fed up like we we all go through,
Speaker 1: and of course we're not dealing with that level of
Speaker 1: well stress. However, the moment he got fed up and
Speaker 1: decided to retaliate, I definitely resonated with that because we
Speaker 1: all said, what if I fought back? I did this,
Speaker 1: I did that, and to see it for that time
Speaker 1: was powerful. How do you feel about slave films being
Speaker 1: made today? Not emancipation but just other slave films? Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: I feel like it is really important, but I do
Speaker 1: understand people's resistance to it. But it is part of
Speaker 1: our history. No, it is not our entire history, but
Speaker 1: it is the beginning an important part of our history
Speaker 1: here in America. And we can't forget it. We cannot
Speaker 1: because I'm telling you, and I think even Jaden said
Speaker 1: it in the show, and I say it all the time.
Speaker 1: Those who forget are doomed to repeat, repeat it. The
Speaker 1: normalization of bigotry and racism in America. That is continue
Speaker 1: wing today is dangerous and so for me it is
Speaker 1: really important, not so much for people in my generation,
Speaker 1: but for younger people because they think it's so far removed.
Speaker 1: It is not. It is not, and we are living
Speaker 1: and dealing with this today. Now I'm gonna say this,
Speaker 1: and you all can cut it if you want, But
Speaker 1: this past Saturday in New York City, there was a
Speaker 1: gathering of white supremacists and white nationalists at a very
Speaker 1: fancy gathering and dinner. They were there to support one
Speaker 1: another and to strategize, right, okay, and that is dangerous
Speaker 1: and dangerous. It is dangerous, and we can't forget that.
Speaker 1: So we have to remember who we are and take
Speaker 1: these moments to help bring us together as a community,
Speaker 1: as a culture, as as a race, because if we don't,
Speaker 1: we're not going to survive. And if we can ever
Speaker 1: put all of that aside, all of our differences just
Speaker 1: within our culture aside and come together as a community
Speaker 1: and as a culture, the power that we have, baby man,
Speaker 1: it's unstoppable. It's unstoppable, and we are missing it. We
Speaker 1: are missing the importance. We are totally missing. And young people,
Speaker 1: let me tell you, they're worried about the wrong ship,
Speaker 1: say it again, worried about the wrong style. It is
Speaker 1: the truth. I had a conversation earlier about this, and
Speaker 1: I think that's why emancipation is right on time, because
Speaker 1: there's so many people who are so far removed either
Speaker 1: by time in generation, but also not being exposed to
Speaker 1: it in proximity that they put themselves in a suburban environment,
Speaker 1: they don't have to deal with any of the things.
Speaker 1: They're not quote unquote seen as people of color, are
Speaker 1: black people, so they don't feel the true pressures that
Speaker 1: are out in society until they get fully exposed, and
Speaker 1: then they're literally blindsided by it and don't know how
Speaker 1: to handle it. So this was a phenomenal for everyone.
Speaker 1: And listen, it was important for the Smith family to
Speaker 1: see it, m okay, because they're removed. Yes, they're removed,
Speaker 1: and they have individually had their experiences though, but it's important.
Speaker 1: It is just important because sometimes you get caught up
Speaker 1: in your everyday life and if you are not subjected
Speaker 1: to it, you kind of forget what's going on for
Speaker 1: the average person. You are so right, and if you're
Speaker 1: growing up black in America or if you're living black
Speaker 1: in America. You are suffering from PTSD, yes and period. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's a fact, no cap Yeah, yeah, So I think
Speaker 1: it's important. I think that it's important that these stories
Speaker 1: continue to be told. And yes, we have so many
Speaker 1: more stories that need to be told. But trust me
Speaker 1: and believe that there were students in that room that
Speaker 1: are creatives, that are future filmmakers, that are future writers
Speaker 1: and directors and cinematographers, and they need to see that
Speaker 1: and then be inspired to create other stories. The stories
Speaker 1: that we have to tell. We have to tell our
Speaker 1: own stories, but we also have to teach our own history.
Speaker 1: We're sitting around waiting for somebody else to teach us
Speaker 1: our history. No, that's our job. It's our responsibility. In
Speaker 1: your own family, yeah, you have to responsibility for what
Speaker 1: your children are exposed to. You can't expect them to
Speaker 1: get it. You ain't in around for them to get
Speaker 1: in school. You'll be waiting a long damn time. You
Speaker 1: will just have you'll die before you get to exactly.
Speaker 1: Absolutely listen, when we'll explain how he feel on his
Speaker 1: character that was empowering, I'm gonna say number one because
Speaker 1: he chose to dig deep. It won't be too much
Speaker 1: work to find this character putting the chains on. As
Speaker 1: an actor, you're always trying to find the thing that
Speaker 1: makes you understand the character. When those chains went on,
Speaker 1: can you imagine even wearing those? And then the additional
Speaker 1: chains he shared at the table. The part that stuck
Speaker 1: out the most was when he said, who even imagines this?
Speaker 1: You know? So that's why when white culture is like, oh,
Speaker 1: let's just forget about it. Let's not forget about it.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about how you even thought about it? So, yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly what is that experience? Like, what do you think
Speaker 1: about those chains? Oh? Man? You know it was. It
Speaker 1: was so emotional. It was so emotional and hard to
Speaker 1: sit there and watch the movie. And I think what
Speaker 1: a young lady in the audience that had a question
Speaker 1: for Will also talked about the fact that it's one
Speaker 1: thing to read it, yes, but then you see it
Speaker 1: kind of come to life, and that's just I mean,
Speaker 1: And that was lightweight, right, light that was lightweight to
Speaker 1: what we know really what's going on? Right, that's right?
Speaker 1: I had no words. It's that heartbreaking. Yeah, when Will
Speaker 1: said they lost the key for a minute, so they
Speaker 1: put it on and doing so I'm standing there and
Speaker 1: then he goes to take it off and it doesn't work,
Speaker 1: so it's locked on and my heart jumps and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh no, oh no, oh no. So I'm sitting there
Speaker 1: now he's running around looking for the keys, and for
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, I'm stuck there in the chain and my
Speaker 1: heart is pounding, and I'm like, will do not freak right?
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there and then it's like I got it.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm Will Smith with Pete both running around
Speaker 1: looking for Keen and my heart is still pounding and
Speaker 1: I'm still scared. Imagine what it was like for Peter
Speaker 1: to have that stuff on. Oh my gosh. I felt
Speaker 1: that anxiety and that claustrophobia anxiousness with him, even his
Speaker 1: piece when he said he felt embarrassed, I feel as
Speaker 1: though he felt embarrassed to maybe even react like you,
Speaker 1: because they want you to be subdued right in these
Speaker 1: chains and night have any emotion that's baffling to me.
Speaker 1: I hope that people really watch this episode of Red Table,
Speaker 1: because it's important for people to understand what goes into
Speaker 1: making a film like that and how deep you have
Speaker 1: to go to just to try to get close to authenticity, yes,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, just close to authenticity. When Ben Farster
Speaker 1: was talking and Will was talking about the fact that
Speaker 1: he never spoke to him, how could it be that
Speaker 1: they could work and do scenes like that to the
Speaker 1: level that they did it and then be laughing and
Speaker 1: joking at this word. It wouldn't work. It wouldn't have worked.
Speaker 1: I think that it made it even more effective and
Speaker 1: believable that Ben Foster took the approach he did because
Speaker 1: he stayed so deep into his character. And if that
Speaker 1: is the antithesis of who you really are, I imagine
Speaker 1: that you have to have some constant reminder of the
Speaker 1: brutality of the hatred that feeds that type of character
Speaker 1: as an antagonist. And so the wait what for me?
Speaker 1: When he talked about hen who played that antagonist and
Speaker 1: he was the antagonist of all antagonists and emancipation not
Speaker 1: knowing Will until the final shot was complete, that was powerful.
Speaker 1: I'm doing my you know thing, and the extras, Hey,
Speaker 1: thank you all very much, everybody, blah blah blah. In
Speaker 1: my mind, I was giving my best Will Smith, and
Speaker 1: Ben just walked past me and didn't say nothing. I
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, he must he must not have seen me,
Speaker 1: and then for six months, he didn't speak to me,
Speaker 1: he didn't make eye contact with me, he didn't say
Speaker 1: a word, he didn't acknowledge me for six months. Okay,
Speaker 1: even though it was for the film, seems like this
Speaker 1: added to how emotionally draining this production would have been
Speaker 1: for Will. I cannot imagine tapping out of the day,
Speaker 1: and like he said, he was reaching back trying to
Speaker 1: find himself and couldn't always make that connection. How does
Speaker 1: hearing some of those behind the scenes stories affect how
Speaker 1: you viewed the film as a whole gaming Oh, because
Speaker 1: there were times when they had to break from film
Speaker 1: because of weather and stuff like that. I knew what
Speaker 1: was going on, and I had those conversations with him
Speaker 1: during those break periods, and all I could do was
Speaker 1: just sit and listen. That's all I could do, was
Speaker 1: just sit and listen, because I just couldn't imagine. I
Speaker 1: just couldn't imagine putting myself in those circumstances and going
Speaker 1: back there. Like you said, the brutality and violence and
Speaker 1: dehumanization that was experienced during the times, it's just unimaginable.
Speaker 1: It's just like right now, just us thinking about what
Speaker 1: we saw what our own people experience because their stories
Speaker 1: that are like Peters throughout all of our family histories
Speaker 1: are lineage exactly. That's the hardest part about it. And
Speaker 1: you can forget about it if we want to, but
Speaker 1: it's still there. It's still there, critical race theory, teaching
Speaker 1: or not exactly. Listen, we're gonna take a quick break
Speaker 1: because it's just getting juicy, so listen. But when we
Speaker 1: get back, we're gonna ask him all the questions we've
Speaker 1: been saving up this season. So stay tuned. We're back,
Speaker 1: and let's just talk about what we all overall felt
Speaker 1: and what we thought of emancipation. Was there a scene
Speaker 1: or a moment of emancipation that really stood out to
Speaker 1: you guys? Oh my god, pick one, right, I can
Speaker 1: kick it off. I'm gonna kick it off. One of
Speaker 1: the things that stood out for me, of course, was
Speaker 1: just the overall color of the movie. The cinematography was
Speaker 1: amazing and eliminating. That color really helped me focused on
Speaker 1: the story more so. I was appreciative of that, because
Speaker 1: who knew I needed that. I have so many dudes,
Speaker 1: I have three that are my top three. Okay, do
Speaker 1: you know what, let me say this. I have felt
Speaker 1: like you have been my voice this entire season, because
Speaker 1: almost everything you've said this season, I'll be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, gam I gave Side I to the person
Speaker 1: forever Side I, just like damn gave you. So you
Speaker 1: forget it. So go ahead and say three game because
Speaker 1: I think we'll probably align with this too. Probably. So
Speaker 1: one of the ones was because I saw the film
Speaker 1: before it was totally complete, and then I went to
Speaker 1: the premier and saw it and this scene was not
Speaker 1: in there, and so it shocked me. And that when
Speaker 1: was when Dodienne put her hand into the cotton gin
Speaker 1: to maim herself. That through me the extent that black
Speaker 1: women have to go through and the suffering, like she
Speaker 1: maimed herself to save her family because she was gonna
Speaker 1: get sold away, right to stay. So it was that.
Speaker 1: The second one was when the little girl cried runner
Speaker 1: runner mm hmm, I said, who knew? This is when
Speaker 1: Karen's were born. That is taught, Hate is taught. And
Speaker 1: then Ben Foster's scene again proof that hate is taught,
Speaker 1: when they were at the campfire and he was talking
Speaker 1: about the woman that cared for him. But the important
Speaker 1: thing was his statement of if you give them a crumb,
Speaker 1: they'll take the world. There are people that still believe
Speaker 1: that to this day to day. The thing, that's the thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the scary part. We're on the same scene now,
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't know about the hand, but now
Speaker 1: the campfire scene was one of my favorites because it
Speaker 1: showed how Ben Foster's character was this loving and he
Speaker 1: knew he was being taken care of, he was being
Speaker 1: nurtured by this person. And he's like, it's something so
Speaker 1: simple as let's just share a meal together, and the
Speaker 1: dad was like, and then what no compassion at all?
Speaker 1: And then even though she's raising you, the lack of
Speaker 1: there's a detachment. It was just hard because at that moment,
Speaker 1: that was his breaking that was his breaking point, that
Speaker 1: was the turning point for him and the point of
Speaker 1: no return right at a younger and watched her die
Speaker 1: for three days three days, so that means you went
Speaker 1: to check. Like a part of him was like, well
Speaker 1: let me well, okay, that makes it worse. That makes
Speaker 1: it worse. And I can tell you that while at
Speaker 1: the campfire. Of course, now y'all know there's always gonna
Speaker 1: be one who's got the same scan but not can.
Speaker 1: That's another part in that whole same scene that made
Speaker 1: me sick because I was not looking at you. The
Speaker 1: other slave just said that you two were slaves together
Speaker 1: and now here you are helping him. Okay, that's a
Speaker 1: whole We can have a whole another weight conversation that too.
Speaker 1: But that was his means of survival. That was his
Speaker 1: means of survival, as ugly as it is and as
Speaker 1: as difficult, but he's just trying to get through. You had,
Speaker 1: Gammy that watching emancipation was emotional for you. Were you
Speaker 1: surprised at all by your reactions to it? No, No,
Speaker 1: you knew I lived through the Civil Rights and so no,
Speaker 1: I was not surprised at how I felt. I feel
Speaker 1: the same way whenever I see one, no matter whether
Speaker 1: it's well done or poorly done, I understand the intent.
Speaker 1: What do you think it means as a black woman
Speaker 1: in America? Well, I have to go back to that
Speaker 1: scene with Dodien. But I also think about the statement
Speaker 1: that Trevor Noah made recently, is that black women can't
Speaker 1: afford to sit around and find out right and that
Speaker 1: and that really resonated when Dodiene maimed herself but I
Speaker 1: also think about that Malcolm X quote from all those
Speaker 1: years ago, the black woman is the most disrespected, disrespect
Speaker 1: the most unprotected, the most neglected. So all of that
Speaker 1: kind of comes into my head when I'm watching the film.
Speaker 1: But once again, for me, the most important thing for
Speaker 1: us to remember is that this is part of our history,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to be used as a way to
Speaker 1: bring us together and not separate us. Now, how do
Speaker 1: you think that? How does that happen conversations like this? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's conversations. I think it's education. I think
Speaker 1: we have to educate ourselves and try to regain some
Speaker 1: pride in who we are and what we bring to
Speaker 1: the table and who we can be. It starts at home,
Speaker 1: that part. It starts at home. That's big. And you
Speaker 1: even saw it through Peter, through Will's character, because there
Speaker 1: were several instances where he remained true to him through
Speaker 1: his kindness, and the movie opens up with him choosing
Speaker 1: to help someone working right alongside him, so he was
Speaker 1: able to stay himself Peter anyway throughout his character. We
Speaker 1: got to ask this because people are talking, what did
Speaker 1: you think of Will's accent? Did you get to hear
Speaker 1: him practice it beforehand, because you know he's immersed in
Speaker 1: these roles. I didn't. I did not get to hear
Speaker 1: him practice his accent, and mind you, I didn't know
Speaker 1: what he should sound like. I'm not familiar with that accent.
Speaker 1: But my father was from Barbados, my mother was from Jamaica,
Speaker 1: and I cannot do a West Indian accent if you
Speaker 1: pay me right. And my nephew speaks Patois to me
Speaker 1: all the time just to make me laugh because he
Speaker 1: knows I love to hear him speak that way, but
Speaker 1: I can't do it. Accents and dialects are difficult and challenging.
Speaker 1: So if he didn't get it exactly like, Okay, he
Speaker 1: tried and he did his best, that is a minor situation.
Speaker 1: It is you know what I mean that, Gammy. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just back you up here, because for all of
Speaker 1: the films that I have watched and people have butchered
Speaker 1: the southern accent, I'm gonna give will a pass. Are
Speaker 1: very very difficult, Like come on, and here's the other
Speaker 1: part of it. If you don't know where he's supposed
Speaker 1: to be from, then you don't have any familiarity with
Speaker 1: what he's supposed to sound. There's that. I loved it. Listen.
Speaker 1: He couldn't do any wrong. The execution was there was
Speaker 1: so much more other things to focus on. Whether his
Speaker 1: accent was quite right? Please understood? Yeah, I want to
Speaker 1: hear somebody say, y'all executed. Listen. We do want to
Speaker 1: ask you if you red Table Talk questions that he
Speaker 1: building from the past five seasons Jesus from the past
Speaker 1: five seasons of Red Table Talk. So to start. This
Speaker 1: is a good one though, because this is one of
Speaker 1: my favorite episodes is the very first episode of Red
Speaker 1: Table Talk. It discusses all things motherhood. Okay, so from
Speaker 1: blended families to how your mother daughter relationships have evolved.
Speaker 1: You touched on a few of your own specific struggles
Speaker 1: and impactful moments with each other. Then it came full
Speaker 1: circle with the mother Hunger episode this season. That was
Speaker 1: an amazing, amazing episode. What have been the most impactful
Speaker 1: discoveries that you've made on this Red Table Talk journey
Speaker 1: of introspection. It's interesting because I had someone asked me
Speaker 1: this question recently of how is it that I can
Speaker 1: just gracefully sit and listen when Jada is talking about
Speaker 1: her journey and her childhood and how she felt neglected
Speaker 1: and uncared for and unprotected, and that I just I
Speaker 1: sit and listen to it and receive it. The only
Speaker 1: thing that I can say about that is that it
Speaker 1: is part of the healing process. To try to defend
Speaker 1: yourself against something like that is almost negating what the
Speaker 1: other person has experienced. That was her experience, and so
Speaker 1: me being able to listen to that, here that and
Speaker 1: accept it as her truth is important for me to
Speaker 1: understand the damage that I did, how I did it,
Speaker 1: so that I don't repeat the same mistakes. So it's
Speaker 1: part of our healing journey. And when I can sit
Speaker 1: and have compassion and grace for her, then I can
Speaker 1: have it for myself. Now, Jada would tell you that
Speaker 1: it's the other way around, that I have to have
Speaker 1: compassion for myself in order to have compassion for others.
Speaker 1: I just don't see it that way. I think that
Speaker 1: my ability to have compassion for other people than allow
Speaker 1: me to have compassion for myself, because I don't know
Speaker 1: if there's anyone who's harder on themselves than I am,
Speaker 1: and I still am to this day. I still carry
Speaker 1: people think that I am totally completely relieved of guilt
Speaker 1: from the damage that I've done. Absolutely not. I don't
Speaker 1: know that I ever will be, but I've learned to
Speaker 1: grow from it. Jada has taught me that all experiences,
Speaker 1: good and bad, help create and make you the person
Speaker 1: that you are. Absolutely but trust me, if I could
Speaker 1: have done it, I wish I could have done it differently.
Speaker 1: There is no parent on the face of the earth
Speaker 1: that doesn't say that, no matter what, they had to
Speaker 1: overcome me. I mean, that's a fact. So I appreciate
Speaker 1: you being in the position, though, to take those experiences
Speaker 1: and learn from them and grow a lot of that
Speaker 1: also is just how I was raised, was how I
Speaker 1: raised Jada. Even though my mother obviously did not suffer
Speaker 1: from any form of addiction, there was still a way
Speaker 1: that she had with us. How she cared for us
Speaker 1: and handled us was not the tender, loving way that
Speaker 1: Jada mothered her children. You give as much as you
Speaker 1: can give, and that circumstance, You know what I mean
Speaker 1: When you look back as a mother and not me,
Speaker 1: I'm a mother of a twenty year old boys, he
Speaker 1: taught me some things. When you look back and you
Speaker 1: just recognize I did do my best and then we
Speaker 1: just continue to evolve. That helps the process because, like
Speaker 1: you said again, we all absolutely beating ourselves up or
Speaker 1: wishing and shooting, and could we have done all of
Speaker 1: us When you welcome Olivia Ja Gia Nali to the table,
Speaker 1: you were very against it, and I was with you.
Speaker 1: Your parents are gonna go in and they're gonna do
Speaker 1: their sixty days and they're gonna pay their fine, and
Speaker 1: you guys will go on and you'll be okay and
Speaker 1: you will live your life. And there's so many of
Speaker 1: us that it is not going to be that situation.
Speaker 1: It just makes it very difficult right now for me
Speaker 1: to care. Less than a year later, Olivia got a
Speaker 1: spot on Dancing with the Stars proven your viral claim
Speaker 1: when you said, at the end of the day, I
Speaker 1: really feel like she's gonna be okay, you know, and
Speaker 1: she's going to recover whether her ass was sitting at
Speaker 1: this table or not, and you were right, okay, So
Speaker 1: now how do you feel about her and haven't had
Speaker 1: her at the table? What you think? I don't feel
Speaker 1: any differently. I knew then she was gonna be all right.
Speaker 1: She was gonna be all right, whether she got Dancing
Speaker 1: with the stars or not. That's the thing. That's the
Speaker 1: thing she and her family were gonna be okay, And
Speaker 1: that grace and that ability to move forward with almost
Speaker 1: a clean slate is not something that most African Americans
Speaker 1: are given. We're not giving the same forgiveness, the same
Speaker 1: grace when we make our mistakes, that some of those
Speaker 1: things we take to the grave and even from our
Speaker 1: own not just from you know, but even within the community.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, even when your peers are at
Speaker 1: the top, you know, we can be very judgmental and unforgiving.
Speaker 1: Poking poke Chop didn't get the nickname Pokin polk Chop
Speaker 1: for no reason exactly. So I don't so at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I don't feel any differently about Olivia.
Speaker 1: But that is the point of the red table, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. If we all agree with everything,
Speaker 1: then what's the conversation. That's true. I was with your center.
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, the last thing this girl needs
Speaker 1: is a dog on platform. But okay, and not a
Speaker 1: platform from black widow, Like really, listen, well, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: If she had it, we can only have our platform,
Speaker 1: but the other women as well, or any other women
Speaker 1: like I don't think because it's not wrong that she
Speaker 1: got a new start, Absolutely not right. She just don't
Speaker 1: have to do it. All good black women are tired
Speaker 1: of saving the world. Hell yeah, come on, it is
Speaker 1: all good. It's all good. She's not the only one
Speaker 1: that came on there that I didn't think should be
Speaker 1: on there. And don't be asked to who else, because
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. I wasn't going there. I was
Speaker 1: not going there. You did tease it up, jazz. Nope, listeners,
Speaker 1: don't you know? Tune in next time for boring tea
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Speaker 1: me about a year ago, I got to ask you
Speaker 1: what your favorite role of Jada's is. You know you're
Speaker 1: proud of Jada. Do you have a favorite role she played? Oh? God,
Speaker 1: go ahead, Yil. What I want to know now is
Speaker 1: is just still your answer? And secondly, what made you
Speaker 1: so confident that Jada would succeed in Hollywood? Okay? Yes,
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Speaker 1: is such a great I love to see her in comedy.
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Speaker 1: Jason's lyrics set it off your name. But I also
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Speaker 1: things when it comes to her career is actually Red
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Speaker 1: her and to share her journey of healing and recovery
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Speaker 1: started out for just the three of us, for Jada,
Speaker 1: Willow and I and then expanded out in to the
Speaker 1: world and a community and everything. Just what just when
Speaker 1: it's taking to the world, Just being able to open
Speaker 1: up conversation like that, I think was really important work.
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Speaker 1: growth that I've had from watching those episodes has helped me.
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Speaker 1: thank you, yeahing me, thank you. Yes, there's so much
Speaker 1: more we could talk about, because I mean, we have
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Speaker 1: know that we want you to come back. It's what
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Speaker 1: So we want to thank you, thank you for having
Speaker 1: me on. I was glad to be here, glad to
Speaker 1: have this conversation, particularly about Emancipation, which is such an
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