WEBVTT - NFL REPORT: Quick learner Lamar Jackson, Bengals in trouble?, Sean Payton’s dilemma

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<v Speaker 1>Week two of the NFL Report is here. I'm see

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<v Speaker 1>White and my guy James Palmer rocking the terra cotta

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<v Speaker 1>right there as he is back in Denver after a

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<v Speaker 1>long flight back from.

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Jpe, we got a lot going on because you're usually

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<v Speaker 1>Week two is a.

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<v Speaker 2>Much more truth teller than week one.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, we can kind of read the tea leaves, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think we can see what some teams like Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>and Miami might be. He's like, Dallas, do we really

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<v Speaker 1>know they're too?

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<v Speaker 2>Well know how good they are? Wet? Still a ton

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<v Speaker 2>of unanswered questions?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, see, how about this if we're telling the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>What's your take on Skyline Chili in Cincinnati?

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<v Speaker 2>Skyline Chili is good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also but I'm probably a bigger gold Star fan myself.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't want to insult anybody in our audience.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that there's there's a lot of touchy feelings

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<v Speaker 1>about that. Do you like chili on spaghetti?

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<v Speaker 2>JP?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I skip halftime meal in the press box when

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<v Speaker 3>I'm there at Peay Course Stadium. I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 3>A double up pregame pre game was good. I double

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<v Speaker 3>up pre game, get a little something extra. There was

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<v Speaker 3>sticky buns up there this time, even though I told

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<v Speaker 3>that's a Philly thing when you say sticky buns too often,

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<v Speaker 3>cinnamon roll, whatever you want to call it. I call

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<v Speaker 3>them all sticky buttons. But I had an extra one

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<v Speaker 3>of those, so I wouldn't do the skyline stuff at halftime,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>And and everybody watching and listening, they're like, oh, these

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<v Speaker 1>sports writers, they get fed. They don't I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear them complain about anything. Well, you know that's

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<v Speaker 1>part of the issue. I'm sure you want to complain

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<v Speaker 1>about the fact that we also get to watch football

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<v Speaker 1>for a living.

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<v Speaker 2>Shame me.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw a fantastic display of what this Ravens offense

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<v Speaker 1>could look like when they went and they beat Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this was a huge game.

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<v Speaker 1>You heard John Harbaugh talk about it's a big game,

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<v Speaker 1>players talking about how how sweet it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was to send the Bengals to an zero and two start.

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<v Speaker 1>You were there, and you were texting me during the game, like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Lamar looks really good.

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<v Speaker 2>This offense is serious stuff. Tell us a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>about what you.

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<v Speaker 3>Saw, man, Yeah, pregame, Steve and I think I was

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<v Speaker 3>on with you pregame. Also, when I was talking to

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<v Speaker 3>that commend members of the coaching staff and they're like, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>Lamar is not comfortable in this offense. Shed We're not

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<v Speaker 3>sure how long it's gonna take. We're gonna see how

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<v Speaker 3>the process goes. But obviously this is very different. He

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<v Speaker 3>didn't play in the preseason, so Week one was really

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<v Speaker 3>our first opportunity to see him go out there and

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<v Speaker 3>operate in it. We didn't see him run at all.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was really interesting. When I talked to

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<v Speaker 3>Zay Flowers, the rookie wide receiver, he was like, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>that was the plan for Lamar not to run. The

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<v Speaker 3>plan was for him to sit back there, get comfortable, Steve,

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<v Speaker 3>get a feel for this offense, sitting in the pocket,

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<v Speaker 3>because why, he knows he can run right, he knows

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<v Speaker 3>you can find ways to go out there and create

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<v Speaker 3>and make plays. He wanted to sit back there and

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<v Speaker 3>feel it. And what did we see in week two?

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<v Speaker 3>We saw him go out there and have an extremely

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<v Speaker 3>balanced attack. I think that's the difference. When I talked

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<v Speaker 3>to Mark Andrews after the game, he was like, now

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<v Speaker 3>that we have these receivers on the outside, life's easier

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<v Speaker 3>for him in the middle. You have explosive players on

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<v Speaker 3>the outside. You saw after the interception bang right to

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<v Speaker 3>a fifty two yard reception by Jay Flowers to go deep.

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<v Speaker 3>Lamar Jackson was accurate. He was comfortable. If they're wondering

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<v Speaker 3>how long it's going to take him to get comfortable offense,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Week three. Now, they're so balanced because

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<v Speaker 3>at the back end of this game, what did they do?

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<v Speaker 3>They just kept the Bengals off the field. Lamar ran

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<v Speaker 3>the football. They ran the football even when Cincinnati knew

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<v Speaker 3>they were going to run the football. I think this

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<v Speaker 3>is a really fun, interesting offense to watch now because

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<v Speaker 3>of the balance it has.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's interesting about that is they were down two

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<v Speaker 1>starting offensive linemen right the center, Tyler Linderbaum.

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<v Speaker 3>Center.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean this was this was we were wondering

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<v Speaker 1>before the game, you want a pregame show with me.

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<v Speaker 2>JP were like, well, Lamar.

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<v Speaker 1>Is gonna be on his horse all day because these

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<v Speaker 1>these Bengals rushers are going to be all over him.

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<v Speaker 1>He was on his horse on scalded runs and because

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<v Speaker 1>that's what may have opened up because this offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>held up well, that is a positive sign because we

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<v Speaker 1>know left tackle Ronnie Stanley has had injury issues to

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<v Speaker 1>his legs for years. So if they can have somebody

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<v Speaker 1>come in and feel incapably, that's fantastic. But the balance,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when the Ravens work right. When they have to

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<v Speaker 1>rely you know, one dimensional running too much or throwing

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<v Speaker 1>too much, that's not them. But also, and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to get this back to you, Zay Flowers. You saw

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<v Speaker 1>Odell Beckham go out with an ankle injury. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how significant that is, but the rookie wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>out of Boston College seems to open up this offense,

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<v Speaker 1>open up the.

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<v Speaker 2>Field for Mark Andrews across the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>What impact could he make because they have not had

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<v Speaker 1>not only a deep threat like him, but a route

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<v Speaker 1>runner like him, maybe a Lamar's tenure.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the thing, And there's already such a it looks

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<v Speaker 3>like chemistry and connection between him Lamar Jackson's nine catches

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<v Speaker 3>in the first week like from a rookie wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 3>The interesting part about Zay real Quick is that he

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<v Speaker 3>already can line up in every single receiver spot they have.

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<v Speaker 3>He can play the X, he can play the Y.

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<v Speaker 3>He can be a different member of a trips group,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the number two of the three. He can

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<v Speaker 3>line up in the backfield. His versatility in that sense

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<v Speaker 3>and understanding of the offense and being able to do

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<v Speaker 3>that is extremely important and really impressive this early. But

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<v Speaker 3>what they're impressed with Steve is how strong he is

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<v Speaker 3>for his size for a little Yeah, guys on the

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<v Speaker 3>coaching staff, they were like, you know what he can do.

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<v Speaker 3>He can't get tackled, and that's pretty important. Is he's

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<v Speaker 3>hard to tackle and I look like he's gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>that explosive player to add into making this a layered

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<v Speaker 3>offense with Mark Andrews as well. As we talk about offenses,

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<v Speaker 3>talk about explosive plays. That's usually what we talk about

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<v Speaker 3>with the Cincinnati Bengals, but we have not seen that

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<v Speaker 3>very much. We saw them get better offensively in the

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<v Speaker 3>second half, but what we also saw in the second

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<v Speaker 3>half was Joe Burrow reaggravating that calf injury. I was

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<v Speaker 3>in the press room to hear him say this postgame.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, when when your quarterback missus camp, it's it's tough

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<v Speaker 4>to it's tough to start fast, it's it's not an

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<v Speaker 4>ideal situation. Yeah, I'm still confident. I feel really confident

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<v Speaker 4>in all the guys we have in that room. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I said, we're gonna have to see how that

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<v Speaker 4>feels the next couple of days. It's pretty sore right now,

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<v Speaker 4>but no telling how it's gonna feel sorrow. I think

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<v Speaker 4>we're gonna take it day by day.

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<v Speaker 3>Steve. This is a team that we were not very

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<v Speaker 3>concerned with starting oh to one. Now they're zero in two,

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<v Speaker 3>which is what they did, I believe last year. So

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<v Speaker 3>what's your take watching this game? Watching a Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 3>contender start not just oh and two, oh and two

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<v Speaker 3>in the division?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean JP.

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<v Speaker 1>Normally i'd be like, you know, they're gonna be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>This seems a little different. There's a feel to it.

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<v Speaker 2>And you were there, not me, but in pregame again,

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<v Speaker 2>you were on the pregame.

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<v Speaker 1>Show with us on our game day preview show with

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Ciliano and me, and you said, I have been

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<v Speaker 1>watching him warm up and he doesn't look right.

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<v Speaker 2>That calf did not look right. You saw that pregame.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he aggravates it during the game, and then we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing him and for those of you listening on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got the thera gun kind of gunning and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get it loose, you know, after he's staying this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the injury, the aggravation.

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<v Speaker 2>This seems like it might be something that could linger.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you say to yourself, well, will they shut

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<v Speaker 2>him down?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, because Burrell said, we have to figure wait

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<v Speaker 1>a couple days to see what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not Joe Burrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow is usually not that open about how he

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<v Speaker 1>physically feels.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you hear a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of athletes like that talk about that they know something,

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<v Speaker 1>they know something, and so maybe they have to shut

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<v Speaker 1>him down or maybe this is gonna be an issue

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<v Speaker 1>for several weeks, if not for longer, that he has

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<v Speaker 1>to work through. And we know, if Joe Burrow is

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<v Speaker 1>not at full strength with some of the pressure that

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<v Speaker 1>they allow on him, this could be something where the

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<v Speaker 1>folks in Cincinnati, and the words of the great animated

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<v Speaker 1>legend Scooby Doo say rut Row.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, say it again, Steve Row. There we go. Listen.

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<v Speaker 3>This was a dejected locker room. There was definitely a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of confidence after the first loss. This one was

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit different, and I don't think it's because

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<v Speaker 3>they're Row and two. When I had side conversations with players,

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<v Speaker 3>it was Steve, I have a fear that this is

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<v Speaker 3>going to linger, like that's my concern, that this calf

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<v Speaker 3>thing is going to linger with Joe Burrow and that's

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<v Speaker 3>going to impact our ability to get out of this

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<v Speaker 3>own two start. I don't think anybody in that locker

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<v Speaker 3>room doubts Joe Burrow as a player, doubts that he's

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<v Speaker 3>one of the best quarterbacks and players in football, that

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<v Speaker 3>this offense can still be one of the best offenses

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<v Speaker 3>in football. We've just seen too much success out of

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<v Speaker 3>this group, right, That's not their concern. Their concern in

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<v Speaker 3>these conversations I was having in the locker room were man,

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<v Speaker 3>I hope this doesn't linger like I feel like that

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<v Speaker 3>might be the case. And that is the major concern

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<v Speaker 3>because you saw them in the second half. Steve, after

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<v Speaker 3>a slow start, I talked to Orlando Brown Junior, is like,

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<v Speaker 3>we wanted to get out to a quick start. They

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<v Speaker 3>barely had the ball. They had the ball for eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>plays and that first half the Ravens had forty seven

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<v Speaker 3>plays in the first half. The second half, they started

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<v Speaker 3>stringing together some drives. They really did, and then this happened.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's where really, to me, the major concern is

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<v Speaker 3>everybody says Joe Burrow is the next peg down, and

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<v Speaker 3>I believe they say Steve from Patrick Mahones, who on

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<v Speaker 3>his birthday goes out and gets his sixty fifth career

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<v Speaker 3>win over the Jags, a game that I thought was

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a shootout and it was just the opposite.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and that's in part JP because this Kansas City

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs defense, which typically slow plays it's development into being

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<v Speaker 1>very good, is off to a great start. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they get Chris Jones back and he plays thirty four

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<v Speaker 1>plays and none of us really thought he was going to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, completely dominate.

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<v Speaker 2>Well he did. He did. And once again, to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to our pregame conversation, that's where I said. One

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<v Speaker 1>thing about Chris Jones when we talk about his dominance

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<v Speaker 1>is he does it at the right times.

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<v Speaker 2>He does it in key moments. He does it on

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<v Speaker 2>third line.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a three man rush we're watching right here,

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<v Speaker 1>and he bats it down, just.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely works the left tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's one where we three man rush again gets to

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<v Speaker 1>Trevor Lawrence. This is one on one This is impact football.

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<v Speaker 1>This is getting Trevor Lawrence to think, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>there's ninety five coming off the edge from a five technique,

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<v Speaker 1>not even a seven technique, and I can't get away

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<v Speaker 1>from him.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of that's the coverage downfield and James. This speaks

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<v Speaker 1>to the bigger issue of Chris Jones' impact. It effects

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<v Speaker 1>all three levels of what the Chiefs are doing. They

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<v Speaker 1>could cloud the deep past and from behind drop their

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<v Speaker 1>linebackers to cover the intermediate stuff because they know Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Jones can be that disruptive. That's what we saw over

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<v Speaker 1>and over again in this game.

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<v Speaker 3>And you saw him rush from different spots. He was

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<v Speaker 3>out there on the edge. Remember when they toyed without

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of years ago, he dropped some weight and

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<v Speaker 3>they were like, may maybe he's an edge rusher. Now

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<v Speaker 3>he's doing it at his current dominance and his current

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<v Speaker 3>strength that he has in the middle of the defensive

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<v Speaker 3>line seat, but also can rush from the outside. They

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<v Speaker 3>always love moving him around finding advantages. But you mentioned it.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a drive ender, a game ender. You saw him

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<v Speaker 3>do that on fourth down. You see how he's able

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<v Speaker 3>to get their defense off the field to put the

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<v Speaker 3>best player football back on the field and what's happening

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<v Speaker 3>with this defense? And when I spend some time Darren

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<v Speaker 3>Camp there, I was talking to safety Justin Reid and

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<v Speaker 3>he was like, everybody now understands our system in the secondary.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, I was teaching everybody my role and their

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<v Speaker 3>role throughout all of the season last year. So many

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<v Speaker 3>new faces. Now they're to year two into the system,

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<v Speaker 3>and this group as a defense, which usually starts slow,

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<v Speaker 3>is playing really well early on and helping out this

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<v Speaker 3>offense that struggle a little bit. I have to put

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<v Speaker 3>this out there. As we talked about Patrick Mahomes. This

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<v Speaker 3>was a nice birthday present from the Chiefs. This is

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<v Speaker 3>this is from rap sheet right now while we're recording.

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<v Speaker 3>This a new deal for Patrick Mahomes. In the restructured deal,

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<v Speaker 3>he now receives two hundred and ten point six million

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<v Speaker 3>between twenty twenty three and twenty twenty six, the most

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<v Speaker 3>in NFL history over a four year span. We knew

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<v Speaker 3>this was coming, Steve, it is now here and who

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<v Speaker 3>the offense is sputtered a little bit, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I might hold on, hold on, okay, okay, Now everybody

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<v Speaker 1>who's watching and listening, this is how like TV and

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<v Speaker 1>all this works. Thirty seconds before we are coming on

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<v Speaker 1>to tape this show, James and I are talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this Mahomes deal is gonna get done pretty soon. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe all this hype where Patrick says he doesn't need

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<v Speaker 1>all this money. There's been conversations going on for months

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<v Speaker 1>about getting this restructure done, and now you are saying

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<v Speaker 1>he's getting two one hundred How does Marshawn Lynch put

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<v Speaker 1>it two hundred grips two hundred thousand.

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<v Speaker 3>Ten million, two hundred ten million, two d two hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and ten millions.

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<v Speaker 1>This this is cash dollars. I'm assuming this is guaranteed

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<v Speaker 1>bread that is get per in.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen to this. Steve Mahomes has now received over two

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and seventy three million in guarantees since the deal

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<v Speaker 3>was originally signed in twenty twenty, an NFL record that's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean this, and this is this is how

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<v Speaker 3>this team is operating, Steve. And it's interesting when we

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<v Speaker 3>talked about this whole Chris Jones situation and everything that

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<v Speaker 3>was going on and Chris Jones wanting this new deal,

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<v Speaker 3>We've talked about how this team has looked to build

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<v Speaker 3>moving forward, they move on from Tyreek Hill to make

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<v Speaker 3>other money. They look how they're moving everything forward with

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<v Speaker 3>Patrick Mahomes in line. How does that change everything else

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to find out this offseason.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and let's let's also not let people forget Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick Mahomes is getting all this money, this and that

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<v Speaker 1>in hard cash dollars. The amount of money he took

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<v Speaker 1>in the first three years of that ten year, four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty million dollars deal was minimal. Isn't a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say it was around sixty million. Now

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<v Speaker 1>minimal to NFL players, It's a lot for you and I.

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<v Speaker 1>But the fact that he was willing to sinimal for

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Wych, yeah right, damn right if you took that

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<v Speaker 1>little money, when you see some of this other upfront

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<v Speaker 1>cash these players got, this is this is a just

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<v Speaker 1>reward for him to get to two Super Bowls. Plus

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to allow, as crazy as the sounds, the

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs to create cap space along the way, so maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they can get Chris Jones done depending on how the

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<v Speaker 1>structure of it is. We're not going to get into

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<v Speaker 1>all of that good stuff right there, all right, JP

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get the final word before we move on

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<v Speaker 1>to the B block.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll say this, they were just waiting for Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Burrow's deal to get done before they really pushed this

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<v Speaker 3>things forward. Once they had those numbers, they were able

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<v Speaker 3>to readjust everything they wanted to do moving forward. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>as we move forward with this show, Steve Wera have

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff Schadea on to talk about a couple of these comebacks.

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<v Speaker 3>Who is gift rapped of victory and who had to

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<v Speaker 3>go out there and actually earn it More coming up

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<v Speaker 3>on the NFL Report. Welcome back to the NFL Report.

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<v Speaker 3>James Palmer, Steve White, John by Jeff Chadea.

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<v Speaker 5>Who.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure how close, Jeff, you lived to Patrick Mahomes,

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<v Speaker 3>but you might want to swing by and see what's

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<v Speaker 3>happening over there at Mahomes Manor. It's been redone and

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<v Speaker 3>now they have some more money for future upgrades, even

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<v Speaker 3>though it's all Brent spanking nouah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we're not in the same neighborhood. I can promise

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<v Speaker 6>you that.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, yeah up to see where he's You're adjacent.

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<v Speaker 2>You're adjacent, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Not the right right word to use.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm more like he's up here and I'm way down

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<v Speaker 6>here with the other peons. But yeah, you know, look,

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<v Speaker 6>I think one thing that we knew when he signed

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<v Speaker 6>his first big extension was that that was not going

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<v Speaker 6>to last for ten years. The numbers sounded great, half

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<v Speaker 6>a billion dollars, but at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 6>he took a team friendly deal with a discount, and

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<v Speaker 6>they weren't going to allow Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson

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<v Speaker 6>and Deshaun Watson and everybody else, you know, justin Herbert,

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<v Speaker 6>all these their quarterbacks to be paid more than the

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<v Speaker 6>best quarterback, the best player in the league. So this

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<v Speaker 6>was definitely not a surprise. The numbers aren't surprising. I

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<v Speaker 6>think James in the break we talked about just the

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<v Speaker 6>possibility and then looking at this again in four years

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<v Speaker 6>and redoing it. But they're always going to make sure

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<v Speaker 6>that he's at the top of the pay list, and

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<v Speaker 6>they're also going to try to make sure he has

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<v Speaker 6>his money. But they have the flexibility to keep making

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<v Speaker 6>moves to keep this team going.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, real quick, explain that because people who may

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily know how to finesse the cap say, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>he's getting you know, two hundred ten million dollars over

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<v Speaker 1>the next three years.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to be hamstrung.

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<v Speaker 1>But that money, when it's amortized over the length of

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<v Speaker 1>the deal, it actually creates cap space.

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<v Speaker 6>But it does, it does, and really, and they've been

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<v Speaker 6>doing this for the last couple of years where they

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<v Speaker 6>don't want to get into this world and I don't

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<v Speaker 6>want to go too deep into the weeds and how

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<v Speaker 6>NFL contract works, but they don't want to go into

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<v Speaker 6>this world where they're always trying to borrow money, get

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<v Speaker 6>players restructured, and try to get create salary cap space.

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<v Speaker 6>They feel like having him at a number that's manageable

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<v Speaker 6>for them, they're able to go to him and create

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<v Speaker 6>cast spaces when they want to. But they also know

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<v Speaker 6>he's getting paid as well, so this number will be

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<v Speaker 6>spread out over the course of the deal. I don't

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<v Speaker 6>know exactly all the details involved, but even though it's

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<v Speaker 6>a big number, it's really more about the years and

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<v Speaker 6>the way that the escalators are set up, the way

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<v Speaker 6>that they can actually spread it out, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>pay to pay it to him over the course of

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<v Speaker 6>that deal. So a lot of ways to work and

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<v Speaker 6>make it flexible, which.

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<v Speaker 3>Is big for a general manager Breadfeach. And with that said, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 3>look at what they have to do this offseason. You

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<v Speaker 3>have to pay the two guys that are right there

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<v Speaker 3>in front of Patrick Mahomes and centered Creed Humphrey and

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<v Speaker 3>their left guard, right right right guard.

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<v Speaker 2>The guard guard, his guard.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, those those are two of the best guys

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<v Speaker 3>that their positions right now in football, and they want

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<v Speaker 3>to hang on to the interior portion of that offensive line.

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<v Speaker 3>And both of those guys, Steve are up uh and

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<v Speaker 3>looking for for some cash of their own.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And you've got to pay some of those guys if

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<v Speaker 3>if you're gonna build all this around Patrick Mahomes, protecting

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<v Speaker 3>Patrick Mahomes is a big part of it as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So as you guys know, that's that's when you have

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<v Speaker 1>guys in the roster like, hmm, I'll be thirty two

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<v Speaker 1>the time of this next deal. I've got two years

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<v Speaker 1>left on my contract. Honey, let's go ahead and put

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<v Speaker 1>the house up for sale because we will not be

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<v Speaker 1>here next year. One guy who will be in placed

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time is Giants quarterback Daniel Jones, who,

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<v Speaker 1>like Patrick Mahomes, signed a big deal this offseason, not

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<v Speaker 1>for as much bread. But here's Brian Dayball talking about

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<v Speaker 1>his quarterback and his team rallying from three touchdowns down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yesterday to beat the Arizona Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 3>Belief.

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<v Speaker 5>But you can talk about it till you're blue in

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<v Speaker 5>the face, pat belief, it's got to happen. You have

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<v Speaker 5>to see tangible results too. So I think we have

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<v Speaker 5>some mentally tough players on our team and coaches.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not always easy to be mentally tough.

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<v Speaker 5>When you're you know whatever, it is, sixty to nothing

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<v Speaker 5>after a game and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, mentally tough. You better be because, like he just said,

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<v Speaker 1>like Brian Dayball has said, Jet, you have not scored

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<v Speaker 1>after being outscored sixty to nothing after a game and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. You're playing the Arizona Cardinals, who I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>aren't really that team.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta do something.

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<v Speaker 1>And JP and I were talking about this before the show,

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<v Speaker 1>the coaching that Brian Daball and that staff had to

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<v Speaker 1>do not only to motivate those guys, but to scheme

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<v Speaker 1>them back.

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<v Speaker 2>And to get them rolling again.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff, what about being able to come back from a

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<v Speaker 1>game like that when they really were reeling?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know, I do. The first three column every week,

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<v Speaker 6>and I thought about writing about this team. The Giants

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<v Speaker 6>are what to make of them for what you just said,

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<v Speaker 6>which is, you've got a team that got destroyed by Dallas.

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<v Speaker 6>You got a team that couldn't score a point against

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<v Speaker 6>the worst team in the league for the first half,

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<v Speaker 6>and then they have this great comeback. And then they

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<v Speaker 6>also by the way Sakuon Barkley gets hurt, you don't

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<v Speaker 6>know how his ankle is going to respond. I feel

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<v Speaker 6>as if the Giants are a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 6>mess right now, and I think you have to do

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<v Speaker 6>all this work to beat the Cardinals. You've got some problems,

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<v Speaker 6>and I'm a big fan of Brian Dable, and you

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<v Speaker 6>can say that they did a great job of coming

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<v Speaker 6>back in this game, but I also feel like they

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<v Speaker 6>got away with a lot of stuff last year, got

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<v Speaker 6>some things that break their weight. They're not doing it

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<v Speaker 6>to happen now, and I just feel this is more

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<v Speaker 6>of a team that's going to end up being around

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<v Speaker 6>six seven wins than a real playoff contender.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Jeff, you just said something that has been talked

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<v Speaker 1>about kind of behind the scenes for a while, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I mean, even speaking with folks of the Giants.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll tell you last year they won, but they did

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<v Speaker 1>it with smoking mirrors and some optical illusions because they

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<v Speaker 1>were not a fast team, right They did not have

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of speed, and they had to upgrade their

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<v Speaker 1>speed to be able to compete. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if they necessarily did that by adding Darren Waller and

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<v Speaker 1>this and that. They've got to be tougher and better

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<v Speaker 1>at some of the positions of the coaching job Brian

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<v Speaker 1>dave Ball did last year was worthy of him winning

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<v Speaker 1>the Coach of the Year honors. But Jay, you know again,

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<v Speaker 1>you look at this team. They play Thursday night against

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<v Speaker 1>the Niners. Saquon we don't know if he's gonna be

0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:07.640
<v Speaker 1>able to go because of that ankle.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm with Jeff.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you just don't know what to make of

0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:14.919
<v Speaker 1>this team right now because we still don't know what

0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:17.320
<v Speaker 1>their identity is and I don't know if anybody still

0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:18.879
<v Speaker 1>is really sold on Daniel Jones.

0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:22.240
<v Speaker 3>Well, part of that identity seed was gonna be you

0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:25.000
<v Speaker 3>bring in Darren Waller to be really probably your number

0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:27.880
<v Speaker 3>one target, and you don't know how his season's gonna

0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:30.879
<v Speaker 3>go with the hamstring right now, and how that's gonna

0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:33.480
<v Speaker 3>move forward, especially with some of the offensive line issues

0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:35.640
<v Speaker 3>that they have, and what we saw on the second half, Yes,

0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:37.760
<v Speaker 3>that was the most yards, by the way, Daniel Jones

0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:38.960
<v Speaker 3>has ever thrown four and a half. I think it

0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:40.920
<v Speaker 3>was two hundred and fifty nine, most he's ever done

0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:43.320
<v Speaker 3>in a half. But it was essentially him and Saquon.

0:21:44.119 --> 0:21:46.239
<v Speaker 3>I'd like that they got Jalen Hyatt kind of like

0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:49.359
<v Speaker 3>into the mix of sense, maybe you can find ways

0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:51.520
<v Speaker 3>to stretch the field a little bit, Jeff, because you're

0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:54.000
<v Speaker 3>gonna need to do that if that's your offense. Essentially

0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:58.639
<v Speaker 3>Daniel Jones and Saquon Barkley trying to somehow half run it,

0:21:58.720 --> 0:22:02.160
<v Speaker 3>half throw it as a because there are definitely some concerns,

0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:05.720
<v Speaker 3>but I do agree that once again, what I saw

0:22:05.920 --> 0:22:09.160
<v Speaker 3>was a locker room that kind of believes, and that

0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:12.679
<v Speaker 3>was a definite defining moment. When you get embarrassed in

0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:14.639
<v Speaker 3>Week one and then you're going, well, we have the

0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:17.920
<v Speaker 3>Cardinals and then you're getting embarrassed when you walk into halftime,

0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:20.000
<v Speaker 3>that might be a defining moment to where this season

0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:23.240
<v Speaker 3>somewhat salvage. But I think their margin for error, Jeff,

0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:26.800
<v Speaker 3>is really really thin. If they think they're a playoff.

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<v Speaker 6>Team, Yeah, certainly. And look the money that Daniel Jones

0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:33.040
<v Speaker 6>got paid this offseason. Sometimes when you pay a guy

0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:34.960
<v Speaker 6>that usually usually when you pay a guy that kind

0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:37.080
<v Speaker 6>of money, you want to turn him into somebody who

0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:40.080
<v Speaker 6>can justify that kind of payment. I agree that this

0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:43.680
<v Speaker 6>was a big moment for him and this team, But again,

0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:45.480
<v Speaker 6>if you have to be down twenty to nothing in

0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:48.960
<v Speaker 6>every game you play against bad teams to find yourself,

0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:51.159
<v Speaker 6>I just don't think that's a great place to be

0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:53.680
<v Speaker 6>and discover your identity. They did a great to have

0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:56.919
<v Speaker 6>a coaching this team up last year, but weapons wise,

0:22:57.440 --> 0:22:59.159
<v Speaker 6>they're still lacking in a lot of ways. And by

0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:01.960
<v Speaker 6>the way, no one really talks about this, but came on,

0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:03.280
<v Speaker 6>Tipada's gonna start doing something it.

0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah he doesn't. You're right, You're right, Yeah, you're right.

0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:08.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's got he's got to start making it.

0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:09.240
<v Speaker 2>And here's the other part.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're talking about the Giants and them rallying,

0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:18.359
<v Speaker 1>they're still probably, uh probably they are the worst team in.

0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:20.800
<v Speaker 2>The NFC East because the Washington.

0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Commanders folks are two and oh the team we thought

0:23:23.640 --> 0:23:27.560
<v Speaker 1>that was gonna be busterrific is two Sam right now,

0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:31.040
<v Speaker 1>and because they had a big time comeback against the

0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Denver Broncos. Jeff, We're gonna talk about the Broncos a

0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:36.040
<v Speaker 1>little bit later on, and some great stuff you wrote

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:39.399
<v Speaker 1>in your column at NFL dot com slash Jadia. But

0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:41.679
<v Speaker 1>what about the Commanders right now and the fact that

0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Sam Howell, who you wrote about, looks like a real dude.

0:23:45.960 --> 0:23:48.760
<v Speaker 6>The biggest surprise of the week for me. And I

0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:52.080
<v Speaker 6>was certainly a doubter and Sam Howell did not see

0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:55.480
<v Speaker 6>him being a prime time player. But you know, I

0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:57.199
<v Speaker 6>watched a little bit in the preseason game when they

0:23:57.200 --> 0:23:59.679
<v Speaker 6>played against Baltimore, and he showed some of that savvy

0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:02.040
<v Speaker 6>and that and kind of that cavalier style of play.

0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:04.199
<v Speaker 6>But to do it in week two, when you're on

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:06.760
<v Speaker 6>the road and you're down and you have to forget

0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 6>a lot of bass that's happened and still deliver big

0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:12.240
<v Speaker 6>plays for you. I was mesmerized by what he did,

0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:15.520
<v Speaker 6>and not just the throws, but leading the offense, keeping

0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:19.520
<v Speaker 6>things together. I feel like he and Eric Bienemy right now,

0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:22.960
<v Speaker 6>this tandem is it's almost like Dangiel Jones and Brian

0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:26.119
<v Speaker 6>Dabole last year. Like they are surprising people with the

0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:28.800
<v Speaker 6>way the enemy's coaching him and the way Howell's responding.

0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:31.960
<v Speaker 3>I love that you brought up eb I mean, I'm

0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:34.680
<v Speaker 3>not gonna say that the Chiefs are struggling offensively because

0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:36.800
<v Speaker 3>Eric Vienemy is not in the building, but I'll say

0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:40.199
<v Speaker 3>that the Washington Commanders as an offense that definitely have

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:42.480
<v Speaker 3>some weapons. I talked to Patrick Sardan in the locker

0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:44.479
<v Speaker 3>room last Wednesday before this game, and he was like,

0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:47.879
<v Speaker 3>Terry mccluurin is the most underrated receiver in the NFL.

0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:50.200
<v Speaker 3>That's in Pat's mind. He's like, I don't understand why

0:24:50.200 --> 0:24:52.720
<v Speaker 3>he doesn't get attention. He can do everything. But he

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:55.399
<v Speaker 3>also told me Johan Dotson is an up and coming

0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:58.360
<v Speaker 3>star in his eyes. That's one of the best cornerbacks,

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:01.560
<v Speaker 3>maybe arguably the best cornerback in Football's opinion of these

0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:04.440
<v Speaker 3>wide receiver duo, let's let's just remember this Steve before

0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:07.320
<v Speaker 3>we get to break they had, they were down eighteen

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 3>on the road, Sam Howse first ever WROT start in

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 3>the NFL, and then they really go on a thirty

0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:15.720
<v Speaker 3>two to three run in a stretch in the middle

0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:19.120
<v Speaker 3>of this game. That is just ridiculous.

0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, who the hell would have thought that Eric

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 1>b Enemy might be able to coach up a quarterback. Jeff,

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:27.399
<v Speaker 1>We're going to see you a little bit later in

0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:30.280
<v Speaker 1>the show as we get ready, as we move on

0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 1>to the next block, Chef A Baker, We've got Jordan

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Love and a new dog in Atlanta, the Beijon Freeze

0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:40.880
<v Speaker 1>here on the NFL.

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<v Speaker 7>Report does just can you just talk about how that

0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:52.320
<v Speaker 7>game was?

0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 3>It was so crazy.

0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:54.879
<v Speaker 7>You guys looked like you were, you know, kind of

0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 7>down for the count, and then you come back and

0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:59.600
<v Speaker 7>you just kind of take us through never done.

0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:02.879
<v Speaker 8>When you see the nflcons out there, will never be

0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:05.320
<v Speaker 8>down for the count. We're gonna fight until that clock,

0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:07.520
<v Speaker 8>kids zero. So you know that's what I'm proud of

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:10.399
<v Speaker 8>this team and everyone on this team for not giving up,

0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:12.080
<v Speaker 8>not you know, and just keep going out there and

0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 8>just fighting so that clock kids zero.

0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:20.479
<v Speaker 1>I thought Stockings quarterback Desmond Ritter is now James and

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I are joined by Sarah, And I gotta tell you, like,

0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:26.320
<v Speaker 1>if you're if you're a teammate of Desmond Ridder and

0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:28.920
<v Speaker 1>you see that, you're like, that's my quarterback, especially after

0:26:28.920 --> 0:26:30.840
<v Speaker 1>the way he just played. I mean, they made some

0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:33.880
<v Speaker 1>fourth down conversions. He made some really gritty like run

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:36.680
<v Speaker 1>type place and big throws to Mac Collins and Drake

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:39.639
<v Speaker 1>London down there as they come back from twelve down,

0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Sarah to beat the Packers and to move to two

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:46.480
<v Speaker 1>and zero atop the NFC South. And you were telling

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:49.480
<v Speaker 1>me earlier that you know, you had a conversation with

0:26:49.520 --> 0:26:53.520
<v Speaker 1>the team owner just by a chance, by the way, about.

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:56.359
<v Speaker 2>The optimism first circles. Does Sarah run in like just

0:26:56.440 --> 0:26:58.200
<v Speaker 2>hunting this Sarah gets down?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, guys, I just you know, I didn't make it

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:03.159
<v Speaker 9>to the owners meetings, the fancy owners meetings that you

0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:05.040
<v Speaker 9>get to go to. So I was just playing around. No,

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:07.400
<v Speaker 9>I was actually in Atlanta. I was at Mercedes Benz

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:11.200
<v Speaker 9>Stadium on Saturday for a different kind of football, soccer

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:14.359
<v Speaker 9>related because Arthur Blank, as you know, owns Atlanta United

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:16.680
<v Speaker 9>as well, and so he has just given the US

0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:19.639
<v Speaker 9>Soccer Federation a fifty million dollar check. They're going to

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 9>break ground and have US Soccer's training facility in Atlanta.

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 9>I also cover soccer. Again, everything, as you know in

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 9>life is a very very small world. So I was

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:30.439
<v Speaker 9>up there. I was at their stadium on Saturday, with

0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:33.680
<v Speaker 9>Arthur Blank and obviously the season is very young, there's

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:36.280
<v Speaker 9>a lot of optimism. And I was actually standing out

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 9>on the field, which was the soccer pitch at that time,

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:40.440
<v Speaker 9>because they were about to play a game after this.

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 3>Press conference, no message, no.

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:45.919
<v Speaker 9>There were people yelling at me, and I was like,

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 9>you guys, don't think I wanted Messi to be here.

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 9>I was doing this. I was doing an unrelated press

0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:52.359
<v Speaker 9>conference announcement, and then Messi was supposed to be playing

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 9>thirty minutes later. So I was staying I was all

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:57.200
<v Speaker 9>in on this thing, and like fans are yelling at me,

0:27:57.240 --> 0:27:59.120
<v Speaker 9>I'm like, yo, I want him out on the field

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 9>just as much as you do. I actually don't know

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:03.399
<v Speaker 9>if Arthur Blink wanted him on the field because it

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 9>was better for his Atlanta United anyway. But they're so

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:11.400
<v Speaker 9>excited and this is it. It was crazy because we're

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 9>standing out on this field and I was talking to

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:14.879
<v Speaker 9>a team in play and I'm like, it's insane to

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 9>think that since this stadium was built, there's been a

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:22.159
<v Speaker 9>Super Bowl there and there has not been a The

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:25.960
<v Speaker 9>Falcons have not hosted a playoff game in that stadium,

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 9>which feels like it's been around for a while now,

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:30.359
<v Speaker 9>so to think that you erected this beautiful stadium at

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 9>host Super Bowls, Peach Bowls, all these exciting games, like

0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:36.639
<v Speaker 9>they are clamoring for a playoff game to be in

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:39.400
<v Speaker 9>Atlanta in that stadium, and it hasn't happened yet. And

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 9>you know, I saw the Falcons last year too, and

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 9>they were knocking on the door, as you could say

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 9>about every single team in that division, right because they

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 9>were all separated by one game with the box and

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 9>then everyone else's tied, so it could have gone either way.

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 9>But look, they've shored up that defense. They need Desmond

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 9>Rudder to not make mistakes. He needs to make the

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 9>plays when he needs to make them, and we saw

0:28:56.960 --> 0:29:00.120
<v Speaker 9>him do that in a really gritty, gritty win. I

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 9>think to the sense about Arthur Smith is, you know,

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:07.120
<v Speaker 9>this hasn't been like the most when you look at

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 9>wins and losses. Hasn't been the best start right of

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 9>anyone's coaching career when you come in and like you

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 9>want to go right away, right to the postseason, and

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:15.440
<v Speaker 9>that hasn't happened for him. But anyone you talked about

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 9>Arthur Smith, there's just so much respect for him around

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:19.600
<v Speaker 9>the league and how smart he is, and there's always

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 9>just been this sense like they are going to get

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 9>it on track, and it sort of felt like they

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 9>were really putting the pieces in place this offseason and

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 9>you're starting to see this. I mean, look, he's doubled

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 9>down on Desmond rd Or this offseason when they could

0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 9>have looked elsewhere, and he was like, Nope, this is

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 9>our guy. And that was the first time I saw

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 9>his comment, Steve in that press conference and when I

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 9>was sitting here when he was saying that and cut

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:41.120
<v Speaker 9>off their porterns like nope, never doubt. I'm like, yeah,

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 9>like I'm in. I get it, like I'm in. So

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 9>I think this is a Falcon team that's certainly heading

0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 9>in the right direction. I'm not surprised by that. To

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 9>enough start.

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 3>Listen, not everybody's sporting a mustache, but this team has

0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 3>Arthur Smith's identity all over it, Steve like, they are

0:29:56.520 --> 0:29:59.240
<v Speaker 3>physical in every way that they play on both sides

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 3>of the football. I found it interesting talking to people

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 3>in that building this morning after their win. One of

0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 3>the most interesting things that said that was said to

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 3>me was we really love Drake London and Mac Collins

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 3>as a one to two. You're like, Matt came in

0:30:13.240 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 3>as an afterthought. He leads this team in receiving right now,

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 3>and they really like those as a one two wide

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 3>receiver combo. Now you're looking at it and going like, well,

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 3>that's kind of interesting. But they like that matchup, Steve,

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 3>because of all the other pieces they have as well. Right,

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 3>they are wowed by Bjeon Robinson and what they can

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 3>do with him. He's their second leading receiver honestly, and

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 3>where they can put him all over the field. I

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:36.640
<v Speaker 3>was told we're just scratching the surface about what we

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 3>can do with Bijeon, and and you're seeing this is

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 3>right now. I know we're two weeks in. This is

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:45.120
<v Speaker 3>probably offensive Rerookie of the Year materials so far, this

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 3>is what we're looking at. I mean, I think Andrews

0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:49.080
<v Speaker 3>and Siliano hosting that show with you, Steve said his

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 3>moves have moves, which is essentially the way Bijeon plays,

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 3>but he also plays physical. I think that's the other

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 3>aspect of it. I'm curious how Kyle Pitts fits into

0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 3>this coming off with the knee, does he become another

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:02.840
<v Speaker 3>added element. We'll see if that happens. But what I

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 3>like is they have enough talent Steve where they do

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 3>think Desmond Ritter is making mistakes, but they feel like

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 3>he's making rookie mistakes because they do consider him still

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 3>a rookie. They have enough talent around him right now

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 3>in a physical enough defense to where if he doesn't

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 3>make rookie mistakes that cost you games, they're still in

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:21.240
<v Speaker 3>a very good spot as he grows.

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and look, I spoke to Terry font No years

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 1>ago and they were building this and twice passed and

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 1>two drafts passed on quarterbacks, and he said, look, we

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 1>want to build our rosters.

0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 2>And when we get to the point where we find

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 2>a quarterback, he has got a nice landing spot. He'll

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 2>have time to develop. He's got land Ron who can

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 2>carry this seat.

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 1>So they've got those types of players. You know who

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 1>else is two and oh in this division? Though, the

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 1>team that nobody thought was gonna be two and oh, Sarah,

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 1>those are the Bay Buccaneers who just put a absolute

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 1>waxing on the Bears.

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 2>You were there, You.

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Saw that game at Baker Mayfield. Two and oh for

0:31:57.520 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 1>the first time in his career. What is transition from

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Brady to Mayfield not only done for Baker, but kind

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:05.840
<v Speaker 1>of the rest of the guys.

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 2>You're saying, yeah, we can win without Tommy.

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:15.760
<v Speaker 9>I think what's interesting is that it's not that Tom

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 9>is his own entity, right, Tom is his own universe

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.440
<v Speaker 9>in the football world and even bigger than the football world.

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 9>And as soon as Tom was gone, these expectations change.

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 9>And I don't necessarily think that it has to be

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:31.760
<v Speaker 9>in a bad way, because when I say the expectations

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 9>of change, like, no one expects them to win. Everyone's

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:35.520
<v Speaker 9>saying that they're going to fish last in the division.

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:38.440
<v Speaker 9>And while you would go, wow, is that a good thing,

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 9>it just took pressure off these guys. They have been

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:46.040
<v Speaker 9>under the spotlight every single game since the day that

0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 9>Tom Brady announced he was coming to Tampa Bay. And

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 9>then you win a Super Bowl. That doesn't lower the expectations.

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 9>And so I just think that that starts to wear

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:57.239
<v Speaker 9>on you in a different way. And look, expectations are

0:32:57.240 --> 0:32:59.800
<v Speaker 9>a privilege. You hear pressures of privilege, all those things. Yeah,

0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:02.520
<v Speaker 9>that's great and all, but this is a team that's like, Okay,

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 9>nobody's looking at us, nobody cares about us. Like that's fine,

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 9>We're just gonna go out have a good time. And

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 9>I do think it's sort of changed this mentality of

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 9>the team where they're just kind of out there having

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 9>a good time. I know, Steve, you and I talked

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 9>about it when I was in Minnesota last week and

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 9>I was in the room right next to where the

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 9>box their locker room. I've never heard them screaming and

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:25.080
<v Speaker 9>hollering after a game the way they did when they

0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 9>beat Minnesota take out the Super Bowl. That's a different thing.

0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 9>But like, this is a team that's just operating in

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:33.640
<v Speaker 9>a different manner because one people discounted them. But I

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 9>think that they're enjoying that. I think they're enjoying being

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 9>out of the spotlight. Every little thing that this team

0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:40.480
<v Speaker 9>has done in the last three years has been picked

0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:43.479
<v Speaker 9>apart and scrutinized in every single way imaginable. And if

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 9>you don't have that on you, it's almost like it's

0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 9>a relief. And like, let's be honest, Chicago came to

0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 9>town and after they're terrible Week one, the pressure's on Chicago.

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 9>I mean everyone's looking at like the sky is falling

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 9>in Chicago, whereas in Tampa they're like, hey, great Week

0:33:57.120 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 9>one win.

0:33:57.520 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 3>We surprised.

0:33:58.040 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 9>We went to Minnesota and like no one thought we'd

0:33:59.840 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 9>come win, And now we're down here and no one

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 9>still expects us to win, and they win again, and

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 9>they've done it in a myriad of ways. The defense

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:09.000
<v Speaker 9>has been really good, really lights out, and Baker Mayfield

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 9>one of them. I know you guys are on a

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:12.359
<v Speaker 9>stat show, but tell me if this surprises you, because

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 9>it surprises me. Baker Mayfield is leading the NFL right

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 9>now in third down completion percentage number one, and like

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:22.360
<v Speaker 9>that was something they struggled out last year. Do you

0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:23.840
<v Speaker 9>have Is that not surprising to you?

0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 3>I surprised.

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:29.800
<v Speaker 9>It's unbelievable he's been He's he's converted eighty seven percent

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 9>of the time on third down. I mean that's like insane.

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:33.719
<v Speaker 9>And this is a new offense to him, a new team,

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:36.640
<v Speaker 9>and so I think they're just really enjoying themselves here

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 9>in Tampa right now.

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:41.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's I think Sarah that's been the biggest surprise

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:42.959
<v Speaker 3>I think for all of us. Everybody's seeing.

0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:43.279
<v Speaker 9>Uh.

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:45.520
<v Speaker 3>I think Baker. Let me do the math here. My

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:46.799
<v Speaker 3>math's not as good as yours, but I think he's

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:50.840
<v Speaker 3>played for fourteen teams in the last twelve months, and

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:52.840
<v Speaker 3>he goes out there and he plays the way that

0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:55.919
<v Speaker 3>he's gone out and played, specifically on third downs protecting

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:58.840
<v Speaker 3>the football, which I think, I will say this Steve,

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:01.840
<v Speaker 3>everybody's kind of waiting for that Baker stretch to happen,

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:04.319
<v Speaker 3>where you go, what was that throw? Right? But it

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 3>hasn't happened yet. It hasn't happened yet. And I do

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:09.719
<v Speaker 3>think that there's something between him and Mike Evans specifically

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 3>when plays breakdown, and I think Mike is, you know,

0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 3>definitely that type of player, and Sarah you know him

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:16.839
<v Speaker 3>well in terms of being able to make plays when

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:18.759
<v Speaker 3>things are off script, with the size that he has,

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 3>the speed that he has. We'll still see ingim going

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:22.160
<v Speaker 3>out there just being one of the best receivers in

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:24.360
<v Speaker 3>all of football. But Baker is the one who's making

0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 3>this go. In terms of all of us being surprised

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:30.400
<v Speaker 3>because this is a talented roster, Vidavea and Twine Winfield Junior,

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean the linebackers. I mean they have Tristan Wurf's

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:35.359
<v Speaker 3>on the offensive line. I mean they have a lot

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:38.520
<v Speaker 3>of talent and one of those guys that I didn't mention, right,

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:40.879
<v Speaker 3>there is a pass rusher in Shaq Barrett's there. Yeah,

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:43.239
<v Speaker 3>and hey he goes out, and he goes out and

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:46.880
<v Speaker 3>makes an unbelievable play to seal that game. But what

0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:51.560
<v Speaker 3>happened in the end zone just on another level compared

0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:52.960
<v Speaker 3>to the play that he made.

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:56.680
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, here's the thing. And for people that aren't aware,

0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:58.880
<v Speaker 9>and I think most people are shocked. First of all,

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 9>it's coming back from a tour Achilles that happened I

0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 9>think in week eight of last season, so he's just

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:05.400
<v Speaker 9>trying to make his way back right. And then horrific,

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 9>horrific tragedy this off season, his little two year old daughter,

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:13.399
<v Speaker 9>Ariah drowns in the family pool. So what he has

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:16.319
<v Speaker 9>had to endure over the last several months of his

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:19.839
<v Speaker 9>life are it's just incomprehensible. And he talked about it

0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:23.280
<v Speaker 9>yesterday that before the first game of the season in Minnesota,

0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 9>that he just sat in his locker room and started

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:27.399
<v Speaker 9>crying because it hits him in different moments. And yet

0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 9>he stepped to the podium yesterday and he was so joyful,

0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:33.000
<v Speaker 9>and I had this like I actually had this anxiety

0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 9>of like, oh my god. So he just has this

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 9>pick six end of the game seals the deal. But

0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:38.360
<v Speaker 9>he's going to get asked about his daughter and what

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:40.279
<v Speaker 9>it means and like, this poor guy, because he's now

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 9>he's going to get up there, like how is he

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:44.200
<v Speaker 9>going to handle it? And he had the biggest smile

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 9>on his face. He had this huge, blinged out necklace

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:48.439
<v Speaker 9>that was a heart and it was his little daughter

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:51.640
<v Speaker 9>on it, and he was so joyful though, and he

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 9>was like, I was so happy that happened because I

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:56.880
<v Speaker 9>blew her a kiss and like it brought the spotlight

0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 9>back to my daughter. And which was like a very

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 9>way of thinking about it, because I mean this he's

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 9>he's going through it and he's going to be going

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:06.759
<v Speaker 9>through this for a long time. And Todd Bowles was

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 9>asked about, you know, how do you see Shack being

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:12.440
<v Speaker 9>able to maneuver what he've been able to maneuver through

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 9>not you know, he has an injury that he's still

0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 9>working his way back from. And he said it's unbelievable.

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:20.239
<v Speaker 9>I mean it's it's unbelievable what he has been going

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:22.479
<v Speaker 9>through on and off the field. And so to have

0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:25.239
<v Speaker 9>that finish, the people that know that story behind that,

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:28.440
<v Speaker 9>to have the finish that he had yesterday. It was

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:32.440
<v Speaker 9>just crazy, and it's been a very an amazing start

0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:33.840
<v Speaker 9>for a Buccaneers team that there were a lot of

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:35.279
<v Speaker 9>question marks about. And then of course, you know the

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 9>Eagles are coming to town for Monday night football. Soever

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:39.440
<v Speaker 9>and goes, okay, here's here's the test now, so we'll

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 9>see what happens on Monday night.

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:46.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, And Sarah, just real quick, yeah, yeah, just

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:49.719
<v Speaker 1>just we're all parents here, and so the respect for

0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Shaq Barrett to continue to wear a smile on his

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:55.839
<v Speaker 1>face going through what he's going through just immeasurable.

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, Sah.

0:37:58.000 --> 0:37:59.280
<v Speaker 9>Community is just devastated.

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 3>One of the best dudes in the league, man, one

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:03.360
<v Speaker 3>of the best people in the league covered him for

0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 3>a long time. Unbelievable. Yeah, all right, Sarah, appreciate it.

0:38:06.120 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna move back onto the football field a little bit.

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:11.920
<v Speaker 3>A couple of legendary coaches, Steve in terms of Sean Payton,

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:15.919
<v Speaker 3>Bill Belichick, both Owen two, how about Brandon Staley Owen two,

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 3>whose seed is the hottest? Well, Jeff tod is gonna

0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 3>come back and tell us.

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 10>Russell in the pocket now bounces around set it throws

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:34.160
<v Speaker 10>the ball up in the air, the ball.

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:47.839
<v Speaker 3>Deflected Johnson, good Cook Logan, Well, I mean the hell

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:50.760
<v Speaker 3>Mary did not get to the end zone. Steve Jeffett

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:52.880
<v Speaker 3>did not reach the goal line, but somehow it was

0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:56.480
<v Speaker 3>caught in the end zone Brandon Johnson. That was the

0:38:56.560 --> 0:38:59.360
<v Speaker 3>hell Mary from Russell Wilson to Brand Johnson, but no

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:02.800
<v Speaker 3>two point conversion. Some debate about a penalty in the

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:05.760
<v Speaker 3>end zone, there wasn't called, and the Broncos fall shorts

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:08.960
<v Speaker 3>and lose thirty five thirty three. But it wasn't that

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:11.680
<v Speaker 3>hell Mary, even though we saw Russell Wilson play a

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 3>little bit better. Sean Payton still having some issues with

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 3>the operation. Sound familiar, Here's Peyton.

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:23.759
<v Speaker 10>There's a number of drives you know where we're late

0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:26.360
<v Speaker 10>with personnel getting out of the huddle. We took a while.

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:30.120
<v Speaker 10>I mean, that's got to change. We had to burn

0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:32.319
<v Speaker 10>timeouts in the first half and I'm not used to doing.

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 10>We got to be better, and I've got to be better.

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:38.120
<v Speaker 10>Russ's got to be sharper with get getting the play

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:39.480
<v Speaker 10>out and then we got to look at how much

0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:42.520
<v Speaker 10>we have in But you know, if we need to

0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:43.760
<v Speaker 10>riskband it, we will.

0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Well you know, one too long ago when Sean Payton

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:53.319
<v Speaker 1>was talking about Nathaniel Hackett and the bad operation because

0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:56.280
<v Speaker 1>he was a bad head coach Jeff. Now he's getting

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:59.279
<v Speaker 1>it kind of a reality check, talking about going to

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:02.680
<v Speaker 1>wrist bands get personnel out today. On Monday, he said

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:04.839
<v Speaker 1>he had to shorten the verbiage now of the play

0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:07.120
<v Speaker 1>calls so they can get to the line of scrimmage.

0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Quicker.

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:10.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean they're they're searching for answers already, my man.

0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, building a glass house over there is what Sean

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:16.960
<v Speaker 6>Payton's doing. It's easy to throw stones when you're watching

0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:18.959
<v Speaker 6>from a farm, but once you're actually in there dealing

0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:21.840
<v Speaker 6>with the quarterback, things get a little bit different. I

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:24.600
<v Speaker 6>thought it was ironic that he was talking about these

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:27.760
<v Speaker 6>kinds of challenges because I thought Russell Wilson played fairly,

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 6>played fairly well, and Russell Wilson even said they played

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 6>their best half of offensive football this year in that game.

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:36.600
<v Speaker 6>First of all I see with this team right now

0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:40.520
<v Speaker 6>is that all the talk about culture and teaching people

0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 6>how to win and getting the right people in the room,

0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:44.440
<v Speaker 6>it just it takes a while to make this kind

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:47.759
<v Speaker 6>of stuff work. And I will say this. The Broncos

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:50.160
<v Speaker 6>are probably a better team right now with Sean Payne

0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:52.560
<v Speaker 6>coaching them, but the numbers game is not working in

0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 6>their favor because when you lose two games against teams

0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:58.800
<v Speaker 6>you should beat at home, and you have the Dolphins

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:00.960
<v Speaker 6>coming up next, a couple weeks down the road, you

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 6>get the Chiefs and the Bills and the Packers and

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 6>the Chiefs again, it's starting to look like this team

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:09.239
<v Speaker 6>is going to end up being two and six, you know,

0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:12.480
<v Speaker 6>two and five as they near the midpoint of the season,

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:14.040
<v Speaker 6>and that's just not going to get it done in

0:41:14.080 --> 0:41:17.479
<v Speaker 6>a crowded AFC. So I understand the concerns and Sean

0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:19.279
<v Speaker 6>Payton desire and make Russell Wilson as good of a

0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:22.200
<v Speaker 6>quarterback as he possibly can be. But you're up twenty

0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:24.279
<v Speaker 6>one three at home. You got to win that game.

0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Hold up, John, if they're two and five. If they're

0:41:26.680 --> 0:41:28.160
<v Speaker 2>two and five, what do they do a quarterback?

0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:29.719
<v Speaker 1>Because you know people are going to be screaming for

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Jared Sidham or whoever.

0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:35.440
<v Speaker 6>Oh man, it's I think part of it depends on

0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:38.880
<v Speaker 6>how it looks, because you can be you can play well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this the second half that squandered this one.

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<v Speaker 6>Away, thank you, thank you. No one wants to talk

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:47.719
<v Speaker 6>about that part of it. But defensively, they're not the

0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:50.080
<v Speaker 6>same team they were a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I want to chime in a little bit

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:56.600
<v Speaker 3>before we move on about this whole situation that is

0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:59.760
<v Speaker 3>being talked about here in Denver at nauseum on Monday,

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:02.600
<v Speaker 3>the play calling and about it taking too long in

0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:06.680
<v Speaker 3>the operation first point. I was told repeatedly after Sean

0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:09.360
<v Speaker 3>Payton's initial comments to jare Belle and USA today this

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:13.120
<v Speaker 3>offseason texts from multiple members of that coaching staff from

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:14.719
<v Speaker 3>a year ago that just kind of all had the

0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:18.799
<v Speaker 3>same sentiment, wait till Sewan starts working with Russ. We

0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:22.839
<v Speaker 3>had these issues constantly last year. I was told repeatedly

0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:26.200
<v Speaker 3>that there are issues about plays getting in too slow,

0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:29.840
<v Speaker 3>and that blame kept going on Nathaniel Hackett and the

0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:32.800
<v Speaker 3>offensive coaching staff. And now we're seeing the same issues

0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:35.360
<v Speaker 3>with a new coaching staff coming in. And I remember

0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 3>at the beginning, maybe third of training camp, I asked

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 3>Sean Payton about that communication between both sides, Steve, and

0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:45.440
<v Speaker 3>he said to me, ninety percent of it is on

0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:48.680
<v Speaker 3>the play caller when things go wrong, it's usually the

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 3>play caller's fault. That is not where he's coming from.

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:53.840
<v Speaker 3>Right now, it looks like it is the same quarterback

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:56.520
<v Speaker 3>with two different play callers, that this is an issue

0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:58.520
<v Speaker 3>with the verbiage. Now, the interesting part with the wristband

0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:01.800
<v Speaker 3>was Russ was wearing a spand on Sunday, So I

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:04.640
<v Speaker 3>guess they're gonna change some aspects of the wristband, change

0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:07.279
<v Speaker 3>some of the verbiage. This has been an issue with

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:10.920
<v Speaker 3>Russell Wilson his entire career. This was a big issue

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:14.080
<v Speaker 3>in Seattle. They just work ways to work around it.

0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:17.480
<v Speaker 3>Michael Robinson has talked on our air at nauseum about

0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:20.200
<v Speaker 3>the help that he gave in the huddle to Russell

0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:23.239
<v Speaker 3>Wilson at times. So it's finding ways around it, which

0:43:23.280 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 3>my last point. I know I'm going home with this,

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:28.640
<v Speaker 3>but I'm fascinated by it. During training camp, you always

0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:31.320
<v Speaker 3>see right the play caller with the with the walkie

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:33.680
<v Speaker 3>talkie and they're talking to the guy. They're talking to

0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:37.040
<v Speaker 3>the quarterback. That did not happen during training camp here

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:40.800
<v Speaker 3>in Denver, Sean Payton was in the huddle giving the plays.

0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:44.040
<v Speaker 3>What I'm curious about was are we not practicing this

0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:46.480
<v Speaker 3>or is there an aspect of this to where this

0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:49.600
<v Speaker 3>is slowing down our operation in training camp. So we

0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:51.400
<v Speaker 3>just have to make sure I get the play in

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:53.720
<v Speaker 3>so the rest of the other ten guys aren't affected.

0:43:53.800 --> 0:43:55.759
<v Speaker 3>Jeff like, we have to get work on this. We

0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:58.120
<v Speaker 3>can't let this slow us down to camp. I'm curious

0:43:58.160 --> 0:43:59.839
<v Speaker 3>to try to get to the bottom of this because

0:43:59.840 --> 0:44:01.400
<v Speaker 3>apparently it is an issue in Denver.

0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:07.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah. I have a hard time understanding how a quarterback

0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:10.840
<v Speaker 6>who's played as long as Russell Wilson's played can't understand

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:12.960
<v Speaker 6>verbiage or can't get play calls in. It seems like

0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:16.840
<v Speaker 6>it should be second nature, right, It's it's a miss draggery.

0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:19.719
<v Speaker 6>It's it's hard to understand it, and it's happened so

0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:21.960
<v Speaker 6>many times now that it's easy to say, oh, it's

0:44:21.960 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 6>the play caller, but it's got to be the quarterback.

0:44:24.560 --> 0:44:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, look, look and the guy. Let's let's not forget

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:31.040
<v Speaker 1>about this. He has had tremendous success in his career,

0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:32.960
<v Speaker 1>but for things.

0:44:32.800 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 3>That kind of wine always told me, Steve, not everybody's perfect.

0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:38.359
<v Speaker 3>Somebody everybody has everybody has a flaw in their game.

0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:40.800
<v Speaker 3>This is something russell'sn't been great.

0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Hey James, what is it about being in Denver and

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:46.200
<v Speaker 1>bringing up how mama has raised you. I'm just talking

0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:49.160
<v Speaker 1>about Colorado, I should say, not Denver. That's a part

0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:51.239
<v Speaker 1>of the whole Colorado State Colorado thing, all.

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Right, Hey, Jeff. Another coach who who Sean Payton supposedly was.

0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Going to replace before he got to Denver's Brandon Staley

0:44:59.120 --> 0:44:59.800
<v Speaker 1>with the Chargers.

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:01.440
<v Speaker 2>As we know, this team is loaded.

0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:04.040
<v Speaker 1>They spend all their money on defense, I mean tons

0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:05.920
<v Speaker 1>of it on defense, other than on their quarterback.

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:09.239
<v Speaker 2>They're owing to. They've lost games the same ways. It's

0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:13.160
<v Speaker 2>tough teams. Now well to Miami and then well Washington.

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 1>They're doing all right, but they just keep you know,

0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:18.680
<v Speaker 1>they just keep getting I'm sorry the charge loss of

0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Tennessee beat on the deep ball. Defensively, they're not affecting

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:24.920
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback the way they're paying people to do that.

0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:28.359
<v Speaker 1>And Brandon Staley is a defensive coach. We know last

0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 1>year there are roamings about his job security. The way

0:45:31.080 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 1>this team has started. Are you concerned about this?

0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:37.080
<v Speaker 9>Yes?

0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:39.759
<v Speaker 6>No, without without a doubt. You're talking about again, a

0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:44.600
<v Speaker 6>team that was supposed to be pushing the Chiefs every

0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:46.880
<v Speaker 6>year we hear this right. The Chiefs owned the AFC

0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:49.520
<v Speaker 6>West for the last seven years, But the Chargers are

0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:52.160
<v Speaker 6>always that team that's snipping at their heels and getting

0:45:52.200 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 6>close and on the version of a huge breakthrough. And

0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:59.600
<v Speaker 6>I just don't get it. Brandon Staley is a I

0:45:59.719 --> 0:46:02.080
<v Speaker 6>like him as a coach, I like him as a person,

0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:05.319
<v Speaker 6>but he's supposed to be a defensive guy, and the

0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:07.960
<v Speaker 6>defense has never been good since he's been there. There

0:46:08.000 --> 0:46:10.719
<v Speaker 6>was a great stat that I read earlier today that

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:14.080
<v Speaker 6>said the Chargers as a team have given up more

0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:17.520
<v Speaker 6>pass completions of over thirty yards than any team in

0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:20.879
<v Speaker 6>the league since Stateley became the head coach. And you're

0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:23.359
<v Speaker 6>talking about a secondary that has Derwin James, that has

0:46:23.440 --> 0:46:26.399
<v Speaker 6>j C. Jackson, that passed for us is Khalil Mack

0:46:26.440 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 6>and you know.

0:46:27.000 --> 0:46:29.000
<v Speaker 3>Joey Bosa, all these guys, and it just never seems

0:46:29.000 --> 0:46:29.359
<v Speaker 3>to work.

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:34.880
<v Speaker 6>Again, oh to two with against teams that they're good

0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:37.960
<v Speaker 6>enough to beat. You can't do that in a crowded AFC,

0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:40.160
<v Speaker 6>and certainly when you're chasing the Chiefs.

0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:44.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the one that blows me away. And the

0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:46.080
<v Speaker 3>other part is if you look at the numbers, the

0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:49.040
<v Speaker 3>way Ryan Tannehill has closed out games with the Tennessee

0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:52.279
<v Speaker 3>Titans that are in overtime. He's five and one. If

0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:55.799
<v Speaker 3>you look at what's happened with Justin Herbert in these

0:46:55.880 --> 0:46:58.319
<v Speaker 3>late games, the stats are not the same. A lot

0:46:58.360 --> 0:47:01.720
<v Speaker 3>of times, guys, that's coaching right, what happens down the stretch.

0:47:01.880 --> 0:47:04.200
<v Speaker 3>And a lot of times also we think one guy's

0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:07.160
<v Speaker 3>gonna win Rookie of the Year, Steve. Maybe another guy,

0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:11.040
<v Speaker 3>a sleeper already through two weeks, could be the rookie

0:47:11.200 --> 0:47:13.040
<v Speaker 3>of the year. We'll tell you who Steve has his

0:47:13.120 --> 0:47:15.520
<v Speaker 3>eye on. Coming up next on the NFL Report.

0:47:27.280 --> 0:47:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Are back with a final block here at the NFL

0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Report And JPI was at the Rams Niners game yesterday.

0:47:32.880 --> 0:47:34.880
<v Speaker 2>A fantastic game, Trucky.

0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:36.839
<v Speaker 1>The Rams are a lot better than we give them

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:40.840
<v Speaker 1>credit for their very physical upfront. Matthew Stafford looks absolutely reborn.

0:47:40.880 --> 0:47:43.400
<v Speaker 2>You saw that in joint practices with the Broncos.

0:47:44.120 --> 0:47:48.640
<v Speaker 1>But rookie wide receiver Puka Nakua, a fifth round draft pick,

0:47:49.000 --> 0:47:51.520
<v Speaker 1>the latest mid to late round draft pick the Rams

0:47:51.560 --> 0:47:54.600
<v Speaker 1>had that have been developed by wide receiver coach Eric Yarber,

0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:57.239
<v Speaker 1>who is the secret sauce to this offense no one

0:47:57.320 --> 0:47:57.920
<v Speaker 1>talks about.

0:47:58.320 --> 0:47:58.920
<v Speaker 2>He went for.

0:47:59.080 --> 0:48:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Fifteen catches against the Niners. He's got twenty five over

0:48:02.960 --> 0:48:06.120
<v Speaker 1>the first two games, the most by a rookie. First off,

0:48:06.120 --> 0:48:08.080
<v Speaker 1>the fifteen catches the most by a rookie in the game.

0:48:08.280 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Twenty five most by a rookie over two games. But

0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:13.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm speaking of Niners players. After the game,

0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:16.479
<v Speaker 1>Talaa Hufona was like, oh, I know his brother.

0:48:16.520 --> 0:48:18.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm tight with his brother. But I always knew

0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Pookap was a dog.

0:48:20.080 --> 0:48:22.480
<v Speaker 1>And they said in the first half he was their

0:48:22.560 --> 0:48:24.279
<v Speaker 1>zone buster, right, and they saw it on film against

0:48:24.280 --> 0:48:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Seattle the week before that. He saw the seams in

0:48:27.160 --> 0:48:29.200
<v Speaker 1>their zones and was killing them. So in the second

0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:31.279
<v Speaker 1>half they went up, they pressed him a little bit more,

0:48:31.320 --> 0:48:32.759
<v Speaker 1>they put a little more traffic.

0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:33.120
<v Speaker 2>In front of him.

0:48:33.480 --> 0:48:37.160
<v Speaker 1>He had eight catches in the second half after having seven.

0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:40.000
<v Speaker 2>In the first, so he was better. He's a real dude.

0:48:40.200 --> 0:48:42.000
<v Speaker 1>And here's the thing, when Cooper Cup comes back, because

0:48:42.040 --> 0:48:43.759
<v Speaker 1>right now he's playing Cooper Cup's role, I mean lining

0:48:43.800 --> 0:48:46.440
<v Speaker 1>up at flanker, cracking guys like Nick Boges at the

0:48:46.440 --> 0:48:47.160
<v Speaker 1>line of scrimmage.

0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:50.200
<v Speaker 2>When Cup comes back, he may change roles a little bit,

0:48:50.480 --> 0:48:51.720
<v Speaker 2>but he clearly.

0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Is trusted by Stafford, as you can tell by the

0:48:54.040 --> 0:48:57.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty targets James he received against the forty nine ers.

0:48:58.520 --> 0:49:00.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we should make it abundantly clear with Cooper Cup

0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:02.800
<v Speaker 3>comes back, this is not just like all right, Cela

0:49:02.840 --> 0:49:04.920
<v Speaker 3>ter Pooka that that is not the case. He's definitely

0:49:04.960 --> 0:49:07.000
<v Speaker 3>gonna have a major role in this offense. And when

0:49:07.040 --> 0:49:08.880
<v Speaker 3>they had those two joint practices in Denver and I

0:49:08.920 --> 0:49:11.239
<v Speaker 3>was there, I was just like, this guy is torching

0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:13.799
<v Speaker 3>a secondary that's supposed to be very, very good. Now

0:49:13.880 --> 0:49:15.799
<v Speaker 3>through the first two games, we haven't really seen it

0:49:15.840 --> 0:49:19.080
<v Speaker 3>plays women at that level, but he was really the

0:49:19.080 --> 0:49:21.360
<v Speaker 3>dominant player in those two games. And I love that

0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:23.880
<v Speaker 3>we bring up Cooper Cup repeatedly because that's what I

0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:25.880
<v Speaker 3>love about Team Steve is this guy drops in the

0:49:25.920 --> 0:49:28.880
<v Speaker 3>draft due to concussion due to speed. He was like

0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:31.480
<v Speaker 3>a four to five guy. You know who else was

0:49:31.480 --> 0:49:33.719
<v Speaker 3>a speed guy that dropped. A guy that dropped because

0:49:33.719 --> 0:49:35.760
<v Speaker 3>of his speed, Cooper Cup. And this is a team

0:49:36.040 --> 0:49:39.480
<v Speaker 3>that has not really been focused on the speed aspect

0:49:39.560 --> 0:49:44.360
<v Speaker 3>of it. It's understanding defenses, understanding space, understanding ways to

0:49:44.400 --> 0:49:48.040
<v Speaker 3>get open. And this is just a great example, just

0:49:48.160 --> 0:49:50.680
<v Speaker 3>like Cooper Cup to go out there and be a

0:49:50.719 --> 0:49:53.440
<v Speaker 3>dominant player when the whole league apparently is based off

0:49:53.480 --> 0:49:54.200
<v Speaker 3>of speed.

0:49:54.960 --> 0:49:57.359
<v Speaker 1>JP he's got football speed because they were using him

0:49:57.360 --> 0:49:58.520
<v Speaker 1>on jet sweeps and things like.

0:49:58.520 --> 0:50:01.480
<v Speaker 2>That as well. They were getting the ball in his hands,

0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:02.600
<v Speaker 2>speaking of speed.

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<v Speaker 1>This edition of the NFL Report, it flew by j Peb.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to thank Sarah Watash and Jeffshediah NFL dot com.

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0:50:11.600 --> 0:50:14.520
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