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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: It's Thursday and Steelers getting in their second day of practice.

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Speaker 1: But before we get into any kind of practice news

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Speaker 1: and notes, Matt, I was doing a little digging last night,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna give you the stats of four quarter

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Speaker 1: or five quarterbacks over the last eight games. Eight games

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Speaker 1: a normal season. It's pretty good sample. Tell me which

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Speaker 1: one you would like to have running your team. Quarterback

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Speaker 1: A and eight games has thrown four teen touchdown passes,

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Speaker 1: eight interceptions. He's averaged uh. He's got a ninety seven

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Speaker 1: point five passer rating UH. And he um has UH

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Speaker 1: two thousand. He's averaged two seventy six yards passing per game. Okay,

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Speaker 1: not too shabby. Okay to seventy fourteen touchdowns, eight interceptions

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Speaker 1: in eight games. Alright, Quarterback B eight games, Uh, he

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Speaker 1: has thrown for sevent hundred and five yards, ten touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: four interceptions, three point seven. I think I want a

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Speaker 1: over b. Okay quarterbacks see has thrown four two thousand,

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Speaker 1: one fifty four yards, was sixteen touchdowns, nine interceptions. That's

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Speaker 1: a passer rating of ninety two point six over the

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Speaker 1: past eight games. I think I want to see over

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Speaker 1: a Okay quarterback uh D has thrown four two thousand,

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Speaker 1: thirty three yards with fifteen touchdown passes, three interceptions and

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Speaker 1: nine nine point nine passer rating. I think I want

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Speaker 1: quarterback D now Okay man quarterback E has thrown for

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Speaker 1: two thousand one under in fifty two yards with eleven

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Speaker 1: touchdowns and six interceptions. That's a passer rating of eighty

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Speaker 1: seven point eight over the last eight games. D D

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Speaker 1: sticking with that, Okay D is Ben Roethlisberger. E is

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. Oh, that doesn't surprise me. Patrick Mahomes over

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Speaker 1: the last eight games has a passer rating of what

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Speaker 1: they say, eighty seven point eight. Quarterback see that was

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Speaker 1: the leader in the clubhouse and sit with sixteen touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: nine interceptions and eight games. That is Josh Allen. M hm.

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Speaker 1: That one surprises me a little. Quarterback B Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't surprise me. Over eight games, Yeah, ten touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: four interceptions, uh you know, point one yards passing per game.

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Speaker 1: Quarterback A Joseph Burrow m okayassing yards, fourteen touchdowns, eight interceptions.

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Speaker 1: That might startle some of the bends in that company.

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Speaker 1: Over eight games, I mean, obviously that's the point of

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Speaker 1: the side. Pretty good stretch of game. Just say, it's

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Speaker 1: not a three game stretch. It's not a one hot

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Speaker 1: game against the terrible oponent. Um. Frankly, I'm sure Tannehill's

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Speaker 1: no work close, not even in the ballpark. His last

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Speaker 1: five games, He's throwing four touchdowns of six interceptions. That's

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Speaker 1: what I'm thinking. It wasn't the easiest exercise sitting here

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Speaker 1: as you read him, I understand, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: And TD to interception ratio is probably what I put

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Speaker 1: the most stock in scoring points. Yeah, fifteen to three.

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Speaker 1: I mean, good things are happening and bad things aren't,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean that's the key there to me,

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Speaker 1: especially when you fill in the blanket. It's been you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean not turning the ball over. Um, I mean

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Speaker 1: strapolate that over. It's that's why I picked eight games. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a four thousand yard passing season with thirty touchdowns

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Speaker 1: of six interceptions, right right, Who in the world wouldn't

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Speaker 1: take that from their quarterback? And they're not you know,

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Speaker 1: cheeseball crappy defense is you know, playing a good defense

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Speaker 1: isn't bad and all the above. You know, by the way,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers are five and three in those eight games. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I mean, you know he's he's playing winning quarterback

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. He didn't play against lines. He didn't

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Speaker 1: playing like there's a tie and there but no, there is.

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Speaker 1: He didn't play. That leads me to um Greg Rosenthal's

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Speaker 1: quarterback rankings. We go over these every once in a while.

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Speaker 1: We haven't done as much this year because all they

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Speaker 1: do is tick me off. They did get you a

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Speaker 1: little fired up, and because the silliness of it all.

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Speaker 1: So I'm looking here at the rankings this week, uh

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Speaker 1: at thirty two before we start defending Greg at all.

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Speaker 1: But I think one of the things that worries me

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Speaker 1: is an analyst for my own self scouting and it

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Speaker 1: definitely analysts all across the internet fall victim to is

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Speaker 1: you get set on an idea and then you can't

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Speaker 1: change him, ever change your mind, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: these guys play a game every week, they put new

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Speaker 1: information out every be open to maybe I'm wrong, you know,

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Speaker 1: begin with. It's just everything changes quickly. So thirty two

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Speaker 1: he is Zack Wilson. No disagreements. He really struggled. He

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Speaker 1: looks like he doesn't belong, although he could make an

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Speaker 1: argument that Trevor Lawrence should be down there right. He's

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Speaker 1: This is months of struggling. Were obviously talked about him

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Speaker 1: At thirty one is Mike Glennon, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: better lately. He's got eight touchdown passes, eight interceptions. You know, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I get going to kill him, right. Trevor Lawrence is

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Speaker 1: at nine Okay, that's I mean, he's nine touchdown passes,

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Speaker 1: things like that. Taysom Hill at seven, I guess I'd

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Speaker 1: have him over all those guys. He's got two touchdown

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Speaker 1: passes and five interceptions. He at least moves the team though,

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Speaker 1: But he's not He's not a quarterback. He's not a

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Speaker 1: thrower of the football. You could take one of your

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Speaker 1: wide receivers and put him a quarterback and he would

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Speaker 1: probably be just as effective a passing receiver that we've seen,

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Speaker 1: like Antwine Randall, Well, where you got right, right right,

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Speaker 1: that type of deal's one Randall is gonna be kicking himself.

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Speaker 1: I could do that. Hell, I'm a better passer. Sean

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Speaker 1: Payton fall with me right um at six, Justin Fields

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Speaker 1: It seems harsh to me. I guess we'll see who's

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Speaker 1: above him. But he has six touchdown passes and ten

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Speaker 1: interceptions and playmaker. I mean, I'd much trying to play

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Speaker 1: against Hill than him. He does have ten fumbles, so

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Speaker 1: somebody in and have you know, Trevor Lawrence likes situation

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Speaker 1: twenty three Ben Roethlisberger. He's clearly the best name you've mentioned.

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Speaker 1: I mean clear He just went through the last eight

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Russell Wilson, and Joe Burrow, and his numbers are,

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Speaker 1: if not better right there with any of those guys,

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Speaker 1: you know what the hell is he doing at three

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Speaker 1: on this list and his team is not one in

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Speaker 1: eight or one and seven and that stragg or you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, and he has a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a body of work to right again, this goes.

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Speaker 1: This is why when you mentioned that I get ticked

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Speaker 1: off about this every time in the in the off season,

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Speaker 1: every time during the training camp, every time early in

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Speaker 1: the season I mentioned something positive on Twitter about Ben Roethlisberger,

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Speaker 1: all the fantasy football analytics guys came after me, Oh,

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Speaker 1: he can't throw, he can't make a twenty yard pass.

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Speaker 1: He's got more thirty yard passes in the last month

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Speaker 1: Roger Rogers. Right right, that's it. He's got, He's got

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Speaker 1: eleven of him, and he's gonna last in the last

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Speaker 1: four games in Yet the other thing, it takes me

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Speaker 1: like you never heard Drew Brees talked about the funny

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Speaker 1: about to say that exact same thing, Like Brees really

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Speaker 1: couldn't throw the ball. He couldn't throw it. Peyton Manning

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Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl that year, but not because not

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Speaker 1: because of him passing by the game by any stretch,

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Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, those two didn't would never been

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Speaker 1: ranked this low. But all three years, famers, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, they would have been fifteen

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Speaker 1: and he probably was eight, you know, like so well,

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Speaker 1: these other dudes. I mean, Glennon has got experience, but

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Speaker 1: not good experience. There's something to be said though, for

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Speaker 1: of the quarterbacking than just the numbers you cited. And

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Speaker 1: the numbers you cited are good. Well, let me give

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Speaker 1: you the guys who are right ahead of them. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Baker fucking Mayfield, there's one in the division that are

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Speaker 1: you kidding me? He's I'd rather play against Mayfield and fields. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: two percent of his passes. The Roethlisberger has him beaten

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Speaker 1: and beat him head to head, right, No, I mean

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure who I would have been over Baker easily.

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Speaker 1: mean I'd probably give the nod to Burrow, Okay, then,

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Speaker 1: and then I'll give it to the Roethlisberger. He's playing

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Speaker 1: betteran Lamar Jackson right now. He agreed, and he feels

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Speaker 1: comically last. It's a different conversation of who would you

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Speaker 1: rather have it right now? But who's playing better? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd go Burrow Ben Lamar. Baker's a distant distant. He

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Speaker 1: might be behind him. The Ravens backup who played last

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Speaker 1: week Huntley. Seriously, I've been some of those names you

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Speaker 1: mentioned to me. I would much rather play against Baker

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Speaker 1: than them. At twenty one? Is Jalen Hurts Okay? I

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Speaker 1: mean he hasn't had a terrible year, and I just

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Speaker 1: little from this guy's not an NFL starter too. Maybe

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Speaker 1: if I'm the Eagles with three first round picks, I'll

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Speaker 1: build around him and give him one more year. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's okay, but he's never gonna be a good passer.

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Speaker 1: It's twenty is toa mm hmm. Two of bets a conversation.

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Speaker 1: He's got a twelve touchdown passes, six interceptions and nine games.

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Speaker 1: I like the way he's playing. He's playing, he's playing fine.

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Speaker 1: what he does. Yeah, he's really a crisp and maker.

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, I didn't kind of like, I didn't call

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Speaker 1: I'd have Rogers one. I have Rogers one too. He's

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. That's why I brought this whole

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Speaker 1: him based on name or well. Derek Carr's got a

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Speaker 1: just means they've been losing a lot. Who should be

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl like Trevor Simeon went one year. That's true.

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Speaker 1: But this whole idea that Roethlisberger is stinking up the

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Speaker 1: all these all these things that we're out there, and

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Speaker 1: I tweeted those numbers out of for Roethlisberger. Last thing

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Speaker 1: interceptible balls. He's not throwing interceptions, not throw interceptions. He's

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Speaker 1: got three? How many you know? And that you know

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Speaker 1: somebody else tweeted back in reply to that, I didn't

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Speaker 1: do it, but they did. Okay, you're gonna count interceptible passes.

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Speaker 1: How many touchdown passes have been dropped? Yeah? Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: should be number if you're gonna do advanced you know,

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Speaker 1: t DD interception ratio. We can't just do one side

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Speaker 1: quarterback on this list throws interceptible passes. The beauty he

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Speaker 1: threw to Friarmouth then the game. He didn't do it wrong,

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Speaker 1: He didn't do anything wrong, and that was that was

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Speaker 1: maybe his best pass of the season. I mean, that

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Speaker 1: was perfect. Absolutely didn't get any credit for in any

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Speaker 1: of this exercise, you know what I mean. So it

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Speaker 1: just it just drives me. It does balance out. It

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Speaker 1: just and I don't I'm not going into this trying

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Speaker 1: But she didn't. Nobody talked about Breeze like that at

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Speaker 1: the end of his career, and he couldn't throw the

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Speaker 1: ball from me to you. No, it was really bad

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Speaker 1: there at the end. I mean they showed you they

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Speaker 1: a thirty year passed down the field. It was never

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Speaker 1: in weather, right, right, right, right, I mean he was

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Speaker 1: twelve on these lists, like right right, No, that's a

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Speaker 1: hundred percent true. That's very recent memory. I mean, yeah,

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