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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm

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Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal here with Alana Rizzo and Alana. We are

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Speaker 1: one week away from the trade deadline and we're going

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Speaker 1: to get into all that, but first we have to

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Speaker 1: talk about a bungling, blundering team wearing pinstripes.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Ken, Hi, good to be with you as always

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Speaker 3: on this Thursday. I tell you what it seems like

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Speaker 3: the New York Yankees, at least temporarily, are taking a

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Speaker 3: page out of the Bad News Bears book. Ken, what

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Speaker 3: more can you tell us about just the fundamental defense

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Speaker 3: that doesn't seem to be there?

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Speaker 1: Well, last night was basically an embarrassment and eight to

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Speaker 1: four loss to the Toronto Blue Jays, the team they

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Speaker 1: are chasing in the Ale East. The Yankees made four

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Speaker 1: errors in three innings. At one point there were other

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Speaker 1: players that were not errors that were not made, and

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Speaker 1: that makes twelve errors in ten games against the Jays

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Speaker 1: this season. Now, afterward, Aaron Boone said that really they've

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Speaker 1: been a good defensive team, but they had two bad

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Speaker 1: series in Toronto. Okay, perhaps, but this speaks to a

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Speaker 1: much larger issue, and I wrote about it today in

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Speaker 1: my column, just the idea that in the eyes of

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Speaker 1: many Yankee fans, Boone is way too forgiving of his

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Speaker 1: players publicly, way too soft on them. And what I

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Speaker 1: wrote essentially was his public comments essentially are irrelevant. They

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Speaker 1: don't matter in the long run. What matters is performance,

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Speaker 1: how the team performs on the field, and if Boone

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Speaker 1: is holding them accountable behind the scenes, that's all that

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Speaker 1: really matters. If they play better, and when they play

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Speaker 1: like this, and they have at various points this season,

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Speaker 1: and this goes back years now under Boone, it makes

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Speaker 1: you wonder what the heck is going on if indeed,

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes he is being more firm, holding players

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Speaker 1: more accountable. If he is, it isn't showing on the field,

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Speaker 1: And that to me is the issue, not so much

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Speaker 1: him being too soft here and too milk toast, even

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Speaker 1: though I know a lot of fans feel at times

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Speaker 1: he's gaslighting them by essentially saying, now, what you're seeing

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Speaker 2: It's not okay.

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Speaker 1: He knows that, but he needs to relay that, I

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Speaker 1: would think to the players privately, and.

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Speaker 2: Whether that is going on, to what extent that is

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Speaker 3: We don't know ken if you ask the players, though

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Speaker 3: they love playing for him. Cameron Mayban, of course, who

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Speaker 3: does stuff here with us on Foul Territory, was saying

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Speaker 3: he played for Aaron Bone and he absolutely loves playing

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Speaker 3: for him. Do you think that is because he has

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Speaker 3: given them too much rope? Or he truly does have

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Speaker 3: their back publicly but does hold them accountable behind closed doors.

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Speaker 3: Not certain that you know that answer, But why do

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Speaker 3: you think it is that the players love him even

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Speaker 3: though there's this perception that he's not perhaps holding them accountable.

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Speaker 1: They love him because he does have their back, that's

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Speaker 1: absolutely right alone in my estimation. And they love him

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Speaker 1: also because he's an excellent communicator. He is a guy

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Speaker 1: Understands the give and take of the game, understands how

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Speaker 2: Some people might have.

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Speaker 1: Seen the exchange he had with John Boy on his

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Speaker 1: weekly show with Them this week, and those guys were

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Speaker 1: asking about players not giving fiery public comments, not expressing

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Speaker 1: greater or more acute disappointment, and his point was, hey,

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Speaker 1: I don't want them like that. I want them on

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Speaker 1: an even keel. Now in baseball, because we play one

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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty two games, that is the preferred way

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Speaker 1: this is the point of what I wrote again, there

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Speaker 1: has to be accountability and there has to be some

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Speaker 1: level of crispness to a team's play. It's not just

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Speaker 1: the Yankees that play like this in this day and age,

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Speaker 1: in fairness to them, but we saw in Game five

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Speaker 1: of last year's World Series. We've seen at various points

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Speaker 1: over the last several years this kind of sloppiness, and

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Speaker 3: Ken does it beg the question that perhaps one of

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Speaker 3: the reasons that Aaron Boone was hired was because Joe

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Speaker 3: Girardi was too rigid, maybe wanting his players to be

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Speaker 3: too rigid, and that just doesn't necessarily go over with

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Speaker 3: why he was attractive As far as a new manager,

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Speaker 3: a new voice, Alana.

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Speaker 1: We see it all the time. It's a great point

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Speaker 1: Joe Girardi was too rigid, He was not as good

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Speaker 1: a communicator as perhaps he could have been, and that

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Speaker 1: was at least the perception in that clubhouse, the perception

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Speaker 1: the front office had of Girardi. It was time, so

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Speaker 1: they went to a guy who had never managed before,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Boone at any level, but of course has had

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Speaker 1: great success. Look at the wins and losses. Third most

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Speaker 1: Aaron Boone's tenure is a huge success. But at the

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Speaker 1: same time, as I point out in the column, it

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Speaker 1: seems like at times they've almost gone too far the

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Speaker 2: I'm looking for the right words and maybe not finding them.

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Speaker 1: But this is the give and take that managers face.

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Speaker 1: And you're right, Alana. In today's game, you can't be

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Speaker 1: ear a Weaver or Billy Martin, or even when Jim

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Speaker 1: Leland used to be. You cannot get in players' faces.

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Speaker 1: They will not respond and you will lose them. But

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Speaker 1: The measure of a manager, in my opinion, is if

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Speaker 1: he keeps his team playing hard, which I would say

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Speaker 1: Boone does, and if he keeps his team playing at

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Speaker 1: a high fundamental level, that is where the Yankees have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, perhaps a happy medium is in there somewhere. Certainly

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Speaker 3: not saying Aaron Boone should be fired. He gets to

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Speaker 3: the postseason perennially, but there's got to be some sort

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Speaker 3: of give and take there in terms of that. All right,

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Speaker 3: moving on, Ken, let's talk a bit about the trade deadline.

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Speaker 3: As you mentioned, it's about a week away. Henneo Suarez

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Speaker 3: seems to be on the top of a lot of

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Speaker 1: Best that are available in a thin market at midley.

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Speaker 1: He is having an amazing season, all the home runs,

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Speaker 1: and the Diamondbacks just got swept by the Astros at home,

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Speaker 1: but from the Diamondbacks perspective, and I wrote about this

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Speaker 1: they don't want to sell. That is against what their

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Speaker 1: general manager, Mike Hayson stands for. It's against what their

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Speaker 1: owner Ken Kendrick wants to do. And at the same

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Speaker 2: To look at reality.

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Speaker 1: They are fading in the wildcard race. They've got a

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Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier this week.

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Speaker 1: They have a number of potential free agents that they're

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Speaker 1: you have to get something for some of these guys. Now,

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Speaker 1: with regard to Suarez, see Trent Rose of The Athletic

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Speaker 1: Today reporting that the Reds are among the teams interested,

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Speaker 1: and we've heard about the Cubs and the Yankees, of course,

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Speaker 1: the Mariners. All of these teams are interested. I wrote

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Speaker 1: this season, it's on him. Guess what they didn't spend

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Speaker 1: their playing He's laughing all the way to the bank,

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Speaker 1: Brewers do it their way. They're unique, for sure, but

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Speaker 1: they also need power and if you look at their

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Speaker 1: slugging numbers, they're hard hit percentages, all of that, Alana,

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Speaker 1: it's not great. Suarez would help.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like the Brewers are almost kind of

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Speaker 3: it seems to continue to work itself out all right,

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Speaker 3: trade deadlines on everybody's vind Ken. What do you see

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Speaker 3: happening with right hand or Dustin May of the Los

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Speaker 3: you see his days with the Dodgers being done?

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Speaker 1: I can see either scenario, Alana. And what we reported

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Speaker 2: He's a potential free agent.

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Speaker 1: He might be back, he might not, but he's the

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Speaker 1: kind of picture that certainly would be in some demand,

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Speaker 1: The other option, though, of course, is to put Dustin

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Speaker 3: Ken, I think that's been the role for him right

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Speaker 3: the last couple of outings. I mean, shoe Heyo Tani

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Speaker 3: really feel like Dustin May's stuff plays better in the bullpen.

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Speaker 3: I think he has really good stuff for about three

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Speaker 3: you want to be able to go deep into the ballgame.

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Speaker 3: With Blake Snell coming back, I would love to see

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Speaker 3: Dustin I don't want Dustin May to be traded, although

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Speaker 3: what are you going to get in return? And Andrew

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Speaker 3: Friedman hates over paying for relievers, but with this relief

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Speaker 3: Tanner Scott is on the il Kirby Yates doesn't look good.

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Speaker 3: You know Evan Phillips is out for the season, Blake

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Speaker 3: Dustin May as a long man in the Dodgers' bullpen again.

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Speaker 3: It just kind of seems we'll just have to wait

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Speaker 3: and see. I asked for Andrew Friedman and Dave Roberts

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Speaker 3: to come on Dodgers' territory today. They haven't written me

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Speaker 3: back yet. Ken, I'm not sure why.

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Speaker 1: A lot of one more point on this, and obviously

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers have trouble keeping pictures healthy.

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Speaker 2: Would you trade a healthy.

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Speaker 1: Pitcher a guy who is second on your team and

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Speaker 1: innings pitched at the same time. They've gotten burned trading

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Speaker 1: prospects for relievers over the years O'Neil Cruz for Tony

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Speaker 2: The Dodgers do not want to do this again.

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Speaker 1: They've got a ton of prospects. They can make trades

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the jor Don Alvarez Josh Fields trade still keeps

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Speaker 3: Is Mikel Garcia a real interest for the Yankees? Are

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Speaker 3: Can Do you think the likelihood of any teams that

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Speaker 1: Question, Alanna, and two team trades are difficult enough to

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Speaker 1: I expect that that can be the case this year

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Speaker 1: But whether that happens again beyond two teams, we'll see.

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Speaker 3: I can't even imagine that. A lot of moving parts

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Speaker 3: He seems very like stoic and always has very thoughtful answers,

437
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 3: very poetic and then he gets into a charter plane

438
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,679
Speaker 3: and he gets on the microphone that is used for

439
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 3: the flight attendants and has the entire team rolling. Good

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Speaker 3: for him, Good for his wife, Caitlin. It's good to

441
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 3: see him still out there. He's like the new Jamie Moyer.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: All right, my dude of the week, I'm going to

444
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 3: give it to three teams who easily can could have

445
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 3: thrown in the towel wave the white flag, if you will,

446
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 3: the Rockies, the Marlins, and the White Sox. I don't

447
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 3: give the Due to the Week award to the organizations.

448
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 3: I give the Dude to the World Dude of the

449
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Speaker 3: Week award to the players themselves, because they could easily say,

450
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 3: you know what, forget it, We're not going anywhere. I mean,

451
00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 3: maybe some of them are trying to showcase their talent

452
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 3: so other teams can pick them up and get them

453
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 3: the hell out of Colorado, Miami and Chicago. But they

454
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Speaker 3: are my dudes of the week for not giving up

455
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Speaker 3: and putting together some decent games and some decent series. Okay,

456
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Speaker 3: time now for the John Fisher Dork of the week. Okay,

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Speaker 3: who's your dork of the week, ken hold On.

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Speaker 1: I want to start off by saying, I have a

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Speaker 1: ton of respect for major league umpires, a ton of

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Speaker 1: sympathy for major league umpires who take grief night after

461
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Speaker 1: night after night. Some of it deserved, but much of

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Speaker 1: it not. That said, there are times when an umpire snaps,

463
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Speaker 1: understandably snaps and crosses the line. Chad Witson crossed the

464
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Speaker 1: line the other night when he went to the Giants clubhouse.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, dugout, and you could see it right there.

466
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Speaker 1: He yelled, worry about getting out of the third inning.

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Speaker 1: Now we don't know for sure that he was directing

468
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Speaker 1: at it justin Verlander, but Justin Verlander the night before

469
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: had not gotten out of the third inning. So it

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Speaker 1: stands the reason that's who Chad Witson was yelling at.

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Speaker 1: And there are certain things that go on on the field,

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Speaker 1: back and forth that.

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Speaker 2: You can understand.

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00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: You can understand managers getting hot, you can understand on

475
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: pirates getting hot. But that, to me crossed the line.

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Speaker 1: With a future Hall of Famer, that was just not right. Now.

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00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 1: I have no idea what Verlander might have said to

478
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: prompt it, if indeed that is what happened. But at

479
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 1: the same time, that was not a good look. So

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Speaker 1: Chad witson without knowing more information, You're my dork of

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Speaker 1: the week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense. My doork of the week is

483
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Speaker 3: and it's hard to say this because obviously he's an

484
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Speaker 3: unbelievable player and unbelievable person, but Sho Hee Otani is

485
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 3: my dork of the week only because Ken And this

486
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 3: might lie on the hands of the Dodgers too. I

487
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 3: don't know, but I know that there have been a

488
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 3: lot of rule changes in terms of the way that

489
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 3: the media is allowed to interview some folks after games

490
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 3: one and show Heyotani became a Dodger. There's just certain

491
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 3: things parameters that have that they have to now follow

492
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 3: and show hey Otani yesterday tied a franchise record with

493
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 3: five straight home runs. He has five straight games with

494
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 3: a home run in each game. Obviously the record is

495
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 3: eight right, eight straight games with the home run, but

496
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 3: it did tie a Dodgers franchise record. He also was

497
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 3: intentionally walked, obviously, just you know, gamesmanship type of situation

498
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 3: by the Twins, but he didn't make himself available after

499
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 3: the game. And again, could that have been a Dodgers call?

500
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 3: Could that have been a show Hey call that bothers

501
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 3: me because as a media member and as a journalist,

502
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 3: we have our jobs to do too, and that's a

503
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 3: big part of the story, right, It wasn't as if

504
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 3: it wasn't a loss. I mean, the Dodgers came back

505
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 3: and walked it off by Freddie Freeman. I just feel

506
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 3: like Showhy should have made himself available to the media

507
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 3: to talk about that milestone, to talk about the game,

508
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 3: to talk about, you know, whatever it is, whatever questions

509
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 3: they had in terms of being able to get their

510
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 3: job done as well. And I know that you've dealt

511
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 3: with this too. You are in so many different aspects

512
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 3: of journalism, obviously with Fox here unfair territory writing for

513
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 3: the Athletic. This is a frustrating thing for a journalist

514
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 3: when a big piece of the story is not made available.

515
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 1: It's true and often when fans say, well, who cares,

516
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: We don't care if the players speak to you, my

517
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: response is, hey, when they don't speak, they kind of

518
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,959
Speaker 1: put it on their teammates to speak. Now, last night

519
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: was not necessarily that kind of situation, but it's basically

520
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: just a responsibility players have.

521
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 2: So that's how I would view that one.

522
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean again, he's the face of the game

523
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 3: right now the sport. I just wish he would have

524
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 3: made that available for those of us that those of

525
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 3: you that are still with us, we appreciate it very much.

526
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 3: And you were coming to my neck of the woods.

527
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 3: I'm insulted, Ken that you didn't ask if you could

528
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 3: stay at Chateau Rizzo here in the Boston area. This

529
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 3: is going to be an interesting series that the Dodgers

530
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 3: and the Red Sox, both teams kind of limping into

531
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Speaker 3: it right now with their play over the last you know,

532
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 3: since the All Star Break. What do you hope to

533
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 3: see from these two clubs?

534
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: From the Red Sox a continuation of what we saw

535
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 1: last night in Philadelphia that was perhaps their biggest win

536
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 1: of the year. They came back, they had lateening drama,

537
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: they had a lot of things go right, and they

538
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 1: just need to kind of stabilize themselves again. They were

539
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: playing so well before the break. They've been too enforced

540
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: since the break, so they just need to kind of

541
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: build some momentum and they need reinforcement in the next

542
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: week from their President of Baseball Operations, Craig Breslo.

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Speaker 2: No question about that.

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Speaker 1: The Dodgers, I wonder when they're going to kind of

545
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: snap to it. And it's still only July twenty fourth,

546
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: and it's not a situation of urgency.

547
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 2: They've got the division.

548
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: Lead, they're going to make the playoffs, But you wonder

549
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: when is this all going to click? When are their

550
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: players going to get healthy, how are they going to reinforce.

551
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 2: Their bullpen, what is going on with Mooky?

552
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: All these different little nagging issues that right now individually

553
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: are not devastating in any way. But come September, when

554
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: you want to roll into October, where are they going

555
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: to be then? And that is the curiosity I've got

556
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: with the Dodgers. I've had it all season. When will

557
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: they turn it on?

558
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: Will they be able to turn it on?

559
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 3: Isn't that funny they're still leading the division? Or wondering

560
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 3: when the Dodgers are going to be able to turn

561
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 3: it on? Let me ask you this though you mentioned

562
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 3: Mooki bets and nobody is harder on Mooki than Moki himself.

563
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 3: Dave Roberts essentially benched him the other day, said that

564
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: he was giving him a mental break. Obviously, you wrote

565
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 3: about this in your column specifically about the Yankees on

566
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 3: how to handle unproductive players. But it was right after

567
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Speaker 3: the All Star break, so I don't think that Mooky

568
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 3: needed that the rest or the mental break, but he's

569
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 3: certainly struggling. How do you think Mooki is best served

570
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 3: to get out of this and get back to the

571
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 3: player that we know he is and that he certainly

572
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 3: knows he is.

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Speaker 1: Wow, A lot of that is a great question, And

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00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 1: you're right about Mooky.

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Speaker 2: He's extremely hard.

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00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: On himself to a fault sometimes maybe not just sometimes,

577
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: maybe a lot of times. And he does not believe

578
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: this has anything to do with his play at shortstop

579
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: moving to shortstop full time. He just cannot kind of

580
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: figure out what is going on now. You can't bench

581
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: him for an extended period. That would make no sense.

582
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Speaker 1: The mental relief, I understand that that was obviously Dave

583
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: Roberts saw something in that first game that he said, Nope,

584
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: we got to give him a day. So the obvious

585
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: thing here is to keep playing and keep going.

586
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: That's what major league players do. That's what Mookey Betts

587
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 2: has done his entire career.

588
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: But you worry that this has gone on for so long.

589
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: This is not just now the stomach illness that hurt

590
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: him early on. This is an extended season long slump

591
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,959
Speaker 1: and he has to play himself out of it. But

592
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: it's not easy to do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no question about that. It'll be interesting to see

594
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Speaker 3: the series this weekend. Ken, I hope to see you

595
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 3: over the course of the weekend at Fenway. For everybody

596
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 3: watching Fair Territory with Ken Rosenthal, we appreciate it. Ken

597
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 3: has a brand new episode on Monday. Don't forget Foul

598
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