WEBVTT - Unsinkable Democracy 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:14.400 Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Okay f Daily with 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:17.760 Meet your Girl Danielle Moody reporting from the Brooklyn Bunker 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:20.840 and frankly glad as hell that it is Friday. This 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:27.800 has been yet again another draining, goddamn week in this country. 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:32.199 That is the Titanic that I believe is sinking. I 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:35.519 actually don't believe that there is anything that can be 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:39.760 done to turn around the direction that this country is 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:45.720 headed in. You know, I yesterday, as many of you know, 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:52.879 Oklahoma has now banned abortion beginning at fertilization. This is 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:58.640 now the nation's strictest abortion law, and the governor is 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:03.280 going to sign it imediately. I want you to listen 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:07.880 to this from the New York Times. This bill subjects 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:12.280 abortion providers and anyone who aids or bets an abortion 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:16.080 to civil suits from private individuals. It would take effect 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:20.200 immediately if signed by Governor Kevin Stitt, a Republican who 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:23.240 has pledged to make his state the most anti abortion 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:26.520 state in the nation. There can be no higher or 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:31.000 more critical than the defense of innocent unborn life, says 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:36.920 State Representative Jim Olsen, a Republican in the Oklahoma House. 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:42.000 I want to say this. I'm so fucking sick and 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:47.200 tired of white men. I'm gonna say it. I am 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:53.840 so fucking sick and tired of conservative white men and 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:57.680 fucking moderate white men being the ones that get to 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:03.120 dictate the bodily automy the fucking movements of everybody else 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:08.600 in this goddamn country. I don't give a fuck about 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:13.400 your religious proclivities. I don't care what kind of sex 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:16.840 you want to have or not. You should not have 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:22.120 the ability to determine someone else's life outcomes that don't 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:26.760 fucking affect you. And what's amazing at this time that 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:31.480 all of these anti abortion pieces of legislation are passing 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:36.400 across the country is that we have a baby formula 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:41.359 shortage that everyone has been talking about, that the news 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:44.120 has been covering over and over again. But you know 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:47.560 what they're not doing making the connection between the fact 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:52.959 that Republicans actually don't give a fuck about babies. What 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:56.000 they care about is control, because if they gave a 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:59.080 shit about babies, and one hundred and ninety two members 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:02.680 of the House republic Party would not have voted against 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:09.760 providing emergency resources to mothers who are trying desperately to 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:16.160 feed their goddamned children. This is about control. This is 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:18.760 not about anybody's sanctity of life. Because if it was 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:23.400 about the sanctity of life, then you would have health 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:28.640 education in schools, right, that is comprehensive. You would fund 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:34.200 health clinics across the country to make sure that people 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:37.320 have access to the type of life saving screening and 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:43.400 reproductive care that allows them to actually have healthy babies. 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:49.520 You would support government agencies and systems that our tax 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:52.920 dollars fucking pay into, that you send across the fucking 0:03:53.560 --> 0:04:00.120 world for war and death, but do nothing here to 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:04.000 preserve anyone sanctity of life that arrives outside of a 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:09.440 fucking uterus. I am so sick to death of Democrats 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:15.280 and their whining, their wimpiness with regard to what they 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:22.200 can't do because they don't have sixty votes. Figure out 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:27.520 your maneuvers, figure out the law you've had fifty years. 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:30.039 But now everybody wants to walk around in the Democratic 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:33.640 Party as if they're completely and totally fucking dumbstruck, like 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:37.480 they are caught off guard and just outdone. Oh my god, 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:41.240 I cannot believe Republicans did and are activating everything that 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:43.200 they've been telling us that they were going to do 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:48.240 and activate for the last fifty years. You will listen 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:53.240 to my guests today, Andrea Miller, who is the executive 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:59.400 director of the National Council for Reproductive Health that works 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.400 at the state and local level to ensure that women 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:06.240 and people with uteruses are able to receive the type 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:09.839 of care that they need. She'll talk about the fact 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:14.520 that thirteen hundred laws have been passed to a restrict 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:19.080 abortion since Roe v. Wade was passed, many of them 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:24.040 being signed on happily by Democrats. We have a president 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:27.360 of the United States that wasn't even able until recently 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:36.919 to even utter the word abortion, folks. Jeet Yellen recently 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:41.240 was in a hearing before Congress. She was in a 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:46.080 hearing that was about inflation, and she made the not 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:53.040 two right difficult to understand connection between our economic stability 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:56.200 in our country and the and the ability of women 0:05:56.240 --> 0:06:02.400 to have an abortion. She said that our the health 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:06.599 and well being in our ability to compete on a 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:12.600 global level will be significantly impeded if women are removed 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:16.560 from the workforce. But you see, we know that Republicans 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:19.440 want to remove women from the workforce, and how do 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:22.159 we know that, Oh I don't know, because the Tucker 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:26.600 Carlson's of the world have talked about how you know, 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:32.279 feminism has gotten in the way of men being able 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:36.080 to be men, Because apparently a man, a white man 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:39.240 in particular, can only be a man if he is 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:44.240 subjugating women. Apparently a man can only be a man 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.479 so long as he has somebody in his life to 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:51.200 impose his fucking will on. That doesn't sound like a 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:56.000 man to me, that sounds like a fucking punk. And frankly, 0:06:56.320 --> 0:07:02.599 I am again exhausted by Democrats and their inability to 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:07.159 just tell the fucking truth with passion and conviction. Stop 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:10.160 shaking and wagging your finger at people that are shameless, 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:15.040 start rolling out court cases, start using your goddamn subpoena power. 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:20.840 Maybe switch out your fucking whimp ass Attorney general, head 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.240 of the fucking Department of Justice, and get somebody in 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:27.440 there that actually has some skin in the goddamn game 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:29.600 and doesn't think that we have all the time in 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:34.080 the world to deal with our crumbling, rapidly crumbling democracy. 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:44.720 I don't get why people that are in power right 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:49.280 now do not have the same level of anger and 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:52.720 rage that I do because they have the power to 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:56.400 actually do something about it. All I can do with 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:59.400 the platform that I have, it's to be able to 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.680 raise awareness to people who are not in the know. 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:07.560 But I do not have the power to sign legislation 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:10.840 to whip votes, to whisper into the ear of the 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:13.040 president that I don't know what the fuck you are 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.840 paying attention to, but you all want to keep running 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:20.400 up the fucking money to Ukraine. Meanwhile, people are literally 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:25.040 starving in this country. People are literally needing to get 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.680 second jobs to be able to afford to put gas 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:32.040 in their goddamn tanks, and are having to rely on 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:35.720 food banks in their communities so that they can balance 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:40.960 the rising costs of everything. But the Senate has no 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:46.640 problem sending money for war that they pass without even 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:49.160 having any type of debate on it. But if that 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.640 same money we were to ask for that for support 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:56.400 of the American people, all American families, then my god, 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:59.400 we have to open up debate for two weeks, and 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:05.120 even that not a fucking thing will happen. The ways 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:08.400 in which we are expecting Americans to adapt to our 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:17.560 shrinking democracy is astounding. It is astounding. It is astounding 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:22.880 to me that gas is higher today than it was 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:26.360 on Monday. It is astounding to me that in the 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:31.000 quote unquote wealthiest nation, we can't produce baby formula. It 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:35.920 is astounding to me that, oh, gas is so expensive. 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:40.360 The price of oil is so expensive that every issue, 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:44.720 every problem that happens for industries and companies must then 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:48.960 be rolled over onto consumers. Meanwhile, the shareholders and CEOs 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:52.079 of said oil companies are bringing home tens of fucking 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:59.200 millions of dollars a fucking year. Oh now, it's the 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:02.360 price of d is going to be skyrocketing, and our 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:06.080 inability to be able to produce diesel, Oh, guess what 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:12.520 runs on diesel, dear friends, airplanes, trains, So guess what 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.839 is going to happen once again? That cost is going 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:18.600 to roll down and fall on the heads of the consumers. 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:21.480 And all the administration is going to do is wag 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:25.679 their finger and say, you know, oil CEO should do better, 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:29.079 but you don't actually create policies to demand that they 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:33.040 do and then hold them accountable when they don't. I 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:37.000 am sick to fucking death of this place. And you know, 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:41.440 it is becoming so evident with each and every interview 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:45.679 that I do with lawyers, with abortion providers, with activists, 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:50.959 with academics, with authors, that there is no turning this 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:55.040 ship around. So what does that mean for those of 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:58.160 us who have means? Does that mean that now is 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:00.400 the time to get the fuck out of this country 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:04.760 because otherwise we're all just rearranging the chairs on the 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:08.400 Titanic and just going down with the ship while Democrats 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:12.400 scream as it's sinking that like here you go, Republicans 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:18.080 will get you next election as they're fucking sinking, like 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:21.559 what are we all waiting around here? Four exactly? Just 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:27.120 a full on shootouts on the street, The fact that 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:34.280 we'll have buffalo massacres every week every day, that our 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:37.200 incarceol system is going to get ready to have a 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:41.520 new track of women of color and poor women that 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:43.959 they are going to run through the system so that 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:49.800 the women inmates that number will skyrocket for no other 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:51.720 reason than the fact that they were trying to have 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:55.200 autonomy over their own bodies but have now become criminals 0:11:55.240 --> 0:12:00.600 who are aiding and abetting. The real fucking criminals in 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:03.440 this country is the Republican Party, And the actual real 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.960 fucking crime is Democrats inability to hold them accountable for 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:09.800 a fucking thing, whether it is a goddamn insurrection, whether 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.320 it is abortion laws, whether it is voting laws. I 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:16.440 cannot continue to sit around and just point one finger 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:20.200 squarely at Republicans who have told us from the beginning 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:22.400 who they are and what they care about, and who 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:27.840 they don't. I ask every day, I'm like, what is 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:32.200 Jamie Harrison doing at the DNC, What is Nancy Pelosi 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:34.880 doing as the head of the House, What is Chuck 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:38.679 Schumer doing as the head of the Senate? What are 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:44.439 these people doing? They're sitting around and they're giving interviews, 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:48.000 and they are offering no solutions whatsoever, no strategies, just 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:54.480 a bunch of what a bunch of votes on the 0:12:54.480 --> 0:13:01.120 floor that don't actually mean anything. Our lives are changing 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:04.800 minute by minute by many and not for the fucking better, 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:12.080 and they're just going around as if it's business as usual. 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:20.280 I just I don't understand. And when I hear, if 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:22.760 I hear one more person talk to me about how 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:24.960 abortion and the loss of it is going to be 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:29.199 the galvanizing force for white women, like it's not. They 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:34.200 don't give a fuck. They will find a way to 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:38.199 get an abortion. 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Folks, I, you know, all 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:44.680 I can say is that this has been a fucking 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:56.120 week and I need to do some real meditation, prayer, planting, 0:16:57.000 --> 0:17:00.880 connection with friends and the universe, and staging some shit 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:05.760 out because every day I am feeling worse and that 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:07.720 is not good for my mental health. It is not 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:11.280 good for anybody's mental health, because I just don't I 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:14.720 don't see how we fight this. I really don't, and 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:18.119 particularly with a party that has absolutely no fight within it. 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:20.679 I'm just like they are literally hanging the rest of 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:24.199 us out to dry and just going to say sorry. 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:30.040 Coming up next, my conversation with the executive director of 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:38.479 the National Institute for Reproductive Health, Andrea Miller. Folks, I 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:41.480 am very excited to welcome back. It's been a few years, 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:45.679 but to welcome back to woke a f daily Andrea Miller, 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:49.280 who is the executive director at NIRG, the National Institute 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:52.840 for Reproductive Health, which is the leading organization focused on 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:57.800 advancing protecting the needs of those that have uterus is 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:02.840 at the state and local level. Andrea I can't imagine 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:07.480 that you were sleeping. I can't imagine that anyone on 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:11.239 your staff is sleeping. You have been the head of 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:15.760 this organization since two thousand and eleven, and I want 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:20.680 you to be able to tell us one your reaction 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:24.600 to the leaked decision, and then two how you were 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:29.200 looking at this landscape differently than you did eleven years 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:33.720 ago when you took the home. Well, it's great to 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:37.159 be back, and thank you for having me. It is 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:39.520 a hard time to sleep these days, there's no question 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:43.160 about that. I mean, look the Supreme Court draft opinion 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:46.440 that was leaked. I will say, of course I kept 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:49.000 saying I was, you know, using a lot of f 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:51.439 words that were keeping me going, but they were really 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:55.200 that I was furious and fired up because the reality 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:58.359 is I'm furious because of course we knew this was coming. 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:01.119 We have been saying that this is what is likely 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:04.240 to happen. We saw the Supreme Court get packed by 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:08.360 Trump with people part of their purpose in life has 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:10.560 been to get to this place and do this terrible, 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.480 dreadful thing that they are about to do in overturning 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:17.919 roversus Wade so not surprising but infuriating because it is 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:20.879 so contrary to the direction this country should be going in. 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:23.879 It's so contrary to the needs and the values and 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:26.480 the views of the majority in this country, and it 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:30.240 will be so harmful and so devastating for so many people. 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:34.520 Because we really are probably looking at, perhaps on day one, 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:37.280 you know, at least thirteen states with trigger laws that 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:39.560 say that they will ban abortion as soon as there 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:42.800 is no roversus wade, and those are criminal abortion bands 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:46.720 that punish people who provide care will probably be used 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:49.760 to punish people who try to get care. So it's 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:52.560 you know, and then you've got another dozen states or 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:56.479 so that are ready to use their existing bands that 0:19:56.520 --> 0:20:00.119 are enjoined right now because of row or pre O 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:04.359 bands to try to do the same, and so it's infuriating, 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:08.840 but it's also really like, Okay, this is the time, folks. 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:13.719 We know this is happening, and we've seen so much response, 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:18.640 so much outpouring, and you know, we work, as you mentioned, Danielle, 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:20.919 we work at the state and local level all across 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:22.920 the country, and that means that we're in about half 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:25.840 the states every year. And I can tell you that 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:30.359 the number of requests from our partners, both current groups 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:32.840 that we're working with on the ground in the states, 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:35.200 and folks we've worked with in the past, and folks 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:37.480 we've never worked with, who are like, what can my 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:40.920 state do? What can my city do? What can I do? 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:43.439 And so I'm really fired up by that because I 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:47.280 think it means that we have real momentum going into 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:51.440 the elections this fall, and real momentum in getting creative 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:54.639 and really digging in and making sure that people who 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:57.920 have unses can get pregnant and need abortion care are 0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:00.000 able to get it in whatever form we can get 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:02.920 at it for them. You know, let me asked about 0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:06.160 the trajectory. Yeah, yeah, I wanted to tell me about 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:09.440 the trajectory. Yeah. Gods. So that's the interesting thing about 0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:13.720 the trajectory is that certainly when I took the helm 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:16.240 here in twenty eleven, we had just had the twenty 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:19.720 ten Tea Party sweep, and so we were seeing the 0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:24.439 wave of the beginnings of the real wave of extreme 0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:27.520 restrictions on abortion care. But you know, it's important to 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:31.280 remember that since Rowe there have been thirteen hundred laws 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:33.960 against abortion passed at the state level. So there have 0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:37.760 been waves and waves and waves of these kinds of 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:40.800 restrictive laws. But in the last you know, three to 0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:43.640 five years, in particularly the last three years, I think 0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:50.160 very much emboldened by Trump, the increase in the bands 0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:53.080 and the willingness to figure out all kinds of really 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:59.680 heinous but innovative ways to try to work around the 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:03.399 lawsuits that have been successful in preventing the bands. We've 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:09.040 seen really that like intensity factor ratchet up significantly. And 0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:11.840 I do believe that that is because of Trump's time 0:22:11.840 --> 0:22:14.760 in the White House, because of the willingness to be 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:21.639 so stigmatizing, so harsh and horrible about people who need 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:24.879 to exercise their right to make decisions about their sexual 0:22:24.880 --> 0:22:29.840 and reproductive lives. And that tenure, that tenor really has 0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:34.600 infected what's happened in the States, And so I think 0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:39.960 we've seen an increased ugliness to it. But I've always believed, 0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:42.640 and I've always known, and our strategy has always been, 0:22:42.680 --> 0:22:44.200 we've got to do the work at the state and 0:22:44.359 --> 0:22:46.760 local level. Even if all you care about is Congress, 0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:48.760 in the Supreme Court and the Presidency, you've got to 0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:51.639 care about the states. That's where it all happened. You know. 0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:57.080 The thing that I never understand andreat I and I 0:22:57.080 --> 0:23:01.160 am kind of like dumbfounded by is We've had an 0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:07.960 opposition to abortion and repro rights for fifty years, like 0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:11.840 you have said, since Roe was passed in nineteen seventy four, 0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:17.679 there have been thirteen hundred policies, pieces of legislation that 0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:21.480 have been passed to chop away, not chip away, but 0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:25.600 to chop away at the rights that Rovi, Wade and 0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:31.280 Casey provided to people in this country. And so I 0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:36.240 am confused then about why there has been no coordinated 0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:42.080 strategy around how we were going to push back, Like 0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:45.399 why do why do democrats I guess right now to 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:49.480 me seemed so surprised, like why like why do people 0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:52.119 seem like they were caught off guard for something that 0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:56.440 has been argued and worked away at for the last 0:23:56.480 --> 0:24:00.480 fifty years. Well, it's a great question, Daniel, and I 0:24:00.520 --> 0:24:03.040 think there are a few reasons. First, I think that 0:24:03.119 --> 0:24:06.320 it is very hard for people to believe that something 0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:10.959 so fundamental, something that is so shaped the lives and 0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:16.080 futures of anyone who can get pregnant, women, transgender, gender 0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:19.800 nonconforming folks, anyone who has a uterus, anyone has a 0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:24.480 womb and changed our society. And so the idea that 0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:28.000 we could be at a place where this could be eliminated. 0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:30.560 We've got four generations of people who have come of 0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:35.840 age with the knowledge that they have at least some modicum. 0:24:35.920 --> 0:24:40.000 I mean, certainly it differs by race and by geography. 0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:43.160 It differs. We know that the restrictive laws have taken 0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:47.200 their greatest toll on black, Indigenous, Latin X other people 0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:52.080 of color, and young people and people in rural communities, 0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:55.880 so certain and people who are struggling to make ends meet. 0:24:56.160 --> 0:24:58.040 So we know that there have been people who have 0:24:58.119 --> 0:25:01.520 been denied access already because of all of these restrictions. 0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:04.320 But the idea that it could be literally banned and 0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:09.520 just gone in nearly half the States is shocking. I mean, 0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:12.280 it is hard to fathom that we could be at 0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:16.960 this place because it is so retrograde, and it is 0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:20.760 so contrary to what people really believe and need and 0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:23.880 have ordered their lives around. So I think it's partly 0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:26.640 the like it's hard to believe it until you see 0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:28.840 it in stark, black and white, like we did with 0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:31.879 the words on the page from Justice Alito. So I 0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:36.000 think that's one reason. But I will also say that, honestly, 0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:40.399 I think that while our opposition was very clear and 0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:44.520 very dedicated to take over a particular party, they took 0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:47.360 over the GOP. They made this a centerpiece of their 0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:52.080 of their base, they made the driving force. Frankly, I mean, 0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:54.719 you and I could spend weeks talking about how that 0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:58.680 was the latest manifestation of the ways and which racism 0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:02.399 and anti blackness and white supremacy have infused the anti 0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:05.280 abortion movement. Because the reality is they were losing on 0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:08.520 civil rights. They needed to pull the Dixiecrats. They wanted 0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:11.520 to pull Democrats from the from the Democratic Party in 0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:14.159 the South. So they were losing. They were losing the 0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:17.640 segregation battle, so they turned to the abortion battle. Um, 0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:20.600 you know, but look, opposition to abortion goes back to 0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:23.960 the mid eighteen hundreds when white gynecologists wanted to experiment 0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:27.240 on black bodies. So it's you know, it is part 0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:29.639 and parcel of that. So I think the challenge is 0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:34.679 you have this dedication to this singular drive, and the 0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:39.600 Democrats were squishy on this, were nervous about it, kept 0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:41.920 saying it was a loser when we knew it wasn't 0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:45.159 a loser, and just you know, hemmed and hard and 0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:48.440 big tent in our way, you know, blundering along. And 0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:52.880 that's why, you know, unfortunately, there wasn't we didn't have equivalency. 0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:57.639 We didn't have enough power politically willingness for the political 0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:00.880 power of the Democratic Party to be brought to bear 0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:03.920 on this. It was more like, we want, we want 0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:06.600 to have all comers. Well, the truth is this is now, 0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:10.920 unfortunately a purely partisan issue. It didn't start this way, 0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:14.000 but they have made it that way. Our opposition is 0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:16.399 made clear, it's a partisan issue. They have made it 0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:19.280 clear that you cannot be a Republican and be supportive 0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:23.080 of reproductive freedom. And so you know, we're kind of 0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:25.720 playing catch up in that in that regard. And I 0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:28.960 think it's unfortunate because I think that unwillingness to even 0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:31.080 say the word abortion. I mean, we finally had the 0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:33.719 President say the word abortion, but not very many times, 0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:37.359