1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Okay f Daily with 2 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody reporting from the Brooklyn Bunker 3 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: and frankly glad as hell that it is Friday. This 4 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: has been yet again another draining, goddamn week in this country. 5 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: That is the Titanic that I believe is sinking. I 6 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: actually don't believe that there is anything that can be 7 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: done to turn around the direction that this country is 8 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: headed in. You know, I yesterday, as many of you know, 9 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: Oklahoma has now banned abortion beginning at fertilization. This is 10 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: now the nation's strictest abortion law, and the governor is 11 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: going to sign it imediately. I want you to listen 12 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: to this from the New York Times. This bill subjects 13 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: abortion providers and anyone who aids or bets an abortion 14 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: to civil suits from private individuals. It would take effect 15 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: immediately if signed by Governor Kevin Stitt, a Republican who 16 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: has pledged to make his state the most anti abortion 17 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: state in the nation. There can be no higher or 18 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: more critical than the defense of innocent unborn life, says 19 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: State Representative Jim Olsen, a Republican in the Oklahoma House. 20 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: I want to say this. I'm so fucking sick and 21 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: tired of white men. I'm gonna say it. I am 22 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: so fucking sick and tired of conservative white men and 23 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: fucking moderate white men being the ones that get to 24 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: dictate the bodily automy the fucking movements of everybody else 25 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: in this goddamn country. I don't give a fuck about 26 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: your religious proclivities. I don't care what kind of sex 27 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: you want to have or not. You should not have 28 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: the ability to determine someone else's life outcomes that don't 29 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: fucking affect you. And what's amazing at this time that 30 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: all of these anti abortion pieces of legislation are passing 31 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: across the country is that we have a baby formula 32 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: shortage that everyone has been talking about, that the news 33 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: has been covering over and over again. But you know 34 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: what they're not doing making the connection between the fact 35 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: that Republicans actually don't give a fuck about babies. What 36 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: they care about is control, because if they gave a 37 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: shit about babies, and one hundred and ninety two members 38 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: of the House republic Party would not have voted against 39 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: providing emergency resources to mothers who are trying desperately to 40 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: feed their goddamned children. This is about control. This is 41 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: not about anybody's sanctity of life. Because if it was 42 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: about the sanctity of life, then you would have health 43 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: education in schools, right, that is comprehensive. You would fund 44 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: health clinics across the country to make sure that people 45 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: have access to the type of life saving screening and 46 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: reproductive care that allows them to actually have healthy babies. 47 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: You would support government agencies and systems that our tax 48 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: dollars fucking pay into, that you send across the fucking 49 00:03:53,560 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: world for war and death, but do nothing here to 50 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: preserve anyone sanctity of life that arrives outside of a 51 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: fucking uterus. I am so sick to death of Democrats 52 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: and their whining, their wimpiness with regard to what they 53 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: can't do because they don't have sixty votes. Figure out 54 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: your maneuvers, figure out the law you've had fifty years. 55 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: But now everybody wants to walk around in the Democratic 56 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: Party as if they're completely and totally fucking dumbstruck, like 57 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: they are caught off guard and just outdone. Oh my god, 58 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: I cannot believe Republicans did and are activating everything that 59 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: they've been telling us that they were going to do 60 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: and activate for the last fifty years. You will listen 61 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: to my guests today, Andrea Miller, who is the executive 62 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: director of the National Council for Reproductive Health that works 63 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: at the state and local level to ensure that women 64 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: and people with uteruses are able to receive the type 65 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: of care that they need. She'll talk about the fact 66 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: that thirteen hundred laws have been passed to a restrict 67 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: abortion since Roe v. Wade was passed, many of them 68 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: being signed on happily by Democrats. We have a president 69 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: of the United States that wasn't even able until recently 70 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: to even utter the word abortion, folks. Jeet Yellen recently 71 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: was in a hearing before Congress. She was in a 72 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: hearing that was about inflation, and she made the not 73 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: two right difficult to understand connection between our economic stability 74 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: in our country and the and the ability of women 75 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: to have an abortion. She said that our the health 76 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: and well being in our ability to compete on a 77 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: global level will be significantly impeded if women are removed 78 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: from the workforce. But you see, we know that Republicans 79 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: want to remove women from the workforce, and how do 80 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: we know that, Oh I don't know, because the Tucker 81 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: Carlson's of the world have talked about how you know, 82 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: feminism has gotten in the way of men being able 83 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: to be men, Because apparently a man, a white man 84 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: in particular, can only be a man if he is 85 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: subjugating women. Apparently a man can only be a man 86 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: so long as he has somebody in his life to 87 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: impose his fucking will on. That doesn't sound like a 88 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: man to me, that sounds like a fucking punk. And frankly, 89 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: I am again exhausted by Democrats and their inability to 90 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: just tell the fucking truth with passion and conviction. Stop 91 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: shaking and wagging your finger at people that are shameless, 92 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: start rolling out court cases, start using your goddamn subpoena power. 93 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: Maybe switch out your fucking whimp ass Attorney general, head 94 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: of the fucking Department of Justice, and get somebody in 95 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: there that actually has some skin in the goddamn game 96 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: and doesn't think that we have all the time in 97 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: the world to deal with our crumbling, rapidly crumbling democracy. 98 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: I don't get why people that are in power right 99 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: now do not have the same level of anger and 100 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: rage that I do because they have the power to 101 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: actually do something about it. All I can do with 102 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: the platform that I have, it's to be able to 103 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: raise awareness to people who are not in the know. 104 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: But I do not have the power to sign legislation 105 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: to whip votes, to whisper into the ear of the 106 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: president that I don't know what the fuck you are 107 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: paying attention to, but you all want to keep running 108 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: up the fucking money to Ukraine. Meanwhile, people are literally 109 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: starving in this country. People are literally needing to get 110 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: second jobs to be able to afford to put gas 111 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: in their goddamn tanks, and are having to rely on 112 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: food banks in their communities so that they can balance 113 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: the rising costs of everything. But the Senate has no 114 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: problem sending money for war that they pass without even 115 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: having any type of debate on it. But if that 116 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: same money we were to ask for that for support 117 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: of the American people, all American families, then my god, 118 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: we have to open up debate for two weeks, and 119 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: even that not a fucking thing will happen. The ways 120 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: in which we are expecting Americans to adapt to our 121 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: shrinking democracy is astounding. It is astounding. It is astounding 122 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: to me that gas is higher today than it was 123 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: on Monday. It is astounding to me that in the 124 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: quote unquote wealthiest nation, we can't produce baby formula. It 125 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: is astounding to me that, oh, gas is so expensive. 126 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: The price of oil is so expensive that every issue, 127 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: every problem that happens for industries and companies must then 128 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: be rolled over onto consumers. Meanwhile, the shareholders and CEOs 129 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: of said oil companies are bringing home tens of fucking 130 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: millions of dollars a fucking year. Oh now, it's the 131 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: price of d is going to be skyrocketing, and our 132 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: inability to be able to produce diesel, Oh, guess what 133 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: runs on diesel, dear friends, airplanes, trains, So guess what 134 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 1: is going to happen once again? That cost is going 135 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: to roll down and fall on the heads of the consumers. 136 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: And all the administration is going to do is wag 137 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: their finger and say, you know, oil CEO should do better, 138 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: but you don't actually create policies to demand that they 139 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: do and then hold them accountable when they don't. I 140 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: am sick to fucking death of this place. And you know, 141 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: it is becoming so evident with each and every interview 142 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: that I do with lawyers, with abortion providers, with activists, 143 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: with academics, with authors, that there is no turning this 144 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: ship around. So what does that mean for those of 145 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: us who have means? Does that mean that now is 146 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: the time to get the fuck out of this country 147 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: because otherwise we're all just rearranging the chairs on the 148 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: Titanic and just going down with the ship while Democrats 149 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: scream as it's sinking that like here you go, Republicans 150 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: will get you next election as they're fucking sinking, like 151 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: what are we all waiting around here? Four exactly? Just 152 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: a full on shootouts on the street, The fact that 153 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: we'll have buffalo massacres every week every day, that our 154 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: incarceol system is going to get ready to have a 155 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: new track of women of color and poor women that 156 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: they are going to run through the system so that 157 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: the women inmates that number will skyrocket for no other 158 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: reason than the fact that they were trying to have 159 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: autonomy over their own bodies but have now become criminals 160 00:11:55,240 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: who are aiding and abetting. The real fucking criminals in 161 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: this country is the Republican Party, And the actual real 162 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: fucking crime is Democrats inability to hold them accountable for 163 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: a fucking thing, whether it is a goddamn insurrection, whether 164 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: it is abortion laws, whether it is voting laws. I 165 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: cannot continue to sit around and just point one finger 166 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: squarely at Republicans who have told us from the beginning 167 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: who they are and what they care about, and who 168 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: they don't. I ask every day, I'm like, what is 169 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: Jamie Harrison doing at the DNC, What is Nancy Pelosi 170 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: doing as the head of the House, What is Chuck 171 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: Schumer doing as the head of the Senate? What are 172 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: these people doing? They're sitting around and they're giving interviews, 173 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: and they are offering no solutions whatsoever, no strategies, just 174 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: a bunch of what a bunch of votes on the 175 00:12:54,480 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: floor that don't actually mean anything. Our lives are changing 176 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: minute by minute by many and not for the fucking better, 177 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: and they're just going around as if it's business as usual. 178 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: I just I don't understand. And when I hear, if 179 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: I hear one more person talk to me about how 180 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: abortion and the loss of it is going to be 181 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 1: the galvanizing force for white women, like it's not. They 182 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: don't give a fuck. They will find a way to 183 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: get an abortion. They will go across states because they 184 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: have the economic resources to do so. They've never voted 185 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: in line with the Democratic Party because they vote with 186 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: their fucking husbands. So tell me who this is going 187 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: to galvanize, because black and brown people have already been galvanized, 188 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: because we're the ones who exist with the target on 189 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: our backs every single goddamn day, because we know that. 190 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: Ain't nobody come into fucking save us. So again, who 191 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: is this galvanizing? We are on a sinking ship this country. 192 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: Our democracy is fucking done. It is not about Oh 193 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: maybe it's not. We haven't entered our dystopian future yet. 194 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, look around. I just put in an order. 195 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: Let me tell you this, an order of things that 196 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: I order every three months from Amazon. Basic things, paper towels, 197 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: toilet paper, que tips, right, all of those basic fucking staples. 198 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: The price tag was about eighty dollars more then it 199 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: has cost the less several months eighty dollars more. Now 200 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: I can afford that right now. But if you add 201 00:14:55,040 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: another eighty dollars on top of that in another year 202 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: or in another couple of months, how is that going 203 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: to make sense? 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Folks, I, you know, all 225 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: I can say is that this has been a fucking 226 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: week and I need to do some real meditation, prayer, planting, 227 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: connection with friends and the universe, and staging some shit 228 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: out because every day I am feeling worse and that 229 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: is not good for my mental health. It is not 230 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: good for anybody's mental health, because I just don't I 231 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: don't see how we fight this. I really don't, and 232 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: particularly with a party that has absolutely no fight within it. 233 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: I'm just like they are literally hanging the rest of 234 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: us out to dry and just going to say sorry. 235 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: Coming up next, my conversation with the executive director of 236 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:38,479 Speaker 1: the National Institute for Reproductive Health, Andrea Miller. Folks, I 237 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: am very excited to welcome back. It's been a few years, 238 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: but to welcome back to woke a f daily Andrea Miller, 239 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: who is the executive director at NIRG, the National Institute 240 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: for Reproductive Health, which is the leading organization focused on 241 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: advancing protecting the needs of those that have uterus is 242 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: at the state and local level. Andrea I can't imagine 243 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: that you were sleeping. I can't imagine that anyone on 244 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,239 Speaker 1: your staff is sleeping. You have been the head of 245 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: this organization since two thousand and eleven, and I want 246 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: you to be able to tell us one your reaction 247 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: to the leaked decision, and then two how you were 248 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: looking at this landscape differently than you did eleven years 249 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: ago when you took the home. Well, it's great to 250 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: be back, and thank you for having me. It is 251 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: a hard time to sleep these days, there's no question 252 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: about that. I mean, look the Supreme Court draft opinion 253 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: that was leaked. I will say, of course I kept 254 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: saying I was, you know, using a lot of f 255 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: words that were keeping me going, but they were really 256 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: that I was furious and fired up because the reality 257 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: is I'm furious because of course we knew this was coming. 258 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: We have been saying that this is what is likely 259 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: to happen. We saw the Supreme Court get packed by 260 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 1: Trump with people part of their purpose in life has 261 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: been to get to this place and do this terrible, 262 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: dreadful thing that they are about to do in overturning 263 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: roversus Wade so not surprising but infuriating because it is 264 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: so contrary to the direction this country should be going in. 265 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: It's so contrary to the needs and the values and 266 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: the views of the majority in this country, and it 267 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: will be so harmful and so devastating for so many people. 268 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: Because we really are probably looking at, perhaps on day one, 269 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: you know, at least thirteen states with trigger laws that 270 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: say that they will ban abortion as soon as there 271 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: is no roversus wade, and those are criminal abortion bands 272 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: that punish people who provide care will probably be used 273 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: to punish people who try to get care. So it's 274 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: you know, and then you've got another dozen states or 275 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,479 Speaker 1: so that are ready to use their existing bands that 276 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: are enjoined right now because of row or pre O 277 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: bands to try to do the same, and so it's infuriating, 278 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: but it's also really like, Okay, this is the time, folks. 279 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:13,719 Speaker 1: We know this is happening, and we've seen so much response, 280 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: so much outpouring, and you know, we work, as you mentioned, Danielle, 281 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: we work at the state and local level all across 282 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: the country, and that means that we're in about half 283 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: the states every year. And I can tell you that 284 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: the number of requests from our partners, both current groups 285 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: that we're working with on the ground in the states, 286 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: and folks we've worked with in the past, and folks 287 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: we've never worked with, who are like, what can my 288 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: state do? What can my city do? What can I do? 289 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: And so I'm really fired up by that because I 290 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: think it means that we have real momentum going into 291 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: the elections this fall, and real momentum in getting creative 292 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: and really digging in and making sure that people who 293 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: have unses can get pregnant and need abortion care are 294 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: able to get it in whatever form we can get 295 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: at it for them. You know, let me asked about 296 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: the trajectory. Yeah, yeah, I wanted to tell me about 297 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: the trajectory. Yeah. Gods. So that's the interesting thing about 298 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: the trajectory is that certainly when I took the helm 299 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: here in twenty eleven, we had just had the twenty 300 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: ten Tea Party sweep, and so we were seeing the 301 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: wave of the beginnings of the real wave of extreme 302 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: restrictions on abortion care. But you know, it's important to 303 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: remember that since Rowe there have been thirteen hundred laws 304 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: against abortion passed at the state level. So there have 305 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: been waves and waves and waves of these kinds of 306 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: restrictive laws. But in the last you know, three to 307 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: five years, in particularly the last three years, I think 308 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: very much emboldened by Trump, the increase in the bands 309 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: and the willingness to figure out all kinds of really 310 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: heinous but innovative ways to try to work around the 311 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: lawsuits that have been successful in preventing the bands. We've 312 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: seen really that like intensity factor ratchet up significantly. And 313 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: I do believe that that is because of Trump's time 314 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: in the White House, because of the willingness to be 315 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: so stigmatizing, so harsh and horrible about people who need 316 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: to exercise their right to make decisions about their sexual 317 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: and reproductive lives. And that tenure, that tenor really has 318 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: infected what's happened in the States, And so I think 319 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: we've seen an increased ugliness to it. But I've always believed, 320 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: and I've always known, and our strategy has always been, 321 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: we've got to do the work at the state and 322 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: local level. Even if all you care about is Congress, 323 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: in the Supreme Court and the Presidency, you've got to 324 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: care about the states. That's where it all happened. You know. 325 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: The thing that I never understand andreat I and I 326 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: am kind of like dumbfounded by is We've had an 327 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: opposition to abortion and repro rights for fifty years, like 328 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: you have said, since Roe was passed in nineteen seventy four, 329 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: there have been thirteen hundred policies, pieces of legislation that 330 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: have been passed to chop away, not chip away, but 331 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: to chop away at the rights that Rovi, Wade and 332 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: Casey provided to people in this country. And so I 333 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: am confused then about why there has been no coordinated 334 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: strategy around how we were going to push back, Like 335 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: why do why do democrats I guess right now to 336 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: me seemed so surprised, like why like why do people 337 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: seem like they were caught off guard for something that 338 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: has been argued and worked away at for the last 339 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: fifty years. Well, it's a great question, Daniel, and I 340 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: think there are a few reasons. First, I think that 341 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: it is very hard for people to believe that something 342 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,959 Speaker 1: so fundamental, something that is so shaped the lives and 343 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: futures of anyone who can get pregnant, women, transgender, gender 344 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: nonconforming folks, anyone who has a uterus, anyone has a 345 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: womb and changed our society. And so the idea that 346 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: we could be at a place where this could be eliminated. 347 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: We've got four generations of people who have come of 348 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: age with the knowledge that they have at least some modicum. 349 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: I mean, certainly it differs by race and by geography. 350 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: It differs. We know that the restrictive laws have taken 351 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: their greatest toll on black, Indigenous, Latin X other people 352 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: of color, and young people and people in rural communities, 353 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: so certain and people who are struggling to make ends meet. 354 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: So we know that there have been people who have 355 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: been denied access already because of all of these restrictions. 356 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: But the idea that it could be literally banned and 357 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: just gone in nearly half the States is shocking. I mean, 358 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: it is hard to fathom that we could be at 359 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: this place because it is so retrograde, and it is 360 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: so contrary to what people really believe and need and 361 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: have ordered their lives around. So I think it's partly 362 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: the like it's hard to believe it until you see 363 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: it in stark, black and white, like we did with 364 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: the words on the page from Justice Alito. So I 365 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: think that's one reason. But I will also say that, honestly, 366 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: I think that while our opposition was very clear and 367 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: very dedicated to take over a particular party, they took 368 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 1: over the GOP. They made this a centerpiece of their 369 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: of their base, they made the driving force. Frankly, I mean, 370 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,719 Speaker 1: you and I could spend weeks talking about how that 371 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: was the latest manifestation of the ways and which racism 372 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: and anti blackness and white supremacy have infused the anti 373 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: abortion movement. Because the reality is they were losing on 374 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: civil rights. They needed to pull the Dixiecrats. They wanted 375 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: to pull Democrats from the from the Democratic Party in 376 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: the South. So they were losing. They were losing the 377 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 1: segregation battle, so they turned to the abortion battle. Um, 378 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: you know, but look, opposition to abortion goes back to 379 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: the mid eighteen hundreds when white gynecologists wanted to experiment 380 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: on black bodies. So it's you know, it is part 381 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: and parcel of that. So I think the challenge is 382 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 1: you have this dedication to this singular drive, and the 383 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: Democrats were squishy on this, were nervous about it, kept 384 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: saying it was a loser when we knew it wasn't 385 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: a loser, and just you know, hemmed and hard and 386 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: big tent in our way, you know, blundering along. And 387 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: that's why, you know, unfortunately, there wasn't we didn't have equivalency. 388 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: We didn't have enough power politically willingness for the political 389 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 1: power of the Democratic Party to be brought to bear 390 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: on this. It was more like, we want, we want 391 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: to have all comers. Well, the truth is this is now, 392 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: unfortunately a purely partisan issue. It didn't start this way, 393 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: but they have made it that way. Our opposition is 394 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: made clear, it's a partisan issue. They have made it 395 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: clear that you cannot be a Republican and be supportive 396 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: of reproductive freedom. And so you know, we're kind of 397 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: playing catch up in that in that regard. And I 398 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: think it's unfortunate because I think that unwillingness to even 399 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: say the word abortion. I mean, we finally had the 400 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,719 Speaker 1: President say the word abortion, but not very many times, 401 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: adds to the stigma and adds to the sense that like, 402 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: this isn't something that should be should be recognized as 403 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: the core element to our freedom and liberation that it is. 404 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: You know, one of the things that you said at 405 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: the beginning was that you think, and I've heard this before, 406 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: that folks believe that this will abortion now and the 407 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: loss of it in June when the decision is final, 408 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: When we see a final decision, that will be a 409 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: galvanizing force. My pushback to that for midterms is that 410 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: black and brown and bipoc people have consistently showed up 411 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: in the numbers, historic numbers that are necessary. So and 412 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: if that has always happened and has always been the way, 413 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: who do we think that this is actually going to 414 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: be galvanizing? Is it going to be galvanizing the fifty 415 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 1: three percent of white women that voted for Donald Trump 416 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: that then turned out in record numbers again to vote 417 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: for him in twenty twenty. I'm just I guess I'm 418 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: trying to understand who we think that this is galvanizing 419 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: because black and brown people have known what it has 420 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: already been like to live in a state, in a 421 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: place where row it has not been the law of 422 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: the land for many years, let alone the last fifty. No, 423 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, Danielle, and I think Look, black and 424 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: brown folks have been showing up, have been voting consistent, 425 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: have been clear about the importance of these issues, and 426 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: have been on the front lines of this even when 427 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: so many in their communities haven't been able to access 428 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: care and across the board, you know, I mean, all 429 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: you have to do is look at the black maternal 430 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: mortality rate and infant mortality rate, and you know, the 431 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: lack of access to abortion care, the High Amendment and 432 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: its denial of the ability of people who are eligible 433 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: on Medicaid or or have get their health services from 434 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: Indian Health Services. I mean, it is you know, the 435 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: list goes on and on. So you're absolutely right. Yeah, 436 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: I think that the reality is My hope is that 437 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: this will be part of that like reality check, that 438 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: wake up call to say, you know what, you've got 439 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: to start crossing party lines because those Republican white men 440 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: are not your friends, and you need to stop supporting them. 441 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: You need to stop, you know, propping them up and 442 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: thinking that you can throw your lot in with them 443 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: and that's going to be good for you, because it's 444 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: not good for you and it's not good for the country, 445 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: and you've got to figure out who you should really 446 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: be in solidarity with. So I'm hopeful we'll see some 447 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: people cross party lines, and predominantly, you know, whether we 448 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: like it or not, we need some of those folks 449 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: in the suburbs to turn out and turn out in droves, 450 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: because that's where some of these key districts are going 451 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: to be in when some of those swing districts are 452 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: So my hope is that it will be a wake 453 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: up call for some folks who have not voted on this, 454 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: and I think it may be a wake up call 455 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: for some folks who white folks who haven't necessarily been 456 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: voting but are like, oh, this maybe maybe matters. You know. 457 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: What do you think, you know in terms of how 458 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: like you mentioned, and I've said this on wokef many 459 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: times about this president not uttering the word abortion, about 460 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: Democrats in general being as you said, squishy on the issue, 461 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: hiding behind you know, moderate Democrats and basically voting like 462 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: Republicans on abortion, on reproductive health issues, and they've been 463 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: allowed to do so we are here, I find myself 464 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: at this moment not just because of Republicans being relentless 465 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: in their pursuit to repeal Roe v. Wade, but in 466 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: Democrats being apathetic to the fact that it was coming 467 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: because they've allowed all of these measures to be chipped 468 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: away at for the last fifty years. So what do 469 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: you think needs to happen in terms of the pivot 470 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: with the Democratic Party as a whole and our leaders 471 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: in the way that they are talking about this issue. 472 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: Because if it is to be a galvanizing force, then 473 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: what does that actually look like. That's such a great question. Look, 474 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: I think that the way that we've really been let 475 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: down on this is not only they won't talk about it, 476 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: but when they do, it's in isolation. It's with euphemisms, 477 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: it's like segmented out from other things. I mean, I 478 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: think what we need now is a full throated, aggressive 479 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: articulation of the fact that this is part of a 480 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: wider agenda that if you believe in economic security, if 481 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: you believe in maternal health and wellbeing, if you believe 482 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: in family stability, if you believe in wanting to see 483 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: our future look better than it is today, then this 484 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: is one of those core value issues. It isn't about 485 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: abortion per se. It's about who do you think should 486 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: have power and control over the fundamental decisions that so 487 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: shape our lives, that will so influence our communities, that 488 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: will so shape you know, our economic futures. I mean, 489 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: Janet Yellen was just talking about the you know, incredible 490 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: reduction of our GDP that could happen because of all 491 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: of these abortion bands. I mean, if you care about 492 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: our economic future, our community safety, you know, our families 493 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: being able to make ends meet, if you care about 494 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: the health and well being of anyone with a uterus, 495 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: then it's got to be a part of that. It 496 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: can't be like, oh, there's this thing over here called 497 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 1: abortion that now it's now, it's going to be and 498 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: that's bad and we're not happy about that, and you 499 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: should go out and vote about that. It needs to be. 500 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: This is about the values that we hold and the 501 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: belief that fundamental to your freedom in this country and 502 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,479 Speaker 1: your ability to shape your future is being able to 503 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: decide whether, when and with whom to have a child. 504 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: And you take that away and everything suffers, and everyone suffers. 505 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: It isn't just people who need abortions, although as my 506 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: dear ally and friend, Renee Bracy Sherman reminds us all 507 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: that everyone loves someone who's had an abortion, whether they 508 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: realize it or not, but it is everyone. You know, 509 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: everyone is going to be impacted, whether you're in a 510 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: state that bans it or in a state that is 511 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: like New York State, California, Illinois, Massachusetts where we're working 512 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: to expand access and build out the infrastructure. It's going 513 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: to impact that. It's going to mean the carceral system 514 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: is going to have this whole new avenue that it's 515 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: already playing with in really terrible ways. It's already experimenting 516 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,439 Speaker 1: with how to go after people who have miscarriages, who 517 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: have you been able to use medication abortion or otherwise 518 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: terminate their pregnancies on their own trusts in their communities 519 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: rather than you know, they have already shown us that 520 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: they want that pathway that's going to affect everyone, you know, 521 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: So I think it has to be really an embrace 522 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,439 Speaker 1: of what are we for, what do we believe in? 523 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: And how clearly this demonstrates the hypocrisy and just the 524 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: mean spiritedness, the lack of compassion of those in the 525 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: GOP who are driving this agenda because they do not 526 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: care about the health and wellbeing of families. And you know, 527 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: I mean there's so many great talking They voted again 528 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: to baby formula today they WoT exactly so, these are 529 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: people who are about forced birth, and I believe it 530 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: was a h In ninety two Republicans in the House 531 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: voted against that's right, How the defensive Production Act to 532 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: support people who are trying to feed their babies exactly. 533 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: I mean, there are so many examples. Mississippi, which is 534 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: the state at the heart of the current case before 535 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, is one of the few states that 536 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: refuses the federal government's incredible offer to extend Medicaid postpartum 537 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: from the minimal sixty days to twelve months. Because we 538 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: all know lots of issues, health issues for you know, 539 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 1: parents and for infants happen after sixty days, right and 540 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 1: if you care again. But but they don't want to 541 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: do that. They don't want to support childcare, they don't 542 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: want to support expanding access to healthcare. They you know, 543 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: the same states that are banning abortion of course, we 544 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: know are the same states trying to suppress voting. They're 545 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: the same states that are attacking you know, trans children. 546 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: I mean, the list goes on and on. So to me, 547 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: it needs to be a real full throated like this 548 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: is just if you want to make it about this 549 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: as a sort of singular entree point, say, this is 550 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: just the latest piece of powerful evidence that shows just 551 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 1: how out of not only out of touch, but how 552 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: uncaring unfeeling and with no compassion. They want to set 553 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: us on a course that will be economically, socially, culturally, 554 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: public health devastation for everybody. And that is not that 555 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: should not be our future. We can do better than that. 556 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: You know, last thing that I will ask Andrea is 557 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: you know you have been doing again this work for 558 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: the last eleven years and pay honestly, I've been doing 559 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: I was going to say, you've been doing it for 560 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,760 Speaker 1: the last eleven years at at Irah, But in your life, 561 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: this is your work. What are you where? Where are 562 00:36:55,680 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: you most fearful right now? Like what you know? And 563 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: where are you most fearful? And where do you see 564 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: some if any opportunity at this moment? So where most 565 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: fearful honestly is that it's just where people are going 566 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 1: to be so harmed. I mean, I'm just so afraid 567 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: of how much just trauma and drama and harm is 568 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: going to come from this, whether people are eight who 569 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 1: are in states where it's going to be banned, are 570 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: able to access abortion care or not, just what they're 571 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: going to have to go through to do it, and 572 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 1: what they're going to have to sacrifice and what they're 573 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: the hoops, they're gonna have the hurdles they're going to 574 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: have to jump over. You know, I fear for the 575 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: impact on maternal and infant health and wellbeing and mortality 576 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: and morbidity. I think that my hope is that we 577 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,760 Speaker 1: won't see scores and scores and scores of women dying 578 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,919 Speaker 1: from unsafe abortion like we saw before ROW, because thank 579 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: fully we have medication abortion now. But but will people 580 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,879 Speaker 1: be able to avail themselves of it? And if they do, 581 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: will they be able to avoid being prosecuted for it? 582 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 1: So what I fear is just the level of harm 583 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: that's going to be done to so many people, And 584 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: of course we know it will be disproportionate harm on black, Indigenous, 585 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: latinex Asian, American Pacific islanders, you know, people who people 586 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: of communities of color, people struggling to make ends meet. 587 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 1: I that just breaks my heart. That really breaks my heart. 588 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: The flip side as you ask what gives me hope? 589 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: What keeps me going? I mean, I am seeing and 590 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: our team is hearing from so many quarters, people who 591 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: are turning out in droves saying how can I help? 592 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 1: What can I do? And that includes elected officials and states. 593 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: I mean, I've been blown away by how quickly. I mean, 594 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: a lot of things were in the works for you know, months, 595 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: if not years, to try to get to the point 596 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: where we could get states to not only you know, 597 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 1: enshrine protections in their state law. Let's remember, before Row, 598 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: we only had four states really two on the mainland 599 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: that had legalized their abortion laws. We now have seventeen, 600 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: plus the District of Columbia, and there are more who 601 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: are looking to do it, and they are going beyond that. 602 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,760 Speaker 1: They are funding services at you know, exponentially, they are 603 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: covering abortion care for those who can't pay for it. 604 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: They are you know, funding practical supports. They're looking at 605 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: how to create greater safety measures so that people seeking 606 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: care and people providing it can do so in a safer, 607 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 1: safer environment. So I'm seeing that all across the country, 608 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: and we're hearing frankly from We're hearing from people, you know, 609 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: city councils and mayors and people working with them in 610 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 1: red states and blue states and purple states. I mean, 611 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: there's things that can be done at the local level 612 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: even if a state is really challenging, and we're seeing 613 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: that kind of innovation, just like ramp up, and similarly, 614 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: we're seeing states step up, and I think we're going 615 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 1: to keep seeing that, and I think the more people realize, 616 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 1: you know, obviously I wish that we weren't in this place, 617 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 1: but I am heartened to see that elected officials are 618 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 1: stepping up, that we're seeing people just in the community 619 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: stepping up. And there's so much people can do. There 620 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 1: really is. 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