WEBVTT - #127 Wrongful Conviction: False Confessions - Huwe Burton

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Wrongful Conviction, False Confessions. I'm Laura and I writer,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm Steve Drisen. Today we'll tell you the story

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<v Speaker 1>of Hugh Burton. In nineteen eighty nine, when he was

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen years old, he was charged with the murder of

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<v Speaker 1>his own mother at his family's home in the Bronx.

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<v Speaker 1>Forget blind justice. This is a classic case of tunnel

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<v Speaker 1>vision because even as Hugh was bulldozed into a false confession,

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<v Speaker 1>the real killer was living in the apartment just one

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<v Speaker 1>floor below.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was asked to look into Hugh Burton's case

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<v Speaker 2>by the Innocence Project, Laura and I were just beginning

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<v Speaker 2>the process of setting up the Center on Wrongful Convictions

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<v Speaker 2>of Youth, which was a project focus on false confessions

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<v Speaker 2>taken from young people.

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<v Speaker 1>Children and teenagers are between two and three times more

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<v Speaker 1>likely than adults to falsely confess, and we were seeing

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<v Speaker 1>a particularly disturbing pattern multiple cases of young people falsely

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<v Speaker 1>confessing to the murders of their own family members. When

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh's story came to us, it fit that pattern.

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<v Speaker 2>To a t. What is it that could make someone

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<v Speaker 2>confessed to the most horrific crime imaginable? The murderer of

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<v Speaker 2>a parent or a loved one.

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh's story begins in the Wakefield neighborhood of the Bronx,

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<v Speaker 1>a working class section of New York City that's home

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<v Speaker 1>to a thriving Jamaican American community. In nineteen eighty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>when our story starts, Hugh was sixteen years old and

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<v Speaker 1>in tenth grade. He was the only child of two

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<v Speaker 1>Jamaican immigrants, Kaziah and Raphael Burton. Kaziah was a nurse

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<v Speaker 1>and Raphael was a successful building contractor, so successful that

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<v Speaker 1>the family was able to buy real estate, a red

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<v Speaker 1>brick apartment building three stories tall on Eastchester Road. The

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<v Speaker 1>Burtons moved into the second floor and rented out the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the building. Hugh was a good kid, and

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<v Speaker 1>his parents were proud of him at sixteen. He was smart,

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<v Speaker 1>soft spoken, good looking. He did love the emerging rap scene,

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<v Speaker 1>and he'd cause his old school parents no end of

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<v Speaker 1>worry by hitting the dance clubs till closing time. But

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<v Speaker 1>the family was close, loving and prosperous. An American success story.

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<v Speaker 1>It's January third, nineteen eighty nine. Rafael Burton was out

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<v Speaker 1>of the country. He'd gone back to Jamaica to check

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<v Speaker 1>on relatives who'd been hit by Hurricane Gilbert a few

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<v Speaker 1>months earlier. It's a Tuesday, and Hugh gets home from

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<v Speaker 1>school at two thirty. No sign of his mom, but

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<v Speaker 1>he does notice that the TV's on his mom's car

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<v Speaker 1>is gone and her pocket book had been dumped out

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<v Speaker 1>on the living room floor, but Hugh doesn't think too

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<v Speaker 1>much about it. He had plans to hook up with

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<v Speaker 1>a girl after school, and off you went to her place.

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<v Speaker 1>At five point thirty, Hugh comes back home and makes

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<v Speaker 1>a horrible discovery. His mom, Kaziah, is lying on the

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<v Speaker 1>bed in the master bedroom. A telephone chord is wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>around her wrist and her underwear has been pulled down.

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<v Speaker 1>A serrated steak knife is lying next to her on

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<v Speaker 1>the bed, and there's a gaping knife wound in her neck.

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh called nine to one one in a panic and

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<v Speaker 1>tells them, I think my mother's been murdered. The police

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<v Speaker 1>arrive and pronounce Kaziah Burton dead. They soon conclude, though,

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<v Speaker 1>that she hasn't actually been raped. Instead, her underwear has

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<v Speaker 1>been pulled down to make it look like a rape.

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<v Speaker 1>The real motive seems to be robbery. The attacker made

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<v Speaker 1>off with her brand new nineteen eighty eight Honda Accord.

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<v Speaker 2>When the police came to the crime scene, they took

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<v Speaker 2>notice of a couple of things. One of the things

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<v Speaker 2>was that Hugh was sitting outside and to then he

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<v Speaker 2>appeared too calm, too cool, to collected. They had heard

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<v Speaker 2>his frantic nine one one call, and his lack of

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<v Speaker 2>emotion or apparent lack of emotion at the crime scene

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<v Speaker 2>was a red flag to them.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is a kid who had just come

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<v Speaker 1>across his mother's stabbed body, and he is panicking on

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<v Speaker 1>that nine one one call. But by the time the

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<v Speaker 1>police arrived, shock had set in, which they read as remorselessness.

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<v Speaker 1>So as the police are at the scene, they decide

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<v Speaker 1>to question Hugh about his mom's murder, and that evening

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<v Speaker 1>he agreed to go down with police to the forty

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<v Speaker 1>seventh Precinct for questioning. Even while his dad, who was

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<v Speaker 1>still in Jamaica, was catching the first flight back to

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<v Speaker 1>New York.

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<v Speaker 2>He had nothing to worry about. This is what he

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to do. He wanted to find out who had

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<v Speaker 2>killed his mother, and so he went down there to

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<v Speaker 2>do anything he could do to help the police find

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<v Speaker 2>and catch her killer.

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<v Speaker 1>The police questioned Hugh, and he gives them every detail

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<v Speaker 1>of his activities, from putting in a full day at

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<v Speaker 1>school to meeting up with a girl in the afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>right up until he discovered his mother's body in the evening.

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<v Speaker 1>After they finished questioning, he spends the night at his

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<v Speaker 1>godmother's house because his dad hasn't gotten back to.

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<v Speaker 3>New York yet.

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<v Speaker 1>The next day, Hugh returns to the precinct and the

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<v Speaker 1>same three detectives question him again for hours. Now, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a videotape of the whole interrogation. Police only

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<v Speaker 1>turned on the cameras at the end to capture Hugh's

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<v Speaker 1>final confession, but Hugh says he remembers what happened in

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<v Speaker 1>that room. Hugh says he confessed because of a threat.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember the girl whose house he'd gone to that afternoon, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>she was fourteen, and under New York law, Hugh was

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<v Speaker 1>potentially liable for statutory rape, even though they were consenting classmates.

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<v Speaker 1>The police told him he'd go down for murder plus

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<v Speaker 1>statutory rape and be sent to Write Island unless he confessed. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh didn't know exactly what statutory rape was, but he

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<v Speaker 1>knew the word rape was really bad, and he knew

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<v Speaker 1>well enough what Riker's Island was, a notorious New York

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<v Speaker 1>jail with a reputation for horrific violence. On the other hand,

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<v Speaker 1>the police told him that if he confessed, he would

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<v Speaker 1>go to family Court where his dad could pick him

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<v Speaker 1>up in a few days.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is a blatant lie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's total bullshit. The police also tell Hugh that they

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<v Speaker 1>talked to his teacher and her records didn't confirm that

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<v Speaker 1>he was at school during first period. How is that possible?

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<v Speaker 1>He knew he had been there all day, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was starting to be clear the detectives didn't believe him.

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<v Speaker 1>They were developing their own theory of Keziah's murder with

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh as the killer.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course the police said to Hugh, it was

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<v Speaker 2>an accident and everybody will see that it was an accident.

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<v Speaker 2>So your options are murder and statutory rape and Riker's

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<v Speaker 2>Island or admitting to an accident, being sent to family court,

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<v Speaker 2>and being picked up by your father within a few

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<v Speaker 2>hours of your first court appearance.

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<v Speaker 1>And over time, Hugh realized the only way for him

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of that room was to cop to

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<v Speaker 1>these charges. So by the early morning of January fifth,

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh Burton found himself signing a confession to the murder

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<v Speaker 1>of his own mother.

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<v Speaker 2>And let me tell you, this confession is weird.

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<v Speaker 1>It's written in stilted formal language, and the story it

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<v Speaker 1>tells is all about crack cocaine. I, Hugh Burton, know

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<v Speaker 1>an individual by the name of Bugs, who I owed

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred dollars to for some crack I received from

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<v Speaker 1>him to sell. Instead of selling the crack, I kept

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<v Speaker 1>it for my own personal use. The confession goes on

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<v Speaker 1>to describe Hugh getting high on crack the night before

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<v Speaker 1>his mom died. He comes home, gets into a quote

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<v Speaker 1>stat with his mother, and wakes up the next morning

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<v Speaker 1>still high.

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<v Speaker 4>This time stimulated on drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>Who uses the word stimulated? How you say I was high?

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<v Speaker 1>I walked to the kitchen, the confession continued.

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<v Speaker 4>I got a kitchen steak knife and I came back

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<v Speaker 4>into the room.

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<v Speaker 1>She then asked, are you going to kill me?

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<v Speaker 4>And I said and if I was, she went to

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<v Speaker 4>smack me and I moved.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when I accidentally stabbed my mother in her neck.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't planet purposely, you know, I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>scare a little bit, see what she was going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the confession, Hugh washes off the knife, leaves

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<v Speaker 1>it on the bed, and gives his mom's car to bugs.

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<v Speaker 2>This was no accident because iad Burton had been stabbed

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<v Speaker 2>twice in the neck, very deep, violent stab wounds. And

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<v Speaker 2>there were other parts of this confession that made no

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<v Speaker 2>sense whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 4>Got a call from person to old money too? And

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<v Speaker 4>who's that personal? Bugs? Do you know his name?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>You couldn't tell the police anything about books, who he was,

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<v Speaker 2>where he lived, or even what he did with the car.

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<v Speaker 4>Any telephone number that would have been help, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Back in the day, the Jamaican immigrant community didn't use

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<v Speaker 2>the banks a lot and used parents were no different.

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<v Speaker 2>They kept little pockets of cash and secret places throughout

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<v Speaker 2>their home, places that you, as a kid, knew about.

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<v Speaker 4>It was two hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Who gives a ten thousand dollars car to somebody to

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<v Speaker 2>settle a two hundred dollars debt? If you needed two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars, he could have found that money in a jiffy.

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<v Speaker 1>So none of this is making any sense. You also

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<v Speaker 1>was not known to use crack, much less run up

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<v Speaker 1>debts with dealers or behave in a sort of depraved

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<v Speaker 1>way that would lead a crack addict to attack his

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<v Speaker 1>own mom. He wasn't Hugh Burton, But it's the story

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<v Speaker 1>of the.

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<v Speaker 4>Confession school and I left.

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<v Speaker 1>So where did this whole crack theme come from? It

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<v Speaker 1>came from the late nineteen eighties culture of fear about

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<v Speaker 1>the New York City drug epidemic.

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<v Speaker 2>Between nineteen eighty six and nineteen ninety three. That time frame,

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<v Speaker 2>New York was averaging two thousand murders a year, and

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<v Speaker 2>police were attributing a significant percentage of them to crack cocaine.

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<v Speaker 2>And think about it from the police perspective. Here you

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<v Speaker 2>have a kid who's got no criminal background by all accounts.

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<v Speaker 2>He has a deep and abiding love for both of

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<v Speaker 2>his parents. He's a respectful kid when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>his parents, and all of a sudden, he snaps and

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<v Speaker 2>stabs his mother to death over two hundred dollars that

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<v Speaker 2>she would have gladly given him.

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<v Speaker 1>The crack theme came from the police, not from Hugh.

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<v Speaker 2>And there it is in the very first lines of

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<v Speaker 2>this confession that word once this story is about a

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<v Speaker 2>kid using cracker, selling crack. Nothing else matters.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's are off. Sure enough, Hugh is arrested and

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<v Speaker 1>the media headlines go for maximum shock value.

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<v Speaker 2>Crack craze teen stabs mom to death.

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh is charged with second degree murder, and he's sent

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<v Speaker 1>not to family court but to the place he feared most,

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<v Speaker 1>Riker's Island. Those promises the cops made to him were

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<v Speaker 1>nothing but lies.

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<v Speaker 2>From the minute that Hugh was charged with his offense,

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<v Speaker 2>his father knew that Hugh was innocent. He just knew it.

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<v Speaker 1>He knew his son, his whole family stood by him,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was too late. He'd confessed. From the depths

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<v Speaker 1>of his jail cell, Hugh writes a eulogy for his

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<v Speaker 1>mom and mails it to a relative so it can

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<v Speaker 1>be read out loud at her funeral, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>grieves alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's stop for one second, Laura. You know when the

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<v Speaker 2>police were questioning Hugh, they did what all police officers do.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know anybody, Hugh who might have wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>hurt your mother? Can you give us any leads as

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<v Speaker 2>to who might have done this? And Hugh came up blank.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, I don't know anybody who would want to

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<v Speaker 2>hurt my mother. But I think what you need to

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<v Speaker 2>be focused on is what happened to my mother's car.

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<v Speaker 2>The person who had taken my mother's car, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>person who probably killed her.

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<v Speaker 1>Fast forward to January eleventh, six days after Hugh confessed

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<v Speaker 1>and was arrested. On the evening of January eleventh, police

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<v Speaker 1>in Mount Vernon, New York, pull over a car for

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<v Speaker 1>running a stop sign. It turns out that car was

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<v Speaker 1>Kaziah Burton's missing nineteen eighty eight gray Honda Accord. So

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<v Speaker 1>who was the driver. Emmanuel Green was the first floor

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<v Speaker 1>tenant in the Burtons apartment building. He just moved in

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<v Speaker 1>there with his girlfriend Stacy. Emmanuel was twenty two years old,

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<v Speaker 1>five foot eleven, two hundred and thirty pounds.

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<v Speaker 2>You should see the body on this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He was cutting totally ripped. This guy could bench you, Steve.

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<v Speaker 1>And he wasn't exactly a choir boy. He'd done time

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<v Speaker 1>for a knife point rape and attempted robbery. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>Emmanuel Green was on parole at the time that Kaziah

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<v Speaker 1>was murdered, and only a month before he'd been arrested

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<v Speaker 1>for assaulting his previous landlord, Hugh.

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<v Speaker 2>Burton, only knew Immanuel Green in passing. Their lives were

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<v Speaker 2>in completely different places. Emmanuel Green was a bouncer at

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<v Speaker 2>a club who worked the late shift and slept during

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<v Speaker 2>the day, and Hugh was in school during the day

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<v Speaker 2>and at home most nights, and on the weekends if

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<v Speaker 2>he went out with his friend's clubbing, he went to

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<v Speaker 2>New Jersey, not where Emmanuel Green was. These were complete strangers.

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<v Speaker 1>After police catch Emmanuel in Kezi Burton's car, they bring

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<v Speaker 1>them in for questioning, and he's interrogated by the same

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<v Speaker 1>officers who questioned Hugh Burton. After only a few hours,

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<v Speaker 1>Emmanuel goes on videotape to make a statement of his own.

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<v Speaker 1>He says that on the morning of the murder January third,

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh had knocked on his door downstairs on the first

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<v Speaker 1>floor apartment, and Hugh had told Emmanuel that he planned

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<v Speaker 1>to steal his mom's nineteen eighty eight Honda Accord, and

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<v Speaker 1>he asked Emmanuel if he knew how to get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of a stolen car, I'll take care of my mother,

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh supposedly said, and the two of them agreed to

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<v Speaker 1>split the cash. Emmanuel claimed that Hugh then went back

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<v Speaker 1>upstairs by himself and all almost immediately. Emmanuel said, I

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<v Speaker 1>heard arguing, screaming in a thumping noise. He said he

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<v Speaker 1>overheard Hugh yelling you won't give me the money. Fuck

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<v Speaker 1>you bitch, I'll kill you and take it. A few

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<v Speaker 1>minutes later, he reappeared outside Green's apartments, supposedly distraught, and

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<v Speaker 1>he confesses to a manual. I killed my mother. I

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<v Speaker 1>stabbed her. I stabbed her. Emmanuel continues, my criminal mind

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<v Speaker 1>took over and I said, let's make it look like

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<v Speaker 1>a robbery. He claimed to have gone back upstairs with

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh to the Burton family apartment. They stole two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars from Kaziah's pocket book, and Emmanuel told Hugh to

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of the knife somewhere outside. Then Emmanuel took

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<v Speaker 1>off with Kaziah's car. So we have two statements, one

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<v Speaker 1>of them from a slick talking bouncer with a history

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<v Speaker 1>of rape and robbery and attacks on his landlords, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy who was actually found with Kaziah Burton's car, and

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<v Speaker 1>the other one from a sixteen year old with no

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<v Speaker 1>criminal history.

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<v Speaker 2>The train had already left the station for Hugh Burton

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<v Speaker 2>after his arrest. The detectives who were involved in the

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<v Speaker 2>interrogation leaked information about the case to the press, and

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<v Speaker 2>they were quoted widely in newspaper articles that grace the

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<v Speaker 2>front page of the New York Times and the Post

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<v Speaker 2>in the Daily News. And so when Emmanuel Green shows

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<v Speaker 2>up with Keziah Burton's car, these police officers needed to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out a way to reconcile these two very different stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember, h Was confession never mentions Immanuel Green his downstairs

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<v Speaker 1>neighbor at all, and Green's confession never mentions crack, cocaine

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<v Speaker 1>or any drug debt.

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<v Speaker 2>The confession of Emmanuel Green was cooked up in the

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<v Speaker 2>interrogation room in Mount Vernon by the same detectives who

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<v Speaker 2>took the confession of Hugh Burton.

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<v Speaker 1>So the case against Huburton plowed forward, and before too long,

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh found himself convicted of the murder of his own

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<v Speaker 1>mother and sentenced to life in prison. For his part,

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<v Speaker 1>Emmanuel Green was never charged with Keziah's murder. He was

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<v Speaker 1>only ever charged with crimes relating to the theft of

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<v Speaker 1>her automobile, but he was never convicted. Before his trial,

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<v Speaker 1>Emmanuel Green was stabbed to death as part of a

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<v Speaker 1>dispute arising out of a lover's triangle.

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<v Speaker 2>So when the case came across my desk, it was

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<v Speaker 2>sometime in two thousand and eight early two thousand and nine.

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<v Speaker 2>I was sent a letter from Hugh Burton and some

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<v Speaker 2>materials related to his case by a woman at the

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<v Speaker 2>Innocence Project.

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<v Speaker 1>At the Center on Wrongful Convictions, we get referred false

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<v Speaker 1>confession cases a lot, but when Steve looked at Hugh's case,

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<v Speaker 1>he realized it was different than a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>other cases we've told you about on this podcast. DNA

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<v Speaker 1>testing wasn't an option here.

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<v Speaker 2>There was no evidence left at the crime scene that

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<v Speaker 2>if ten could lead to a different outcome. It was

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<v Speaker 2>really all about the confession and all about trying to

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<v Speaker 2>prove the guilt of the true perpetrator and Manuel Green.

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<v Speaker 1>As soon as we took the case in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and nine, Hugh, thank goodness, was released on parole after

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<v Speaker 1>almost two decades behind bars. And this was a wonderful thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Having your client out is a blessing, even before they

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<v Speaker 2>are exonerated. We want to get them out because when

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<v Speaker 2>they're out they can help us with our investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's easier to represent someone who's free. You can call

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<v Speaker 1>them whenever you need to, and you can meet with

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<v Speaker 1>them face to face without glass or guards or prison

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<v Speaker 1>walls between the two of you. For his part, Hugh

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<v Speaker 1>was able to begin a new life on the outside.

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<v Speaker 1>He's always been a runner, but instead of doing laps

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<v Speaker 1>around the prison yard, he started running long distances in

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<v Speaker 1>the free air. And, as Hughes said his sites on

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<v Speaker 1>the New York City Marathon, his legal team embarked on

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<v Speaker 1>its own marathon investigation because even though Hugh was free,

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<v Speaker 1>he was still a convicted murderer who needed his name cleared.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve invited Laura Cohen, an attorney and professor at Rutgers University,

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<v Speaker 1>to join the team, and we got to work pretty soon.

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<v Speaker 1>We discovered powerful evidence of Hugh's innocence. Hugh had described

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<v Speaker 1>killing his mom with a serrated steak knife found on

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<v Speaker 1>the bed. That was the theory embraced by police at

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<v Speaker 1>the time of the interrogation, But after Hughes interrogation, the

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<v Speaker 1>autopsy showed that Keziah Burton had actually been stabbed with

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<v Speaker 1>a smooth edged blade. The steak knife wasn't the murder weapon.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that Hugh's confession incorporated an error that police

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<v Speaker 1>believed was true at the time. That's a red flag.

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<v Speaker 1>The police were feeding Hugh their own theory of the crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Emmanuel Green, on the other hand, had known that the

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<v Speaker 1>steak knife wasn't the murder weapon he described, using a

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<v Speaker 1>different blade, one that he told Hugh to dispose of outside.

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<v Speaker 1>This was information only the real perpetrator would know. Months

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<v Speaker 1>of investigation turned into years, and we were gathering evidence

0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:29.840
<v Speaker 1>slowly but surely, and then finally we got a couple

0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:33.640
<v Speaker 1>of lucky breaks. You see, in twenty sixteen, a new

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<v Speaker 1>DA got elected in the Bronx and we saw a

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<v Speaker 1>new opportunity to have a conversation about Hugh's case. So

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<v Speaker 1>we got in touch with our friends at the Innocence

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<v Speaker 1>Project in New York, Susan Friedman and Barry Sheck. Susan's

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<v Speaker 1>a rock star attorney at the Innocence Project, and Barry

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<v Speaker 1>co founded the project with Peter Neufeld. He's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the real ogs in the exoneration movement. And before long,

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<v Speaker 1>Barry was able to put us in touch with a

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<v Speaker 1>special new division of the Bronx DA's office, the Conviction

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<v Speaker 1>Integrity Unit. Here's very now.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the things that the Innocence Project and myself

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<v Speaker 3>in particular, had been involved in a lot is the

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<v Speaker 3>creation of what are known as conviction integrity units. The

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<v Speaker 3>whole point of a conviction integrity process is to have

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<v Speaker 3>a non adversarial search for the truth, where you set

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<v Speaker 3>up an investigative plan that both sides agree to go

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<v Speaker 3>forward with it, and you develop a process where you

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<v Speaker 3>share information and go back and forth. You just forget

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<v Speaker 3>about the legal technicalities and you just look at the

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<v Speaker 3>evidence and investigate it together and see where it leads.

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<v Speaker 2>And for the next three years we worked in collaboration

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<v Speaker 2>with the Conviction Review Unit. It was an extremely cooperative experience.

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<v Speaker 2>We shared documents, we interviewed witnesses together, brought in experts

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<v Speaker 2>to educate them about all of the changes that had

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<v Speaker 2>taken place with regard to false confessions and new understandings

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<v Speaker 2>from the science.

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<v Speaker 1>As we started working with the Bronx Conviction Integrity Unit,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when we really got lucky.

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<v Speaker 3>We'd all huddled at the offices of the Bronx Defender,

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<v Speaker 3>who were giving us a place to stay, and Steve

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<v Speaker 3>googled one last time for something about the officers involved

0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:28.040
<v Speaker 3>in his case.

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<v Speaker 2>Detectives who obtained false confessions are often serial offenders. I

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<v Speaker 2>typed in the names of these detectives in a search

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<v Speaker 2>for other cases, and I hit gold.

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<v Speaker 3>All of a sudden, he hit for whatever reason, we

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. An opinion that appeared in the New York

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<v Speaker 3>Law Journal by Judge Steve Barrett that was quite incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>What Steve found was shocking a court decision describing how

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<v Speaker 1>the same cops who interrogated Hugh had coerced a false

0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:03.879
<v Speaker 1>confession out of another man in a completely different case.

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<v Speaker 3>And by sheer chance, the evening before we're going in

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<v Speaker 3>to talk to the conviction Integrity unit, we found it.

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<v Speaker 2>Finding that these detectives had been involved in another false

0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:20.360
<v Speaker 2>confession just three months earlier than you. Burton's case began

0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:24.320
<v Speaker 2>to raise questions about who these detectives were and whether

0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:27.600
<v Speaker 2>we could trust their accounts of what happened in that

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<v Speaker 2>interrogation room.

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<v Speaker 3>In the end, this may not have all happened if

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<v Speaker 3>it weren't for Dennis Kossa's courage.

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<v Speaker 1>Dennis koss is the man who'd falsely confessed at the

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<v Speaker 1>hands of the same interrogators just three months before they

0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:44.920
<v Speaker 1>questioned Hugh. So Steve and Barry arranged a meeting with Dennis,

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<v Speaker 1>and the story he told them was heartbreaking.

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<v Speaker 3>We brought him in to our office at the Innocents

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<v Speaker 3>Project late at night and we began asking Dennis to

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<v Speaker 3>recount for us what happened when he gave this confession

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<v Speaker 3>and talk about post traumatic stress disorder. I am telling

0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:09.879
<v Speaker 3>you that this poor man went into almost a fugue state.

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<v Speaker 3>He began shaking and sweating when he described what happened

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<v Speaker 3>and how they scared the living hell out of him,

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<v Speaker 3>and they coerced him and they wouldn't let his family

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<v Speaker 3>come up, and it was unbelievable. I mean, you could

0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:28.119
<v Speaker 3>just see him reliving it, and he was just terrified

0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:31.000
<v Speaker 3>of these cops and what they did to him, same

0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:33.159
<v Speaker 3>cops that frame you Burton.

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<v Speaker 1>The investigation uncovered one other piece of evidence too. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>that teacher who said that Hugh wasn't in school the

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<v Speaker 1>morning his mom was killed, well the day before Emmanuel

0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:48.639
<v Speaker 1>Green was caught with Keziah Burton's car. That teacher told

0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:52.120
<v Speaker 1>the police that she'd made a mistake. Hugh actually had

0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:55.320
<v Speaker 1>been in school that morning, but it seems police never

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:57.760
<v Speaker 1>shared that information with Hugh's defense team.

0:24:58.200 --> 0:25:01.320
<v Speaker 2>So it's like a soup, right. You bring in new

0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:05.600
<v Speaker 2>evidence and at a certain point in time, you reach

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 2>a critical mass where it becomes clear that the person

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:13.479
<v Speaker 2>who was convicted of this crime was innocent. And in

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:18.080
<v Speaker 2>our case, it became clear that Emmanuel Green was guilty.

0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 1>The case against Hugh Burton should have fallen apart when

0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 1>the teacher retracted her mistake and the real killer was

0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:28.080
<v Speaker 1>caught with a car, But instead police doubled down on

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:32.399
<v Speaker 1>their case against Hugh. It took thirty more years until

0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:38.879
<v Speaker 1>that case finally disintegrated. In the end, the tipping point

0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 1>for the Bronx Conviction Integrity Unit was when Hugh came

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:45.320
<v Speaker 1>in for an interview and the prosecutors actually met.

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:49.360
<v Speaker 2>Him, And when they saw Hugh separated from that sixteen

0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:54.080
<v Speaker 2>year old on the videotape outside the heat of a trial,

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<v Speaker 2>in the tagline of a crack crazed team, When they

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<v Speaker 2>saw who he was and how much he loved and

0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:08.000
<v Speaker 2>respected and revered his parents, they knew that he couldn't

0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:13.879
<v Speaker 2>have committed this crime. When Hugh was in prison, he

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:18.639
<v Speaker 2>had developed a nickname. They called him wise. He had

0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 2>a sort of peacefulness that helped him survive in prison,

0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:27.119
<v Speaker 2>but also helped him to keep other inmates on track.

0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 2>And that wisdom, that decency, that aura of his innocence

0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:35.879
<v Speaker 2>is what really tipped the scales in his case.

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<v Speaker 1>When you meet Hugh, you just know this is a

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 1>good man. And these prosecutors saw that. They saw the

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<v Speaker 1>human being, not the accusation.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure you've realized this already, that you is quite

0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:53.639
<v Speaker 3>an extraordinary individual. But one of the Innocence Project conferences,

0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 3>he got up and he told the story that was

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<v Speaker 3>astonishing about his father. So you know his father. I

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:02.239
<v Speaker 3>always stood by you, and he would always come up

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 3>and visit him.

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<v Speaker 5>So the week leading up to the visit, I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 5>I couldn't wait to tell him everything that I've been doing,

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 5>how I've been developing with the case.

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to let.

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<v Speaker 5>Him know how good I had gotten with playing my Pimo,

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<v Speaker 5>and I wanted to hear everything that was going on

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:20.200
<v Speaker 5>with him. I finally spot him in the visit room

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:23.160
<v Speaker 5>and I make a b line towards him. We embraced,

0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 5>I hold him for a long time and we finally

0:27:25.600 --> 0:27:28.080
<v Speaker 5>sit down. He came with my cousin. She brought him up.

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:31.320
<v Speaker 5>As I'm asking him questions, I'm getting these kind of

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:36.399
<v Speaker 5>close ended answers, so everything was yes, no, and I realized,

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<v Speaker 5>I said something is wrong, and then he began to

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<v Speaker 5>refer to me as my brother. And I think that

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<v Speaker 5>was the first time that I realized that, because of

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<v Speaker 5>the Alzheimer's, my dad didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Who I was.

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<v Speaker 4>The guy who was in every courtroom, every visit.

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<v Speaker 5>Room, my guy. He didn't know who I was. But

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<v Speaker 5>still I was just glad he was there. So as

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<v Speaker 5>the as it went on, he wanted to smoke. He

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<v Speaker 5>wanted a cigarette, but I know he knew that if

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<v Speaker 5>he went out to smoke, that the visit was terminated.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't come in and out. It's not an in

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<v Speaker 4>and out policy.

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<v Speaker 5>But he kept asking for this cigarette, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 5>know why it was bothering me that he was asking

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<v Speaker 5>for it, But then I realized it reminded me of

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<v Speaker 5>a book that I had read, Man's Search for Meaning,

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<v Speaker 5>a book by Victor Frankel in which he details being

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<v Speaker 5>in concentration camps, and in the concentration camps, cigarettes were

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<v Speaker 5>a medium of exchange. So he would notice that when

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<v Speaker 5>people would smoke their cigarettes is when they had lost

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<v Speaker 5>the desire to live. And it's right in that moment

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<v Speaker 5>that I realized that he couldn't go on anymore. I

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<v Speaker 5>knew that when he left that visit room that day,

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<v Speaker 5>that was going to be the last day.

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<v Speaker 2>That I saw him, and it was.

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<v Speaker 5>Thankfully, however, I was exonerated this year January twenty fourth.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>And although he didn't live.

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<v Speaker 5>To see all of this come to fruition, I am

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<v Speaker 5>glad that he's watching and making sure that the job

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<v Speaker 5>was done and done good.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>In January twenty nineteen, a court finally threw out Huburton's conviction.

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<v Speaker 3>I vacated provision the culvers in Burton, and is a

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<v Speaker 3>trimedy that mister Burton's pension playing here in jail to require.

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<v Speaker 4>That A to cot from there.

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<v Speaker 3>For this, I offer my apologize, mister Burton, of the

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<v Speaker 3>heal of the Systom failed.

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<v Speaker 1>In the courtroom, seats were filled with other New Yorkers

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<v Speaker 1>who'd been failed by the system too, who'd also been

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<v Speaker 1>wrongly convicted as teenagers in false confession cases. They were

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<v Speaker 1>there in solidarity.

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<v Speaker 3>We brought in Usat Salam the Central Park five nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>eighty nine, Xener eighty five, we had in the front

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<v Speaker 3>row Jet Deskovic in Westchester gave a false confession to

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<v Speaker 3>murdering a high school classmen, Marty Tankliff. Again in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>eighty nine, co werced into confessing killing both of his parents,

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<v Speaker 3>and then, of course right there with them was Dennis Koss.

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<v Speaker 3>That tells you all you need to know.

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<v Speaker 1>It sure does. After a thirty year ordeal, Hugh joined

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<v Speaker 1>their ranks as an exonery and he stood up in

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<v Speaker 1>court and dedicated his exoneration to the memory of his mother.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the story of Huberton. Next week we'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you about Chris Tapp and Idaho man whose confession was

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<v Speaker 1>proven false thanks to the perseverance of an unlikely champion,

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<v Speaker 1>the victim's mother. Till then, thanks for listening to Wrongful Conviction,

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