1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 2: Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 3: Appreciate all of you. Thanksgiving Eve Eve. 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: I know many of you are hitting the roads all 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 2: over the country. Airports are going to be jammed. I'm 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: hopping a flight to Florida tonight with my two oldest boys. 8 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: Much of my family already down there. Cannot wait to 9 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: hang out with them. Reminder, we will have a live 10 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: show tomorrow with guest host Brent Winterboll, who's been a 11 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: part of the Rush family for a very long time, 12 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 2: and then there will be best of Thursday and Friday. 13 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: Joel Klatt joins us now Fox lead college football analysts. 14 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: Do you think there's actually a best of version of 15 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: this show? Or based on my past history, do you 16 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: question whether there's any good radio I've ever done? 17 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: Joel, Well, as long as there's like significant amount of Buck, 18 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure you sprinkled in something along the line, like 19 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: some sort of quip or joke, but Buck would likely 20 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: be the large, the large contingent of the best of. 21 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: Yes, I appreciate you being such a fan you are. 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if you're still at California where. 23 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: We get started on college football? Can I just give 24 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: your audience, which is, by the way, significant, So congratulations 25 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: to you because you've. 26 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: The largest anywhere in radio. Humbly, Yes, but yes, what 27 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: would you like to tell the audience? 28 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: You can't say, oh, largest ever and then humbly, But 29 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: that's I know your personality, so I get it. So 30 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: do you want to talk about, like eleven years ago, 31 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: the conversation that you and I had in the audience 32 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: battle room at Fox Sports. 33 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 2: Yes, you tell the people because I've talked about my 34 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 2: political evolution, but you and I for people who don't know, 35 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: Joel is and I hate to give him a compliment, 36 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: but the best person at calling college football games, I 37 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: think in the country. Right now, he will be calling 38 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: for all of you that are not huge college football fans. 39 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: Because Joel Buck had never been to a college football 40 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: game in his entire life. 41 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: He grew up in New York City and soil. 42 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: I took him to Ole Miss, Alabama, and can you 43 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:11,399 Speaker 2: imagine his cultural experience. Like you played quarterback in college football, 44 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: you're well versed in how awesome college football is. Buck 45 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: had never been to a game, had no idea college 46 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: football even existed as a big social event. 47 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure his mind was blown, totally, completely blown, because 48 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: it's the furthest thing from professional sports. Professional sports. Hey, 49 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: they're great, but they're very corporate, very coperate, And you 50 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: go to a college football game and it is the 51 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: most tribal, like, unique and organic type of sporting event 52 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: that you could find, certainly in this country. And I 53 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: think that from what I understand, it rivals kind of 54 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: like Premier League soccer style tribalism. So yes, yeah, I 55 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 1: bet that that was incredible. 56 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 3: Oh, he was blown away. 57 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: He was like, I had no idea that this entire 58 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: subculture existed, or Joel that everybody at the Alabama Old 59 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: Miss game loved him and agreed with almost everything he said. 60 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 2: You know, so he's in New York City, like voting 61 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: for Donald Trump and people are just like, I hate you, 62 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 2: you know, like, go to hell, what are you doing 63 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: in that reg red Maga hat? And then he's down 64 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: in Tuscaloosa and people are like, hey, do you want 65 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: to drink? 66 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 3: Pretty girls? 67 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: He was single at the time, walking around in sun dresses, 68 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: like everywhere, everybody's happy, joyful, and he's like this is 69 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: kind of a mate. Weather's perfect. He's like, this is unbelievable, 70 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: but that's background for Buck. I thought you should know. 71 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: So this is where Clay and I met as we 72 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: were doing a college football show on Fox Sports about 73 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: eleven years ago, when when Fox Sports Won first started 74 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: and Clay would fly out and we'd do a Saturday 75 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: morning show. So we got to sit and watch college 76 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: football and what we call the avocado room or like 77 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: a normal green room. And so I'm getting to know 78 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: Clay and he's getting to know me, and you know 79 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: you and I immediately, you know, click on college football, 80 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: and you're a contrarian. So we would argue about college 81 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: foot and then all of a sudden one day, you know, 82 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: we start getting into like social aspects and cultural aspects 83 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: and then politics, and you were just died in the wool. 84 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: You were like, oh, yeah, I'm a Democrat. And then 85 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,559 Speaker 1: you were explaining all your positions and I was like, hey, Clay, 86 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: like no, you're not You're a Republican. And you were like, 87 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: I am not a Republican. There's no way. I worked 88 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: for al Gore and you shouted at me like three 89 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: times I worked for al Gore and I remember telling 90 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: you at the time. I was like, Clay, you're a conservative, 91 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: you just don't even know it yet. And then here 92 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: we are. And so now every time I see you, 93 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: I just have a little bit of a smirk that 94 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: I feel like I was a small part in your 95 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: red pill. 96 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: I mean, in all honesty. 97 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: In twenty thirteen, when you and I started doing college 98 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: football together at Fox, the country hadn't gone totally and 99 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 2: completely insane. And I know you've got three boys her 100 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: self too, but like it's crazy. 101 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 3: I was. 102 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: I started off the show talking about, for instance, the 103 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: evolution of there's a lot of people out there that 104 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 2: are listening to us right now, Joel that are black, White, 105 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: Asian and Hispanic that voted for Barack Obama that were thinking, 106 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: like me, hey, I'm a Democrat. And then one day 107 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: you look around and people are like, hey, you know, 108 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: if you're a dude who wants to say that you're 109 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 2: a girl, you should be able to win a women's championship. 110 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: And you're like, what, and you have to believe that 111 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 2: in order to vote Democrat? Like it's kind of crazy. 112 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 2: What the test? The proxy became, right? It went from 113 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: you know, hey, what do you think the tax rate 114 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: should be to Hey, if you say you're a different 115 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 2: sex than you actually are, I have to acknowledge, believe it, 116 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 2: and actually award you a women's sports championship to be 117 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: a Democrat in good standing. And some people are just like, yeah, 118 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 2: that's that's a bridgeway too far. 119 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: Well clearly, and yeah that's wild. So that's how Clay 120 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: and I became friends. And it started. It started with 121 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: college football, and you know, and has has evolved now 122 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: outside of college football. I'm incredibly proud of you, buddy. 123 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: I know that I choke on that a little bit, 124 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: but you know, I am. You're doing a great job. 125 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. 126 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 2: By the way, Buck makes fun of me, but you 127 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: mentioned that we became friends initially because we're both big 128 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: college football fans. I naturally trust college football fans, regardless 129 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: of what team they root for, even Alabama fans, more 130 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: than I do people who are not college football fans. 131 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: I bet with what you do. You also have that 132 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: same feeling because there is some sort of innate foundational 133 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: connection there, even if you root for different teams. I 134 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 2: think that is more substantial than just college football fandom. 135 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 3: Do you feel that same way. 136 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: Okay, So I'll probably give myself in trouble for saying 137 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: it this way, but whatever, it's your show. So I 138 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: think that college football is one of the most American 139 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: things in our sporting world. It is totally and almost 140 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: completely void of the political influence that we've seen in 141 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: professional sports, and I think, having been around it my 142 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: whole life, there's a purity to college football that maybe 143 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: doesn't exist in other arenas of sport. And so because 144 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: of that, when I see or hear from, or talk 145 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: with or converse with people in our sport, around our 146 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: sport that love our sport, I know that there is 147 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: a genuine love of that and not some sort of 148 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: ulterior motive, if that makes sense. And I think that's 149 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: what I've kind of boiled it down to. I know 150 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: you say from a trust factor, but there's a love 151 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: of our sport that is just deeper than anything else, 152 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: and there's no other avenue that I feel like people 153 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: are trying to get there. And also, if you tell me, like, wow, 154 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of college football, well then I 155 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: assume that you're just like an academic, and I don't 156 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: trust academics at all. 157 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: We're talking to Joel Klatt. 158 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: Let me also dive into this with you, because I 159 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: don't think we talked about it much publicly, but you 160 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: and I fought super hard and you did it publicly, 161 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: which was actually rare for people in sports media to 162 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: have seasons played in sports during COVID. 163 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, why do you think that was so important? 164 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 2: And looking back on it now four years later, Hey, 165 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 2: by the way, you and I and everybody who fought 166 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: and said we can do this safely were one hundred 167 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: percent right, And it's amazing all those people who said 168 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 2: we couldn't do it, they just pretend that argument never happened. 169 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, it wasn't about football. It was about freedom, 170 00:08:55,720 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: and it was about the idea that something could be 171 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: told to us that didn't have to be proven, and 172 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: in many ways the way it was communicated to us 173 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: was false and under false pretense, and yet we had 174 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: to sit there and just take it. Because that's why 175 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: I pushed. It wasn't specifically for football or anything else 176 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: I was. I was pushing for I know it sounds 177 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: so stupid, but for freedom, Clay and for me. You know, this, 178 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: this idea that we were just going to with limited 179 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: knowledge give up was something I was not willing to do. 180 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: My dad thought in Vietnam. I knew the importance of 181 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: college football. I knew the importance of maintaining social perspective 182 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 1: in terms of trying to achieve a goal. I knew 183 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: how important college football was to the individuals playing it. 184 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: I knew how important college football was to the fans 185 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 1: that wanted to see it to the other sports. So, 186 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,719 Speaker 1: you see, here's the thing that people don't understand. It's 187 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: not just a college football game. That college football game 188 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: is supporting every single athlete at that university and within 189 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: that conference. So every opportunity given in an athletic endeavor 190 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: in college athletics is provided by college football. And if 191 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: we just decided that we were going to forego that, 192 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: we were impacting thousands of people that aren't even involved 193 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: in the sport. And for all of those reasons, I 194 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: was completely unwilling to be silent, and. 195 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 3: I'm glad you weren't. 196 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: And we won, and the season was played, and it 197 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: ended up a tremendous success. You are going to be 198 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: in Columbus, Ohio this weekend calling Michigan Ohio State. It's 199 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: going to be one of the most watched regular season 200 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 2: games of the year. For people who have never or 201 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: watched the big Game, why should they check it out? 202 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: And for people that are fired up to watch it, 203 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 2: what do you expect to see? 204 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: So this is the greatest rivalry that we have in 205 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: American sports, all due respect to everything else. Professional sports 206 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: doesn't touch this. And even in college football, even though 207 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: you think Tennessee, Florida is some sort of great rivalry, 208 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: it's not compared to Ohio State Michigan. This thing is like, 209 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: like it goes so deep and the traditions at both 210 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: of these schools, and what makes this iteration so interesting 211 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: to me is that Ohio State, which had owned the 212 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: rivalry for the better part of about twenty years, they've 213 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: gotten beat three straight years by Michigan. Michigan won the 214 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: national championship. And so there is this like deep hatred 215 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 1: between these schools and this idea that Ohio State, even 216 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: as successful as they are, they're the number two team 217 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: ranked in the country, they're ten to one, and even 218 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: though Michigan's not had a great season, there's this idea 219 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: that NUS nothing will make the season of success unless 220 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: they're able to beat Michigan. They have to do it, 221 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: and from that standpoint, it's just incredibly, incredibly interesting. I 222 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: expect Ohio State will play really well. They're one of 223 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: the best teams in the country. And Michigan would like 224 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: nothing more than to ruin the Buckeye season because of 225 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: the hatred that goes way back into the nineteen sixties 226 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: between Woody Hayes and Bo Shimbeckler. So these are things 227 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: that are so fascinating to me. And then you've got 228 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: all the aspects of the college Football Playoff. Those of 229 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: you listeners that are not super college football fans, here's 230 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: the deal. The College FOOTBA Playoff has expanded, has gone 231 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: to twelve teams, and there's been more interest now in 232 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: our sport than ever before. So, for instance, a team 233 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: like Tennessee Clays team is like firmly in the playoff, 234 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 1: and everything broke for them last week. A team like Indiana, 235 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: which has the most losses in college football history, they 236 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: get a new head coach this year, he brings in transfers, 237 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: and now they're ten and one and firmly in my eyes, 238 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: inside of the college football line. So our sport's never 239 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: been better. A team like Indiana can get back into 240 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: the mix of things. Tennessee is in the mix of things, 241 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: and from that standpoint, you know this week is going 242 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: to be very fun. 243 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,599 Speaker 2: Tonight is last question for you, and i'd encourage you 244 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 2: guys to go follow Joel Clatt at Joel Clatt on Twitter. 245 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: You can tell him thanks for coming on the program 246 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: here and maybe you give him tips for Big ten 247 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: towns because he goes everywhere now to call games, in 248 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: particular in the Big Ten. What do you think is 249 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: controversial in terms of the playoff committee tonight? Do you 250 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: think SMU is in? Do you think Miami does the 251 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: ACC get two? You said you think Indiana Tennessee are 252 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: comfortably in. 253 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 3: Where's that bubble? 254 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 2: Who are the teams inside and outside that you think 255 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: people need to pay attention to? 256 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's been a lot of talk about Indiana 257 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 1: because they haven't played necessarily a great schedule, But now 258 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: after playing Ohio State last week, they lost that game, 259 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: but now their strength of schedule is is significantly better 260 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: than what it was prior. So if you compare them 261 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: to like let's say in Miami or an SMU or 262 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: even a team like let's say Notre Dame, their strength 263 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: of schedule stacks up more favorably, and their loss is 264 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: much better than those other teams loss so Indiana. I 265 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: think on the outside, the narrative is that they would 266 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: be on the bubble. I don't think that they will be, 267 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: or nor should be. They're going to be firmly in. 268 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: The teams that I'm looking at from a bubble perspective 269 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: are teams like SMU Clemson, who's all of a sudden 270 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: after some early struggles, back in the mix of things. 271 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: And then the biggest question I'm going to have is 272 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: where do they put these three loss SEC teams, teams 273 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: like Alabama and Ole Miss. How far do they drop 274 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: them down after they took bad losses last weekend, Because 275 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: that'll tell us everything we need to know about the 276 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: number of teams the SEC gets in. And I can 277 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: tell you this because Clay, You're one of them. Those 278 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: Sea fans have been thinking themselves the whole time they're 279 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: going to get four or five teams in, and right 280 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: now it looks like maybe their max is three. 281 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 3: No doubt. 282 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 2: Joel, have fun, Tell your family Happy Thanksgiving. We appreciate 283 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: the time, and we'll talk to you again. 284 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, always great to chat with you. Proud of you man, 285 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: you're doing great. 286 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: Same to be said for you again. I encourage you, guys. 287 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: Go followed at Joel Klatt. Let him know you appreciate 288 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: him coming on. Sometimes you guys ask, and I've said 289 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 2: this before on the program, but what's something you can 290 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: do to grow the show? If you're on social media 291 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 2: and you enjoy a guest. We don't pay anybody. Nobody's 292 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: getting paid to come on this program at any point. 293 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: They're doing it because they want to come talk with you. Guys, 294 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: reach out social media. Agreed, disagree with whatever they say, 295 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: but let them know that you appreciate being able to 296 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: hear them on the program, regardless of who. 297 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 3: They may be. I got to tell you Thanksgivings coming up. 298 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 2: How many of you out there have great Thanksgiving memories 299 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 2: with your friends and family. 300 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: How many of you had. 301 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:57,239 Speaker 2: Old VHS tapes back in the day that aren't preserved 302 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 2: that you know that VHS tape is not designed to 303 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: last for a long time, those old camcode quarters. How 304 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 2: many of you even have VCRs anymore? Legacy Box can 305 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 2: digitize all those old family memories and make it egy 306 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: to share, really easy to share for you on a 307 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: digitized basis, right now you can get hooked up with 308 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 2: sixty five percent off their regular prices again Black Friday 309 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 2: Special Legacybox dot Com slash Clay sixty five percent off 310 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: right now, that's the Legacy Box dot Com slash Clay. 311 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 2: They got two hundred people hooking you up twenty different 312 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: types of old media they can convert to digital. 313 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 3: Legacy Box dot Com slash Clay. Hey, it's Buck Sexton 314 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 3: from our home to yours. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving from 315 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 3: the Clay and Buck Show. 316 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 2: Buck, We'll be back with me on Monday. Already with 317 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 2: his family having a fantastic time. I'm going to be 318 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: speaking at the New York Republican Club up in New 319 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 2: York City tonight. He's there with his family, So if 320 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: many of you are interested in that listening to us 321 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 2: on wor that is on the horizon as well. My 322 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: thanks to Joel Klatt, awesome guy, and many of you 323 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: are already reacting and talking to him on social media, and 324 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 2: I know a lot of you will be watching on 325 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: Saturday that Michigan Ohio State game. He's completely wrong, by 326 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: the way about it being the best rivalry in sports. 327 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: It's not even the best rivalry in college football, Alabama 328 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 2: Auburn is better, in my always humble opinion, than Michigan 329 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 2: Ohio State, Army Navy also, I think better. Do you 330 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 2: ever have the opportunity to go to either of those games? 331 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 2: I've been to Michigan Ohio State. It's great. 332 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 3: My wife is a Michigan alum. She's going to disagree 333 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 3: with me. 334 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: She's wrong unless she's listening, in which case she's one 335 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: hundred percent right and right about everything. When we come back, 336 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 2: we'll take some more of your calls, a lot of 337 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 2: you weighing in on being first time Trump voters, and 338 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 2: a lot of great reactions there. We'll hit some of 339 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: the emails, and I want to play a clip for 340 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 2: you about the declining power of traditional media and why 341 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: I think it's significant all that coming your way. In 342 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: the meantime, how about saving some money. I know a 343 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 2: lot of you out there it's holiday season. How many 344 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 2: of you look into those credit card bills saying we 345 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 2: spent what on what? Yeah, that's the way that I 346 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 2: sometimes react when I look at what my lovely wife 347 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 2: is spending on so many different holiday gifts out there, 348 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 2: among other things, what's the great line? The reason you 349 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 2: got your credit card stolen. Reason you didn't report it 350 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 2: because whoever got it spending less than your wife. 351 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 3: That's some truth there. 352 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 2: But if you're trying to save some money, you can 353 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 2: get hooked up with puretalk right now. Twenty five bucks 354 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: a month, does that sound good? Unlimited talk text five 355 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: gigs of data from pure talk. You can decide whether 356 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: you want to buy a new iPhone or a better 357 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: gift than maybe one of your friends or family, decide 358 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: that you think they need because you're saved money. Pure talk, 359 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 2: get hooked up. I use it for my family. You 360 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 2: can use it for your save a bundle. Pound two 361 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 2: five zero say Clay and Buck join pure talk today. 362 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 2: Pound two five zero say playing Buck a lot of 363 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 2: great interaction. Appreciate all of you reaching out to share 364 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 2: your stories. And look, I know a lot of you 365 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: have been longtime Trump voters. As we said, sixty two 366 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 2: million I think was the number in twenty sixteen, where 367 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 2: we're all the way up to north of seventy seven 368 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 2: million by the time we get to twenty twenty four. 369 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: So in eight years time Trump has added fifteen million voters, 370 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 2: and he added several million off of last year's number. 371 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 2: Some people flipping some people voting for the first time, 372 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 2: and you guys are weighing in and sharing I think 373 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 2: some really interesting stories. Let's take some more of these calls. 374 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: Kate in New Hampshire, what made you vote? 375 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? 376 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 3: What made you vote for the first time for Trump? 377 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 4: Well, it was a technicality for me. I wasn't able 378 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 4: to vote for him until I became a thatchalized citizen 379 00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 4: in May this year. 380 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 3: So where did you come to the United States from? 381 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 5: Originally from Sydney, Australia. 382 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 2: All right, So I was in Australia last year for 383 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 2: New Year's in Christmas. It was amazing. We had a 384 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 2: great time family trip. But Australia has gone super woke. 385 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: If you are voting for Trump here in the United States, 386 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 2: I'm guessing you don't agree with the direction that Australia 387 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: has gone. But what was it that appealed to you 388 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: about Trump? Because New Hampshire ended up super super close. 389 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 2: Trump almost flipped it. 390 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Well, I am in a law enforcement household. 391 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 5: I am quite a conservative myself, from a conservative family 392 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 5: in Australia, and it was only I've been over here 393 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 5: for six years now, that's how long the legal process 394 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 5: took for me, and you. 395 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 2: Should have walked across the southern border. You would have 396 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 2: been here way faster, no trouble, oh my. 397 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 5: Lord, and I would have been up in a hotel 398 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 5: and everything. 399 00:20:58,240 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 3: It would have been, Yeah, no doubt. 400 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 4: But every time I had to go back home to 401 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 4: sort of do some family things, I saw Australia change 402 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 4: in the societal sort of values and the way they 403 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 4: interacted with each other, and even the way they viewed 404 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 4: the rest of the world. 405 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: It just changed every year. 406 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 5: And COVID I think. 407 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 4: Broke broke brains in Australia and they're just so down 408 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 4: the left track. Now there are people withholding but it's 409 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 4: I come. 410 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 5: Back here and I go, oh my gosh, I'm free. 411 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 2: Thank you for calling in, Kate, and thank you. Thank 412 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 2: you for becoming an American citizen and sharing your story. 413 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: Thank you. 414 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 2: I was out to dinner in La last week with 415 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:51,239 Speaker 2: three Aussies and I gotta tell you it is a 416 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: cautionary tale of how pernicious and all encompassing the woke 417 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 2: mind virus can be. I don't know that I told 418 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 2: you guys this story. I can't remember because I was 419 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 2: over there Christmas in New Year's with my family. I've 420 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: always wanted to go to Australia. We had an amazing time, 421 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 2: met so many fantastic people. It's a beautiful country. But 422 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: two particular stories, because Kate just reminded me of them. 423 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 2: Before the Sydney Harbor fireworks New year celebration, they apologize 424 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: to all the indigenous people and I just remember sitting 425 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 2: there and my wife sitting there and us thinking, what 426 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 2: you're about to have a New Year's fireworks celebration in 427 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 2: this fabulous country which didn't exist at all as a 428 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 2: country until the late seventeen hundreds. I mean, it's basically 429 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 2: a brand new land in terms of the habitation, and 430 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 2: everybody who was living in Australia now has a way 431 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 2: better life than they ever would have been if the 432 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 2: rest of the world had not come and discovered their country. 433 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 2: That is, civilized world in the late what is it 434 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 2: eighteenth century? Right, They're all way better off and you're 435 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 2: apologizing before the fireworks display. And then we toured the 436 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 2: Sydney Bridge, the spectacular construction project. You can walk to 437 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 2: the very apex of it and look out over all 438 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 2: of Sydney Harbor. It's a beautiful place. We got up 439 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 2: to the top and the tour guide said, Hey, before 440 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 2: we really talk about any of the things that you're 441 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 2: going to be able to see from up here, we 442 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: just want all of you to understand that this is 443 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 2: stolen land and we're sorry for doing it. 444 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 3: I'm not making this up. 445 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 2: Both of these things happened basically back to back days, 446 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 2: and I thought to myself, how in the world is 447 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: a country that has so much in common with the 448 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: United States and so much cross pollination between Australia and 449 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: the United States. How have they fallen to such an 450 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: extent that one of their great tourist attractions when they're 451 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 2: showing the world the best face of Australia, whether it's 452 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: the fireworks display or the Sydney Bridge, that they're saying 453 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 2: as they're opening line, hey. 454 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 3: We're sorry for stealing your land. 455 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 2: And what might that be as a pathway for America 456 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 2: if we don't get our stuff in order. It was 457 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: a very cautionary moment for me. 458 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 3: And also. 459 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 2: I'm not surprised that OutKick, which I sold to Fox, 460 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 2: but our audience in Australia and England has skyrocketed because 461 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: I do think there's lots of reasonable people there that 462 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 2: are not being talked to by their media, because it's 463 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 2: even woker than our media. 464 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 3: That's my big picture. 465 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: English language analysis of what's going on in England, Australia 466 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 2: and it's connection to us and maybe why it should matter. 467 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: Robert in Louisiana, first time Trump voter and you've never 468 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: voted before and you're almost sixty years old, Yes, sir, 469 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 2: so first of all, I'm glad that you are voting. 470 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: You're the third different caller we've had today that is 471 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 2: not a young man. No offense, but not a young man. 472 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: It's like you're eighteen and saying, hey, I voted for 473 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 2: Trump for the first time. What made you finally decide 474 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 2: that you had to vote after nearly sixty years no 475 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: votes at. 476 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 6: All, last four years. 477 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 2: It was just so broken to you that you finally said, 478 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 2: I have to make my voice heard. 479 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 6: The field almost doubles in two years. You've got to 480 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 6: do something about it. 481 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: And had you had a strong opinion on Trump before 482 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 2: because you didn't go vote in sixteen or twenty what 483 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 2: was it just the failure of Biden that finally made 484 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 2: your voice heard or was there something else? 485 00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 6: It was pretty much Biden, Yeah, a Trump fan forever, 486 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 6: but they just broke the country. 487 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: It's got to be fixed. 488 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 6: My brother's hardcore Democrat, but never never Trumper. He voted 489 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 6: for Trump the selectional a selection. When you hear when 490 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 6: I heard he voted for Trump, I knew the res hope. 491 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 2: Thank you for the call, and thank you for voting 492 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 2: Robert and listening to how long you've been listening to 493 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 2: the program by the way. 494 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: Off and on for a while now, Well, thank you. 495 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 2: I hope we were a small part of you deciding 496 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 2: to vote for the first time. 497 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 3: Again. 498 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 2: This is three different guys who have called in if 499 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 2: I remember correctly, one in Arizona, one in Florida, one 500 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 2: in Louisiana, different parts of the country, all thirty or older, 501 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: who have never voted before. 502 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 3: I think that's super interesting. 503 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: And in San Antonio, appreciate you listening to us. What 504 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 2: made you decide to vote for Trump for the first time. 505 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 7: Well, I've been an independent all my life. 506 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: That's I was raised. 507 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 7: I voted from Nixon on through to Clinton and everything else, 508 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 7: and I support I voted for libertarian the first time 509 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 7: Trump brand I voted for Biden much as I didn't 510 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 7: you know it was it seemed like the logical choice 511 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 7: the second time, and this time it's a matter of. 512 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: I am. I voted for. 513 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 7: Policies, not personas, and the persona I found off putting, 514 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 7: but the policies were undeniably strong. 515 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 3: How long have you been listening to this program? 516 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 7: And I'm sorry, do what? 517 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 3: How long have you been listening to the program listening 518 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 3: to Bucking Me. 519 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 7: Since y'all took over? I mean, I go way back 520 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 7: with Rush? 521 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: Way Wait, you. 522 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 2: Listened to Rush, but you were not a Trump person 523 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 2: in sixteen or twenty But twenty twenty four you said, 524 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 2: I finally policy over persona. 525 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I vote that I vote the best outcome. 526 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 7: I did not vote for a winner for president until 527 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 7: Bill Clinton. One not my other vote ever was president. 528 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 7: I have voted Democrat, I have voted Republican, and I 529 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 7: voted independent and libertarian a number of times. 530 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 2: Well, thank you for sharing your story and thank you 531 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 2: for listening. We appreciate you. Alex in Kentucky, first time 532 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 2: Trump voter? Have you voted before? What changed your mind? 533 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 2: What made you get to the ballot box for Trump 534 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 2: this time? 535 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: Never voted before? 536 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 8: I was living in New Jersey in twenty sixteen and 537 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 8: twenty twenty and just felt like my vote wasn't going 538 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 8: to count anyway. And then COVID hit and it really 539 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 8: just pushed me. So I moved to Kentucky to get 540 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 8: away from the East coast. 541 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 2: And you were just so fired up about what they 542 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 2: did in terms of restricting freedom in states like New 543 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: Jersey that you said, I can't even live here anymore. 544 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 545 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 8: Actually, I started listening to you guys during COVID because 546 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 8: I felt like I couldn't get a straight answer from 547 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 8: the governor there. Murphy was doing these weekly conferences and 548 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 8: just lying to us. 549 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: My wife was one of the people that got. 550 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,719 Speaker 8: Forced into getting vaccinated, and that just really pushed me. 551 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, how do you like what part of Kentucky 552 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 2: are you in now, Louisville? How do you like living 553 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 2: in a red state? Even though, sorry Kentucky, you got 554 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 2: a moron for a governor who's still a Democrat. But 555 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 2: other than that, how do you like living in a 556 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 2: red state? 557 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 8: It's much better? But yes, I hate Andy shar I 558 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 8: can't believe we voted him. 559 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 3: Back in Yeah me either. 560 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 2: Hey, thank you for the call. Have a great Thanksgiving 561 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 2: great calls, By the way, keep phone lines open at 562 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 2: eight hundred and two two two eight A two. We're 563 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: taking calls today as we get ready for Thanksgiving. 564 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 3: Just from I'm thankful for a lot of new. 565 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 2: First time Trump voters, and I think a lot of 566 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 2: you out there who maybe big time Trump people voted 567 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: in sixteen and twenty four for Trump. 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Crocketcoffee dot com And this week you 612 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 2: get twenty five percent off subscriptions. Plus use code book 613 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,239 Speaker 2: and I'll hook you up with an autograph copy of 614 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 2: my book. They are being mailed out before the holiday 615 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 2: season officially gets here. Before Christmas gets here, you will 616 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 2: get yours. I wanted to play this. There is a 617 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 2: new show. It is called let Me make Sure I 618 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 2: get This right. Land Man about the oil industry, and 619 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 2: Billy Bob Thornton plays a Texas oil land sort of 620 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 2: organizer for lack of a better way, He kind of 621 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 2: handles all of the issues that might arise on an 622 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 2: oil field from. 623 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 3: A variety of perspectives. 624 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 2: And he had a monologue that has gone viral that 625 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 2: I think many of you, particularly those of you in 626 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 2: Texas or other states that work in the oil industry, 627 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 2: will deeply appreciate, but also anyone out there that just 628 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 2: thinks this climate change cult has lost its mind and 629 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 2: that many of the things they are telling everyone we 630 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 2: should be doing are actually nonsensical and lead to more 631 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 2: four fossil fuels. Listen to this, Billy Bob Thornton on 632 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: Land Man, it's gone viral. I think y'all are gonna 633 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 2: love it. 634 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:07,959 Speaker 3: Here it is. 635 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 9: We have one hundred and twenty year petroleum based infrastructure. 636 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 9: Our whole lives depend on it. And hell, it's in 637 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 9: everything that road we came in on the wheels on 638 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 9: ever car, every may including yours, sentennis rackets and lipstick 639 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 9: and refrigerators and antihistamines, pretty much anything plastic, your cell 640 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 9: phone case, artificial heart of it before we find it's replacement. 641 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 6: It's the thing that's gonna kill us all as a species. 642 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 9: The thing's gonna kill us all is running out before 643 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 9: we find an alternative. 644 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 2: All right, we might have accidentally had an f bomb 645 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 2: that just went out. Okay, we dumped it, so you 646 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 2: might have had a little bit of a little bit 647 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 2: of a change there. 648 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 3: Let me tell you, the. 649 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 2: Overall clip is really really good. We'll have it up 650 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 2: at clayanbuck dot com. But maybe for the holiday as 651 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 2: you gather your Thanksgiving family and friends around, maybe you 652 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 2: got somebody who's coming back from college that believes, Hey, 653 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 2: the world's gonna end. I can't have kids because I'm 654 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 2: so concerned about climate change and what's gonna happen. You're 655 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 2: gonna be fine, and maybe think about having kids. That 656 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 2: would be my advice to everybody. But that clip is fantastic. 657 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 2: Encourage you guys. Check it out. We'll post it up 658 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 2: at clayanbuck dot com. 659 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:28,720 Speaker 3: Again. 660 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 2: From the television show Landman, and that's Billy Bob Thornton, 661 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 2: great actor, by the way, in playing the lead role 662 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 2: in that. It's by the same guy who does Yellowstone. 663 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 2: Taylor share it and he's got a bunch of shows 664 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 2: out right now. But if you like Yellowstone, you may 665 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 2: like that one. I haven't watched a full episode yet, 666 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 2: but I did love that clip. 667 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 3: We come back. 668 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 2: We'll keep taking your calls, but I want to have 669 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 2: a discussion with you about something that I think is 670 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 2: really significant. In particular, it is the collapse of the 671 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 2: traditional media. Donald Trump wins the popular vote despite everyone 672 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 2: on MSNBC, CNN, Washington Post, New York Times, ABC, CBS, 673 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 2: NBC telling you. 674 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 3: That he's Hitler. 675 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 2: All of you out there decided that wasn't true, showed 676 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 2: up and voted for him in record numbers, and the 677 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 2: mainstream media is in a panic. What does the data 678 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 2: reflect and what in the world is going to happen 679 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 2: going forward. I've got a couple of ideas. I will 680 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 2: break all that down for you. Plus we're going to 681 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 2: be joined by Charlie Kirk. He's at turning point. He 682 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 2: had a tremendous role in ensuring that Trump won many 683 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 2: different battleground states, in particular with young male voters. We 684 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 2: will discuss that with him and more. Why did Arizona 685 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 2: of all states swing the most in Trump's direction in 686 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 2: the battleground He'll give you the feedback and the data 687 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 2: all that last hour next