1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I didn't come to stuff. 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: I never told your production of iHeart Radio and welcome 3 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: to another sub sub sub sub sub sub secument. I 4 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: like to add as many subs as I can. Fictional 5 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: Women around the World, And as promised, today, we're going 6 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: to discuss Nadia from the f X show What We 7 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: Do in the Shadows. I was gonna put a buffer 8 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: in between doing this one and Officer Leary from Wellington Impairnormal, 9 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: but I was like, how about the show just came out, 10 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: We're moving into fall, we're moving into the Spooki seasons, 11 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: so I wanted to go ahead and just do it, 12 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: Just do it, just do it. Yeah, and you can 13 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: see our last Fictional Women around the World episode on 14 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: Officer Leary and also, yes, my previous guest episode on 15 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: Movie Crush where I talked about the movie What We 16 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: Do in the Shadows, and yeah, the third season did 17 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: just come out. There's gonna be some brief, vague spoilers. 18 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: I don't imagine we're going to go into anything in death. 19 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: But if you're really like I don't want to be spoiled, 20 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: then come back later, come back later, all right, So 21 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: let's let's just start it off again. The twenty fourteen 22 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: movie was created by Taco Watiti and Jermaine Clement. And 23 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: I'm really having a hard time during the New Zealand 24 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: Jama Jamain. It's bad. I'm so sorry to those who 25 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: just heard that because of the show Flat of the Concord, Like, 26 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: I can't get it out of my head. But they 27 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: are both obviously involved with the show, which debuted in 28 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, and just like the other show, Willington Paranormal, 29 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: both delightful. It's a pretty similar format to the movie. 30 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: It's a mockumentary about vampires and Nandor last Low, Nija 31 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: and Colin and Nandor's familiar Guillermo, who was in Atlanta 32 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: just recently, as they navigate werewolves, zombies, a city council meetings, citizenships, family, 33 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: and the vampire Council. Yes, yes, I do have a 34 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: funny I mean it's not funny, but like a couple 35 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 1: of years ago, when I was at Dragon Con, I 36 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: addressed you were there. I addressed as Hiccup from How 37 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: to Train Your Dragon, which is a children's movie, and 38 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: we were at a party and this guy dressed as 39 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: Nandor from what we do in the shadows would not 40 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: leave me alone. And it was just like the dichotomy 41 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: of our costumes together and my friends being like, look, dude, 42 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: she's dressed as a children's character. You just back off 43 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: and he coughed and like left in a fury, and 44 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: it was very in character. But okay, today we're talking 45 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: about Najia um A Nadia of Anti Paxos played by 46 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: Natasia Demetrio Um, who is an over five hundred year 47 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: old vampire and kind of what we talked about was 48 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: Officer Leary. We even mentioned this at then that episode. 49 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: She is the most competent of the vampires. I guess 50 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: you could argue her and Colin are kind of in 51 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: their running, but of like the three non energy vampire vampires, 52 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: she's definitely number one. It's even a running joke on 53 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 1: the show that all these male vampires talk about is 54 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: their Dickson farts and what is she doing with her 55 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: life by staying with him? Several times she has to 56 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: bail them out. One of the biggest example I can 57 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: think of is when they all somehow get captured by 58 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: animal control and she has to go and like immediately 59 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: gets them out so easily She's fierce, violent, determined, and 60 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: loyal in the way that vampires are um because they 61 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: have different views on monogamy. I'll say she's quick to anger, vindictive, superstitious, 62 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: proud and wants more power, and she's very open about 63 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: her sexuality and desires. It's one thing I love about it. 64 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: Nadia grew up poor and her mother was eaten by 65 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: a bear when she was a child. When she was 66 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: turned into a vampire, she was cast out from her 67 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: family and her village. Many years later, she seduced the 68 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: Englishman Laslow cravens Worth and turned him into a vampire. 69 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: And they've been in a loving relationship ever since. And 70 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: I do I love their relationship and how in their 71 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: very vampire weird way, they're very committed to each other, 72 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: even though yes, monogamy is different in this vampire world, 73 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: but still they love each other. One of the interesting 74 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: things about her character is the relationship she has with 75 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: other women on the show. So for for example, in 76 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: the first season, she turns Jenna, who is this human 77 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: lark being assumed virgin. She turns Jenna into a vampire 78 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: because she kind of feels like Jenna is not getting 79 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: in respect. She deserves. She's being treated poorly by the 80 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 1: other dudes, and Naudia guides her into finding her power. 81 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: And a big part of that storyline too, is they 82 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: go to a frat party, Nadia like yelling at men 83 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: about not respecting her our Jenna, and it was very enjoying, 84 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: even though you feel weird when you're like, oh, she 85 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: just totally killed that guy. I haven't gotten to that 86 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: part yet. I'm slowly watching it. It's been a minute. 87 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: I tried to watch a while ago and I came 88 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: back to it, but yeah, I did just recently watch 89 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: the scene where she turns Jenna and the conversation like 90 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: she sees herself being treated poorly by men in the 91 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: past and so therefore and being the only woman in 92 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: a group of men, she needs to help her gain 93 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: her power find her way, which, by the way, I 94 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: don't know if you know this that I had to 95 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: explain this to my partner that is played by Beingie Feldstein, 96 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: who is Jonah hills sister who was I think she 97 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: wants something. Yeah, she wanted to award the book Smart 98 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: and now she's about to be in a huge Broadway play. 99 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, tiny character, giant actor. Yeah, she kind of 100 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: suddenly disappears from the show and you're like, uh, huh, 101 00:05:52,560 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: she got real faintous. There's also they play a lot 102 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: on the women hating women trope, so a bit later on, 103 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: I believe in the second season, we meet Lilith, who 104 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: is a witch who kidnaps Laslow and Nandora for their sperm, 105 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: and Lilith and Nandia were best friends until Lilis slept 106 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: with Laslow, and that was a moment where I'm like, 107 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, because Doddie is really she's generally very 108 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: even big, but she is kind of like equal opportunity vindictive. 109 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: But I think because we've seen that trope so many 110 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: times of like, oh you slept with my my man 111 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: and now we're fighting kind of thing, that I was like, 112 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: I don't know about this. I don't know about this storyline. 113 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: But I don't know if they heard that critique or 114 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: are maybe like they were just very aware of it 115 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: when they did it. But in the most recent episode 116 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: we meet Gail the where Wolf. Such a fun conversation 117 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: Gale Gail that we're with who is with is a 118 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: love interest of nandor on an awful love interest and 119 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: It's a running joke throughout that episode that Nadia like Scale, 120 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: and but she'll say something very minor like I'm afraid 121 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: Gale is gonna break Nandor's heart. And last it will 122 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: be like, oh you hate her, You've made your feelings 123 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: perfectly clear. Um, Like they all joke that she hates Gale. 124 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: She's the one that hates Gale, and she keeps us like, no, 125 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: I like her. But she even says like it's because 126 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: we're two women, right, like I had to make this 127 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: catfight between us. And then there is something else I 128 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: find interesting about her character is there's an episode where 129 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: they communicate with their ghosts as vampires because technically they're 130 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: human selves have died, so they summoned like their ghost 131 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: and they do their unfinished business um with a ghost. 132 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: Nadia's ghost is like, what are you do? You have 133 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: so much potential? What are you doing with your time? 134 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: Why are you hanging out with these Why are you 135 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: hang out with these dummies wasting your your eternal life? 136 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: But then they connect like there's the same and they 137 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: connect on such a close level that Naughtia gets the 138 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: ghost of her human self to possess. This really creepy 139 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: looking doll. And now she is a character on the show, 140 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: The Nadia Doll Um and they kind of get up 141 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: to shenaniganst together and when the dudes of the house 142 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: are being insufferable, they kind of they talk it out. 143 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: But that's another example I find of Like, it's just 144 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: interesting to me how many examples I can think of 145 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: of people loving themselves. Essentially, it is it is. I 146 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: can't wait till we talk about Loki. I've got a 147 00:08:55,559 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: lot of thoughts about it. Yeah, but also her, it 148 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: kind of feels like she just she really does want 149 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: more female companionship in her life. And there's several episodes 150 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: where she we get to see into her past and 151 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: and find out that she did have close women friends 152 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: and that she misses them, and um, her relationship with 153 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: her mother, which is really fascinating. I won't say it's healthy, 154 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: but she clearly cared about her mother. UM. So that 155 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: they're there, we just don't get to see them that much. 156 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: And I feel like the doll is sort of a 157 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: she's trying for to have this companionship and we'll see 158 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: where that goes. Now we've got Kristin Shawl kind of 159 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: involved in in there, so I don't know what's going 160 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: to happen with their relationship. And then another thing like 161 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: this is just something it's not only this show, but 162 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 1: for sure I've had like kind of moments of anxiety 163 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: around like she'll use these problematic sexist insults, and I 164 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: get because it's you know, they're vampires and they say 165 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: things very strangely in their accents are interesting, and it's 166 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: just supposed to be there out of touch, and they 167 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: are old and they haven't learned how to adapt to 168 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: her modern world in a lot of ways. But it 169 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: does come up a lot where they all say like, uh, 170 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: you know, are you soft like a girl? Or are 171 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: you put your all those those kinds of things, and 172 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: she'll say them, and so that's just something else that 173 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, I get, I get where you're coming from. 174 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: And she's definitely not like she's got a lot of issues. 175 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: She's violent and cruel in a lot of ways, but 176 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: also like tender and caring in a lot of ways. 177 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: That makes her an interesting character. But that has been 178 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 1: something else that's kind of given me pause around around that. 179 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. That being said, I adore this show. The 180 00:10:55,640 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: market handle episode thing of beauty and I really recommend it, 181 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: and I read a lot of articles about how because 182 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: this came out before Wellington's Paranormal and people were saying like, 183 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: this is what what we do in the Shadows really 184 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: needed was because the first one was pretty much as 185 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: has made the joke in the movie a sausage fest. 186 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: I was mostly just dudes. And how her character has 187 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: been so funny and interesting, and I love how open 188 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: she is about like her sexuality and her desires and wants, 189 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: and how she's so power hungry and not ashamed of 190 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,599 Speaker 1: it at all. So she Yeah, she's really she's a 191 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: good addition to it, and she's really interesting. Recommend delight. 192 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: It's a delight. Yes, it is. So that brings us 193 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: to the end of this sub sub sub sub sub 194 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 1: subsub god of fictional women around the world. But as 195 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: I always, we love getting your suggestions listeners. 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