WEBVTT - Confessions from an Evangelical 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:03.800 Native Lampod is a production of iHeart Radio in partnership 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:12.280 with Reason Choice Media. Welcome home, y'all. This is episode 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:16.239 one seventeen of Native Lampod, where we give you our 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:19.840 breakdown of all things politics and culture. I am your 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:23.360 host today, Bacari Sellers, and I'm joined by my co host, 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:26.720 none other than Angela Raie and Andrew Gillham. And I'm 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:29.319 excited to actually have a better host than both of 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:32.080 them joining us today. To a Mika Mollory, what's going. 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:36.239 On, Well, we'll take family. I'm so excited to be 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:37.520 here with you all. Thank you. 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:40.080 Welcome home, says we welcome home. This is going to 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:41.760 be the youngest looking woman in the. 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:45.800 Yeah, that's putting no respect on her name. 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:50.040 This is the incredible co host of TMI podcast. She's 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:53.680 a legendary activist, a best selling author, not of one, 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:56.680 but two books. She is our dear sister, friend and 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:59.760 comrade who's known forever. We're thrilled to have her join 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:02.800 us as a co host today, but is to South Carolina. 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:05.720 For me, I don't know was going to mention with 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:09.640 her two books that he also is a two times. 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:13.120 I was not going to do that. I only do 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:15.560 that to you and thank you for putting thank you 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:18.200 for putting some respect on that. I also think that 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:20.000 sometimes like the work that you do speak for you. 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:23.880 There's no doubt that Tamika is a heroine of our day. 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:25.640 And we appreciate all the. 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:29.840 Work that you do, and so you for sure, and 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:32.000 especially my sister, you know how much I love you. 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:35.639 I work for Angela Rye regularly, just so everyone knows 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:36.160 y'all work. 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:44.320 I just I'm so grateful that you all feel called. 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:52.120 Yes, passion, You're grateful, grateful you call us off. Look, Tomika, 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.280 we still we're still smoothing this out, but we actually 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:55.760 had this new part of our show that we love. 0:01:56.120 --> 0:02:01.280 It's called for your Situational Awareness y F y A. 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:03.920 I've been messing up the acronym for a long period 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:07.360 of time, but we like to run down. It's n 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:09.720 s f W not safe for work. That's what I 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:12.280 call it. I don't know these acronyms be bothering me, 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:13.040 but that's. 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:16.480 How you know, be up to no good, not safe 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:16.919 for work. 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:21.000 That's how No, that's not how you catch the case. 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:23.239 But sometimes when you're watching something in a little virus 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:25.360 screen pop up. I don't care about that virus. Go ahead, 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:31.240 they can watch it with me anyway. Oh, anyway, we're 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:34.320 gonna get started because this past weekend we had the Grammys. 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:36.760 I think everybody watched the Grammys. The Grammys were so dope. 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:39.680 It was represented with diversity. We needed it. Our good 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.240 friend Jelly Roll actually won some Grammys and was. 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:44.679 Damn good friend. 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:46.960 I mean during the South, we say our good I mean, 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:47.680 first of all, he. 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:51.760 Did the reverse in the South. Whatever you say, they mean. 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:57.200 Yeah, bless your bless your heart, bless you, bless y'all. 0:02:57.600 --> 0:02:59.680 But he was up the Bible thump in Jesus, Jesus, 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:02.520 Jesus in his acceptance speech, and then they asked him 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:04.480 a question about ice, and he forgot all about Jesus. 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:05.240 We were all the class. 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:06.160 Yeah. 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:07.840 I know they're gonna try to kick me off here, 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:10.000 so just let me try to get this out. First 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.400 of all, Jesus, I hear you, and I'm listening, Lord, 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:16.320 I am listening Lord. Second of all, I want to 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:18.120 thank my beautiful wife. I would have never changed my 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:19.799 life without you. I'd ended up dead or in jail. 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:21.880 I'd have killed myself if it wasn't for you and Jesus. 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:24.280 I thank you for that. I thank you for my label. 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:26.400 Broken Boat a country radio. 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:26.840 Baby. 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:27.760 What's up y'all? 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:30.240 All Republic John and Neely, we did it. 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:30.560 Baby. 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:34.120 There was a time in my life y'all that I 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:37.200 was I was broken. That's why I wrote this album. 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:38.760 I didn't think I had a chance, y'all. There was 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:40.560 days that I thought the darkest things. I was a 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:42.600 horrible human. There was a moment in my life that 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:44.320 all I had was a Bible this big in a 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:46.720 radio the same size, and a six by eight foot 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:49.480 sell And I believe that those two things could change 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:51.840 my life. I believe that music had the power to 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.400 change my life, and God had the power to change 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:54.880 my life. 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:55.440 And I want to. 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:58.840 Tell y'all right now, Jesus is for everybody. Jesus is 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:02.360 not on by one political party. Jesus is not owned 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:06.040 by no music label. Jesus is Jesus, and anybody can 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:07.400 have a relationship with him. 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:08.480 I love you, Lord. 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:11.560 And so that was the Bible thumping on stage. It 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:13.120 was a lot of Jesus, and I was with him. 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:15.680 I clap, you know. I like to be sanctified every 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:17.800 now and then, but this was him afterwards talking about 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:18.280 ice right. 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:21.120 Every now and then, you're so judgment I can tell 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:23.159 you that people shouldn't care to hear my opinion. Man, 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:25.320 you know, I'm a dumb redneck. I haven't watched enough. 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:27.400 I didn't have a phone for eighteen months. I've had 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:30.000 one for four months and don't have social media. I 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:32.480 hate to be the artist in static aloof but I 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:35.600 just I've come so disconnected from what's happening, and I'm 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:38.760 just not a I grew up in a house of 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:42.919 like insane pandemonium and like like I didn't even know 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:45.560 politics were fucking real until I was in my mid 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:48.920 twenties in jail. Like that's how disconnected when you grow 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:51.039 up in a drug addict household. You think we like 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:55.039 have common calls about what's happening in world politics, Like 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:57.080 we're just trying to find a way to survive. Man, 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:59.880 you know, And I have a lot to say about it. 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.000 I'm going to in the next week and everybody's gonna 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:03.680 hear exactly what I have to say about it in 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:05.479 the most loud and clear way I've ever spoke in 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:08.120 my life. So I look forward to it. Thank you 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:08.880 for bringing it up. 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:11.320 What was the question to him. 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:13.880 Comment about Ice. 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:17.200 They asked about Ice and ice attention and what he's 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.080 seeing in the streets, and that was his response. 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:23.159 Can I just say his was jelly rolling. He was 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:29.600 yelling all around, here's my thing. 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:33.600 I just don't understand how he's like, I only had 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:34.880 a fall for four months. 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:35.320 Friends. 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:39.520 In the last four months, Ice has wage war on 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:40.200 this country. 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:42.479 So you should absolutely. 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:43.080 Know what's good in. 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:46.120 Minnesota and in Tennessee. They in Tennessee. 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:48.960 This dude lives in Tennessee with Bunny Hopper, his wife 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:50.080 or whatever her name is. 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:51.320 So he ought to know. 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:54.760 He ought to know what's happening with Ice, and he 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:57.840 ought to know something about it since he probably since 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:00.320 he said he was in detention, he should know what 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:02.119 he should know what it means to have your rights 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:03.360 protected or violated. 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:05.840 He should have a thought. He does know. He does 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:11.120 know for sure, So he said, clears a lot he lies. 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:17.560 And furthermore, he's in pictures and videos with Trump and 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.839 MAGA stuff, and like they have now exposed him on 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.839 social media that he's actually hanging out with these folks. 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:27.080 So his phone was working somehow. 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:30.599 To get him these other events that he went to 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:32.120 so cut it, cut it. 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:33.039 He was jelly rolling. 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:36.400 He was he was, he was jelly rolling. I'm actually 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:38.200 a jelly row fan. I listened to him while I run. 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:39.960 I love his music, and I actually go back to 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:40.480 jelly roll. 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:43.560 We just started a boy off. 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:49.200 He used to he used to, He used to wrap. 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.360 He started out wrapping with three six months in them. 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:54.960 Now they check them stats in Tennessee. We're gonna We're 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:57.400 gonna move right along to the Secretary of War, Secretary 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.440 of Defense, whatever y'all want to call him. And this 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:04.240 is a unique thing because it ties into the movie Milania. Yeah, 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:08.480 oh yeah, yeah, last yeah, last week Keg's breath, but 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:12.640 Pete's head's gaff actually met with he actually I can't 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:14.360 even say, it don't matter to mean And the black 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:16.240 guy had to be overly qualified and he had to 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:19.920 be Pete. So yeah, so anyway, then you know, we 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:23.720 know Jeff Bezos spent seventy million dollars on Milania to 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:26.040 buy the rights and to advertise it, and then all 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:30.480 of a sudden, the next week, Blue Origin, Jeff Bezos, 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.560 Pete Hesgeth are having a meeting about defense contracts. Take 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:37.160 a look at this clip Jerry, it's so much reportant. 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:37.920 It's great to see you. 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:38.800 Are you doing all right? 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:42.680 Well, Dave Limm, Jeff, thank you for being here. 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:46.200 I appreciate it. Welcome. The grift continues. What do y'all 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.600 think about Milania and watching this grift play out in 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:49.080 real life? 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:52.600 Well, first, first, let's just acknowledge what happened. 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:56.760 Pete Haig Seth and Jeff Bezos are shaking hands, They're 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:57.800 greeting one another. 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.720 It's looking real friendly and like. 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:02.320 At at Bezos's. 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:06.480 It's at Blue Origin. It's at Bezos in California, in California. Yeah, 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:08.720 it's at Blue Origin. And the cop purpose of the 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:11.520 conversation was to talk about Blue Origins defense contracts with 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:13.360 the United States military and others. 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:18.680 I think that the point here is that we have 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:22.120 to understand whether or not him paying so much money 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:27.600 for a documentary that only made seven million dollars, Right, 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:29.320 seven million dollars. 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:32.600 It's debut week, and it cost how much. 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:36.520 Makari they paid for They paid forty for the rights 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:39.720 directly to Milania, which are a lot for documentary rights, 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.040 and then they paid thirty five million for marketing. 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:46.120 Yes, so that's a whopping seventy five million dollars and 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:48.440 it got back seven million as. 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:52.120 The market only on truth Social Well. 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:54.959 I mean Amazon was responsible for marketing, not Donald Trump. 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:57.400 So you're just saying what they spent. 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:00.720 Apparently, though, let me say this now, they did buy 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:03.200 a lot of seats. They bought seats in bulk, and 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:05.520 it is this is a weird thing. But it's the 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:10.720 highest selling opening weekend for documentary in ten years. But 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:12.959 it's still only sold seven million dollars. 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:16.400 Well, how many documentaries have a seventy five million dollar 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:19.960 price tag, so it's not really apples apples one two. 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:23.160 I think the point here for those who might be 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:27.080 having a slower day is that they may have spent 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:30.520 seventy five million dollars as an investment into Blue Origin. 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:32.720 I think one other thing that was brought to our attention, 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:35.439 and I should have pulled this headline for you, Nick, 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:39.200 but I didn't. Washington Posts, in the midst of this 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:42.600 seventy five million dollar Amazon spend just laid off their 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.280 entire sports department. 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:47.120 They just laid off. 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:48.880 I have a friend of mine who was laid off 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:52.240 from Amazon just a couple of days ago. So Amazon 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:56.640 has money to spend on Milanya, but they don't have 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.320 money to spend on keeping their employees or at the 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:02.000 Washington Post, which as you all know, hopefully Jeff Bezos 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:02.520 now owns. 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.640 And keep in mind that there have been issues with 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:09.280 Amazon even before this, labor issues that have been going 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:11.599 on for a long time. And you know, at some 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.719 point we've got to unravel ourselves from these companies that 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:18.120 just don't respect our communities, you know, and I know 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:21.480 Amazon is a hard one because everybody is into convenience. 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:23.760 But nevertheless, such as we've done. 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:26.760 Target, we have to show these CEOs and these companies 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:29.040 that we're not just gonna let you take our money 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:31.880 and then mistreat our communities and our people on the 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:33.680 backside or on the front side. 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:37.360 Really yeah, yeah, you know, to me, God, we didn't 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:39.719 acknowledge it, the leadership you've taken and help you move 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:43.480 our community away from dependency on you know, on Target 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:48.600 accepting of course Bacari, the online ordering of your wife's line. Right. 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:52.400 But the truth is is for those of us who 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:55.800 may draw conclusion, and it's because of the loss of money, 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:57.920 the you know, the you know, just sort of bleeding 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:00.640 money away from from companies. This man, the wealthiest in 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:02.200 the world. He could probably keep every one of these 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:04.640 enterprises going. All two hundred of those employees at the 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.520 Washington Post had just got the notice, the fact that 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:11.400 he just set, you know, close nearly seventy brick and 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:16.040 mortar stores, these Amazon stops and Amazon stores around the 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:19.680 country and only announced it last month. At the end 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:22.640 of last month, these people lost their jobs February one, 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:26.200 the start of Black History Month. So no notice, no respect, 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.920 no respect for workers' rights, no concern for what happens 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:33.920 to regular, everyday people who are slaving for him to 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:37.800 buy Italy for a weekend or whatever it is that 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:40.000 he chooses to spend his you know, his money on. 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:43.560 I just hate the fact that the disrespect is just 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:47.240 so obvious, it's so in our face, and it comes 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:51.560 without apology. The grift is loud and clear for everybody 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:51.880 to see. 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:55.320 Yeah, I mean, listen, they spent seventy five million dollars 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:57.400 on the film Malania, paying that to Donald Trump and 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:00.640 his family to curry favor for defense contracts. Today, just 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:03.840 as we're taping this, there is a reporter, Lizzie Johnson, 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:06.520 who is actually in Kiev in a war zone, and 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:09.560 she was laid off as we are writing this live 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:12.120 from a war zone. Let's think about that. 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:12.600 It's crazy. 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:15.000 Uh, you know, Tamika, I love you to death. We 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:17.040 don't have a good track record over the past seven 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:21.040 days with our guest hosts and our guests on the show. 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:24.320 But we love Georgia Ford, we love Don Lemmon. Sometimes 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:27.079 you have to laugh not to cry. But both of 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:29.440 them found themselves in the peril and the and the 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:33.640 bullseye of the Department of Justice for some utter bullshit. 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.200 And we hope and we pray that bullshit doesn't befollow 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:38.440 anybody that we love or door like it did Don 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:42.000 Lemon or Georgia Ford. Uh, talk about this for a minute. 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:43.720 I didn't want to let he says that to say. 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.080 By the way, I'm just trying to think to jail 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:49.440 right he I was first. 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:58.440 I was so said, they tried to get me to girls. 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:04.280 You know, at some point it becomes a badger out here, 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:04.839 like you. 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:08.559 Know, but can I ask you a question about it, 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:10.560 like can you talk about that? I mean, we don't 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:13.280 really have a clip during this period or graphic per se, 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:15.840 but I did think it was necessary. And Andrew actually 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:17.640 brought this up in our meeting, it was necessary to 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:20.720 talk about it, but talk about the sacrifice briefly that 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:22.880 it takes to be on the front lines of the movements, 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:24.520 because people say, oh, I want to be a part 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:27.439 of it, but they don't understand the sacrifice on family. 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:28.520 Talk about that brief you know. 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:31.120 What, It kind of made me a little emotional just now, 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:34.480 just because I was trying to take myself back to 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:40.160 those moments where I have been arrested and I have claustophobia. 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:43.760 You know, being in a patty wagon is not something 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:45.199 that I ever want to do. 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:47.520 And if you know anything about me, some of the 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:49.839 folks who've been in the paddywagon with me, when they 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:51.920 put you between where. 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:55.080 You're on one side of a little I don't know 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:57.920 what that divider is, which makes it even the partition, 0:13:57.960 --> 0:13:59.959 which makes it tighter, and then they close a game 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:02.800 and then they closed the door. The folks who've been 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.280 in there with me have had to help sing me through, 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.600 you know, help get me through that experience, because it's 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:11.600 not something that I ever wanted to do to myself, 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.160 but I've had to in order to really be a 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:17.360 part of the sacrifice that it takes to bring awareness 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:20.160 to certain causes. And when I was watching the video 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:24.240 of Georgia for and the way that DEA offices, which 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:26.040 I meant to call you, Angela and say, help me 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:31.440 understand that, because I've not ever witnessed DEA agents going 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:35.760 to fulfill a warrant about this issue, Like, it just 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:37.720 didn't make sense to me. I'm from the hood. When 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:40.800 DEA agents show up. Somebody was killed, you know what 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:45.680 I'm saying. It was drugs somebody, right, it's something big 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:49.840 has happened. And watching the experience of what was going 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:52.640 on in her home then her daughter speaking afterwards, it 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:56.760 traumatized me so much because even when my family knows 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:59.640 that I'm going out there and they aware I've made 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:04.440 everyone aware of what's happening, they still are traumatized every 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:08.040 single time because you never know what can happen once 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:12.680 a person is put into police custody. And so I 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:15.720 felt really for her, and of course for Don. I know, 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:19.080 Don Lemon in his good suit did not need to 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:22.200 be in the back of a police cargo to be 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:25.360 in a precinct, you know, or wherever they were overnight, 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:27.480 and it's just unfortunate. And I think the last thing 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:30.520 I'll say, is that what it really did was crystallized 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:34.080 for me how dangerous this moment is. That even though 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:37.520 the killing of Renee Good is terrible, terrible, the killing 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:39.640 of Keith Porter and the names go on. 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:41.800 Alex pretty is terrible. 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:45.440 And then when you add and compound the issue of 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:49.640 journalists being arrested that are trying to tell the stories, 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:53.160 we know that we have entered the real, real phases 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:54.480 of fascism in this country. 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:56.240 And I just hope everybody. 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:56.640 Is paying attention. 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:57.560 That's real. 0:15:58.560 --> 0:15:59.600 That's amazing to me. 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:01.720 Next time you hold your mic up, just hold the 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:03.560 mic part up so it's still out there. You go, 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.360 and then Bokar, you're still in the middle of your clips. 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:10.120 I just want to remind you took a significant detour. 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:12.480 I wasn't gonna cut to mik Off. I don't know 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:14.840 what you think over here, but were gonna keep it 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:19.000 moving because because because one of the other things that 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:20.640 has been going on for the past week is the 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:23.120 release of the Epstein files, they finally got around there 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:26.360 releasing the Epstein files. Ironically enough, they released a lot 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:28.760 of pictures, they released a lot of emails. Did this 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:31.720 man ever text anything? I mean, he emailed like he texted, 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.040 like we text. It was kind of wild to see. 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:36.680 Some of the things that came out, though, were mind boggling, 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:39.160 and they actually released some things about Donald Trump. He's 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:41.480 mentioned over a thousand times that they then went back 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.760 and tried to pull back, but they couldn't. Somebody else 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.320 that was mentioned was Bill Gates. Listen to this clip 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:50.960 about Melinda French Gates and some of the things she 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:54.000 went through allegedly with her husband, Bill Gates, who we 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:54.360 all know. 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.400 The emails in the files suggest that Bill Gates had 0:16:57.440 --> 0:17:00.400 additional affairs, and that he tried to get me dedication 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:04.520 to treat a sexually transmitted infection, and that he was 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:08.119 going to give you the medicine without you knowing. His 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:11.719 representative has said all of this is false. It is 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:13.960 not on you to have to respond to the details 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:19.920 of that alleged behavior. But I wonder what your dominant 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:27.160 emotion is when you read these news articles with these details. 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:32.639 Sad just unbelievable sadness. Unbelievable sadness. 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:35.800 Right, and again I'm able to take my own sadness 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.800 those young girls and say, my god, how did they 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:44.879 how did that happen to those girls, right, And so 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:49.600 for me, it's just sadness. Sadness for you know, I've left, 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:51.880 I had, I left my marriage, I had to leave 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:53.720 my marriage. I wanted to leave my marriage. 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:56.520 And so it's just sad. That's the truth, right, And 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:00.600 it's kind of like, uh, at least for me, I've. 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:02.200 Been able to move on in life. And I hope 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:05.400 there's some justice for those now women. Right we see 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:09.159 them standing up in front of microphones in DC. What 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:11.399 they went through is just unimaginable. 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:12.000 I think. 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:17.480 Angela T. Andrew, I mean what I like the way 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:19.919 that the first of all that question came from PBS, 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:23.240 which I thought in itself was bold. Second, I love 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:25.320 the way she framed it by saying dominant emotion. What 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:27.680 do you think about seeing some of these Epstein files 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:30.480 with the most powerful men in the world even talking 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:34.440 to him about getting antibiotics for std STI. 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:37.480 I mean, this one, this is clearly a world that 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:40.879 we don't know about like that does this this? I 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:44.920 mean when you look at the the scale, the size, 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:49.679 the impact of the men from the highest individuals in 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:58.440 banking and education and politics, finance, shit, you know, global royalty. 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:02.360 I mean, this man had a reach that I mean, 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:05.800 I just again, it's clearly a world that we're not 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:09.120 necessarily privy to. You mentioned the number of mentions Donald 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:11.840 Trump had in these emails. It is worth note that 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:15.760 his name, aside from Epstein itself, is the second highest 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:22.040 set of mentions in this second release of three million documents. Again, 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:24.520 I understand the association that you can be mentioned and 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:28.359 there not be any criminal liability connected to you. But 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:33.040 also in some ways, you know, you get to uh 0:19:33.400 --> 0:19:36.160