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Speaker 1: from twenty nineteen. We pretty much navigate her life growing
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Speaker 5: I think that was the funeral of my rap career,
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Speaker 1: Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of course left.
Speaker 2: Wow, I feel like we were just here. I know
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Speaker 6: Where we're Capitol Records in Hollywood, California.
Speaker 2: It's like we live here. Yeah, our fourth weekend road
Speaker 2: without showering changing. Yeah, anyway, we got a Yeah, how man,
Speaker 2: how's married life? And life is good? Man?
Speaker 6: It's it's it's boring and it means it's the great thing,
Speaker 6: which means no surprise. It's nothing to report. We are
Speaker 6: doing great. We watched our h G t V.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: We we you know, grilled chicken. You know we do
Speaker 6: our dancing on Sundays. Yeah, we just do old watch
Speaker 6: Nigga ship. We should be chilling.
Speaker 2: That's all you can ask for. Gabby is really laughing
Speaker 2: anything any happenings are you cool?
Speaker 4: It's like everything is opposite now I'm good, okay, great
Speaker 4: in your teeth though, this is a smile. No, this
Speaker 4: is real because because gats here, so I'm excited.
Speaker 2: We've been trying to get here for Yes, Boss Bill,
Speaker 2: everything's okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still breathing, not in jail, got all my teeth.
Speaker 1: You know, my money is straight okay? And Tucker Steve,
Speaker 1: how's the network? We're thriving, bro?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Any any developments are uh, We're thriving. Okay. Uh.
Speaker 2: Today our guest is activists author. Yeah, I gotta start
Speaker 2: with activists alphabetical order. Yeah. Wait what alphabet is the activist?
Speaker 2: She's author a yeah? Or is that the is that
Speaker 2: the new ghetto or he got like.
Speaker 4: Order?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Of all her professions, you skipt alligator high school long ago. Okay,
Speaker 1: anyway we have most importantly, she's a good friend and
Speaker 1: uh one of my favorite people ever. Please welcome from Omahabraska.
Speaker 1: Gabrielle Union.
Speaker 4: Yeah, bang bang Mary kanang.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 6: I just want to say, man, the scene Okay, I
Speaker 6: before I forget it's been a long day. Look the scene.
Speaker 6: Because my wife she watched the show. I didn't watch
Speaker 6: the show.
Speaker 4: Was not me, but she does.
Speaker 2: She got me in. She pulled me in, like because
Speaker 2: I be on the college and I'm like what is
Speaker 2: this and I'm looking and then by like the end
Speaker 2: of the show, I'm like, oh ship, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. It pulled me in.
Speaker 6: It was it was so it was I was enthralled.
Speaker 6: So the scene where the dad please forgive me for
Speaker 6: miss up the characters where the dad kicks the mom
Speaker 6: kicks sure Gaby at the house when Nikka yeah yeah,
Speaker 6: favored like, oh no this show, she you're about to go, I.
Speaker 2: D you want to.
Speaker 4: I had I really wanted to.
Speaker 7: I thought to make sure that whoever was going to
Speaker 7: break up shaft and should.
Speaker 2: Was worth it.
Speaker 4: And we fought to get the hand. Who else that
Speaker 4: was a wonderful cast.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, he and he wanted to do like the
Speaker 7: whole operation. He was the oldest of our senior actors.
Speaker 7: And he was like, no, well Billy d Williams Williams
Speaker 7: what he was unavailable? But no, but the Hammer wanted
Speaker 7: to do it topless like he and wardrobe was like no, no,
Speaker 7: how about a shirt and he's like, fuck you no,
Speaker 7: see these nipples?
Speaker 4: It was hammer tat we're talking.
Speaker 2: About Yeah, when I when I was watching it, Okay,
Speaker 2: so I like the show.
Speaker 8: I do.
Speaker 2: I do like that. I want to speak clear. I
Speaker 2: do like the show. My wife that got me finished
Speaker 2: to our movie.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about them.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing now, when I saw that exact scene,
Speaker 1: the way she kind of walked out the door, I
Speaker 1: hit you up and I was like, is it is
Speaker 1: it wrong for me to say I kind of maybe
Speaker 1: crush on.
Speaker 4: Crushes?
Speaker 5: And I said, you were not the first person to
Speaker 5: tell me that falling. Oh, she has a very active life.
Speaker 4: I believe she believes active.
Speaker 5: Her on social media. She's she will take you from
Speaker 5: the club to the swap mate.
Speaker 4: She is, Yes, she must be like Vanessa Bell Calloway
Speaker 4: tribe right, like that seems like I'm a little older old,
Speaker 4: but she's slopping seventy two or three.
Speaker 7: But she's she's an active senior. She's like they go
Speaker 7: to the club. Like she wears like all leather outfits. Y. Yeah,
Speaker 7: she does inspirational workout videos.
Speaker 4: Listen, we all have everything.
Speaker 5: Sugar and he dick picks.
Speaker 4: Is she single?
Speaker 5: I do not think so. But she does not post
Speaker 5: her too. Yeah, I wonder if they have arguments.
Speaker 4: You are posting me on m c M.
Speaker 6: Like what she's doing what the young people call staying
Speaker 6: low and buildings ride.
Speaker 2: And shot the ground.
Speaker 5: Damn right?
Speaker 4: How is she? You look at her in his yellow dress?
Speaker 5: Po po wow, that would be a New York and
Speaker 5: Company dress.
Speaker 4: What she's a supporter?
Speaker 2: She is a supporter.
Speaker 4: Need to go to New York Company.
Speaker 5: I know you was doing it like this jumpsuit as
Speaker 5: well from the latest collection.
Speaker 4: I can't how many job as per my prenup A lot?
Speaker 2: Yes, I love it, I love I love it, I
Speaker 2: got it. I love it.
Speaker 4: We all start at the beginning. We'd be doing Boss.
Speaker 2: Going go in.
Speaker 4: I didn't know he was going in on the Mary
Speaker 4: Jane because I was gonna. Okay, So because you were, so,
Speaker 4: can we start at the beginnings of Mary Jane and
Speaker 4: maybe just move around? So the casting process, because we
Speaker 4: were talking about it already, you were, I know you're
Speaker 4: all in correct, like from the inception, not from the inception.
Speaker 7: Season three is when I became an executive producer, so
Speaker 7: I had more say so. So the first couple of seasons, no,
Speaker 7: I would you would show up to work and be like, oh.
Speaker 5: You're here today, So this post this is post Omari,
Speaker 5: which can we just say? Yeah?
Speaker 7: So I wish I had to I could take credit
Speaker 7: for Amary, but I cannot. Yeah, that was that was
Speaker 7: mar and Salem. But Elie Morris Chestnut, who we will
Speaker 7: see in the series finale more, Oh, there's more.
Speaker 1: I have to make it sad with series finale and
Speaker 1: the series finale, how many okay, how.
Speaker 2: Many episodes are you doing for the final season?
Speaker 7: Don't give me this, it's a series finale film. So
Speaker 7: we started off the show with a movie, yeah, two
Speaker 7: hour movie, and we're ending the show with a two
Speaker 7: hour movie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm The last episode was Michael Eely being like
Speaker 4: fucking up and then you being like I want oh,
Speaker 4: so it's more okay.
Speaker 7: And then I wanted just to, you know, make it
Speaker 7: a little saucy. So I was like, mo, you come,
Speaker 7: will you come work with us for a little bit?
Speaker 7: And he was kind enough to agree.
Speaker 2: Decisionsses you just know walking out.
Speaker 7: No, I mean, if if it was up to us,
Speaker 7: we would have done more. But you know, things, things
Speaker 7: have changed a bit of always do a network things.
Speaker 2: I was just.
Speaker 5: Oh, I didn't sign in DA.
Speaker 2: They had to make room for what episodes of Rebel.
Speaker 4: Misunion did not signd noting for Cosby. So wait says
Speaker 4: you didn't. Was there a problem with this storyline? Was
Speaker 4: that the real issue? Because it's like so many issues.
Speaker 4: Rumors about why there was the whole suing.
Speaker 5: Would be you can't sue for a storyline.
Speaker 4: It was like a lot of different things like, well,
Speaker 4: she wants more control, she wants more controlled of creative.
Speaker 5: How much more control can you have than being executive producer?
Speaker 4: Rumors.
Speaker 7: I don't read blogs, so I don't know neither. I
Speaker 7: only know like headlines what I see for no and
Speaker 7: I thought it was super clear. Whyse dude, I don't
Speaker 7: know how it could have been misinterpreted. No, we made
Speaker 7: it a financial agreement. And a lot of what a
Speaker 7: lot of networks will do is they will try to
Speaker 7: combine seasons. So if you make it, say you get
Speaker 7: a raise from seasons three to four and four to five.
Speaker 7: The way a lot of networks will save money is
Speaker 7: by combining have a super size six. Yeah, so when
Speaker 7: they do that, everybody loses money. Well that the cast,
Speaker 7: the crew, everyone loses money that way. So until someone
Speaker 7: takes a stand like I did legally and say, no,
Speaker 7: we had a you know, we had a legal agreement
Speaker 7: each episode each season was going to be no more
Speaker 7: than thirteen, no less than eight, and you can't do that.
Speaker 7: You have to pay me as individual seasons, including my races.
Speaker 7: So I just sued them to get them to do
Speaker 7: what they said, what they agreed to.
Speaker 2: But that was it. Everything else, and that was that.
Speaker 6: What happened with the show, because I mean, the ratings
Speaker 6: were good from what I understood, I mean, is that
Speaker 6: actually why they stopped the show?
Speaker 7: Well, you know, corporate is corporate. They wanted a certain
Speaker 7: amount of it. Did become an expensive show. I mean
Speaker 7: for for b ET and I guess they wanted more
Speaker 7: of a return.
Speaker 5: I guess.
Speaker 4: Uh so that was that was that.
Speaker 2: But these same people that you negotiated with coming in,
Speaker 2: are they the same people.
Speaker 7: That No, No, there's been some regimes since yeah, since we.
Speaker 2: First show like that as well to a regime. Yeah.
Speaker 7: So so yeah, there's some people who made promises and
Speaker 7: then by the time those promises were it's time to
Speaker 7: pay the piper, it was like, oh no, bitch.
Speaker 5: No, So this twenty episode season four, come on now?
Speaker 4: So how does that work with your relationship with because
Speaker 4: you were the BET Honors person as well, like you were,
Speaker 4: so how does that work? Like you do keep it separate?
Speaker 4: I can't remember if you stopped after that?
Speaker 7: It all stopped just because I'm not a host, So
Speaker 7: I'm like, I'm an actor, So you know, why am
Speaker 7: I taking a job from somebody who wants to be
Speaker 7: a host or who.
Speaker 5: Needs another job.
Speaker 7: I don't need all the checks, I mean, as per
Speaker 7: the prenup, I don't, so I just kind of thought
Speaker 7: it was time for somebody else to have a shot
Speaker 7: at it. It was a great and a great paying gig.
Speaker 7: And yeah, like it's let somebody else have a shot. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I mean, but we would have continued on. Everyone in
Speaker 7: the cast wanted to come back. Everyone loved the show,
Speaker 7: We loved the show runner, we loved being in Atlanta.
Speaker 7: It was not a tough show to do. We would
Speaker 7: shoot two episodes at a time, so it was tough
Speaker 7: to shoot. But we like the people, we like the storyline.
Speaker 7: So yeah, no, I definitely didn't have any problem with
Speaker 7: the story. You know the storyline that and I had
Speaker 7: a ton of power, so and I was paid very well.
Speaker 7: I can't can complain about that, but I do complain
Speaker 7: with my money.
Speaker 5: Gets funny.
Speaker 7: I don't mess with anybody else's money, and I don't
Speaker 7: expect anybody else to fuck with mine.
Speaker 2: So that's why I own my own network. We can
Speaker 2: rebooth me and Mary Jane on the Sugar Network having
Speaker 2: an Instagram, so on Instagram live.
Speaker 1: Okay, So if you I don't know what the arrangement is,
Speaker 1: but is it possible that you can just put it
Speaker 1: on ice for a little Yeah, put it on ice
Speaker 1: for a little bit and then go well, I mean
Speaker 1: it's been.
Speaker 7: It's been what almost a year and a half. No,
Speaker 7: maybe a year since we last aired our last episode,
Speaker 7: and it's going to be another They're not going to
Speaker 7: even air the movie until twenty nineteen, and we've been
Speaker 7: done with the movie since February. It's just it's that's
Speaker 7: a long time for an audience to wait and try
Speaker 7: to stick with it. And then everyone else had got jobs,
Speaker 7: and that was the other thing, Like when you when you, yeah,
Speaker 7: when you commit to pick up a show, that means
Speaker 7: you can't the other the cast can't do other things.
Speaker 7: But they're also not actually getting paid to be on
Speaker 7: hold and not be able to do other things. So
Speaker 7: I'm again, I don't mess with anybody's money, and if
Speaker 7: we're not going to come back in a timely fashion,
Speaker 7: then I'm not also not going to hold you hostage
Speaker 7: for a Maybe that's not fair.
Speaker 4: Speaking of that. The sister that plays your younger sister,
Speaker 4: I was so I was so happy to see her,
Speaker 4: Yeah on the show on showtime.
Speaker 5: Yeah she's on Smell. Yes, Yeah, she's on Smell. She's
Speaker 5: killing it.
Speaker 2: She did, she does.
Speaker 7: She's even more involved in this second season. Really proud
Speaker 7: of her. She's in the campaign my New York and
Speaker 7: Company campaign for my line. She's she's back as as
Speaker 7: a as a part of the Altogether Now campaign.
Speaker 5: So well, everyone loves her.
Speaker 4: She's dope in her storyline. I know a lot of
Speaker 4: people like a lot of a lot of women related to.
Speaker 7: Her storyline, and I think people will be interesting to
Speaker 7: see how it resolves.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like she's about to be just an
Speaker 4: entrepreneur whin.
Speaker 2: I just.
Speaker 5: You'll have to tune in to see in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 4: Well, anything in the movie with any past loves from
Speaker 4: this seasons before pop up?
Speaker 7: Well no, well you know what here I can tell
Speaker 7: you because we wanted Omari to come back, but he's
Speaker 7: filming Power. Yeah, he was filming Power. Yeah, we were
Speaker 7: trying to get him to come back.
Speaker 2: But I just feel like you spoiled it for me,
Speaker 2: Like I at least wanted to.
Speaker 4: You wanted to. You wanted to think that he may
Speaker 4: be coming, that he might be back. But then it's
Speaker 4: also like and do what And she's had a lot
Speaker 4: of past loves that were dope, Like I mean maybe
Speaker 4: Gary Dr Daniel step back on the scene.
Speaker 1: No, he stop talking about what's a nice girl? From
Speaker 1: moment on Nebraska doing Actually you're I know a few
Speaker 1: actresses from Oman, Nebraska.
Speaker 5: There are a few.
Speaker 2: You're no, you're in the most successful, You're the one
Speaker 2: that we can watch in front of our You're the
Speaker 2: no the plenty there like.
Speaker 5: Such a grazyeah.
Speaker 2: But I just not.
Speaker 5: I just I was like, I know where porn stars
Speaker 5: are from, and such a gray from.
Speaker 1: Every black foreign actress that I personally know. It comes
Speaker 1: from Omaha. Who I'm not naming names.
Speaker 4: Right now, all we can google.
Speaker 2: I mean, we had this conversation during the Heather hundred episode.
Speaker 5: So go back and this other hunter is not from
Speaker 5: am I was, okay, well name the one who.
Speaker 4: Name people.
Speaker 2: The man was like the old school s. Wait, hold on,
Speaker 2: I have Shirley shut up.
Speaker 4: Just to class this up, this moment of Kathy Hughes
Speaker 4: is also from Oh well.
Speaker 7: Kathy Hughes is a family friend for my mom. Was
Speaker 7: just at the big ceremony to honor Kathy. Her and
Speaker 7: my mom were raised together by my grandmother, her.
Speaker 4: My godmother, best friends.
Speaker 2: What was your what was your household?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 7: Oh, h in Omaha or when we moved to the
Speaker 7: Bear area.
Speaker 2: Because also a lot of family Omaha as well.
Speaker 4: Oh no, she's from She's from Iowa.
Speaker 2: He's from Iowa.
Speaker 7: Very Midwestern, but we have one of the largest black
Speaker 7: families in the state of Nebraska and one of the
Speaker 7: largest in the Midwest. Last year we had our hundredth
Speaker 7: annual family reunion. We have the dozens of cousins Bryant
Speaker 7: Fisher Family Reunion.
Speaker 2: The T shirts.
Speaker 4: Every family, every branch.
Speaker 5: Has its own T shirt.
Speaker 7: So there's like a T shirt wars to see who's
Speaker 7: got the flyest T shirts the best material. But we
Speaker 7: literally have thousands of people in at our family reunion.
Speaker 7: We have a we have a week's worth of activities.
Speaker 7: There's a parade on Saturday. We got our own family
Speaker 7: drill team.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, oh no, it's a whole yeah no.
Speaker 5: So it was like it's very family oriented.
Speaker 7: You know, growing up is you get into some trouble
Speaker 7: and people be like you Bunny's baby, did.
Speaker 2: You know that?
Speaker 5: They're like your nose?
Speaker 7: I'm like, you saw me when this Mickey's big now
Speaker 7: and it was my nostrils that gave it away. Is
Speaker 7: that what you're trying to tell me? So it's very
Speaker 7: everyone knows everybody. The north side of Omaha is all blacks,
Speaker 7: where Malcolm X is from, but everybody knows everybody.
Speaker 5: So it's just very family oriented.
Speaker 7: We're going uh Friday, We're taking the boys to Nebraska,
Speaker 7: starting in Omaha and then going to Lincoln for the
Speaker 7: home opener. And just by chance, I'm a massive obviously
Speaker 7: Cornhusker fan, but Nebraska Cornhuskers offered Zaire, our oldest son.
Speaker 5: His first college scholarship.
Speaker 7: So it's just by chance they offered it to him
Speaker 7: last week and we're we were going anyway.
Speaker 4: So is it in his top how he feels about it?
Speaker 5: Is his first one?
Speaker 7: I mean, he's going into his junior year, so there
Speaker 7: may be more. Hopefully there's a whole have a ton
Speaker 7: of offers, but it's to me it's special that Nebraska
Speaker 7: was the first school that stepped up to offer him.
Speaker 7: And so we get to go see the sea of
Speaker 7: Red on Saturday, and so he gets to see I
Speaker 7: have a sense of you know what, the sea of red.
Speaker 7: So Memorial Stadium in Lincoln on football Saturday is the
Speaker 7: third largest city in the state, so and everyone wears red.
Speaker 7: So it's you walk in and it's a sea of red.
Speaker 7: And our fans have been voted I think like every
Speaker 7: year for the past however many years as the kindest fans.
Speaker 7: We're the kindest.
Speaker 8: Opposit Santa Claus. No, no, okay, every one's very nice.
Speaker 8: See it's Nebraska.
Speaker 5: It's just nice.
Speaker 7: I mean I go back now. We go to you know,
Speaker 7: like lounges and packing packing store. I don't know if
Speaker 7: you guys have packing stores.
Speaker 2: Got a package pack of stores.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So you go sit in the parking lot of
Speaker 7: the package store and drink and then you go across
Speaker 7: to the lounge that is usually across from the pack
Speaker 7: of store, and you it's like generational partying. So you
Speaker 7: might be in there with your grandparents all the way
Speaker 7: down to you know, your youngest cousins, and everybody just
Speaker 7: hangs together and listens to the Bobby Boot plantat Loo.
Speaker 2: Yes, Cold Records.
Speaker 7: You gotta remember, like all those all those acts from
Speaker 7: Kansas City, Chicago. We were on that circuit and we
Speaker 7: had to stop in Omaha to play to play. Well
Speaker 7: it's closed now, but the theater in Omaha.
Speaker 1: I've only been there once, but there's really great record
Speaker 1: shops there. So in downtown Midwest is an untapped resource.
Speaker 4: They got good food there. I never nobody talk about
Speaker 4: the food, and oh my, I just ran I like
Speaker 4: to eat.
Speaker 7: I was, I mean, well, our family cooks, yeah, but
Speaker 7: I mean in terms of like restaurant like Famous.
Speaker 4: Philly has a cheese steak and this place has a dad.
Speaker 7: I was like, we've got steaks, yeah, wow, yeah, your
Speaker 7: godfathers and Valentino's pizza.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you make the move to La Was it college
Speaker 2: or to the Bay.
Speaker 7: To My parents got transferred at eight and they're both
Speaker 7: in telecommunication. So my mom worked at pac Bell, my
Speaker 7: dad worked at AT and T.
Speaker 5: So my dad got.
Speaker 7: Transferred and my mom's job just transferred her. But my
Speaker 7: parents would send me back just I'm the middle of
Speaker 7: three girls. I don't know how they made these decisions,
Speaker 7: but they sent me back to Omaha for three months,
Speaker 7: you know, every summer started, summer, picked me up at
Speaker 7: the end every summer. So out of all of us,
Speaker 7: I'm the one who has the most connection still to
Speaker 7: Nebraska helped.
Speaker 2: What's the distance of the younger.
Speaker 7: And there's four years between me and my older sister
Speaker 7: and then seven years between me and my little sister.
Speaker 5: So she was a mistake.
Speaker 4: She's clearly a mistake.
Speaker 2: Make it.
Speaker 1: I came seven years later after my Yeah, that sounds
Speaker 1: about right. As long as you know, I've got my
Speaker 1: mom to ad minute. Yeah, I was like, come on,
Speaker 1: like this still make no.
Speaker 2: How's the devilcots baby, nobody's supposed to be here. So
Speaker 2: it was acting your uh, your initial goal in life.
Speaker 7: What did you No, that's it's not I never looked
Speaker 7: at it as a real profession. It's like something.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 5: It's like in the back of.
Speaker 7: My mind, I always feel like I still need to
Speaker 7: know how to do Excel and like spreadsheets.
Speaker 4: Wasn't a sports person or no.
Speaker 5: No, no.
Speaker 7: I wanted to be a lawyer like my older sister.
Speaker 7: I wanted to be, you know, a defense at and
Speaker 7: fight for the underdog. We have some a number of
Speaker 7: family members in the criminal justice system without great representation,
Speaker 7: so I kind of grew up feeling like you had
Speaker 7: to sort of, i don't know, be a part of
Speaker 7: fighting the man, you know, and defending defending the defenseless,
Speaker 7: the voiceless. And but that came from watching Perry Mason.
Speaker 7: So it wasn't like my sister was a big Perry
Speaker 7: Mason law an LA law fan, and so she was
Speaker 7: sort of obsessed with being a lawyer. She's not a lawyer,
Speaker 7: but neither one of us turned to law, but that
Speaker 7: was sort of the plan. I was studying for the
Speaker 7: LSATs when I got an internship at a modeling agency,
Speaker 7: and then when that ended, they.
Speaker 5: Were like, would you ever want to be one of
Speaker 5: like our girls.
Speaker 4: I was like, well, how much?
Speaker 5: How much is it you know pay?
Speaker 7: Because I was working at the bookstore. I was a
Speaker 7: book by back supervisor at u c l A.
Speaker 5: Number Management.
Speaker 2: I liked to sa that money from them buy back books.
Speaker 4: It's worth forty dollars.
Speaker 2: The original game sixty about to give you four months
Speaker 2: and then sales ship for four years. Yeah, that was
Speaker 2: the same.
Speaker 5: I was the person where people were like, let me
Speaker 5: talk to your manager.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when did you graduate U c l.
Speaker 5: A ninety six in nineteen ninety six? And what is crazy?
Speaker 1: So wait was were you there at that the Well,
Speaker 1: our friend Tina Farris, one of my managers, y'all were
Speaker 1: there at the same.
Speaker 5: Time at the same time.
Speaker 4: She was cooler than I.
Speaker 5: I was the book buy back supervisor and she was cooler.
Speaker 2: She was not a UCL Okay, no, okay, no, I
Speaker 2: was you know, even.
Speaker 7: Like supervising putting us stamps on like books, you know,
Speaker 7: living in North Hollywood didn't even live in Westwood.
Speaker 2: DJ quick.
Speaker 7: No, I uh know when I lived with like my
Speaker 7: ex boyfriend in North Hollywood and no.
Speaker 4: Is that was where were you listening to at that time? Gain,
Speaker 4: I'm just curious.
Speaker 7: I was listening to quick No and a lot of
Speaker 7: I mean, mhmm at that time. It was because I
Speaker 7: went from n tow ba to easy E a lot
Speaker 7: of too short wrapping. Yeah, what else Monica? I love Monica,
Speaker 7: love Brandy. I'm just wanting to think of at that time,
Speaker 7: what else was.
Speaker 2: The status quo of R and B.
Speaker 1: You know that sort of thing, one like bottom hip
Speaker 1: hop actually named Monica pretty much, you know the status quo.
Speaker 1: So how did you officially jump in the pool of acting?
Speaker 7: So when my internship ended and they asked if I
Speaker 7: wanted to be presented by them, and they said I
Speaker 7: could make one hundred and fifty dollars a day minus
Speaker 7: twenty percent, I was like shit, I was making six
Speaker 7: dollars and sixteen cents an hour after three raises at
Speaker 7: the bookstore.
Speaker 5: So I was like, well, I'm not going to give
Speaker 5: up my study gig.
Speaker 7: But if you think I could get work as a model,
Speaker 7: I guess and then the first day they sent me
Speaker 7: out on a goo see. I booked the first thing
Speaker 7: for teen magazine. It was all the top fashion magazines
Speaker 7: at the time, teen all about.
Speaker 5: You, Sassy. I don't know if you guys are familiar
Speaker 5: with that.
Speaker 2: I've seen remember, So I would.
Speaker 7: Be their editorial model. So it would be like going
Speaker 7: through a rough breakup, twelve steps to get you.
Speaker 4: Back on track.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, with the word that was my modeling those.
Speaker 2: Like on TV there, I was like make love to
Speaker 2: the camera, Like no, it was.
Speaker 7: Literally like your boyfriend just broke up with you, or
Speaker 7: you know how to talk to your gun and collegist.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, it was model full of people because
Speaker 1: when I photos, I hate, like my publicist watches their.
Speaker 2: Arms are folded. Everyone has these looks on them and
Speaker 2: it's hard to be.
Speaker 1: Not.
Speaker 5: At that time, it was like the cheesiest ship.
Speaker 7: Like my biggest gig was the it was the memorial
Speaker 7: dape insert for Montgomery Wards.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: And it was a big fucking deal.
Speaker 7: Because we shot it out and on them on a
Speaker 7: Santa Monica pere and I had to ride a skateboard
Speaker 7: and and I had to like have these glasses like
Speaker 7: you know, dangling from my teeth and you know.
Speaker 5: It was a whole thing. But I was like, I
Speaker 5: made a bitch.
Speaker 2: Why do I go to U C l A.
Speaker 7: Like I used to go out on on go sees
Speaker 7: for music videos. I never got chosen, Like oh there's
Speaker 7: always what didn't I audition for California Love video with
Speaker 7: like five hundred of my closest friends and you had
Speaker 7: to come. They always would always say come body conscious,
Speaker 7: which basically means come like with your nipples out and
Speaker 7: be prepared to move. I'm sorry, be prepared to move.
Speaker 7: Come body conscious and be prepared to move. So I
Speaker 7: come with my book at my modeling book with like
Speaker 7: your boyfriend broke up with the picture and then like
Speaker 7: my big you know, piece of me like on the skateboard,
Speaker 7: you know, and I'm like here, Tupac, tell me what
Speaker 7: you think. Luckily, he was actually really really sweet and
Speaker 7: he took the time to look through my bullshit ass
Speaker 7: book and.
Speaker 2: Then he actually chose again not me.
Speaker 7: He was kind enough during the audition process to like
Speaker 7: look through my book like that. You hand them your
Speaker 7: book and then they thumb through it or whatever and
Speaker 7: then they put on you.
Speaker 2: I don't know who.
Speaker 7: I don't know Whoupa, but he was in the He
Speaker 7: was dead center, along with like his fifty cousins. And
Speaker 7: then and everyone's just watching you dance, and I look
Speaker 7: like a cricket having a seizure. I was probably like
Speaker 7: fifteen pounds lighter, like just all elbow was the knobby me.
Speaker 5: And so I'm doing my sexy dance which just was
Speaker 5: not sucking California video. It was so bad.
Speaker 4: And I drove home in my Miata like, oh my goodness,
Speaker 4: was killing it. Yeah, Me and Terry and Terry.
Speaker 5: Vaughn had y.
Speaker 2: That was the drug girlfriend.
Speaker 4: Because she had a moment for Terry Vaughn. Another one
Speaker 4: who's black. Don't crack.
Speaker 5: She's she's gorgeous.
Speaker 7: We've been friends for so long. She's also from the band.
Speaker 7: She's from Hunter's Point.
Speaker 4: You can hear it. You can hear her. Accid called
Speaker 4: the show.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 5: So no, so okay.
Speaker 7: So I didn't get the California Love video. Didn't get Oh,
Speaker 7: I was pinned. So this means I was very close
Speaker 7: to a three for a three T video.
Speaker 5: You obviously not.
Speaker 2: I was pinned.
Speaker 5: I started spending that chuck at Contemple.
Speaker 1: Casual doesn't remember. Three three They were Tito Jackson's three sons.
Speaker 4: Yes, they had a life time reality show about a
Speaker 4: year or two ago.
Speaker 2: They did know. They had that one jam Anything for You? Also, Michael,
Speaker 2: they did why that was?
Speaker 1: It was?
Speaker 4: That was the song they had that.
Speaker 2: It was like one you a Michael Jackson video.
Speaker 5: Oh no, well, well ishh.
Speaker 2: I was pinned that one of them. They Kim Kim
Speaker 2: at the time she was.
Speaker 4: They went to prom Kim Kim car card dash.
Speaker 2: Okay, he loved your hesitation. I didn't know. I know, Okay,
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 4: The first one you think of when you hear Kim.
Speaker 2: Thinking Kim Fields. I'm like, nig wasn't.
Speaker 4: Women That's right, the fucking Field.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. Yeh, the kid. That's the kid I
Speaker 2: acknowledged first. She's still the primary studio. Yeah, tot. But no.
Speaker 7: So when I was desperately wanting to be a video vixen,
Speaker 7: I would no one would choose me. I was no
Speaker 7: one's idea of a video vixen. But then when I
Speaker 7: started booking more jobs, and then then people start coming out.
Speaker 5: Of the world work.
Speaker 7: So the first major job I did was from Mark
Speaker 7: Nelson fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2: Yo was in fifteen minutes.
Speaker 7: Oh god, the orgasm girl, what, I had an orgasm
Speaker 7: button on my back.
Speaker 5: I was like a robot, like a sex robot kind
Speaker 5: of thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The treatment was wild video. It was I had feen
Speaker 1: minutes and going to get up in it, just come
Speaker 1: and break.
Speaker 2: He had pretty much.
Speaker 5: Billy Wood Driff directed it.
Speaker 4: Yes, they did all start the relationship.
Speaker 2: Didn't like that in your next How do you know that?
Speaker 2: Because I knew I had listen, man, this was beating beat.
Speaker 2: Look bro this.
Speaker 1: I did not have the Chocolate Mood album because funck that,
Speaker 1: but listen. That was the butter Loove era of all. Yes,
Speaker 1: that was when all those things had that same heat,
Speaker 1: like it was Butterlove. And then fifteen minutes and I Belong.
Speaker 2: To You by Wrong. It was like, all, oh my god,
Speaker 2: it was all those records scene. This is earth, right,
Speaker 2: this happened on Earth. What year was this ninety eight?
Speaker 2: Like because minutes it was like ninety you know what.
Speaker 7: It was the same day we shot the video, the
Speaker 7: same day the JFK Junior died whatever the plane the
Speaker 7: plane yeah, whatever day that was was the day we
Speaker 7: shot that fifteen minutes video.
Speaker 5: Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 5: But no, don't stop there, don't stop there, let's go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was an R and B princess.
Speaker 5: Y'all didn't know. I did the Uncle Sam video.
Speaker 4: Wait wait did I go?
Speaker 2: That was see You Again? Is that the one?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 7: So I start off as a kid and I'm a
Speaker 7: dancer and then like it's like we fall in love
Speaker 7: as kids and then like and then like I come
Speaker 7: back as an adult person and we're in life.
Speaker 2: You drank some milk and then you forget the treatment.
Speaker 5: But that was directed by Darren Darren Grant.
Speaker 7: Darren Grant who also directed me in a dark and
Speaker 7: lovely commercial starring Usher.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 7: Before Usher and I did She's All That Together. It's
Speaker 7: a It's a very small world.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I did a Montel Jordan video where I was a bride.
Speaker 7: I did I Love My Chick. I did Paradise Paradise
Speaker 7: neo video and Independent well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then it just wasn't Independent. Yeah.
Speaker 7: I was like yeah independent, yeah, wow, No, one's just
Speaker 7: in a while though, since I got a little long in.
Speaker 4: The tooth, I mean, would you still do it? If
Speaker 4: somebody I mean I'm sure people would. They knew you
Speaker 4: were open.
Speaker 5: I mean for the right artist.
Speaker 2: I yeah, but who is that?
Speaker 5: Who is the right and who would you come back for?
Speaker 2: Who would you come back the video? Do a video
Speaker 2: for that?
Speaker 5: Wouldn't care one way or another. I would.
Speaker 7: I would listen. Bruno Mars is a sexy little thing.
Speaker 2: It is a sexy little thing.
Speaker 7: Him and those band, the band we had a we
Speaker 7: had a legendary dance off at it was a an
Speaker 7: Atlantic Records party at the Chateau and it was like
Speaker 7: me Serena Williams, A J.
Speaker 5: Johnson from hov.
Speaker 7: And we we battled Bruno and his band members.
Speaker 2: Wow, I believe one. It's like literally recreated the dance
Speaker 2: battle and that's fucking dope.
Speaker 5: And that was my time in R and B.
Speaker 6: We thank you for your sam salts. I'm not saying
Speaker 6: all tonight, it's all tonight. Yeah, your fifteen minutes wouldn't
Speaker 6: have been saying without your contributions.
Speaker 2: Gabby, thank you.
Speaker 7: I would I would still like I like whenever I
Speaker 7: go see new Edition and they'll be like, yeah, will
Speaker 7: you come on stage?
Speaker 5: I'm like, no, yes, off, Ralph and Johnny are coming
Speaker 5: back and all the day are you hovering.
Speaker 2: After? Well?
Speaker 1: I mean by that time, you were also doing television,
Speaker 1: TV and movies stuff as well.
Speaker 2: Like what were you doing?
Speaker 7: I started off with Saved by the Bell, the New Class.
Speaker 7: I actually did that twice. They were like, no one's
Speaker 7: gonna remember, like the first time I was Mistletoe Girl
Speaker 7: number two to the first time I went on the
Speaker 7: show was total new new cast, the newcast, but mister
Speaker 7: Belding and Screech were still on.
Speaker 2: What was the what was the the Hollywood shuffle like
Speaker 2: in ninety nine two thousand?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 5: Like you Well, for us, like we used to see
Speaker 5: the same five six girls in.
Speaker 7: Every for every role, it'd be me, Melinda Williams, Bianca
Speaker 7: laws in Sona, Zoe Saldana, Carrie came a little bit
Speaker 7: later after say the Last Dance. But yeah, we would
Speaker 7: just be in the same rooms, you know, all Reagan Gomez.
Speaker 7: We would just see the same people and then people
Speaker 7: would get picked off get a show, and then the
Speaker 7: group would ebb and flow depending on who was working.
Speaker 5: But we've all kind of just stayed working, you know.
Speaker 2: So is it a matter of hang I mean, was
Speaker 2: it were you click?
Speaker 7: Is you're like, oh, how you don't or was it well,
Speaker 7: like we have you know, like we have our crew
Speaker 7: that we hang out with, so like me, Sonah, Regina King,
Speaker 7: King joins us on occasion, haul, you know, Essen Sadkins,
Speaker 7: Robin Lee, So we have our own sort of crew.
Speaker 7: But everyone's cool. I mean at this stage it's like whatever.
Speaker 7: Back in the day, it could be a little caddy
Speaker 7: at times, just because you have this idea there's only
Speaker 7: so much work.
Speaker 4: It's only one black girl in that white girl, white comedy,
Speaker 4: romantic comedy. Except we came up.
Speaker 7: In that time of WB and upn what there was
Speaker 7: a lot of opportunity, so that wasn't really our shit,
Speaker 7: Like everyone had an opportunity to kind of shine, and
Speaker 7: every pilot season there were more.
Speaker 5: So it was just a fucked up attitude to have
Speaker 5: just on some general you a.
Speaker 4: Brave shit on that because you've spoken about that for
Speaker 4: a while.
Speaker 5: I mean I talk about it.
Speaker 7: I try to talk about it as often as I
Speaker 7: can because we kind of like to think of it.
Speaker 7: I think of it as young girl shit when it's oh,
Speaker 7: motherfucker shit too, like men and women, this idea that
Speaker 7: there's only so much. I've got a horde at all.
Speaker 7: I've got to try to dim your life with the
Speaker 7: idea that somehow the sun is going to.
Speaker 2: Shine than abundance. Yeah, like you got a hold onto something.
Speaker 7: When there's enough, favorite, there's enough for everybody. Everybody's bills
Speaker 7: are paid.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I think the first time I saw you speak on
Speaker 4: that was that the special, the Oprah Special with the
Speaker 4: general the women from different generations of Black Hollywood were
Speaker 4: like Alfreed and all them, and there was like a
Speaker 4: whole crying moment for everybody that was watching because you
Speaker 4: It was like an honest moment because most of us
Speaker 4: can admit, yeah, I was a bitch, but you know
Speaker 4: what I learned from that, and I ain't doing that
Speaker 4: shit no.
Speaker 7: Mo Yeah, no, I mean And because it started with
Speaker 7: the Essence uh, the Essence Awards where I got the
Speaker 7: Fell the Fierce and Fearless Award, and I was like,
Speaker 7: I don't want to get up there and just say
Speaker 7: a bunch of randomized cliches shit in this room of
Speaker 7: women that I've known for twenty years. I want to
Speaker 7: be honest. At this point, what the fuck do I
Speaker 7: have to lose. I've reached the bottom. I've gone from
Speaker 7: it girl to shit girl so many times it's like
Speaker 7: whatever I want to try to say something actually fierce
Speaker 7: and fearless. And I just got up there and I
Speaker 7: told the truth. You were very specific like in this,
Speaker 7: you know, and it's like, if you're not going to
Speaker 7: tell the truth, what the fuck is a point? And
Speaker 7: if I haven't survived some shit and come out the
Speaker 7: other side, and I can't say, Okay, for everyone who's
Speaker 7: been through this, this is how you get to the
Speaker 7: other side. This is how I healed, this is how
Speaker 7: I change, this is how I evolved, This is how
Speaker 7: you can too.
Speaker 5: It's just we don't generally do that.
Speaker 2: And what was that? What was what were you referring
Speaker 2: just for people? So well?
Speaker 5: I mean I touched upon a number of things and
Speaker 5: that's piece.
Speaker 7: But the thing that sort of caught a lot of
Speaker 7: people's attention was I was like, you know, I basically
Speaker 7: wished ill on a lot of people, thinking that it
Speaker 7: was somehow going to make my light shine brighter.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 7: It's it's really very crabs in a barrel type of
Speaker 7: mentality some girls. Some people call it mean girl mentality,
Speaker 7: except mean girls become mean women. You know, mean boys
Speaker 7: become mean menu And it affects every Yeah, it affects
Speaker 7: every you know, industry and every relationship, every city, every town,
Speaker 7: it's that same ship. There's only so much, so I
Speaker 7: got to try to tear you down in the hopes
Speaker 7: of building myself up.
Speaker 5: And that's just bullshit.
Speaker 4: Well it was.
Speaker 7: It was a year I got divorced, my show got canceled,
Speaker 7: and some weird random ship racist should happened at this
Speaker 7: like within this same like two week span, and I
Speaker 7: was literally under my bed. I had crawled under my
Speaker 7: bed and my dog, Babba God rest is soul. Bubba
Speaker 7: like looked under the bed like, bitches, this is what
Speaker 7: we're doing. And you know, sometimes you just got to
Speaker 7: see yourself reflected. And I mean, at this point it
Speaker 7: was some things else my dog's eyes and I was like,
Speaker 7: damn it, I forget. I'm this is this might be
Speaker 7: my breaking boy, this might be rock bottom that the
Speaker 7: dog is like fuck.
Speaker 4: And so I called A J.
Speaker 7: Johnson and she was my life coach and trainer and
Speaker 7: she got me all the way together. And the first
Speaker 7: session she said, let's put together your happy list. And
Speaker 7: I was like, and I'm you know, I'm going through
Speaker 7: this divorce. It's public, it's you know, you feel like
Speaker 7: a failure, like everything that comes with public failure. And
Speaker 7: I'm and she we're boxing, so I'm trying to hit
Speaker 7: the heavyweight bag and she's like, tell me, tell me
Speaker 7: three things that you that that are on your happy list,
Speaker 7: and I'm like, I couldn't think of My mind goes blank.
Speaker 7: I couldn't think of anything that actually made me happy.
Speaker 4: So finally I was like, real butter.
Speaker 5: I said, real butter, ground beef and imitation crab.
Speaker 4: And that's what she said.
Speaker 7: And she said, bitch, the real thing isn't even what
Speaker 7: makes you happy. Come on, and she said, no, wonder
Speaker 7: you're getting divorced. You don't know what makes you happy.
Speaker 7: How the fuck do you think someone else is going
Speaker 7: to know how to make you happy? And I was like,
Speaker 7: you know, as Oprah says, she has like aha moments,
Speaker 7: I have moments, and that's what got me started on
Speaker 7: the path to like different, Like I know I don't
Speaker 7: want that, so it can only go up at the
Speaker 7: fucking bottom. Like I don't have ship, I have no pride,
Speaker 7: I have no ego. I just I just don't want this.
Speaker 7: I don't want to feel like this. I don't I
Speaker 7: don't want to move like this.
Speaker 2: So I haven't. I'm cool with butter. Though it's laundering,
Speaker 2: it's still.
Speaker 5: On my happiness. I like imitation crab.
Speaker 4: It's affordable.
Speaker 2: I'm down with imitation crab.
Speaker 4: Cali suffering ship because now you're d m v oh, well.
Speaker 7: You guys have access to like the world's best crab.
Speaker 4: So I understand. But I understand you know, don't you
Speaker 4: live in I do. That's why I'm suffering over this
Speaker 4: bitch in this claw meat, this imitation crab.
Speaker 2: Well, y'all got crustaceans out of here, not the oysters.
Speaker 4: Oh, I mean they say it does it? But I
Speaker 4: can't get to the pass in terms of like yeah yet, sorry, okay,
Speaker 4: let me do uh the slurping of that.
Speaker 2: So what reminds you of anyway? What the where is
Speaker 2: this going?
Speaker 7: I mean we're having a whole conversation, and I'm like,
Speaker 7: I wanted to know what the what the hurdle was?
Speaker 4: You know, I can just the slurb it's just the block. Okay,
Speaker 4: So you want to tell honest, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm not really sure with that.
Speaker 4: On my I have a bad gag. Reflects and anything
Speaker 4: that's of that texture and that consistency, that hits my throat.
Speaker 4: It makes me a little you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So I'm more of a before it gets there.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Go, you must have a sound.
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 2: I totally forgot about other themes. Thank you just reminds me.
Speaker 4: She's also sweating now because the kind of talk makes her.
Speaker 2: You're a spitter, I was being poetic. Should try?
Speaker 6: Okay, So, Gabby, I know you're probably gonna instantly regret this,
Speaker 6: but no, no, no, So talk about like just when
Speaker 6: you're going through your your divorce from your was that
Speaker 6: your first marriage?
Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, what what did you learn and going through
Speaker 2: your divorce? Hm hmm, Like what do you think? Well,
Speaker 2: first off, what do you think led to the divorce?
Speaker 5: Self esteem?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Like even looking at him as a reasonable option was
Speaker 7: some o bullshit. Like if I was in a better place,
Speaker 7: I would have said, oh, you were fun to hang
Speaker 7: out with and drink with in Jacksonville, you know, one
Speaker 7: week and that was fun and that's where it should stay.
Speaker 7: But because he showed interest and I had, you know,
Speaker 7: my self worth was quite low, and I defined being
Speaker 7: worthwhile and being validated by being chosen.
Speaker 5: I was like this is totally reasonable.
Speaker 4: This, this will work.
Speaker 7: And so you know, a few months after I met
Speaker 7: him and he proposed it felt reasonable, like we'd never
Speaker 7: spent more than a weekend together, and it he asked,
Speaker 7: and this idea. You know, when you're in your twenties,
Speaker 7: you have this idea of by the time I'm twenty six,
Speaker 7: I'm going to be married and I'm gonna have a kid,
Speaker 7: and I'm going to do this, this and this.
Speaker 5: You have all these ideas and shit.
Speaker 7: And so I was at that age where all my
Speaker 7: friends from home were getting married and I felt like
Speaker 7: he asked, and you know this, who else is going
Speaker 7: to love me? Which your mom will said, you know what,
Speaker 7: I'm My parents are one of those people that are like,
Speaker 7: I raised you with common sense.
Speaker 5: If you choose not to use it, that is on you.
Speaker 5: Don't ask us for shit.
Speaker 2: Wow, So they didn't give you a read on him
Speaker 2: either way, Like they didn't.
Speaker 7: My dad is like, if he drinks dark liquor, he's
Speaker 7: okay by me. Oh no, yeah, were you the first time?
Speaker 7: I was twenty eight, second time forty one?
Speaker 4: Yes, give me praise okay, hope, I'm sorry when I
Speaker 4: get it. When I get it wherever it comes.
Speaker 2: I take it.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, shut up, you don't know my pain. I really do,
Speaker 2: trust me. You on this couch every week listening audience
Speaker 2: knows your pain. Yes, we really know it.
Speaker 4: Back again, now you're in l A. You know I
Speaker 4: got something good. We're gonna see what happened O.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah you booed up now thanks to lement hey
Speaker 2: bud so l Yeah the escorts service. Yeah. I was
Speaker 2: like some time that song that was big.
Speaker 5: I don't know that was like after Night only because
Speaker 5: it was an option on my I G story if
Speaker 5: I wanted to, and I was like, oh, what's boot up?
Speaker 5: Oh I've heard that on the radio.
Speaker 2: I'm spunning DJ. I just didn't care who's sang it down?
Speaker 6: Did you when you were going through after after your
Speaker 6: divorce whatever? Like, how long did it take for you
Speaker 6: to try to re enter another relationship?
Speaker 7: Okay, so full disclosure, And because I talk about it
Speaker 7: in my book, perhaps started before.
Speaker 2: A relationship ended officially.
Speaker 5: You like to have a solid plan before I existed.
Speaker 2: I respected no one goes shopping for shoes with bare feet.
Speaker 4: I like that, and I will use that. I will
Speaker 4: not credit you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be so mad he missed you, saying
Speaker 2: that that would be one for your book, for my coffee.
Speaker 4: I was about to do a whole divorce exchange because
Speaker 4: he's married again.
Speaker 5: Are you number two?
Speaker 2: Number two? Number two? I'm thirty nine.
Speaker 5: That first one was you.
Speaker 2: I No, I didn't.
Speaker 5: You didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't. So my shit was like I was twenty,
Speaker 2: you were twenty.
Speaker 6: I was twenty six and so and the thing it
Speaker 6: really resonated with me when you said, you know, you're
Speaker 6: looking at your people back home whatever. And it wasn't
Speaker 6: until I got much older that I realized, like how
Speaker 6: fucked up that is to do, because like, so, I
Speaker 6: mean where I grew up at. You know, I grew
Speaker 6: up in a relatively small town. You know, it's and
Speaker 6: I'm in the South, and in the South, like we
Speaker 6: get started early. Like I got a homeboy right now,
Speaker 6: like we both same age, and his kid is like
Speaker 6: about to go to college, like or it's actually like
Speaker 6: in college these niggas like in his twenties and shit,
Speaker 6: and I'm thirty nine, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So back when we were coming up, you were a
Speaker 2: success story.
Speaker 6: If you made it out of high school without getting pregnant,
Speaker 6: like I was in high school with girls that you know,
Speaker 6: seven periods, so.
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, well I gotta go pick up my
Speaker 2: baby from the babysitter. Like it was real like that.
Speaker 6: So when you look at it from then, it's like,
Speaker 6: oh damn, twenty six or twenty seven or twenty eight
Speaker 6: feels a lot older. And what it really is when
Speaker 6: you're judging it against niggas that had babies at sixteen,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. But it's not until you
Speaker 6: grow older and you go out and you actually see
Speaker 6: ways of life. And like I remember time I came
Speaker 6: out to the West Coast and I would meet chicks
Speaker 6: and they be like, yeah, so I was like, I'm
Speaker 6: twenty three.
Speaker 2: How do you I'm thirty and you know, just so
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have kids one day, I was like, one day, like, bitch,
Speaker 2: my time, my kid's gonna be out of the house.
Speaker 2: What your winners? One day? One day is today, some
Speaker 2: day is tonight. I love the same voice of yours,
Speaker 2: but it's like, but you know, but you didn't. But
Speaker 2: I really didn't.
Speaker 6: So when you say like, yeah, I really didn't know,
Speaker 6: I just thought, like by twenty six, again, comparing it
Speaker 6: to what we was seeing at the crib.
Speaker 2: By twenty six, it's like, yeah, you get married, you
Speaker 2: have a kid. Fuck it.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Because I had my first
Speaker 6: son was twenty. I was twenty one, twenty, I was
Speaker 6: in I was still in college and you know, so yeah,
Speaker 6: I know what. I really didn't know. I didn't know
Speaker 6: until it was afterwards and I was like, oh damn,
Speaker 6: I shouldn't have did that.
Speaker 5: You know what I knew.
Speaker 7: So he had just proposed I had a very big
Speaker 7: audition for Dawson's Creek up in North Carolina.
Speaker 4: Mington.
Speaker 2: That's like two hours from my house.
Speaker 7: So I flew from Jacksonville. He was playing for the Jaguars,
Speaker 7: So I flew from Jacksonville to Wilmington.
Speaker 5: Killed it didn't get it.
Speaker 4: Kind of like being pinned for.
Speaker 2: Listeners, being pinned.
Speaker 5: In my video days.
Speaker 7: They would put you know, they would check your avails
Speaker 7: and they would pin you. Does not mean you got
Speaker 7: an offer. That just means they're very interested in you.
Speaker 7: I thought it was that meant offer. It just means
Speaker 7: we're very interested. It was like, it's a solid chance
Speaker 7: you'll get.
Speaker 4: This job or not.
Speaker 2: Decided to take it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, if this was a spades hands.
Speaker 5: I'd be in queen. It's nice. Yeah, we have a
Speaker 5: spades tournament.
Speaker 2: Have you lost a friendship or two over?
Speaker 7: My dad did not talk to me. So my dad
Speaker 7: was my partner before my husband. And my dad likes
Speaker 7: to drink, like our family. I come from a family
Speaker 7: of drinkers, so we drink during most you know, social settings.
Speaker 5: And my dad had it kind of got away from
Speaker 5: a little bit.
Speaker 7: The crown got a lott away from him and he
Speaker 7: was he was talking and he wasn't paying attention right
Speaker 7: and he cut me. And I said because I too
Speaker 7: had been drinking a little and I said, nigga, did
Speaker 7: you cut me? And he pushed the ta like his
Speaker 7: chair out from the table.
Speaker 5: He's like.
Speaker 2: How old?
Speaker 4: This was like a.
Speaker 5: Definitely grown.
Speaker 7: And he took me outside and he said, I don't
Speaker 7: know who the fuck you think you are? Like he
Speaker 7: he it was such a like an old nigga cuss.
Speaker 4: Out like you wish he wouldn't hit you, because.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like.
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, but it's it's nice. So cut to Thanksgiving.
Speaker 7: It was the first time me and d were playing.
Speaker 7: We were partners. We were playing against my my dad
Speaker 7: and one of my one of my friends and my
Speaker 7: little sister. Fucking single Ladies comes on and my little
Speaker 7: sister had had some.
Speaker 5: Lemon cello desperately. Do not recommend lemon cello.
Speaker 7: At the holidays, thank you. I always use a reference.
Speaker 7: No one ever knows what I'm talking about. O.
Speaker 2: Yeah, talking about Danny.
Speaker 7: DeVito went on the View after drinking a lot of
Speaker 7: lemon cello.
Speaker 5: But George Clooney wasn't it the night before?
Speaker 7: And he was still drunk the next day on the
Speaker 7: View and it was it's genius, It's you can YouTube
Speaker 7: solid here. So my little sister is hammered off at
Speaker 7: Limonicello and she starts doing the single Ladies dance, but
Speaker 7: you know the part where you go kind of down.
Speaker 7: She had on a very low cut top, and my
Speaker 7: sister is very very very well endowed, and it was
Speaker 7: just titty's everywhere, and everyone, like all the guys kind
Speaker 7: of started crowding around, and my dad was like, he
Speaker 7: kind of was looking and then he hands my husband
Speaker 7: his cards.
Speaker 2: And he was like, I'll be back.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 5: And that was a wrap on fucking Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 5: He took her outside. All I heard was my little
Speaker 5: you don't know me, Dad, I was like, obviously, obviously not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think that you are.
Speaker 1: I mean we often talked about, you know, game night eventually,
Speaker 1: but then I realized that I feel like you're very
Speaker 1: out for yes game night person, and that our friendship
Speaker 1: might be on the line.
Speaker 2: Would yeah, we do. I fired people from game Night.
Speaker 1: I've fired employees, I've broken up with women I was
Speaker 1: interested in.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 7: The game, Okay, it was just the timing hasn't worked out.
Speaker 7: I told you about like, yes, we had Taboo League
Speaker 7: for years.
Speaker 2: League.
Speaker 7: We had league play and was guys against girls and
Speaker 7: it was dou Lat Hill, Hill, Harper, Sean Patrick, Thomas.
Speaker 5: Uh, they were just paper.
Speaker 2: So did a lot of people.
Speaker 1: I know that you are, and I just don't think
Speaker 1: they were the same. I love how you're connected. I
Speaker 1: feel like you're the epicenter.
Speaker 7: Of Literally, I'm a bridge for a lot of your Like, yeah,
Speaker 7: you are a lot of random.
Speaker 2: You are a nexus of Nikotrie.
Speaker 3: I'm changing name.
Speaker 2: My new I G. The next.
Speaker 7: We had guys against girls and we the guys have
Speaker 7: recruited Hill because he's a double ivy and blah blah
Speaker 7: blah blah, blah. So we recruited Robin Lee because she
Speaker 7: too is it.
Speaker 5: Those were the double ivy.
Speaker 7: So we recruited Robin Lee because she was a double
Speaker 7: ivy and we needed people who could average eight or
Speaker 7: nine in a taboo on a taboo round.
Speaker 5: That's how fucking serious were I think, let's not sink in.
Speaker 5: Most people get four. We don't. We don't play.
Speaker 7: So what we started doing is having taboo time. So
Speaker 7: it started with long drunken lunches that would turn into dinners.
Speaker 7: But it was just so we could spend time together
Speaker 7: so we would have better like more references so for
Speaker 7: the game.
Speaker 4: And that's how friends with Robin.
Speaker 5: We didn't even know her.
Speaker 7: We just recruited her because we thought she was smart
Speaker 7: and during these long drunken lunches to get to know
Speaker 7: each other better. So like a perfect example, Robin would
Speaker 7: be giving me the clue and she'd be like blank
Speaker 7: and the buddy.
Speaker 4: Man, I go echo.
Speaker 5: So that's how good we got and we took on
Speaker 5: the ground.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I thank you, Bill. That was a slow clap.
Speaker 1: I saw the look your face. I'm glad you said that.
Speaker 1: She got mad at me. If Man's Quest blamed it
Speaker 1: to her. But okay, but you didn't you didn't finishrselves?
Speaker 2: When did you know? Like that? Your first one was.
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 7: So, yes, the audition in Wilmington. So I had auditioned.
Speaker 7: I was coming back and I had this little ring,
Speaker 7: which it turns out I had to pay for it later.
Speaker 7: Oh god, yeah, he was big payments on.
Speaker 5: What shout out to Reed's jewelry.
Speaker 2: J Yeah, I had to.
Speaker 5: Pay that off from the doors.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So I came back and I was using his home
Speaker 7: computer and do you remember I am, yes, his boy,
Speaker 7: I am is him. He said, nigga, you still got
Speaker 7: that that uh that Greek girl coming in this weekend.
Speaker 5: And this is like Thursday, and I was scheduled to
Speaker 5: believe the next day.
Speaker 7: And I was like, I don't think I could ever
Speaker 7: be mistaken for a week, you know. So I'm like,
Speaker 7: what what ANA say back?
Speaker 2: That was not coming back?
Speaker 4: You know, what's her name again? You know that's where
Speaker 4: I gave my.
Speaker 5: I gave myself up. So he alerted him.
Speaker 7: So by the time he got home from practice, I
Speaker 7: had packed on my ship. It was all gonna be
Speaker 7: very dramatic, and I should have known when he literally
Speaker 7: had proposed, you know, in a in a bucket of chicken,
Speaker 7: like he had put my.
Speaker 2: Ring in.
Speaker 4: Kentucky, the Colonel.
Speaker 7: Kentucky and it was some potato wedges, and he he
Speaker 7: had the nerve to like, you know, have like the
Speaker 7: apartment lined in rose petals and then to the bedroom
Speaker 7: and he was on on bended knee with a with
Speaker 7: a with a box of KFC chicken wedges and chicken
Speaker 7: and he had a wedge in his hand and he
Speaker 7: was like, was.
Speaker 4: It was?
Speaker 5: It was significant at the time. Now I don't remember.
Speaker 2: I'm sure something that.
Speaker 3: Is up.
Speaker 2: Years ago. Yeah, was this the Colonel? This wasn't like
Speaker 2: that old guy, right, He was a little darker.
Speaker 4: He was a lot darker.
Speaker 7: He used to cut the bottoms off his jeans. These
Speaker 7: were subtle that I should have, you know, like adhere to. Yeah,
Speaker 7: because he didn't want to and he would just cut
Speaker 7: him off and then like he'd wash them so they
Speaker 7: would be afrayed like Jim from Huck Finn.
Speaker 2: Yeah that was before well it's cool now, yeah, because yeah,
Speaker 2: this was.
Speaker 3: Nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was.
Speaker 7: And he had like bad tattoos, like bad dumb tattoos,
Speaker 7: like he had this one with like a bulldog that
Speaker 7: said slow yeo row.
Speaker 5: Guess how guess how role was spelled?
Speaker 2: Now the word is supposed to be roll like, but
Speaker 2: he I take it it didn't spell like our old w.
Speaker 1: H Okay, did you try to gently let him know
Speaker 1: that it might be misspelled or.
Speaker 2: Like I meant to do that?
Speaker 5: Well, I will listen.
Speaker 7: That was like that was just more of like how
Speaker 7: I can explain these dumb ass tattoos. He had another
Speaker 7: tattoo of black Jesus that looked exactly like Eric Beney, so.
Speaker 2: That you got the bad tattoos with slave capris on.
Speaker 4: So how many of these do you had before he
Speaker 4: started calling?
Speaker 5: How many of which of.
Speaker 4: The How long can you talk about him like this
Speaker 4: before he started calling?
Speaker 7: Because he owes me a lot of money, so he's
Speaker 7: in the book. Everyone's like, you didn't change his name.
Speaker 7: I'm like, no, motherfuck owes me money. So I'm hoping
Speaker 7: it gets back to him. NAIs where he ashamed and
Speaker 7: his new girl is like, enough, give this bitch her money.
Speaker 2: Something that says iris, biscuits, gravy.
Speaker 4: Wow, wow, can I have an acting question? We're just
Speaker 4: all over there, so we're talking about all these auditions
Speaker 4: that you had did you didn't get picked for. However,
Speaker 4: there is like a role that was a big deal
Speaker 4: I remember at the time that you got and that
Speaker 4: was on Friends. Oh yes, can you talk about that
Speaker 4: a little bit in the process of struggling.
Speaker 7: So what was crazy is I had just been on
Speaker 7: I was was regular on a show called City of Angels, right,
Speaker 7: so on CBS. I was playing a surgeon and Blair
Speaker 7: Underwood was on the show and Hill Harper and it
Speaker 7: was this amazing experience and we got canceled. Let's say
Speaker 7: we got canceled on a Tuesday, and I got the
Speaker 7: Friends job on a Friday. But the people associated with Friends,
Speaker 7: not the actual cast, but the production just thought, I
Speaker 7: don't know if she was around as much. But yeah,
Speaker 7: like the day to day people at that it was
Speaker 7: like season one hundred and ten at this point, but
Speaker 7: they thought I was just like some chick off the street,
Speaker 7: like I had no experience.
Speaker 5: So they would be like, Gabrielle, do you know where
Speaker 5: your mark is?
Speaker 4: They didn't even read jo No, it was weird.
Speaker 2: So I was like, yep, yep, wow.
Speaker 7: But it was this idea that like, I don't know
Speaker 7: and I'd been in like I'd had how many number
Speaker 7: one hit movies at that point, Like it wasn't like
Speaker 7: I didn't I just came out of nowhere.
Speaker 5: But for that world, it was it didn't count.
Speaker 4: Did the actors know who you are? Did Joey and freaking.
Speaker 5: In the on the show?
Speaker 7: But I mean by that time it was such a
Speaker 7: well oiled machine. They had gotten it down to like
Speaker 7: a three or four day work week, so you got
Speaker 7: in and got out. So no, I wasn't really interacting
Speaker 7: with them in that kind of way.
Speaker 4: But were you the first black woman was used to
Speaker 4: I can know.
Speaker 7: So I usually came after me. I was like the
Speaker 7: experiment to make sure like the world and brought like
Speaker 7: the same role like where they were fighting over. But
Speaker 7: I had made a joke on the View Everything happens
Speaker 7: at the View. I made a joke at the View
Speaker 7: that I didn't realize I had. I was the Rosa
Speaker 7: Parks of Mussy TV, you know, kind of joking like
Speaker 7: how is it that you're in like season nine in
Speaker 7: New York where there's like no black people, Asians, anybody.
Speaker 7: And I got a call from NBC and apparently someone
Speaker 7: had gone through every frame of every episode and counted
Speaker 7: the black people with lines and it.
Speaker 5: So they were like, I'm dead fucking and they were like, what.
Speaker 7: You can say is that you are the first African
Speaker 7: American love interest on Friends.
Speaker 4: Bullshit. I still like I watched every episode.
Speaker 7: Sherry Shepherd. Cherry Shepherd worked at the museums that were
Speaker 7: she worked.
Speaker 4: All right, that was one episode.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 6: All right, yeah, man, okay, I have like a lot
Speaker 6: of Bring it On questions. Well, I mean, so, what
Speaker 6: was what was it like for you, like auditioning for that?
Speaker 6: And like how did they see that?
Speaker 7: I didn't have to audition, so I'd done enough teen
Speaker 7: movies and maybe they saw the Uncle Sam video. I'm
Speaker 7: not sure, Child to a Beautiful Swan. No, so I
Speaker 7: they'd asked me to be a part of the table
Speaker 7: read for that, and at the time the movie was
Speaker 7: called cheer Fever and all the changed that, but most
Speaker 7: of us who did the table read ended up doing
Speaker 7: the movie, and so by the time we started filming
Speaker 7: it was called Bring It On. And the toros came
Speaker 7: down like I want to say, six seven, eight weeks
Speaker 7: early to learn all the routines and everything they gave
Speaker 7: me in Black nine days to learn. Really it was
Speaker 7: like y'all got this, yeah, but it was it sucked
Speaker 7: because like with for Black, they had been on tour
Speaker 7: non stop, and they went right from a tour where
Speaker 7: they were touring with en Sync to filming and they
Speaker 7: were just over it all, you know what I mean,
Speaker 7: And they were exhausted, and so I had to put
Speaker 7: my big sister draws on and I was like, let's
Speaker 7: get some fake id's girls. Let's go to Tijuana.
Speaker 2: Damn you.
Speaker 4: Now I couldn't get them fake id's. It was.
Speaker 5: It was kind of hard in San Diego, but getting
Speaker 5: across the border not so tough. Not so tough at
Speaker 5: that time.
Speaker 7: But we had a fucking blast, Like it was the
Speaker 7: movie we all did because we didn't get the cheerleading
Speaker 7: movie of our dreams. So like the cheerleading movie that
Speaker 7: everyone thought was going to be the big hit with
Speaker 7: Sugar and Spice, the cheerleading cheerleading bank robbing movie.
Speaker 4: I remember moving is that four girls.
Speaker 5: There were like twelve girls.
Speaker 7: It was a gang, and none of them they were like,
Speaker 7: out of all of these roles, I'm like, not one
Speaker 7: can be black.
Speaker 5: And they're like, ah, they're so.
Speaker 4: No oh Mina sorvino yea.
Speaker 7: So we were all kind of and then Kirsten wanted
Speaker 7: save the Last Dance and she didn't get that. So
Speaker 7: it was kind of like the Constellation Prize, you know,
Speaker 7: summer in San Diego filming, you know, this cheerleading movie,
Speaker 7: and we just had a fucking blast.
Speaker 2: I love.
Speaker 4: Said Kirsten wanted to say the last dance.
Speaker 5: Yes, Kirsten was up for save last Dance.
Speaker 4: Julia got it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but Julie, who I was friends with from ten
Speaker 7: Things I Hate about You. Yes, it was such a
Speaker 7: small little teen world, but but yeah, we just had
Speaker 7: it was like a bunch of fucking helliens and we
Speaker 7: had a great time. Elijah Douche crew, great time, great girl.
Speaker 5: We had a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: And that was actually you doing all the.
Speaker 7: Because there was no money for a stunt double. But
Speaker 7: what you notice is there's a lot of tight shots.
Speaker 5: I don't match anybody. They're all doing the position. Ship
Speaker 5: in my ass is like wait, what.
Speaker 7: Like if we were in the Five Heartbeats, you'd be
Speaker 7: quaboy or yeah, it would.
Speaker 5: Have just been I definitely wasn't dressing.
Speaker 4: Now that's combination. I'm not the group yes, I was
Speaker 4: like the fourth member.
Speaker 2: Of Okay, okay, okay, wait is it time for me?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. We used to have c tip dance breaks
Speaker 2: and we haven't done it and we only did it
Speaker 2: once was on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the song we did it to, Don't
Speaker 4: Walk Away.
Speaker 2: He killed it. Met from Jade in Chicago, like last year?
Speaker 5: Is that the Braces?
Speaker 2: She was the light skinned one braces? She was super cool.
Speaker 2: She was she was super cool.
Speaker 5: What I need to know?
Speaker 9: What?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 5: What I need updates?
Speaker 2: She's I think she's living in Chicago, I think.
Speaker 6: And she's just like writing and I think she's I mean,
Speaker 6: she was cool, like I don't think she's still music, Yeah,
Speaker 6: still in music.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's she's chilling.
Speaker 7: I love when I see like you know from you
Speaker 7: know and somewhere yeah, or just different, just they've segued
Speaker 7: into something. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I love that. We interviewed Patric Russian earlier. I felt that, yes,
Speaker 4: everything forget me, but who's saying you make my love
Speaker 4: for them? She settled for your love, settle forgive me,
Speaker 4: not forgive me, and I want you to remember. But
Speaker 4: she's also with the music record for Mad Show.
Speaker 2: Be doing too many references.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna give you a little time cut close.
Speaker 1: Yea, we were singing at this morning. He was saying, well,
Speaker 1: first we'll first cut. We were saying nobody, nobody, because
Speaker 1: that's the thing like me. And then I brought up.
Speaker 2: Can I tell you all right? We're just going all
Speaker 2: over the place.
Speaker 1: What honored was DJ and your wedding and the fact
Speaker 1: that you reunited guide.
Speaker 2: That was watch yo her wedding, Oh my God like
Speaker 2: coming to America lit like yes, she love God.
Speaker 4: Love though because that's not inappropriate right?
Speaker 2: What was okay? What was the wedding for us boundaries?
Speaker 4: That's like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: What was the jam?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: What was your winnings on?
Speaker 4: What was okay?
Speaker 7: Well we came we came down to John Legend. We
Speaker 7: had actually John no because that was the summer of
Speaker 7: all of Me, So we switched it up. So what
Speaker 7: we had was this old black man playing the piano
Speaker 7: and he was started the beginning chorus of all of
Speaker 7: Me and we have John come out and tap him
Speaker 7: on the tap him on the back.
Speaker 2: I think I got this and then he who organized
Speaker 2: because it was like a movie.
Speaker 4: You of course, the executive producer.
Speaker 7: He does one on his shoulder and then and then
Speaker 7: he'sted singing the with the other one.
Speaker 5: No, no, the other freaking song. Christy's in the video,
Speaker 5: Why am I drawing a blank?
Speaker 2: She is all of me? It's not all of me? Uh,
Speaker 2: it's a piano ballot.
Speaker 5: Yes, And and he was like it again. It was
Speaker 5: like it was the hit after all of me.
Speaker 9: I was, I'm looking now, okay, So if it was
Speaker 9: drawing a blank, wait, this is editing is great.
Speaker 2: So all of me, love me now, love me?
Speaker 4: Now, you and I you and I.
Speaker 2: Isn't that? How does that she's in the video?
Speaker 5: Is that how it kind of starts?
Speaker 4: I don't know, you want to.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know the beginning.
Speaker 1: I just know because it's one on the list after him,
Speaker 1: after that one on on his Wikipedia page.
Speaker 5: So yeah, that's it's one of those.
Speaker 7: So he comes in and plays and then yeah, so
Speaker 7: then we did everything in sections. So we had that
Speaker 7: part of the beginning part of the wedding. You know,
Speaker 7: we came out and there was like the Coming to
Speaker 7: America dancers that came over this hill and you know,
Speaker 7: and then he comes out and I come down.
Speaker 5: And then and then the reception.
Speaker 7: We come into the wedding reception to Calid and uh
Speaker 7: uh Luda, all I do is when when when we
Speaker 7: but Luda did his verse as we were like walking in,
Speaker 7: it was there. And then uh so as we were
Speaker 7: leaving the reception, we had a big choir, a big
Speaker 7: black choir that started singing God, and they led us
Speaker 7: from the reception into the jute joint.
Speaker 5: So we did basically the nobody know that the upper.
Speaker 2: Room you watched them movies, justus, motherfucker.
Speaker 7: So we walked we they walk us in and so
Speaker 7: they burst through the doors, you know, the crier burst
Speaker 7: the doors and guy, I forget what their first the
Speaker 7: first thing they were playing.
Speaker 4: It was it would either been piece of My Love
Speaker 4: grove me I like one of their face.
Speaker 7: We dont negotiated four songs and then somewhere in the
Speaker 7: middle of the set, Aaron Hall said, uh, I know ya, I.
Speaker 5: Want to hear it's the Maarn Hall and Teddy Riley
Speaker 5: was like, what the fuck?
Speaker 4: Teddy and Teddy and Teddy Riley and.
Speaker 2: Damien.
Speaker 5: They got up, walked, they left the stage.
Speaker 7: Aaron performed, then they came back saying their hits, their
Speaker 7: Black Street hits, and we ended up getting like the
Speaker 7: ten songs because your set started late.
Speaker 4: Two songs, because how many songs?
Speaker 2: You don't be afraid.
Speaker 1: And I miss you myiod find out he did get
Speaker 1: a little freaky tonight, get a little for you to
Speaker 1: me would get a little fig with all the places
Speaker 1: I would you.
Speaker 2: Yes, I know your R and B. No, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know who are you? You know what it is.
Speaker 1: I think being Steve. I think being being in Voodoo
Speaker 1: jail for five years just totally took.
Speaker 2: Us out of commission. I missed all the greasy R
Speaker 2: and B I did. We were listening to some pretty
Speaker 2: good from ninety five to two thousand. We were stuck
Speaker 2: in the time ship. Two thousand, Yeah, that was that
Speaker 2: good army. When niggas was singing with water on their
Speaker 2: chest twelve next yet next, Yeah, ideal and profile and
Speaker 2: all of that.
Speaker 1: I said, I almost wow, Wow, I ruined it because
Speaker 1: I did not have or nor did I I know.
Speaker 5: Uh uh Brod was making suggestions I didn't have hot.
Speaker 1: Boy, but oh yeah, that was like damn near all
Speaker 1: the cavaliers and Kevin Hart like Yo play play hot
Speaker 1: boy and I'm like, I was.
Speaker 2: Like, baby, and.
Speaker 4: I was like, you need a hot boy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where I was. And I was like, they
Speaker 2: just looked at me like and.
Speaker 5: I want the Spinners.
Speaker 7: Like so it's like we had you know, this is
Speaker 7: what happens when you marry a man almost ten years
Speaker 7: you know, ten years younger, and then his teammates are
Speaker 7: like almost ten years younger than him.
Speaker 4: Oh you know what I mean. So that's frustrating a
Speaker 4: little bit.
Speaker 5: It can be because I was like, so, who wants
Speaker 5: to come to the Hall of Oates concert.
Speaker 2: I'll go to a Hall of those concerts.
Speaker 5: I just made him come with me, maybe like a
Speaker 5: month ago.
Speaker 4: He knew the songs, he just didn't know how much
Speaker 4: he loved.
Speaker 7: Them to know him because I forced him to listen,
Speaker 7: like in the car, like he knows the Spinners because
Speaker 7: I've forced him to listen to it.
Speaker 4: But I'll be like, who is this freaky valley in
Speaker 4: the four seas?
Speaker 6: Yes, I've given up that battle, oh with with your Yeah,
Speaker 6: because you're dating your younger She don't.
Speaker 4: She's a little young like she I mean.
Speaker 2: There's a three in the left digit of her age.
Speaker 4: She looks good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she looks good, you said, I'm sorry, Yeah, trying
Speaker 2: to bring her out a bit on myself. No, I know,
Speaker 2: I don't want to bring on the show because everything
Speaker 2: ain't for sale. Yeah, you do. Got to bring around
Speaker 2: your family. You got to bring around man. Yeah, got
Speaker 2: you at your countertops.
Speaker 4: You don't know she's a sister to Sorry, no, I
Speaker 4: would put that together.
Speaker 2: That's not news, nigga is don't know that's the perception
Speaker 2: in your head.
Speaker 7: Okay, Well, only because I know. I mean, he has
Speaker 7: dated a couple of my friends and they are both black.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, dog again, there must be I've only
Speaker 4: known him twenty some years.
Speaker 2: What do I know? Because I don't let you know everything.
Speaker 4: I know you hide him. It's good, hide this one,
Speaker 4: and I like her.
Speaker 2: I'm not hurting nobody. I just he wasn't hiding you.
Speaker 2: I'm I I wouldn't hide you from the world. I
Speaker 2: was heard had the world from you from Drake talking
Speaker 2: about it's falling offs. Man, this is perfect. Shooting the
Speaker 2: ship with Gabriel Union. This is fucking dope.
Speaker 6: Yo, I really think, man, I don't know, like because
Speaker 6: because I'm not I mean, I watched like your moving up,
Speaker 6: but like I don't I don't follow like the gossip
Speaker 6: blogs and stuff, so I really didn't know that much
Speaker 6: about your life.
Speaker 4: I hated the scripts and I didn't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just feel like this is a side of
Speaker 2: you that people don't get to see because.
Speaker 5: Like you if you follow me or you are like
Speaker 5: even marginally around.
Speaker 4: Right now, like I usually have a cocktail or scientist.
Speaker 2: Dupre Yeah, okay, look, you getting pulled over.
Speaker 1: I don't want to slightly open a door, and we
Speaker 1: have a limited time left, so you know, I do
Speaker 1: want to talk about, uh, what's happening now. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: as far as no, no, no, I mean, because I
Speaker 1: know that you're you're for a while, there was a
Speaker 1: sisterhood gathering of the me too.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 4: I was like, wait what, I don't know what you're
Speaker 4: talking about our group chat.
Speaker 1: In the group chat, sir, No, okay, I didn't go there,
Speaker 1: but I just mean, like, yes, where at the time
Speaker 1: when you guys were you know, where it was deep
Speaker 1: into Harvey's situation and whatnot. There was like okay, let's
Speaker 1: take action rosters. And now it's like four or five
Speaker 1: months later, has anything significant come you know, from the
Speaker 1: gathering or is.
Speaker 7: It just like I think, because it made the conversation
Speaker 7: so much wider, you know what I mean. I've been
Speaker 7: doing this work for shit. I've been out about being
Speaker 7: a sexual assault survivor for almost twenty five years, you know.
Speaker 7: To Ronna Burke, she's been you know, in the movement
Speaker 7: ground you know, ground floor for fifteen twenty years. So
Speaker 7: for those of us who've been doing the work, it's
Speaker 7: not a new conversation, but trying to reach as many
Speaker 7: people as as we as needed to be reached, who
Speaker 7: needed help, healing and justice. We just weren't reaching as
Speaker 7: all the people that needed us. So with the Times
Speaker 7: of Movement and Me Too movement, the conversation is worldwide.
Speaker 7: So people are are feeling strengthened and heard and seen
Speaker 7: to be able to share their their truth and.
Speaker 2: Some of that.
Speaker 7: Sometimes that leads to justice. Sometimes that leads to a
Speaker 7: safer work environment. Sometimes it leads to having conversations where
Speaker 7: people know it's like, please don't pull your dick out,
Speaker 7: like not appropriate, not appropriate in the office, Like I
Speaker 7: don't want to be making copies with your dick next
Speaker 7: to me, Like stop it. So it's starting to help
Speaker 7: people police themselves in work environments of what is reasonable
Speaker 7: and what is unreasonable because so much of so much
Speaker 7: unreasonable behavior was not even spoken about. You just took it,
Speaker 7: especially if you were in a subordinate position, and so
Speaker 7: everyone thought that that shit was normal, and it's not normal.
Speaker 5: It's never it never has been.
Speaker 7: So now that the conversation is more out there and
Speaker 7: people know that there are consequences to the bullshit, it's
Speaker 7: starting to help people behave a bit better and people
Speaker 7: know that there are consequences.
Speaker 1: Do you feel a personal like uh difference in it
Speaker 1: or is it just people saying Okay, I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: mean that. Don't you know, like are they slow to
Speaker 1: joke around you or anything.
Speaker 7: I think there's slow to joke period, like inappropriate jokes,
Speaker 7: like even in Hollywood, where I mean we make a
Speaker 7: living off of, you know, inappropriate things and being able
Speaker 7: to be free sort of.
Speaker 5: But there's a there's a there's a line between being
Speaker 5: funny and being racist.
Speaker 7: There's a line between being funny and subjecting your coworkers
Speaker 7: to your fucking dick. There's a line between like offering
Speaker 7: opportunity and offering opportunity coupled with your dick, Like there's
Speaker 7: a fucking difference and like this gray area that people
Speaker 7: keep like, but what about it? It's like, no, motherfucker,
Speaker 7: you know, this isn't like rocket science. You've just known
Speaker 7: that so many other people have gotten away with it,
Speaker 7: and now we're just not letting everyone get away with it.
Speaker 7: And there's still so much more work to be done.
Speaker 7: And there's because there's so much anytime someone comes out,
Speaker 7: this idea that victims become fucking famous for telling their
Speaker 7: truth is bullshit And nobody wants to be famous for
Speaker 7: this shit. You want the shit to stop. You want
Speaker 7: to be able to go to work, do your shit,
Speaker 7: create cool shit, and go the fuck home, you know
Speaker 7: what I mean, Like you don't want to be followed
Speaker 7: or harassed or subjective to bullshit.
Speaker 5: You want to do your shit and get the fuck home.
Speaker 7: And I think now people are a little bit more
Speaker 7: conscientious of the shit that's probably actually in their you know,
Speaker 7: rule books. You know they know where the HR department
Speaker 7: is if they didn't before.
Speaker 6: How do you think the asia R Gentle situation is
Speaker 6: affecting it or what effect do you think you will
Speaker 6: have on the movement.
Speaker 5: I think it's it's.
Speaker 7: It's it's unfortunate that she took a leadership position knowing
Speaker 7: she had she had hurt a child. So in that sense,
Speaker 7: she's hurting her herself and she hurt because she hurt
Speaker 7: a child, and she's paying a consequence.
Speaker 2: For the record, she's categorically denying that that happened.
Speaker 4: The video, the.
Speaker 5: Picture she at she admitted that ship and you know, n.
Speaker 4: So down did we have to do like I mean,
Speaker 4: not we but amongst the women in the leadership, does
Speaker 4: that have to be a conversation of all right girl,
Speaker 4: so y'all good? Right. The thing is, it's a leadership.
Speaker 7: It's a leaderless movement, except there are people who are
Speaker 7: sort of elective elected by If you're doing an interview,
Speaker 7: you know, for your movie or whatever, and somebody asked
Speaker 7: you a question about you know, me too and times
Speaker 7: up then and I and I answer it, they'll be
Speaker 7: like Gabrielle Union leader of you know, I'm like, no,
Speaker 7: I'm answering question. But because you know, she was, she
Speaker 7: was sort of putting herself in a position of leadership
Speaker 7: because like.
Speaker 4: Rose McGowan is a face that you might say, okay,
Speaker 4: I know it's not a leadership. But she is definitely
Speaker 4: a face.
Speaker 5: She's she's she's very much in the forefront.
Speaker 7: So yeah, so you would think if you are going
Speaker 7: to be in the forefront, that you shouldn't make payments
Speaker 7: to you know, to a you know, damn it sung
Speaker 7: around with a kid. But no, I mean, and and
Speaker 7: also that hurt people hurt people, you know, not all
Speaker 7: not obviously not all hurt people hurt people, but you know,
Speaker 7: unfortunately sometimes you know, people who have been abused go
Speaker 7: on to abuse other people, and at some point we
Speaker 7: have to be accountable for our behavior and face consequences.
Speaker 4: Do you really think now that we now we're talking
Speaker 4: about the resurgence of Louis k and whatnot, and when
Speaker 4: it comes to Hollywood, because maybe on you know, in
Speaker 4: other industries, I feel like there may be more consequences,
Speaker 4: but in Hollywood it seems like, let's just give it
Speaker 4: six months, or let's give it a year, just lay back. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean maybe Kevin's I'm thinking.
Speaker 7: I think that's a wrap for him. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 7: he got a standing ovation. So if you were, if
Speaker 7: you were one of the chicks that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I heard it on his new his stand
Speaker 2: up or he did a set.
Speaker 7: So I mean, what I you know, just from social media,
Speaker 7: that's just what I've I've been when I'm not tweeting
Speaker 7: the boy from to all the boys I've loved before. Yeah, no,
Speaker 7: I I I saw that he went up after being
Speaker 7: gone with eight months and got it before he spoke
Speaker 7: a word, got a standing ovation. So just thinking from
Speaker 7: the space of one of the five women. Out of
Speaker 7: five women, he asked all five if he could masturbate
Speaker 7: in front of them. Three said no, two said yes
Speaker 7: or but there were women who said no, I'm cool
Speaker 7: no and still proceeded to do that. So if you're
Speaker 7: one of those women, and then when they went on
Speaker 7: to talk about him masturbating.
Speaker 5: He derailed their careers.
Speaker 4: So that's your career.
Speaker 7: That is a long consequence for speaking out about and
Speaker 7: not even speaking to the media. Is just speaking to
Speaker 7: other people like, Yo, this motherfucker like whacked off while
Speaker 7: I was sitting there. You know what I mean, what
Speaker 7: message does that send if you're them, Well, we're not living.
Speaker 4: In a world that cares about them right now, right
Speaker 4: Like doesn't you think you have all about Well.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but that was just a big fuck you to me.
Speaker 7: I mean, like just the way, and I think a
Speaker 7: lot of people sort of felt that way. And then
Speaker 7: you know, I'm scrolling through the comments, it was like, well,
Speaker 7: how long or what was his name?
Speaker 5: What's his name?
Speaker 7: Michael Ian Black? He kind of came stepped up and
Speaker 7: came to Lewis e K's defense. It was like, well,
Speaker 7: on the other side of this METO movement, with these
Speaker 7: men who have been you know, sort of out it
Speaker 7: as you know, exhibiting shitty behavior, how do we get
Speaker 7: how do how do they get on the road to redemption?
Speaker 7: And how long should they? And you know, and the
Speaker 7: response categorically was I don't fucking know, I don't fucking care,
Speaker 7: Like it's not long enough. And maybe a standing ovation
Speaker 7: before he said a word, much less publicly from the stage,
Speaker 7: you know, addressed it again or taking public steps to
Speaker 7: whatever it is. But I think a lot of people
Speaker 7: feel very strongly about.
Speaker 2: Also say I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'll say that the audience at the Comedy Seller is
Speaker 1: beyond Bridge and Tunnel like usually it's it's like a
Speaker 1: touristy spot, a lot of people from out the country
Speaker 1: and that sort of thing. So I almost think that
Speaker 1: their borderline like not connected I'm not even trying to
Speaker 1: man explain or quest plain it.
Speaker 4: No you're not. No, you're not explaining anything. I get
Speaker 4: what you're saying, but it just doesn't make any sense
Speaker 4: because they went to see him.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, like you go.
Speaker 1: You go to the Comedy Cellar, hoping is a place
Speaker 1: where the big names go to practice a set to
Speaker 1: see if this material works in that so any night
Speaker 1: could be Chris Rock, Jerry Seinfeld.
Speaker 2: So I went.
Speaker 7: Chris called when he was putting his act together, the
Speaker 7: last act together, and he's like, Yo, come come see
Speaker 7: you know, I'm going to go up to at the
Speaker 7: at the Comedy Cellar and I'd never been. I had
Speaker 7: no idea where it was, and it's so dark in there.
Speaker 7: I was sitting in the back. I couldn't tell you
Speaker 7: what the crowd looked like because all I could see
Speaker 7: is him on the stage and then you know, the
Speaker 7: crowd is pretty dark from where I was sitting, So
Speaker 7: I couldn't even tell you the type of phograph.
Speaker 5: I would have no idea.
Speaker 1: But usually it's it's you know, Germans visiting New York
Speaker 1: for the summer, like that's sort of thing.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, So it.
Speaker 4: Wasn't like, I'm curious, what are you guys.
Speaker 7: It's like, you know, two women and four guys, Like,
Speaker 7: what do you guys think of the Me Too?
Speaker 2: Movement?
Speaker 1: I think it's right, well not right on time, it's overdue. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, this shit's wrong and something needs to be
Speaker 1: done about it. So let's do something about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well no, no, at least the conversations I've had with you,
Speaker 1: I know that we've spoken at length about you know,
Speaker 1: are do the women in the movement understand that women
Speaker 1: of color having going through this way longer and harsher.
Speaker 2: With everything, with the page gap and and you know,
Speaker 2: everything that comes with it.
Speaker 1: And so I almost feel as though if for to
Speaker 1: truly be a movement, there has to be a universal
Speaker 1: understanding of all the components involved.
Speaker 7: You know, yeah, some do, some don't, you know, some
Speaker 7: some you know, like when you think of Hollywood, you
Speaker 7: have to look at it as like any community. So
Speaker 7: there's there's the very very wealthy who live in the
Speaker 7: big game engines, and then there's the people who live
Speaker 7: in in you know, government subsidized housing. You know, like
Speaker 7: regular working actors who will never be famous. They just
Speaker 7: love what they do, and you know, generally have second
Speaker 7: and third jobs. But all of these people are part
Speaker 7: of part of the movement. The people in the gay
Speaker 7: communities are not going to be relating to the struggle
Speaker 7: of a working actor and the basic things that working
Speaker 7: actors are fighting for, like like insurance and health care
Speaker 7: and you know, basic rights.
Speaker 5: So it's not that they're uneducated per se, it's more
Speaker 5: of it's not my reality.
Speaker 7: So the ship I'm fighting for I want to make
Speaker 7: what Mark Wahlberg makes, and we're like, wait, what, Yeah,
Speaker 7: it's yeah, it's it's it's such a massive they're just
Speaker 7: totally different conversations.
Speaker 4: But yes, I think everyone's.
Speaker 1: Yes, but it's is it doing more harm if there's
Speaker 1: not an understanding it? And are you the type that's
Speaker 1: willing to let them know in a very clear manner
Speaker 1: without you.
Speaker 5: Know, I've never been one to hold my tongue.
Speaker 1: So when you when you respond, when you when you respond,
Speaker 1: is it more like radio silence from your sisterhood or
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 7: I think people are more concerned wanting to know more
Speaker 7: about what I'm feeling than you know, what I may
Speaker 7: communicate via a text, so I'll get a call be like, okay,
Speaker 7: help me understand what what what? What exactly you want
Speaker 7: me to convey to the larger group, because I'll talk
Speaker 7: to certain individuals as a postse to like full thread,
Speaker 7: you know, threads of people or whatever. But no, I
Speaker 7: don't think anyone's ever really confused by what I say.
Speaker 5: I'm very clear.
Speaker 7: I'm like, listen, if your movement is not intersectional, and
Speaker 7: you are not centering the most marginalized among us, then
Speaker 7: it's a moment.
Speaker 5: It's not a fucking movement. I'm not interested in a moment.
Speaker 7: I'm too old. I'm too I'm too tired. I've been through,
Speaker 7: I've been too way too much shit. So for if
Speaker 7: I'm actually going to participate in something, we are going
Speaker 7: to center the most vulnerable of us, and that's not you.
Speaker 7: So hand over the microphone, push away from the desk,
Speaker 7: pull some other chairs up, and let somebody else talk.
Speaker 6: I think it has to be I think it has
Speaker 6: to be like you know, when you ask you know
Speaker 6: what we thoughts from moving where. I think it has
Speaker 6: to be some kind of I don't know if just
Speaker 6: it has to be some kind of definition as to
Speaker 6: what is what. So for me, when I saw it,
Speaker 6: it was like I compared it to almost kind of
Speaker 6: like in American gangster Gizell when he was talking about like, Yo,
Speaker 6: this is blue magic, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 6: it's like, this is my package, Like I stand behind
Speaker 6: I guarantee it. If you want to cut the ship
Speaker 6: and call it something else, fine, but don't call this
Speaker 6: shit blue magic, you know what I mean. That was
Speaker 6: kind of my thoughts on just like when when it
Speaker 6: first happened, and like first the Harvey shit broke and
Speaker 6: like everybody was like holy shit, you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean.
Speaker 6: It was like yo, like that's a fucking package. But
Speaker 6: then like disease, I'm sorry, shit, it was just.
Speaker 2: Like you feel me. It was you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean to me, until a lot of people it
Speaker 2: was just like.
Speaker 6: Like okay, like like the Harvey stuff, like a lot
Speaker 6: of the other the stories like that was like clear
Speaker 6: cut AsSalt, like that was like that was just black
Speaker 6: and white.
Speaker 4: But isn't that the process? And the oh, it was
Speaker 4: like that's the process, just like you got an Asia Argento,
Speaker 4: like this is something new and everything is not one hundred.
Speaker 4: We got to learn the balance and the.
Speaker 2: Skalets would be on the road to Harvey had he not.
Speaker 4: Been No, no, no, I'm just saying that, for lack
Speaker 4: of a better term, mistakes will happen, some things will
Speaker 4: fall between the cracks, like there will be some misunderstand
Speaker 4: Like that's gonna happen, It's gonna be an disease. But
Speaker 4: if as long as it's you know, ninety.
Speaker 6: Ten, I just with the AZ just in that in particular,
Speaker 6: I'm like back to just the blue maginology. You can
Speaker 6: call that whatever you want, but if I'm the leader
Speaker 6: of that movement, I'm like, yo, you can't call that.
Speaker 2: Shit me too.
Speaker 5: No leader, but there's no leader, no leader.
Speaker 6: I'm just saying, if see but you feel me like
Speaker 6: I'm speaking in how fucking product with that bullshit?
Speaker 1: The problem is also, you know, the problems that I've
Speaker 1: had with it are like, say a publication like Time
Speaker 1: magazine will decide and cherry pick who they feel will
Speaker 1: sell more magazines for the movement right now. When they
Speaker 1: did it last year, and you know, I saw certain
Speaker 1: people on there, I was like, wait.
Speaker 2: A minute, come on, Like.
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't think it should be like
Speaker 1: the prizes or like who's the most victimized or that
Speaker 1: sort of.
Speaker 6: Thing, and that's kind of what it becomes, though at
Speaker 6: least it seems to me it becomes like the Olympics
Speaker 6: of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the way that they portrayed it was just like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well we'll pick these four particular ones because they're big
Speaker 1: box office draws, right.
Speaker 2: And we'll use them as that. And then.
Speaker 1: You know, that's sort of where I was like, Ah, this,
Speaker 1: this is where it gets ruined. But does it need
Speaker 1: a leader?
Speaker 7: I mean, it's like civil rights movement, right, there's so
Speaker 7: many of us who all have different ideas about or
Speaker 7: had different ideas about civil rights and how best to
Speaker 7: get them. There is the Martin Luther King, but you
Speaker 7: know more you know, nonviolent movement, and then they're you know,
Speaker 7: Black Panther, you know Malcolm X. I think you you
Speaker 7: align yourself with whose route matches your ideologies. So I
Speaker 7: don't think there has to be one leader or if
Speaker 7: the goal is liberty, I think there's many paths to that,
Speaker 7: and you you either you lead or you follow who
Speaker 7: best speaks to your needs and your desires and where
Speaker 7: you see the change you want to see.
Speaker 2: So how do you handle somebody?
Speaker 6: So how do you address that in the context of
Speaker 6: somebody like Nick Parker who was found not guilty in
Speaker 6: a court of law.
Speaker 2: But still you know.
Speaker 4: He pre me too though he pre me too well.
Speaker 2: I mean, well he will he.
Speaker 6: No, no, that movie like fucking like he yeah, he
Speaker 6: for that ship, that ship thanks and so like yeah,
Speaker 6: so how do you like reconcile that?
Speaker 2: I mean and you work with him? So but which
Speaker 2: was even more fun because it's like, yo, he was convicted.
Speaker 4: He was trying not about the We didn't care about that.
Speaker 2: How could you but see what that's fucked up?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying in a sense of we're
Speaker 4: not gonna not We're not. I don't think a lot
Speaker 4: of sisters was like, we ain't gonna support this movie
Speaker 4: because we think that he did that. That wasn't the system.
Speaker 4: That was kind of nah said, that wasn't the sustance
Speaker 4: that you can But I'll tell you that I wasn't
Speaker 4: the system.
Speaker 6: Is No, it was not, Listen, I was. I am
Speaker 6: a frequent black Twitter Power user like Nigga. I got
Speaker 6: the deluxe package like it was so many fucking Oh
Speaker 6: he's canceled, he trashed and I'm like, yo, how is
Speaker 6: a man who was put on trial for potentially raping
Speaker 6: a white one.
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on. Before you get finished that, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna say one thing. R Kelly. Okay, well that's court
Speaker 2: of law. And he was not convicted. He was trying
Speaker 2: to go. But in the case of all Kelly, I
Speaker 2: mean there was a tape that was I mean it was.
Speaker 7: Though, right, Justice isn't wrong right, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 7: But I'm just saying, but you just it was there
Speaker 7: was a tape, but but justice didn't just because I might.
Speaker 2: I might have been again the voodoo hole. Was there
Speaker 2: a trial for R. Kelly? Yeah, there was. There was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was evidence.
Speaker 2: But then but I forgot what it was.
Speaker 1: I think I don't think they allowed the jury to
Speaker 1: watch it or was it like thrown out or mistrial?
Speaker 7: I can't remember because remember they had didn't they have
Speaker 7: to testify, like to break down the parts of the tape,
Speaker 7: and they brought in people to testify to like the
Speaker 7: to the to the.
Speaker 2: Episode and yes, yeah, but they did.
Speaker 1: They didn't come to a verdicant because I remember because
Speaker 1: I went to a wedding that day and we heard
Speaker 1: it on the way to the wedding.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: No, he was found out gives and I think it
Speaker 6: had something to do with the family. Wouldn't testify something
Speaker 6: like that. Yeah, it was, it was something like that.
Speaker 6: It was something like that.
Speaker 2: But that was r Kelly was different.
Speaker 6: And plus, anybody's been in the they been Kelly been
Speaker 6: on some fun ship like that ship ain't new. But
Speaker 6: but in particular with the Nate Parker thing, that was
Speaker 6: a thing where it's like, Okay, this is a guy,
Speaker 6: black man who was on trial again for raping a
Speaker 6: white woman that.
Speaker 2: That angel, that Lily White.
Speaker 4: He married, Like, no, dude, he was.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying like he was.
Speaker 6: He was on trial in fucking like Pennsylvania, Like Pennsylvania
Speaker 6: is Alabama with Philly in it.
Speaker 2: Nigga, Like.
Speaker 6: He's right, Nigga was on trial in Pennsylvania for fucking
Speaker 6: allegedly raven a white woman beat it, found not guilty.
Speaker 6: His homeboy was found guilty. And then and when he
Speaker 6: went in, they later went back and was like, you
Speaker 6: know what, this was bullshit.
Speaker 2: So his on boy got out.
Speaker 6: So this is a guy who was by all the accounts,
Speaker 6: found not guilty something, but he was still fucking like
Speaker 6: raked over the.
Speaker 2: Coldes for that.
Speaker 4: So it's just like my mama said, yeah, he still
Speaker 4: married that white woman, right, And that's that's what I remember,
Speaker 4: and a lot of women's I don't know whatever, but
Speaker 4: what I don't think, I.
Speaker 2: Just that's the movement.
Speaker 4: So it was been for three.
Speaker 7: I mean, I think listen with anything, there's no easy answers,
Speaker 7: Like you know, I was just having this debate. I've
Speaker 7: been a debate speaking facts about the civil rights movement,
Speaker 7: erasure of women and the LGBTQ community who are instrumental
Speaker 7: in the movement that we to this day don't don't
Speaker 7: recognize and acknowledge. James Balbin rested, like, there, I mean,
Speaker 7: but we today it's twenty eighteen, we're acknowledging them. Back
Speaker 7: in the day, you know, it was like do the
Speaker 7: work and we'll reap the benefits, but we will never give.
Speaker 5: You your your your desserts.
Speaker 7: So every no movement is is ideal or perfect or
Speaker 7: with one leader, and it's rarely the wheels of progress
Speaker 7: rarely turn at the rate we want them to, and
Speaker 7: everything is in flux. And if the goal is liberty,
Speaker 7: it's a long road. And it has been a long road,
Speaker 7: you know, especially for us.
Speaker 4: So and that's what I keep feeling out. It's funny
Speaker 4: because as you asked that question, I always say, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm just going to wait until these white women get
Speaker 4: their freedom so I can get mine, just like voting
Speaker 4: and everything they else and with the dollar and everything else,
Speaker 4: because it seems like there's an order to things, no
Speaker 4: matter how much we're involved, it's an order. And that's
Speaker 4: why I have on this shirt protect Black Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's kind of me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't really, Yeah, I just I stay out
Speaker 6: of white people problems. I stay out of white people
Speaker 6: issues because I think, like when you like with your
Speaker 6: shirt protect Black Women, I just think like we have
Speaker 6: issues within our community as black people that we gotta
Speaker 6: handle and we can't talk about our ship in front
Speaker 6: of white people.
Speaker 4: That's it, and that's true conversation. I think what roy
Speaker 4: Wood Jr. Offered at he offered a small good step
Speaker 4: that I thought was good for brothers.
Speaker 2: Oh what niggas calling shit out? Claim?
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you see ship, don't just laugh at it.
Speaker 4: When you see a woman DM being disrespected in a
Speaker 4: room full of dudes, or you just see a period,
Speaker 4: don't just laugh. Don't just be silent, Like, can we
Speaker 4: just start there.
Speaker 6: Oh no, I think and I think we definitely have
Speaker 6: started there. I mean just because well, I mean we
Speaker 6: had Quick. We were talking about Quick. It's just like
Speaker 6: you start to realize at a certain point of your life,
Speaker 6: y'all niggas liabilities, you know what I'm saying, And it's
Speaker 6: like I can't have y'all, I'm not risking what I
Speaker 6: built up because you want to be a fucking dickhead,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So if if nothing else,
Speaker 6: even if you can't get cats to understand it on
Speaker 6: just a human man woman level, just same to like,
Speaker 6: look now, these niggas about to fuck up all your money.
Speaker 6: Like Quick had a six figure check then he had
Speaker 6: to spend on legal fees.
Speaker 2: Think about that.
Speaker 4: It's a shame as you got to make him think
Speaker 4: about that just to respect a woman.
Speaker 2: But I get you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Look listen, I mean listen, you got to meet people
Speaker 6: where they at, you know what I mean, Somebody can
Speaker 6: take them somewhere.
Speaker 4: Lets somebody say, fuck your mama, it's a whole problem,
Speaker 4: Like don't do it to my mama, but do it
Speaker 4: to everybody else.
Speaker 2: If somebody say, if somebody said, like your mom I'm saying, most.
Speaker 4: Men are protective of their mothers. But if you have
Speaker 4: to go all around that to just say no, no, no,
Speaker 4: you got to give them all that extra bullshit just
Speaker 4: to be like respect that one.
Speaker 2: And I agree with you on that.
Speaker 6: I don't think I should have to be like whenever,
Speaker 6: because that's the knee jerk response niggas like, oh man,
Speaker 6: that's somebody mama, that's somebody daughter, that's like a woman
Speaker 6: like she just she's a human fucking being.
Speaker 2: Just if she ain't got no kids, she's still a person,
Speaker 2: like you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: So I agree, Well, it's crazy because it's like we all,
Speaker 7: you know, think but the kids, like you know, that's
Speaker 7: where I draw the line with kids.
Speaker 4: But you see that, no, not at all.
Speaker 7: You see that nine year old boy who comes out
Speaker 7: of who comes out as gay to his his mother,
Speaker 7: his parents, and goes to school and proceeds to get
Speaker 7: bullied for being gay and kills himself. This was just
Speaker 7: a couple of days ago, and you see all over
Speaker 7: social media not let's address the bullying. You know, well,
Speaker 7: how did he know he was gay? Nine years old
Speaker 7: is too young to know you're gay? And really it's
Speaker 7: actually black. But dude, the picture that they show, I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't like red internet comments before the internet.
Speaker 6: Comment is where I did not like sell just I
Speaker 6: you want to give up all hoping human you gumms.
Speaker 7: Like h but you you would think like basic humanity.
Speaker 7: This child has has felt so bullied that he even
Speaker 7: killed himself. Well the kids, the kids, I guess, were
Speaker 7: bullying him, telling him to kill himself, and he like,
Speaker 7: I think it was like day four killed himself. He
Speaker 7: was nine and just watching people do the mental gymnastics
Speaker 7: instead of you know, offering prayers for the boy and
Speaker 7: his family or whatever it was, Why are you forcing
Speaker 7: the gay lifestyle on this boy? And it was like
Speaker 7: the gay lifestyle? Where's the gay lifestyle? Because I think
Speaker 7: I'd like to sign up for it.
Speaker 5: It's, I mean, the gay life. I'm like, what the
Speaker 5: fuck is that?
Speaker 7: This is a child who was bullied, And how about
Speaker 7: we check what the fuck is happening in the in
Speaker 7: the homes of the bullies. What kind of homophobic, transphobic, islamophobic, racist,
Speaker 7: misogynistic bullshit is happening in those homes. Let's let's start there,
Speaker 7: and and how you unleash these little hellions on their
Speaker 7: classmates to say crazy shit to this boy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like not no, I've It's just why I
Speaker 6: think you have to like well, I mean accuse me,
Speaker 6: because people will be people. I mean, no matter who
Speaker 6: you are, whether you're gay, straight, trans, whatever, there's always
Speaker 6: gonna be somebody that just don't fuck with you. So
Speaker 6: like the thing, cause I have to something. My boys
Speaker 6: are seventeen and thirteen, and my thing is just like
Speaker 6: you have to arm them. My thing is about to think.
Speaker 6: My message I tell them is like listen, ninety percent
Speaker 6: of people shit ninety five ninety nine percent of people
Speaker 6: are just all taught. So if you can make yourself
Speaker 6: and build yourself up mentally to where you're immune to words,
Speaker 6: then you're fucking bulletproof cause you ain't gotta They not
Speaker 6: gonna do shit.
Speaker 2: They talking because they ain't gonna do nothing. So you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: If you people say and they say fuck, they want
Speaker 6: to say like they's talking because that's all they can do.
Speaker 6: So I think it starts. I've just always been a
Speaker 6: person of I just try to think in context of
Speaker 6: I can't control what other people do. Whatever, Like phobias,
Speaker 6: they god or they hate they got like, they ain't
Speaker 6: got shit to do with me.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I have to build myself and teach mine to be
Speaker 6: like Listen, it's all kinds. It takes all kinds of
Speaker 6: make up a world. Everybody ain't gonna like you. It's
Speaker 6: gonna be some people that don't want to fuck with
Speaker 6: you for whatever reason. It's my job to give you
Speaker 6: the tools to where you don't even look for that
Speaker 6: person for validation. You whatever you are, whatever you feel like,
Speaker 6: you are, gay, strict, whatever the hell, be confident and
Speaker 6: be and own who you are. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: because if you own who you are, then this other shit,
Speaker 6: these other that's just some puncture. You ain't even got
Speaker 6: to worry about that because you good with who you
Speaker 6: are and if you're good with it, and that's all
Speaker 6: the matter more.
Speaker 2: You know what's that man.
Speaker 6: Finally later.
Speaker 2: To do? Is this how we aim to be going
Speaker 2: out anyway? Yeah, we're gonna fall in the vicious rabbit hole.
Speaker 2: And I know that Queen Union has to be tomorrow.
Speaker 4: What you're doing? What are you doing tomorrow?
Speaker 7: Actually tomorrow morning? I work out every morning at six am,
Speaker 7: so I'm up at five am. But tomorrow is Michael
Speaker 7: Jackson the Michael Jackson Diamond uh celebration.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you're going to go in Vegas?
Speaker 2: Vegas? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Are you going to do?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: No, I got it.
Speaker 4: He got work to do. You're gonna be here with us?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll be celebrating.
Speaker 7: Let me see three t because I'm gonna who took
Speaker 7: the pen out of me?
Speaker 4: Who unpinned me?
Speaker 2: Well? I thank you for coming on the show, guest,
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Fun.
Speaker 4: Before we can, I just ask a blue little question
Speaker 4: because Gab, you know you're always on Twitter promoting. I
Speaker 4: know you just recently had a win in Florida. Yes,
Speaker 4: would you like to promote anything else that you think
Speaker 4: people should be aware of? The get further into closer
Speaker 4: to this November.
Speaker 2: You realize this is not probably not airing until do
Speaker 2: be so we have of a team Supreme Sugar Steve,
Speaker 2: you're still there?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bro, and Uhson about to call you our sideo.
Speaker 2: Bosslle you there.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Thank you appreciate it. I love you,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for finally we made it happen.
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