1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. We're rolling through the 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Monday edition of the program. Buck is in can France. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: He told me his hotel room is nice. Texting with 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: him during the break. He is meeting with a ton 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: of different advertisers over there, as many of them want 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: to be able to reach out to you, and so 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 1: that is where he is this week. I will be 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: with you the rest of today, Tomorrow and Wednesday from 10 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: our nation's capital, and then I'll be back in Nashville 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 1: Thursday Friday. Buck, We'll be back with me on Monday, 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: a week from today. As we are out running around 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: all over the place. You got a lot to talk about. 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: Started off the program saying Happy Father's Day weekend the 15 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: Monday after. I hope all of you had fabulous Father's Day. 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: Yesterday's I went to the National Air and Space Museum 17 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: with my oldest son. We are up here for an internship. 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: That is why I am in DC. We had a 19 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: fabulous time. I talked about that a great deal in 20 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: the opening hour of the program. We also have been 21 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: talking about the big military parade that took place here 22 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: yesterday in DC that I know many of you watched 23 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: over the weekend as that was going on Saturday, the 24 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: No Kings protest. All of that we have discussed. We've 25 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: also been talking about Iran and Israel and the continued 26 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: fallout there. My thanks to Dave Ruman who joined us 27 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: at the bottom of the hour. I told you that 28 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: I would dive in here and open phone lines for 29 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: anybody who disagrees with the argument that I am about 30 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: to lay out about why responding to Iran is in 31 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: very much US interest eight hundred and two two eight 32 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: A two Okay, So Buck and I were in the 33 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: Oval Office on Thursday a couple of hours before with 34 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Jd. Vance swung by to visit a couple 35 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: of hours before the attack began on Iran by Israel. 36 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: In the ensuing seven days, much of Iran's nuclear capabilities 37 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: have been attacked to a great degree, and overall, I 38 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: would say the Israeli attacks have been unprecedented in their 39 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: substance and their lack of human casualties outside of government 40 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: and military and nuclear arms related connections. That is, there 41 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: have been very few innocent Iranians who have been the 42 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 1: victim of Israel's highly targeted attacks. Meanwhile, Iran has been 43 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: just throwing as many missiles as it can into Israel 44 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: without primarily targeting military related installations. They're just trying to 45 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: kill as many people in Israel as they can, and 46 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: so the attacks as they were on behalf of Israel 47 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: are very targeted on behalf of Iran, they are very haphazard, 48 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: and I think this ties in with the overall story 49 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: and the long march of history. Can be difficult, but 50 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: I do think that we have to contextualize what we 51 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: are now seeing happen in Iran and Israel in the 52 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: wake of what I believe is going to go down 53 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: as one of the most awful decisions ever made by 54 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 1: an attacking party. Ben Shapiro was on with US last week, 55 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: and I think he referred to October seventh, twenty twenty 56 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: three as the Hamas version of Pearl Harbor, and I 57 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: think that is an accurate description. For those of you 58 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: who remember your history. Winston Churchill had been doing everything 59 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: he could to get the new world that is US 60 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: in the United States, to save the old world that 61 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: is Europe for Adolf Hitler. But until Japan attacked US 62 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: on December seventh, nineteen forty one. America had avoided entering 63 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: into World War Two. We did not want to make 64 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: that fight our own, not seek it until we were 65 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: attacked in a sneak attack on December seventh, nineteen forty one, 66 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: and that was when FDR decided we have to go 67 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: to war. And that was effectively, even though it was 68 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: an incredibly successful attack on our Pacific fleet, that was 69 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: effectively Japan and Germany signing their death warrants in that war, 70 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: and we would go on to liberate all of Europe 71 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: and be a unique force of good. I believe October seven, 72 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, having traveled over there last December, as 73 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: I have talked about quite a bit, having been to 74 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: the kibbutz's, having been to the north with the border 75 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: with Lebanon, having looked out upon all of Gaza, having 76 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: heard bombs going off in Gaza, having gone to the 77 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: music festival, having been all over Israel, I believe it's 78 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: important to characterize this as a war between good and evil. 79 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: Some of you are going to disagree. You are welcome 80 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: to call in and tell me why I am wrong. 81 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: But to me, having seen all of this myself, October seventh, 82 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. Was Hamas invading Israel solely because they wanted, 83 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: I believe, to stop peace in the Middle East, and 84 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: so they attacked because they were afraid that Saudi Arabia 85 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: was going to normalize relations with Israel through the Abraham Accords, 86 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: which Donald Trump, Jared Kushner and others have worked out. 87 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: And if that were to occur, Hamas would have been 88 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: further isolated. Iran would have been furly further isolated. Hezbolah 89 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: would have been further isolated, and so would Siria. I 90 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: don't know what Hamas thought Israel would do, but Israel 91 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: responded with the force of a thousand lions, and they 92 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: have wreaked havoc. They have wiped out Hamas and their 93 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: Gaza base, They have wiped out Hesbola and their base 94 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: in Lebanon. And Asad has fallen in Syria and he 95 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: has been replaced by a non Iranian fronted government. So 96 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: Iran has been standing alone, rapidly advancing towards obtaining nuclear weapons. 97 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: I don't blame the Ayatola for wanting nuclear weapons, because 98 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: effectively that would allow him to become the North Korea 99 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: of the Middle East, the Kim Jong Un of the 100 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: Middle East. Kim Jong un has nuclear weapons in North 101 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: Korea because otherwise he wouldn't exist. It is a protective 102 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: shield for him. But also as they have continued to 103 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,559 Speaker 1: expand their ballistic missile capabilities, it is an existential threat 104 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: to the world because you have a madman with access 105 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: to nuclear weapons, and what happens if he decides to 106 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: push that button. Lots of us could die. Okay, we 107 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: should have as a general rule in America a policy 108 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: of crazy people shouldn't have nuclear weapons. We should have 109 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: fewer countries that have access to eradicating massive amounts of 110 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: people with one push of a button. Iran was close 111 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: to joining Kim Jong un. I wish personally we could 112 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: take Kim Jung un out. I wish the Koreas could 113 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: be reunited. I think at some point they will, much 114 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: like East and West Germany were. But in the meantime, 115 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: you got a crazy man with nuclear weapons. Why should 116 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: we not stop a country if we can in any 117 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: way assist a country that is led by crazy zealot 118 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: religious leaders from having nuclear weapons. All we have done 119 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: so far is allow Israel to defend itself from what 120 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: it believes is in existent crisis where it could be 121 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: wiped out at any point in time. This is a 122 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: no brainer. Now, I'm not saying that I support American 123 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: soldiers going into Iran. I don't. I think the Iraq 124 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: War was an unmitigated disaster. I think George W. Bush 125 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: and Dick Cheney failed completely in the way that they 126 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: responded to try to tie Iraq into nine to eleven. 127 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: I think Iraq was a mess. Many of you out 128 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: there listening to me right now lost friends and family members. 129 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: We spent trillions of dollars of our American capital, of 130 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: our American blood in a country that had no interest 131 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: in us being there, and we left it, to my measure, 132 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: not much better than it would have been if Saddam Hussein. 133 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: It's they didn't position a power and there were no 134 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: WMDs weapons of mass destruction. That has all been proven 135 00:08:55,000 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: by history. But just because Iraq was a mess and 136 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: we had poor American leadership decisions being made both Democrat 137 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: and Republican when it came to the Iraq War, does 138 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: not mean that Iran is not a threat and that 139 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: the world can't flourish in the Middle East, and that 140 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: the Iranian people don't deserve better leadership. I don't know 141 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: whether we should have Iran decapitated of the Ayatolas. If 142 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: Israel does it, in an ideal world, the Iranian people 143 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: would rise up, they would overthrow the two generation plus 144 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: leadership of the Ayatolas, and in some way they would 145 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: return the royal family that was providing immeasurable amounts of 146 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: freedom to them prior to that nineteen seventy nine revolution. 147 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: And if that were to happen, I think what Trump 148 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: has danger out there too much of the Middle East 149 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: is let's stop fighting over religion. Whether you're a Jew, 150 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: whether you're a Christian, whether you're of the Muslim faith. Heck, 151 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: if you're of the Hindu faith. Let's just build economic 152 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: success regardless of what our religious differences might be. Let's 153 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: allow economic success to lift the global tide of economic growth. 154 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: And I think many of the Middle Eastern countries understand 155 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: that they're sitting on massive amounts of oil. They can 156 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: invest in so many other things and make their country 157 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: not entirely determined on oil, because at some point in time, 158 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how many hundreds of years of oil 159 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia has for instance, maybe it's much less than 160 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: that their economy is going to have to pivot from 161 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: oil to other things. They get it. They're rational leaders, 162 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: They're making rational decisions. Iran's leadership is not If Israel 163 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: put down its weapons today, the country would not exist 164 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: in a week. They would run over Israel, they would 165 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: wipe them out. If every Middle Eastern country put down 166 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: their weapons, we would have peace in the Middle East. 167 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: If we can remove the Aya tolus. I believe that 168 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: peace and prosperity comparatively can flourish once again in the 169 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: Middle East. For the Persian people out there, their history 170 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: is a proud one of strong economic and scientific success 171 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: that has been taken back in time by everything that 172 00:11:52,559 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: has occurred surrounding this last two generations of dictatorial leadership 173 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: by men that won't even let women wear skirts or 174 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: dresses and walk around without full body coverings in the 175 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: hot heat of a desert. The people of Iran do 176 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: not like these leaders. They fear them. But what Israel 177 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: is exposing is that their power is a myth, that 178 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: the generational claim that they were going to be able 179 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: to wipe Israel off the map was a lie. It 180 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,479 Speaker 1: only took a day or two for Israel to completely 181 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: overwhelm all Iranian defenses. If Israel is such a weak 182 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: and misguided country, why are they so technologically superior to Iran, 183 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: a once proud country. It's because Israel has leaned into 184 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: economic growth and basic human rights. I haven't heard a 185 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: lot of people talk about this, but you know, it's 186 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: Pride month. You know what Israel had to do because 187 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: they were being attacked by Iran. Can't all their pride marches. 188 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: It's an awful lot of left wingers in America. How 189 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: many pride marches does the rest of the Middle East have? Any? 190 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: Western civilization brings freedom no matter what your race is, 191 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: no matter what your gender is, no matter what your 192 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: sexuality is. That has still been unequaled throughout the course 193 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: of human history. Civilization, Western ideals on some measure of 194 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: economic growth through capitalism is the true salvation for the 195 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: Iranian people. You can be any religion that you want 196 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: to be, but shouldn't you live in a country that 197 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: is led by people with basic rational decision making that 198 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: lifts up everyone around them instead of trying to tear 199 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: down the Jewish people? And shouldn't America be on the 200 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: side of every country with basic rational, Western style capitalistic values, 201 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: regardless of what the religion underpinning those values might be. 202 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: To me, trump ism is directly correlated with economic freedom 203 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: for every person around the world. And when we can 204 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: provide economic freedom to everyone or anyone, whether they're Saudi, 205 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: whether they're Indian, wherever they are, the ultimate goal, in 206 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: my opinion of American policy should be that every country 207 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: is uplifted through embracing capitalism and basic freedoms and human 208 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: rights around the world. So anytime we can advance that, 209 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: and that's what overthrowing the Iatolas would do. I think 210 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: that is in the very definition of American interest because 211 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:59,479 Speaker 1: a rational capitalists focused Iran would bring way more benefits 212 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: to the average American than the leadership that they have 213 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: right now. Maybe you disagree, you can weigh in eight 214 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: hundred and two two eight two. In the meantime, if 215 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: you're watching NBA NHL finals, boy oh boy, do we 216 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: have two different series that have provided a lot of entertainment, 217 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: especially the NHL. 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I believe, building 237 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: on what I just said, that it is one hundred 238 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: percent in America's best interest for the ayah Tolas to 239 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: be thrown out of power, because what they have shown, 240 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: beyond a shadow of a doubt is if they are 241 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: in power, they are going to attempt to get nuclear weapons, 242 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: and they're going to lie to us, just like they 243 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: lied to Obama, who fell for their lies, just like 244 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 1: they have lied to the Israelis and to us for decades. Now. 245 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: The idea that somehow we're going to replace the Ayatola's 246 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: the a goal of nuclear weapons without replacing the Ayatolas 247 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: is I think a total fallacy. So when we have 248 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: the opportunity to get rid of them, we have to 249 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: do it. If we want to change the trajectory of 250 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,959 Speaker 1: the Middle East and the danger that they provide. This 251 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: is a no brainer to me. They will go right 252 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: back to trying to get nuclear weapons, and I think, 253 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: in the wake of the attack, be even more likely 254 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: to do so and be even more likely to use them. 255 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: We got to get these guys out, and we got 256 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: to get them out now. That's in direct American interest 257 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: in my opinion. Look, big news last week about another 258 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: data breach involving at and T tens of millions of 259 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: customer records. Nearly ninety million records have been repackaged for 260 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: sale on the dark web, exposed data posted on RUSS 261 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: cybercrime forums. 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Doesn't mean that 279 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: you're always going to agree on everything, doesn't even mean 280 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: that every single one of you is always going to 281 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: agree with everything single thing I say or Buck says. 282 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: But I do think as the situation in Iran has 283 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: deteriorated over the past several decades of the Ayatola's leadership, 284 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: that their pursuit of nuclear weapons does, in my opinion, 285 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: directly impact many of our safety and security here in 286 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: the United States. And Aaron Wexler has made a persuasive 287 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: case that that is correct. So let me start with 288 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: a tough one for you. Aaron, I asked Dave Rubin 289 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: this in the second hour. Do you think that Israel 290 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: should take out the Aya Tolas? Should they go ahead 291 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,959 Speaker 1: and finish the job, or do you cross your fingers 292 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: and hope that the Iranian people rise up against the 293 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: Aya Tolas and if they don't have to negotiate with 294 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: them going forward. What's the right result now that the 295 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: raids that the attacks have begun. 296 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 2: Well, I think the also great to be great of 297 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 2: you with you, Clay, but I think the only option 298 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 2: for Israel is to decisively win what they have now 299 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 2: start it has now, not what they've started, but the 300 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 2: attacks against Ron need to be conclusively, decisively finished. And 301 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: so yes, I do believe it means taking the Iatolas out. 302 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 2: I do not think that pinky promises from the Iatola 303 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 2: of not building and not expanding their nuclear program is 304 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 2: something we should be trusting. And to the point of 305 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: the Iranian people rising up, I mean, we've seen for 306 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 2: decades that they have protests, that they have risked their lives. 307 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 2: But it is difficult to overthrow a government, and so 308 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: I think the only option really is to cut the 309 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 2: head off the snake. 310 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: Okay, So people out there who may be listening to 311 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: us and disagreeing, they would say, why do we think 312 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: that who we replace, that is, let's say that the 313 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: Iotolas get swept out, Why do we think that what 314 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: replaces the Iatolas will be better? 315 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: It's hard to get much worse than where we are 316 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 2: right now. But I would say when it comes to 317 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 2: the Iranian people, these are we pro Western people. Of course, 318 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 2: you are going to have Iranian people who are sympathetic 319 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 2: to the IRGC, but in general we have seen you know, 320 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 2: I would pull up a lot of leftists in America 321 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 2: for people in Iran. These women are brave they show 322 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 2: their hair, they get beaten in the street, and a 323 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 2: lot oftentimes killed. So I think we have seen a 324 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 2: resilience in the Iranian people, and you know, the Persian 325 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 2: culture is something. 326 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 3: That is very elevated and very motivated, and I think 327 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 3: we could see a real flourishing in the Middle East 328 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 3: if the Iranian people could be who they were before 329 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 3: the iotolos. 330 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: Okay, So I agree with a lot of that, But 331 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: I'm going to keep pushing you with tough questions because 332 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: you're smart and I think you're going to have good answers, 333 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: but also because again, a lot of these are criticisms 334 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: that I would be hearing from people who are listening 335 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: right now. A lot of people, I would say, are 336 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: adopting an isolationist America first philosophy, and they say, why 337 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: should I care at all what happens in the Middle East, 338 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: This is not America's battle. We shouldn't involved in any way. 339 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: You would respond, how. 340 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 2: I would say, I'm also America first, but I think 341 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 2: there's a real myopia happening right now with what America 342 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 2: first means. Somehow we've decided that America first means America alone, 343 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: and I don't know how we came to that definition, 344 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: and there's something incredibly simplistic about that, but there seems 345 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 2: to be a majrik reaction that's simply because another country 346 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 2: has an interest, we must automatically oppose that interest, as 347 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 2: if we cannot have aligning, aligning interests with other countries. 348 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: That makes no sense to me that that's not compatible 349 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 2: with so much of our history. And in this case, 350 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: because it happens to the Israel and there's a lot 351 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 2: of sentiment against Israel in the country right now, people 352 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 2: have decided that Iran is the good guy. That is 353 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 2: where we are in this logic. So, you know, the 354 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 2: idea of America First, we've seen President Trump have to 355 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 2: take it back and almost redefine it back to what 356 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 2: he meant it to be originally. So a lot of 357 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 2: this movement that's you know, spamming the internet with America 358 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 2: First known New Wars, they're actually directly at odz with 359 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 2: what President Trump defines that to be. And so, yes, 360 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 2: America First should not mean America alone. And I very 361 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 2: much believe that a country that chance in their parliamentary 362 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: session and when their presidents are sworn in, when they 363 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 2: chant death to America when this is what they teach 364 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 2: their children on children's program, When we have seen through 365 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 2: the decades that they will attack American soldiers, How is 366 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 2: this not anti American? When they call us big Satan. 367 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: I don't understand how not wanting those types of people 368 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 2: with nuclear capability. I do not see how that is 369 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 2: not America. 370 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: First truth of the matter is this, there's a segment 371 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: of the right that is anti Semitic. There is a 372 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: big segment of the left that is anti Semitic. This 373 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: has led to rise and anti semitism the likes of 374 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: which many of us have not seen. One of the attacks, 375 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's in my mentions right now, Aaron. We're 376 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: talking to Aaron Wexler. Encourage you to go follow her. Aaron, 377 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: one of the attacks that will be in my mentions 378 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: right now, I bet as I am talking to you, 379 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: is that the Jews own me. I am not Jewish. 380 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: By the way, in case any of you are aware, Aaron, 381 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: do you think that the Jews own me, or own buck, 382 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: or in any way are influencing our opinions based on money? 383 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: This is an anti Semitic attack, but I think it's important. 384 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: I'll put it out there do you believe it? 385 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 2: Do I think you are owned by the Jews. No, 386 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 2: that'd be incredibly convenient for us. I love when people 387 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 2: would love to say that we control the media, the 388 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: media that loves to hate us. I mean, I think 389 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 2: the press around the Jews would be so much better 390 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: if you were actually in control. So no, that is 391 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 2: absolutely crazy. And I would say that Katari money is 392 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 2: what people think Jewish money is in America. 393 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: It's an interesting argument. And look, I feel fortunate. I've 394 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: said this before, but I do think some people say, 395 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: I don't know why, just for people out there, why 396 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: you would say that you have wealth. I'm talking about myself. 397 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: I don't have to work. I think that matters. I 398 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: think it was beneficial for Trump because it's harder to 399 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: buy people who don't have to work. I mean, this 400 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: is the reality. Elon Musk came out and actually addressed 401 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: it directly. People said, oh, you're being bought and paid for, 402 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: and he said, actually, no one can afford to buy 403 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: and pay me enough because he's so wealthy. Now I'm 404 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: not Elon Musk wealthy, but I can say comfortably for 405 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: everybody out there, there is no one who can afford 406 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: to pay me because I don't have to work now. 407 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: But I do think that arguments out there, the way 408 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: that you pivoted on it is significant. There's substantial money 409 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: out there rolling in from Middle East, from Jewish interest, 410 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: from Saudi Arabian interest, from Katari interest. I mean that's 411 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: how frankly, I think Katar got the World Cup was 412 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: they bought it. Saudi Arabia's got the World Cup in 413 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 1: twenty thirty six, they bought it. But I actually think 414 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: it's an interesting angle here, the thing that actually should 415 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: unite us. And I'm curious if you would buy this, Aaron, 416 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,959 Speaker 1: And I think this is why Trump has had some 417 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: success in the Middle East is he's not leading with religion. 418 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: He's leading with commerce and capitalism and the idea of 419 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: business first, for all the Muslims in the Middle East, 420 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: for all the Jews in the Middle East, to the 421 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: extent that there is much of a Christian population in 422 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: the Middle East. The ability to embrace capitalism and have 423 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: more successful economic liberation lifts everyone without getting into the 424 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: nuance of the difference in religion. I think that's why 425 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: Trump has had some success. 426 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: Do you buy that, yes, I think that's definitely part 427 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 2: of it. Also, to your point on not being bought, 428 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: we saw a risk between Donald Trump and Elon Musk, 429 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: the wealthiest man in the world, who at some parts 430 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 2: of his tweets essentially was insinuating, I pad a lot 431 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 2: for you to win the presidency. I would like to 432 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 2: be listened to. And Donald Trump said, I'm sorry, I 433 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 2: cannot be bought. And actually, and this is something I 434 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 2: wrote about in an article on my substats, which is 435 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 2: a plus Aaron Weckler. Actually, sorry plash, Aaron, that was 436 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 2: my misake, but you can find me also on Twitter 437 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 2: at Aaron Weckler and I have this spread there. I 438 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 2: talk about the fact that even the left knows that 439 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 2: Trump cannot be bought. That's actually why they hate him 440 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 2: so much, because Donald Trump cannot be bought. So everything 441 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 2: the man is doing right now in office is because 442 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 2: that's what he wants to do, that's what he believes. 443 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 2: And right now we're seeing a massive splintering I think, 444 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 2: probably the first major splintering within the MAGA movement since 445 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 2: its inception, over everything that's happening with Iran. Because Donald 446 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 2: Trump promised us we would not have a nuclear Iran. 447 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 2: That will not be his legacy, and that is why 448 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 2: he is helping his role right now. 449 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think this is actually important. First of all, 450 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: Trump has said publicly nobody else can define what America 451 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: First means because I'm the leader, and I decided like 452 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: I've made the arguments about America First. But I do 453 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: think to the extent that there is a disagreement or 454 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: splintering in some way on the right about how Iran 455 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: should be handled. Do we want and this is my 456 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: art I just tweeted about it. In an ideal world, 457 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: we would have kept Kim Jong un in North Korea 458 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: from getting a nuclear weapon. It is the danger, I 459 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: would argue, is of anybody that has nuclear weapons leaving 460 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: a side terrorist getting them or something like that. A 461 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: state having nuclear weapons. Kim Jong Un is the most 462 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: dangerous right now, person with access to nuclear weapons. I 463 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: think most people out there, regardless of politics, would agree 464 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: with that. Do we want Kim Jong Un in the 465 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: Middle East with a religious focused fervor underpinning the desire 466 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: to have nuclear weapons? That seems like a really bad 467 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: idea to me for America and the rest of the world. 468 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: And that is why, on a purely rational basis, I 469 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: think it is in direct American interest to keep a 470 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: crazy religious group from having access to nuclear weapons. That 471 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: seems like an easy argument to make. I'm surprised so 472 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: many are missing it. 473 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I'd like to say two things so that 474 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: The first is on the comparison with Kim John Un. 475 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 2: Kim Jong Un is poor. He's poor. Okay. They do 476 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 2: not have money in North Korea. Iran has oil. They 477 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 2: have money from themselves, from guitar, from Joe Biden. They 478 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: actually have There's a lot of damage that they can 479 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 2: inflict if they have nuclear sasability. That's one thing. The 480 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: second thing I want to address is and this is 481 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: something I'm saying from a lot of people on these 482 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 2: SO calls right where they love talking about the price 483 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 2: of oil if we go to war. They love talking 484 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 2: about what it looks like if Israel strikes. By the 485 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 2: way Israel stroke and the world is still spinning, and oil, 486 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 2: you know, gas isn't twenty dollars a gallon, and all 487 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 2: the things they warned us about probably being paid by 488 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: guitar or to posts have not happened. But none of 489 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 2: them can describe to us what does it look like 490 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 2: if Iran actually gets nuclear weapons. What does it look 491 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 2: like for America? What does it look like for gas? 492 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 2: What does it look like for trade? What happens to 493 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 2: the Strait of hor moves? If Iran has nuclear weapons 494 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 2: right the oil choke point of the world, you want 495 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 2: a nuclear Iran in charge of the oil choke point 496 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: of the world. That is aptly preposterous. And I have 497 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 2: not seen a single personality and I'll call it personality 498 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 2: not authority on Twitter actually explaining what it looks like 499 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 2: if that happens. 500 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's super important. I also would just 501 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: point out that twenty four years ago they flew planes 502 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: into our buildings based on a misguided, bastardized version of 503 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: what religion should look like according to these crazy Muslim terrorists, 504 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: right the Ayatolas having nuclear weapons, the idea that they're 505 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: going to in some way be rational in the way 506 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: that they use them, based on the history of what 507 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: we have seen when it comes to Islamic fundamentalist terrorism, 508 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: It's crazy to me that anybody would even be arguing, Hey, 509 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: it's going to be okay, we should just stay out 510 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: of this and let them get nuclear weapons. 511 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 2: Yes, well, well, this assumption that's coming from so much 512 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 2: of the right right now is assuming that it's possible 513 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 2: for us to negotiate with good faith actors, as if 514 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 2: they're you know, Putin. Putin is an evil guye he is. 515 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 2: He is rational and predictable. And you know, when you 516 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 2: talk about international security and like all those theories right like, 517 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 2: you're actually dealing with a highly rational actor. When we 518 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 2: talk about Iran, there is a fanaticism, a radicalism with 519 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: religion that I think a lot of Americans really just 520 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 2: can't understand. They refuse to acknowledge it. Really, it just 521 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 2: makes no sense for them to assume that we can 522 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 2: deal with someone as if rail politique is something that 523 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 2: is possible within that conversation. They will not be pragmatic. 524 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 2: It will not work with the Ayatolas. 525 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: I think that's right. I appreciate the time. I want 526 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: people to be able to follow your work because you're smart, funny, 527 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: and I think connecting with many different people out there 528 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: who may not be connecting with your sort of rational 529 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: thought unfortunately on Instagram or TikTok or wherever else it is. 530 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: So let me give you those channels. And why do 531 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: you think it's so important to be speaking on those channels? 532 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: A lot of people millions listening to this radio show. 533 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: A lot of people watch Fox News, but traditional media otherwise, 534 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: for younger people, very much is collapsing. 535 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I appreciate that, Klay, thanks for having me on. 536 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 2: Everyone can find me at. Aaron Westler is a tough name. 537 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 2: It is Aryne w x l E R. I did 538 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 2: not come up with my first name. I've actually had 539 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 2: it in first, so I can't take credit or and 540 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 2: you can't blame me for that spelling. 541 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: Do you blame your parents for spelling Aaron that way? 542 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: Is this a unique Jewish spelling of Aaron? I've never 543 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: seen it before. 544 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: God, it's like, let's have a therapy session for twenty seconds. No. 545 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 2: I my parents wanted to name me Erin for some reason. 546 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 2: Ar Owen is a boy's name. Arn is Catholic, and 547 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 2: they thought that's confusing. What I guess they didn't think 548 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 2: was confusing was naming me but giving me a spelling 549 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 2: that looks like the Aryan race as a Jewish woman. 550 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 2: So I get hated by everyone and I confuse everybody. 551 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 2: And some people also think it's a kind of black spelling, 552 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 2: which is also fun. So I confuse the less because 553 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 2: they think I'm ethnic and they can't really say anything 554 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 2: against me. So hopefully that explanation will help you all 555 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 2: remember how to sell it, which is a Rynny And Yeah, 556 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: I think it's really important to speak, especially to people 557 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 2: who are on Instagram and Twitter, which are my main platforms, 558 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 2: because most people have TikTok bring these days a lot 559 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 2: like you mentioned. I mean, I don't even have people 560 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 2: News in my own house, so a lot of people 561 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 2: in my generation are not watching mainstream media, and it's 562 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 2: important that we still make sure they are seeing seeing 563 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 2: facts and getting other opinions other than the left. 564 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: Thank you Eric. By the way, I was with a 565 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: friend group over the weekend and I was sitting with 566 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: a dad. He had his twenty one year old daughter 567 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: and his seventeen year old daughter there, so we had 568 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: a big table and she asked me how she could 569 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: find the show. She had never listened to a show 570 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: on rate. I mean, I just thought it was really crazy, 571 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: but I understand for people out there who are listening 572 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: to us right now. You've been listening to radio your 573 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: whole life. This twenty one year old girl, college girl, 574 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: was like, so, how does that work? Exactly? Like she 575 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: doesn't have a car. She rides around in Uber's by 576 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: and largely the idea of how to get radio it 577 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 1: was I was having to explain I just anyway. There 578 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: are a lot of people out there like that that 579 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: are super active on TikTok, super active on Instagram, but 580 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: are not necessarily going to be listening to a show 581 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: like this. 582 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 2: So thank you, Ara, thanks so much. Play a great 583 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 2: to be here. 584 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: Look, Israel at war with Iran right now, and we're 585 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: going to talk and continue to talk about this and 586 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: why I think it's so significant to me. It's directly 587 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: connected to what happened on October seven, twenty twenty three, 588 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: and the brutal attack that Hamas launched to try to 589 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: propagate war. I think for generations to come in Israel, 590 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: and I traveled over there, I saw for my own eyes. 591 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: I think it's important to call out good, it's important 592 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: to call out evil, and it's important to understand what 593 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: exactly is going on. And there are a lot of 594 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 1: people out there that are in bomb shelters right now. 595 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 1: Israel is not a profoundly wealthy country top to bottom. 596 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: There's lots of work, lots of bomb shelters that need 597 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,240 Speaker 1: to be made available for more, lots of protected cars, 598 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: lots of schools that need to be protected from the 599 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: bombs that are reigning down. You know this is crazy. 600 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: I never see anything like it when I was touring Israel. 601 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: They have to cover the elementary schools in many parts 602 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: of the country in concrete roofs that are built as 603 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: different parts, just to protect in the event that a 604 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: missile might arrive. Imagine living in America, where our elementary 605 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: schools had to be built with bomb proof roofs because 606 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: you never knew when a bomb might come. Why the 607 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: kids are in school. That's what they live with in 608 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: Israel because so many people, unfortunately are trying to kill 609 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: Jewish people just for being Jewish. Every day. The IFCJ 610 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 1: pushes back against it. The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. 611 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: Western civilization matters. You can help stand for it in 612 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: the Middle East by going to This is a not 613 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: for profit organists support ghosts. Go online to i f 614 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 1: CJ dot org. That's if CJ dot org eight eight 615 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: eight four eight eight I f c J, that's if 616 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 1: CJ dot org. I've seen the incredible work they do. 617 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 1: See it for yourselves at IFCJ dot org. We'll be 618 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: back with you tomorrow. Chairman of the FCC Brendan Carr 619 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: gonna be in studio with me Rand Paul, fighting back 620 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,959 Speaker 1: against the spending and the big beautiful bill. He will 621 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 1: tell us what he thinks should be happening there. All 622 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: that and more, make sure you don't miss it. Tuesday 623 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 1: edition Clayback from DC