1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff You Should Know? 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: From house Stuff Works dot Com? Hey, and welcome to 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant's 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: two thousand and eleven and this is Stuff you Should 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: Know two thousand eleven, our first one. Man. We've been 7 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: doing this for years, like four seven, eight years something 8 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: like that. I think it's our twelfth year. Yeah. Overall, 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: we've been doing it since ninety there, since everybody's worried 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: about black helicopters. Yeah, and that was our our second podcast, 11 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: I think was on the Y two K bug, wasn't it? 12 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: It was? Didn't that pan out to be almost nothing? 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: You know? The iPhone has a bug like a Y 14 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: two K bug that's left over if Yeah, apparently that's 15 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: a a Y two K grandkid. Well, I think if 16 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: you're depending on your iPhone to wake you up, and 17 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't use anything, but we'll look 18 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: at you. So two thousand eleven Man Future Man Omega 19 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: Man Chuck. Yes, have you ever heard of a little 20 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: condition called amblyopia? No, Amblyopia is also unfortunately referred to 21 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: as lazy eye. Yes, yes, and um. I used to 22 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: have a friend in college named Grant, and Grant Um 23 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: did not have amblyopia unless he had been drinking. And like, 24 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: you could tell how much Grant had drunk depending on 25 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: how pronounced this amblyopia was. And I didn't know. I 26 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: knew Grant for a while before I finally noticed this, 27 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: and it was surprising when I finally did, and he's like, yeah, 28 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: it happened sometimes. Did you ever take English from that 29 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: guy at Georgia that had the Michael Jordan's It wasn't. 30 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: There was an English teacher named Michael Jordan and he 31 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: had a lazy eye, and like on the first day 32 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: of class he said, this is the eye that's looking 33 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: at you, just to clear it up, because his was like, 34 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: as my friend Guy called it, a disco eye. It 35 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: was way out of whack. Yah. See, I have a 36 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: soft spot for people with strab SMUs, which is any 37 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: kind of um, you know, walleye, lazy eye, cross eyed, disco. 38 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: I've never heard that one before, but the same thing, right. 39 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: I actually wrote a pretty cool blog post on it once. 40 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: You should check it out. Strab SMUs Blogs at house. 41 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: Stuff works, it should bring it up, right, but chuck. Um. 42 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: I recently ran across an article that showed a study 43 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: of kids age seven to twelve years with amblyopia, right, 44 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: were cured of their lazy eye through acupuncture. Yeah, and 45 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: this is a This is an accredited article in the 46 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: Archives of Optimology, which is a publication of the American 47 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: Medical Association. And basically they had a control group, which 48 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: was kids who had their eye patched their I guess 49 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: dominant or good eye, non lazy eye patched for two 50 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: hours a day, which I guess kind of forces the 51 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: lazy eye to correct itself. That's the pretty standard treatment. 52 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: Or the other group, Um, we're given acupuncture five times 53 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: a week. What a cruel study. We're gonna fix you kids, 54 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: but we're hoping you don't show any improvement. You you 55 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: would think so, but get this. The kids who had 56 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: their eye patched, Um, sixteen point seven percent had their 57 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: ambiliopia resolved. Forty one point five percent had their ambiliopia 58 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: resolved in the acupuncture alone group. What was it again, 59 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: sixteen percent? That is huge, huge, um. But you'll know 60 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: my my incredulousness. Yeah. Um, when I was saying, no, 61 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: this was published in a respectable journal. Right. That's because 62 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: this podcast was recorded in the West. Eastern medicine is 63 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: still poo pooed in many circles around here, it is, 64 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: but with acupuncture specifically, this is one of those um 65 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: those things that has made the crossover largely into the West, 66 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: and it kind of has you know, Western thought puzzle 67 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: a little bit, like what's going on with this um 68 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: And there's what let's talk about both approaches to acupuncture, 69 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: like explaining what's going on because one of the um 70 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: the predominant thoughts about uh acupunctures that it works somehow. Right, So, 71 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: if you're Chinese, Chuck, how does acupuncture work? If you're Chinese, Josh, 72 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: you believe that your body has the Yen and the end, 73 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: a couple of opposing forces, and that your body has 74 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: a an energy uh running through it called Chi even 75 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: though it's spelled q i, and that when your body 76 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: is in balance, and we've talked about balance and homeostasis 77 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: and all that and in the East, then you have 78 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: good chi energy is flowing. When things get blocked up, 79 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: that means your che is blocked. That means the end 80 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: and the Yang fall out of balance. And that means 81 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: you get to right and your energy flows along pathways 82 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: in the body called meridians. Right, Yeah, you've got to 83 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: think a dozen of them from point to point. We'll 84 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: get to the acupoints later. But uh so they well, 85 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: let's get to him now. The acupoints are there's two 86 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: thousand of them later, Okay, I'm just kidding. Along these 87 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: fifteen meridians, there's I think twelve meridians. I'm sorry, there's 88 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: a total of two thousand little points. And these are acupoints. 89 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: And someone correspond to like that part of your body, 90 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: and others correspond to others. And like you said, we'll 91 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: get into a little a little more later on. But 92 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: the point being, energy flows along these meridians. It can 93 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,679 Speaker 1: get blocked at these points. If you manipulate these points, 94 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: the chief flows freely and yin and yang are balanced. 95 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: And you may have a bad tattoo as a stimulate 96 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: stimulate these points, and there's lots of ways to do that. 97 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 1: Well wait, wait, what happens if you are in the West. 98 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: How does acupuncture work well in the West, They would 99 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: say that it's uh stimulates the central nervous system releases hormones, 100 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: arrow transmitters boost the immune system, dull's pain, stuff like that. 101 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: So you know, the same thing, the same result, two 102 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: ways of explaining it, isn't it. Yeah, Yeah, that's what 103 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: I think. So, Chuck Um, you mentioned that this is Chinese, 104 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: didn't you ancient Chinese? Right? Where did it come from? 105 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: How long has it been around? Well more than years 106 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: in China. And it's rooted in Taoism, which is all 107 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,559 Speaker 1: about harmony between the humans and nature and the earth 108 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. The yin and yang again, can't 109 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: have good without bad, light without dark, all that, all 110 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: that good stuff. And if you have too much of 111 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: one or the other, you either can't see or you 112 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: can't see. Yeah, too bright or too dark, either way 113 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: you can't see. Right, It's true. I think that they said. 114 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: The first place it appeared in text was in uh 115 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: the Nijing, which is the Yellow Emperor's Classic of Internal 116 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: Medicine by Hwangdi. I like, how to sink the Chinese 117 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: are in their language? Yeah, me too. Two words for 118 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: Yellow Emperor's Classic of Internal medic to one syllable words, 119 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: and that's at a three hundred BC, And he described 120 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: Hwang describes diseases, and it was, from what I can tell, 121 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: one of the first medical books to actually be written. 122 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: And he described various acupuncture points in this book, so 123 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: boom there it is. Then about five hundred years later, 124 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: um acupuncture is completely laid out in this twelve volume 125 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: text called the um zen U g Xing, The Comprehensive 126 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: Manual of Acupuncture and Maxibustion. Yeah. I didn't know about maxibustion. 127 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: We're getting into that. That's kind of cool. But this 128 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: Comprehensive manuals like I said, it's twelve volumes and it 129 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: basically says like this point here will do all of this. 130 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: You've got this problem right right here, right, and but 131 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: there's only three d sixty five ACU points early on, 132 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: one for each day of the year. Yeah, and then 133 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: eventually like this just stupid, there's two thousand. Let's just 134 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: come out and say there's two thousand. Right. I wonder 135 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: if the twelve Meridians had something to do with the 136 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: twelve months, maybe so, or the twelve days of Christmas, 137 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: or the twelve signs of the zodiac perhaps early on. 138 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: Instead of needle while they were needles, but they were 139 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: made from stone and bone, which probably wasn't want of fun, 140 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: so they decided we should probably use metal like bronze 141 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: and gold and silver, and that worked for a little 142 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: while these days of stainless steel, thankfully. And now that 143 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: you mentioned that, it occurred to me that we never 144 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: defined acupuncture. Oh, everyone knows what it is, right. I 145 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: thought everyone knew a roller Derby was all right. Acupuncture 146 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: is a a Eastern medicine where they're small needles are 147 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: stuck into various points of the body and manipulated in 148 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: certain ways or not. And because you're living today, those 149 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: are a little tiny stainless steel, hair hair thin needles, 150 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: not like knitting needles or anything, not like a bone. No, 151 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: but it was at a time I already said that. Yeah. 152 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: Uh so in the nineteenth century, early nineteenth century, uh, 153 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: people started going to China and were introduced to acupuncture, 154 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: brought it back to the West in Europe to a 155 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: certain degree in the course of doctors in Europe, probably 156 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: before the doctors in the United States were like, hey, 157 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: this is kind of neat, let me experiment around, especially 158 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: in France with George Soule de Moron. Yeah, he was 159 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: like the champion of acupuncture in the West. He went 160 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: to China. He's a scholar. Um, he went to China 161 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: at the turn of the twentieth century, which means the 162 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: eight hundreds of the nineteen hundreds. And he saw firsthand 163 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: that acupuncture worked, and um, he brought it back in 164 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: championed it in France. In France actually came up with 165 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: their own type of acupuncture. I bet us because of him, Actually, 166 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: I would think so, because he was probably the first 167 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 1: dude to get it going. Are we gonna we're gonna 168 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: talk about that now. You want to skip on to 169 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: that later, We'll get to it in a second. Uh. 170 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: Then it eventually, like all things made tway to the 171 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: United States. Um. And the article that said President Nixon's 172 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: visit to China was a big deal as far as 173 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: introducing a lot of Chinese ways to the States, it's 174 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: like China fever. Yeah, in the first blast of China fever. Right. 175 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: And then in the U s. There's a guy named 176 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: James Reston who um writes for the New York Times 177 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: where he did and he had a appendix to me, Well, 178 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: he had appendix surgery, which I'd take to be appendix 179 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: to me right. Um, and uh, he he got acupuncture 180 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: to treat um his pain and it worked, and he 181 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: wrote about it, and this is the first mention. Now 182 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: here we are today, right here we are. Um, it 183 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: is viewed as a legitimate medicine. Right. Yeah, I've got 184 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: a stat that says, uh, twenty million Americans have undergone acupuncture, 185 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: which is a lot higher than the article, but it 186 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: may just be more recent, right because that was the 187 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: two thousand two National Health Survey. Yeah, and the FDA 188 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: said that Americans spent a half a billion dollars in 189 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: the nineties alone on acupuncture. That was the nineties. You know. 190 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: Now people are all cookie for this kind of stuff, 191 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: so it's probably even more I would think so, not 192 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: the cynical nineties. It was also legitimized six um when 193 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: the f d A decided that UM acupuncture needles should 194 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: be considered uh medical instruments. Yeah that was a good thing. Yeah. 195 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: It makes the whole process a lot safer now because 196 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: you have to use sterile needles, right, um or or 197 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: they have to be sterilized somehow, Like you're not gonna 198 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: get an infection, and if you are, you're really going 199 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: to the wrong acupuncture, you know, I would say so, Um, 200 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: and uh, like you said, how many how many billions 201 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: of dollars did we spend on a chuck half a billion, 202 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: five million in the nineties. I know that's sort of 203 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: an old stat, but you know, the f d A, 204 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: I don't even know what that means. I don't either. Yeah, 205 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: that's the stat they give me, so chuck. We've been 206 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: focusing just on the Chinese version, although we did foreshadow 207 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: that there's a French version to Yeah, TCM traditional Chinese medicine. Yes, 208 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: let's talk about the different kinds of acupuncture. Well, that's 209 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: the Chinese kind, Okay, it comes out of t c M. 210 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: And uh, there's the Japanese counterparts, a little more subtle. 211 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: Needles are generally a little shorter, a little thinner, Uh, 212 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: don't pierce the skin as much. And there are two 213 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: kinds root in local obviously root if you treat the 214 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: whole body for something. And then local. Yeah, local is 215 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: when they you know, get like I'll stick in the 216 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: ear to fix your foot. Um, you may live in 217 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: Japan for a little while. And she told me that 218 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: there were two couples in her um, little province, little town, 219 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: um that performed acupuncture and both couples were blind. Really 220 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: can that crazy? I would trust that. Yeah, it seems 221 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: like it, because you know, you know the body feel around? 222 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: Sure for the points. What's the touchy Like if I 223 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: need a doctor to have eyes to know where my 224 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: kneecap is, then I don't want to be at that doctor. 225 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: You should be able to feel your way around to 226 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: the kneecap. Sure, sure, alright, So the five element in 227 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: Debt crack area for some reason. Five element acupuncture is 228 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: Chinese as well, and that treats the body and mine 229 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: and that's based on the idea that the earth and 230 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: body and everything in nature is governed by the five elements. 231 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: Water would fire, earthen metal. So that's kind of neat, yes, 232 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: And apparently you can um manipulate the balance of these 233 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: elements through acupuncture within yourself. And then here finally, everyone 234 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: who's been hanging on for this one. This is the 235 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: French one auricular, right, Oh, yeah, that is the French one. Yeah. 236 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: The French um apparently decided that the ear is all 237 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: you need to do. Yeah, there's um two hundred ACU 238 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: points located on the ear that correspond to different parts 239 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: of the body and by manipulating these ACU points. You 240 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: can do the same thing that um can be done 241 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: with traditional Chinese acupuncture, right um. And apparently that's kosher 242 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: in China because it's viewed the ear is viewed as 243 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: a sensitive spot for manipulating chi the flow of che, 244 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: isn't it well? Yeah, and with all the accup points 245 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: on the ear, and wonders how piercing affects that. You know, 246 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: if there's one thing if I could spend like to 247 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: do something to my body, it would be to cover 248 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: up these old ear piercing holes. Yeah, I got one too, 249 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: but mine's looks so stupid. And I think about the 250 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: dudes with the gauges. It's cool now, kids, but and 251 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: of course you don't want to be the old guy 252 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: saying just wait till you're older. But it's one thing 253 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: to have a tattoo you're not proud of. Another thing 254 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: to have like a big hole in your ear. Yeah, 255 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: or both? Yeah, I think it's generally both, isn't it. Yeah? 256 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: Those kids? Uh? Korean hand acupuncture is is is the 257 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: last one listed here, and that's essentially the same thing, 258 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: is the auricular accept It all goes through the hands, right, 259 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: and then Chuck, You mentioned moxibustion, right, So maxibustion is 260 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: um acupuncture with these are we just mentioned the different 261 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: types of acupuncture. There's also different things you can do 262 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: while you have needles sticking out of your body. Yeah, 263 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: these are related, sure things that you can do, and 264 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: moxibustion is one of those things. So um, this is 265 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: the the stimulation of acupoints using heat. Right, And Moxa 266 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: is an herb that comes from the mugwarp plant and 267 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: traditionally in Chinese medicine, UM, you take about a rice 268 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: grain size piece of moxa, put it on an acupoint 269 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: and set that thing on fire and then let it 270 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: burn and create pain and leave a scar. Now, this 271 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: can be done in conjunction with the needle treatment as well. 272 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: Is that right now? I think this is in lieu 273 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: of it unless you're doing indirect that's direct moxibustion. Unsurprisingly, 274 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: then there's indirect ox in busting, which is UM basically 275 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: wrapping mox in paper, lighting the paper which you know 276 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: makes the mocks of smolder, and then holding it near 277 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: an acupoint or wrapping moxa around an occupied lighting that thing. Yes, 278 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: you can also use electro acupuncture or saw no acupuncture 279 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: to either move an electrical current through the needles or 280 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: in the case of saw no, it's there are no needles, 281 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: but you use sound to affect your acupoints. When I went, 282 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: they put a heat lamp over the needles to heat 283 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: up the needles. While acupuncture once just kind of it 284 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: is not the point when you're supposed to go like 285 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: a chiropractor and get it, you know, until you're fixed. 286 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think I mentioned it once before. I 287 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: found a cheap place in l a that it was 288 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: like a school you can get for like tin bucks, 289 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: you can get acupuncture. It was awesome. What was it? 290 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: It was real? Why didn't you go back? Um? I 291 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: wanted to, and then you know, like some big job 292 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: came up and I got distracted. It was one of 293 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: those deals. It wasn't there. I didn't believe in there. 294 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: She set up like huh and ran out with all 295 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 1: these needles speaking out of your back, So chuck. You 296 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: then know what to expect right if you go get acupuncture, 297 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: at least from this one lady. Okay did it follow 298 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: kind of with the article details the dim lights and 299 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: uh soothing heat lamp. She left me alone, close the 300 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: door and the on the CD player on low. It 301 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: was very relaxing. I think there was music actually, so 302 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: you're well, yeah, sure, deep purple. I mean that was 303 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: my experience. I've never been locally here. Well, we were 304 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: talking about UM the ACU points right and how they 305 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: correspond to different parts of the body. UM, and they're 306 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: actually mapped right, it's not just like this sounds like this, 307 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: So let's try your cornea. It's not like that. It's 308 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: numbered out and charted. It's a standardized absolutely. So the 309 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: twelve maridi as we talked about, are they relate to 310 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: different parts of the body. Right, So you've got like 311 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: the bladder, you have the kidney, the large intestin, the spleen, 312 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 1: the gall bladder, um, the liver, the parcardium, which is 313 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: what is that it's over your heart, right, I think 314 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: that's the covering of your heart. It scott cardio in there. 315 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: It's got to be stomach heart Okay, man, now I'm 316 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: second guessing myself. In the parcardium long small intestine and 317 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 1: the triple heater, which that's that's the closer. Yeah, So 318 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: you've got you've got these different these are the twelve meridians, 319 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: and then uh, there's you know, different numbers corresponded to 320 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: the different accu points along that meridian. So, for example, 321 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: you have g B one is a certain accupoint on 322 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: the gall bladder merdian. Okay, yeah, but that's how it's 323 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: spelled out. But that doesn't necessarily mean if I want 324 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: to fix the gall bladder I'm gonna stick you in 325 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: the gallbladder meridian. Precisely, you could stick stick in the shoulder. 326 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: Who knows an acupuncturist, but now exactly so. Um, when 327 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: you go to an acupuncturist when you have a malady, 328 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: you're going to tell him or her what's going on here. 329 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 1: She's gonna take a history, um, get an idea of 330 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: what your problem is, like a regular doctor doctor, right, 331 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: and then consult this map and say, okay, well, this 332 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: guy's having lower back pain. So I'm gonna go stick 333 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: some needles around um the ub some alcohol. That's a 334 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: big part of it. Yeah, if you're not swabbed with alcohol, 335 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: get out of there, and you take the needle out 336 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: of the package so you know it's nice and new, 337 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna stick anywhere from two, three, five, to 338 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: fifty needles in some area that will correspond to that meridian, 339 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: right and that pain. These needles are going to be 340 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: stuck in anywhere from a quarter of an inch to 341 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: three inches, which brings up a potential danger. With acupuncture, 342 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: you have organs that are closer to your skin than 343 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: three inches, so you couldn't conceivably have a kidney punctured 344 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: a lung punctured. This is why you want to go 345 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: to a certified acupunctuous. Yeah, and I want to say 346 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: it's very rare. So don't let something like that scare you, 347 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: because we could tell you American surgical stories that are 348 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: equally as horrifying, like they remove my kidney and they 349 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: weren't supposed to that kind of thing. So don't think, 350 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I'm gonna get stabbed through the lung 351 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: with a needle. You know. That's called a big, big mistake, 352 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: and it happens in all medicine. Everybody stabs people through 353 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: the long with the needle. Uh, it's it's it's not. 354 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: You might feel a little bit of pain with the 355 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: initial prick of the needle, but after that, it's not 356 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: like you feel the needle inside your body. You said 357 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: it was relaxing, right, it's very relaxing. I didn't en 358 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: feel the needles going in, to be honest, just a 359 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: little tap and they're really tiny, the ones that used 360 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: on me very very thin. Uh. They'll leave it in 361 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: there five to twenty minutes for me, it was about 362 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: twenty minutes, I think. And they can stimulate them while 363 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: they're in your skin, like it said, with the various 364 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: ways like heat, electricity, or they might even twirl them 365 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: with their fingers if they're feeling saucy, if they want 366 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: to do it by hand. Um. You said that you're 367 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: supposed to go more than once. I think the the 368 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: average is something like, um, twelve weeks, once a week 369 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: for twelve weeks. It all depends on your issue, which 370 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: if you're on Medicare, you're probably not gonna do because 371 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: it costs anywhere from sixty bucks to twenty bucks probably 372 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: more than that um for an acupuncture session, right. Um, 373 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: And if you have to go to twelve times, you 374 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: want insurance that's going to cover. Unfortunately, Medicare doesn't. Even 375 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: though the federal government recognizes acupuncture needles as medical instruments. Right. 376 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: Sounds like a bit of a double standard. Our insurance 377 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: covers it actually, which is good, and a lot of 378 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: major insurance carriers cover it. I'm gonna give it a try, 379 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: all right. I've been meaning to. I've got this. Um. 380 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: I have a muscle in my neck right here that 381 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: has turned into you know those um metal ables that 382 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: are braided. I have one of those in my neck. Man, 383 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 1: I need to see if they can do something about that. 384 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: You need to walk around on that thing she does. 385 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: But I mean it's kind of like, oh, traffic or 386 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: oh this dozen eggs has one broken in it something. 387 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: You know, you need to relax. My friends. Oh you 388 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: know how that they have that tiger Heart place and 389 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: sort of emin park Old fourth Ward. It's on Edgewood. 390 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: You should go there. It's an acupunctu tiger heart acupuncture. 391 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: You're getting kickbacks from no, of course not. It's all 392 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: my way to work though. So, UM, is it safe, Josh? 393 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: I know you mentioned the one, the one issue with 394 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: the stabbing through the organs, But other than that, well, 395 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: like you said, for the most part, it is very safe, 396 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: especially now that it's more regulated. Um. I think forty 397 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: states have some sort of standard and require that acupunctures 398 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: be certified for the most part um and this was 399 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: news to me. There are any of Western physicians who, 400 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: um who practice acupuncture. Yeah, you can be a med 401 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: school doctor and practice acupuncture, or you can go through 402 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: an acupuncture only program. The cool thing about that is 403 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 1: is it requires a lot more hours to get accredited 404 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: without the medical degree. So it's like to two to 405 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: three hundred, two hundred, three hundred hours if you're a 406 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: doctor to become an accredited acupuncturist. If you're just doing 407 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: the acupuncture thing, it's like two thousand to three thousand hours. Yeah, 408 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: so that's I mean, I would trust that for sure. 409 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: There is a lot of hours and you have to 410 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: do it within a certified masters program. Yes, so you 411 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 1: have to be a smart person to be an acupuncturist. Apparently, 412 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: I would say. So, Uh, you might bleed a little bit, 413 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: don't worry too bad. But if you do have a 414 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: bleeding disorder, if you're on blood dinners, they recommend you 415 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: probably shouldn't do it. Or if you have like a 416 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: pacemaker or anything else regulating your heartbeat electronically, it's probably 417 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: not a good idea either, because accidental electro acupuncture is 418 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: not good now. Um, so Chuck, we've we've shown that 419 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: it is becoming more and more accepted in the West. 420 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: But as far as hard science goes Western hard science, 421 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: the well, I guess hard science is Western hard science 422 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: isn't a uh, the jury is still out right. But 423 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of studies, um that show well, 424 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: kind of mixed results. But there's been plenty of that 425 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: show like this this, um, the one with the lazy eye, 426 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: lazy eye study, the famous landmark lazy I study that 427 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: just happened, um. And there's been plenty of others that 428 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: have shown that acupuncture definitely does work. Right, yesod we 429 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: talk about those Yes. Osteo Arthritis two thousand four and 430 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: the Annals of Internal Medicine. They found that acupuncture significantly 431 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,479 Speaker 1: reduced pain and improve function. And they studied two four 432 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: patients and this was in the knee, people with knee pain. 433 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: And these were people that couldn't get helped through regular medicine, 434 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: and after eight weeks they had far less pain that 435 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: affective knee. Yeah, so that's one pains one that's an 436 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: easy one because it's pain. What about chemotherapy induced nausea? Yeah, 437 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: nausea period. Yeah, it turns out, as we said, nausea 438 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: in general is supposedly supposed to be has been shown 439 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: to be aided by acupuncture. There's a two thousand study 440 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 1: in UH the J. A. M. A. Right, UM, the 441 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: Journal of the American Medical Association UM that that studied 442 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: electro acupuncture in people while a hundred and four women 443 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: with breast cancer who had received UM high dose chemotherapy, right, 444 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: and they found that, um, the women with the acupuncture 445 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: had about a third of the vomiting episodes of women 446 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: who did not receive acupuncture for treatment. And they're both 447 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: on nausea reducing medicine. But anyone who's ever had chemo 448 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: can tell you that a lot of times it stuff 449 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: does not work. And then a meta analysis of eleven 450 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: different studies found that nausea in general like similar results 451 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: for any kind of study of acupuncture re leaving nausea. 452 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: Al right, that's right. And fertility, fertility, if you're undergoing 453 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: in vitro fertilization, there was a study in oh six 454 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: and ought six and the Fertility and Sterility Journal, which 455 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: is a hoot to read, and they said that women 456 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: undergoing acupuncture had an eight. Uh, more likelihood, better chances 457 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: of getting pregnant. Not bad. The problem is they also 458 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: were slightly more likely to miscarry than the non acupuncture group. 459 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: I want a percentage there. They didn't give one that 460 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: bothered me slightly mean to like point one or something 461 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: or one or two? Slightly is journalism for for I 462 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: don't have the numbers in front of me. Uh, fibro mayalgia, yeah, 463 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: fiber myalgia mayo clinic buddy. Yeah. Two thousand six, they 464 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: did a study of fifty patients um and found that 465 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: the stems of fiber miles are that include muscle pain, fatigue, 466 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: joint stiffness were significantly helped. It's another journalism, right. What 467 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: is significant significant is it's a lot greater than one. 468 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: I've got a couple of more quickie graph stats here. Um. 469 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: They did some um asking of questions, pulling of people 470 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: who had acupuncture. Boy, it is twenty eleven and that 471 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 1: we've been off. This is a rough one. Um. They 472 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,479 Speaker 1: asked people how satisfied they were with their acupuncture treatment 473 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: and very satisfied. Yeah, exactly, uh, somewhat satisfied lead with 474 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: thirty four percent were extremely satisfied and only eight percent 475 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: were not at all satisfied. Those people are never satisfied. 476 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: That should have been the last question. Are you ever 477 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: satisfied with anything? Or are you a jerk? Are you 478 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 1: satisfied with this question? Besides acupuncture, have you ever utilized 479 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: any other treatment based on traditional Chinese medicine? And said no, So, 480 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: even if you don't believe in it, you know, doesn't 481 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: mean you won't go lay down on the table and 482 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: get stuck with needles. And that's really the only interesting 483 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: ones on here. Actually. So we've got this um well, 484 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: all this information, all these studies that show that it works. 485 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: Poles Journal, the American Michael says, you should all this stuff. 486 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 1: But the problem is people still poo poo it. There's 487 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: still a lot of um, a lot of skeptics who 488 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: view acupuncture the way others may view hypnosis, and that 489 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: the underlying mechanism isn't g or hormones or neurotransmitters, it's 490 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: the placebo effect, right, Yeah, And that's tough because with 491 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: placebo in uh, like a pill, you just get a 492 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: pill that probably looks like the other pills. For acupuncture, 493 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: they're gonna stick you with needles, but they're not gonna 494 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: stick you in the acupoints. They're gonna they're gonna skip 495 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: your acupoints purposefully, so you know, you get these needles 496 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: stuck in. You might think I'm getting better, but that's 497 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: the same as any placebo effect of because you have 498 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: you're still getting a pill that you don't know whether 499 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,479 Speaker 1: or not it's gonna work. The I think the larger 500 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: point rather than pooh pooing medicine in the placebo effect, 501 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: is investigating how to manipulate the placebo effect. Because if 502 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: we can heal our own bodies without drugs or sticking 503 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: ourselves needles, doing whatever, um, then why not you know 504 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: it still has the same effect. Good point. Can we 505 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: end this now? Yeah? That's all I got acupuncture is 506 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: give it, give it a shot if you want to 507 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: give it a try, and I'm definitely gonna do it. 508 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: I was talking to everyone, but I know you are specifically, Josh, 509 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: give it a try. Um. We want to go ahead 510 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: and apologize for this one is the first one that 511 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: we've recorded. Is bad. I'm sure Jerry'll wash it out. 512 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: I can't pronounce it. Um. If you want to learn 513 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: more about acupuncture and see one really super a fluids chart. 514 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: You should type in acupuncture. That's one ce UH in 515 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: the handy search part how stuff works dot Com, which 516 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: means it's time for listener mail. Yes, Josh, this is 517 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: a homelessness email. And we got a lot of response 518 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: for the Homelessness Show, ranging from I'm homeless to you 519 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: guys are great. Thank you for highlighting this too. Hey, 520 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: it's not my responsibility to care for veterans on the street. 521 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:33,959 Speaker 1: And a guy actually say that to me in one 522 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: of his replies that I had engaged him in. Regardless 523 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: of what you believe, if you're saying it's not my 524 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: responsibility to care for homeless vets on the street, then 525 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: but I did go off. I just want to say 526 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: one thing. I went off on CEOs at the end 527 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: pretty harshly, and I should have been more specific. I 528 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: was referencing a story i'd read that day about UH, 529 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: and I wish I would have looked it up, but 530 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: I didn't have time. These certain CEOs are in the 531 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: news that day for taking these huge bonus, record bonus 532 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: payouts in the middle of the UH financial crisis while 533 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: their employees were being laid off. I read this, I 534 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: come in and sit down and read about talk about 535 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: homeless people on the streets. I got a little hot 536 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: under the collar, which I should have been more specific 537 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: in what I was criticizing, because I'm certainly not criticizing 538 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: all c e o s, and I'm not saying that 539 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: they're to blame for homelessness or it's their job to 540 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: fix homelessness. It's everybody's job to fix homelessness. And I 541 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: wasn't clear enough in that. So one to clear that up, 542 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: we'll put chuckers. Thank you. That's great? Was that it? 543 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: Lat CEOs do a lot of, you know, big time donating. 544 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: There's one guy who runs a carpet carpet manufacturer, Dalton 545 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: Carpets in Georgia. I can't remember his name, but he's 546 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: like the greatest CEO of all time. Really, he's a 547 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: good guy. I have to be a CEO one day. Really, 548 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: were you kidding me? Not? Get out for hi? Man? 549 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: I gotta hire and fire. I couldn't do any in 550 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: no way. All right, So with that, I'm gonna read 551 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: up a letter from a homeless person. Hello, guys, my 552 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: name is Blank. I told her I wouldn't read it. 553 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: The podcast on homelessness really hit home with me. I'm 554 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: a single mother of two. I've been homeless on and 555 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: off for the past three or four years. I've always 556 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: had a job, but my divorce basically bankrupted me, and 557 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: I've had to start all over again. I think she's 558 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: married to the CEO UM. I became homeless again back 559 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: in March, and by June I was finally selected from 560 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: about eight hundred people in the city of Tulsa to 561 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: be approved for Section eight. So I feel like now 562 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: I'm finally on my way to permanence. Uh. This whole 563 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: thing has affected my kids greatly, but we're managing to 564 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: stick it out. I believe there is stress of divorce 565 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: in the stress of being homeless. It's caused my son 566 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: to have lower test scores in school. My daughters don't okay, 567 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: but most likely because she was only one when her 568 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: father and I divorced. My son was three. Anyway, I 569 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: just thought you might like to hear from one of 570 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: your fans. It is true that getting assistance is very difficult. 571 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: There just aren't enough funds to go around. And I 572 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: know how it feels to be invisible. Uh. People at 573 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: my work have no idea that one of their own 574 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: employees was homeless, and they still don't. And it's not 575 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: something I like to broadcast. It's really very embarrassing. Just 576 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: know that homeless people may be working, but they won't 577 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: say they're homeless because of embarrassment. Better get back to work, 578 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: I would say so too, so you can keep that child. 579 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for your great podcast, and thanks for listening to 580 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: me as well. So that's a great example of one 581 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: of the many emails we got. It is it is 582 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: very thank you very much, Blank, And I had to say, 583 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: I'm conflicted because we've spent a large part of the 584 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: Homelessness podcast like railing about how they shouldn't be treated 585 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: as anonymous or invisible and grow and said, don't use 586 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: my name. Let's see if you have a I don't 587 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: want to hear about acupuncture. I don't want to hear 588 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,479 Speaker 1: about what do you want to hear about? Chuck something, 589 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: keep us something good. It's been so long since we 590 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: had something good. What about I was talking about American 591 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: surgery horror stories. If you've ever known anyone that had 592 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: like the wrong organ removed, Yeah, let's hear about that. 593 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,479 Speaker 1: That's good stuff. Uh, if you have a wrong ordinary 594 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: removal story and we know someone out there does. Because 595 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: we asked for sinking ship story got too plus a 596 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: plain one. Yeah, um, you want to send it in 597 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: an email? Right? Stuff podcast at how stuff works. We're 598 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: so sorry about this one dot com for more on 599 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 1: this and thousands of other topics. Is it how stuff 600 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: works dot com. 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