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Speaker 1: At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale LOLLI he is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson except no imitations. And it is time

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Speaker 2: to mock draft here little bit. We're gonna see Pro

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Speaker 2: Football Focus. We've only got well three opportunities the mock

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Speaker 2: draft remaining.

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Speaker 3: True today, we've done plenty of Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Thursday, we will do a mock draft with Mike Persuda

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Speaker 2: where we'll rotate picks throughout live.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: And check that out on Steelers dot com.

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Speaker 3: So, folks, how that works is if Dale gets one,

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Speaker 3: I get two, and Mike gets three, then Dale gets four.

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Speaker 3: Then you know, we just keep going and we pick

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Speaker 3: as those guys. We don't consult to be like, what

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Speaker 3: do you guys think, Let's tuddle up. Now you're on

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Speaker 3: your own.

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Speaker 2: You're on your own and you've got to react to

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Speaker 2: how everybody else picked, which makes it interesting, all right.

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Speaker 2: So we're using the Pro Football Focus mock drafter today

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Speaker 2: and the Steelers are up at twenty one. The top

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Speaker 2: players available Omari and Hampton, Tyler Williams, I like Derek Harmon,

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Speaker 3: Wow, Grant and Older and Gone. Yes, these mock drafts

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Speaker 3: and mock draft simulators seem to have at least one

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Speaker 3: of the three defensive tackles going consistently. And I don't

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Speaker 3: think it's that rare for two to be gone.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think so either. It gets a little scary.

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Speaker 2: Now we do have fours rate offers, the highest one

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Speaker 2: being from the Houston Texans. I assume want to come

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Speaker 3: And I wonder if you agree or not like trading

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Speaker 3: down's fine, But I either want to not go real

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Speaker 3: Or Alexander and I'm gonna have a lot of stuff,

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Speaker 2: I don't see them trading out of the first round.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned that Friday. I mean, it's never not what

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Speaker 2: It never done right, right, I think in this instance

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Speaker 2: with those and I just set that up to look

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Speaker 2: at defensive tackle, running back, and quarterback. So the other

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Speaker 2: guys available, Malachi Starks, I'm sure good players, but Ki Burden,

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Speaker 2: Houston wants to combat with. Gray's Abel was there. So

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Speaker 2: there are some guys. And even Trey Amos is still there.

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Speaker 3: I'm usually not a fan of taking this approach, but

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to make it as realistic as possible. If

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Speaker 3: Houston was on the phone, okay, give us a little something.

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Speaker 3: We're We're not gonnaive as much from you to go

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Speaker 3: back to their spot. But if Harmon were to fall

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now I might move back.

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Speaker 3: And might double down even further and make two trade down.

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Speaker 2: Right, So do we move back or not?

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Speaker 3: Let's try it. I mean, how many where are they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and according to this there's a fifty two percent

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Speaker 3: Okay, and then you hope Harmon doesn't fall or see

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Speaker 2: And if that, if that happens, and if we want

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think you have to give the next

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Speaker 3: Let's see who these two picks are.

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Speaker 3: You're throwing our seventh or something.

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Speaker 2: I'll throw in seven. But they got to give me

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Speaker 2: They accepted that, so it ended up being twenty one

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Speaker 3: I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we're going to resume the draft here.

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Speaker 2: And they came up to get Luther Burden, but that.

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Speaker 3: but Burden would be a nice compliment to call him. Sure.

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Speaker 2: Do we have eight trade offers now, the Lions being

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Speaker 2: everything else is outside the first round. Harmon is still there.

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Speaker 2: I think you just take Harmon. We're twenty six, we're

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Speaker 3: No, no reason to flirt with disaster twice.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna pause here at fifty three.

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Speaker 3: Do you agree though, if Harmon were to pick went

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Speaker 3: twenty four, I'm open for business. Yeah yeah, yeah, oh yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're up here at fifty three. Tampa Bay is

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Speaker 2: running backs have been largely untouched except scatter.

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Speaker 3: Bow just went, I'm not trading up for scattaboy.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't stay. That doesn't move the needle for me.

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Speaker 2: But everybody else is still on the board at fifty three. Good,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna let it roll here. Our next

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Speaker 2: All right, we are now within We're at sixty four.

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Speaker 3: There was a run. There was a run, Okay, but

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Speaker 3: it looks like it looks like Judkins available.

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Speaker 2: Judkins is still there. Would you trade up with the

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Speaker 3: As a rule of thumb, I'm thrilled in a running

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Speaker 3: But there was just a run. We picked up an

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Speaker 3: the Steelers' uniform this year, I would kick the tires.

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Speaker 3: I mean, see what it would take to get up

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Speaker 2: Seventy nine and next year's fourth round pick has a

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Speaker 3: Wow, worth a shot. I mean, I'm gonna offer it. Yeah, yah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I would do a third. I do two threes.

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Speaker 2: They did not accept that.

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Speaker 3: How about that and next year's third.

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Speaker 2: Man, I give it up the next year's third. If

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Speaker 2: eighty three or second. If I'm gonna give up next

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Speaker 2: year's third, one hundred percent chance that would be accepted.

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Speaker 2: So they got to give me a kicker here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, could we turn our seventh into a fifth this year?

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Speaker 2: Two thirty six they got one sixty eight as their

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Speaker 3: We'll spell it out to them again. I know we're

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Speaker 2: We would be giving up next year's third, which is

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Speaker 2: our third. Next year we get the compensatory for eighty

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Speaker 2: for sixty four and one sixty eight.

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Speaker 3: So Judkins, we still have a pick in the third

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Speaker 2: We got we got the Texans the pick we got

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Speaker 3: One twenty three is pretty useful, right, let's do it.

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Speaker 2: They're saying, this is we could. We could probably get more.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Houston's all right, offer to Tree, They're gonna accept it. Yep,

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Speaker 3: it all right? We moved up to get Judkins. Now

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Speaker 3: we have another pick at seventy nine. Did any other

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Speaker 3: running backs go in between there? Well, guess who did go?

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Speaker 3: Jalen Milroe went in between there, but such as life. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: no other running backs went in between there. That doesn't

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Speaker 3: mean none would have gone. I'm not saying we're not

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be rough.

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Speaker 3: I mean, no matter where where he lands, it's a

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Speaker 2: A Kyle Williams wide receiver from Washington State.

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Speaker 3: Which two receivers? Which receiver do you take? Of those two?

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Speaker 3: They're really different, But I think i'd go Williams.

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Speaker 2: also still there.

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Speaker 3: I like you more and more.

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Speaker 2: Terrence Ferguson, the tight end out of Oregon.

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Speaker 3: I'm a Ferguson fan too.

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Speaker 2: But Jared Wilson, the center out of Georgia. He's really athletic.

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Speaker 3: He is. I think he might be center only.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a problem. Lathan Ransom the safety out of

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Speaker 3: There has to be some noses.

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Speaker 2: Wyatt Millum the tackle out of.

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Speaker 3: West Virginia, who's guarden private guard?

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Speaker 2: Cameron Williams tackle out of Texas. Jordan Phillips is a

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Speaker 2: top rated nose tackle if you but.

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Speaker 3: If they took a Millim and put him next to Fraser.

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Speaker 3: West would just lose his Oh my god, really nasty

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Speaker 3: too it be it wouldn't be a bad baron. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: West would lose his mar.

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Speaker 2: So I wouldna Jordan Phillips righted the head of Jamury Caldwell,

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Speaker 2: and I think I would have that flip flopped.

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Speaker 3: Coldwell's definitely more pass rush.

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Speaker 2: Caldball gives you more as a pass rusher, Phillips.

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Speaker 3: We already have Harmon.

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Speaker 2: I like, yeah, but I don't know that he's ever

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Speaker 3: Rusher, just for the shuck of it. Let's ignore shuck, okay,

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Speaker 3: And I would consider Williams Savenia or or Millim, you know,

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Speaker 3: or Coldwell, not bow he'd be fine too. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: In that situation, when do we pick again, we're a

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Speaker 2: one twenty three and this is what seventy nine? Oh wow,

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Speaker 2: we got a little bit of a wait. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: we're gonna be taking if we do. If we go

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Speaker 2: to the offensive line route, we're taking a guy who's

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Speaker 2: next year.

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Speaker 3: All three of those guys. I think I'm taking tackle

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Speaker 3: and guard reps at camp. Pretty fond of the receivers though.

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Speaker 2: Probably secondary need though, right we have this year, like

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Speaker 2: how much how much is a receiver? How much is

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Speaker 2: a rookie receiver really going to help you this year?

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Speaker 2: You got Roman Wilson coming back, That's that's your bonus prize,

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: And I might just be happy with y'all, y'all black

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Speaker 3: in the fifth or sixth or something like that. Let's

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Speaker 3: take whatever lineman you like best.

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Speaker 2: Stake seven here. We haven't taken him. I like it,

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Speaker 2: and I mean he's got he moves well. Yeah, very

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Speaker 2: huge human being six five, three thirty six. He's just

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Speaker 2: twenty one years old at that point, which is you know,

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Speaker 2: different from for example, millim Is. I think he's twenty three.

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Speaker 2: He'll be twenty four during the season this year, so

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Speaker 2: I'm getting three extra years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: As sivanam bow uh, he is, well, he just turned

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Speaker 2: twenty two. But I like is the puppy of them.

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Speaker 3: I also don't know that he can't stay at tackle.

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Speaker 2: That's the other thing might be he you know, he

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Speaker 2: might be able to move out through your page.

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Speaker 3: Both those for yeah, let's do it. It is Okay,

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Speaker 3: that's a nice pickup.

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Speaker 2: Okay, moving down to one twenty three, what we have

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Speaker 2: remaining is one twenty three, one fifty six, one sixty eight,

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Speaker 2: one eighty five, and two thirty six. We got five. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we are up now at in the route in the

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Speaker 2: UH one twenty three top players r J. Mickens the

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Speaker 2: safety head of Clemson, Danny Stutsman, the linebacker of Oklahoma,

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Speaker 2: Isaac Tesla, wide receiver out of Arkansas.

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Speaker 3: I'd be fine with that.

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Speaker 2: We got Billy Ohmen the safety out of Oklahoma. Benjamin

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Speaker 2: You're a sick the tight end from Georgia, ty Robinson,

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Speaker 2: defensive lineman from Nebraska. Sebastian Castro, safety out of Iowa.

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Speaker 2: Mellow Dotson the cornerback out of Kansas. Riley Fraser or

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Speaker 2: Riley Leonard. I'm sorry, I jumped ahead of myself there.

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Speaker 2: Riley Leonard to quarterback out of Notre Dame, Miles Fraser

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Speaker 2: guard out of LSU, Cameron Jackson defensive tackle from Florida.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Tyler Shuck is still there. I think that's shet Okay,

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Speaker 3: justin Wally, Wally's interesting there were I just want to

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Speaker 3: take a look here at the defense of the receivers.

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Speaker 3: I think the nose from Florida.

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Speaker 2: I think I would go nose here.

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Speaker 3: To be honest with you, seems like there's a lot

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Speaker 3: as deep as it is, it sounds like a lot

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Speaker 3: of them have gone.

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Speaker 2: A lot of them have been taken off the chessboard.

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Speaker 3: Here. Let's do it, and we have four more picks

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Speaker 3: for bonus prizes, you know, best available type guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: get the nose done.

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Speaker 2: You went Ty Johnson or Ty Robinson or Cameron Jackson.

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Speaker 3: I think Robinson's a clearly better prospect, but I want

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Speaker 3: to nose. Yeah, you know, I think you have the

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Speaker 3: draft for need there a little bit. Yeah. Now, he

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Speaker 3: has played the nose, but it's not a true nose.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: Whereas Cameron Jackson, he's he's a true Let's do that,

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Speaker 2: all right, Cameron Jackson, it is from Florida.

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Speaker 3: We have two huge people. All right.

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Speaker 2: We are now up at one fifty six top players available,

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Speaker 2: a lot of the same guys. R. J. Mickens, safety

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Speaker 2: at a Clemson, Ty Robinson defensive lineman from Nebraska.

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Speaker 3: Could we do three? We're gonna have eight picks in

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Speaker 3: this draft.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Miles Fraser, the guard from l s U. Jalen Reed,

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Speaker 2: the safety from Penn State. Justin Wally cornerback from Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Dylan Fairchild, the guard from Georgia.

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Speaker 3: Kind of did guard, but yeah, another air linement would

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Speaker 3: not break my heart.

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Speaker 2: Ty Felton, the wide receiver at of Maryland is there.

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Speaker 3: I like him too.

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Speaker 2: Now your quarterback guys that you're looking at at this spot,

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Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel, Quinn yours, Cal McCord, Curtis Rourke.

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Speaker 3: I would say Wally or McCord.

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Speaker 2: I just want to see what else is there at cornerback.

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Speaker 2: Let's just Wally balal Cone from Western Michigan.

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Speaker 3: Quinns I just kind of turned into onto him. He's

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Speaker 3: he's pretty high in the beast and yeah he's Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's obviously a little grabby.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a lot of penalties, but but he's.

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Speaker 3: Worth this pick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean there's probably Wally over him, but he's worth

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Speaker 3: this pick. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Quincy Riley is still there as well. He's a little

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Speaker 2: bit of an older prospect. I think, what is he?

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Speaker 3: When's our next?

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Speaker 2: He turns twenty four in a month. Wally, on the

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Speaker 2: other hand, is I don't even have his age listened,

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Speaker 2: So I have no idea how Wally is I can.

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Speaker 3: See here from his do we have a long way

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Speaker 3: to our next pick, not a super long wait, No,

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Speaker 3: we have a just listed three or four corners that

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Speaker 3: would all fit the bill. If this is pick one

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Speaker 3: fifty six, we're back at one sixty eight. Bet one

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Speaker 3: of the corners fall.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. M'donald Fortune is there? Corey Black

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Speaker 2: from Oklahoma State is there? Saw Frasier still there? Those

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Speaker 2: dudes Jalen Smith are still there? Pencil in a corner

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Speaker 2: for the next pick. Okay, you want to take quarterback here?

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Speaker 3: Then quarterback? Or was there a receipt? Was Tesla still there?

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Speaker 2: I don't believe he was.

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Speaker 3: No, I candn't remember what best you're looking at, Ty Felton.

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Speaker 2: Not a Mompfield from pitt Jalen Lane from Virginia Tech,

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Speaker 2: Dante Thornton from Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: I like Lane and Thornton, but I'd probably just take

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Speaker 3: the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what they're gonna do for You're right, right, quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a chance McCord turns into a starter

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Speaker 3: at some point in his career, at the very least

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Speaker 3: he's going to be a backup for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for a long time. He can be along

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Speaker 2: ten year back up in the in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I'm fine with that. Cayle McCord, It is all right.

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Speaker 3: We're back up here, and I would strongly justin.

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Speaker 2: Wally is still there.

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Speaker 3: It boom.

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Speaker 2: Done. Now we're up at one eighty five. We've got

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Speaker 2: two picks left players. Jalen Reed, the safety out of

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Speaker 3: Highly slot capable, good athletes. Yeah, we just took a

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Speaker 3: d back, but I wouldn't have a problem with that.

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Speaker 3: He'd finds somewhere to be used in the next couple

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Speaker 3: of years.

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Speaker 2: Smel Mondon the linebacker from Georgia. Craig Woodson, the safety

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Speaker 2: from cal I. Like him too, Bill Alekney from Western Michigan.

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Speaker 2: He's a little different than Wally is Canada. Mumfield the

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Speaker 2: wide receiver from pitt Andrew Armstrong the wide receiver from Arkansas.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Travis, the offensive tackle from Iowa State. Caleb Rogers,

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Speaker 2: tackle from Texas Tech.

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Speaker 3: He's not a bad player there. Texas amazing attack or guard. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it'll be two of those.

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Speaker 2: Jared Harrison Hunt the defensive lineman from SMU Athletic, Marcus Harris,

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Speaker 2: defensive lineman from Auburn. Just look at Jackson Hawes still there,

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Speaker 2: tight end from Georgia Tech.

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Speaker 3: Who are you looking at? I like some of the

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Speaker 3: details a value, you know.

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Speaker 2: I like Jackson Hawes a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Colin Oliver, the edge rusher out of Oklahoma State, I

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Speaker 3: Missed him do that route, but it's not a bad call.

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Speaker 2: Had seven sacks two years ago, missed some time this year,

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Speaker 2: but six two to forty so mm hmm. You know

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of planning ahead there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right right. You never can have too many and

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Speaker 3: kind of go off the board with the tight end

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Speaker 3: of the edge.

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Speaker 2: We got the extra pick back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the key there.

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Speaker 2: So we got to pick that we can use on

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Speaker 2: one of those players, one of those kind of guys.

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Speaker 3: Hmm.

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Speaker 2: So you'd have to ask yourself which one has the

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Speaker 3: Well, the edge is a special team, yeah, no question.

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Speaker 2: Can Jackson hasby a special teams guy? I think he could.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's probably like the up back on the

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Speaker 3: kickoff team more he's on field goal unit. I mean

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Speaker 3: like things that aren't hard to find. Yeah, he's untackling anybody.

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Speaker 3: He is nasty though.

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Speaker 2: You don't take Colin Oliver. Okay, I haven't done that,

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Speaker 2: but he is really really a deep edge class.

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Speaker 3: You got an extra pick, throw one in the mix. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean it could hit hard.

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Speaker 2: Jeremiah Moon right and maybe be herbig next year, her

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, just develop them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, We're about now up at two thirty

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Speaker 2: six top players available. Jalen Reed is still there, safety

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Speaker 2: out of Penn State. Jalen Travis, the tackle from Iowa State.

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Speaker 2: Caleb Rodgers, tackle from Texas Tech. Jared Harrison Hunt, the

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Speaker 3: Still there. I'd still consider Rogers. Uh.

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Speaker 2: You got Marcus Harris, the defensive lineman from Auburn. Bryce

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Speaker 2: uh cab or calub Caleb Do the offensive tackle from Kansas.

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Speaker 2: Cory Black, cornerback from Oklahoma State. Za Frasier still there,

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Speaker 2: Max and Hook the safety at a Toledo. Uh yet,

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Speaker 2: Nico Reid cornerback from Oregon, Rayon Lane safety from Navy.

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Speaker 2: He's an athletic young man, just seeing who else sticks

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Speaker 2: out of her. John Quavius Marks the running back. From

440
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Speaker 2: Usc catches the ball really well.

441
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 3: Leaning towards Rogers.

442
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,719
Speaker 2: LeQuinn Allen running back from Syracuse.

443
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 3: Rogers or Savania can be a tackle that would be wonderful.

444
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 3: If not, they're both going to be guard capable. I

445
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 3: think I'd go with another alignment.

446
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,880
Speaker 2: Okay, let me take Cayleb Rodgers over the Jalen traus.

447
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 2: Caleb Rodgers is he give up fifteen sacks in twenty

448
00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:01,120
Speaker 2: twenty two six, five, three, ten. He's also twenty three

449
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 2: and a half, is a little older. He is fifty

450
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Speaker 2: five career starts.

451
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Speaker 3: I know what's his face? Thorns big on him? Oh?

452
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 2: Grab him all right, Caleb Rodgers, it is we.

453
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Speaker 3: Go one more?

454
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 2: No, we're done.

455
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 3: Okay, that's wrap.

456
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 2: We are done. So what we came out of this

457
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 2: with after moving back with this Houston Texans and then

458
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 2: also we get the trade with the Philadelphia Eagles, so

459
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 2: at twenty five that was in the second round. We

460
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 2: got Derek Carmon at picked twenty five. We also swapped

461
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Speaker 2: a third rounder next year for a fifth rounder next

462
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Speaker 2: year with the Eagles to get back into the second round.

463
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Speaker 3: We lost a little future draft capital.

464
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 2: Not much, but a lot. Yeah, to come up and

465
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Speaker 2: get Quinn Shawn Judkins. Yeah yeah, at sixty four. At

466
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Speaker 2: seventy nine, we got Jonas s iavanea mm hmm, the

467
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 2: offensive lineman out of Arizona. At one twenty three, we

468
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 2: got Cameron Jackson, the defensive nose tackle out of Florida.

469
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 2: At one fifty six, we got Kyle McCord, quarterback from Syracuse.

470
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 2: At one sixty eight, we got Justin Wally, the cornerback

471
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 2: from Minnesota. At one eighty five, we got edge rusher

472
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 2: Colin Oliver out of Oklahoma State. And with two thirty

473
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 2: six we got Caleb Rodgers, offensive tackle from Texas Tech.

474
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 3: Tackle line of scrimmage. New linemen on both sides of

475
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 3: the ball, didn't go with the receiver through a corner

476
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 3: in the mix, and.

477
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 2: We still have the same number of picks that we

478
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Speaker 2: had for next year.

479
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 3: Next year. Yeah, but it's not a third Now.

480
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 2: We're probably gonna have five or three fifth round picks.

481
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 3: Which okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm cool with that draft.

482
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 3: It's not my favorite, it's not my least favorite. I'm

483
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 3: cool with it. Okay, got Harmon, that's big, Got Harmon,

484
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 3: got Juggins, Yeah, yeah, I mean those doing to play

485
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 3: a lot.

486
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 2: You're gonna play a lot. Jackson probably ends up playing.

487
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think he's active every year. Thirty five

488
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 3: defensive snaps and say might be a starter, a trivia starter.

489
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, a year from now. I mean, okay, let's get

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Speaker 2: to a break. He is the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 2: That was our latest mock draft on Pro Football Focus.

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Speaker 2: We will be back with more right after.

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Speaker 1: This lest He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold car Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly. He

497
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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson and Matt Daniel Jeremiah on NFL

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Speaker 2: dot Com has just updated his top one fifty list.

499
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I assume it's his final in the books. Set

500
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Speaker 3: it in stone.

501
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has moved Travis Hunter up to his number

502
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 2: one overall player. He would be mine too, bumped Abdul

503
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 2: Carter down. You know, I think the injury stuff with

504
00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 2: him is a concern there. Ashton Gentes stays three, Mason

505
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 2: Graham stays at four. I'm just gonna mention the big

506
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 2: movers here, you know who the players are just right right.

507
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 2: He still has cam Ward at eight. It's bumped armand

508
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 2: Membo up three spots to nine. The offensive tackle out

509
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: of Missouri.

510
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 3: Understandable.

511
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 2: Jody Barron moves up to ten. Wow, one spot up

512
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 2: really high for him. I think the concern is that

513
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 2: Will Johnson didn't move up into that spot, and there's

514
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 2: gonna be a corner There's gonna be two cornerbacks probably

515
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 2: selected in the top twenty somewhere.

516
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 3: I mean Hunter aside, we're actually talking about this on

517
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 3: different show today. Johnson versus Baron. They're so different, but

518
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 3: they're probably competing for first defensive back off the board

519
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 3: other than Hunter.

520
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Will Campbell bumps down a spot to eleven.

521
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 2: G Hud Campbell bumps down three spots to twelve, the

522
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: linebacker out of Alabama, and I think you know he

523
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 2: had the surgery.

524
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 3: He's got some injury stuff too.

525
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that's concerning.

526
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna use a fifteenth pick on a guy

527
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 3: that's coming off pretty good, big injury.

528
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 2: Omari and Hampton at thirteen. They running back out of

529
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 2: North Carolina. There's not much not the like about him.

530
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 2: Matthew Golden bumps up two spots to be his really

531
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Speaker 2: his number one.

532
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 3: Pure wide receiver. He has a McMillan.

533
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Nick, am you worry at fifteen? Will Johnson, as

534
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 2: we just talked about, bumps down two spots to sixteen.

535
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 3: Really like a corner to run.

536
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tyler Booker moves up three spots to seventeen. The

537
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 2: guard out of Alabama.

538
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 3: He's sluggish, man, that's tough. That's tough.

539
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 2: A Mecca. Agbuka, the wide receiver out of Ohio State,

540
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: bumps down a spot to eighteen, so he has him

541
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: ahead of Tech McMillan.

542
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 3: I get people loving big Buka. I mean that's pretty high.

543
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think he's going to be He's a

544
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 3: solid player. He's a good player. You know.

545
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 2: Right at nineteen is tep McMillan down a spot, so

546
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 2: the Pickton is really very at twenty down a spot

547
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: should door Sanders.

548
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 3: It's probably about where he belongs. Yeah, I mean, I

549
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 3: bet there's some edge rushers we haven't brought up that

550
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 3: I put ahead of them just in terms of grade.

551
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 2: And you know, well twenty one is Mike Greene. I

552
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: think Green's better at what he does, and with twenty

553
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 2: two is Mike kel Williams. I like both those guys,

554
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: but yeah, twenty three, up four spots is Shamar Stewart.

555
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 3: This is they're a bunch all together.

556
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Derek Harmon, the defensive tackle out of Oregon. Down

557
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 2: a spot to twenty four, but he's ahead of Grant

558
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 2: or Nolan. Yes fair Up four spots at twenty five

559
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: is Malachi Starks was already listed right, Yeah, down two spots.

560
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 2: At twenty six is Grey's Abel, the offensive lineman from

561
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 2: North Dakota State.

562
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 3: Like, I think's Abel's much better than Booker. They're different, obviously,

563
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,719
Speaker 3: but I mean, nicely have one of those safeties off

564
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 3: the board in the top twenty two, yeah, even just one.

565
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 2: At twenty seven, up four spots is Kelvin Banks Junior.

566
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: I'd love to see him going to offensive tackle from Texas.

567
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 3: I have some doubts about him.

568
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 2: Twenty eight is Walter Nolan there. Twenty nine, up three spots.

569
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 2: LSU tight end Mason Taylor.

570
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 3: Getting a lot of inkling that maybe the Chiefs or

571
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: Eagles pulled the trigger on him. I mean, Goddard could

572
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 3: get traded. Kelsey, we know is not long for this

573
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 3: league anymore, you know.

574
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Speaker 2: Yeah, at thirty down five spots. Donovan Azeriku, the edge

575
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 2: rusher out of Boston College.

576
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 3: I like him.

577
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 2: Thirty one down a spot is Kenneth Graham, the defensive

578
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: tackle out of Michigan.

579
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 3: I would have him way higher than that.

580
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: At thirty two, up two spots. Trayvon Henderson, the running

581
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: back out of Ohio State.

582
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 3: High quality prospect. I mean you say this all the time.

583
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 3: This area would be really hard to rank. Yeah, if

584
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 3: any of these guys were ten high or ten lower,

585
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 3: I get it.

586
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, down seven spots. The thirty three is James Pierce,

587
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: the edge rusher out of Tennessee.

588
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 3: I don't know what he does against the run. I

589
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 3: mean I think he's kind of a specialty player.

590
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: Thirty four is Maxwell Harriston, the Kentucky cornerback. That's up

591
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: a spot, a little small. Thirty five down two spots

592
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: is Luther Burden, the wide receiver out of Missouri.

593
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 3: If he's motivated and bought in, he's higher than that.

594
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 3: If he's walking around like he did this past year,

595
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: he's lower than that.

596
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: At thirty six, holding steady as Jackson Dart.

597
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 3: Okay, that might be early too, just on pure rankings,

598
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 3: not value.

599
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: Thirty seven Josh Simmons, the offensive tackle out of Ohio State,

600
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 2: and he says the main question with Simmons is his health.

601
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,959
Speaker 3: I mean, if he had them tenth, i'd understand too.

602
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 2: Thirty eight is quinnshot Judkins, running back out of Ohio State.

603
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: Thirty nine is Josh Connerley, the offensive tackle out of Oregon.

604
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 3: Those two tackles, I could see keeping them close together. Yeah.

605
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: Carson Swashing, you're up four spots to forty, the linebacker

606
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: out of UCLA.

607
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 3: There was such I mean, I know the Steelers aren't this,

608
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 3: but there was such a small amount of starting off

609
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 3: the ball linebackers available in free agency. If you don't

610
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 3: get Campbell, which is he's gonna go in the first round.

611
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 3: I could see sweation and you're going pretty high just

612
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 3: because he's after him. I hadn't had no clue who

613
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 3: to put his my third insideline backer.

614
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: I still think to me, the Georgia kid is an

615
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 2: off ball line Yeah, but he's gonna be gone too.

616
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: It'll be gone.

617
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

618
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: Trey Amos at forty two, holding steady up three spots.

619
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: Landon Jackson, the edge rusher out of Arkansas.

620
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 3: I see that three quality Number two you know.

621
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 2: Down four spots to forty four is Benjamin Morrison and

622
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 2: Notre Dame cornerback.

623
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 3: He knew them down. Yeah, I'm just these injury guys.

624
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 3: I just wonder if they're going up or downy Revel

625
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 3: and Simmons.

626
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 2: Forty five up four spots is Nick Scourton, the edge

627
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: rusher out of Texas A and M.

628
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,239
Speaker 3: I think he's pretty safe too.

629
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. At forty six, moving into his rankings, Jaden Higgins

630
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: at wide receiver Iowa State.

631
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

632
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: Forty seven is Jonas Ivania. He was unranked as well

633
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: his top fifty before.

634
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he tested really well, and I mean

635
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 3: even if he's just a guard, I could see liking

636
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 3: him more than Booker.

637
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: At forty eight, down a spot is Toledo defensive tackle

638
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: Darius Alexander.

639
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 3: He fits everything the Steelers are looking for. Not a

640
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 3: big school guy and he's a little older, but boy,

641
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: hit fit him well.

642
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: J T. Twomloa, the edge rusher out of Ohio State,

643
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: moves into the rankings at forty nine.

644
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 3: He's good.

645
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 2: At fifty, moving into his top fifty rankings with Jalen Noel,

646
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: the other Iowa state wide receiver.

647
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, some of these Welker types are starting to fade away.

648
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 3: I mean the league is looking for a vertical slot

649
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 3: like like a Knoll, you know, I mean one of

650
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 3: these guys. They don't want just little quick guys in

651
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 3: the slot. Now, yeah, they'll be able to stretch it

652
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: a little bit.

653
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: Some other names of interest here because he always did

654
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: his top fifty before. Yeah, it didn't quite make it.

655
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: Elijah Rojo, tight end out of Miamia run. Jack Beck,

656
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: wide receiver at a TCU.

657
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 3: He didn't run.

658
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: Caleb Johnson, the running back out of Iowa. Noel Williams,

659
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: the cornerback out of Cal.

660
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 3: He always talks about the Cal defensive backfield is just

661
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 3: vastly underrated.

662
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: If you can get Noel in the fourth or fifth round, Williams,

663
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 2: good play me too, Me too. Jared Wilson, the center

664
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 2: out of Georgia at fifty five. He tested really well.

665
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 3: I think he'll be a starter.

666
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: Kyle Williams, he has at fifty seven, the wide receiver

667
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: at of Washington State. Azeri A. Thomas, the cornerback out

668
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: of Florida State, is at sixty.

669
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 3: That's about right. I mean, if he goes the end

670
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 3: of the second round of the bills or something. I

671
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 3: would totally understand.

672
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: He's got Miles Fraser, the LSU guard and Tate Ratledge

673
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: the Georgia guard at sixty one and sixty two, right

674
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: next to each other.

675
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 3: I totally get that too. They both have some nastiness. Yeah.

676
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 2: Alfred Collins at defensive tacklead of Texas comes in at

677
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 2: sixty six. Right behind him is Tyler Williams, the nose

678
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: tackle out of Ohio State.

679
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 3: Different but similar in terms of helping to run now

680
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 3: and then see what they bring.

681
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 2: His pass rusher, Yeah, sixty eight is Dylan Sampson, the

682
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: running back out of Tennessee. Shavon Ravel the Caroline East

683
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: Carolina cornerback. All the way down at seventy one.

684
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 3: I wonder if he's not hearing great things medically. I mean,

685
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 3: small school corner that didn't play in the Senior Bowl

686
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 3: or give you much test, you know, much tape against

687
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 3: like Ohio State. It's a tough sell, but it could

688
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 3: pay off huge.

689
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. At seventy five, he has Tyler Shuck, quarterback out

690
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 2: of Louisville.

691
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 3: Okay, did he have Milroe yet? No? Okay.

692
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: Josh Farmer at seventy seven, defensive tackle out of Florida State.

693
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: Sign me up as a quality third rounder, all day

694
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 3: on him.

695
00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see here. Ariante three all the way down

696
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 2: at eighty three, the offensive tackle out of Minnesota.

697
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 3: He's got work to do, but there's tolls there.

698
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 2: Right ahead of Emery Jones, the LSU offensive tech. Okay,

699
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 2: you must think he can play tackle. If he's gonna miss,

700
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: I would.

701
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: Think I'd say the same thing. There's some up and

702
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 3: down to his tape, I mean, but there's traits there

703
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 3: and if he's a tackle that goes along way.

704
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 2: At eighty five is will Howard, the quarterback from Ohio State.

705
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 3: Ahead of Milrow.

706
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 2: Eighty six is Jaylen Milroe, the quarterback from Alabama.

707
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 3: I mean, depending what you're looking for, they're pretty different.

708
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 3: They're both good athletes, a great athlete.

709
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: Eighty eight is Charles Grant to William and Mary offensive tackle.

710
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: Eighty nine is Shamar Turner, the Texas A and M

711
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 2: defensive tackle.

712
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 3: It'd be a good stealer too. We don't give him

713
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 3: enough publicity. Place hard.

714
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: Jalen Royals, the wide receiver from Utah State. All the

715
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 2: way down to ninety three, I say, all the way down,

716
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: that's the spot in this draft. Justin Wally, who he

717
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: just took later at ninety four, the Minnesota cornerback.

718
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 3: His name keeps popping up more and more and more.

719
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: Isaac Tesla, the Arkansas wide receiver at ninety five.

720
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 3: I'd really like him in fifth round or so.

721
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 2: Jamari Calbwell, the Oregon defensive tackle at ninety seven.

722
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,479
Speaker 3: Not a lot of pure noses as you mentioned. No, TJ.

723
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: Sanders the South Carolina he'd be a three to four

724
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: end here. Yeah, yeah, at ninety eight, followed by r J. Harvey,

725
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 2: the UCF running back. This area is strong, it's nice.

726
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: Ahead of Cam Scatabow, who's at one o two, I

727
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 2: prefer Harvey. At one oh three. Is Ty Robinson, Nebraska

728
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:31,959
Speaker 2: defensive tackle.

729
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: I'd love to see him in black and gold. It'd

730
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 3: have to be in the fourthish round.

731
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 2: Third round, yeah, right after him as Elijah Roberts, the

732
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 2: SMU defensive tackle. Okay, let's see here Riley Mills from

733
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 2: Notre Dame at one oh eight, really defensive tackle.

734
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 3: High you got.

735
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 2: Let's see here, Jalene he's really high on Quincy Riley

736
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: and Jalen Smith. He's got Riley at one thirteen and

737
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: Jalen Smith, cornerback out of USC at one fourteen.

738
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 3: Okay, some of these mid round corners are pretty intriguing.

739
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, get some tools.

740
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, there's some stuff to build on. He's got

741
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 3: white some starters at yeah.

742
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 2: Group Wyatt Millum, the West Virginia offensive lineman, is at

743
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: one seventeen follow see the Steelers liking him, Yeah, followed

744
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 2: by Anthony Belton, the off NC State offensive tackle.

745
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 3: Okay, I think Belton will stay at tackle or at

746
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 3: least start there.

747
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: One nineteen is quinn Ewers quarterback out of Texas. One

748
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: twenty is Bachelle Tooton, the Virginia Tech running back.

749
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 3: I mean he's some there's some rottenness to his game,

750
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 3: but there's a lot to work with there too.

751
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: At one twenty one is alekayemanor I'm a fan Stanford

752
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: wide receiver. Guys has him just ahead of saving On Williams,

753
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: the TCU wide receiver at one twenty three.

754
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 3: He's just kid wide receiver.

755
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: Continue to drift down.

756
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, what is he? He's less and less?

757
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh. Upton Stout at one twenty five the Western

758
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 2: Kentucky slot corner, but I think he's also a gunner.

759
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: And yeah, all kinds of good stuff there. Denzel Burke

760
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 2: at one twenty sixth the Ohio State cornerback. Let's see here.

761
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 2: DJ Giddon's at one thirty the k State running back.

762
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 3: He's an athlete that could could hit big for you. Yeah.

763
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: Jordan Hancock, the Ohio State cornerback at one thirty three.

764
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's a.

765
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 3: Safety, a slot, a corner, and today's I don't really care, right.

766
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 2: Ty Hamilton, the other Ohio State defensive tackle at one

767
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: thirty four, followed by JJ Pegee, the Mississippi defensive tackle.

768
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 3: Hamilton slept on a little bit. Yeah, I don't know

769
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 3: if he fits perfect here, but no one ever brings

770
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 3: his name up.

771
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 2: Kyle McCord, the quarterback out of Syracuses at one thirty eight.

772
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 3: Would you take him ahead of yours and Howard if

773
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 3: you depict from like those three? I think yours would

774
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 3: be last for me.

775
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's tiny.

776
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't see the great trades.

777
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 2: I don't either. Olie Gordon at one forty one, the

778
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 2: running back out of Oklahoma State. Rutgers defensive tackle Keyante

779
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 2: Hamilton is at one forty two.

780
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 3: What's he's listed at heightweight.

781
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: He is listed at you're gonna ask me that, Yeah,

782
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: I looked on it before six three, three hundred pounds.

783
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 3: And she's kind of middle of the road in terms

784
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 3: of Yeah.

785
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 2: Played in fifty one consecutive games in his college career though.

786
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 2: That's really pretty impressive. Actually, Rutgers guys always play hard. Yeah, no,

787
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: I yeah, I lost my spot here on the on

788
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 2: the mock because I had asked me a question.

789
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 3: Jeez, guy, I.

790
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: Really haven't honestly haven't done a lot of homework.

791
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 3: On him, mean neither. I didn't know what is that

792
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: didn't much about him.

793
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: That's why Trevor ATM at one forty three, the Georgia

794
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: running back, CJ. West at one forty four, the defensive

795
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: tackle out of Indiana.

796
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 3: I would gladly think hibout that price.

797
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, Devin Neil at one forty six, the Kansas running back.

798
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 3: The group of running backs is still strong. Yeah.

799
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: Breschard Smith is at one forty nine smu just pure

800
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 2: speed and Yaha Black at one fifty the Iowa defensive tackle.

801
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 3: His game sticks around.

802
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it lasts, you know, he's just a big power player.

803
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 3: Him and Tim Smith. I always think of together. Yeah,

804
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 3: just rocks in the middle with the don't let anybody

805
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 3: move you. Yeah, yeah, just be a bully. Yeah, that's

806
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 3: kind of what they are. That was That was DJ's

807
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 3: one fifty okay, and it's a little different. He puts

808
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 3: a lot of pride in that he stands by it,

809
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 3: and you know, most of it's what he sees. But

810
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's somebody hears too.

811
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, some of those guys that moved up into the

812
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: top thirty two might be of interest, might be the reason, Like, really,

813
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: in this draft, is there a reason why you bump,

814
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 2: for example, Treyvon Henderson to thirty two, just to say,

815
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: right him as the thirty second best.

816
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 3: Guy, like you can keep hearing him to Denver, Yeah,

817
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 3: which I'd be fine with. I would mind him going

818
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 3: on off the board in the top twenty.

819
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: Especially if they took him over Omari and Hampton and

820
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: you were like I.

821
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 3: Was thinking all three might be gone. Maybe Yeah, if

822
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 3: Gent goes to the Raiders and the Bears take Hampton,

823
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,720
Speaker 3: I could see that's best case scenario.

824
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: You're genty to Jacksonville.

825
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 3: I threw that out there on our last mock, just

826
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 3: out of the blue, Like if I'm the Jags. I

827
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 3: don't like any of my options. Just give me the

828
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 3: best player. Yeah, I think that makes all the sense

829
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 3: in the world. People think of talking about giving them

830
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 3: like Walker off the Edge. I'm like, it's not what

831
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 3: they need at all, and it's that special and I

832
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 3: don't see it. Yeah.

833
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 2: Anyways, that was DJ's top one fifty here. I'm sure

834
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 2: sure probably come up with his top his final mock

835
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 2: here in the next couple of years.

836
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably right down to the wire.

837
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: See a lot of that coming out here over the

838
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 2: next couple of days. Everybody doing their final mock draft.

839
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,720
Speaker 2: We'll do our final mock draft for this show on Wednesday. Okay,

840
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 2: that works me not trade it all. See how it goes,

841
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 2: See how it goes. But anyways, he is Matt Williamson.

842
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,160
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845
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:59,320
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Speaker 2: after this.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly, he is the Matt Williamson and

861
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 2: Matt the Ravens apparently opened their OTA sessions today.

862
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 3: Oh really, because I saw a lot of stuff.

863
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 2: From Linderbaum and Kyle Hamilton talking about how they haven't

864
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: had any contract talks yet.

865
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean that's gonna be harry for those guys.

866
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 3: I mean it's always a great problem to have players

867
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 3: you want to pay, right, but fifth year option we've

868
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 3: gone into a lot of detail with those two is

869
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 3: really pricey, especially for Linderbaum because center is just the center. Yeah,

870
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 3: you got to pay them like a tackle, which is

871
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 3: a loophole really or a problem with the CBA that

872
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 3: I hope they addressed. Going for would just be better.

873
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: And I bet people were like, the players, here's the

874
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: problem with that. The nfl PA probably doesn't want that addressed.

875
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 3: Why is that? Why would you all?

876
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: Because they're representing the players, and the players get more money.

877
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but not if you don't get the tag. I mean,

878
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 3: if you're a Linderbomb and they say we're just gonna

879
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 3: give it to you.

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00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: If you're then then he's gonna hit free agency and

881
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: you're happy regardless.

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00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, they'd make a lot of money on

883
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 3: the open market. Yeah, that's for sure. I'm sure some

884
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 3: people might maybe weren't listening last week. What do you mean,

885
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,959
Speaker 3: O ta's are starting now, they've even made their draft picks.

886
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 3: This version of OTAs is like as light as they get. Yeah,

887
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 3: I mean there's like you're the optional as they get too,

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00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 3: you know. Yeah.

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00:42:54,719 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: So for Linderbaum, for example, Cam Jurgens just signed a

890
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: new deal. Oh did he with the with the Eagles

891
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 2: four year contract extension at sixty eight million dollars okay,

892
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: thirty nine point four million guaranteed. Now that's a shade

893
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 2: under twenty million per year. That's seventeen ish.

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00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hamilton'll come in and have here in that.

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00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 2: You mean Linderbaum.

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00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm sorry, Linderbaum will make more than that, I believe.

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00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 2: And there there in lies the the rub with this.

898
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: If you're you're the Ravens, you're like, oh, man, I

899
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 2: don't I don't like to see that.

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00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've mocked Booker to them a lot. Maybe a

901
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 3: first round guard doesn't make sense for the same reason

902
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 3: when it is fifty year option time.

903
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe just wait till the second take me pay

904
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: all these interior linemen all this, right, even.

905
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 3: If the sky hits and you're hoping he hits, and

906
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 3: that's a good problem to have.

907
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: But now we're paying two interior offensive lineman.

908
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 3: Forty five million between them or something like that. Right.

909
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 3: The caps is going up, of course, of course, but right,

910
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 3: I mean the cost is I mean, like significant Steers

911
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 3: had a lot of success with pouncing next to the castro,

912
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 3: But think about that what that would cost now now,

913
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 3: I mean maybe the top of the line center.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes you know. I don't think that the

915
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 2: fifty year option is as valuable now as it used

916
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: to be.

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00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 3: I don't either. I don't either. That's why I know

918
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 3: they've never done it. But if you trade out a

919
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 3: round one it's like you're probably not gonna use the

920
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 3: fifty year option anyway, and you can still make a contract.

921
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 3: You know, you could extend pickings. Now he was on

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00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 3: a first round pick, you know, I mean, I get it.

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00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: There, there's you more leeway now I understand if you

924
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 2: like to another year, if you like the player. You

925
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 2: like the player, yeah, yeah, yeah, And there's great value

926
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Speaker 2: in not moving out of the first round.

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00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 3: Like you might be real happy when Roder Jones's time

928
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 3: comes up to you know, is we have that extra year,

929
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 3: more year to think about things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's it's just you know, with the way

931
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 2: that is all slotted down to this new CBA. And again,

932
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Speaker 2: if you play goes to a Pro Bowl, that's not

933
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Speaker 2: a very high bar.

934
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 3: No, it's a lot different than he's an All Pro.

935
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Speaker 2: But all of a sudden, now at kicks in, he's

936
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Speaker 2: making an additional four million dollars fully guaranteed in that

937
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 2: fifth year, and it's.

938
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Speaker 3: Like it's a lot for a lining back or some

939
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 3: of somebody's safety, some of those positions where he's not

940
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 3: an All Pro. But he went to a Pro Bowl,

941
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Speaker 3: and now I got to pay him that.

942
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: Tyler Huntley went to a probral, right, like.

943
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 3: A lot of these guys down the line, it doesn't

944
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 3: take that much.

945
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so just that that might be something that the

946
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Speaker 2: league looks at or they talked to the NFLPA about

947
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 2: and said, hey, let's changed let's change the parameters there

948
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 2: a little bit that may make sense just making the

949
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl. It is not like you should have to

950
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 2: be voted to the Pro Bowl.

951
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that may be at least something not I end

952
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 3: up going to the event.

953
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Speaker 2: I'm the Yeah, I'm the sixth alternate and I go

954
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Speaker 2: to the Pro Bowl, and now all of a sudden,

955
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Speaker 2: the team's got to pay me an additional eight million

956
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: dollars when my my fifty year option comes up.

957
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Speaker 3: But back to your original point, I am really interested

958
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 3: to see how the Hamilton linderbomb stuff shit.

959
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: Kind of surprise. Haven't had any contract talks with those guys.

960
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 3: Yeah yet, I've seen and Stark's both mocked to the Ravens.

961
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Speaker 3: But I would not be comfortable letting Hamilton go, even

962
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Speaker 3: if I use the first round pick on a safety.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I mean you get yourself into a

964
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 2: similar situation if you do that, if you go that route,

965
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Speaker 2: where now you might be paying you your two starting

966
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Speaker 2: safeties a ton a ton of money.

967
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Speaker 3: And Rokwan's a big one too. I mean, not everyone's

968
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Speaker 3: paying a linebacker top of the line money. They are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's an interesting dynamic, it is.

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Speaker 3: I mean they're they're rushers. Now that's a good point too.

971
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Speaker 3: Maybe that's the first round pick was here too. Yeah,

972
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Speaker 3: now they're they're I like where their roster's at. But

973
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Speaker 3: there is some juggling to be done here coming up,

974
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Speaker 3: yeah for sure. But Matt, that's going to do it

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Speaker 3: for today's show.

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Speaker 2: Happy Draft Week, Happy Draft Week to you, Happy Draft

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Speaker 2: Week to everybody out there listening.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: We will be back again tomorrow to talk well, probably

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Speaker 2: more draft I would think for a yeah, unless this

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Speaker 2: sounds about this, a certain quarterback decides that he's going

982
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Speaker 2: to sign his name on the dotted line.

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Speaker 3: I don't expect a whole lot of news between now

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Speaker 3: and I do not either Thursday. No, I do either.

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Speaker 2: But for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here

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Speaker 2: on site running the soundboard and the Justin Miller hotline,

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Speaker 2: and for Tyler Viittmeyer making sure that our video gets

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Speaker 2: us a thumbs up. I am Dale, Lollie. We thank

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Speaker 2: you for listening to this edition of the Drive on

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