1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Thanks for rolling with us here on 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: the second hour of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: Friday always flies by fast, if you want to call 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: us eight hundred two way two two eight eight two. 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: And I have to tell you it is remarkable how 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: quickly a mass casualty terror attack has fallen out of 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: the headlines, not just here in New York City, but 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: across the country. It was just days ago there was 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: a terrorist on a New York City subway who tried 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: to kill a whole lot of people just going about 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: their day to day lives here in the morning rush 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: hour in Brooklyn. Here in New York. He was caught 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: a lot of reporting about that, and obviously the day 15 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: of the incident, it was the dominant news story for 16 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: good reason. But there's no aftermath discussion. There's no panels 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: I'm seeing on TV or elsewhere wondering what could have 18 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: been done to prevent this, or what ideology is behind this, 19 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: what's the motive? And as I've been saying on Twitter 20 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: and elsewhere, I would ask you right now, what is 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: the official motive for the killing in Waukesha, that mass 22 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: murder and Waukasha the Christmas parade. Has have they ever 23 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: told us? I think the answer is quite clearly no, 24 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: they have not. Can any of you without googling it, 25 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 1: remember the name of the killer in Waukesha. The answer 26 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 1: is almost overwhelmingly going to be no, unless you maybe 27 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: live in the area and it was something that was 28 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: geographically closer to you, or God forbid, you knew someone 29 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: who was affected that day. You all know the name 30 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: of Kyle Rittenhouse, of course, and he was somebody who 31 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: we were told was a mass shooter, a white supremacist, 32 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: and if you even tried to raise money for his defense, 33 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: you were targeted by social media, speaking of Twitter and 34 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: all the rest of it. People lost their jobs for 35 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: raising When Kyle Rittenhouse was one hundred percent not guilty, 36 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: found not guilty in a court of law, was not 37 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: guilty to any reasonable person, but for months the media 38 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: ran with a story that he was somehow a white 39 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: supremacist shooter, even though the people that he shot were 40 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: also white. Didn't Matt doesn't matter. This is about narrative, folks. 41 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: It's about what they want to tell you. Is the storyline? Here. 42 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: It's about what they want to focus on. The biggest 43 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: editorial decisions that are made every day are not even 44 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: in the specific words used to describe certain incidents. It's 45 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: what they talk about and for how long, and what 46 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: they don't. So just remember that as we sit here, 47 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: it's Friday. There was a terrorist attack in New York 48 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: City on the subway, and they use the term The 49 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: FBI is using the term terror attack. And there's no 50 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: panels on the rise of terrorism in America, domestic terrorism, 51 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: play none of it. Okay. I wanted to point that. 52 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: I also wanted to say that the crime situation in 53 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: cities is intolerable and because keeps getting worse, and it's 54 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: top to bottom. It's violent crime, it's everything you can imagine, 55 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: quality of life, crime, simple shoplifting. The Mayor of New 56 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: York City has come under a fair amount of criticism 57 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: and he should get a lot more in my opinion, 58 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: for not doing what's necessary to turn things around. Here 59 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: is Eric Adams who is pointing out here there is 60 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: a hypocrisy among VLM activists and the institutional left. There 61 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: were more than a dozen shootings in the city last night. 62 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: How do you get a handle on this crime in 63 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: this city, mister Mayor. But I being consistent with our message, 64 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: here's my question that I put out to the city. 65 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: I thought black lives matter. Where are all those who 66 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: stated black lives matter doing analysis of who was killed 67 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: a shot last night? The victims were black, Many of 68 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: the shooters were black. If black lives matters, then the 69 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,839 Speaker 1: thousands of people I saw on the street when Flo 70 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: was murdered should be on the street right now sating 71 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: that the lives of these black children that are dying 72 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: every night matters. It can't be hypocrite. He's one hundred 73 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: percent right, Buck. I mean, we've said the first hundred 74 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: days for Eric Adams has not gone well, and certainly 75 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: I believe crimes up forty some odd percent in New 76 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: York City. I saw that stat this morning as I 77 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: was doing prepp getting ready for the show. Amen, I 78 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: gotta say for Eric Adams there and Buck, this is 79 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: something that we've been saying on this show for a 80 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: long time. It is that people show up for Black 81 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: Lives Matter protests and then they leave, and what happens 82 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: is black lives immediately don't matter because crime skyrockets in 83 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: those cities and overwhelmingly the victims of those crimes are black. 84 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: And we talked about this a while back. There are 85 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,799 Speaker 1: so many young kids, many of them minority, getting shot. 86 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: When they are shot by a black person, their life 87 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. The only time that a black life seems 88 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: to matter is when a white person shoots them. I mean, 89 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: think about this and the way that the media covers 90 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: any sort of significant crime. The only time that a 91 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: black life really matters is when a white life is 92 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: allegedly involved in taking it. And to your point, Buck, 93 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: I think it's so well said about you. Live in 94 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: New York City. We had a mass casualty event where 95 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: a guy shot over thirty times inside of a crowded 96 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: subway car. That guy has got a litany of issues 97 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: in his past, their videos proving that he is beyond 98 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: a shadow of it out a racist. He has been arrested, Buck, 99 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: nine times in New York, three times in New Jersey. 100 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: Guy had been arrested twelve times. They knew who he was, 101 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: they knew he was a threat, and they put him 102 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: back out on the streets, and they allowed him to 103 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: recavoc on all of the innocent citizens of New York City. 104 00:05:55,400 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: That is happening everywhere all over this country, every single city, 105 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: every single day, because of our failed crime policies. And 106 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: remember we played that jen Psaki clip just before, Remember 107 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: when she was mocking the idea of Fox News covering 108 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: soft on crime, getting arrested twelve times and being back 109 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: out on the street enabled to fire thirty gunshots in 110 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: a crowded subway car. That, Jensaki, is the definition of 111 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: what soft on crime is, that exact thing. And you 112 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: have these progressive prosecutors who even some of the left 113 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: wing residents of cities like San Francisco where Chessa Budan 114 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: I think is facing a recall. I don't think that 115 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: vote has happened yet. June I believed, yeah, it's coming up. 116 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: But they realize that this is crazy and that there's 117 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: an ideology behind all of this. I mean, decisions have 118 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: been made in Democrat controlled enclaves and now from the 119 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: top down of the Biden DOJ to treat crime and 120 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: criminals differently because they viewed this as a social justice matter. 121 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: That is, that is what is going on right now. 122 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: And the whole bail reform effort in New York was 123 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: premised on it's unfair there's a disproportionate impact of incarceration 124 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: on black and Latino or Black and Hispanic communities in 125 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: New York. Therefore, we're just going to have fewer people 126 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: that across the board are going to be held before 127 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: before they go before a judge. Right, And what we've 128 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: seen is just more crime and more people suffering, and 129 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: disproportionately the people who suffer from this are actually black 130 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: and Latino people in New York City and other plays 131 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: and other cities across the country, where they are more 132 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: likely to be the victim of a violent crime and 133 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: armed robbery, a carjacking, whatever the category may be. And 134 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: this comes from wrong think, if you will. This comes 135 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: from the wrong ideas, and Democrats have them and have 136 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: had them, and now I think finally they're realizing they 137 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: can either back off some of this. I mean, as 138 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: we've said, defund the police is so stupid that it's 139 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: it's hard to imagine that there was a time when 140 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: that was the rallying cry around criminal justice for the 141 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: Democrat Party nationwide and a corporation. I mean, abolish the 142 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: police is actually what they were saying in some places too. 143 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: This is lunacy, and we suffered because of and still 144 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: are suffering because of that lunacy. Buck, Not only was 145 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: it lunacy, it was such powerful lunacy that you and 146 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: I were some of the few people out there actually saying, no, 147 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: defund the police is idiotic. There were a lot of Republicans, 148 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 1: let's be honest, who when defund the police started getting argued, 149 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: didn't push back and say fund the police. They'd either 150 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: seeded the ground completely or they adopted the argument right, 151 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: when you don't fight back up against something, you are 152 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: default allowing that to be taken over. And there were 153 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people in the Republican Party who were 154 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: afraid because they were afraid they were gonna get called 155 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: racist crazily if they had said, hey, you know what, 156 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: defund the police is crazy. To your credit, man, you know, 157 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: hate to brag draw attention here, but to my credit too, 158 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: you were actually fighting this from the moment it began, 159 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: talking about how crazy it was and how we knew 160 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: exactly what the outcome was going to be, and it happened. 161 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I could even retreat this one. Back in 162 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:14,359 Speaker 1: June fourteenth of twenty twenty, there were people throwing rocks 163 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: and bottles at NYPD cars in broad daylight. This video 164 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: one viral and I shared it with just some mostly 165 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: peaceful BLM protesters here in New York sharing their policy 166 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: opinions and being responsible, law abiding citizens by destroying police 167 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: cars and causing a riot in the streets. Of course, 168 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: some of us knew exactly what this is right away. 169 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: The Trump administration was not good on this, and I've 170 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: had some people that try to argue this with me, 171 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: and I say, go back this Trump was he got better. 172 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: Trump sort of got he like got in the cockpit, 173 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: you know, he got ready to take over things right 174 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: around July when it switched more to the statues June 175 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: or twenty twenty, the Republican Party, the Trump administration was 176 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: really caught off guard, I guess you could say, or 177 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: just felt like there was too much of a movement 178 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: against them, and they seeded the ideological battlefield to the 179 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: most radical elements of the anti police, anti law and 180 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: order left, and that had real consequences that we're still 181 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: feeling to this day. He eventually got to the right place, 182 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: to your point, by July he was saying, hey, we 183 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: need to call in law and order started. But I 184 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: think he actually created part of the problem for himself, 185 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: because you remember he sent a couple of tweets in 186 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: the early days of the of the riots where he said, 187 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: when the rioting starts, the shooting starts, or something like that. 188 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 1: You remember when he sent those tweets out late night, 189 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: and I think it actually hurt his ability to argue 190 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: in favor of law and order, because I am I'm 191 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: remembering that, I think accurately where he said, like he 192 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: was quoting from a movie or something, when the when 193 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: the riots start, the shooting starts, meaning like, hey, the 194 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: police need to come in and take more control. But 195 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: I think he said it in that way and it 196 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: actually made it harder to embrace law and order at 197 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: that point. But eventually, eventually they go around. I mean, 198 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: the summer of tearing down statues and of rioting and 199 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: of looting and all the chaos that ensued in the 200 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: wake of George Floyd is something that I hope our 201 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: country never goes through again. We probably will, because a 202 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: lot of this is cyclical. But for a lot of us, Buck, 203 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: I mean for me and you, I mean around our age, 204 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: we'd never seen anything like this before. We weren't alive 205 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixties. We weren't alive during the Vietnam War. 206 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: We had never seen protests that occurred like this. Maybe 207 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: a little bit the riots in Los Angeles, but otherwise 208 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of comparisons historically for people who 209 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: are forty or fifty years old. The only thing that 210 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: came close was the BLM riots under the Obama administration. 211 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: Well you remember that that was BLM one point zero, 212 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: where CNN famously had a reporter standing in front of 213 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: a raging inferno of a whole building that was burning 214 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: down to the ground, and they said mostly peaceful protests. 215 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: That was one of the great CN moments of all 216 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: time at places never I mean, it should never regain 217 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: any credibility with any series person. But nonetheless, here we are. 218 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: But Clay, it was all rooted, you know how. You 219 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: knew that BLM was only going to make everything worse 220 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: for everybody, which was my contention from the very beginning 221 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: of it. And see now we're talking about it today, folks, 222 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: because we see the results. We see the results of 223 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: the Democrat left policies and crime in New York, Houston, Portland, 224 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, San Francisco, Minneapolis go down the list pick 225 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: a major city where there were BLM movements, activists and 226 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: progressive prosecutors all coming together, and Democrats either bending the 227 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: knee or encouraging all of this, and things have gotten 228 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: markedly worse. In the earliest days. It was clear when 229 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: you have a movement that is based upon a lie, 230 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: which is that law enforcement routinely kills unarmed black men 231 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,359 Speaker 1: without consequence out of racism. I mean that is the foundation, 232 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: that is the founding lie of the BLM movement. Nothing 233 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: good is going to come of that, folks. There is 234 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: no reform that they will engage in. They will buy 235 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: a six million dollar mansion in Malibu, however, apparently that 236 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: we did find out. Yeah. And by the way, it 237 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: also leads to more violent interactions because police shootings are 238 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: up forty percent, meaning police being shot this year in 239 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, off off so far twenty twenty two, 240 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: off of historic highs. In twenty twenty one, we're at 241 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: up forty percent according to the first quarter data of 242 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 1: numbers of police getting shot. So there are real consequences 243 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: not only on the side of innocent people being murdered, 244 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: but also on blue lives mattering as they try and 245 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: protect this all over the country. We'll talk to Senator 246 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: Haggerty coming up here in a few minutes about the border, 247 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: the economy, and a lot of other stuff. That'll be 248 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: a great conversation. Make sure you stick around. 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Go to carshield dot com, slash 265 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck or call eight hundred three nine one 266 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: eighty eight eighty eight to save ten percent on your 267 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: plan and lock in your pricing forever. That's carshield dot 268 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: com slash Clay and Buck or eight hundred three nine 269 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: one eighty eight eighty eight to save ten percent. A 270 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: deductible may apply. Welcome back Clay Travis Buck Sexton show 271 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: to get ready for Senator Bill Haggerty. I'm curious what 272 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: he thinks about this Twitter Elon Musk battle. I just 273 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: want to emphasize that Twitter has put in place a 274 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: poison pill and they are going to try and do 275 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: everything they can to avoid selling to Elon Musk Buck 276 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: and as a result of that, you can expect lawsuits 277 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: to rain down in great abundance, because effectively, what they 278 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: are saying is we are not going to maximize shareholder 279 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: value right now, and if they can't find another bidder 280 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: who is going to give more money than what Elon 281 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: Musk is offering, then this is going to get ugly, 282 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: and it's going to get ugly really really fast. And 283 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: so that is what's going on. Twitter basically is letting 284 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: it be known we care more about ensuring that we 285 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: can rig the game than we do about maximizing shareholder 286 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: value for the company, and the libs are freaking out 287 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: about the whole Twitter situation. Here's MSNBC's Yes, you know, 288 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: I give CNN the rough stuff a lot. I gotta 289 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: watch a little more MSNBC so I could pick up 290 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: some great moments like this. Here's MSNBC's Katie Tura. Listen 291 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: to this one. There are real and devastating consequences for 292 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: using that platform to lie, and we've seen it happen. 293 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: I wonder, you know, when talking about this, it's you know, 294 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: it's kind of funny, wants to buy it, but there 295 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: are massive life and globaltering consequences for just letting people 296 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: run wild on the thing. Yes, one percent, but that's 297 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: Facebook is really the where the real action is. This 298 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: is a very small company. It has an outsize influence 299 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: because media people like it, politicians, world leaders, and Elon Musk. 300 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: He was asked if there's a plan B, and he 301 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: laughed and said, there is. That's what a super villain 302 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: hero would say, right. He thinks he's Tony's dark No 303 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: notice Clay. They the assumption baked into all of this 304 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: all along is that they have the truth and therefore 305 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: they can shut down anything that's not true. These lives 306 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: in the media lie all the time. Yeah, and Buck, 307 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: I think this has actually been wildly clarifying because what 308 00:16:55,560 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: you are seeing happen in real time is the left wing, 309 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: in particular of the Democratic Party, which is wildly overrepresented 310 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: among the blue checks on Twitter, is aggressively arguing that 311 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: it's too dangerous to let people say what they really 312 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: think on social media. They are saying, effectively, democracy itself 313 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: is too dangerous. We can't allow people to share their 314 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: opinions and their voices in a wide manner without censorship 315 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: or regulation. They are telling on themselves. While they try 316 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: to argue democracy dyes in darkness and all that jazz, 317 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: the reality is they are terrified of you and me 318 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: and real people out there in America sharing our opinions 319 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: every single day without filters added to it and without 320 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: the algorithm deciding what we can and cannot see. I 321 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: think it's because so many of their ideas are obvious 322 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,959 Speaker 1: garbage that without the ability to censor and control the conversation, 323 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: they look stupid. 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Legacybox dot com slash clay, Clay, 342 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: Travison buck Sexton show Going Strong, Thanks for being here 343 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: with us. The third busload full of illegal migrants has 344 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: dropped them off in Washington, d C. In our nation's capital, 345 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: a courtesy of the state of Texas. This program is 346 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: actually happening. It is underway, and it is getting some 347 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: attention for what is going to happen at our border 348 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: and also what's gonna happen with the economy. You've got 349 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: some big questions to pose to our friends, Senator Bill 350 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: Haggerty of the Great States of Tennessee, which, of course 351 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: Clay big Tennessee fan, but everyone loves Tennessee. Senator, thanks 352 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: for being with us. It's great to be back with you. 353 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: Thank you. What do you make of the situation as 354 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: it's unfolding right now at the southern border currently beyond 355 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: the capacity of border patrol, the process the people illegally 356 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: crossing as of today, that's already happening. They think it 357 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: might double, maybe even triple, within thirty days. What is 358 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: the Biden administration thinking. The Biden administration is not thinking 359 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: at all about what's happening to get the border. If 360 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: they were, they wouldn't be allowing this. You know, they 361 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: won't go there. Joe Biden won't go to the border. 362 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 1: Democrat politicians won't go. I recently led a group of 363 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: Tennessee sheriffs and mayors down there because we're dealing with 364 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: the aftermath what's happening at that border. Right here in Tennessee. 365 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: They're turning every town into a border town. And I'll 366 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: tell you this, each month here in Tennessee is worth 367 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: than the month before it in terms the number of 368 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: overdoses and deaths. Most of it do to fentanyl, all 369 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: of it coming across that southern border. Is the Chinese 370 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: Communist Party shipping the fentanyl and is precursors into Mexico. 371 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: They're working with their partners in the drug cartels. Those 372 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: cartels control the entirety of the northern border. They have 373 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: lost complete control of the northern border of Mexico to 374 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: the drug cartels of Mexican government cannot control them. And 375 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: those cartels are controlling that border and hours to using 376 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: humans to basically take the border patrol officers and get 377 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: them completely distracted and tied up, and then they're shipping 378 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: the fundel across and major quantities to poison. Are you 379 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: here in America? It's just terrible. Senator, appreciate you coming 380 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: on as you've discussed that situation. At the border. It 381 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: appears that a lot of Democratic Senators, probably not coincidentally, 382 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: a lot of them in very much toss up states 383 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: and running for reelection, are opposed to the Biden administration's 384 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: decision on Title forty two. What sort of recourse do 385 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: you guys have in the Senate to fight against this? 386 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: What do you anticipate that looking like as MAYA twenty 387 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: third moves closer and closer to fruition here, Clay, I've 388 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: actually introduced legislation to strengthen Title forty two, and I 389 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: need my Democrat colleagues to join me in this, because 390 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: if we do, we can come back with legislation that 391 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: will basically take this Title forty two rule and put 392 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 1: it into law, and the Biden administration will have no 393 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: chance but to keep it in forced. My addition to that, 394 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: you know Title forty two is based on a public 395 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: health emergency. They've used COVID as the rational tuberculosis. Could 396 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: be that a public health emer You to see that 397 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: would cause danger and harm to Americans with people coming 398 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: across that border with unknown diseases. Well, there's something else 399 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: coming across that border, and it's sentinel, it's illicit drugs, 400 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: and it is killing our kids. In fact, it's the 401 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: number one cause of death for Americans between the ages 402 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: of eighteen and forty five. Last year, over one hundred 403 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: thousand lives lost to this. This is a public health crisis. 404 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: My legislation strengthens that, and that's exactly how we push 405 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: back and again begin to arm our border patrol agents 406 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: with the tools they need to stop this. The Biden 407 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: administration is tried to destroy every tool they had. They 408 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: stopped building the wall. It's just a disgrace when you 409 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: see what's happening down there, just big gaps and holes 410 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: in the wall. They won't allow the border patrol agents 411 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,959 Speaker 1: to do their job. They're taking away every tool. Now 412 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: when you take away Title forty two again, which is 413 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: there one tool that they had to say, look, because 414 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: of the public health crisis, we can turn people away. 415 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: They remove that, we're going to be completely swamped at 416 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: the border. I was told that we would have as 417 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: many as a million people come over after the Title 418 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: forty two is dropped in late May that were to happen. 419 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: They're they're building up on the border now and they're 420 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: just going to crush an overwhelm our border patrol. We're 421 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: speaking of Senator Bill Haggerty of Tennessee. Senator. The economy 422 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: is not good because I'm sure every listening already knows, 423 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: and you know, inflation number just came out this week 424 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: eight point five percent. The Biden regime is struggling to 425 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: come up with an explanation other than it's Putin's fault. 426 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: What are you what are you seeing and hearing about 427 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: how this is going to go in the midterms, how 428 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: much of an effect this will have? And it's your 429 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: expectation that until there's different leadership, it's just going to 430 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: continue to get worse. It's remarkable Biden keeps saying I 431 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: believe even still that the way to deal with inflation 432 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 1: is to pass his five trillion dollars spending package. It's 433 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. They believed it's 434 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: spending more money produces inflation. This started back in March 435 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: of last year, when Biden came in and shoved through 436 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: on a completely partisan basis. You remember, not a single 437 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: Republican vote. They shoved through a one point nine trillion 438 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: dollars stimulus package. The economy was already moving in a 439 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: positive direction. I warned them that it would have set 440 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: off inflation that they wouldn't be able to control. They 441 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,719 Speaker 1: did it anyway, again, with fifty partisan votes in Kamala 442 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: Harris Casting casting the tie decision. They came in and 443 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: shoved another one point nine trillion dollars or stimulus into 444 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: an economy that was already overheating, and they set this 445 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: thing off. The other thing they did, though, that I 446 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 1: think was even more more serious than the stimulus spending 447 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: that they put in place, was the war that Joe 448 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: Biden waged on the oil and gas industry here in America. 449 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: He started that on day one. He canceled the Keystone 450 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: XL pipeline. He forbade drilling on federal lands, whether they'd 451 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: be onshore or offshore. They've killed the permitting process for pipelines. 452 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: What they've done is sent a message to the capital 453 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: markets that you shouldn't invest in oil and gas in America. 454 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: We're going to destroy the return on your investment. So 455 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: that's dried up the past in the oil and gas industry. 456 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: No new investment is going there. That had the effect 457 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: of increasing domestic energy prices, of course, but it also 458 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: had a global impact because these energy prices are all 459 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: hide so the energy increase, the energy price increases that 460 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: we saw at the pump at diesel fuel gas, we've 461 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: seen it in heating oil throughout America, someplaces double. What 462 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: we've also seen is this has happened on a global basis. 463 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: In fact, the biggest benefitiary of the price increase that 464 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: Biden kicked off Ladener Putin, because there's the second largest 465 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: producer of oil in Russia. So he's actually inadvertently funded 466 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: Putin's war machine at the same time he set off 467 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: inflation here in America. This is all Joe Biden's fought. Now, 468 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: what he's trying to do is blame it on the 469 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: Ukraine invasion. This was well underway before Putin ever invaded Ukraine. 470 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: All Joe Biden did was funded. Senator, You've got a 471 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: good business background. You've been involved in a lot of 472 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: companies over the years when and this just happened in 473 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 1: the last hour or so, so you may not have 474 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: had a lot of time to digest it. But Twitter's 475 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: board has adopted a poison pill to effectively, it appears, 476 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: keep Elon Musk from being able to buy the company 477 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,479 Speaker 1: and implement more free speech freedoms so that people can 478 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: say what they actually think in a marketplace of ideas. 479 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on the battle over Twitter on 480 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: the board's actions from both the business and political perspective, Well, 481 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: let's just give give our listeners or a quick a 482 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: quick rundown of what a poison til is. A pill 483 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: is a mechanism that evidently the Twitter board is. I 484 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: knew they were contemplating it. I was. I'm sorry to 485 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: hear they went ahead and did it because I think 486 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: they've violated the produciary duty in most cases. That's the 487 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: that that that's the result. Twitter shareholders are going to 488 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 1: suffer because of this, because this poison til mechanism basically 489 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: means if if if Elon must take steps to acquire 490 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: at a premium to acquire the stock of Twitter, there's 491 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: an there's an automatic dilution provision that essentially wipes out 492 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: and delutes the investment. So it's it's going to basically 493 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: damage the value of the company. They're willing to sacrifice 494 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: shareholder value so they can pursue their own control, keep 495 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: management in place, and so they can continue to pursue 496 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 1: their own political agenda because they've already contorted Twitter into 497 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 1: alical machine. I think that probably has already suppressed your 498 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: holder value. Elon must probably see the potentials unlockdown value 499 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: because you can make it an open forum, not subject 500 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: to censorship and not subject to political bias. That would 501 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 1: probably already unleash a lot of value. And now the 502 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: board of directors is going to put in place a 503 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: poison tailt mechanism to not allow them to go ahead 504 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: and exercise the premium that is being offered. That's that's 505 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: very definit mental to shareholders. I'm certain there'll be a 506 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: tremendous number of lawsuits over two more thanks for you quickly, 507 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: centaeror Haggerty one. Do you think those lawsuits are likely 508 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: to be successful? Right? It's one thing to sue, it's 509 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: another thing to actually get a judgment. And then is 510 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: there a pathway? I know you're not on the Twitter 511 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: board and you're not sitting around looking at the M 512 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: and A possibilities here or what the actual structure is 513 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: of Twitter internally, but is there a way that Elon Musk, 514 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he's the richest man in the world. Can 515 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: he force a buye of Twitter? Even if Twitter tries 516 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: to stop him? You know what I mean, is there 517 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: is there a nuclear option? Well, I've served on New 518 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: York Stock Exchange Boards NASDA. There a variety of options 519 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: that he has in the Delaware courts. I'm not sure 520 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: where where Twitter is incorporated, but it depends on which 521 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: court system the suits are brought in. The you know, 522 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: the options though, are multiple on on the law suit 523 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: side as well as the financial mechanisms that he can 524 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: use to obtain control and indirect means, direct and indirect means. 525 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: So the answer is, I haven't fully analyzed it. Well know, 526 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: I'm not certain what tact he may take next, but 527 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: certainly Elon Musk has an enormous account of resources available 528 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: to him to pursue this if he wants to. Senator 529 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: Haggerty appreciate it. And by the way, I'm looking forward 530 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: to seeing you at Mara Lago on Tuesday with President 531 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: Trump for a big event here. I look forward to 532 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: being there with the click. That'll be great. Look forward 533 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,239 Speaker 1: to seeing there. It should be a lot of fun, 534 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: that is, Senator Haggerty of Tennessee. And I want to 535 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: tell you guys, by the way, really good on the 536 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: spot analysis here from him on what exactly is going 537 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: on with Twitter as the poison pill is put in 538 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: place to try to keep elon Must from acquiring it. 539 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: One of tell you a lot of you got home 540 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: offices right now, you're sitting around in chairs. You're back, 541 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: maybe aching, maybe you're getting cold, maybe you're a little 542 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: bit hot. Maybe you need some dynamic lumbar support massage chair. 543 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: You know what, Buck and I sit around all day 544 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: in X chair. 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Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 563 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: We got a couple people who want to weigh in. 564 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: It is Friday, and we try to take a few 565 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: of your calls on a variety of different topics as 566 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: we are rolling through. Let's go to Dana in Virginia Beach, Virginia. 567 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: He's got a question that you just heard. I mean, 568 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: I thought Senator Haggerty of Tennessee just kind of laid 569 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: it out there well about the potential lawsuits that might 570 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: ensue over Twitter being more interested in protecting the company 571 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: from being bought by Elon Musk than they are in 572 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: actually maximizing shareholder value. Dana, which a shrewd fellow, by 573 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: the way, Yeah, no doubt, Yes, go ahead, sir. First off, guys, 574 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: Nova retired, nating Fight of Pilot didos to Rusha's memory 575 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: and heavy and for the great job you guys have 576 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: been doing it. Love listen to you, Thank you well, 577 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: Thank you. The uh the Elon must thing in the 578 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: attempt he's making for the Hostel takeover. I know that 579 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: has been indicated that the board has a produciary responsibility 580 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: to their shareholders. And while I was on hold, I 581 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: did some research as far as that is concerned, and 582 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: there is obviously a legal president for that, and I 583 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: would think something like maybe the SEC would get involved 584 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: and force them to comply with that or to step 585 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: down as as board members. It's going Yeah, I was 586 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: gonna say, the SEC is going to do. It's a 587 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: federal agency, so they'll do the Biden the the Biden, 588 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: the Biden bidding, sorry, the bidding of the Biden regime. 589 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: Not easy to say. Uh oh. Vic Roy, who is 590 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: a friend of both of our super smart guy works 591 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: at Free opp Um Free Op, which is different than 592 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: the song but uh the um. But what he has 593 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: pointed out is that there does seem to be ADJ 594 00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: and SEC concerted effort to work against the Elon Musk's 595 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: purchase of Twitter. Why would that be well, Joe Biden 596 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: knows that he may well have gotten elected President of 597 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: the United States because of the protection that Twitter gave him. 598 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: As it relates to the Hunter, Biden's story, I don't 599 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: think that's a wild hyperbolic assertion when you look at 600 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: how close the election ended up being in Wisconsin, Georgia, 601 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: and Arizona, among other states. And so what you're asking 602 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: day now, I think is a really really intriguing question, 603 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: and that is this right now, Elon Musk is offering 604 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: a twenty percent premium based on implementing this poison Pillbuck, 605 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: I would expect if the markets were open today and 606 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: they're closed for good Friday, I would expect that we 607 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: will see Twitter stock decline substantially on Monday, absent any 608 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: new information on Saturday, Sunday or the remainder of Friday, 609 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: that gap between and I'm a shareholder, so I'm a 610 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: longtime Twitter shareholder. I would sell my stock right now 611 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: for fifty four dollars and twenty cents a share to 612 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: Elon Musk if I had that opportunity. I just want 613 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: you to go to the board meeting with all the shareholders, 614 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: with the proxies at all that I want the Clay 615 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: Travis instead of greed is good, Musk is good speech. Alah, 616 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: Gordon Gecko, you'd be the guy to do it. I 617 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: don't know what they limit you to like one minute 618 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: or two minutes like they do. I imagine they do, 619 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: as if you're you take the mic, you'd refuse to 620 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: pass the mic, and that lawsuit, which may well be 621 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if the courts are open today all 622 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: over the country, but I would expect that you will 623 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: see shareholder lawsuits filed arguing that Twitter's board has breached 624 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: its fiduciary duty by not accepting the offer that Elon 625 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: Musk is put on the table. And as it moves forward, 626 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: those could become even more legitimate because if Twitter doesn't 627 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: have a bidder, now look to the board's credit. If 628 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: they end up finding somebody who's going to pay sixty 629 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: dollars a share, then they're get maximizing shareholder value selling 630 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: it's somebody else. If they have no other bidders and 631 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: they implemented this poison pill, and Elon Musk is going 632 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: to be forestalled from being able to acquire the company, 633 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: and the stock price declines fifteen twenty dollars below what 634 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: Elon Musk is offering, there's billions of dollars of legal 635 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: exposure for the board there, and there's a lot of 636 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: plain enough lawyers out there. I guarantee you who do 637 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: the shareholder lawsuits that are giddy about being able to 638 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 1: file them. I'll tell you this, I really do believe that, 639 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: you know, you know when they you know, if I 640 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 1: can't have it, no one can. You know you hear 641 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: there's some you know, obsessive people in movies and stuff. 642 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: I think that the libs who run Twitter, and a 643 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 1: lot of the people running around now who were saying 644 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: it's a it's an existential threat to world peace. If 645 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: Elon Musk were to take over Twitter. If the choice 646 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: were between letting Elon Musk have it or imploding the 647 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: whole thing so there is no more Twitter, they would 648 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: rather it implode because they still have all those other platforms. 649 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: If you gave members of the Twitter board, we're all very, 650 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,720 Speaker 1: very wealthy, the choice between Elon Musk takeover and everyone 651 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 1: a Twitter gets fired and the whole thing gets shut down, 652 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: I think they would choose door number two. I know 653 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: that sounds crazy, but I think this is almost This 654 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: is they're on a mission here. This is important to 655 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 1: their sense of where they who they are in the 656 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: world and in history. Over at Twitter, what and what 657 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: they'll do buck is they'll find an investment bank that 658 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: is going to say this offer isn't high enough. Twitter's 659 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: value as a business is more substantial. The problem with that, 660 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,720 Speaker 1: Buck is if that were true, somebody else would be bidding. 661 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: And right now it doesn't appear that's occurring. Maybe it will. 662 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 1: If it doesn't happen, that investment bank is going to 663 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,879 Speaker 1: be in a tough spot to argue that they are 664 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,720 Speaker 1: fulfilling their finuciary duty by not accepting the highest offer 665 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: and putting the money in the pocket. Here's the other pressure, Buck, 666 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: You know this you invest ain't been a good year 667 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: for stocks. Yeah, it's been rough. It's been rough for 668 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: the clay and bucket, I gotta get I gotta get 669 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: car shield from my electric scooter because you know it's 670 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: I need to make sure I'm prepared for expenses. So 671 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: all these hedge fund guys and all these equity fun 672 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: guys who run these businesses, they want to bank the 673 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 1: twenty percent gain that they get if they sell their 674 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: Twitter stock, because not only are they not getting to 675 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,439 Speaker 1: bank it, they're going to lose money because the stock 676 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: price is going to decline come Monday. And so if 677 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: they had the right to choose whether or not to 678 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: let Elton sell their buy their stock. Given how poorly 679 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: many stocks have done in twenty twenty one already, they 680 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: get judged by the percentage return they post. Buck, they 681 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: want to take the money, they want to get out. 682 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: They want that return. So this is going to turn 683 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: into I think a real battle royale between capitalists and 684 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: between communists. Speaking of communists, somebody who loves to take 685 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: the fight to them. Our buddy Jesse Kelly, the syndicated 686 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: radio host of The Jesse Kelly Show. They out of Houston, Texas. 687 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: He'll be with us here. Let's talk about everything going 688 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: on this week. He's always got a insightful and often 689 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: very amusing take on what's going on und the world. 690 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 1: Will discuss that, plus what else do we have going 691 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: on here? We haven't really talked much about COVID today. 692 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: We also could follow up with more on Ukraine, so'll 693 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: stick around. Big third hour coming your way. Sleet, Travis 694 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth