WEBVTT - Episode 15: Shay Knight 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:02.400 The guys from Ping. They've kind of showed me how 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:05.120 much the equipment matters. I just love that I can 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:06.600 hit any shot I kind of want. 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:08.520 We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:10.640 what goes on here to help golfers play better golf. 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:14.120 Welcome back to the Ping Proving Grounds Podcast. Shane Bak 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:17.320 and Marty Jertsen. We're in the Ping truck. Always excited 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:19.520 to be back, and we're with a man that does 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:22.360 a lot a lot of work week to week. Shane 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:26.600 Knight's with us, of course, the caddy for Victor Howlin Shae. Recently, 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:28.720 you were a part of of one of the great 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:31.080 final rounds, one of the great final nine holes that 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:35.360 we've ever seen, when Victor tore part Olympia Fields. Is 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:37.239 that the best golf you've ever seen? Is that the 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:38.320 best golf you've been a part of. 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:39.599 It was like playing a video game. 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:43.599 It was unbelievable to be a first hand witness of that, 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:46.680 you know, standing up by the bag and just experiencing, 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:48.879 you know what he went through and you know the 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:49.400 shot city. 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:50.600 It was remarkable. 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:53.559 I think whenever there's like a round like that. Obviously, 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:57.520 Victor hit tons of incredible shots, very very straight, but 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:00.320 you also have to get lucky a little bit. What 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.320 were a few things there in that final round around 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:06.200 that back nine where you know maybe the luck went 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:06.640 his way? 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:09.400 Well, definitely fourteen, You know with that lie that he 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:12.280 had should chip the driver off the tea and just 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:14.240 missed it in the left rough and you know the 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:16.440 grain was going with us, but you know there's a 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:19.880 toft of grass behind the ball and you know nine nine. 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:20.440 Couldn't get there. 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:21.840 He had to hit the ad iron but it had 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.080 to come out perfectly, and you know obviously it did 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:25.640 and you know, knocked it to a foot. 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:27.959 Make berdie from there was incredible. 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.560 Shit. What's that? What's that conversation like between you and 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:33.880 Victor on that lie? Because I remember watching on TV 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:37.000 and they had you guys miked up at Memorial was in. 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:39.559 The playoff, in the playoff. 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:40.800 And the t shot ended up right there on the 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:42.400 edge of the rough and the fair way too. 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:43.319 What is that? 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:47.240 How? What is your contribution in talking through the shot 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:48.680 selection there with Victor and. 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:51.600 More, you know, just giving him reassurance, you know, especially 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:56.200 Memorial when obviously long's no good, but you know, to 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:58.200 hit the wedge the way he did. You know, we 0:01:58.200 --> 0:01:59.680 thought it was going to come out hot, and it 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:02.160 kind of did. It needed to to get to cover 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:05.880 that bunker. But yesterday on fourteen, we knew nine nine 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:07.800 couldn't get there, and we knew that there was a 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:09.359 false front and was going to come all the way 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:11.440 back down. So he had to take the shot on 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:13.840 and he did, being the aggressive player that he is, 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:15.960 and you know, obviously he pulled it off. 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:19.640 Yeah, Shay, what has the last year been like in 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:21.880 terms of the development of Victor Harvin Because you kind 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:23.399 of go back to the Open last year. Of course 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:25.560 he was in the final group with Rory on Sunday, 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:27.600 think about the PGA Championship this year. But I mean, 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:29.720 he's on a run. He's not missing cuts, he's playing 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:32.880 very consistent golf. The pitching and chipping has improved a lot. 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:35.440 It feels like the complete game is there. But what 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:37.880 has it been like mentally for him over the last 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:39.359 year to kind of take this next step? 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:41.320 Yeah, and that's the hardest part because you know, when 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:44.320 you start playing better, your expectations get higher, so you 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:47.080 put more pressure on yourself and you know, it's trying 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:52.399 to manage that try to you know, have a slice reality, 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:54.919 so to speak, in terms of you know, not being 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:58.440 able to play perfect golf and accepting that and understanding that, 0:02:58.560 --> 0:02:59.640 you know, golfs. 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:00.720 Are fall for a reason. 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.480 So you know, for him to go out and you know, 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.799 the consistency that he's showing, you know, week in week 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:11.200 out this year has been you know, it's been spectacular. 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:13.280 Going back to Saint Andrews and then you think about 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:15.480 oak Kill and I mean, he played excellent golf at 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:17.400 oak Hill really until the bunker shot was that on 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:20.840 sixteen sixteen? So what was Victor like going to the 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:22.880 final round at Saint Andrews Because I mean he hit 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:24.760 it close on one, he mister short birdie putt and 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:27.480 didn't really factor in that Sunday versus going to that 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:31.320 PGA Championship playing alongside another heavy hitter on that Sunday. 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:33.560 What was Victor like at the PGA this year versus 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:34.560 maybe the Open last year. 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:37.280 It's funny because whenever Victor gets off to a good start, 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:41.240 you know, he always takes that momentum forward. Whereas when 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:42.720 he gets off to a shaky start, he missed a 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:43.600 couple of puts early. 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.120 That's when you know, you're thinking. 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:48.400 You know, is is he going to change the momentum 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:50.960 or is it going to continue the same. And you 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.880 know that was the difference between the Open and the PGA, 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:56.960 because you know, the Open, as you said, he missed 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:00.400 a couple of short puts early and PGA a couple 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:03.080 of short parts earlier and he took the momentum moving forward. 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:06.880 Yeah, it seems like I just it's so fun to 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:10.080 watch Victor making a lot of birdies on tough golf 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:13.400 courses against the strongest fields. I mean, I tell us 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:15.000 a little bit about it. I think at Augusta this 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:18.440 year he made five birdies in a row. What are 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:21.040 those stretches? Like? Like, what are you guys talking more? 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:24.600 Talking less? Is he just in the zone? What's it 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:27.080 like when he's on a heater like he's like like 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:29.200 he was a few weeks ago into Augusta. 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.960 As we all know, Like you know, he's an unbelievable 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:34.880 ball striking. He drives the ball extremely well and he's 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:38.320 irons when it's on. You know, he hits fades so 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:41.520 he has full control over the ball, knowing that the 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:43.000 ball was going to get left to right, and that's 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:45.240 why he can be so aggressive, so you know, if 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:49.000 he can control his distance, and especially around Augusta, you know, 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:52.320 that's extremely important around there to be able to do that. 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.080 So you know, that's the most important thing for him. 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.240 And you know when he's on, he's just got no fear. 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:59.080 He's just such an aggressive player. 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.240 Did you get introduced to Victor and going through your 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:05.200 career and kind of looking at along some of the 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:07.520 players that you've kind of teamed up with over the years, 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:10.400 what is it like taking maybe a flyer on a 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:12.560 young player even though he's obviously was a great young 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:13.840 player and had come off that us. 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:15.600 Am went, yeah, for sure, Like you know, I was 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:18.159 working for Shawn a Hab you know, it was four 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:20.599 and a half years ago now, and he he got injured, 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:23.039 and you know, I was pretty much looking for work, 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:26.120 being a little freelancer, you know, cutting for odds and 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:26.760 ends here. 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:28.960 When you're looking for work as a caddy, I mean, 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:32.040 is it are you kind of letting other caddies know, like, Hey, 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:35.160 I'm available, Like I'm I'm I'm golf tender if anybody 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:35.440 wants to. 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:39.000 I wish it was like that. You know, it's like 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:40.400 a fraternity out here. It really is. 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:43.480 Everyone knows, you know, who's looking, who's you know, who 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:47.480 got fired, who you know, who's whatever it is is 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:51.240 injured exactly. So Joe Scovern, who's a good friend of mine, 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:54.080 he worked for Ricky Fowler for a long time. Sam McNaughton, 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:58.800 who is Ricky's agent, and he's obviously Victor's agent as well, 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:03.680 so you know, that's how the team came along. And yeah, 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:06.919 Sam called me up and asked if I'd be interested 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:09.320 in trying it out for this with this young kid, 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:11.800 you know, obviously he won the US Amateur and so 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:13.920 I flew out the Steelwater. You know, I wanted to 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:17.279 introduce myself beforehand because we met in Mexico a couple 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:20.080 of years prior, where I just you know, because he 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:22.040 was going to Australia for the Australian Open and I'm 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:24.760 obviously from Australia and he was playing in Sydney, so 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:26.800 we're just talking about that. But that was the first 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:29.760 time that I actually spoke to him, and yeah, so 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:33.000 I flew to Steelwater, had breakfast with him, and just 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.479 to hang out and make sure you know, there was 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:38.560 a bond there, you know, because you pretty much know 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:40.560 straight away whether you're going to get on or night, 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:42.880 and yeah, it just went from there and you know, 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:47.080 obviously we started the Travelers and yeah, the rest is history. 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:49.239 It's been unbelievable, right the last four years. 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:52.720 Yeah, Victor's game is a volve. Obviously came out as 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:56.040 a superstars ball striking. Even when he played in the 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:58.760 US Open as an amateur, like. 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:01.000 Twenty nineteen nineteen at. 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:02.880 Pebble, he either led the field, is very close to 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:06.520 leading the field and strokes game ball striking. What what 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:09.320 has it been like seeing other parts of his game 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:12.880 you mentioned short game evolve in these in these four years, 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:15.400 which parts of his games have been fun for you 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:16.720 to watch kind of improve? 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:21.320 It's been an interesting ride because you know, he's obviously 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:24.080 a cutter of the golf ball. You know, with the 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:29.760 way he he's wrist angles, et cetera. He cuts the ball. 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:32.040 And you know, he went down a stage where he 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:38.480 tried to hit the draws, try and get the numbers 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.680 more closer to zero from a TrackMan perspective, yep, and 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:43.880 you know it's difficult for him to do. So we 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:47.360 went down that road and now he's back to hitting 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:49.760 the cuts and back to knowing where the ball is 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:52.280 going to go, and you know, like you said, with 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:54.880 the chipping and pitching, you know, Joe Mayo has done 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:58.960 an amazing job helping him with that to make him 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:01.440 more of a complete player, which is where he's at now. 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:04.440 When you talk about being a cutter of the gobbel, 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:05.800 which is a lot of the modern players, a lot 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:07.600 of the players obviously moved the ball left or right. 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.320 You get on the tee at thirteen at Augusta, what 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.400 are you saying to Victor when you know the ball's 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:14.760 got to go the other way, maybe an uncomfortable direction 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:15.240 for him. 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:17.400 Well, it's actually a lot easier now because you know 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:21.000 they right with the tea box is probably let's. 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:22.760 Say, the up to let's say last year's tea at 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.080 the Masters. What are you saying to Victor when you 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:26.640 know that ball's got to go the way he doesn't 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:27.280 like to see it go. 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:28.400 Well, it's three wood. 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:31.280 All day, Okay, Yeah, So it's not Driver because Driver 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:34.120 is so narrow it brings the right pines into play. 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:37.280 And you know, we know very well what. 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:41.120 It's like over there, unless you Phil Mickelson Jordan exactly. 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:43.720 But no, it's just you know, he tends to hit 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:46.240 that three withood a lot straighter, especially when the winds 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:48.439 out of the left. That's why he finds it difficult 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:50.680 with the driver when the wind's out of the left. 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:54.400 So it's most of the time it's threewood off the 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:57.679 tee and just get it in play, and yeah, go 0:08:57.760 --> 0:08:58.440 from there. 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:02.880 Say what's been what's been one of maybe your biggest 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:06.479 regrets as a caddy right now, maybe even with Victor 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:09.160 or any of your players, And a regret could be 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:13.160 maybe you know, advising on the you know the distance, 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:16.160 the win, reading the lyron, some of that nature. 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:19.960 What's the worst time you've done your job? What's like 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:22.200 the worst part the worst job you've ever done as 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:22.559 a caddy? 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:25.320 I remember this is one. 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:28.760 This is way back, but I remember cutting for Shauna 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:33.280 Hair and he was We're at the Scarlet Golf Course 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:36.079 in Ohio and we're playing with the Web finals and 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:37.680 he's playing extremely well. 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:38.760 He's in the third round. 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:41.120 I think he's coming fifth, and he missed the first 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:43.400 two cuts to two weeks prior, so he's got to 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.599 play well this week to get his job back on 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:49.439 the PGA Tour. And we get up on number ten, eleven. 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:51.560 We get up on number twelve. The part five you 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:55.240 know makes Berdie run to thirteen. He's team off first, 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:58.240 running up, getting the yardage. Give him the yardage, you know, 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.920 hit six nine flushes it posing on it straight over 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:05.160 the green and he looks at me and straight away 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:09.560 I look back and they moved the tee and I'm like, 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:11.640 I look back and I'm like, I just put my 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:16.280 head down. I'm like, I'm so sorry. And him, to 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:19.360 his credit, he's an unbelievable guy. And I'm walking down 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:22.360 the down the hill and I was just so upset 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:27.200 with myself, like I just unimaginable. And he gets up 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:29.920 there and he gets his wedge. He taps me on 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:31.520 the back of the leg. He goes, Shay, I got you. 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.560 It's an unbelievable flop shot to like three feet holds 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:38.600 apart for par Wow. And I'm like, Sean, thank you. 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:41.840 That was That was the one moment where I wish 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:42.600 I could take back. 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:44.760 But obviously, oh that's an incredible story. 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:45.440 Shae. 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:48.000 What's your journey been like to get to this position? 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.120 Can you walk us through maybe your career as a 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:52.880 caddy and really your career throughout golf yeah, it's. 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:54.439 You know, I play golf my whole life. You know, 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:55.199 I love the game. 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:57.600 Played a lot of golf back in Australia, a lot 0:10:57.640 --> 0:10:59.439 of amateur events, never turned professional. 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:01.360 Really was good enough. 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:03.840 I wasn't long enough, had an unbelieable short game, but 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.439 you know, just knew in my heart that I didn't 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:09.560 have it. And you know I lived in Sydney and 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.079 I played with Matt Jones. We're members of the Steam 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:15.840 Golf Course, this Ruling Golf Club in Sydney, and you 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:18.880 know we're good friends. We always play golf together, traveled together. 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:20.920 We drove to Adelaide them back. 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:22.880 Which was that was an interesting drive. 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:25.160 That car stunk by the by the end of the 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:29.800 oh my gosh, drive it through Adelaide. But yeah, no, 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:33.600 and yeah, he went to a s u and and 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:36.520 then went on the he was on the court, well 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:41.800 the what was it called back in the day, and 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.120 he just couldn't get his card and he said, you know, 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:45.640 I want you to come over and caddy for me. 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.720 And I was landscaping, landscaping back home and you know, 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.920 finished my course and I love being outside, so you know, 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.200 I was doing that and I'm like, okay, I'll take 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:57.640 a chance. So it came over. Lived together, traveled together, 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.120 worked together. You know, we were in each other's pockets 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:03.160 and by the end of it it was like I 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:06.160 wanted to kill him, but he got his tour Cardney 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:08.640 and I went back home and didn't think anything of it. 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:10.120 And he's like, show, I want you to come back, 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:14.080 and I'm like, well, I'll come back, but you're going 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:15.880 to do your thing. I'm going to do my thing. 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:17.160 We're going to meet in the middle like. 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:20.719 Normal player caddy relationship does. And yeah, worked with him 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.160 for five and a half years, had a great time, 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.360 and you know, I moved on from there, worked for 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:28.800 Martin lad Scottish guy, worked with him for a couple 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:29.199 of years. 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:31.560 Only the only Scottish golfer that hits it higher than 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:34.040 anybody on tour. By the way, Yes, it's incredible to 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:38.040 watch thee I knock it down and cuts it more. 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:40.760 Than Yes, exactly, Yeah, he cuts it more than Victor. 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:41.960 For shocking to see. 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:44.080 I thought Scottish golfers hit. 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:47.080 It well, yeah, no, it's it launches straight at the end, 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:49.839 these big cuts like he uses the whole fairway, that's 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.720 for sure. But yeah, worked for him for two years 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:55.840 and then I got fired from him and Sean O'Hare 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:59.120 was available. Work with Sean for five years, and yeah, 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:02.080 now I'm with Victors. So it's been an unbelievable ride. 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.640 It's gone so fast. I still can't believe I've been 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:05.840 on tour for sixteen years. 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:06.560 I just can't. 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:10.920 Although the Grays probably showed that sheep yesterday, but I 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:12.800 was gonna. I was going to shave last night. But 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:16.080 I said to Victor, I'm like, it's a good luck charm. 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:17.000 I can't do it. 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:20.760 When when when Victor wins, you know, he does all 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:22.560 the press, he does all the media, he has to interviews. 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:25.440 I mean, people don't understand how long that evening is. 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:27.600 If you win a big golf tournament. Do you guys 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:29.760 meet up at any point on the back end of that, 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:31.640 like go have a beer or go hang out or 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:32.160 do anything like that. 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:33.040 Yeah, like anyone. 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:37.200 You know the BMW, we were there and we were 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:39.120 just waiting for him, obviously, did you know, all his 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.720 media and he had to sign what felt like a 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.960 hundred flags, et cetera. So I'm sure his hand was 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:47.800 sore after that. But you know what, the way they 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:52.520 treated us at the BMW was just first class. 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:54.200 We had BMW. 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:57.199 Courtesy cars, we had food available at I suppose it 0:13:57.240 --> 0:14:01.439 was like beyond first class. So yeah, after the round, 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.440 the gentleman who was serving us all week said, you know, 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:06.480 can we get you any food. I'm like, well, you know, 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:08.640 a nice steak would be nice. They brought out three 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.800 steaks salad waiting for Hobby to come back, and you know, 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.160 so we all ate together and then he's like, oh, 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:15.360 do you want some dessert and. 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:18.200 I'm like, ahn, no, no, I'm good. 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:20.840 And they're going to make these guinness. It's a Guinness 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:23.480 with ice cream in it. I'm like that sounds disgusting. 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:25.240 But anyway, so we said no to that. 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:29.480 So the chef ended up bringing out these brownie homemade 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:32.840 brownie with this chocolate ice cream cherry in it, and 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:34.960 I'm like it was just like I had a couple 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:38.560 of scoops, but yeah, the the ice cream doesn't usually 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:41.400 handle the stomach too well, so I only had a 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:42.000 couple of bites. 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:43.480 But yeah, it was great. 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.720 That sounds incredible. Now, Shure, what's your what's your favorite 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:51.120 course to caddy at throughout the year, like or top 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:52.080 two or three. 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:53.120 By far Pebble Beach. 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:55.600 Okay, I love Pebble even though it's you know, we 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:59.440 usually play with amateurs and usually miserable weather. But just 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:02.840 just the view out there. I love that scenery. You 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:06.120 know when you get on seven, eight nine, it's just 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:08.640 you know, you stand there and you're Amatea's are letting 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:10.400 it fly left and right. I'm just looking out of 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:14.000 the ocean, you know. Maoi's nice as well. That's another one, 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:17.760 and obviously Augusta. But Augusta is it's like a love 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:22.040 hate relationship because it's so stressful because you know everyone 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:24.760 wants to win Augusta and you go there, it's like 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:28.560 the holy Grail of golf. It's in immaculate condition and 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.760 you know, walking on those on those fields is like, 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:33.720 you know, being in Heaven. To be honest with you, 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.840 I'd like my ashes to be on Amen corner when 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:38.720 I die, watch watch the cartage come in. 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:42.600 But a yeah, those three courts would probably be my three. 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:45.640 What's it? Obviously we're in the ping tour truck. What's 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:48.120 it like having something like this available week to week 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:50.280 for you when you need to come tweak something for 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:52.360 Victor or he wants a new club We talked a 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:54.320 lot this year about the seven Woody threw in the 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:56.920 bag at the Master talking about Augusta, Nashville. That was 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.600 really for two shots the entire day, So really, what 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:01.840 was that eight shots for the week. He's basically putting 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:03.680 a new golf club in. What's it like having this 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:05.360 truck available at your disposal? 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:07.600 Yeah, well, I don't really do my cheese, not many kicks, 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:09.320 especially kidding. 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:14.520 No, it's obviously amazing to have that at Victor's disposal 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.360 whenever you need it, you know, whatever it is, whether 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:20.400 you need Tea's or I need a new hat, you 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:21.160 sweat through it. 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.800 It's just yeah, it's once again first class. 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:26.320 What's he particular about, because we've talked to a few 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:29.200 players about you know, they want to see the loft, 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:30.720 they want to see the bend, they want to make 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.600 sure everything's regripped week to week. What's something that Victor's 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:36.280 particular about, either within his bag or in his bag. 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:39.280 He's not very particular with grips, et cetera. But you know, 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:42.080 just trying to doal in those numbers, you know, because 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:44.840 you need to be so precise with your distance control, 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.080 you know, on the PGA tour because you just can't 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:47.760 play from long. 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.880 So you you guys, Victor plays in meters, tell us 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:52.560 how that works out here? Is it? Is he one 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:54.280 of the only players that does that. Do they make 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.280 a separate book? Do do you get a separate book 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:57.560 or do you do conversions? No? 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:00.000 No, Well it's funny because you know, when we're all 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:00.640 the corn. 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:04.439 Ferry, we had just yardage books those finals, and I 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:07.959 had to convert both books from yards to meters. 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:09.919 But now I'm lucky enough with. 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:13.879 Oh my gosh, it's like two hours of torture your 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:17.560 heads unbelievably sold by the end of it. But nowadays 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:20.000 it's on the PGA tour. Yeah, they do meters books. 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:23.040 There's probably half a dozen guys that working meters as well. 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:25.359 I worked in meters when I was younger, you know, 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:28.119