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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. We all about

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Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl drama, Girl, all about them.

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Speaker 2: High school queens.

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Speaker 1: We'll take you for a ride, and our comic girl

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Speaker 1: shared for the right teams.

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Speaker 2: Drama, Queens of girl Fashion, but your tough girl, you

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Speaker 1: Girl Drama, Queens, Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Drahma, Queens

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Speaker 1: Drama Queens.

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Speaker 3: I feel like at the top, it's worth noting that

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Speaker 3: I like barely finished this episode because I was dealing

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Speaker 3: It felt very one Tree Hill.

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Speaker 2: How are you dealing with high school sports stuff?

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Speaker 3: Because my son plays on a high school team. He's

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Speaker 3: a novice. They bump up the eighth graders, and so

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Speaker 3: Gus is so us because there's bullying going on with

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Speaker 3: the upperclassmen and Gus this week was.

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Speaker 4: Like not today, not today.

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Speaker 3: He's like Nathan Scott, we only believe in positive leadership.

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Speaker 2: Now there you go.

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Speaker 3: And I just love how this show infant rds every

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Speaker 3: corner of our life still the time.

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Speaker 5: It's amazing all the time.

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Speaker 2: Well, on that note, why don't we get started? Season six,

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Speaker 2: episode twenty one, A Kiss to Build a Dream on

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Speaker 2: air date April twenty seventh, two thousand and nine. This

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Speaker 2: episode's synopsis is Peyton and Lucas take a trip in

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Speaker 2: the comet in the past, and she struggles with the

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Speaker 2: could change Sam's life, that absolutely will change Sam's life.

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Speaker 2: Nathan questions his dreams of playing in the NBA, while

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Speaker 2: Hayley receives an unexpected offer from who. Jamie and Skills

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Speaker 2: Men their broken hearts at Jamie's first school dance. I

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Speaker 2: loved this sequel and Lucas and Peyton remember they remember

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Speaker 2: a memorable road trip they took together after high school.

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Speaker 3: I love remembering memorable both things.

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Speaker 5: Memories.

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Speaker 3: I liked this episode. I didn't take notes because I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this felt like such an eighties movie to me.

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Speaker 2: The whole episode was like a fun eighties movie, especially

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Speaker 4: I'm seeing Erica Dunton directed it, Oh did she?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Erica was a staple. Her dad, Joe.

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Speaker 3: Dunton, owned the camera house in Wilmington where we got

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Speaker 2: That's awesome.

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Speaker 5: I loved some of those classic choices you're referencing, like that,

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Speaker 5: the dynamic of skills in Jamie. These two boys kind

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Speaker 5: was like twenty one Jump Street but better. I loved it.

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Speaker 3: She understands that dynamic of drama and comedy and sometimes

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Speaker 2: Is It's a fine line, isn't it, between drama and comedy.

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Speaker 2: You know, it seems like people think of it as

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a good chick and very British, you know.

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Speaker 3: I like a British sensibility brought to Tree Hill. We

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Speaker 4: It just felt so big.

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Speaker 3: I feel like we were all over town, Like, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Though we've got all these different little pockets of storylines,

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Speaker 5: I love the dynamic. I love getting to see, you know,

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Speaker 5: You don't know, I don't know. It was just all

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Speaker 3: I learned stuff in this episode with Peyton and Lucas.

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Speaker 4: I thought it here, no, right, she.

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Speaker 3: Thuds Haley with the song in this episode, and then

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Speaker 5: Hey, your art mattered.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying for those of you out there, thud

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Speaker 4: It's a great time.

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Speaker 5: You know what else I really liked about the flashback

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Speaker 5: I was like, oh my god, I didn't know she

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the same. And I loved it how far you

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Speaker 2: I think Nathan is kind of going through the same

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Speaker 5: That was really powerful dialogue. It was such a simple thing,

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Speaker 5: That's really powerful language. And I thought that was such

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Speaker 5: You know, to have someone who tells you not to

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Speaker 2: You can change your mind about a dream, but to

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Speaker 3: Well, especially as how old are these characters. What are

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Speaker 3: to let my dream go? No, bitches, We're in our forties,

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Speaker 4: Keep going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a question, I'm a very important question.

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Speaker 4: I think that was a happy accident, was it? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: It was a football catch with an airplane.

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Speaker 3: I guess I'm just saying art. It was so great,

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Speaker 3: so many arts and crafts in this episode, Between Brooks

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Speaker 4: And Hailey singing songs, we were.

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Speaker 2: Just Victorian art shredding paper.

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Speaker 3: I guys, I wow, Toria and San Sam.

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Speaker 5: I did too.

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Speaker 4: And I feel like such a trader, but I love.

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Speaker 5: It, by the way I should. I should feel like

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Speaker 4: Such a great lie.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, that made my hair raise up

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Speaker 5: Well, she never liked Brook either, damn it.

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Speaker 3: Guys, it's just occurring to me that Brooks whole fixation

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Speaker 4: And Sam's just the youngest.

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Speaker 5: Well, And what I think I like is because Brooke

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Speaker 5: And it's like the most loving I've ever seen Victoria

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting that they didn't really touch on the

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Speaker 5: I think that's really common though, And we talked a

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Speaker 5: and Brooke very much is like, you don't get to

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Speaker 5: Like we both were being insane.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, points were made Victoria look at her with the

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Speaker 3: growth and Daphne's just so fun. What a cool thing

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Speaker 2: So much to learn. Also, how does Daphne get that

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Speaker 5: Oh, find out.

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Speaker 3: Your hair was great this episode, Joy you had Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you guys had great hair.

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Speaker 2: It was big hair, big hair, big hair for you too,

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Speaker 3: They were so how many times have we played this

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Speaker 4: I've done it two or three times.

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Speaker 3: They've got poor Ashley doing it, you know, like everybody's.

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Speaker 4: Doing the BedHead thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, except for Brooke who always wakes up with the

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, oh when I had these seasons that I

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Speaker 6: You guys, I miss it.

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Speaker 3: Hillary.

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Speaker 5: I need to know some things because because our pal

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Speaker 5: Nickolache is married to your pal from MTV, The Lovely Vanessa.

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Speaker 5: I how did he wind up on our show girl?

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Speaker 5: I was so confused. I couldn't remember why. In later episodes,

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Speaker 4: There are we that base you brazen husse?

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Speaker 5: I didn't know if we somehow got to Nick Lache

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Speaker 3: I've known Nixon like you know, the Newlyweds days before

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Speaker 3: So Kevin Fetterline coming in and having that arc got

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Speaker 3: I love the Brook Davis doesn't give a shit about

441
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 3: Julian in this episode.

442
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 4: Not no, she's just busy, man. I just cried in

443
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 4: the airport for five home minutes.

444
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 3: Busy, and I appreciate that as a woman because I

445
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 3: feel like if a man had written this episode, there

446
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 3: would have been a soliloquy somewhere about.

447
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 4: I locked myself at the bathroom with it.

448
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, there would have been some heartbreak. And I love

449
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:49,479
Speaker 5: that because Karen did. It's it's Victoria's observation rather than

450
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 5: Brooke having to do onscreen exposition.

451
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, good.

452
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 4: And then Nick's just a reminder that like she can

453
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,439
Speaker 4: get whatever she wants, she doesn't have to go to

454
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 4: La La homes to her heart.

455
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, and I loved it in a way. He

456
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 5: continues your joke Joy where you know, sweet Kate is like,

457
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 5: but she's Brooke Davis and You're like, yeah, you're Mia Catalano,

458
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 5: and it like goes back and forth, back and more

459
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 5: than then Nick says to Chase, like, yo, Brooke Davis,

460
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 5: and poor Kate's just like say, you know, she's so pissed.

461
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 5: It's so it's just so so funny, and it allows

462
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 5: Stephen to come in and pick up where Haley left

463
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 5: off and be like, but you're the one, Like you're

464
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 5: the one. I'm really like, yeah, grown up in love

465
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,959
Speaker 5: with and it's so cutie.

466
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 2: So here's something I thought was weird when Mia is

467
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 2: speaking of that moment when Mia is saying she's so

468
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 2: insecure because you know, his first time was with Brooke,

469
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 2: and Haley's like, yeah, well you know you're pretty great too, basically,

470
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 2: but she just brushes it off and she's like, I

471
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:49,719
Speaker 2: don't want to talk about this anymore.

472
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 4: Haley is focused. She's focused.

473
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 2: But what's so weird is that considering how big of

474
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 2: a deal it was to Haley in high school when

475
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 2: she found out that.

476
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 5: Oh, that's right, Hailey was obsessed.

477
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 2: About this, right, you're wrong. She knows what it feels like.

478
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 2: So the fact that when Mia is really freaking out,

479
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 2: she's just like, get over it. It's fine.

480
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 3: Wait, but is it that the advice that Brooke Davis

481
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 3: gave to Haley in high school, like pass this is dumb.

482
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 5: Nobody cares well. But and the reality is like, what

483
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 5: the way I took it? Joy was that Haley is like,

484
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 5: I'm not opening this can of worms because if I do,

485
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 5: I'm going to have to tell you that my husband

486
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 5: lost his virginity to my sister. My husband slept with Brooke.

487
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 5: My husband slept with Peyton, my husband.

488
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 4: You know, like she's gonna have to be like you

489
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 4: think you have it bad.

490
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 5: Like literally Nathan has slept with every woman in Tree Hill.

491
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 4: But why did she?

492
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 2: But that actually would have been great to say, yeah,

493
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 2: full of like and look at where we are today,

494
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 2: like you just got to get over it.

495
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 5: Well, and also like that's literally what happens in small towns.

496
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, guys living in a small town right now, Yes,

497
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 3: that I'm here. I met a woman who lived here

498
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 3: in the village. My office is in the village, and

499
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 3: she was like, during the pandemic, I saw every affair

500
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 3: in town because they would have clandestine meetings and parking

501
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 3: lots and just hold hands with the masks on through

502
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 3: the cars. And I was like, tell me everything, small

503
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 3: town people just it's dosey dough man. It's like square dancing.

504
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 3: You gotta get it where you can, and it's usually

505
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 3: within like a four mile radius.

506
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, people are lazy.

507
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 3: I live out of the village, by the way, so

508
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 3: not participating.

509
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 5: Not participating. No, we've had enough of that.

510
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 3: I'm so happy to be old and settled at this point.

511
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 3: Like it just is a delicious, delicious place to view

512
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 3: everybody else's bullshit from I felt for Mia in this,

513
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 3: but I also was like, would mea care? Because they

514
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 3: have her as this like edgy lippy all in so

515
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 3: many of the other episodes, and here she's so like,

516
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 3: I'm confused about whether or not Mia dated Kevin fetterline

517
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 3: because I saw online somewhere that he was her ex boyfriend,

518
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 3: and I was like, what, I don't remember that? Is

519
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 3: Mia a virgin is because we just did that storyline

520
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 3: with Milly.

521
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 2: I don't think we ever even talked about that.

522
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 3: Like, Milly just did this storyline of virginity with Mouth

523
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 3: and Rachel and like all the chicks, the Mouth has

524
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 3: dated him.

525
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: Whatever.

526
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, her insecurity over that, And I was like, for

527
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 3: all the virginity storylines we're doing in season six about

528
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 3: grown ass adults, yeahy didn't we do these storylines in

529
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 3: season one and two with children? Yeah?

530
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 2: Strange?

531
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 5: I don't know.

532
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 2: I think it's dumb that Haley didn't want to sell

533
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 2: her song.

534
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 5: Why you think?

535
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

536
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: But baby, Like, maybe you just didn't want to sell

537
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 3: it to Nicholas Chef. If Grace Potter had walked in there,

538
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 3: Haley would have been like, Okay, girl, me no.

539
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 2: I think a girl living in a small town who's

540
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: not like I mean, I don't know, maybe I maybe.

541
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 2: I don't think I ever got a real grasp on

542
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 2: how how popular Haley was. It was very vague if

543
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 2: it was, like I just I don't really know. But man,

544
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 2: I can tell you living in Nashville now and working

545
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: with songwriters on a regular basis, Yeah, Like, I know,

546
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: I know what it feels like when a label comes

547
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 2: to you. It's happened to me a few months ago. Actually,

548
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: they come and they're like, we we love like these

549
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: five songs. We want to we want to sell them,

550
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: like can we send them out to artists? And you

551
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: have to make the decision do I want to keep

552
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,239
Speaker 2: them for myself and just try and do something with

553
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 2: them later, or or do I sell them? And the

554
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: amount of people that I've talked to about this and

555
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: the answer is always sell them. Oh, sell them. I mean,

556
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: there might be one or two that you feel really

557
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: special about that you want to hold too. But you

558
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: can always write more songs. There's an unending supply of

559
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: creativity if you're a if you're a writer, you can

560
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 2: just keep you just keep generating.

561
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 3: Well then or you can go record them yourself later

562
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 3: after they're a hit.

563
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely didn't.

564
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 3: Casey Musgraves do a lot of that. She was writing

565
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 3: for Miranda Lambert.

566
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you know she did, and now look at her.

567
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, killing it well.

568
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: By the way, this song was not actually for those

569
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:32,479
Speaker 2: of you at home. This was not written obviously by Hayley,

570
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 2: who is not a real person, nor was it written

571
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 2: by me. Was written No, This song was written by

572
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: Kara Dia Guardi and Jess Kate's wonderful songwriters, both of

573
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 2: them long long, long list of very famous songs you

574
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 2: can go look up.

575
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 5: Did Nick actually wind up releasing this song? Mm hmm,

576
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 5: okay wow released.

577
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: As a single. I think that's probably one of the deals.

578
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 2: Like we brought him in and it was it was like,

579
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: what do you have coming up? Maybe they had been

580
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: dealing with his PR people or something, and he was like,

581
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: I got this single, we'll write it into the show

582
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 2: extra press.

583
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

584
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 4: Is he on a Warner Brothers label?

585
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: Don't know, it.

586
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 5: Might have been, but yeah, it felt interesting because it

587
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 5: sounded obviously like a well produced song like the track.

588
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 4: In the episode Haley whipped that out.

589
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 5: He was so fast. I was like, damn. Haley's a

590
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 5: good produce like.

591
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: Davis making a dress took an hour, But yeah, it was.

592
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 5: It was funny to me watching it happen because I

593
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 5: was like, oh, I sort of love that. Haley's like, oh,

594
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 5: you want to sing my song? Prove it? Do it now?

595
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

596
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 5: Like no prep. I also was dying laughing. I was like, Okay,

597
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 5: go off, Nikolache. You just already have it perfectly memorized.

598
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 5: You don't need a music sheet. Fine, Like there's no

599
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 5: little podium stand in that recording studio for him.

600
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 2: Nah, we don't have time for that.

601
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 5: Just like, prove yourself to me, sir.

602
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 3: There was one moment where he gave Haley the ninety

603
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 3: eight degrees boy band.

604
00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 4: Point and I screaming, how are you keeping a straight phase?

605
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 3: Like?

606
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 4: I loved it.

607
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: I loved that so funny.

608
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 4: He's a good time.

609
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 3: Does Mia end up doing a duet with him? Like?

610
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:09,959
Speaker 4: Do you end up doing a duet with him?

611
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 3: I'm so curious about the trajectory of this Nick Lache arc.

612
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 4: Does he come back too? Yes, Sophia was saying, he

613
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 4: comes to my wedding with her?

614
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 5: Well, Joy was going to get her computer charger. He's

615
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 5: my date to Peyton and Lucas's wedding because I'm mad

616
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 5: at Julian.

617
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 2: We made him sit there for three days in a

618
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 2: wedding set.

619
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, you sure did.

620
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: That's amazing.

621
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 5: We put him in like a Men's warehouse tux.

622
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:39,479
Speaker 4: He's a good sport I thought Men's wear out. I

623
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 4: think he's a fine actor.

624
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 3: I mean he was given sitting at that bar, really

625
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 3: good little zingers.

626
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 2: Very comfortable on camera.

627
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, why doesn't Nick Lache do more acting?

628
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 2: That's a good question.

629
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 5: I don't know, because he's charming.

630
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

631
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 3: I can text Vanessa, Hi, baby, what's your husband doing

632
00:31:58,840 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 3: right now?

633
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

634
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 4: I love it.

635
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 3: I really loved when they got together.

636
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 4: That was a.

637
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 3: TRL match made in Heaven. Love those shoes.

638
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 5: I was very cute.

639
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: But he's hosting Love is Blind.

640
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 4: They host it together.

641
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just fun. But I gotta say he actually is.

642
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: He is a good actor. I enjoyed on camera. Yeah,

643
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: he has a good quality. I think I think he's

644
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 2: understanding himself by only doing reality. I think he could

645
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: get a get a job as an actor somewhere. Come on, Nick,

646
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: let us know what guys.

647
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 3: We're gonna cast Nick and something. Let's do it here

648
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 3: we come. Okay, what else happened in this episode? I mean,

649
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 3: it's just so much because I keep confusing twenty and

650
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 3: twenty one now and I'm still thinking about poor Jack

651
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 3: and sam oh oh.

652
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: Kind of off of Chase and Mia, Peyton says something

653
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 2: about when did Peyton kiss Chase?

654
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 3: It is when we first came back and we were

655
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 3: at a pool party and I was there to hook up.

656
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 4: With Lucas, but he it was with Lindsay.

657
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 3: And then Brooke was back and I don't know if

658
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 3: she was talking to Owen yet, but Chase was like, Sup,

659
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 3: she's back and we were just sitting there looking like losers,

660
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 3: and he leaned in and kissed me, and I was like,

661
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: bro I don't want to hook up with any more

662
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 3: of Brook's boyfriends. And he was like, no, We're just

663
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 3: making them jealous. And we turned around and you guys

664
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 3: were staring at us. That was a really long explanation.

665
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: Thank you, because I have no recollection of that. I

666
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: don't know why that moment passed through my brain.

667
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 3: It was kind of a blip, but it, you know,

668
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 3: it was a big moment for me. Yeah, because Peyton

669
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 3: being like I've kissed him. No, it was definitely twice. Sorry,

670
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 3: I mean he's a great kisser. Being able to objectively

671
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 3: say that someone's a great kisser, I think is something

672
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 3: that really only happens in our industry. I don't know that.

673
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 5: It's true.

674
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,719
Speaker 8: Oh we had Amy tipt in too, from Amy well,

675
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 8: because Amy was friends with Erica, right, yeah, that's right.

676
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 8: And Flaming Amy's was like a staple in town. It's

677
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 8: over by the college campus and it's this.

678
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 3: I don't even know what.

679
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 4: It's like a bowl, what was it?

680
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 3: Taco bowl?

681
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 5: It's a chicken spot. It's so cool.

682
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: If I ever went there. It's a cool looking little diner. Though.

683
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 3: That's the day that Chad and I found out that

684
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 3: the show wasn't coming back, or that, I'm sorry, I

685
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 3: take it back, that the show was coming back just

686
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 3: without us.

687
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 5: Wait, the day you were shooting your Flaming Amy's flashback, Yeah,

688
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 5: tell us everything, Well, we'd shot everything else, right Wait

689
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 5: wait wait, so you were doing these flashbacks, these like

690
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 5: this deep nostalgia episode, not knowing that it was teeing

691
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 5: up the exit.

692
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 3: So, oh boy, I was putting the blonde wig again

693
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 3: as a punishment for having red hair right, and I

694
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 3: noticed a conversation with like Brooke and Victoria where it

695
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 3: was like, are you really going to leave the company

696
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 3: and ruin the careers of all the people that you've

697
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 3: been Such a pointed conversation for you to have to

698
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 3: have because we were all in contract negotiations at this

699
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 3: point except me. I had never gotten a phone call

700
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 3: from anybody, and so they're making offers to everybody and

701
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 3: everyone was trying to hold the line and all they

702
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 3: needed were a couple people to sign on in order

703
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 3: for the show to come back, and Chad and I

704
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 3: never even got phone calls. So we were seated in

705
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 3: that diner booth and we're like, it's our last day

706
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 3: of filming. We did all of the present day stuff,

707
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 3: we did most of the flashback stuff, and all of

708
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 3: a sudden, our producer, Greg Prange is like, all.

709
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 4: Right, everybody, like pause, what you're doing? Circle up.

710
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 3: Just wanted to make the announcement the show is coming back.

711
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 3: We've been picked up for a seventh season. And Chad

712
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 3: looks at me and he's like, have you even gotten

713
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 3: an offer? I was like no, and he's like, I

714
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 3: haven't gotten an offer. And so around us. Everyone around

715
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 3: us is like hugging and high fiving. I mean, it

716
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 3: felt like balloons were dropping from the ceiling. Everybody was

717
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 3: so fucking pumped. And he and I just kind of

718
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 3: sat there and we knew it was coming. We had

719
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: you know, Peyton got hit by a car in the

720
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 3: last episode.

721
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 4: She's on her death bed, you know.

722
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 3: And he and I were the highest paid actors on

723
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 3: the show, and we do we were on the chopping block,

724
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 3: and so our bosses, Voldemort and other dipshits were in town,

725
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 3: and we said, can they come to set?

726
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 5: They were at the.

727
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 3: Production office and we were at Flaming Amy's, Like, can

728
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 3: they come to set? It's only it's two o'clock in

729
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: the afternoon. Can they come here and just like explain

730
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: to us what's going on? Is there something? Can so

731
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 3: and just talk to us?

732
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

733
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 4: They refused.

734
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 3: They would not come speak to us, and instead they

735
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 3: took other actors out to dinner that night to celebrate.

736
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 3: And so Chad and I wrap work and I got

737
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 3: to take that fucking wig off, and you know, there's

738
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 3: a sense of betrayal because you're like, huh, okay, cool,

739
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 3: we didn't hold the line, and so we'll go be

740
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 3: the expendable ones, fuck it. And Chad and I decide

741
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 3: for the first time ever in our time together in Wilmington,

742
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 3: that we are gonna go out together and we're gonna

743
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 3: tie one on. And so Chad and I ended up

744
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 3: at the Whiskey, which was like a bar right on

745
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 3: the corner of downtown, you know, and like metal bands

746
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 3: played there, and Bibbiss, our friend, would play there all

747
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 3: the time until two o'clock in the morning. He and

748
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 3: I are just like sweating and smoking and drinking and dancing,

749
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 3: and Chad's a very good dancer, and every college chick

750
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 3: in the place is like, oh my god, Lucas and

751
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: Peyton and they're really together and this is so crazy.

752
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 4: And it was insane.

753
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 3: And so then from two to three o'clock in the

754
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 3: morning we sat on on like a retaining wall downtown

755
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 3: and just really discussed, like we're out. We've had this

756
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 3: shit dangled over our heads. There's no one here who's

757
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 3: fighting for us.

758
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 4: You know.

759
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 3: The friendships are fake, it's not real. And we're gonna

760
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 3: go and we're just gonna do some other stuff and

761
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: we'll always tell each other the truth, you know, And

762
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 3: so he walked me home, and I remember that also

763
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 3: being kind of weird. It felt like a date. It's

764
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 3: the one date that I went on and it was

765
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 3: very platonic. And then I called him a cab and

766
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 3: even the cab driver was like, I'm picking up Lucas

767
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 3: Scott from Peyton Sore's house.

768
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: Like that's cuzy.

769
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 3: But from that moment on, for the whole rest of

770
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 3: this season, it was it was hell. It was really bad.

771
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 3: It was really bad because it was it was so pointed.

772
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 3: You know, I'd been the person to do every upfront,

773
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 3: every TCA, every advertiser dinner party. I hosted the launch

774
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 3: party for the CW when it you know, when you began.

775
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 3: I had been the company girl and it was the

776
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 3: biggest you.

777
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 2: And there were two episodes left at this point, right,

778
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 2: what is this twenty one?

779
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 5: I think? I think we do twenty four this season?

780
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 2: Oh we did twenty four, okay, I think?

781
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, And so it just it puts in

782
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 4: your head.

783
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 3: You just look at everyone around you and you're like,

784
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 3: I don't know what relationships are real, and I don't

785
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 3: know which ones are performative, and who's used me and

786
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 3: who actually loves me? And so that was that was hard.

787
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 3: It was really hard. But Chad and I had this

788
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 3: magic night. We still laugh about it.

789
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 4: I mean it was.

790
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 3: It was probably the hardest I ever partied in Wilmington.

791
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 3: And he didn't really drink, so I remember.

792
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 5: Being shocked, shocked.

793
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 3: He was drinking his like vodka cranberries. We were both

794
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,959
Speaker 3: just so blindsided by it, like we knew it was coming,

795
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 3: but until it happens.

796
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: That is wild. Hearing that all these years later, Like

797
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 2: I had no idea, it's all that's wild.

798
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 5: And I think, what's so surreal? And to your point,

799
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 5: And we talked about this a little bit last week,

800
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 5: that speech that like, oh, are you really going to

801
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 5: risk this for everyone? Yeah, the same thing we got

802
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 5: when we asked for help with our boss. People were like,

803
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 5: to ruin it. You're going to ruin it for everybody, Like, oh,

804
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 5: you guys can't figure out how to navigate like a

805
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 5: guy hitting on you. Oh the horror, like grow up.

806
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 5: All these people who have children will lose their jobs

807
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 5: if you ruin it. And you know, we had that

808
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 5: on our set. I had on my fucking neck set,

809
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 5: like we there was so much that was constantly told

810
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 5: to us and the thing that like is giving me

811
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 5: the visceral feeling that you're talking about is realizing like, oh,

812
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 5: these relationships aren't real, because I remember how hard all

813
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 5: those people, Voldemort and his little sidekick and all the

814
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 5: people in power on our show would say to us,

815
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 5: this is a family, this is a family. You have

816
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 5: to protect your family, you have to show up for

817
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 5: your family. You know, all these all these people on

818
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 5: our crew have families, and they're a part of our family.

819
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 5: Like they hit you so hard with like, you know,

820
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 5: families deal with shit, and so do we hear. And

821
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 5: then you realize like, oh, you want me to prioritize

822
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 5: y'all like my family. But you you don't even think

823
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 5: of me as a coworker. You think of me as

824
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 5: like a line item on a budget.

825
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

826
00:41:54,920 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 5: Oh and it's such an uneven scale. And what was

827
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 5: so surreal And you know, we've obviously talked about this

828
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 5: a lot, and I want to be careful, but like,

829
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 5: the thing that was so wild was, you know, in

830
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 5: relation particularly to you and Chad, like at least for

831
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 5: me being told like, well, you're the expendable one. We

832
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 5: added you last, we could get rid of you first.

833
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 5: So shame, you know. They put everybody in these positions

834
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 5: where we were like, Oh, they're going to be okay,

835
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 5: but I'm going to go, oh, they're gonna and I

836
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 5: don't know. It's it's like a really dark thing to

837
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 5: do to a bunch of twenty four year olds.

838
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 3: I'm every as this the season's winding down. I think

839
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 3: this is the closure that I needed, because I always

840
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 3: knew like that I was I was right to walk

841
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 3: away from this situation because it was awful and my

842
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 3: life is awesome because of that betrayal. I met my husband,

843
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 3: I had my kids, I got to do White Collar

844
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 3: with Willie Garson and that book, Like, my life is

845
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 3: so much better because I was betrayed here. And and

846
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 3: that's the thing that maybe I want anybody that listens

847
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 3: to this to.

848
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 4: Walk away with.

849
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 3: It's like the betrayal just opened the door for all

850
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 3: the awesome shit that I have now, And the people

851
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 3: who pushed me aside to leverage themselves had to stay

852
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 3: there and live in it and so.

853
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 4: That and live with you for doing that. Well, if they're.

854
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 3: Even aware that they did, they're aware, you know. But

855
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 3: that was kind of the fun of watching this episode today.

856
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 3: For me is that I didn't take notes because I

857
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 3: knew that it was a shit episode for me personally,

858
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 3: and I was like, I'm just going to enjoy it

859
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 3: as a viewer, and I did. Like I loved it

860
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 3: as a viewer. I liked who our characters are as people.

861
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: I think too. They're fun to watch and you know,

862
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 3: they play well nicely, And I get why people love it.

863
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 3: People who don't know the backstory super easy to love well.

864
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 5: Because everything you see on screen is is good and

865
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 5: you know it's It's such an example of that adage

866
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 5: like be kind because you just you never know what

867
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 5: battles people are fighting, Like we made a great product

868
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 5: despite the ways we were being manipulated and mistreated, and

869
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, like, I don't know, man,

870
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 5: I'm proud of the product. Yeah, And I know we've

871
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 5: had to say this to the fans, like we don't

872
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 5: we don't want you to love the show less because

873
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 5: of what was happening behind the scenes. In a way,

874
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 5: it taught us a lot. I mean, Hill, what you

875
00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 5: went through, Like I remember when I because it wasn't

876
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 5: when this was all happening, Like I remember when I

877
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 5: finally got told that you weren't coming back, and it

878
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 5: was like that's not possible, like I don't I don't understand.

879
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: Are they going to do the show without them?

880
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 5: And and the conversations we had, like that's something we

881
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 5: had a good time, like we talk about carrying on

882
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 5: the tradition of tying one on. We were like, let's

883
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 5: just sit here and open all these beers and talk

884
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 5: about it. And like, my god, when when I got

885
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 5: the inside baseball from you, like the pride, I mean,

886
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 5: like and we've talked about this too, like I will

887
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 5: always defend you to the death, like I know exactly

888
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 5: who you are in the way that I know you

889
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 5: know exactly who I am, And I think you know

890
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 5: if I may for me. Years later, when I was

891
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 5: going through what I was going through in Chicago, I

892
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 5: was like, oh, I can just leave.

893
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can just leave.

894
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 5: Like I've good soldiered, I've pretzeled myself. I've done everything

895
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 5: I'm supposed to do. I've gone by the book, I've

896
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 5: gone by the personal relationships, I've done the reporting. I've

897
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 5: done it all. And I was like, if it's not

898
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 5: going to matter, I'm gonna leave. I learned that from

899
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 5: one of my best friends.

900
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna leave y'all don't have to deal with that.

901
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 5: It's like, it's really so empowering though, And I think

902
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 5: to your point, like when you talk about what came after,

903
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 5: you know where it shifted you, the friendships, it gave you,

904
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 5: the marriage, it led you to like your whole life.

905
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 5: It it was a lesson then that you learned. It

906
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 5: was a lesson that I courageously. I felt like I

907
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 5: had the courage to learn on my own because of

908
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 5: our friendship. Like rejection sometimes is such protection. Yeah, and

909
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 5: you know, even like holy hell, like have I learned

910
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 5: that in the last year, And oh, I will take

911
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 5: it all day. Because when you when you can finally

912
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 5: stand and say I'm going to trust my instincts here,

913
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 5: and then you get all all the receipts and you're like,

914
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 5: look at me, I made a good decision.

915
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, the veil drops, but it changes your life in

916
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 3: a way, like everything shifts.

917
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 5: I think when you finally say okay, if this is

918
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 5: not for me, siya, what comes the minute you put

919
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 5: your hands up is so profound And I don't know it.

920
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 5: It's really wild to see how how much like romantic

921
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 5: happiness and fun you guys were having on screen and

922
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 5: knowing what was happening off screen, But like, I don't know,

923
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 5: I love this place for you. I don't love the wound,

924
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 5: but I love what the wound gave you.

925
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: Well, that's how you could have That's how we can

926
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 2: still appreciate what we see on camera and the stories

927
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 2: and we're told is knowing that that there's no perfect product,

928
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 2: there's no perfect relationship, there's no perfect anything. It's always

929
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 2: going to be a bit and the things that the

930
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 2: hard things that we go through make us who we are.

931
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 2: Being able to walk away from something that takes you

932
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 2: a really long time to realize that it's unhealthy is

933
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 2: incredibly powerful, and I've had to do that in my

934
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 2: own in my own ways. It wasn't with the show

935
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 2: in particular, because I didn't deal with a lot of

936
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 2: the same stuff that you guys did in that dynamic.

937
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: I mean I did, I think on the peripheral, But yeah,

938
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 2: it made it does kind of knowing the sweetness of

939
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 2: all the good things that have come makes me happy

940
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 2: watching watching this episode, watching things.

941
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 3: That there's nothing better than a girl that has just

942
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 3: hit the point of like fuck this right, Like because

943
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 3: then everything.

944
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 4: After that is fun.

945
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 3: Like I had fun because I knew I was out.

946
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 3: I've rented my apartment in Paris that I never went

947
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 3: to because I met Jeffrey.

948
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 4: You know, like, shit just got fun. I'm looking forward.

949
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 3: To future fun in these episodes because we gave zero

950
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 3: fox at this point.

951
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, these stopped trying to hold on and make anybody

952
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 2: else happy. You're like, you know what, I'm gonna go

953
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 2: do what's best for her.

954
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 5: Well, you know what, like a girl who's run out

955
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 5: of fox to give becomes dangerous, And it's really fun

956
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 5: when you realize, like, oh oh, I'm dangerous now, Okay.

957
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 3: When you established the reputation as being the one that'll

958
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 3: tell the truth, that's a powerful place to be. So

959
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 3: we've have a question though. We have a question from Natalie.

960
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 3: She says, if you had to pick another location for

961
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 3: Oth to be filmed or based in, where would it be?

962
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 3: I felt so spoiled in Wilmington. It still is the

963
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 3: prettiest place we've I've ever worked, and I've worked all

964
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 3: over the place.

965
00:49:58,360 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 2: I loved it.

966
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 5: I Yeah, gosh, I can't imagine it being filmed anywhere else,

967
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 5: but good god, do I wish it was filmed somewhere

968
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 5: with a direct flight.

969
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 4: Say, they still don't have one.

970
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 5: We still don't have one. How do we not have

971
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 5: like a Wilmington to Burbank? Like what are we doing? Yeah,

972
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 5: why don't we have one?

973
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 3: La Because there's not a runway long enough to land

974
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 3: a big cross country plane there. That's why, I mean,

975
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 3: or they can only it's only like that little New

976
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 3: York puddle jumper, you know. That's that's the joke in

977
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 3: the episode that n is that he's like I rode

978
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 3: in the middle.

979
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, a seat and coach.

980
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 6: Yeah.

981
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 2: There was a town when I was in high school.

982
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 2: My best friend in high school's family had a lake house.

983
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 2: It's a place called Green Pond, and it's just this

984
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: gorgeous little lake community in New Jersey, which is so

985
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 2: beautiful that I mean the fully it's the Garden State,

986
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, the foliage is unbelievable, and it's

987
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 2: a really kids fishing on the dock, ice cream in

988
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 2: the summer, golf carts roaming around. Everybody's just it's a

989
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 2: free for all, like you just let your kids go

990
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 2: and come back at dinner, like like it was the

991
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 2: eighties and it still is like that. I went back

992
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago and it's still like that,

993
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 2: And it's the closest thing I could think of to

994
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: what Tree Hill would have felt like. So that's gonna

995
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 2: be my vote.

996
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 3: I when I saw Megan Parks movie, my old ass

997
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 3: at Sundance, this location, I'm trying to where, where the

998
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 3: hell is it? This location in Canada, Musco Lakes, you guys, Yeah,

999
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 3: such tree Hill vibes. It was like Cranberry bogs, but

1000
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 3: the water was like so beautiful and everything was green

1001
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,760
Speaker 3: and kind of like they had a little small town

1002
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 3: and falling in love on the docks and just loved it.

1003
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 5: No, it's so beatiful. A lot of the folks who

1004
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 5: worked on the Good Sam crew, like a lot of

1005
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 5: our local Toronto crew, had had grown up with like

1006
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 5: little lake houses up in Muskoka. It's so gorgeous.

1007
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 4: She's trying to lure me up there, like.

1008
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 5: Let's go, let's go visit.

1009
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 7: Okay, Nate, what was our honorable MENTIONSH?

1010
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 4: I like school dances. I like school Dance.

1011
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 5: I loved that.

1012
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 2: I was happy to see bj Britt back too. I

1013
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 2: really like him. I really like him on camera. I

1014
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 2: wish we would have kept him for longer. Who places

1015
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 2: hiv on.

1016
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1017
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 2: Also, I think Nathan should have taken the European offer.

1018
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 4: I can't believe Haley didn't want to go to Europe, Like,

1019
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 4: on what planet?

1020
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 2: It's two years, It's like, yeah, babe, let's go.

1021
00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, cool, be there, I can write it home in Europe. Fine.

1022
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 3: She just wanted to pull Jamie out of school in

1023
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 3: the last episode, you know.

1024
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 4: Like they've only got one just go.

1025
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 3: Nobody thought this through.

1026
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 4: No, well, but was that.

1027
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 5: Thinking about how things were going, Like, was that part

1028
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 5: of the threat for you guys, Joy? Was it like,

1029
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 5: oh well if you don't, if you guys don't do this,

1030
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 5: we'll just say Nathan takes this deal. Yeah, be like bye.

1031
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1032
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 2: I mean it was all the and it's the same

1033
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 2: negotiating tactics that they used to do, and maybe I'm

1034
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 2: sure plenty of people still do it of telling everybody

1035
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 2: that everyone else is already signed on, is already negotiated.

1036
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 2: Oh well, I know you guys are trying to do

1037
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 2: Favorite Nations, but you know so and so already agreed

1038
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 2: to sign their contract, and so it's and then you know,

1039
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 2: we're calling agents and the agents are going, no, we

1040
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 2: haven't heard anything from them, but they told us that

1041
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 2: you blah blah blah, and it becomes such a huge mess.

1042
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 2: I just yeah, I remember that. That was definitely one

1043
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 2: of the storylines that was like, oh, we're just getting

1044
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 2: ready to tie this up if we need to, so don't.

1045
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't remember anything past that. I

1046
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 2: just know that it was definitely a threat of like,

1047
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 2: this show goes on without Haley, easy, go ahead.

1048
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 5: Well yeah, yeah, I always love that we can do

1049
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 5: this without you. You're like, Okay, have.

1050
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 4: Fun, have fun.

1051
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 2: Colin Bluff's but b J Britt gets my honorable mention

1052
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 2: or the comment I love seeing the comic get worked

1053
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 2: on too. That's another honorable mention.

1054
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 4: We got a wheel today.

1055
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 5: We have now, Oh who is most likely to laugh

1056
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 5: in a serious moment? Hillary?

1057
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 4: Not It is me.

1058
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 3: It is me.

1059
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 4: I have no defense against that. It's me. I'll yeah.

1060
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,439
Speaker 3: I like feelings.

1061
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 4: Oh god, they're so hard feelings.

1062
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 3: It's really hard parenting very emotional children because I want

1063
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 3: to crack a joke when George is feeling big feelings.

1064
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 4: And I can't.

1065
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 3: I can't, and I have to like get down on

1066
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 3: my knees and be like, tell me everything about your feelings,

1067
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 3: not crack. That's that's all the acting I do now,

1068
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 3: and it is all my energy. But who on our

1069
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 3: show is like the crack up? It's Haley on the show.

1070
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 3: Hailey's always like didn't you have a nervous laughter thing?

1071
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 4: In an episode?

1072
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,479
Speaker 2: Hailey is always kind of like trying to make things

1073
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 2: better by making them worse.

1074
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 4: Yes, it's like we got married.

1075
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 3: It's a Haley trick.

1076
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 2: I see that.

1077
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 5: I think so, yeah, I would say Haley or like

1078
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 5: Antoine likes to make a joke in an inappropriate moment,

1079
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 5: it does? You know? Skills is always in with a

1080
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 5: one liner.

1081
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 3: How about the teacher in this episode like I need

1082
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 3: some breakup sex or.

1083
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 4: Something like that. When I was like, girl, well, I

1084
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 4: was like what the hell?

1085
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 5: And then she was like kidding kidding.

1086
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 6: I was like.

1087
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 4: Okay, but she was putting out a vine ye not kidding.

1088
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I loved it, all right, what do we have

1089
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 3: next episode?

1090
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 5: We got a season six episode twenty two, show me

1091
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 5: How to Live. That sounds like it's going to be dramatic.

1092
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 4: Sure, well, can't wait.

1093
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 5: Well done, everybody, Thanks for joining Hillary, you get my

1094
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 5: honorable mention for literally running out of Fox. It's my

1095
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 5: favorite version of you.

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Speaker 4: Let's see what happens. I don't know that I ever

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Speaker 4: got them back. Did I ever regain the I.

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Speaker 5: Sure hope not.

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Speaker 4: I don't think so. Guys, they broke me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, have a great week.

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Speaker 5: See you next week.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for listening.

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Speaker 5: Don't forget to leave us a review. You can also

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Speaker 3: Or email us at Drama Queens at iHeartRadio dot com.

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