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Speaker 1: Ron An aian when a hurricane hits Florida, and how

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Speaker 1: many evs get wiped out as they did in the

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Speaker 1: losses multiply at such a rate that insurance company can't

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Speaker 1: make a rate of return on their investments. The Car Doctor,

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Speaker 1: I think you're gonna find you're gonna loosen the rail

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Speaker 1: Do you have a heated garage so it's warm? I do, okay,

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Speaker 1: So you know I would park it in there overnight,

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Speaker 1: get it good and warm, and just take your time.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the radio home of ron Anian the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 2: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the

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Speaker 2: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 2: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 2: the phone and call in.

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Speaker 1: The garage doors are open, but I am here to

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Speaker 1: take your call at eight five five five six ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: Hundred and now pee running.

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Speaker 1: So we were we took a road trip last week,

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Speaker 1: and you know, we hope you enjoyed last week's show,

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Speaker 1: Mark Mills, and we had fresh calls and we hope

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Speaker 1: you guys enjoyed that. And uh, you know, it's just

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Speaker 1: And you know, we see that in each and every

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Speaker 1: time to time. I was out in Pittsburgh last weekend,

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Speaker 1: Fan Club, President, Rodney Westfall. He's out there and I

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Speaker 1: and you know, his wife, Anita said, Ron, you got

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Speaker 1: So for you, Rodney, my buddy, Hey buddy, this is

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Speaker 1: We'll have to get together again real soon and do

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Speaker 1: it again. But President Rodney of the Car Doctor Fan

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Speaker 1: folks over at Altuna too. They're keeping they're keeping the

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Speaker 1: Car Doctor legend growing as we are trying to get

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Speaker 1: to everybody's broken cars here in America and beyond. We

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Speaker 1: had a sixty six Cadillac in the shop recently, and

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Speaker 1: just don't think it's going to happen like this. Sixty

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Speaker 1: and sixty six Cadillac El Dorado right the last of

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Speaker 1: The only thing I could be, the only thing I

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Speaker 1: One thought Gary, we didn't have time to address it

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Speaker 5: Well, I it does it either like you know, like

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Speaker 1: I guess what, Well agreed, what I'm going what's going

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like cruising along, you know, at around sixty sixty

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00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 5: five an hour on a road trip. You know, it

432
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 5: only does that like on broad on broad driving.

433
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 1: Right, What I want to know is, I'm just trying

434
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 1: to eliminate. Instead of focusing on just what's bad, I

435
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 1: want to eliminate the other things that it possibly could be.

436
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure I don't have a

437
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: bad wheel bearing issue here, all right. I want to

438
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 1: make sure that it's trans related. If you're telling me,

439
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: you take it and put it in neutral and cruise

440
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: along and the noise goes away. That eliminates about eighty

441
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: percent of everything else I was thinking about. You know,

442
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: if you're telling me, you push in the clutch and

443
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 1: it goes away. With the clutch in, I've now taken

444
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: the load off the input shaft of the trans and

445
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: the main shaft of the trans, so I'm changing the

446
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 1: amount of load being exerted on the main shaft bearings.

447
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, you've got a bad bearing in the trans

448
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 1: that's getting hot.

449
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 5: I see, all right, yeah, Because I was thinking that

450
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 5: perhaps even though the gutters in place, maybe it doesn't

451
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 5: anod like the right angle to where the dear oil

452
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 5: doesn't necessarily slow in the right direction onder a certain surtacumstances. Right,

453
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 5: maybe it has to be like like pushed down in

454
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 5: order to for you know, for it to have like

455
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 5: a different angle. Could it be that?

456
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: Is it?

457
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 5: Is it ability?

458
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: Is it modified from what it originally?

459
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 4: Was?

460
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: This?

461
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 5: This not that I can think of. I mean I

462
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 5: bought the car like that about a year ago, about

463
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 5: a year and a half ago, and I noticed that

464
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 5: like the first time I took it out on a

465
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 5: road trip. And other than that, like if the car,

466
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 5: you know, if I go out on an on an

467
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 5: urban freeway and just put it on fourth and fifty

468
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 5: years and you know, bill like fifty fifty five miles

469
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 5: from now, it never does to know it it's only

470
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 5: after driving for about like an hour and a half

471
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 5: feverould take right.

472
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: Something's getting something's getting hot. And obviously obviously there's enough

473
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: gear oil. Obviously there's enough gear oil in it, because

474
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 1: that was probably the first thing the mechanic checked, right.

475
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I've actually changed it out myself to a

476
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 5: couple of times, you know, trying with different viscosities and

477
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 5: all I played eighty W ninety and I'm on the

478
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:00,160
Speaker 5: eighty five.

479
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: Right now, I think if you, I think what you

480
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: have to do is, I think you have to separate

481
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: this too. You know that it's that it's definitely trans related.

482
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: Sounds trans related to me. And then the next step

483
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: is going to be you know, granted it's an eighty four, right,

484
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 1: so it's forty years old, you know, and you you, yeah,

485
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: you've you've only owned it for a year and a half,

486
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 1: two years. What could somebody have done prior to you

487
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: owning the car? Could they have taken something apart and

488
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: lift something out. Once you determine that all the pieces

489
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: are there and that it's in the trends, then it's

490
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: going to be teared down to inspect and you're looking

491
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,479
Speaker 1: for something there's you're going to find a bad bearing

492
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: or a shaft worn or something that's obviously taken abuse

493
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: and it's being reflected by the noise. But I want

494
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: to eliminate everything else. That's why I'm saying, you know,

495
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 1: shut it off at sixty miles an hour and just

496
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 1: coast and neutral. Is the noise definitely gone? If the

497
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: noise is gone at that point, it's not it's not

498
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: a wheel bearing attire. It's not suspension related. It's got

499
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 1: to be in the drive line. So you know, there's

500
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: only there's only and it's not the engine. The engine

501
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: is off at that point, right, and obviously you're gonna

502
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: have to You're gonna have to prove neutral and shut

503
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: it off the coast, right. Uh, you know at that

504
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: point it's not suspension, drive line, road noise related anything

505
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: like that. It's in the trans at that stage. What

506
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: else is there?

507
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, like you pointed out, definitely must be a

508
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 5: bearing about burning or something, right, Could it also be that?

509
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 5: I mean, can there be a bearing that goes back

510
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 5: on a certain conditions, like you know, I want it

511
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 5: reaches a certain temperature and.

512
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: You're gonna make like you're gonna make You're gonna make

513
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: me tell you that. You're gonna make me tell you

514
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: my sixty nine Plymouth Duster story, aren't you? So I'll

515
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: tell you, I like, let me, let me, let me

516
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: pull over, take the pause. When I come back, we'll

517
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: we'll pick this up on the other side, and I'll

518
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 1: tell you exactly what made me think of that that

519
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: it's in the trends I'm running any in the car doctor.

520
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: We'll be back right after this every hard way that

521
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: means slip away home, every hardway you see that it

522
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: is a welcome back run Na the car, doctor Danny,

523
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: Mexico City.

524
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 5: You're still there, sir, Yeah, I'm still here.

525
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,959
Speaker 1: So when I was a college kid, the only thing

526
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: I could afford at the time was a sixty nine

527
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 1: Plymouth Duster which had a was It was an old

528
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: Bell Telephone Company car with over one hundred thousand miles

529
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: on it at the time. This land six with a

530
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 1: three speed stick and I noticed, yeah, you know, ran

531
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 1: forever right, and it sort of had this built in

532
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: speed limitter because if I took it anywhere over sixty five,

533
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: maybe sixty eight miles an hour, it had this groaning

534
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: built into it, this rumble that occurred. And after several

535
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: hours of diagnosis and attempts to repair and everything else,

536
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: I came to the conclusion and realization it was in

537
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: the trans took the trans apart and found that the

538
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 1: main shaft rear main shaft support bearing had had failed

539
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: and it was starting to brindle was the word I

540
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: was always associated with, where the ball bearings were starting

541
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: to get pock marketed and it would just under the

542
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: right under the pock marked. Under the right distortion, it

543
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: would just let out this ferocious rumble and hol and

544
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 1: I rebuilt the trans and the car was fine. So

545
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,239
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's but but it was a process of,

546
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: you know, don't look for what's bad, tell me what's good,

547
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: Tell me what's good, to eliminate the obvious, and we'll

548
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: work our way inward, you know, because there's nothing else

549
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: on that right, This is a renal alliance front wheel drive, right.

550
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, from wheel drive, carbureted you know, Mexican version with

551
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 5: no fuel injection.

552
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, there's not there's not There's not much else there.

553
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: The problem you're gonna have, although maybe it's different in

554
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: Mexico if the cars are still popular, is finding parts.

555
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 5: You know, Yeah, yeah, I believe it or not, there's

556
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 5: a strong renow collectors me. It's here in Mexico itself

557
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 5: is actually in pretty decent shape.

558
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: I believe it. So why aren't you guys getting ready

559
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: for electric vehicles?

560
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 5: Danny, Uh, not so much here in our neck of

561
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 5: the woods. I mean, the combustion the internal combustion car

562
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 5: is steel king around here, which makes me glad I'm here.

563
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 5: By the way, speaking of playmo its uh. Regarding my

564
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 5: six and seven Playmouth Valiant, I finally ended up putting

565
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 5: the Ballad's resister back in place because I felt the

566
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 5: ignition coil was getting too hot to the touch. I'm

567
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 5: hoping I do the right train.

568
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: Is it is?

569
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 4: It?

570
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: Is it working?

571
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, it's still cranking to life every time I

572
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 5: turn on the ignition.

573
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: Then you did the right Then you did the right thing,

574
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: my friend. You know, sometimes with an older car, their

575
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: personalities changes the age, and then sometimes we're forced because

576
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: of either lack of parts or the quality of parts,

577
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: we have to modify the way we repair them. So

578
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: as long as what you're doing keeps it tap out your.

579
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 5: Fun, Yeah, yeah, I think it's fine. It but I

580
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 5: think that uh, that hyped up technician Coil may not

581
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 5: have had the the bailty and resist. After all, you

582
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 5: don't come to think of it, right.

583
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: It may not have, you know. And that's and that's

584
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: and that's very possible. Listen. It's it's as I was

585
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: talking about at the top of the hour, the sixty

586
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: six Cadillac Starter. Sometimes the older cars are harder to fix,

587
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: either because of lack of parts, lack of information, or

588
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: something that's changed along the way, and you know, our

589
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,479
Speaker 1: mind doesn't realize, you know, Danny, you're working on a

590
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: forty year old Renault. Think of all the possibilities of

591
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: somebody else's attempted repair attempts that you know, it makes

592
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: the diagnosis that much harder, right that you have to

593
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: look at everything now.

594
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, yeah, I got only knows you know

595
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 5: how many hands have actually handled the cars componentry.

596
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, break it down into steps, you know, I always say,

597
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: break it down into steps and smaller pieces, and then

598
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: how would you take it apart, and how would you

599
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: put it together, and how would you diagnose it from

600
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: that point? So, but do it that way, do it

601
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: the way I described, and I think you'll be fine

602
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: and you'll get to the root cause and I think

603
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: you're going to find it's in the trans all right, yeah.

604
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks, So, so I'll keep that in mind and

605
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 5: just go on with the process of elimination. And I

606
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 5: think I will have to end up, you know, taking

607
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 5: the transmission apart to check it out totally. And I'll

608
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 5: keep you.

609
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: Posted, all right, let me know, Danny, you be well,

610
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: stay safe, Thank you, You're very welcome. I'm running any

611
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: in the Car Doctor. We are back right after this

612
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: Running in the Car Doctor. Let's get another one in

613
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: before the end of the hour. Micah from Main and Michael,

614
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: Welcome back, sir. How are you today?

615
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 6: Hey, I'm doing great. Good to talk to you, Ron,

616
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 6: and I got a question for you. I hope we're

617
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 6: gonna have enough time to cover it. But I got

618
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 6: a twenty fifteen Subaru Legacy and there's been an issue

619
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 6: with the heat shield rattling. I've got a great dealership

620
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 6: that I take it to with good people. I know

621
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 6: the service writers, and I know the text and looked

622
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 6: at it the last time. And I'm bringing it in

623
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 6: to get the heat shield rattle fixed more than I

624
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 6: am getting the oil change, because the heat shield rattle

625
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 6: comes back every two to three months. The oil change

626
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 6: I do every six months. And I brought it in

627
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 6: last week and I asked them to take me under

628
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 6: it so I could see exactly what we were talking about.

629
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 6: And it's a front heat shield just on the pipe,

630
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 6: just behind the wheels. And what happened is the tabs

631
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 6: on the exhaust pipe have rusted out. Exhaust pipe is fine,

632
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 6: but the tabs with a heat shield attaches rusted out.

633
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 6: They've clamped it, and they reclamp it, and you know,

634
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 6: it's just different places here and there. And I could

635
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 6: replace the exhaust pipe for seventeen hundred dollars. It's not

636
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 6: covered by the extended warranty because of the rust. If

637
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 6: the catalytic converter goes bad, that's covered. I was told

638
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 6: you can take the heat shield off, but that doesn't

639
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 6: sound right to me, and I wondered what your opinion

640
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 6: was on it, because it's a known issue for SUPERUS.

641
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: What we've done is we will put a slit in

642
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: that shield. So imagine you've got the pipe, You've got

643
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: that shield. As it goes around the pipe. We will

644
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: cut a small notch real close to where the circumference

645
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: of the shield touches the pipe, and then slide a

646
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: hose clamp through the slots and then tighten that up.

647
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: Because if you do it their way, if you if

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Speaker 1: you do it without cutting a slot, you're now bending

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00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: the tab of the heat shield and crushing it. You

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Speaker 1: don't really hold the shield to the pipe. Makes sense,

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00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: you understand what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: Trying to picture it in my head. I'm not particularly

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Speaker 6: great with this stuff.

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Speaker 1: All right, So you've got a shot. So you've got it.

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00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: You've got an exhaust pipe, and then you've got you've

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00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: got a heat shield top and bottom that is secured

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Speaker 1: to the pipe by a just it's just it's just

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00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: a strap that rotted away. It's just you know, and

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Speaker 1: you can actually weld the strap if you really wanted

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Speaker 1: to get creative back to the pipe, but you know,

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Speaker 1: you'd have to make it by hand, et cetera. So

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00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: what we've done is we've actually so if that if

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Speaker 1: that flange that bolts to the strap that rusted away,

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Speaker 1: if that flange is a quarter of an inch on

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00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: each side where the where the heat shield makes the

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00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: right angle bend to make it a flat portion to

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00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: go to that strap, we'll cut a slot right there.

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00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 1: We'll just we'll just hack saw it out or dremble

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00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: it out, drill it out, and then we will just

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00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: clamp both sides using a hose clamp. That hose clamp

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00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: allows us to keep the heat shield very close to

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Speaker 1: the pipe, so we're not bending the ears when we

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00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 1: get good grip to hold the shield to the pipe.

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Speaker 1: All right, go back and look at that. If you

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Speaker 1: have any other questions, you know where to find me.

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Speaker 1: In my I can always get to hear from you.

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Speaker 1: I'm Ronning Aye in the card Actor, reminding you till

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Speaker 1: the next time. As always, good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.

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Speaker 1: See you