1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: with her radio. Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: It's Ashley and I'm Ben. Yeah, and um, Ben and 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: I we like to start this podcast out by just 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: kind of telling you the memorable parts of our week. 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: You want to know what I just came back from. 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: Came back from a three D. I didn't even I 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: just went right into it. I didn't. I was like, 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: I'm not even waiting for Ben. I was going to respond, 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: but I caught on quick that you're just so excited 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: to share whatever you're about to share, that didn't really 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: matter what my answer was. No, it was really cool. 13 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: It was a three D ultrasound at this place in Frederick, 14 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: Maryland called First Site Ultrasound. So like you know, you 15 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: go to your doctor, you get like the little you know, 16 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: it looks like a skeleton type of ultrasound. But we 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: went to this place because I'm here for a doctor's appointment, 18 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: like here in Virginia. So I took a little like 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: our ride out to Frederick, Maryland, and I got to 20 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: see the baby's face and like all the three D 21 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 1: movement and it's really cool. And of course I'm over 22 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: analyzing all of his features. I'm like, is that that's 23 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: Jared's shin? I was like, and why is his nose 24 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: like so not? Like it's a squishy nose. So does 25 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: it have the jawline that we all expected? It has 26 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: the chin of Jared, so I'm thinking that the jawline 27 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: will probably come with it. But he's kind of roly 28 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: POLYI right now, like they say that he's dumb. Okay, 29 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: So when I first got an ultrasound, the twenty week 30 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: ultrasound back in September, they said that he was in 31 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: the nineties percent tile for size. He has gone down. However, 32 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: his toungey is still in the eighties eighty seven percent tile. 33 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: So he's got a big chubby belly. But everything else 34 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: seems to be kind of normal. Wow, that is crazy. 35 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: Isn't technology wild? And now you can really get a 36 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: picture of what you're how to look like? Are you 37 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: happy about that? Or would you do? You? Do you 38 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: miss that the option is not just at being a surprise. 39 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: I am not like down. Surprises are fine if they 40 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: have to be surprises, but if you can see it early, 41 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: it's kind of cool. I think technology is awesome. What 42 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: what would you do. What would you would you want 43 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: to see the baby before a couple of stuff? I 44 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: think just because it's an option, yes, like you know, 45 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: like I think it. I hate surprises. And in fact, 46 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: right now I'm sitting through a three day intensive leadership seminar, 47 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: and the whole purpose is to understand your internal self better. 48 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: What like what makes you angry, what you don't like, 49 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: how you work with your coworkers better, all those things 50 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: and um, and one of the things that came up 51 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: yesterday in conversation was, UM, there's a certain personality type 52 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: that just really dislikes surprises. And I really do dislike surprises. 53 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: I don't enjoy him. Hm, do you remember the last 54 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: time you are truly truly surprised? Because I don't know that. 55 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't, um, mostly because you know, Jessica 56 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: has been in my life the last three years and 57 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: like either her parents or her would be the one 58 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: either planning surprises or being around when surprises happened, and 59 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: so they know, I just really don't enjoy them, like 60 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: they don't make me feel celebrated. Now for talking like 61 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: big life experiences, I mean the last time I was surprised? No, 62 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: really I really, I really, it's been years. I mean 63 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: I think the thing that would stand out would be 64 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: the time that I got the phone call from the 65 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: show saying, hey, you're coming. I think that was probably 66 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: the last time I was like shockingly surprised or oh 67 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: this week, though, I was surprised. Oh okay. I woke 68 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: up in the morning and uh my, my wife was gone, No, no, 69 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: she's she's she's here. I know, I know she except 70 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, she wakes up this morning ready to 71 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: work out. Um, not kidding wild but no. I woke 72 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: up and my buddy texted me. I had of my 73 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: phone blew up and he's like, hey, Bloomberg just did 74 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: a feature on you, like Bloomberg And I was like 75 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: what for what? And I had no clue, no idea, 76 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: what's happening. No for my apparel company, my fan Threads. Yeah, so, 77 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: like you know, Generous is my main focus. My fan 78 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: Threads is a great side project that like I work 79 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: on a few hours a week. You know, we we 80 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: we make sure that everything's going well, but it's not 81 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: like a focus of mine. And Bloomberg goes out there 82 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: and does a highlight of it. Too cool. Congratulations on that. 83 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: I thank you. I was pumped. I was pumped. That 84 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: was a big surprise. I mean, that's a good surprise. 85 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: But Ashley, we didn't even tell people what we're doing today. 86 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: We haven't yet. Oh well, I guess we're just recapping 87 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: the episode. But do you know what that this episode? 88 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: Here's a surprise. I actually had like feelings and thought 89 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: about this episode. Yeah, I did too, And we're gonna 90 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: get into it. We're gonna share all about it. One 91 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: of the most shocking exits I have seen in a while. 92 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: Um came out of note and uh in conversation and 93 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: relationships deepened. And so we're gonna take a break here. Actually, 94 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: when we come back, we're gonna break down this week's 95 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: episode of Michelle's season of The Bachelor, get into hot topics, 96 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 1: and then get out of here before we take a 97 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: break and get into that recap batch Rocket Rule of 98 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: the week for the finale week. It's December one, and 99 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: this is minus ten if a contestant doesn't get down 100 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: on one knee slash does not propose to Michelle. On 101 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,799 Speaker 1: top of the current point penalties for saying quote I'm 102 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: not ready for marriage slash engagement slash this, so be 103 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: aware of anybody saying I'm not ready for Hey, we'll 104 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: be back. All right, everybody, We're back And it's this 105 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: week's episode of The Bachelor AP We're down to the 106 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: final three contestants on Michelle's season. We've got Nate, Brandon, 107 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 1: and Joe left. So obviously this week is a week 108 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: for these guys to get to spend more time with Michelle. 109 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: They are in Mexico, a place very familiar with the 110 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: brand with the Bachelor franchise. It's overnight week. Things get 111 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: really wild in Port of Iarta, very very wild. Uh 112 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: typically if if you've been there, so Ashley, you said 113 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: at the beginning, you have very strong feelings for this 114 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: week's episode. How about so that I don't step on 115 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: top of those feelings, you take us through it. Okay, Well, 116 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: I mean my biggest feeling was that I was convinced 117 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: that Brendan was leaving, like convinced, I mean Brandon. I 118 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: thought he yes, I was okay, So I was not 119 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: at the top of the episode, not convinced that at all. 120 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: I thought he was a shoe in at first, but 121 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: then after watching the connections, I mean, so that's where 122 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: the filter that we're gonna funnel this whole conversation through. Okay, 123 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: we have three dates that we need to talk about, 124 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: and the first one is Brandon's. Brandon goes in the 125 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: first overnight date. I would I always think that the 126 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: first overnight date is thet it's very forgettable, but this 127 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: wasn't forgettable to me because it did feel like they 128 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: had a lot of words of affirmation. I do get 129 00:07:55,080 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: the sense though from Brandon that he he's trying really 130 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: hard for Michelle to like him. Does that make sense? 131 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: And I think at the end, I just got the 132 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: sense that, like these other guys kind of pushed back 133 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: at her a little bit. They're pretty comfortable around her. 134 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: It feels like there's like a mutual like, Hey, I 135 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: like you, you like me. But Brandon like like in 136 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: this relationship we will maybe challenge each other. In the 137 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: relationship with Brandon, it's kind of like I will worship 138 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: you and be obsessed with you, and you will always 139 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: be my queen. And I don't think he's lying. I 140 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: think he really, really, really really likes her, and I 141 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: think he really cares about her. I think she he 142 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: sees her as his dream girl. But it does watching it, 143 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: and that's my my critique. I've always liked Brandon. He 144 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: was in my top three at the very beginning. I 145 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: like him. He's a he's a good dude, he's good looking. 146 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: He's been very respectful and very like easy to watch 147 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: on television. He listens to Michelle, but I do. The 148 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: last two weeks, I've gotten the sense that he's been 149 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: trying really hard to throw almost like that Mary saying, 150 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: I feel like I have some catching up to do 151 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: and I really need to let her know that I 152 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: like her and like really like dive in mm hmm. 153 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: He was so obsessed with the fact that he was 154 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: getting the first date. He thought that that meant so much, 155 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: and I was like, this means nothing. You can keep 156 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: over analyzing. But if anything, I would want to have 157 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: that third date of the week because I would just 158 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: say that you're most fresh in um the person's mind. Yeah, 159 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: I would agree. But the Bachelor did it again. The 160 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: men are sitting in the same room altogether as people 161 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: go on their dates. Ashley, when it first happened, we 162 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: didn't like it. Then it happened again, and we're like, 163 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: brings up some funny drama and it kind of like 164 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: spices things up. Uh. Did you like now this season 165 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: them doing that once again? I like it. It's uncomfortable 166 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: for them, but it's good TV for us. Yeah, because 167 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: I mean even the scene where Nate and Joe, uh 168 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: you know kind of have to watch, isn't it's the 169 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: fireworks right with Brandon that go off. Oh yeah, you know, 170 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: so they have to see that, they have to feel that. 171 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: There's like they show that scene and Nate doesn't even 172 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: walk out to watch him. He just sits down in 173 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: the back, and it's like, this sucks, Like I know 174 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: exactly what they're doing. I know exactly what this is. 175 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: This is pointing towards and it is the week where 176 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: you see these guys I would say, and not to 177 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: but like other than Joe, like really start to communicate 178 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: their feelings in a strong way towards Michelle and uh, 179 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: and Joe still felt a little reserved to me, it 180 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: just might be his personality type. Um, but they already 181 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: gether in the same room. So Brandon comes back from 182 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: his date obviously. Uh. The big pictures of that date 183 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: are Hey, he communicated how much he cares about her. Uh, 184 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: he said that he would do anything for she felt 185 00:10:55,800 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: like she accepted it and appreciated it. He comes back 186 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: and feeling very confident in his date, and then obviously 187 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: we move on to the next MHM. So the next 188 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: is Joe's And at first I was like, oh, yeah, 189 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: maybe maybe this is the time it ends with Joe. 190 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: But as the date went on, I felt like them 191 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: connecting more and more. And she said that she is 192 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: falling in love with him, so because she didn't say 193 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: that with Brendan and he was, you know, Brendan was 194 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: so like gunhole, like I'm so so in love with you, 195 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: and she didn't say it back. I was like, okay, 196 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: so Joe is in so yeah, the beginning of the 197 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: date not really not really one sure, but as we 198 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: go into the nighttime portion, she's saying things like maybe 199 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: her soulmate. He says that he's trolling in love with 200 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: her um and she says that she just like get loved, 201 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: has been loving getting to know him more and more. 202 00:11:54,920 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: As time goes on, I just felt I just especially yeah, 203 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: especially that next morning when I wake up, Like I 204 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: just felt like she was more into Joe that morning 205 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: than she was into Brendon the morning. Grievous well, I mean, 206 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: so I think you're I agree with you. It's a 207 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: comparison here, right, Brandon is very very vocal about his 208 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: feelings towards Michelle. In fact, we watch it and like 209 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 1: we said, she accepts these feelings. She tells him, hey, uh, 210 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: you make me feel safe. So Brandon is very like 211 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: romantic with his words. Now Joe, on the other hand, 212 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: almost it feels like to me watching this, like I 213 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 1: don't know what reassurance she's getting from Joe. I think 214 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: they have something. I think she's into him. I think 215 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: they have a good connection. But he's not giving her 216 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: a lot back. I mean, he says, hey, he says 217 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: he's falling in love with her every moment, But like, 218 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: there just isn't this Wait, Am I a typical girl? 219 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: What's up? You're saying this? And I'm like, maybe I'm 220 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: just a typical girl. I like the mystery, maybe, like 221 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: I think maybe I'm feeling like she's more drawn to 222 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: Joe just because she's trying to get more out of him. 223 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: But the mystery. But that's fun. I mean, we're going 224 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: to talk Bachelor World here, that's what fun. Like week 225 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: one through six, But then at this point, you're considering 226 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: a life with somebody, you are investing your your heart 227 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: into somebody. The mystery of it all doesn't really work anymore. 228 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: Like you don't marry somebody based on mystery and potential, right, 229 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: I mean maybe you might believe in what they can 230 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: do in the future, but you're not marrying and going, oh, yeah, 231 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: you'll be better one day, or you'll tell me you'll 232 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: love me one day, you'll show me love me one day. 233 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: Like that's not how it works. And so at this 234 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: thinking about like crushed done. Sure, I think she's had 235 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: a crush on Josep as the very beginning. Yeah, I mean, 236 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: what don't you agree? And then you have Brandon who's 237 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: communicating all this stuff and making her feel safe and 238 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: making her feel wanted, and she's obviously in a Brandon also, 239 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: And so at this point, and I just still don't 240 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: think Joe is gonna be going home, going to go home. 241 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 1: I thought Nate had the best shot at going home. 242 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: I thought Brandon would be there until and we'll get 243 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: into until the final scene. I just thought that Joe 244 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: would be there because there was that crush, because there's 245 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: that intrigue, because there's that curiosity, I was waiting for 246 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: him this whole day at Ashley to blossom and just 247 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: be like Michelle, like I can't picture my life without you, 248 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: like I love you, and it just never happened. Well, 249 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: he's said, I love you basically, I'm not looking basically, 250 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: Basically I'm not looking for basically right now, Ashley, We're 251 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: we're talking about like three incredible dudes who are who 252 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: Michelle is all interested in, like, and you're looking. I mean, 253 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: maybe they just aren't meant to get engaged. And like 254 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: I've always said, I'm okay with that. If her and 255 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: Joe ended up at the end and they say, hey, 256 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: we're not ready yet, but we're super curious about where 257 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: this can go, we're gonna walk out of this thing 258 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: and keep dating. I've always been a fan of that. 259 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: I think it's a fine thing. I don't think you 260 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: should happen every season, but it's gonna happen. Um, but 261 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: you you don't get engaged based on basically you're basically 262 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: tell me you like me? Right, You're so right? He did. 263 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: He is the guy who only said falling in love 264 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: because the other two actually said in love. Now, I 265 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: walking into this Nate date also think Nate's the one 266 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: that's going to be on the chopping block. I think 267 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: that she's going to have these like logical feelings of um, 268 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: you know, his dad obviously made it seem like he 269 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: wasn't ready for an engagement. This guy doesn't seem as 270 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to say, he doesn't seem as invested 271 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: in her, but like he does give off a little 272 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: bit more of a player vibe. And maybe I'm totally 273 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: wrong there, but like he is super smooth. I watching, like, 274 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: I think he's the most attractive of them. Like I 275 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: see the physical that physical chemistry, you know, Like I 276 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: think that's what she's really into with Nate. But she 277 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: dropped so many lines that say it's way more than 278 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: that during the state, including like this is soulmates stuff. Right. 279 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: She says that kissing him is like kissing like nobody 280 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: else she's ever experienced in her life. Um, she says, 281 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: I'm in love with you two with him? Uh right, 282 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: I don't think I was, like, I mean that's the 283 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: big one right there. Actually yeah, she said that back, 284 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: said it back. Well, you know, if if we're going 285 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: through this and I'm analyzing who's going home, who's going 286 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: not who's not going home. For her to send him 287 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: home in the top three after saying that to him 288 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: would have been a little bit of a surprise, right 289 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: if I was down the final two and she was 290 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: saying that, uh, makes a little more sense. But the 291 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: final three and she's she says that to him, and 292 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 1: he's the only one she says that back to, and 293 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: then to send him home just would have been a 294 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: little bit different, like a little bit shocking. But Nate 295 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: still to me, you know, she asks him some pretty 296 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: poignant questions about where he's at and if he's ready 297 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: and he or Hey, is there anything on your mind 298 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: that you want to talk about? And he just doesn't 299 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:33,479 Speaker 1: really respond, still like he's still not quite communicating with 300 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: her in a way that like the back and forth 301 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: that I think she's desires. Now Again, it could be 302 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: the intrigue of it all. And I do think he 303 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: cares about her. I have no doubt that his feelings 304 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: for him for her are very real, That's what I mean. Yeah, 305 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: But he's just he's he's distant in his communication. He's 306 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: there's a something there and a little bit of a wall, 307 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: a little bit of a wall that throws up a 308 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: red flag I think for for me, and so it 309 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: puts us in this if a reverse and track when 310 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: we're watching this live. At this point, we're going, in 311 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: my mind, um, I'm saying it's Brandon or Joe because 312 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: with her saying that back to Nate, I would I 313 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: said it a little bit. I thought Nate was gonna 314 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: be going home this week, probably before the episode started, 315 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: just because of where he was at and his and 316 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: kind of how his family had told her like, hey, 317 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: he's probably not ready. Um, but at this point, like 318 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: I still think Joe is gonna be there. I thought 319 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: Brandon would be going home, which brings us to the 320 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: Rose ceremony. I knew date it was gonna get the 321 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: first roast, so we're just like that, go for that, 322 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 1: and then Brandon uh pulls her aside, walks her out. 323 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: Do you think he was going to say? Um? I 324 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: really didn't know. I was trying. I was sitting there going, Okay, 325 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: what is going to happen here? He's either gonna send 326 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: himself home because he because he felt like he wasn't 327 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: where everybody else was at um, or he was going 328 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,479 Speaker 1: to do like a very awkward He'll Mary, Like I 329 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: just want to let you know how much I care 330 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: about you and if you know, And he kind of 331 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: did that, but it came off a lot better like 332 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: it was. Just it wasn't like this like begging her 333 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: to keep him kind of thing. And I don't think 334 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: she's the type of person that would have been down 335 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: for that anyways. But as he's talking to her, she's crying, 336 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: and I'm like, he's a going home one thousand percents 337 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: going home. There's many ways to interpret this. First off, 338 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: I my initial reaction when he pulled her aside was 339 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: that he was gonna say something bad about Nate and 340 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: try to take her, um, just try to do what 341 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: he could to get her feelings about Nate to be skeptical. 342 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: That would have been I have been said, I wouldn't 343 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, I wouldn't have either. Um, but I 344 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: saw it coming, just because they kind of showed some 345 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: tension between the two of them throughout the episode. But 346 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: that's not where it went, which was good. But then 347 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: when she cried. When she was crying, I was like, Okay, 348 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: so this is so obvious he is the one going home. Now. 349 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: My question for you is do you think that she 350 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: planned on sending him home, and that conversation actually did 351 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: flip her mind. I just I mean, you know, I 352 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: just don't see Michelle flipping her I think she walks 353 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: into those she was at the poet like the podium already. 354 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: I would said this would have happened a couple of hours, 355 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: maybe before the day before. You know, yeah, I could 356 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: have seen it flip. But like I feel like Michelle's 357 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: type of person. Once she makes a decision, she's very 358 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: confident in that decision. She it's it's gonna be almost 359 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: impossible to convince her otherwise, especially in the moments of 360 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: moments like this, and I think she's taking it very serious. 361 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: And so no, I don't I don't know what her 362 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: We'll talk to we'll talk to her here in a 363 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and well we can ask. But I 364 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: don't know where her mind was at during that. Maybe 365 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: it was just the gravity of saying goodbye to somebody 366 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: you care about, um, and like him reminding her of 367 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: that maybe broke her down a little bit emotionally. UM. 368 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: But I was shocked. I did not see Joe going home. 369 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: I thought, at this moment, it's Brandon. And then obviously 370 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: we all get shocked. Well, I mean, now there's just 371 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: time for us to kind of break down what we 372 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: see and it changed for the next episode real quick, 373 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: before we do that, what do you think about Joe 374 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: and Michelle's like final moments together. Did you feel like 375 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: maybe he was he was the one that got away. 376 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: Do you feel like there's still something to be had 377 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: there or did you did you did you just think, yeah, 378 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: this was obvious that it did need to happen. I 379 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: think that if it doesn't work out for her with 380 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: one of the other two being that he lives at home, 381 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: that like they can totally rekindle things. And I think 382 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: that they left off in a good spot where they could. 383 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: He doesn't seem to feel like any animosity toward her. No, No, 384 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: that's true. Um, And obviously we've seen it here as 385 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: of recently. This could be a new trend for the 386 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: next few years of The Bachelor. Is you get away, 387 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: you realize what you miss and then you go back. Okay, 388 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: Scenes from the next episode actually break it down. Okay, Um, 389 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: just one little point out. There is a moment in 390 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: this episode where she says that she's worried about Nate's 391 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: reciprocation of the feelings, like she feels like she might 392 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: be ahead of the game and feelings. And I feel 393 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: like that kind of plays out in the scene to 394 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: the next episode, because we do see somebody else. Her 395 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: mom at least says that somebody else, somebody isn't ready 396 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: for marriage. Um, and she's crying at the end, saying 397 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,959 Speaker 1: that she she's never done something so hard, like she 398 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: can't there's a decision. She can't believe she's doing it. 399 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: She can't believe that she's making this decision. So does 400 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: that mean like she's making a decision not to get engaged. Well, 401 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: I mean, we can't read too far into it. You know, 402 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: the previews are always leading us in one direction and 403 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: they feel like they go back to the other. Um, 404 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: I'm I'll be honest, Ash, I'm going to be shocked 405 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: at this ends in an engagement. Yeah, but I don't 406 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: think it's gonna end with them her not being with someone. No, No, 407 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: I don't think that. I think you're gonna say, let's date, 408 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: which is weird because that's not that's not something we 409 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 1: haven't seen before. We totally have, but we've only seen 410 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: that with Bachelor's which would make this one unique the 411 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: Bachelorette saying let's just date. Yeah, but I mean again, 412 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: Michelle has been so confident all season. I mean I 413 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: thought we were progressing that point. I would say this week, 414 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: for as good as the episode was, I didn't feel 415 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: like I'm more confident that these are gonna end in 416 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: like a in an engagement. I think it's it actually 417 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: felt like almost these relationships got slowed up a bit. 418 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe Nates went forward, but again, like I 419 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: thought they were gonna have a lot more conversation about 420 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: why his family said what they said, and I thought 421 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: that they're gonna have a lot more conversation about where 422 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: he's at. And I thought that would make us feel 423 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: a little bit more like in tune with their love story. 424 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: Ben with the good points I'm trying. It is weird 425 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: that that wasn't brought up, and or if it happened, 426 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: that it wasn't air. Yeah, So I thought that was so. 427 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: I had kind of thoughts, preconceived thoughts on each day. 428 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: I thought Brandon, I wanted to see him. I thought 429 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: I was gonna see him get more comfortable, um still 430 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: communicate his feelings. He he didn't. I mean, maybe he 431 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: was comfortable. Maybe it's just who he is, but he 432 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: did communicate his feelings and then Joe I thought we'd 433 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: see him open up. I thought he see him like, um, 434 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: pursue Michelle a little bit, like almost like show hey, 435 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 1: I really want this to happen and I'm into you 436 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: and I want to see this thing to the end. 437 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: And that it did not happen. I will say that 438 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: really ship definitely kind of had a stalled out moment. 439 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: And then Nate. I thought we would have that conversation 440 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,959 Speaker 1: with Nate about where he's at and what he's thinking 441 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: and and how we feels about the things that his 442 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: family said, and he just kind of like pushed aside 443 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: and Michelle kind of dig a little bit and they 444 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: kind of got into it. And so, yeah, I don't 445 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: think she wants to know. I think she's so infatuated 446 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: with him she doesn't even want to hear it, and 447 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: she just wants to pretend like he is ready. Well, 448 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: it will be an interesting final episode of Michelle season 449 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: of The Bachelorette. Um we're excited for it here at 450 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: the Almost Famous Podcast. It's uh, it's gonna be airing 451 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: next week. We'll be here to talk about it, but hey, 452 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. When we come back, we've 453 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: got Bachelor Nation headlines with our resident expert, ashleyken Eddie. 454 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: That would be me alright, everybody, It's Bachelor Nation headlines time. 455 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna start with the first one, this one coming 456 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: from People Magazine. I've seen the interview. I understand where 457 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: he's coming from. Wells Adams was admittedly a little disappointed 458 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: to not land the Bachelor hosting gear. Mm hmm. So 459 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: he says, a little sad not to um land the role, 460 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: but I was never the Bachelor, so I understood the decision. 461 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: I also know Jesse really well. I've worked with him before, 462 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: so I get him being the host. He was the Bachelor, 463 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: so it totally makes sense. You know. I'm happy for him. Uh. 464 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: He says that the change has been hard for the 465 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 1: Bachelor audience, you know, like with new host, but he 466 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: still thinks highly of Jessie despite how weird it may 467 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: be for some people when they initially watched. I think 468 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: that's probably because a lot of the people watching the 469 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: show now may not have watched the show back when 470 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: Jesse was the Bachelor. Um. He says, he's a well 471 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: says he's a wonderful dude and I'm so happy. Um 472 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: there's no host for Bachelor in Paradise yet those he suggested, 473 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: so we'll see well Um moving on here. It's it's 474 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to watch Wells in his progress. If 475 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: obviously announced last week he has a new hosting gig. 476 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: Be interesting to see if he comes back around to 477 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: the Bachelor franchise or if the Bachelor franchise just uses 478 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: Jesse and Wells. Is time on ABC is coming to 479 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: an end, which you know we don't want to see. 480 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: We love Wills, but um, we're not gonna say the 481 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: names of this next headline because that would be a 482 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: spoiler that doesn't seem fair to all of you listeners. 483 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: But the question that Bustle is asking right now is 484 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: did ABC actually reveal Clayton's final three Bachelor contestants? We 485 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: were wondering the same thing on the podcast. They felt 486 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: very clear who they were to us. We won't say 487 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: their names, but Ashley, did they if you want to like, 488 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: do some light research kind of because we see the girls, 489 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: the top three girls kind of in line at a 490 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: roast ceremony or what looks like the top three ROAs 491 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: ceremony right in the teaser. And then all you gotta 492 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: do is when the names and pictures are released, which 493 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: I would say would be soon this week. Yeah, just 494 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: match the match up the faces and the names if 495 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: you want to. But it's interesting that they would do that. Now. Again, 496 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: there's nothing that doesn't go uh noticed or unnoticed in 497 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 1: the editing department, and so I'd be shocked if that's 498 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: what they did. But I don't know. It wasn't a mistake. 499 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it would have been a mistake. 500 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: It must have been. It must be something that they 501 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: think is like juicy enough to keep the audience so 502 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: captive throughout the season that it was just worth it right. Well, Uh, 503 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: next in line is this part deep from this season 504 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: of The Bachelorette, discusses the pressures of being the first 505 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: Indian American to receive a rose on The Bachelorette. This 506 00:28:51,680 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: according to Bachelor Nation, Wow, that's that's crazy. That that's crazy. Okay, 507 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: so he said, Once I realized I was the first 508 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: Indian American to ever get a rose in the show, 509 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: it was something that slowly started to creep up on 510 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: me as days started to go by going in. You 511 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: gotta go in with your best foot forward. And I 512 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: went representing a New Yorker and a scientist. But slowly 513 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: I realized that there was actually a lot more going 514 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: on here, and if I slip up or make a 515 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: bad mistake, it could poorly characterize anyone that looks like me, 516 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: and that could be really bad. So I started to 517 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: get into my own head early on. I wanted to 518 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: be on my best behavior, because if you're the first 519 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: to do something, anything you do is very scrutinized. I 520 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: don't think anyone else cared except for me. I am 521 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: I am um the one with this role I had 522 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: where I felt like I was representing what was datable 523 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: for an Asian American on national TV. I think that 524 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: for a general audience like this one, they have never 525 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: seen someone with my face and my name as a 526 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: viable dating partner. I had to represent that really well, 527 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: even though I didn't make it past week two. Of course, 528 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: this is his own opinion, but um, that is just 529 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: crazy to me that there hasn't been one Indian American 530 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: in these twenty years that has gone past week one. 531 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: Part deep. Yeah, he didn't even make a press week too. 532 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: Part Deep is paving the way Well. Final headline of 533 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: this week is Rodney discusses making history with the Bachelor 534 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: franchise plus his mom's advice for his future partner. This 535 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: also according to Bachelor Nation, making history with the Bachelor franchise. Okay, well, 536 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: that is because he is one of this top four, 537 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: which is historic because all of the men in this 538 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: top four are all people of color. She said, it 539 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: was truly truly amazing. The night of the rose ceremony, 540 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: of course, where she brings it down to four, he said, 541 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: my heart was racing that night, So at the moment, 542 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking of the history too much, but I 543 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: understood the gravity of that situation. It really meant a 544 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: lot to me. Making this kind of history with the 545 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation franchise is really something that is so special 546 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: to me. I hold it near and dear to my heart. 547 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: The caliber of the guys in that room, I was 548 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: just honored and blessed to know them and be in 549 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: the same category as guys like that. We're all happy 550 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: to be there together. And also it just shows how 551 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: amazing Michelle is to have a final four like that. 552 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: He says that they were all grateful for the moment 553 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: and he can't tell us how happy and proud he 554 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: was to be part of it. Well, obviously, Rodney was 555 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: one of our favorites. Celebrate this season of The Bachelorette 556 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: by coming back next week to discuss it once again. 557 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: It's been a great season. We're happy to be here 558 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: with all of you. But that's into this week's episode. Hey, 559 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: we have a special episode, right Ashley this week coming 560 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: out on Thursday. Yeah, we have Caitlin and she's gonna 561 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: come on and talk about one why Clayton is the 562 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: Bachelor to um, we have a fast round of questions 563 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: for her about her wedding. Three, we have all the 564 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: inside scoop on the on the dancing with the star store, 565 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: and all the feelings that she's been having lately. Like 566 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: we we really cover it all. So if you're Caitlin 567 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: Bristow fan and seriously, who embattl nation isn't, make sure 568 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: that you tune into that interview. It's gonna be great. Well, Hey, 569 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: with that, everybody, we'll be back next week. I've been been, 570 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: I've been Ashley. You guys all right, follow the Benn 571 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on I our radio, 572 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.