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<v Speaker 1>Paul from Alan Alan, Alan, Alan, tell me everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Alan.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you know, Alan took a chance.

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<v Speaker 4>Alan told me everything he was comfortable with telling me,

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<v Speaker 4>which is nothing and that's fair.

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<v Speaker 5>Goes on the line, taking your phone calls every night

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<v Speaker 5>every week.

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<v Speaker 6>Goes to side.

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<v Speaker 3>He was teaching.

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<v Speaker 5>You your life.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody's not really an expert.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul from Audrey Audrey.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh my god, Hi, how are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Audrey?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm all right, how are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm cool and I'm I'm over here.

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<v Speaker 7>I can see that you look real chill. I love

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<v Speaker 7>the Christmas tree.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, thank you so much, Ozre.

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<v Speaker 4>This's so nice of you to say I stole it

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<v Speaker 4>off the internet myself.

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<v Speaker 7>That's a great way to go about it.

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<v Speaker 4>What are you up to, dude? You seem like a

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<v Speaker 4>good perse. Have we ever spoken before?

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<v Speaker 7>No, we have not.

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<v Speaker 3>How does how does it feel it?

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<v Speaker 7>My heart is racing. I've been watching your stream for

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<v Speaker 7>a bit now. I'm really excited to be on.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh fuck, I'm glad when people who've watched for a

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<v Speaker 4>long time I haven't gotten on. Finally get on, dude.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 3>Get into the weeds. I have a question for you.

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<v Speaker 3>This evening.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, what's the question?

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<v Speaker 3>Have you know?

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<v Speaker 4>Look, it's Christmas time, right, and that was a good

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<v Speaker 4>time I think for us to you know, sort of

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<v Speaker 4>evaluate the self and you know, determine whether or not

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<v Speaker 4>we have been naughty or nice.

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<v Speaker 3>So I have a question for you, Ausia. Have you

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<v Speaker 3>been naughty and nice this year?

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<v Speaker 7>You know I'm boring. I've been really nice. I've accomplished

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<v Speaker 7>some goals, did some good things. Very happy about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, what have you accomplished?

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<v Speaker 7>Well? I started my first year of college. It's been

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<v Speaker 7>eight years since I've been in school, and I'm really

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<v Speaker 7>happy about that. I was really scared of school for

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<v Speaker 7>a long time, kind of didn't go to school before,

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<v Speaker 7>so this is really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Why were you scared of school?

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<v Speaker 7>Because I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Go to school.

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<v Speaker 7>I was like technically homeschooled, but I basically just taught

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<v Speaker 7>myself everything.

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<v Speaker 2>So are you.

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<v Speaker 3>Eighteen or are you like you just graduated?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm twenty I'm twenty six now. Actually I turned twenty

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<v Speaker 7>six on the twenty six.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm twenty four.

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<v Speaker 3>Why are we Why are you avoiding? Why are you

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<v Speaker 3>avoiding going to college?

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<v Speaker 7>Because I had never been in a classroom before and

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<v Speaker 7>very intimidating, and I just didn't feel smart. But now

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<v Speaker 7>I finally feel smart, So that's really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>So you you you so you were homeschooled your entire life?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Was Is there a particular reason why?

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<v Speaker 7>Because my parents were very religious and they thought public

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<v Speaker 7>school was full of demons, confusing, very complicated, And.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, look, that's that's a legitimate reason, by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>public Look, public school is filled with demons. But dealing

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<v Speaker 4>with those demons is a necessary part of of your growth.

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<v Speaker 4>So just because public schools filled with demons, that's a

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<v Speaker 4>legitimate opinion to have. But not I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 4>a good thing to avoid. I think dealing with those

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<v Speaker 4>demons is part of the self development.

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<v Speaker 7>But well, I wish I had a I wish I

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<v Speaker 7>had a chance. I did not get the chance back.

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<v Speaker 3>Then, Are you are you religious now? No?

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<v Speaker 7>Not not anymore?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that okay?

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<v Speaker 4>So what I mean, what was going on between eight,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, eighteen to twenty six?

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<v Speaker 3>Why what were you doing? You were were you like working?

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<v Speaker 7>I was working. I've been working. I've been working as

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<v Speaker 7>a nanny for eight years. And I just kind of

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<v Speaker 7>had to run away from home for a while and

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<v Speaker 7>figure myself out.

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<v Speaker 4>What was like the spark that got you? You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, after after eight years, you know, what was

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<v Speaker 4>the thing that sort of got you like, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going.

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<v Speaker 3>To go to school.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, it took me a long time to kind of

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<v Speaker 7>build up the confidence.

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<v Speaker 8>To feel like I could be educated.

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<v Speaker 7>I have a lot of confidence that she said, that's

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<v Speaker 7>a took me a long time. And I think the

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<v Speaker 7>thing was that I lost my job due to COVID,

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<v Speaker 7>and I had some money set aside, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 7>you know what, I think it's time to do something new.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>So but okay, and then the COVID was another thing

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<v Speaker 4>I was going to mention because are you are you

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<v Speaker 4>going to in person school?

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<v Speaker 3>I've no idea what's going on with that?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, No, it's all online. I'm really really thankful for that.

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<v Speaker 3>So thankful for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>No, I liked it a lot. I'm scared. I'm a

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<v Speaker 7>little scared of people.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm scared of people to be I thought that was

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<v Speaker 3>the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought the whole thing was this triumphant moment of

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<v Speaker 4>you being like, you know what, I'm going to face

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<v Speaker 4>a few years.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go into the classroom.

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<v Speaker 7>And you know that was the plan. That was the plan.

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<v Speaker 7>I think I was like planning on I was planning

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<v Speaker 7>on taking a couple of cult classes and was like, yes,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm ready to be in a classroom, ready to have

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<v Speaker 7>a teacher. That is going to be a new thing

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<v Speaker 7>for me. Yeah, COVID happened and then everything is online.

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<v Speaker 7>But still the educating thing was a big part of

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<v Speaker 7>it all.

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<v Speaker 3>What are what are the main things that you hope

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<v Speaker 3>to get out of school?

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<v Speaker 7>I know this is kind of weird, but I want

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<v Speaker 7>to learn how to be taught, you know, like I

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<v Speaker 7>want to learn how to I had to learn so

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<v Speaker 7>much for myself, like because I had to teach everything

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<v Speaker 7>to myself growing up, and so it's kind of nice

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<v Speaker 7>to know that there's I don't know, somebody who has

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<v Speaker 7>qualifications to teach me, and I'm just I hope I

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<v Speaker 7>get out of it like a willingness to learn more.

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<v Speaker 7>And yeah, that's I think that's the main thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Who taught Who taught you when you were in homeschool?

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<v Speaker 7>Was it like parent myself? My brother didn't know how

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<v Speaker 7>to read, so they spent a lot of time focusing

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<v Speaker 7>on him. So I basically had.

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<v Speaker 4>Something where like, I have no idea how this works.

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<v Speaker 4>You know how this works, of course, you know how

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<v Speaker 4>that worce more than I do. Isn't there a thing

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<v Speaker 4>where like there's a legal requirement for someone of a

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<v Speaker 4>license someone to teach you something.

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<v Speaker 7>It depends on state to state. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 7>I should disclose right left, but like, my state has

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<v Speaker 7>no regulations when it comes to homeschooling. So basically, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>so some states, right they don't have homeschoolers can gather.

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<v Speaker 7>My state homeschoolers can gather. So there was like connections

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<v Speaker 7>and things for homeschools to tend. But I also didn't

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<v Speaker 7>have to take any state standardized testing, so some states

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<v Speaker 7>do have that.

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<v Speaker 4>How did you get into college if you didn't have

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<v Speaker 4>any what did you apply on the basis.

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<v Speaker 7>Of I guess, well, I'm going to community college. But

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<v Speaker 7>I guess you just need to have some money. I

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<v Speaker 7>actually just found out that my I don't have a diploma.

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<v Speaker 7>I actually just found that out here.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you get into college? Can you get into community college? Diploma?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I I apparently I did so, I guess

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<v Speaker 7>I actually I'm going through all these courses. I'm planning

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<v Speaker 7>to apply to their nursing program. And the reason I

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<v Speaker 7>found out that my high school transcript doesn't work is

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<v Speaker 7>because I need an accredited transcript to get into the

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<v Speaker 7>nursing program. So after all of this college I'm going

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<v Speaker 7>to go through, I then have to get my GED.

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<v Speaker 3>To apply.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so you don't need a GED to go to

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<v Speaker 4>community college, but you needed to get into the nursing program.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes to doing it kind of backwards.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's real weird.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know that you can get into communic college

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<v Speaker 3>without a high school diploma.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I'm doing it.

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<v Speaker 4>That so, like if you could just so if you

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to, you don't have to fucking go to elementary school.

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<v Speaker 3>You can just start back community college.

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<v Speaker 7>It might be different in different states because, like, my

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<v Speaker 7>community college has a specific thing when you apply, it

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<v Speaker 7>says like did you graduate from public school? GED or homeschool?

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<v Speaker 7>And you just got to click that option. They're like,

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<v Speaker 7>I guess that's good.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>If you tell them they're homeschool, then they're like, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>you will give you a pass because.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I guess. So it's it's real weird. People move

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<v Speaker 7>to my state just to homeschool their kids because it's

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<v Speaker 7>so lax.

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<v Speaker 3>What what was I gonna say? What? What's your relationship

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<v Speaker 3>like with your parents?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 7>Don't talk to him?

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<v Speaker 3>Don't talk to him.

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<v Speaker 7>No, they're terrible.

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<v Speaker 3>Well I was the last time you spoke with him.

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<v Speaker 7>Ah, spoke to my mom. I haven't talked to my

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<v Speaker 7>dad in over two years. My mom I keep in

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<v Speaker 7>touch with every once in a while, so I talked

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<v Speaker 7>to her kind of recently. We go, we go up

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<v Speaker 7>and down.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that is that something that you you you grieve about.

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<v Speaker 6>Or don't grieve?

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<v Speaker 7>Grieve? I've done a lot of grieving about that. I

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<v Speaker 7>think that's the basically the thing that like cut off

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<v Speaker 7>me and my parents as I came out as gay

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<v Speaker 7>and they were like, no, that is satanic, then kicked

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<v Speaker 7>me out of the house. So that was just a

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<v Speaker 7>bunch of traumas. But I had to grief. You're right,

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<v Speaker 7>I had to grieve, and I did. I let myself

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<v Speaker 7>do that, and I think I'm in a better place

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<v Speaker 7>now because of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean that's great that you were able to

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<v Speaker 4>start to form your own life after after you know,

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<v Speaker 4>your parents weren't able to necessarily give it to you.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I got a good chosen family. I have a

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<v Speaker 7>great girlfriend who have been with for five years. She's

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<v Speaker 7>been my rock.

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<v Speaker 3>For five years.

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<v Speaker 7>You say, yeah, five years.

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<v Speaker 3>Has she ever met your parents?

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<v Speaker 7>A couple of times very briefly. We've known each other

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<v Speaker 7>since we were twelve, so she's like it was kind

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<v Speaker 7>of she's kind of met them, but not really.

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<v Speaker 3>What what was what was that like?

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<v Speaker 5>When?

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<v Speaker 3>When when did you come out to your bets?

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<v Speaker 7>When I was eighteen, eighteen or nineteen?

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<v Speaker 3>What was that? Like?

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<v Speaker 5>Awful?

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<v Speaker 7>Really bad?

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<v Speaker 3>I was.

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<v Speaker 7>I had already moved out of their house because some

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<v Speaker 7>other shit was going on, and was living with a

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<v Speaker 7>different church family. And when I came out to them,

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<v Speaker 7>that family then told me if you act, think on

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<v Speaker 7>or be gay, we will kick you right back out.

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<v Speaker 7>So I kind of had to go back in the

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<v Speaker 7>closet and it was an awful, awful time in my life,

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<v Speaker 7>but I kind of got through it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's that's so good that you got out of that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. Yeah, it's so it's so annoying that like

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<v Speaker 3>still talking people are like that.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but they told me I was going to lead

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<v Speaker 7>people to hell. There was I was involved in. It

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<v Speaker 7>was a cult, right, My family was in like a cult,

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<v Speaker 7>and uh, there was a guy. People would come up

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<v Speaker 7>to us because they believe they had like gifts of

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<v Speaker 7>visions and stuff. And he came up to me and

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<v Speaker 7>he was like after I came out, and he was like,

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<v Speaker 7>I had a vision that you were going to lead

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<v Speaker 7>people into a portal to hell. So that really broke

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<v Speaker 7>my brain from mile.

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<v Speaker 3>He had a vision that you were going to lead

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<v Speaker 3>people into hell.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, he like.

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<v Speaker 3>It was.

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<v Speaker 7>It was a wild vision. It was like people, they

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<v Speaker 7>were totally fine, and then you were leading them through

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<v Speaker 7>this portal and they came out all scabby with scars,

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<v Speaker 7>and they thought that they were okay, but they're actually

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<v Speaker 7>not because of you. You're leading them to hell. And

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<v Speaker 7>it was like a like a metaphor for gainess.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's kind of badass.

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<v Speaker 7>Right when you think about it, you turn it around

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<v Speaker 7>kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, yeah, that's cool. I mean that's kind of

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<v Speaker 4>like what like, you know, heavy metal and shit is

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<v Speaker 4>to me, it's like taking this stuff that's supposed to

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<v Speaker 4>be bad and owning it is like, no, this is

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<v Speaker 4>actually fucking cool. I'm leading motherfuckers into hell right now.

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<v Speaker 4>You better fear me.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 4>What what Okay, So so if you knew you knew

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<v Speaker 4>was it a community or was it just you? You

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<v Speaker 4>were like the house down the street that was religious

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<v Speaker 4>that no one talked to. Was it because I'm curious

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<v Speaker 4>about your girlfriend. Was your girlfriend from the similar community?

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<v Speaker 7>No? No, we uh she was not. She did not

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<v Speaker 7>grow up religious, thank god, she her parents raised. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>it's weird how we met a girl from my church

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<v Speaker 7>invited me to one of her sleepovers and I met

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<v Speaker 7>my future girlfriend there. But she went to school with

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<v Speaker 7>this other girl. So yeah, my family, we lived out

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<v Speaker 7>in the boonies. We didn't celebrate Halloween, so you know,

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<v Speaker 7>like we didn't talk to anybody from the community. But

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<v Speaker 7>like the cult though, that was the only thing we knew.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so this was a cult.

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<v Speaker 7>My parents were in a cult. Yeah, it's it's a

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<v Speaker 7>little complicated.

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<v Speaker 4>What sort of true I mean this was They weren't

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<v Speaker 4>just like super really what sort of traditions did they

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<v Speaker 4>have that you think separated them from just being a

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<v Speaker 4>fucking crazy church to being like, this is a cult.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, there's a couple characteristics of cults, right, Like the

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<v Speaker 7>cults want you to stop talking to your family members.

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<v Speaker 7>So my family had cut off all communication from their family.

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<v Speaker 7>There's like a thing called love bombing, and that's where

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<v Speaker 7>when you like you do the right thing, they like

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<v Speaker 7>really praise you. So like my like my parents were

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<v Speaker 7>into like this very like you know, spiritual kind of

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<v Speaker 7>like shaking on the floor sort of worships are. I

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<v Speaker 7>got into that because that's what I was told to do.

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<v Speaker 7>So a lot of like weird spiritual vision, spiritual warfare,

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<v Speaker 7>demon fighting ship. It was weird. My parents like anointed

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<v Speaker 7>the doors if they thought that evil was going to

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<v Speaker 7>come in the house, an anoint the door, like they

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<v Speaker 7>would like take oil and anoint the door if they like,

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<v Speaker 7>especially during Halloween, because they thought that like demons would

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<v Speaker 7>come in, so they would like anoint the doors with

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<v Speaker 7>oil and like prey and fung. Yeah, I remember kids

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<v Speaker 7>throwing eggs at our house because we would never give

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<v Speaker 7>a kid. My parents would lock us in the basement.

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<v Speaker 7>Actually for Halloween, we would annoint the doors and then

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<v Speaker 7>they'd lock us in the base I doesn't it's now

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<v Speaker 7>that you say it like that, it makes me a

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<v Speaker 7>rethink some things.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, well, I mean that's a Halloween is a

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<v Speaker 4>terrifying moment for you know, strictly religious households. Because demon

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<v Speaker 4>because because look, normally, if you think the demons are

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<v Speaker 4>going to show up at your door, you're you're crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>But on little.

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<v Speaker 4>Halloween there might be demons showing up at your door.

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<v Speaker 4>They yeah, yeah, well what do you what do you

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<v Speaker 4>what are you trying to be?

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<v Speaker 3>Trying to be a nurse? You said you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>Nison school.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, go on.

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<v Speaker 7>To trying to apply to the nursing program. So if

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<v Speaker 7>I fail all my biology classes, I'll have to do

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<v Speaker 7>something else. We're going to try not to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you look, whatever you do, you know you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to kill it. My friends, what do you say your

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<v Speaker 3>name was?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh my name is Adre.

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<v Speaker 4>Well listen, Audrey, thank you, thank you again for calling in,

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<v Speaker 4>and uh you know, best of luck in school, my dude.

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<v Speaker 4>Congratulations you escaping the cults.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you, Thank you so much for talking with me.

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<v Speaker 7>You've really made my night. I appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for calling in. You having to go rest

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<v Speaker 3>to the night, Audrea, Yeah you too, Good night, Good night.

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<v Speaker 2>All from Solo.

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<v Speaker 3>Solo Soto.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, what's you know? Are you from somewhere? You say

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<v Speaker 4>you have an accent of some kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yes, I'm from England.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh fuck yeah, man, I heard that there's a coronavirus

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<v Speaker 4>strain that's muted. It's mutating in England.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're gladly I'm not there right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's cool. Why what made you leave England?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I originally went to go teach English in Singapore

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<v Speaker 2>and I met some very cool people. I met my

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<v Speaker 2>current roommate. Now we live together in New York.

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<v Speaker 3>His name is Jusef Nice.

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<v Speaker 4>Now you guys met in Singapore, you said, teaching English?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, both of us? Yes, did you do?

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<v Speaker 4>You do the whole crazy let's go to the hostels

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<v Speaker 4>and go see the world and you know, die and

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<v Speaker 4>all that stuff before we you know, go to see

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<v Speaker 4>all the world.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, not really. We did take a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of the a little bit of a trip over to

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<v Speaker 2>China as well as Taiwan's nice, but that's oh it's

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<v Speaker 2>a beautiful place. Yes. We didn't even go to the

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<v Speaker 2>north where they have the well they have that really

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<v Speaker 2>big city tai Bay. But were we We went more

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<v Speaker 2>to the east where there were mountains.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell me tell me about the day you met Joseph. Joseph,

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<v Speaker 4>tell me tell me what your first impression m was Yousef.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a very interesting bloke. He came into the school

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<v Speaker 2>after I did, about four months after I did, and

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<v Speaker 2>we were we were pretty much the only ones who

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<v Speaker 2>had very very proficient English, you know, people from that

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<v Speaker 2>area of the world. Uh, they wanted to go over

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<v Speaker 2>to Singapore. Most of the must of the world, is

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<v Speaker 2>it English people and all the Americans. They want to

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<v Speaker 2>go more towards say, China and all that in Japan,

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<v Speaker 2>but Singapore was an option more for English people, I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>And we just became very good friends. You know. We

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<v Speaker 2>invited well not way, I invited him over to my

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<v Speaker 2>place and we just got to know each other a

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<v Speaker 2>little better.

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<v Speaker 4>Nice and now you guys have a blossom and American relationship.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys are a couple of Where's Yusuf from?

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<v Speaker 2>I do believe that he's also from England, very different

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<v Speaker 2>part than me, though I'm from more of the central

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<v Speaker 2>part of England. He's from the south.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll listen, look, now that we've gotten our corson, now

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<v Speaker 4>that we've gotten to know each other, and now that

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<v Speaker 4>we've established a rapport in which, you know, I get

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<v Speaker 4>the sense that you trust me and that you're willing

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<v Speaker 4>to tell me everything, and that you'd be willing to

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<v Speaker 4>die for me. And I'm happy that we've progressed this

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<v Speaker 4>far and to our relationship and now that we have

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<v Speaker 4>and now that you know we trust each other so deeply.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to know from you, what is what is

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<v Speaker 4>your greatest nightmare?

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<v Speaker 2>Now, by nightmare, do you do you mean like your

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<v Speaker 2>living nightmare? You're like, I am on earth, this is

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<v Speaker 2>my living nightmare, because I would have to say that

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<v Speaker 2>it is children in a restaurant being very very loud.

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<v Speaker 4>So your nightmare is being in a restaurant with a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of loud children. Yes, would you ever have? Are

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<v Speaker 4>you planning to have children at some point in your life?

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't really thought about it all too much, but

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<v Speaker 2>I mean mostly you know, you're in a restaurant and

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<v Speaker 2>you're trying to enjoy yourself rather well, this happens way

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<v Speaker 2>too much in America, truth to be told. But you're

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<v Speaker 2>sitting there and there's a family, you know that they

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<v Speaker 2>have parents with the little kids, okay, and they're just

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<v Speaker 2>screaming and crying, kicking everywhere. Parents they aren't doing anything

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<v Speaker 2>to stop it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, my goodness, if I mean so if you

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<v Speaker 4>were if you were a h if you had kids,

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<v Speaker 4>you would you know, whip whip them into shape and ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, whipping into shape metaphor glue. Of course I

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<v Speaker 2>would never, I guess, strike them or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>That's nice. No, you seem like you seem like you're

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<v Speaker 3>above that.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you Would you ever hit your kids? Life?

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<v Speaker 3>But I ever hit my kids. I don't know. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>if they were hitting me firste if they had a

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<v Speaker 3>weapon of some kind. If I had to defend a

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<v Speaker 3>baseball bat, yeah, if I if I had to defend myself,

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<v Speaker 3>I absolutely would. You know, whatever holds.

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<v Speaker 2>Up very much respected.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, what about your what about your your your your

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<v Speaker 3>you know, subconscious nightmare?

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds very weird because I do have a girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't want to die alone. And I realized

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<v Speaker 2>that that is very cliche. But I've had bodies go

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<v Speaker 2>down the pipe all the time. They have they have

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<v Speaker 2>blazers of them of their own and it's all been

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<v Speaker 2>going very well for them or whatever, but then just

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<v Speaker 2>just lay it down down the line there they they

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<v Speaker 2>just lose it and then they never have a girlfriend again.

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<v Speaker 2>We're pretty much at that age, you know, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>settling down, then you're not going to be keeping them

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<v Speaker 2>for very long. Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want to settle down?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it'd be very nice. Yes, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>where exactly I would, just because I do think that

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to see a little bit more of

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<v Speaker 2>the world before I do that. However, Yeah, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>just get that I won't get to that point with

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<v Speaker 2>this wonderful woman that I'm saying, She's truly wonderful.

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<v Speaker 4>How old are if you don't let me ask you,

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<v Speaker 4>how old am I? Twenty heaven twenty seven is still

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<v Speaker 4>pretty young. There's a lot of room for you to

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<v Speaker 4>go and see shit. But uh, you know, I also

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<v Speaker 4>I also think it depends on like what kind of

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<v Speaker 4>what kind of person you know? You get your gal

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<v Speaker 4>is right, like if you have you know, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 4>all the things that you know you want to do

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<v Speaker 4>before you settle down and have ten screaming restaurant children,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure she wants to do stuff like that too,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, possibly, So you know, there's there's a room

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<v Speaker 4>for that, if if the if the if the charts

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<v Speaker 4>align for you to go take some trips, for you

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<v Speaker 4>to go fuck around in uh, all these all these places,

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<v Speaker 4>do these things that you want to do before you

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<v Speaker 4>you know, uh, before you you settle down. But if not,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, at least you're living whatever life.

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<v Speaker 2>Of you is.

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<v Speaker 4>The shows and hey you can also you can always

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<v Speaker 4>get divorced if you need to.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's true. However, it's it's kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>weird option, don't you think, because you go this whole

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<v Speaker 2>time and you say, all right, I'm going to kick

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to commit to you, yeah, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>just you just cross that, you just cross that in

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<v Speaker 2>your hand. It's true.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you never you never want to, you never want

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<v Speaker 3>to go into it with that.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I think too many people go into it

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<v Speaker 2>right now with like, oh, yeah I can get married

0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:47.840
<v Speaker 2>and then if things don't work out, then I can

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, take the ring back and we can

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<v Speaker 2>go through all of that fun little courtship. And my goodness,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you could really put another person

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<v Speaker 2>through that the except for when it's obviously very very mutual.

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<v Speaker 4>But damn, you know, you're I could tell you're you're

0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:12.119
<v Speaker 4>you're a you're a very wholesome guy. You definitely I

0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:13.920
<v Speaker 4>could tell you you you do a lot to please

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<v Speaker 4>other people.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe yes, maybe to a fault.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think so? Do you think it's to a fault?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Mh. In what ways do you think it's to a fault?

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<v Speaker 5>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose, if I can put this broadly, that you're

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<v Speaker 2>you're giving this platter of opportunities correct, like be it romantic, educational, vocational,

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<v Speaker 2>all of that, and there are other people around you

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<v Speaker 2>who are also going to be grabbing from it. Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>I tend to be the more conservative one who doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>take more than say, two pieces of sushi off of

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<v Speaker 2>that tree m.

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<v Speaker 5>H.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just kind of like let everybody else step

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<v Speaker 2>over me. And I'm a little bit too nice about

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<v Speaker 2>all of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Why do you feel like but so okay? So this

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 3>is in this, in this sort of analogy. Are you

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<v Speaker 3>not taking uh more than two pieces of sushi because

0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:24.240
<v Speaker 3>you're trying to leave some sushi for for other people?

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:28.320
<v Speaker 3>You know? Do you do you? What? What is?

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<v Speaker 2>I do? Suppose? That is the question?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>And like why am I not taking more? And a

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<v Speaker 2>phrase I've learned here, which I think is just absolutely

0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:41.720
<v Speaker 2>magnificent is chase the bag. I think that is hilarious.

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:45.479
<v Speaker 2>I love imagining somebody chase chasing this bag of whatever

0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:47.200
<v Speaker 2>it is that they're chasing.

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:49.399
<v Speaker 4>You know, to get the paper, to get the paper,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, get the money. You know, you chase chase

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:56.880
<v Speaker 4>after money. There's a there's an expression, there's a there's

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<v Speaker 4>a there's an expression out there. You know, uh, you

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<v Speaker 4>want you might you might lose money chasing women, but

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 4>you won't lose women chasing money.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness. Yeah, that that's one to think about.

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<v Speaker 3>What in what other ways do you do you do

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<v Speaker 3>you think? I want to know? I want like a

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<v Speaker 3>like a like a.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yes, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Want to I want an example of a time, a

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<v Speaker 4>time in which you feel like you you sacrifice yourself

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<v Speaker 4>and your desire, you what you wanted for the sake

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:34.160
<v Speaker 4>of someone else.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's take it back to Singapore. Okay, when

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<v Speaker 2>I was still teaching there, there was this lady in

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<v Speaker 2>the school, you know, and of course we we had

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<v Speaker 2>to fancy each other, and as it naturally happens, and

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<v Speaker 2>then ah, after about five months of being together, let's

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 2>just round up to six. But after after about half

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<v Speaker 2>a year together, she started to get a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more more demanding on certain things that she wanted out

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<v Speaker 2>of the relationship, like moving in together, saving money and stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's not something that I'm quite comfortable doing. However,

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 2>she got really really pushy on that. And it's not

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<v Speaker 2>that I said I wouldn't. I don't want to settle

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<v Speaker 2>down with this woman for the rest of my life

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<v Speaker 2>or anything. It's just I allowed her to push me

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<v Speaker 2>out of my comfort zone. And we moved in briefly.

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<v Speaker 2>We signed an eight months lease because that was how

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<v Speaker 2>long my teaching contract was still staying up, and so

0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 2>we signed up into that and then not even a

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<v Speaker 2>month into living there, she decided to break things off.

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 2>So not even me, it was it was her who

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<v Speaker 2>broke up the relationship there, and it was it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was frankly devastating.

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<v Speaker 4>So so you so you were pressured in the so

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:57.719
<v Speaker 4>she pressured you in the first place into moving in

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<v Speaker 4>with her, but the end then why you were and

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<v Speaker 4>then eight months into it, you she she broke up

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<v Speaker 4>with you. Yes, how do you think she was able

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<v Speaker 4>to pro Why? Why did why was she so adamant

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<v Speaker 4>about you guys moving in together?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? She she wanted to save money. She was one

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<v Speaker 2>of the newer teachers there. I was I was already

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<v Speaker 2>a teacher for two years at that point. Uh so,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I was already a little bit more well off,

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<v Speaker 2>and I did live with people.

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<v Speaker 3>My first were you were you were you paying all

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<v Speaker 3>the rent?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we kind of pro rated it. She took

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<v Speaker 2>about four hundred of it, and then I took the

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<v Speaker 2>six hundred. If we're going out of the playoffs an example.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, m I.

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<v Speaker 2>Used the US dotter, Yes what you were? U S dollars?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yeah, he's US os or okay, well and what

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 4>we call them GHAK bills where I am, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, GAK bills, Yeah, in Gakland.

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<v Speaker 4>So that was stupid. You know, look, sometimes I want,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I I try. I I I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>how much of what I'm doing is me being a character,

0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 4>and sometimes I add lore to it. But I think

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<v Speaker 4>that just now, that was that. That wasn't that wasn't rhythmic.

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<v Speaker 4>That was just felt kind of stupid. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 4>Look we're going to move past that. Yeah, I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>so she was paying so she So you had a

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<v Speaker 4>sixty forty agreement, correct? Is this something you want to

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<v Speaker 4>change about yourself?

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<v Speaker 3>Like? Do you you want to feel like you can

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 3>you want you want to? What? What was it?

0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 2>What?

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 3>How was she able to convince How was she able

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 3>to convince you to do it?

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<v Speaker 2>That truly is the age of question. I don't necessarily know,

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<v Speaker 2>because that was always something that I said, step fast,

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<v Speaker 2>step fast on pretty much the entire time when I

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:54.479
<v Speaker 2>when I was back home. There was also another there

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<v Speaker 2>was also another lady who was trying to get me

0:30:57.000 --> 0:31:02.840
<v Speaker 2>to do something along the same lines there. But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, eventually she just kind of swoons me into it.

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 2>It was nothing right, It was nothing r rated at

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<v Speaker 2>or anything. It was just kind of after a certain point.

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<v Speaker 4>Of her nothing are raally she didn't she she she

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 4>wasn't like holding. She wasn't like, hey, if you move in,

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 4>we'll have sex a bunch.

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<v Speaker 2>No, absolutely, you know that that was a very little

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<v Speaker 2>concern to me.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, you're you're you're You're a pure guy. You're not

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 4>you're not driven by You're not seem driven by money

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 4>or lust.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it. Actually, money is something I guess that

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:44.760
<v Speaker 2>I do love a little bit more than I should

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<v Speaker 2>if if you're one of those Bible people.

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<v Speaker 3>But what what drives you? My friend?

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 2>What drives me mostly I will I will live for

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<v Speaker 2>my friends and I will die for my friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, relationships are important to.

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<v Speaker 2>You, yes, very much so. And the what is it,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess romantic side those relationships that those don't necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>weigh too much on the or anything. It's more so

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<v Speaker 2>just having a relationship with somebody because people are so

0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 2>different in the so magnificent or every single one of us,

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 2>that it would just be a wasted opportunity to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of leave a relationship behind with somebody.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't know, I you know, I actually have

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<v Speaker 4>a lot. I have a lot of respect for that mentality,

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<v Speaker 4>I really do. I think that you know, you you

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<v Speaker 4>you hold look, our relationships with other people on the

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<v Speaker 4>planet Earth is is definitely something to be held sacred,

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<v Speaker 4>for sure. But I think it is also you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's it's it's hard because I really do believe that,

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<v Speaker 4>and you're really doing a you know, a bang up

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 4>job of that. But at the same time, you don't

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 4>want to hold them so sacred that you're neglecting your

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 4>own needs, because sometimes you can't afford to drop a

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 4>couple of people. I mean, there's seven billion people, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>not all their relationships with all of them can't be

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<v Speaker 4>worth dying for.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're right, You're right, and it's something that I

0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 2>actually came to realize in a bit of their silence.

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 2>There is that just there are definitely people who are

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<v Speaker 2>going to try to take advantage of you, and I

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 2>try to put that at the very back of the

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<v Speaker 2>list for pretty much everybody. I like to give people

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 2>the benefit of the doubt, and I do think that

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 2>that is where my problem comes in. You know, I

0:33:56.440 --> 0:33:59.160
<v Speaker 2>kind of let people push me around because I want

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:02.480
<v Speaker 2>them to succeed. I want to see them grow in

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 2>a relationship with me as well.

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:07.400
<v Speaker 3>How do you feel how what's your relationship like with yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>With myself, I would say it's very good. And I

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:14.120
<v Speaker 2>started therapy about a couple of months ago because I

0:34:14.160 --> 0:34:17.080
<v Speaker 2>was going through I was going through some trouble with

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 2>my with my family. But I guess we don't need

0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:28.160
<v Speaker 2>to get into that. But after, especially after getting into therapy,

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 2>I saw a lot of positive things come out of

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 2>that because my therapist was telling me about how my

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 2>feelings are still valid in everything. Yeah, and it's not

0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:46.319
<v Speaker 2>something that people can take from you, you know.

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 3>It's people can take from you.

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 2>Right that that that's something that I guess I struggled

0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 2>with there for a second because there were manipulating they

0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:05.439
<v Speaker 2>were manipulativeeople around me. But after after she was there

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 2>to help me with you know, your your feelings are valid.

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:12.840
<v Speaker 2>You're allowed to feel this way. How you react to

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:17.600
<v Speaker 2>it is where is where everybody else can either be

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 2>helped or they are or they're going to get her

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:25.799
<v Speaker 2>in some way. Basically, I'm paraphrasing what she said. She

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:31.440
<v Speaker 2>was she was spectacular in in delivering that to me.

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:34.319
<v Speaker 2>But I can't. I can't do it justice at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm. You know, I do I do feel like

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 3>do you do?

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:45.680
<v Speaker 4>You do you feel like before you were I know

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:47.439
<v Speaker 4>you said you're dating someone, but you do you feel

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:49.799
<v Speaker 4>like you ever had at like a good period of

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 4>time in your life where you were able to develop

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:55.760
<v Speaker 4>a relationship with just yourself and really get into being alone.

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Hm hmm. I imagine the only time for that would

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:07.480
<v Speaker 2>be during say primary or something primary school.

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:10.560
<v Speaker 4>I feel like that's something that's happening a lot that

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:14.480
<v Speaker 4>people are started being forced into now with quarantine.

0:36:16.960 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, yes they were also. I guess now that

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:24.960
<v Speaker 2>you point that out that there were times where we

0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:28.279
<v Speaker 2>were just me and yusef. We were here in our

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 2>apartment and we couldn't go see anybody because the streets

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 2>are up to abandon in NYC. And I guess I

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:41.200
<v Speaker 2>guess that was both a negative time but also a

0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:46.240
<v Speaker 2>very positive time because I did get that time with myself. Finally,

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:48.839
<v Speaker 2>because as you can tell, I'm probably as you can

0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:51.400
<v Speaker 2>probably tell, I'm a very social guy. I like to

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:52.399
<v Speaker 2>put myself out there.

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 4>Ye.

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:58.960
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I'll see what you're saying. And definitely sometime

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:01.439
<v Speaker 2>during all this COVID business, I did get some time

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 2>for introspection.

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:12.239
<v Speaker 3>Fuck should you still there? Damn? I last I can?

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 4>Oh sweet, okay, amazing, Sorry, so sorry, I mean I

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 4>gotta FaceTime, Carl. I couldn't hear what you what you

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:18.759
<v Speaker 4>said just now?

0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh, no problem?

0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 8>Hm.

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:27.360
<v Speaker 3>So you should be pissed at me?

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:33.040
<v Speaker 2>No, No, I shouldn't. It's a it's a very undostendable problem.

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:40.280
<v Speaker 3>No, it is, I know. And so your therapist was

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 3>was was helpful?

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes? Absolutely, I would. And I do realize that the

0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 2>therapy in your in your title is perhaps for jest,

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:57.319
<v Speaker 2>but yes, true, truly, people seeking therapy should be not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily a number one priority, but definitely put it somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>near the top of your list because it is a

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<v Speaker 2>very helpful thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Beautiful. Well, what would you say? Your name was, uh, Solo.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, everybody calls me Solom. My name is Solomon.

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<v Speaker 4>Solomon. Well, Solomon, thank thank you again for coming in

0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 4>and sharing your story with this man. Everyone in the

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:25.880
<v Speaker 4>chat it's going crazy about you. You should, you know,

0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:27.920
<v Speaker 4>take some of your take some of your catchphrases and

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<v Speaker 4>put them on.

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<v Speaker 3>On T shirts.

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<v Speaker 2>I will try that.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate you, Solomon. You have a rest of the night.

0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Man, Yes, you too. It's been a pleasure.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby from Bryant brandt.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh like Kobe, like Kobe. Yeah, what's your nightmare?

0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:15.920
<v Speaker 4>Bryant?

0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 5>What's my name?

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:19.840
<v Speaker 3>Your nightmare?

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:27.040
<v Speaker 5>Oh, my nightmare. I'm awfully nervous for some reason.

0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:30.400
<v Speaker 2>It's just very vital.

0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:33.879
<v Speaker 4>I think that that's a good that's a good mind

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:35.840
<v Speaker 4>state to be. You know, when you're talking about your nightmares,

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:37.000
<v Speaker 4>you know that should make you nervous.

0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:43.200
<v Speaker 2>No, you're talking about ghosts and ship you know, ghosts.

0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:48.160
<v Speaker 4>Don't be nervous talking to me. I'm very weak, all right.

0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:50.279
<v Speaker 4>There's nothing about me that should pose any amount of

0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:51.400
<v Speaker 4>a threat to anyone.

0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:55.280
<v Speaker 5>I think I have a lot that losing my penis

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:58.799
<v Speaker 5>is one of them, I think, really yeah, or just

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:01.719
<v Speaker 5>not being able to use it because it's such a

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 5>good like coping thing.

0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 3>For me, using your penis. Yes, in in in what

0:41:10.560 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 3>way do you cope using your penis?

0:41:15.600 --> 0:41:19.960
<v Speaker 5>You know, I would probably say over ninety nine percent masturbation?

0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 3>M Yeah, so you you you fear losing the the

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 3>ability to to masturbate?

0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, or just like any anything, you know, Like I

0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 5>heard a lot about the anti depressants, and that can

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:46.239
<v Speaker 5>be one of them, or any kind of psychiatric medications

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 5>really affect it. So you know it, there's a lot

0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 5>of difference.

0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 3>I've heard that. I've heard that.

0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but you know, I mean what you know, look,

0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:02.200
<v Speaker 4>even if if that went away, let's say that went away,

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:04.560
<v Speaker 4>let's say you couldn't do that anymore, what would you

0:42:05.560 --> 0:42:08.640
<v Speaker 4>what would you fill that time with? Because look, I

0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:10.759
<v Speaker 4>know from experience, you know, you if it's something when

0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:13.239
<v Speaker 4>you're when you're really going crazy, when you're really going

0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:14.839
<v Speaker 4>at it, when you're like, you know, four or five

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:17.759
<v Speaker 4>times a day, you know when it's when when the

0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:19.400
<v Speaker 4>peckers turning red?

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<v Speaker 3>You know it.

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:25.360
<v Speaker 4>It's a lot of time. It takes a lot of

0:42:25.360 --> 0:42:29.120
<v Speaker 4>time to to to ejaculate, and there's a lot of

0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:30.800
<v Speaker 4>times that you could be spending doing other stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think I think just helping people would probably

0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:38.839
<v Speaker 5>be That's why I questioned whether or not God is real,

0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 5>because if he got rid of my dick, I'd probably

0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:44.080
<v Speaker 5>just like put effort into like being a good person,

0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:46.800
<v Speaker 5>or like becoming a rocket scientist.

0:42:46.520 --> 0:42:47.879
<v Speaker 2>Or I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>So you're telling me that if you didn't jack off,

0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:56.640
<v Speaker 4>you would dedicate your life to helping people and become

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<v Speaker 4>a rocket scientist.

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:00.239
<v Speaker 5>I'm one of the other.

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 4>And look, that's not a bullshit. And look I know

0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:03.239
<v Speaker 4>you're laughing, but that's not a bullshit. I've had the

0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:06.560
<v Speaker 4>same exact thought. I've got the same exact thought. I

0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 4>have sat in post ejaculate mind state, thinking that if

0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:19.479
<v Speaker 4>I did not have balls, I could be I could

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 4>I could become a scientist of some kind, I could

0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:24.880
<v Speaker 4>be an astronaut, I could go to space. I do

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:29.720
<v Speaker 4>believe that, So it's not a right thought.

0:43:29.480 --> 0:43:33.879
<v Speaker 5>My library would become much more extensive, it might be

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<v Speaker 5>a more enjoyable life. I think about God a lot,

0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:40.279
<v Speaker 5>and I think about I think about like people who

0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 5>are parallel and how could God allow something like this?

0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:47.840
<v Speaker 5>And I think about but I didn't. I'm not living

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:50.880
<v Speaker 5>their lives. You know, what kind of life are you living?

0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:54.760
<v Speaker 5>What kind of life does God? What kind of connection

0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:57.560
<v Speaker 5>does he have with you in those states? I don't know.

0:43:57.600 --> 0:44:00.600
<v Speaker 5>I'm just very intrigued by it. I'm been learning a

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:05.920
<v Speaker 5>lot lately about myself and you know, a spiritual presence,

0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 5>and I hear you talk a lot about it, so

0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:10.920
<v Speaker 5>I was I was excited to talk to you. M M.

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<v Speaker 3>Where do you think God's place is in your life?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I know he doesn't want me to just be

0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:33.799
<v Speaker 5>so be focused on me, you know, because that's that's

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:37.719
<v Speaker 5>when the problems starts. I know he doesn't want me

0:44:39.080 --> 0:44:43.319
<v Speaker 5>to drink, and I know he doesn't want me to

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<v Speaker 5>be depressed.

0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:50.520
<v Speaker 4>Okay, he doesn't want you to make your life all

0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:52.560
<v Speaker 4>about you. Is that what you That's what you said

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:54.400
<v Speaker 4>you want to selfishly?

0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:59.359
<v Speaker 5>Yes, self selfishness is the root of all my problems.

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<v Speaker 4>It's interesting because I've never I've never really taken a

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:07.040
<v Speaker 4>time to think about, you know, masturbation in the light

0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 4>of it being a selfish act. And I don't think

0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:16.759
<v Speaker 4>it is necessarily but it but but Look, this sounds crazy,

0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:21.600
<v Speaker 4>but masturbation is inherently It's inherently masturbatory that I don't

0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:25.839
<v Speaker 4>think about a lot. But I don't know if it's

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:29.040
<v Speaker 4>if it's if it's selfish. Do you can do you

0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:31.359
<v Speaker 4>CONSI do you consider it selfish?

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<v Speaker 5>You know? I like it so much that I don't

0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:36.560
<v Speaker 5>even care what it is because I'm not gonna stop.

0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:42.160
<v Speaker 5>I'm not going to stop doing it until I can't anymore.

0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:47.799
<v Speaker 5>I'm getting older, you know, and you know I'm not

0:45:48.360 --> 0:45:52.759
<v Speaker 5>a spring chicken anymore. So, but it's still I still

0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:54.239
<v Speaker 5>keep it going, you know.

0:45:56.200 --> 0:45:56.600
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 5>I don't know how to explain it, but yeah.

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:07.120
<v Speaker 4>You're splanning it, splanning it perfectly. Well, dude, but you

0:46:07.600 --> 0:46:10.359
<v Speaker 4>said you've been, you said you've been struggling to.

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<v Speaker 3>With you with your idea of God.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, yeah, so you know what.

0:46:21.120 --> 0:46:21.480
<v Speaker 2>I've been.

0:46:21.640 --> 0:46:23.719
<v Speaker 5>I've been in an AA like in and out for

0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:28.719
<v Speaker 5>a while, and just recently I got one hundred and

0:46:28.800 --> 0:46:33.799
<v Speaker 5>twenty eight days sober now. And they kind of tell

0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:35.759
<v Speaker 5>you in the program is in the morning, you get

0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:38.000
<v Speaker 5>on your knees and you say the third step prayer,

0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:41.799
<v Speaker 5>and it's kind of like you ask God and I'm

0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 5>totally not buying any of this, even though I've experienced

0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:47.719
<v Speaker 5>like just good things start to happen. But you kind

0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:52.320
<v Speaker 5>of ask God be like, you know, take away my difficulties,

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:55.360
<v Speaker 5>that victory over them may bear witness to those I

0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:58.759
<v Speaker 5>would help. And it's kind of like, whatever you want

0:46:58.760 --> 0:47:03.480
<v Speaker 5>me to do today, I'm I'm I'll try to be

0:47:03.520 --> 0:47:06.160
<v Speaker 5>receptive of it, Like, help me to be receptive of

0:47:06.160 --> 0:47:08.640
<v Speaker 5>what you want me to do. And then things just

0:47:08.640 --> 0:47:11.440
<v Speaker 5>started happening. You know, I lost my job. I was

0:47:11.440 --> 0:47:14.400
<v Speaker 5>in the mental hospital and in March, and I just

0:47:14.440 --> 0:47:19.440
<v Speaker 5>got a really good job. You know, my relationship with

0:47:19.440 --> 0:47:22.440
<v Speaker 5>my girlfriend has gotten a lot better, Like and I

0:47:22.800 --> 0:47:25.880
<v Speaker 5>don't like sleep all day and and I didn't get

0:47:25.920 --> 0:47:27.560
<v Speaker 5>out of my bed for like a year. I was

0:47:27.600 --> 0:47:32.400
<v Speaker 5>so freaking depressed. You know, a lot of people on

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:35.080
<v Speaker 5>here get put with a lot of medications and stuff

0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:36.960
<v Speaker 5>like that. I hear I've been on I've been on

0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:43.200
<v Speaker 5>some pretty heavy antipsychotics, and they are while they're they're rough,

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:46.520
<v Speaker 5>they are hard. So anybody who's going through that, like,

0:47:47.160 --> 0:47:53.279
<v Speaker 5>just no, just you know, be patient and uh, but

0:47:53.360 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 5>I've been through much. And then I just started to

0:47:55.480 --> 0:47:58.759
<v Speaker 5>do these these these prayers, and I'm not buying it,

0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:00.799
<v Speaker 5>like I don't I don't buy and the God and

0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:04.680
<v Speaker 5>but these things just started changing for me. So I'm

0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:08.200
<v Speaker 5>met a turmoil, you know, I'm at a crossroads or

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:09.800
<v Speaker 5>I don't know what to think anymore?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it? You know? Is this some gimmick?

0:48:14.000 --> 0:48:15.759
<v Speaker 5>Is it some kind of gimmick that if you just

0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:18.200
<v Speaker 5>kind of play your life like that. I don't know

0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:19.160
<v Speaker 5>how to explain.

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<v Speaker 3>It a gimmick? What do you mean by gimmick?

0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:26.400
<v Speaker 5>Religion? You know? God? You know, it's for the people

0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:32.800
<v Speaker 5>that need it, you know, the people that can't handle

0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:36.680
<v Speaker 5>life as is, They need to believe in something bigger.

0:48:36.360 --> 0:48:40.040
<v Speaker 3>Say O, I thought I've sort of thought about that,

0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:42.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, is it? Is it a gimmick?

0:48:42.080 --> 0:48:44.160
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I I don't think too long and heart

0:48:44.160 --> 0:48:46.400
<v Speaker 4>about it because I don't you know, Look, if I'm

0:48:46.440 --> 0:48:49.160
<v Speaker 4>not involved in a community, I don't, you know, I

0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:52.400
<v Speaker 4>try not to judge or anything like that, but uh,

0:48:52.600 --> 0:48:54.799
<v Speaker 4>I can I can see where you're coming from. I mean, look,

0:48:54.840 --> 0:48:56.719
<v Speaker 4>people like having something to believe in. I mean, does

0:48:56.800 --> 0:48:57.439
<v Speaker 4>it serve you?

0:48:57.480 --> 0:48:58.600
<v Speaker 3>Though? Does it?

0:48:58.719 --> 0:48:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Does it?

0:48:59.000 --> 0:49:01.279
<v Speaker 3>Does having this belief, you know, serve you?

0:49:03.120 --> 0:49:06.760
<v Speaker 5>I'm not believing in shit, I'm doing these stupid prayers.

0:49:06.840 --> 0:49:09.280
<v Speaker 5>I mean, they're not stupid. It's a real powerful prayer.

0:49:09.640 --> 0:49:12.520
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Okay, so it's so it's serving you pray this.

0:49:12.960 --> 0:49:15.879
<v Speaker 4>You're having these prayers and having these beliefs and having

0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:20.200
<v Speaker 4>the spiritual side of yourself is providing you with value.

0:49:20.400 --> 0:49:23.240
<v Speaker 3>You would say, Or.

0:49:23.200 --> 0:49:27.759
<v Speaker 5>It's just circumstance, or it's coincidence, or just the fact

0:49:27.800 --> 0:49:30.480
<v Speaker 5>that I'm not getting drunk all the time. Things are

0:49:30.520 --> 0:49:33.360
<v Speaker 5>getting better, you know what is sure.

0:49:33.360 --> 0:49:35.120
<v Speaker 4>But I'm talking about but but but what do you mean?

0:49:35.160 --> 0:49:36.800
<v Speaker 4>What do you mean by its circumstance or it's or

0:49:36.840 --> 0:49:39.799
<v Speaker 4>it's coit you think it's saying it's it's coincidental that

0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:41.680
<v Speaker 4>your life is improving at the same time you're doing

0:49:41.719 --> 0:49:43.960
<v Speaker 4>these prayers. But I'm talking about the act, the act

0:49:43.960 --> 0:49:47.080
<v Speaker 4>of doing these prayers themselves, you know, forgetting about how

0:49:47.120 --> 0:49:49.200
<v Speaker 4>they've influenced your life around you. I'm talking about the

0:49:49.280 --> 0:49:52.719
<v Speaker 4>actual when you sit down to go pray, or stand up,

0:49:52.800 --> 0:49:54.719
<v Speaker 4>or go to the bathroom or do whatever you do.

0:49:55.200 --> 0:49:57.919
<v Speaker 4>How do you actually feel in that moment when you're

0:49:58.000 --> 0:50:01.400
<v Speaker 4>doing it. Do you feel like helping.

0:50:01.160 --> 0:50:05.200
<v Speaker 5>You No, it's more just like knocking off something off

0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:05.920
<v Speaker 5>my checklist.

0:50:06.040 --> 0:50:10.120
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So it feels like an obligation, it feels.

0:50:09.840 --> 0:50:10.799
<v Speaker 2>Like a requirement.

0:50:11.440 --> 0:50:15.400
<v Speaker 5>Okay, you know that's that's I mean, because the people

0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:18.600
<v Speaker 5>that are telling me what to do, you know, I

0:50:19.000 --> 0:50:22.120
<v Speaker 5>definitely look up to them and I can really relate

0:50:22.200 --> 0:50:25.280
<v Speaker 5>to what they've said. So I am putting my trust

0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:27.120
<v Speaker 5>in what they've done.

0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:29.440
<v Speaker 4>So there's people that you look up to that have

0:50:29.560 --> 0:50:33.000
<v Speaker 4>told you to do to pray, and because you look

0:50:33.080 --> 0:50:34.560
<v Speaker 4>up to those people, you'll tell them what to do,

0:50:34.600 --> 0:50:37.400
<v Speaker 4>even if the actual act itself is not something that

0:50:37.440 --> 0:50:38.200
<v Speaker 4>you're crazy about.

0:50:40.000 --> 0:50:43.640
<v Speaker 5>It's it's not not that I'm not crazy about it.

0:50:43.640 --> 0:50:47.319
<v Speaker 5>It's nothing that it's too difficult. It's just that is

0:50:47.840 --> 0:50:51.560
<v Speaker 5>do I need to include that to get you know,

0:50:51.640 --> 0:50:53.520
<v Speaker 5>to have the results that I'm.

0:50:53.360 --> 0:50:58.520
<v Speaker 4>Having it that you know, I was asking you if

0:50:58.560 --> 0:50:59.640
<v Speaker 4>it provides any value?

0:50:59.719 --> 0:50:59.919
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:03.200
<v Speaker 4>So now I'll ask is it detrimental to you in

0:51:03.239 --> 0:51:06.600
<v Speaker 4>any way, shape or form to do these prayers?

0:51:09.200 --> 0:51:09.840
<v Speaker 3>Does it? Does it?

0:51:09.960 --> 0:51:10.080
<v Speaker 5>Do it?

0:51:10.160 --> 0:51:12.080
<v Speaker 3>Does it do anything negative? You think?

0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:21.799
<v Speaker 5>I think, believing in something that that's not real, I

0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:25.000
<v Speaker 5>don't want to. I mean, I guess what's the worst

0:51:25.000 --> 0:51:27.640
<v Speaker 5>that could happen? I don't know. I mean religion starts wars.

0:51:27.680 --> 0:51:29.799
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to be a part of something that

0:51:30.400 --> 0:51:34.560
<v Speaker 5>is it's going to cause harm either. I'd like to know,

0:51:36.320 --> 0:51:38.520
<v Speaker 5>and I don't think I can. I mean, if God's real,

0:51:38.560 --> 0:51:40.600
<v Speaker 5>he's not gonna let me look at this like a

0:51:40.640 --> 0:51:44.480
<v Speaker 5>scientist and not praise some days and try to figure

0:51:44.520 --> 0:51:45.360
<v Speaker 5>out this equation.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:51:46.080 --> 0:51:48.840
<v Speaker 5>Maybe he is. I feel like I'm a scientist.

0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:51.200
<v Speaker 4>I just I feel like this is now leaning into

0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:56.160
<v Speaker 4>a territory of superstition. It's like, uh, you know what

0:51:56.239 --> 0:52:00.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying right now, Like, you know, don't you You

0:52:01.040 --> 0:52:05.320
<v Speaker 4>pray in the same way that someone avoids walking underneath

0:52:05.320 --> 0:52:08.520
<v Speaker 4>the ladders just because you know they they think it

0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:10.799
<v Speaker 4>might fuck up whatever their equilibrium is.

0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:18.120
<v Speaker 5>I see what you're saying. That that makes sense. I

0:52:18.200 --> 0:52:24.360
<v Speaker 5>just want to know if God exists, because if he does,

0:52:24.520 --> 0:52:27.399
<v Speaker 5>man like, I want to be on in you know.

0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:29.560
<v Speaker 3>But I don't think. But I don't.

0:52:29.600 --> 0:52:31.520
<v Speaker 4>I don't I think for you. I don't think that

0:52:31.560 --> 0:52:32.879
<v Speaker 4>you're seeking religion in in.

0:52:33.160 --> 0:52:34.799
<v Speaker 3>Uh, I don't.

0:52:34.800 --> 0:52:39.400
<v Speaker 4>I don't think that the benefit to you is the knowledge.

0:52:39.560 --> 0:52:43.680
<v Speaker 4>You know, the benefit is not I don't think in

0:52:43.680 --> 0:52:46.799
<v Speaker 4>in the knowledge or in or in being on the

0:52:46.840 --> 0:52:51.840
<v Speaker 4>winning team, right. The benefit is in the practice, I think,

0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:55.400
<v Speaker 4>And if you are not finding the benefit in the practice,

0:52:56.760 --> 0:52:59.680
<v Speaker 4>then it doesn't serve you that that's that's what That's

0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:01.879
<v Speaker 4>sort of how I feel about religion in general. You're

0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:03.960
<v Speaker 4>not aiming to be on the winning team. That's not

0:53:04.080 --> 0:53:08.160
<v Speaker 4>a good reason to be religious, I think. But I

0:53:08.160 --> 0:53:13.200
<v Speaker 4>do believe that if the practice of faith is beneficial

0:53:13.200 --> 0:53:16.919
<v Speaker 4>to your life, then that's good. But again, you don't

0:53:16.920 --> 0:53:20.080
<v Speaker 4>want to do it just because just superstitious, superstitiously because

0:53:20.120 --> 0:53:23.160
<v Speaker 4>thinking like, oh, if I'm wrong, then I'm on the

0:53:23.280 --> 0:53:26.440
<v Speaker 4>losing team and I'm being damned in hell, you know

0:53:26.480 --> 0:53:28.400
<v Speaker 4>what I mean. You don't want to come at it

0:53:28.440 --> 0:53:30.960
<v Speaker 4>for a place of fear, from a place of I

0:53:31.040 --> 0:53:33.759
<v Speaker 4>want to be all in just in case. You want

0:53:33.800 --> 0:53:35.600
<v Speaker 4>to come at it for a place of I feel

0:53:35.600 --> 0:53:37.399
<v Speaker 4>good when I pray, I feel good being a.

0:53:37.360 --> 0:53:41.160
<v Speaker 3>Part of this, I feel good practicing this.

0:53:44.960 --> 0:53:50.239
<v Speaker 5>I see what you're saying. Yeah, I mean, it's just

0:53:51.200 --> 0:53:53.600
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to I don't want to go back

0:53:53.600 --> 0:53:56.080
<v Speaker 5>to hell because that's where I felt like I was,

0:53:56.600 --> 0:53:59.719
<v Speaker 5>and you know, and if I can become happy, I

0:53:59.760 --> 0:54:03.279
<v Speaker 5>can help some people along the way, you know.

0:54:05.760 --> 0:54:07.600
<v Speaker 3>But I don't think you.

0:54:09.320 --> 0:54:13.040
<v Speaker 4>That's what That's the thing is, I think that these

0:54:13.120 --> 0:54:19.320
<v Speaker 4>these all right, so you as yourself are going to

0:54:19.360 --> 0:54:21.880
<v Speaker 4>be the one to go out into the world and

0:54:22.000 --> 0:54:24.719
<v Speaker 4>help people and do these things that you want to do.

0:54:25.480 --> 0:54:28.160
<v Speaker 4>And the religion can be a tool to sort of

0:54:29.120 --> 0:54:35.280
<v Speaker 4>fill your vessel, right only if it is beneficial to

0:54:35.280 --> 0:54:37.600
<v Speaker 4>to you. But you're at the end of the day,

0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:39.359
<v Speaker 4>you are the one that's going to go out and

0:54:39.360 --> 0:54:42.840
<v Speaker 4>and you know, be be, be helpful to other people,

0:54:42.960 --> 0:54:45.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, and you don't you don't need anything to

0:54:45.480 --> 0:54:45.839
<v Speaker 4>do that.

0:54:45.960 --> 0:54:46.720
<v Speaker 3>You have yourself.

0:54:46.719 --> 0:54:50.640
<v Speaker 4>You have it, you have currently in your possession everything

0:54:50.680 --> 0:54:53.880
<v Speaker 4>that you need to do what you want to do.

0:54:53.960 --> 0:54:55.360
<v Speaker 4>If what you want to do is, you know, go

0:54:55.480 --> 0:54:57.920
<v Speaker 4>out and and help people. I don't think that you

0:54:58.000 --> 0:54:59.560
<v Speaker 4>need anything else.

0:55:00.560 --> 0:55:01.399
<v Speaker 3>You know, you don't.

0:55:01.440 --> 0:55:03.280
<v Speaker 4>You don't need to worry like, oh, if I'm wrong

0:55:03.320 --> 0:55:06.560
<v Speaker 4>about believing in God, I won't be able to help people.

0:55:06.840 --> 0:55:09.960
<v Speaker 4>You know, I think that's far fetched, you know, but

0:55:10.360 --> 0:55:12.680
<v Speaker 4>I hope, I hope I'm understanding you correctly.

0:55:14.000 --> 0:55:14.200
<v Speaker 8>You know.

0:55:14.440 --> 0:55:17.640
<v Speaker 5>It's the weird thing about my story is is that

0:55:17.800 --> 0:55:21.360
<v Speaker 5>I've always wanted to help people, you know, I've always

0:55:21.440 --> 0:55:26.040
<v Speaker 5>I've always wanted to not you know, be depressed and

0:55:26.239 --> 0:55:29.000
<v Speaker 5>over eat and and and all these things where I

0:55:29.000 --> 0:55:31.719
<v Speaker 5>can't function. You know, I can hold down a job,

0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:34.640
<v Speaker 5>but I literally can't function. And I proved time and

0:55:34.680 --> 0:55:38.359
<v Speaker 5>time again that I'm literally powerless over this ship. So

0:55:38.560 --> 0:55:42.279
<v Speaker 5>so me, I'm learning that me on my own, I

0:55:42.320 --> 0:55:46.040
<v Speaker 5>can't do this ship. So it's like, you know, you

0:55:46.120 --> 0:55:47.840
<v Speaker 5>just make you know, some people can just make a

0:55:47.880 --> 0:55:50.880
<v Speaker 5>decision and get up in the morning and go do

0:55:51.000 --> 0:55:53.520
<v Speaker 5>what they have to do. But I'm just like, I

0:55:53.560 --> 0:55:54.760
<v Speaker 5>got nothing to offer.

0:55:55.000 --> 0:55:57.160
<v Speaker 3>I got there's something, there's there's nothing wrong, there's nothing

0:55:57.160 --> 0:55:58.040
<v Speaker 3>wrong with needing help.

0:55:58.360 --> 0:56:00.520
<v Speaker 4>And I get that the idea of it is that

0:56:00.560 --> 0:56:03.000
<v Speaker 4>you you know, submit yourself to a higher power, but

0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:05.680
<v Speaker 4>your high But I also I am willing to believe

0:56:05.680 --> 0:56:08.880
<v Speaker 4>that that higher power does not necessarily have to be

0:56:09.560 --> 0:56:12.080
<v Speaker 4>God in the traditional way that you think about it,

0:56:12.120 --> 0:56:15.080
<v Speaker 4>like giving yourself up to a higher power. I I

0:56:15.760 --> 0:56:18.520
<v Speaker 4>think that could just mean like checking yourself into rehab,

0:56:18.640 --> 0:56:22.719
<v Speaker 4>like you know, going out to see counseling, you know,

0:56:23.239 --> 0:56:25.719
<v Speaker 4>seek seeking help. I don't believe in in a higher

0:56:25.800 --> 0:56:30.320
<v Speaker 4>power specifically defined as believing in God.

0:56:32.280 --> 0:56:37.080
<v Speaker 5>I think that's why I like because it definitely defined

0:56:37.400 --> 0:56:41.800
<v Speaker 5>something greater than yourself. Doesn't have to be any specific god,

0:56:41.920 --> 0:56:45.520
<v Speaker 5>religion or anything. But it's just, you know, it's just

0:56:45.600 --> 0:56:49.080
<v Speaker 5>kind of saying that you're not God. You're not responsible

0:56:49.160 --> 0:56:52.520
<v Speaker 5>for the moon and the stars, are you? Because if

0:56:52.560 --> 0:56:55.640
<v Speaker 5>you think that, and I've thought that, you know, I thought,

0:56:56.080 --> 0:56:58.600
<v Speaker 5>that gets so freaking manic. I have I have. I

0:56:58.640 --> 0:57:02.279
<v Speaker 5>have thought Iowa was God, I was Jesus. You know,

0:57:03.080 --> 0:57:06.560
<v Speaker 5>the mania of it all, and it's a scary place

0:57:06.640 --> 0:57:07.040
<v Speaker 5>to be in.

0:57:10.360 --> 0:57:14.680
<v Speaker 4>Well, man, have you gotten help? Have you gotten you know,

0:57:14.760 --> 0:57:17.800
<v Speaker 4>gone to a counselor gone to a real therapist that's

0:57:18.080 --> 0:57:21.000
<v Speaker 4>not a gecko person?

0:57:23.880 --> 0:57:26.360
<v Speaker 5>Before that I have done. I have done lots of

0:57:26.440 --> 0:57:33.040
<v Speaker 5>counseling before. I haven't had much help in the therapy

0:57:33.200 --> 0:57:36.160
<v Speaker 5>ask that. But like I said, this, this one trick

0:57:36.200 --> 0:57:39.479
<v Speaker 5>of the book, this this getting on my knees thing,

0:57:39.840 --> 0:57:42.840
<v Speaker 5>seems to be the thing that really works for me.

0:57:43.560 --> 0:57:45.640
<v Speaker 4>And again, like I said, I feel, like I said,

0:57:45.680 --> 0:57:47.720
<v Speaker 4>if it's working for you, it's working for you, you know,

0:57:48.600 --> 0:57:50.760
<v Speaker 4>and if the act of doing it is working for you,

0:57:50.840 --> 0:57:52.960
<v Speaker 4>that's it. You don't have to I think that's it, right.

0:57:52.960 --> 0:57:54.320
<v Speaker 4>I don't think you have to worry about whether or

0:57:54.320 --> 0:57:55.720
<v Speaker 4>not it's real because the act of doing it is

0:57:55.760 --> 0:57:56.240
<v Speaker 4>working for you.

0:57:57.160 --> 0:57:59.960
<v Speaker 5>Oh but my human nature wants to overthink it though,

0:58:00.160 --> 0:58:02.240
<v Speaker 5>and it's always going to I always got to question

0:58:02.360 --> 0:58:03.160
<v Speaker 5>these things. Man.

0:58:03.880 --> 0:58:06.200
<v Speaker 4>Sure, there's nothing wrong with that, But I that that's

0:58:06.280 --> 0:58:08.400
<v Speaker 4>kind of what I would say. I think, you know,

0:58:09.160 --> 0:58:11.680
<v Speaker 4>the act of doing it is working for you, and

0:58:11.960 --> 0:58:12.840
<v Speaker 4>you know you can.

0:58:13.720 --> 0:58:15.160
<v Speaker 3>I think you can. I think you can.

0:58:15.480 --> 0:58:22.360
<v Speaker 4>Question it in a more philosophical sense on top of that,

0:58:23.040 --> 0:58:26.320
<v Speaker 4>But I wouldn't fuck it. But I wouldn't like replace

0:58:28.280 --> 0:58:31.600
<v Speaker 4>the fact that it's working for you with wondering if

0:58:31.600 --> 0:58:34.480
<v Speaker 4>it's real. I have to make sense because I I

0:58:34.800 --> 0:58:37.240
<v Speaker 4>I think you should take comfort in the fact that

0:58:37.280 --> 0:58:39.440
<v Speaker 4>it's working for you. It's like, Okay, this is working

0:58:39.480 --> 0:58:42.439
<v Speaker 4>for me, But I also have my own healthy doubts

0:58:42.480 --> 0:58:43.960
<v Speaker 4>about whether or not, you know, God.

0:58:43.760 --> 0:58:53.040
<v Speaker 5>Exists, right, Yeah, it's still a work in progress.

0:58:52.360 --> 0:58:52.560
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:58:53.760 --> 0:58:57.120
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And it's a day at a time, that's all.

0:58:57.160 --> 0:59:01.000
<v Speaker 5>I know. I can't explain it. It is you can't

0:59:01.000 --> 0:59:04.600
<v Speaker 5>explain it until you actually see the difference. And it's

0:59:04.640 --> 0:59:08.000
<v Speaker 5>and I just I just don't know how to explain it,

0:59:08.120 --> 0:59:08.360
<v Speaker 5>you know.

0:59:08.520 --> 0:59:14.000
<v Speaker 3>I Yeah, what would you say? Your name was man.

0:59:15.280 --> 0:59:18.920
<v Speaker 4>Uh, Bryant, well listen, Brian, Uh you know, thank you

0:59:18.960 --> 0:59:21.080
<v Speaker 4>for calling in man, and uh you know.

0:59:21.080 --> 0:59:25.360
<v Speaker 3>Best of luck to you all right. Yeah, uh, don't

0:59:25.440 --> 0:59:26.400
<v Speaker 3>drive yourself crazy.

0:59:28.080 --> 0:59:30.919
<v Speaker 5>Yeah that's a stretch, but I'm sorry.

0:59:32.640 --> 0:59:33.960
<v Speaker 3>You take care of man. You have a good rest

0:59:33.960 --> 0:59:34.320
<v Speaker 3>of the night.

0:59:35.240 --> 0:59:35.439
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:59:35.600 --> 0:59:43.040
<v Speaker 3>Look he'll be too, baby boy, love be too. What

0:59:43.240 --> 0:59:45.200
<v Speaker 3>is love all from?

0:59:46.280 --> 0:59:48.240
<v Speaker 7>B B?

0:59:51.520 --> 0:59:52.160
<v Speaker 8>Holy fuck?

0:59:52.520 --> 0:59:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I know it's crazy. It's crazy, dude.

0:59:56.800 --> 0:59:58.680
<v Speaker 3>What's everything?

0:59:59.120 --> 1:00:01.600
<v Speaker 8>I'm gonna I'm gonna discorded call with my friends right now.

1:00:01.600 --> 1:00:02.240
<v Speaker 8>Hold on the easy.

1:00:03.680 --> 1:00:06.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh you want to go a call with your friends? Yeah?

1:00:07.560 --> 1:00:10.440
<v Speaker 8>And they got they got banned from the chat. I'm

1:00:10.440 --> 1:00:11.120
<v Speaker 8>pretty sure.

1:00:11.360 --> 1:00:12.920
<v Speaker 3>What the what the fuck did they do? Why did

1:00:12.920 --> 1:00:13.919
<v Speaker 3>they get banned from the chat?

1:00:16.120 --> 1:00:21.000
<v Speaker 8>I think they said, uh, come too many times.

1:00:21.520 --> 1:00:22.160
<v Speaker 3>They got banned.

1:00:22.200 --> 1:00:26.960
<v Speaker 8>They got timed out, they got timed out, and I

1:00:27.000 --> 1:00:30.200
<v Speaker 8>think I think Ronan got timed out and DomU got banned,

1:00:31.880 --> 1:00:40.240
<v Speaker 8>so they I don't know too many to count, I guess,

1:00:43.120 --> 1:00:45.960
<v Speaker 8>But you know what, it was fine. We were laughing,

1:00:45.960 --> 1:00:46.959
<v Speaker 8>we were having a good time.

1:00:48.520 --> 1:00:51.360
<v Speaker 4>You haven't gotten banned from chat yet, have you? No?

1:00:51.480 --> 1:00:52.680
<v Speaker 8>I haven't.

1:00:53.000 --> 1:00:53.600
<v Speaker 9>I'm nice.

1:00:53.760 --> 1:00:56.960
<v Speaker 4>They're naughty, Okay, tell me so I was you know

1:00:57.160 --> 1:00:58.760
<v Speaker 4>I was going to ask you. You say, Ronan is

1:00:58.800 --> 1:00:59.160
<v Speaker 4>your name?

1:01:00.240 --> 1:01:00.400
<v Speaker 2>Right?

1:01:01.960 --> 1:01:07.880
<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

1:01:08.040 --> 1:01:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Hey, geg, what's up?

1:01:10.680 --> 1:01:11.360
<v Speaker 3>Tell me everything?

1:01:15.920 --> 1:01:17.680
<v Speaker 8>Do you think you were nice or naughty?

1:01:17.680 --> 1:01:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Was here?

1:01:21.400 --> 1:01:23.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm not a great judge of character myself, you know. Look,

1:01:23.880 --> 1:01:26.640
<v Speaker 4>I know that I try not to do. I try

1:01:26.640 --> 1:01:30.800
<v Speaker 4>not to make a lot of judgments because uh, only

1:01:30.920 --> 1:01:34.360
<v Speaker 4>only uh only a select few people can judge me.

1:01:35.320 --> 1:01:37.520
<v Speaker 4>And I don't consider myself to be I don't consider

1:01:37.560 --> 1:01:44.320
<v Speaker 4>that to be uh myself to be on that list nice.

1:01:45.200 --> 1:01:47.080
<v Speaker 4>I mean, what does that even mean? What's your definition

1:01:47.160 --> 1:01:48.920
<v Speaker 4>of naughty?

1:01:49.200 --> 1:01:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm?

1:01:51.600 --> 1:01:56.880
<v Speaker 8>Maybe you know what I I really don't have a

1:01:56.920 --> 1:02:00.240
<v Speaker 8>good answer to that. And right now I feel so

1:02:00.320 --> 1:02:04.880
<v Speaker 8>hypocritical because most of the people who would call in

1:02:05.360 --> 1:02:07.680
<v Speaker 8>and not also not know the answer. I'd be bitching

1:02:07.720 --> 1:02:10.280
<v Speaker 8>at them right now. I'd be on the discord call

1:02:10.280 --> 1:02:12.680
<v Speaker 8>with my friends and say you should kick these people.

1:02:13.520 --> 1:02:16.040
<v Speaker 3>M all right, So tell me about this discord call

1:02:16.120 --> 1:02:19.120
<v Speaker 3>with your friends? And I want, I want what is

1:02:19.160 --> 1:02:21.840
<v Speaker 3>this your first night watching the stream?

1:02:22.240 --> 1:02:22.439
<v Speaker 6>Oh?

1:02:22.480 --> 1:02:26.040
<v Speaker 8>No, I I try to call in every single like

1:02:26.080 --> 1:02:27.000
<v Speaker 8>every every other.

1:02:26.960 --> 1:02:28.920
<v Speaker 3>Night, I'm and you've never gotten in before.

1:02:29.840 --> 1:02:31.920
<v Speaker 8>No, this is the first time, and you know what,

1:02:32.400 --> 1:02:35.160
<v Speaker 8>every time, I always like prepare with like some funny

1:02:35.200 --> 1:02:38.560
<v Speaker 8>story or something. I always prepare like for you to

1:02:38.600 --> 1:02:40.960
<v Speaker 8>pick up. But this is the one time I didn't.

1:02:41.160 --> 1:02:43.080
<v Speaker 3>Yep, you didn't prepare. Now you don't. You don't got

1:02:43.080 --> 1:02:44.600
<v Speaker 3>shipped you?

1:02:44.640 --> 1:02:46.640
<v Speaker 8>Nope, I didn't.

1:02:47.560 --> 1:02:49.600
<v Speaker 3>I'll look. I normally i'd stick to a thing. But

1:02:49.960 --> 1:02:51.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry. Are we going to say?

1:02:51.840 --> 1:02:54.960
<v Speaker 8>No, I don't have any naughty stories. That's the problems.

1:02:55.400 --> 1:02:59.600
<v Speaker 8>I mean, Like last night, I uh actually stepped on

1:02:59.640 --> 1:03:02.600
<v Speaker 8>a great like a like a recently buried grave.

1:03:04.600 --> 1:03:07.600
<v Speaker 3>What were you doing hanging out by a recently buried grave?

1:03:08.600 --> 1:03:10.919
<v Speaker 8>Me and my friends went to a cemetery last night.

1:03:12.080 --> 1:03:13.560
<v Speaker 3>You and your friends are fucking weird.

1:03:13.600 --> 1:03:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Dude.

1:03:13.800 --> 1:03:15.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna lie. I know I said it on

1:03:15.360 --> 1:03:16.040
<v Speaker 3>a judge, but.

1:03:17.520 --> 1:03:20.800
<v Speaker 8>No, honestly, I think I think that just made my

1:03:20.840 --> 1:03:23.640
<v Speaker 8>twenty twenty Like that was that was it? That was

1:03:23.680 --> 1:03:24.280
<v Speaker 8>my highlights.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm just kidding. I don't know you and your friends.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope that they tell tell you tell your friends

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<v Speaker 4>to send it on banned request and if I'm feeling gracious,

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<v Speaker 4>ill unbanned depends. I have a number. I have a

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<v Speaker 4>number in my head of acceptable amount of time suspam

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<v Speaker 4>come in the chat and if they're under that, well

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<v Speaker 4>I'll let them back.

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<v Speaker 8>In, Okay, I will.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm curious though. I'm curious though, I want to know

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<v Speaker 4>what you say your name was? I forgot your name?

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<v Speaker 4>B B what so you and so you said that?

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<v Speaker 4>If you said that, A lot of times people get

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<v Speaker 4>in here and you bitch at them in the discord.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, because do you and your.

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<v Speaker 3>Friends in the discord, like, do you like listen to

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<v Speaker 3>the calls and like bitch about the callers?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah? Yeah, because now I they picked me too much,

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<v Speaker 8>I say, picked me?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, yeah, I'll get your band from check.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't like anybody that gets in the call that

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<v Speaker 8>isn't me. That's that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, you don't like any You don't like anyone that

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<v Speaker 3>gets in except for you.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, So then I find something to complain about, and

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<v Speaker 8>then we just have a conversation about why we don't

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<v Speaker 8>like the caller.

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<v Speaker 3>Who, uh, who have you been complaining about recently?

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<v Speaker 8>Like everybody that's joined the call so far in the

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<v Speaker 8>stream of the hick guy and then the last guy.

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<v Speaker 8>I almost fell asleep. I was so fucking bored. I

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<v Speaker 8>needed my friend running to remind me that you were

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<v Speaker 8>about to hang out so then I could spad the

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<v Speaker 8>stand the line.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't understand. But I don't understand this. How can you?

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<v Speaker 3>How often do you watch the String?

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<v Speaker 8>Like every single day? I watch when I like when

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<v Speaker 8>I do my homework, I listen to the stream, and

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<v Speaker 8>then I listen to the podcast like every time they

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<v Speaker 8>come out.

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<v Speaker 3>But yet you hate all the callers pretty much?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, because I'm just so jealous, I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>Well then, okay, so how do you feel? How do

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<v Speaker 3>you feel now? Now?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you now? This is why I'm curious now having

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<v Speaker 4>now been on the string, now that you have called

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<v Speaker 4>in and you are you're here, you are now you

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<v Speaker 4>now have an opportunity for greater empathy, right because you

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<v Speaker 4>know now what it is like to be on the string.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you're right, I do.

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<v Speaker 8>But like I said, this is the first time I

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<v Speaker 8>haven't prepared, like I always have some stupid story for

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<v Speaker 8>whatever your question is for the night, except for this.

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<v Speaker 8>But yeah, I do know. I'm still gonna judge. I'm

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<v Speaker 8>not going to change because I want redemption now because

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<v Speaker 8>I have to wait like probably months even years for

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<v Speaker 8>me to like have something good to talk about and

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<v Speaker 8>then also get accepted back into the stream.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you feel about the idea? In fact, how

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<v Speaker 4>do you feel about the I mean, let's admit the

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<v Speaker 4>certainty that people listening to your call right now are

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<v Speaker 4>judging you.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh yeah, they totally are. They're probably calling me a

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<v Speaker 8>pick me girl, which you know what I am, but

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<v Speaker 8>only when it comes to therapy Gecko, probably complaining about

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<v Speaker 8>how much I'm acting like a spaz right now. They're

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<v Speaker 8>could be countless things, But you know what, do I care? No? Okay,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm I'm looking forward to my friends bullying me tonight

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<v Speaker 8>about how much I messed up the call or something.

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<v Speaker 8>They're going to find something to make fun of me about.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you feel like you feel like you messed up

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<v Speaker 3>the call?

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<v Speaker 8>If I'm not into the podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Then yeah, that's your barometers whether or not you make

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<v Speaker 4>you make it into the podcast.

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<v Speaker 8>Probably because this is like the highlight of my twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 8>I just want to I just want to be I

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<v Speaker 8>feel like nobody. It's rare that people call in and

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<v Speaker 8>are funny, and that's what I look for. So I

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<v Speaker 8>just I'm sad, but I can't fulfill the thing that

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<v Speaker 8>I'm looking for.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you might you might have been unintentionally funny.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that this situation is so I think that

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<v Speaker 4>this topic is funny.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, I'm really impressed with myself that I've even

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<v Speaker 8>made it this far.

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<v Speaker 4>You're viewing this, I think you're viewing this too much

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<v Speaker 4>as a game that in which there are winners and losers.

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<v Speaker 8>Hmm yeah maybe. But but but like at the same time,

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<v Speaker 8>like I just don't want to be super hypocritical, Like

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<v Speaker 8>I don't want to be like the people I'm making

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<v Speaker 8>fun of.

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<v Speaker 4>Well you've okay, well then then well yeah, then you've

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<v Speaker 4>you've you've failed at that. But I'm still confused at

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<v Speaker 4>how you're able to I'm still confused with the appeal.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it like, are you like hate listening to the

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<v Speaker 4>stream like you enjoy.

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<v Speaker 3>Hating it?

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<v Speaker 8>No?

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, no no.

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<v Speaker 8>So here's the thing, is like I enjoy listening to

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<v Speaker 8>you talk and like what you have to say, And

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<v Speaker 8>it's kind of funny to see your reactions with people sometimes,

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<v Speaker 8>like when I when I'm on the phone with Domiu

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<v Speaker 8>and Ronan, I'll be like, oh my god, look at him,

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<v Speaker 8>he's ready to hang up everybody get their phones ready,

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<v Speaker 8>or we'll see you like move into a position and

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<v Speaker 8>be like, I've never seen anyone more angry in my life.

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<v Speaker 8>And you may not actually be that way, but that's

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<v Speaker 8>just the way I'm perceiving you in the moment, and

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<v Speaker 8>we just like make a conversation out of it. So

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<v Speaker 8>it's super fun to like just get to talk about

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<v Speaker 8>what's happening in the stream with my friends, and then

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<v Speaker 8>I listen to the stream and it makes me so productive.

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<v Speaker 8>So when I'm not defly judging people, I'm blasting out

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<v Speaker 8>like homework while listening to the stream.

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<v Speaker 4>Is there a now when the calls are boring, does

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<v Speaker 4>it make you more productive because you're paying less attention

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<v Speaker 4>to the podcast and more attention to your work.

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<v Speaker 8>No, I don't really think it has an effect on it.

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<v Speaker 4>But you just said it makes you super You said

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<v Speaker 4>the type of Paul doesn't have an effect on your productivity. Yeah, now,

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<v Speaker 4>Daimu and Roman you said other names. Yeah, have I

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<v Speaker 4>spoken to them before?

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<v Speaker 7>No, you haven't.

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<v Speaker 8>I introduced you to them, and they also just told

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<v Speaker 8>me that the chat is blaming me, So you know

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<v Speaker 8>what I'm feeling pretty well?

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<v Speaker 4>Of course I haven't looked at the chat. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>of course there, but you know, look, but it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 4>The chat is not God, no one is. No one

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<v Speaker 4>gets to decide. I'm thinking about taking away the good

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<v Speaker 4>call emote because I don't think anyone gets to decide

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<v Speaker 4>what a good call is or what a bad call is.

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<v Speaker 4>There's just calls, dude. There's just people talking on the phone.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just a stream of a gecko man talking to

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<v Speaker 4>people on the phone. There is no It is not

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<v Speaker 4>a place for qualitative judgments of any kind, good or bad.

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<v Speaker 8>Can I ask you a questions? Of course, So I

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<v Speaker 8>ask this question every time I meet someone, and it

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<v Speaker 8>kind of like helps me form an opinion on them.

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<v Speaker 8>But it's gonna seem very juvenile.

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<v Speaker 4>But Scooby or Shaggy, I I'll answer this, But are

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<v Speaker 4>you prepared to answer a follow up question?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah? Wait, wait, wait, but only if I like, you

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<v Speaker 8>know what, Yeah, just go with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Shit, I'm gonna go with Shaggy.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, thank god?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, all.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now, all right, this is my follow up question.

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<v Speaker 4>Why what information does this give you about a person

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<v Speaker 4>in which you feel qualified to then make form and

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<v Speaker 4>opinion about them?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, it started out like I used to ask this

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<v Speaker 8>question when I would like meet a guy, like in

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<v Speaker 8>the summer, if I would like meet a guy, I'd

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<v Speaker 8>ask for their snap and I'd be like, when I

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<v Speaker 8>got it, I'd say Scooby or Shaggy, And if they

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<v Speaker 8>said Scooby, I would just unadd them. That's how I

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<v Speaker 8>filtered out who I liked and who I didn't. If

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<v Speaker 8>they said Shaggy, I would give them my time. And

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<v Speaker 8>then I started looking into it myself and I and

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<v Speaker 8>I thought, well, my ideal type of guy is like Shaggy, right,

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<v Speaker 8>best type of guy that there is, and you know

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<v Speaker 8>it's Scooby. He just he just like sits back and

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<v Speaker 8>is like, you know, he's just he's unnecessary.

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<v Speaker 5>He just is.

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<v Speaker 3>How is your dating Saggy is God?

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<v Speaker 8>You said there's no God. No, that's that's not possible.

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<v Speaker 8>He said something about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I say all kinds of things. How how is your

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<v Speaker 3>dating life?

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<v Speaker 7>How do you think ship?

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<v Speaker 3>It is?

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<v Speaker 7>Pretty well?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, but you know what, I have high standards, and

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<v Speaker 8>I don't care.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't have high stand you have you have standards

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<v Speaker 4>that you know there's those are not those standards don't

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<v Speaker 4>make it any sense?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I don't really like talking to people like, like,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not really like good at like cause I don't know,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not good at talking to multiple people at once,

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<v Speaker 8>like I can if I'm like if I have like

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<v Speaker 8>an alternate, No, okay, I can't. I can't talk to

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<v Speaker 8>somebody who I'm interested in and then like be like,

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<v Speaker 8>then go to talk to somebody else, Like I can

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<v Speaker 8>only talk to one person at a time if I

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<v Speaker 8>have the intent on like dating them or something, I

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<v Speaker 8>can't do more than one person. So then if they

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<v Speaker 8>say Scooby, then I can get rid of them and

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<v Speaker 8>find like it just makes that easier.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess this, This is your litmus test?

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<v Speaker 8>My?

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<v Speaker 3>What is your litmus test?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know?

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<v Speaker 4>A litmus test is? Uh uh, all right, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>have to google because I don't know how to explain it.

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<v Speaker 4>But your litmus tests is scaggy set shaggy or Scooby?

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<v Speaker 7>Got it?

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<v Speaker 4>I think?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have you ever?

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<v Speaker 4>Have you been to a real therapist before? No, just

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<v Speaker 4>go to a real therapist. See what they have to

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<v Speaker 4>say about this. Because I don't know how much of

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<v Speaker 4>you are. I don't know, if you're meming right now,

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<v Speaker 4>how much of you is meming or how much of

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<v Speaker 4>you know this is who you actually are? But I

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<v Speaker 4>I think I think you should reevaluate parts of this

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<v Speaker 4>because that does How do you feel about this? How

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<v Speaker 4>do you feel about your dating situation? I mean, I

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<v Speaker 4>just probably larger than that.

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<v Speaker 8>But well, getting people has never really been a problem

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<v Speaker 8>for me. It's more liking them is. I don't have

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<v Speaker 8>a problem with my dating life.

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<v Speaker 2>But may.

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<v Speaker 8>No, I mean no, I just don't. I just I

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<v Speaker 8>just have been pretty It's been pretty uneventful.

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<v Speaker 4>I think what you well, what you need is someone

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<v Speaker 4>who's a bigger asshole than you are. You need child, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you need to find someone who is a bigger.

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<v Speaker 3>Douche than you.

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<v Speaker 8>That might be hard, though, I don't know if there is.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm pretty bitchy.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know where does one go to find other

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<v Speaker 4>people who are who are who are also kind of bitchy?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think that would witch here? Bitchy people? You

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<v Speaker 4>you you need one of two people. I think you're

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<v Speaker 4>only it's like a work for you with one of

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<v Speaker 4>two kinds of people, either someone who's a way worse

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<v Speaker 4>than you or like a VI or or the complete opposite,

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<v Speaker 4>just a very.

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<v Speaker 3>Very meek, you know, weaker man, But you won't. You

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't like that.

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<v Speaker 8>I would, I would, I think I would.

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<v Speaker 3>But just someone who, like you know, is going to

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<v Speaker 3>take your ship.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, here's here's the thing is. I think I do

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<v Speaker 8>know people who are more of a douchebag than I am.

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<v Speaker 8>But they're all like dragets, like I hate them, Like

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<v Speaker 8>they're like.

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<v Speaker 9>They're all like the same type of parlem Like like

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<v Speaker 9>some guy who like probably played basketball or football in

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<v Speaker 9>high school, wears only hoodies and sweatpants, listens to Kanye.

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<v Speaker 8>West in the weekend and nothing else, and has the

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<v Speaker 8>most unoriginal personality.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you guys would be perfect for each other.

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<v Speaker 8>No, I want someone to have, like some decent interest.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you? What are your interests?

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<v Speaker 8>I like music a lot.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, yeah, I've played the Yeah, well I played.

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<v Speaker 8>Bass, and then I really like movies and I like

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<v Speaker 8>I love to travel, but I haven't recently because of COVID.

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<v Speaker 8>I go to Europe a lot because I have friends

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<v Speaker 8>and family there.

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<v Speaker 4>I like, I think chas like travel, music, what else.

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<v Speaker 8>Mm hmm, I don't know. Me and my friends are

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<v Speaker 8>really into photography. We have a whole account. Everyone followed

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<v Speaker 8>Twins on Instagram. Please follow Grasshopper Twinks on Instagram. Please.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think that you should find a boring douchey

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<v Speaker 4>man mm hmmmm, and then you two can have a toxic,

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<v Speaker 4>beautiful relationship where you hate each other but you but

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<v Speaker 4>you'll like that because look, some people are wired such

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<v Speaker 4>and such that they enjoy. They just revel in and

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<v Speaker 4>enjoy drama and toxicity. And look, I am over, I

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<v Speaker 4>have no I people are wired in all sorts of

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<v Speaker 4>crazy ways. You know, So who am I to? You know,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, cast judgment upon someone else's uh wiring, But

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you just got to find someone else who

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<v Speaker 4>who you can you can hate and they'll hate you

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<v Speaker 4>and but and you'll enjoy it because you can revel

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<v Speaker 4>in that toxicity and that will feed you.

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<v Speaker 3>You can tell me anything I think.

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<v Speaker 8>I think I agree with you, mm hmm. And mostly

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<v Speaker 8>because last night when I was out with my friends,

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<v Speaker 8>we we all took those BDSM tests in a in

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<v Speaker 8>a home deeper bathroom. I wish I'm chipking right now,

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<v Speaker 8>but and like my results basically match with what you say.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh incorrect?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, except who you are if you're you can do

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<v Speaker 4>one when you're if you don't like your If you

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<v Speaker 4>don't like yourself, you have two paths, and I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>if you don't like yourself, you might have completed one

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<v Speaker 4>of these paths. You can either change yourself or you

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<v Speaker 4>can accept yourself. You don't have any but and you

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<v Speaker 4>do whichever one of those is more appealing to you.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think what's more appealing to you is to

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<v Speaker 4>continue being this, you know, being well, you know whatever

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<v Speaker 4>you are, so you know, look except that you're kind

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<v Speaker 4>of toxic, and you'll be happier.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, okay, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I think you can too.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, B. You know, I appreciate you calling in. I

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<v Speaker 3>hope that I hope that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope that you now I'll have a.

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<v Speaker 4>Greater perspective, uh, for the callers on this program, and I

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<v Speaker 4>hope that it INFORBS, your your judgments upon them moving forward.

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<v Speaker 4>And if it doesn't, then that's fine too.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah it probably won't. But you know what, I'll call

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<v Speaker 8>in and the next time you accept me, I'll let

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<v Speaker 8>you know if I've changed, if I become a better person.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I can't wait for it. I'll talk to you soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Be appreciate you. You have a merry.

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<v Speaker 8>Pronicle, happy get mess, never goes.

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<v Speaker 5>On the line, making your own calls every night, never

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<v Speaker 5>goes aside.

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<v Speaker 1>He's teaching you cud of your life.