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Speaker 1: Welcome third Gang. On today's show, help wanted a number

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Speaker 1: two wide receiver? Sound familiar? Well it should. It was

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Speaker 1: the same want we had a year ago at this time.

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Speaker 1: But first we say it often, there is no downtime

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Speaker 1: in a National Football League. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode

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Speaker 1: five thirty seven and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Cover two with Craig Griolou and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover

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Speaker 1: two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Easy Cardinals dot com,

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Speaker 1: Slash podcasts. Going for Hopkins one hand to catch in

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Speaker 1: a touchdown DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig Griolou and Mike Jarecki.

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Speaker 1: One month from today, as we speak here on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: MJ In one month, the new league year begins, meaning

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Speaker 1: the start of free agency, when players can officially put

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Speaker 1: pen to paper and sign with a new team. We

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Speaker 1: just had the Super Bowl and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: in a blink of an eye, free as he's going

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Speaker 1: to be upon us. Yeah, and that's the beauty of

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Speaker 1: the NFL schedule. I think I've mentioned before. Whoever made

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Speaker 1: that schedule. He needs a race and that's the beauty.

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Speaker 1: And really the only downtime is when you get to

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Speaker 1: the second week in June and then you go to

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Speaker 1: training camp usually late in July, and then it's from

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Speaker 1: July until hopefully February. So yeah, so obviously you can

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Speaker 1: we're gonna hear a lot of agreeded terms. We think

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Speaker 1: he's going to land in the desert stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's going to break out there the saurus and figure

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Speaker 1: out the best way to say without officially saying it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that X players headed to X City to play with

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Speaker 1: the combine and um, we'll be represented with Darren Urban

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Speaker 1: and Danny Serect there and obviously we'll have our team there.

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Speaker 1: Cliffe Kingsbury and Steve Kim will be there. But that's

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Speaker 1: where a lot of these discussions take place. And it's

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Speaker 1: not so much tampering. You're just putting feelers out there.

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Speaker 1: You'll see you know, gms. Sometimes they'll be in their suite,

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Speaker 1: that's where you plant the seed and kind of get

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Speaker 1: an idea what the market is going to be for

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Speaker 1: certain guys, and it's for all thirty two teams. Cardinals

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Speaker 1: have twenty one unrestricted free agents, and again, as we

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Speaker 1: speak here on Wednesday, none of those players have been resigned.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals can certainly sign their own free agents, and I

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Speaker 1: would think, although again a month away, maybe not for

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Speaker 1: some of these players, because it is those that unique

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Speaker 1: experience to see, all right, I want to know my worth.

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Speaker 1: How do other teams feel about me. I got a

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Speaker 1: Because you look at DeAndre Hopkins, his impact on the

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Speaker 1: off the field, teams are going to defend you different

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Speaker 1: and yes, he's been a number one wide receiver, but

427
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Speaker 1: clearly he's a two and there was a lot of

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Speaker 1: miscommunication with him and Kyler Murray. And I don't want

429
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Speaker 1: to pick that scab again in the Packers game, clear

430
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Speaker 1: there was a miscommunication there. There There was times when

431
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Speaker 1: you know, Kyler would try to throw the pack shoulder fade,

432
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Speaker 1: and you know sometimes if he didn't get there, sometimes

433
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Speaker 1: he had to come back to the ball and you

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Speaker 1: could see just based on some of the reaction from

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Speaker 1: the quarterback, he wasn't happy, you know, for miscommunication. So

436
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Speaker 1: but you know, for the most party, as a true pro,

437
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Speaker 1: I enjoyed covering him, but he wouldn't be on my

438
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Speaker 1: radar to bring back. I want to bring that up too,

439
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Speaker 1: because I've been thinking a lot about that. But this

440
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Speaker 1: disconnect between quarterback and wide receiver. I went back because

441
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Speaker 1: I remember the comment and I wanted to make sure

442
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Speaker 1: I had it correct. In June, Kyler Murray quote, I

443
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Speaker 1: expect Aj to have a big year. I know a

444
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Speaker 1: lot of people are sleeping on him. I know a

445
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Speaker 1: lot of things have been said about him maybe not

446
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Speaker 1: being able to do it anymore, and then he added,

447
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 1: I'm glad he's on the team. Okay, that's June. And

448
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 1: again you look at the numbers, Bird Gang. He had

449
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Speaker 1: a great season, but when DeAndre Hopkins wasn't on the field,

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Speaker 1: especially those last four games, Green twelve catches, one hundred

451
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Speaker 1: and ninety four yards, no touchdowns. He was targeted twenty

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Speaker 1: six times. That was two fewer than zach Ertz and

453
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Speaker 1: two more than Christian Kirk during those final four games.

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Speaker 1: Yet the effectiveness of an AJ Green was not there,

455
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Speaker 1: and the Cardinals needed AJ Green to be AJ Green.

456
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Speaker 1: Maybe that's unfair because as you said, he's no longer

457
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Speaker 1: in number one, he's a number two, all right, But

458
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Speaker 1: I think the expectation was you lose DeAndre Hopkins, good news,

459
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Speaker 1: Hey you've got AJ Green. He's capable, he knows how

460
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Speaker 1: to play that role, and he was targeted, but there

461
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Speaker 1: was out of the twenty six targets over the last

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Speaker 1: four games twelve matches, it's less than fifty. So again,

463
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Speaker 1: where what was missing between that relationship? Well, but also

464
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Speaker 1: we got to talk about the offensive line. I mean, again,

465
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Speaker 1: every team has injuries, but when you have different nine

466
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Speaker 1: different line combinations, Kyler was being pressured. I mean he

467
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Speaker 1: would just go back to the last couple of games.

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Speaker 1: Look at Kyler's numbers. I mean they were way down

469
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Speaker 1: compared to his completion percentage, average per attempt, touchdown, the

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Speaker 1: interception ratio. So it's just not one guy. But if

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Speaker 1: they if Kyler doesn't hold the ball for three three

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Speaker 1: seconds like he did in the first half against the Rams,

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Speaker 1: you gotta get rid of the ball. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: he he practiced, you know, on Thursday, he's able to

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Speaker 1: kind of give him he'd go out there and run

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Speaker 1: some routes and then he would, you know, obviously watch practice.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm thrilled that he was able to

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Speaker 1: play as many games as he did, because when you

479
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Speaker 1: get a guy that's a he's like J. J. Watt,

480
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Speaker 1: eventually it's going to catch up to And maybe maybe

481
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Speaker 1: he hit the wall from just a you know, a

482
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Speaker 1: physical standpoint, you know where it comes to. You know,

483
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Speaker 1: maybe he didn't look as fast as he did in

484
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Speaker 1: the first couple months of the season. So now teams

485
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Speaker 1: are kind of countering that with his coverage. Be real

486
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Speaker 1: curious to know how well he would have done, how

487
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Speaker 1: much better he would have been if Hopkins had never

488
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Speaker 1: gotten hurt, because you never plan for someone to get hurt,

489
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Speaker 1: especially not a DeAndre Hopkins, but to have that one

490
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Speaker 1: two punch because you look at the numbers an excellent season,

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Speaker 1: Which brings me to this because I know you already

492
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Speaker 1: said he would not be on your team moving forward,

493
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Speaker 1: and I get that. Raid. I'm sorry, he would not

494
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Speaker 1: be on your radar bringing him back, And I get that,

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Speaker 1: and I totally understand that sentiment. That's probably ninety nine

496
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Speaker 1: percent of the fan base that watches and covers this

497
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Speaker 1: Cardinals team. No, you're not bringing Ajack aj greenback because

498
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Speaker 1: you can do better well numbers wise. That's gonna be

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Speaker 1: hard to replicate and might not be a popular opinion,

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Speaker 1: but I'll throw that out there based off of what

501
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Speaker 1: he did last season, and if you have a healthy

502
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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, he knows the system AJ Green, I would

503
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Speaker 1: not discount him coming back. It would not be popular.

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Speaker 1: I totally get that because of how the season finished,

505
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Speaker 1: how his year finished, however, but it's twofold. When Hops

506
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Speaker 1: on the field, he doesn't draw the double team. So listen,

507
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Speaker 1: if you're telling me, hey, you need depth on the roster,

508
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Speaker 1: we know injuries occur, you may lose Christian Kirk, bring

509
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Speaker 1: him in for a minimum deal. He'd have to make

510
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Speaker 1: the team in camp. But I'm just saying I think

511
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Speaker 1: he need to upgrade that number two position as a whole.

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Speaker 1: All right. So if you're upgrading and is that Antoine Wesley,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's No, that's not it. He's a

514
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Speaker 1: four or five. Okay. So there's someone that I think

515
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Speaker 1: got his feet wet late in the season being that

516
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Speaker 1: outside wide receiver. But you do need someone and I'm

517
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Speaker 1: talking I'm not five ten, five eleven wide receiver playing outside.

518
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Speaker 1: I need someone that can take the top off, can

519
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Speaker 1: out jump the defensive back. Maybe AJ Green didn't have

520
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: the speed, but he won a lot of fifty fifty balls.

521
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 1: He could high point that football and you look, you know,

522
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Speaker 1: is that on free agency? Is that in the draft?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna cost you. It's gonna cost you

524
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Speaker 1: some money. And even AJ Green MG, I think is

525
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Speaker 1: going to get paid this offseason based off his production.

526
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Speaker 1: He can go in and say, look, I made over

527
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Speaker 1: eight million dollars I think for what I was able

528
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Speaker 1: to do. Now, the flip side is like, well, you

529
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Speaker 1: disappeared in the second half of the season, But numbers wise,

530
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Speaker 1: someone's gonna pay him and it's gonna be a one

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Speaker 1: year deal. Probably, Yeah. I mean he made basically he

532
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Speaker 1: made half of Fitz was making. Fitz was guarantee to

533
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Speaker 1: make eleven. I think it was six. It could be

534
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Speaker 1: eight with incentives. I think Wesley can replace him, but

535
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Speaker 1: he's not a two. He's more of a four or five.

536
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Speaker 1: I think Wesley can and he'll be much cheaper. So

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Speaker 1: you're looking to upgrade then at that point, because of

538
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Speaker 1: where this team is, is that someone that you could

539
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Speaker 1: roll the dice and that's a draft pick or are

540
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Speaker 1: you looking in free agency? Both? Again, we'll go through

541
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Speaker 1: the names, but I think the elephant in the room

542
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Speaker 1: here is Christian Kirk. As any of you put him

543
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Speaker 1: back outside wide receiver. No, no, I'm just saying what

544
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Speaker 1: happens with Christian Kirk because to me, rondel Moore is

545
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Speaker 1: more of a three or four right now, and I

546
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Speaker 1: hope they use him differently. You see DJ Deebo Samuel,

547
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: you see Tyreek Hill, you see some of these other guys,

548
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: and you know he'll never admit it, but normally these

549
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: guys hit the wall. Just like Marco Wilson, he was

550
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Speaker 1: getting picked on and Cliff. He knows that he's a weapon,

551
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Speaker 1: and maybe sometimes just let him fly down the field

552
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Speaker 1: and throw the bomb to him, versus you know, him

553
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Speaker 1: getting a screen pass, a five yard screen pass and

554
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Speaker 1: then putting his foot in the dirt and getting twenty yards.

555
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Speaker 1: So I think that Cliff's going to have to figure

556
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Speaker 1: out another way to use him. My thing with Christian

557
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Speaker 1: Kirk is I think he was a number two receiver

558
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Speaker 1: this year on the roster, just based on his numbers.

559
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: On numbers, Yeah, and then I guess when I say

560
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Speaker 1: number two wide receiver of the playmaker, I'm looking as

561
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Speaker 1: you know, DeAndrea Hopkins wide left, who's wide right? Who

562
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Speaker 1: plays that's what Z position on the football field? That

563
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: can't be Christian Kirk. He did it initially, Yeah, but

564
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Speaker 1: he's moving forward. That's not Christian Kerk. Yeah, he played

565
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Speaker 1: his natural position. And again I would I would use

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Speaker 1: rondel Moore on the outside a little bit more. I mean,

567
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Speaker 1: I get the gadget plays in I candy, but I

568
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Speaker 1: would try to use him in matchups because if he's

569
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Speaker 1: drawn the third corner or the strong safety, I'll take

570
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Speaker 1: my I'll take my matchups there. Again, hopefully he gets stronger.

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Speaker 1: You know, he obviously has all the talent in the world,

572
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Speaker 1: but I was expecting a little bit more from him,

573
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Speaker 1: maybe more in the return game to get his feet wet.

574
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Speaker 1: And he made some you know, he made some decisions

575
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Speaker 1: where I'm sure when he goes and backs and wants

576
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: to film. He admitted that it eat him up just

577
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Speaker 1: having that fumble against the Packers, right, yeah, yeah, so,

578
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Speaker 1: but I mean, I think he could be a three

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Speaker 1: or four. But I do like his upside, and we

580
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: talked about it all the time. You know, we see

581
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Speaker 1: the development of Jalen Thompson, we see the development of

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Speaker 1: Byron Murphy, we see the development of Zach Allen. It

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Speaker 1: takes time. I mean, he played at Purdue, he played

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Speaker 1: against Ohio State, you know he did, but he didn't

585
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Speaker 1: play the last year, so all of a sudden, you know,

586
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Speaker 1: as long as he can stay healthy, but I think

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Speaker 1: you got to find ways to get him ball down

588
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Speaker 1: the field. In fourteen games, he missed three games with

589
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Speaker 1: an ankle injury. Talking about Ron Delmore finished with the

590
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Speaker 1: eighth most all purpose yards among rookies four hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty five receiving yards, seventy six rushing yards, one hundred

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Speaker 1: and seventy one yards on hunt return, two hundred and

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Speaker 1: ninety one on kickoff return. He averaged just over eight

594
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Speaker 1: yards a catch, which was top fifteen in the league.

595
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Speaker 1: But he's someone I can certainly see replacing a Christian

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Speaker 1: Kirk as far as that slot wide receiver, and then

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Speaker 1: you use him inside outside in the backfield I e.

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Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel forty nine ers to where he's that guy

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00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: that's moving all over the field Cooper Cup because of

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Speaker 1: his skill set, and he was utilized, maybe could have

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00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: been utilized more, but he did get hurt late in

602
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: the season, and maybe to your point, MJ, he did

603
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: hit that wall. Playing fourteen games and that's more than

604
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: he'd ever played in a single season in his career. Well,

605
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Speaker 1: you got to go back to twenty eighteen. I mean

606
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: nineteen and twenty were kind of wash. Obviously he had

607
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: the injury and then tapped out because of COVID. So yeah,

608
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Speaker 1: I liked the guy. I just I was expecting more,

609
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Speaker 1: But he's a rookie, and so I gotta pump the

610
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: brakes there. But I do when you see these guys

611
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: second and third year, they start to turn a corner

612
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Speaker 1: and they're more confident and comfortable. If he's going out

613
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: there and he's thinking what I'm what I gotta do?

614
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Speaker 1: You gotta play free. And he's got the town, he's

615
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: got the speed. He didn't drop a ton of balls.

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Speaker 1: You know, technically, he didn't fumble the you know, the

617
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Speaker 1: punt return. But I think he's a weapon here. I

618
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Speaker 1: just hope they can use him in the right way.

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Speaker 1: Five to seven a buck eighty. So maybe he becomes

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Speaker 1: your slot receiver if Christian Kirk is not resigned or

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Speaker 1: chooses to play elsewhere in Kirk had a great season

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Speaker 1: all seventeen games he played, led the team in receptions

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Speaker 1: and receiving yards, second with five touchdowns. Forty four of

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Speaker 1: his seventy seven catches gained a first down at fifty

625
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Speaker 1: seven percent, so that's ten yards. And I think he's

626
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Speaker 1: going to get an opportunity. Maybe it's here, maybe it's not.

627
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Speaker 1: I don't know, but he is in line for a raise.

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Speaker 1: So all right, now, let's look at it. You've got

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Speaker 1: Andrey Hopkins wide left, Rondel Moore, and the slot. Now

630
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Speaker 1: who's wide right? In free agency? Now, some of these

631
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: names just might not become free agents, but the big

632
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: ticket items. Davante Adams, he's either staying in Green Bay,

633
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 1: are going wherever. Aaron Rodgers is, Mike Williams, Chris Godwin,

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Speaker 1: Oh b J. Though there's question mark now with his knee.

635
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: A couple of those guys coming off a c el injuries,

636
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: but they're looking at long term deals. Alan Robinson, Michael Gallop,

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00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: Jujuicemis Schuster. Those I think are one big names but

638
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: also going to carry a big price. Yeah, I like

639
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: DJ Chark, He's coming off an injury, Gallop's coming off

640
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: an injury. Godwin's coming off an injury. Odell Beckham, You know,

641
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: I think I think when Beckham was available and when

642
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: Hop went down, I think the Cardinals did show a

643
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: little of interest. Obviously, you know, did they have the

644
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: same kind of money as the Rams, But I do

645
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: think that they had some interest and so and I

646
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: know Kyler Murray was trying to push for him last year,

647
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: but he was still in Cleveland. So it's not as

648
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: easy as like Distraft and a fantasy guy. But yeah,

649
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: we'll see his rehab, but clearly he's he's a world

650
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: champion now and he played really well when he joined

651
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: the Rams and things went well in Los Angeles, and

652
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: maybe his reputation for those outside you know, myself included.

653
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: You see what happened with the Giants and the Browns,

654
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: You're like, you know, do you really want to bring

655
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: that into your locker room? Well, obviously worked in Los Angeles,

656
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 1: and again it helps when you're winning, but you also

657
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: have to be utilized. And if you're throwing the ball

658
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: to ob J, I'm sure it's like every wide receiver.

659
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: You're getting the ball, you're happy. So those are some

660
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: of the big ticket names out there, but maybe more affordable.

661
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins, Will Fuller, Marquez Valadine, Scandling, Jamison Crowder. Now again,

662
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: if you're talking about upgrading that position, I'm talking. When

663
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: I say number two, I mean the Z position outside

664
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: opposite DeAndre Hopkins. AJ Green is going to be in

665
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: that mix. The question is is it AJ Green or

666
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: is it someone else? Well, Will Fuller he actually played

667
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: with DeAndre Hopkins. I think he had a short suspension

668
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: if it was for PDS or maybe something he took

669
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: over the counter. But he's got speed. I mean you

670
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: lined him bump on the outside and kind of just

671
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,919
Speaker 1: dreaming his free here. Zay Jones I thought he played

672
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: well for the Raiders, I mean made some big catches

673
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: with Derek Carther Higgins. I always thought when Beckham and

674
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 1: Jarvis Lande, who did not have a good year, I

675
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: thought Higgins was a target for the Browns. And then

676
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: you look at Valdez Scantling, when you got Davante Adams

677
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: out there, Randall Cobb, and you got Aaron Rodgers. I

678
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: mean it seemed like he was open a lot so

679
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 1: and again this is the perfect age for free agents

680
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: twenty six or twenty seven years old. You know, sure

681
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: you went out and got JJ Watt and AJ Green

682
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: where I think they kind of hit the reset button

683
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: on their careers just playing outside and playing on real grass,

684
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: enjoying the outside weather and stuff like that. But again,

685
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: those guys you mentioned, I think they're gonna be a

686
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: big ticket item, as you pointed out, more affordable. I

687
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: think that's a great way to describe it. Now in

688
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: the draft, can you find the next Jamar Chase now

689
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: twenty three? What what what Chase did in twenty twenty

690
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: one was just off the charts. Matan might never be duplicated,

691
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: but if you're looking for that wide receiver, I think

692
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: at twenty three, depending on how the board shakes out,

693
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: you're looking at wide receiver as a possibility. I mean

694
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: there's a couple of good ones out of Ohio State,

695
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, Chris Lave. Alabama had two real good ones

696
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams and John Metchi, both though got hurts and

697
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: the national championship or on the road to the national championship.

698
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: But there is some depth at wide receiver when you

699
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: look at the Cardinals picking at number twenty three, and

700
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: when we see wide receiver, I'm talking six feet and taller.

701
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm not looking for a slot receiver at number twenty

702
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: three because again, this discussion is the wide receiver opposite

703
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 1: DeAndrea Hopkins. Who can who can benefit from the attention

704
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: that number ten receives, who can also maybe occupy some

705
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: of that attention of opposing defenses so Hopkins is not

706
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: always double teamed or the safety doesn't come over the

707
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: top all the time. Yeah, you mentioned some slid names.

708
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: Now you know you can go about ten deep and

709
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: probably some guys are gonna be drafting the second and

710
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: third round. It's not the fourth round. But you know,

711
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: we'll see what they do in free agency. First did

712
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: they retain Christian Kirk, did they try to bring back

713
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: a J. Green? But at twenty three, I mean, it

714
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me if they trade it down to get

715
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: an extra pick or take the best available player. And

716
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: to me, if a receiver's there, I mean all of

717
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: a sudden, plug in play, all of a sudden. Now,

718
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: Wesley's number five or six, you know, And I like

719
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: what you were saying. A big receiver that can take

720
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: the top off the defense could get the fifty fifty balls.

721
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 1: But I just think, you know, corner trench's, interior offensive line,

722
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: interior defensive line, those would be the priority at number

723
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: twenty three. I'm with you right there for me, depending

724
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: on though, what happens ahead of you. Yeah, and I

725
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: haven't I don't look at mox, I look at names,

726
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: So I don't know how many receivers would be off

727
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: the board. I'm sure I can find it after the show.

728
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: But you know, I like what you're saying because they

729
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: did have enough small guys and we haven't even touched

730
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: Andy Isabelle yet. Well here's we talked briefly about Antoine Wesleigh.

731
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: Do think he's a capable player four or five? And

732
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's not ready to be that number two,

733
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: that opposite wide receiver, although I did like how he

734
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: finished the season three touchdowns over the last three games.

735
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: So and there's a relationship between him and Kyle Murray

736
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: and that's a huge benefit. And Kingsbury. Now, to me,

737
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: when you go four wide, you have Wesley Hop depending

738
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: on Rondel Moore, and then who's who's the number two guys?

739
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: So I mean, I'll take my chances with him now

740
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: he's drawing the fourth corner. I mean he told us.

741
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: We talked to him after the season him and I

742
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: asked him, what are you going to work on route running?

743
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: Getting stronger, because you were the first guy that brought

744
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: it up that there were times when he had the

745
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: ball in his hands and I got knocked out during

746
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: some of these games. So he's got to get stronger,

747
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: more better route runner. But I think he's going to

748
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: have a spot on this team. It's just a matter

749
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 1: what's the pecking order. Where's he had on the letters

750
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: he in the fourth step or the fifth step. De

751
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: Hop had a great comment about getting stronger hand strength,

752
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: and during that appearance on Sirius XM NFL radio talked

753
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: about strengthening his hands, that the hand grip always squeezing

754
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: it and that's where an Antoine Wesley needs to get

755
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 1: stronger in his hands and a little bit upper body

756
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: to be able to bump knock away press coverage. Yeah,

757
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: get away from that defender. So I do like him.

758
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: Andy Isabella, Greg Dortch, and Andre Bechellia. Those are the

759
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: other wide receivers that the Cardinals have under contract in

760
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: addition to DeAndre Hopkins and rondel More. Isabella right now

761
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: just a depth guy until you find someone else. I

762
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: don't think he's going anywhere, and the immediate future could

763
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: be someone that if he doesn't have a great training camp,

764
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 1: is not on this roster. But he's going to stay

765
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: on this roster because he's under contract and you need

766
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: depth at that wide receiver position. Greg Dortsch actually had

767
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: more offensive snaps than Isabella this season, and Magellia has

768
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: been all season on the practice squad. Again, one of

769
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: those players that I think the Cardinals like and want

770
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: to see further development, more of a practice squad guy

771
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: playing him in the preseason. You know, Isabella, I mean,

772
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: I think he's making over two million dollars I mean,

773
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a guarantee, but I can

774
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: I can agree with you bringing the camp and see

775
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: where you are. But if they load up two or

776
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 1: three guys, and I don't even know if you can

777
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: get a seventh round pick for him right now, it

778
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: would depend what happens in free agency and how many

779
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: they draft to depend to the factor in whether Isabella

780
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: is here come OTA's And we're gonna mention this if

781
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: they retain zach Ertz in Max Williams, you're talking about

782
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: taking targets away from some of these guys, you know,

783
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: even though you're gonna have your top three receivers. And again,

784
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: Wesley and Rondo Moore would be either more to me

785
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: three or four Wesley's four or five. But zach Ertz,

786
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: if they're able to resign him to me, that would

787
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: be a priority. And I know that Max Williams would

788
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 1: like to come back. He's kind of the best eleven personnel.

789
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: Tight End. I think Zach's Ertz is a mismatch when

790
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: it comes to safeties and the nickel corner. So some

791
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: of those targets are gonna go to those guys too.

792
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: Did not include tight End or the running back partition

793
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: within this discussion, but it's a fair point on your

794
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: hand because that's part of the offense as well, and

795
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: having that tight end block, receive, running back, run catch,

796
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: that all factors in as well. And yeah, if zach

797
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: Ertz does come back hack, he becomes on the depth.

798
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: Jard maybe your second or third best pass catcher. Yeah,

799
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: not wide receiver pass catch, you know, and Max I

800
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: love the way he blocks. And even though Cliff likes

801
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: to go ten personnel, which I understand he wants to

802
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: spread you out. You use the entire fifty third in

803
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 1: the field, but red zone, third down, and Kyler trusts

804
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 1: him to where he goes down the seam, and he'll

805
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: really improve in the run game. He'll help the run

806
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: game out because he's that's that's what he's known for.

807
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: But also he's kind of like James Connery. He showed

808
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: his upside catching the football in Traffic. Cardinals finished with

809
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: the tenth best passing offense and twenty twenty one and

810
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: twenty twenty they had the seventeenth best passing offense, so

811
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: it did get better. It certainly can be a lot

812
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: better late in the season. But the biggest issue here

813
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: with wide receiver is all right, hopefully nuts, but if

814
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: you do not have DeAndre Hopkins, how do you compensate

815
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: for that and being more creative and adjusting? I think

816
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 1: is a big thing that we've heard from a number

817
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: of people, including DeAndre Hopkins during the Super Bowl week,

818
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: that they need to figure out away now. Hopefully we're

819
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: not having this discussion a year from now. As far

820
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: as hey, you lost DeAndre Hopkins, how did you? How

821
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: did you perform after that? But to me, it's I mean,

822
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: the pieces are the pieces were in place last season

823
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: at wide receiver and then it kind of fell apart

824
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: once DeAndre Hopkins went out the second time in the year. Yeah,

825
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, going into the season, I

826
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: thought hop Green, Kirk More, and maybe it was more

827
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: Max Williams. But yeah, I agree, It's just I don't

828
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: know if they have a number two on the roster

829
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 1: right now, a number two wide receiver opposite the I

830
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: can build a case for kirk if he chooses to

831
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: stay here, but you can move him back outside put

832
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: Rondelmore inside. So yeah, again, there's a reason why the

833
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 1: Cardinals drafted Rondelmore. Yeah, they don't look at the roster

834
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: and go, hey, this guy's gonna be your free agent.

835
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: And if he puts up a thousand yards, it's gonna

836
00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: be a market out there for him. And if he

837
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: have as many drops as he had, he would have

838
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: had over a thousand yards. He finished just sixteen shy,

839
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: excuse me, eighteen yards. Shy of receiving yards at that

840
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: because when when they show you're a football card, you know,

841
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 1: obviously being a draft pick, and you want those four digits,

842
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: not three. You want that four so close. So he's

843
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: got a bright future. He's a he's a great um

844
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: locker room guy. You know, we talk about Jordan Hicks

845
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: always available. Christian Kirk was available a lot of times

846
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: on Tuesdays, whether they're winning or losing. You know, he's

847
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: a hometown guy. You'd like to acquire that, but it's

848
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Speaker 1: a business, so he's gonna find out what he's worth.

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Speaker 1: And you know me, now, if you're another team, put

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Speaker 1: your GM had on. Do you think he's a two

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Speaker 1: or three Christian Kirk? Because it depends what kind of

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Speaker 1: offense your who's another one? I think he's better served

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Speaker 1: in the slot, although that's just where you line up.

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Speaker 1: He does have the ability to motion to the far

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Speaker 1: rights or the far left wherever he starts and be

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Speaker 1: that quote unquote outside guy. He does have the speed

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Speaker 1: to get down field and be a defensive back, and

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Speaker 1: there might depending on how depending on what kind of

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Speaker 1: an offensive team runs, I could I could certainly see

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Speaker 1: a team making him your number two wide receiver. Only

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Speaker 1: takes one yes, so it's uh yeah with Christian Kirk.

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Speaker 1: He's on that list of players that is going to

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Speaker 1: be fascinating to watch what the markets might bear for

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Speaker 1: him going into this offseason. Now, I know it's a business,

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Speaker 1: but he is close to Kyler Murray. M Chase Edmonds

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Speaker 1: is close to Kyler. Now, you know, we'll see it's

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Speaker 1: a business, so they're going to do what's best for them.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think he's gonna give anybody the hometown discount.

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Speaker 1: He was a third round pick, right, yeah, a second round,

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Speaker 1: second round pick, and he shouldn't know. He's put up numbers.

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Speaker 1: And the key for him was a stay healthy because

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Speaker 1: there's been years where he's had the ankle injury. He's

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Speaker 1: kind of played through it. But I thought he was

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Speaker 1: a weapon for Kyler Murray this year before we call

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Speaker 1: it a show Bird gang. We always make sure to

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Speaker 1: keep an eye on the competition. The Seahawks are going

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Speaker 1: to be in the news a lot, I think this offseason.

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Speaker 1: But they officially announced changes to their coaching staff and

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Speaker 1: a defensive overhaul. Clint Hurt promoted to DC. He had

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Speaker 1: been the defensive line coach. They added two new assistants

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Speaker 1: to that side of the ball. Interesting notes, twenty two coaches,

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Speaker 1: only eight return in the same role as last season.

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll in a statement quote, the fresh starts feels exciting. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he got rid of Ken Norton Jr. And then he

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Speaker 1: promoted one guy on the roster or on the coaching staff,

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Speaker 1: and they've added to that mix. And you know, I

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Speaker 1: think it's about the players more than the coaches, because

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Speaker 1: you know, when you got good players, you get more

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Speaker 1: better results. But you know, it's going to be interesting

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Speaker 1: to see what happens. I mean, he Carol seventy years old.

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Speaker 1: Clearly he's gonna get another chance to get this thing going.

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Speaker 1: What do they do with Russell Wilson. But you know

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Speaker 1: those are the teams you want to play earlier this

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Speaker 1: season because we know the first year under Vans, even

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Speaker 1: though he didn't have the personnel. I mean, there's areas

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Speaker 1: you can attack. Seahawks last season twenty eighth in total defense,

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Speaker 1: eleventh though in scoring defense, but only eighteen takeaways and

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Speaker 1: that was number twenty five in the league. So that's

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Speaker 1: why Ken Norton Junior is no longer there. The passing

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Speaker 1: game coordinator Andre Curtis was also fired, So that's why

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Speaker 1: there was As I was reading everything coming out of Seattle,

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Speaker 1: overhaul was the word used a lot talking about what

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Speaker 1: they did defensively on that coaching staff, and you know

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, I'd like to say, well, they're gonna miss

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Speaker 1: their coordinator, Mike McDaniel, Kyle calls the place. The Rams

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Speaker 1: are gonna lose their offensive coordinator, Sean mcvagh calls the place.

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Speaker 1: So that doesn't change now, wish you would. And now

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Speaker 1: you would think with UM, which is shaneen Waldron, you

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Speaker 1: would think being in the system year number two, they

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Speaker 1: can maybe let Russ Cook if he's still there, and

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Speaker 1: they gotta make a decision on Rashad Penny Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: Chris Carson hasn't been able to stay healthy, but they

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Speaker 1: have a weapons they have lock it in DK metcalf

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Speaker 1: and then they usually have a nice tight end that

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Speaker 1: can either block or get you know, targets on third

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Speaker 1: third owner of the red Zone. Seahawks seven and ten,

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Speaker 1: first time in a decade, a decade that they finished

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Speaker 1: with a losing record. Yeah, you normally don't see them

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Speaker 1: at the bottom. No, they mean they were twelve and

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Speaker 1: to four last year. It's a quick downhill. Well, you

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Speaker 1: know what they say. You can go from the penthouse.

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Speaker 1: I'll be clean here to the outhouse real quick. Yes,

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Speaker 1: get patted on the back or stabbed in the back

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Speaker 1: real quick as well. And on that note, we will

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Speaker 1: put a lid on this edition of Cardinals Covered two,

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Speaker 1: presented by Unday Private partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always,

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Speaker 1: special thanks to our executive producer Jim Momandro for Mike Jareckie.

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Speaker 1: I'm Craig rial Lou. We'll talk to you next time

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Speaker 1: you're on Cardinals Covered two.