Speaker 1: I am all in. I am all in with Scott
Speaker 1: Patterson and I heart radio podcast. Hey everybody, Scott Patterson,
Speaker 1: Amy Sugarman, Riley Pellucist. Danielle's iPhones is joining us as well.
Speaker 1: Hello Danielle's iPhone? Who's having you know? We're doing the
Speaker 1: best we can here, guys, How are you good to
Speaker 1: see you? What an episode? Good? Lord? Man? Do I
Speaker 1: want to move to Connecticut? That was an episode? That
Speaker 1: was an episode. I cannot wait to hear what you
Speaker 1: think of it. Well, first, right off the bat, I
Speaker 1: was down in Atlanta at the Pandemic Dead convention, which
Speaker 1: was all um walking dead people. For some reason, they
Speaker 1: invited me. I know the promoter, and he's a great guy,
Speaker 1: and he invited me down in. Yanique was there too
Speaker 1: because we share an agent, and Yannick and I had
Speaker 1: a blast. We just he's a fun guy. And did
Speaker 1: you tell him how much you just love his lines? Oh? God?
Speaker 1: And especially I I gotta tell you, my favorite all
Speaker 1: time Yanique scene and maybe the my favorite scene in
Speaker 1: the whole two seasons is that scene of him I'm
Speaker 1: going home. I mean it was. It was the most
Speaker 1: beautifully acted, beautifully timed comedic scene he set himself up
Speaker 1: so beautifully to just nail her at the end of
Speaker 1: that scene. That was a wonderful suggestion. How about I
Speaker 1: leave this best? Yeah? Yeah, I think it was a
Speaker 1: lot of people's best episode. And I think, you know,
Speaker 1: Amy wrote the episode along with Jon Stevens, who was
Speaker 1: a writer's room favorite, and she directed the episode, so
Speaker 1: it had that special something to it where it was
Speaker 1: just there was it was elevated, and I think the
Speaker 1: I don't know, just everything about it was better. The
Speaker 1: acting was better, the lighting was better. It was just
Speaker 1: didn't miss one It didn't miss a beat, Like every
Speaker 1: single moment was perfect. Yeah, so let's get into it,
Speaker 1: um so tell us your overall of what you thought. Well, Riley,
Speaker 1: why don't you do a little synopsis and bring us
Speaker 1: in so everybody knows what what in the heck we're
Speaker 1: talking about. Well, let's do it. Happy finale. This is two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's called I Can't Get Started. Air date two thousand two.
Speaker 1: It's the season two finale. In Suki and Jackson's wedding day,
Speaker 1: Chris comes into town and reveals he and Sherry are
Speaker 1: taking time apart Eke. Meanwhile, he and Lorelai ag reconnect
Speaker 1: on an intimate level, and it doesn't. Are you going
Speaker 1: to put a little spin in there? No? Parents could
Speaker 1: Vince's Rory to run as vice president, which could lead
Speaker 1: to a summer away in Washington, d C. And Jess
Speaker 1: convinces Luke to let him stay in Stars Hall of
Speaker 1: for good and Rory ends up kissing him by the
Speaker 1: hand while she is still indeed, I mean, oh my god,
Speaker 1: can we start with that or should we start with
Speaker 1: oi with the poodles already? I think we should start
Speaker 1: with well, was what was the cold opening? What was
Speaker 1: the cold open? It wasn't that. It wasn't you mean
Speaker 1: when when when the episode opened, It opens with all
Speaker 1: the flowers and moral and Rory and Michelle are like
Speaker 1: exhausted sink. He's listening to sort of like all the
Speaker 1: wrongs wedding songs. We're listening to Ella Fitzgerald. That was Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a wonderful opening. By the way. That was
Speaker 1: unexpected because it was lower energy and it was a
Speaker 1: little sleepy, but it was cool. It was really cool,
Speaker 1: really set the tone. Yeah, so I enjoyed that opening. Uh,
Speaker 1: and Michelle was in it too, So he's a game
Speaker 1: the whole well, he, I gotta tell you this, this
Speaker 1: episode unique really and it's not your nick. It's unique
Speaker 1: like unique, not your nick like tonic um. And he
Speaker 1: reminded me of this over the weekend we were together
Speaker 1: in Atlanta at that thing. So um anyway, wait sidebar
Speaker 1: really fast? Were there Gilmore Girls fans at a Walking
Speaker 1: Dead like convention? Uh? So this is the thing that
Speaker 1: shocks promoters of these because most of these conventions are
Speaker 1: sci fi or Marvel comics or or horror or Walking
Speaker 1: Dead or something like that. Um My agent has to
Speaker 1: convince these promoters, like listen, he does really well at
Speaker 1: these conventions because the Gilmore fans come out to these things,
Speaker 1: stand in lines, uh to meet to meet Scott. And
Speaker 1: it happens every single time I do a convention, and
Speaker 1: it's it's I think, pretty much on precedented on the
Speaker 1: convention circuit that somebody from a non sci fi show
Speaker 1: and like this, this nice little show is getting convention
Speaker 1: traffic because these you know, the Gilmore fans are not
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta tell you know what I'm learning.
Speaker 1: People love Saw, they love Walking Dead. They also watch
Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls. They're what they're doing it all. It's not
Speaker 1: like one of the other anymore. Two of my top
Speaker 1: shows of all time are Gilmore Girls and Walking Dead.
Speaker 1: Like it makes sense. Yeah, I mean, they don't discriminate,
Speaker 1: and they come out in droves and they are delightful
Speaker 1: and it's so great to meet them. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be a totally crazy person right now, but I'm
Speaker 1: going to say something nuts. The reason I love Gilmore
Speaker 1: Girls is almost the same reason I love Walking Dead
Speaker 1: because of the relationships of these characters that aren't a
Speaker 1: family that became a family. Like I could literally say, like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, there are a lot of similarities in the
Speaker 1: reasons why I love both shows. Yeah, it's those those
Speaker 1: it's those inner connections between the cast, you know. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: but they're wonderful and they're just so happy to be
Speaker 1: there and meet me and tell me about the show
Speaker 1: and what it did for them, and it's it's it's
Speaker 1: thet Yeah they all do. Oh they all love the podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they love the podcast. And if they're not aware of it,
Speaker 1: I educate them on the spot the nicest possible way,
Speaker 1: and they're delighted. They'll go, oh my god, I have
Speaker 1: to catch up. And I said, yeah, we're eighty two
Speaker 1: episodes and you go, oh my god, I gotta I
Speaker 1: gotta listening. I said, yeah, oh, it's wonderful. It's just wonderful.
Speaker 1: And um, you know I'm doing some more, uh in July.
Speaker 1: I'm doing another one in June. So anyway, they're fun.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of fun and the Gilmour fans
Speaker 1: come out and big numbers, they really do, so it's
Speaker 1: it's a real party. Um, it's fun. Anyway. So yeah,
Speaker 1: the oil with the poodles uh seen to became like
Speaker 1: a classic one. And there it was. Yeah, there was
Speaker 1: the construction of the line right there in front of us,
Speaker 1: Rory and and and Laura. I built that classic line
Speaker 1: right in front of our eyes. And with the typical
Speaker 1: Emily Laurea la will you please stop talking? So good?
Speaker 1: But I finally got Danielle. Danielle, did you love this episode?
Speaker 1: I loved it so much. I'm still thinking about it,
Speaker 1: like and I watched it, you know, like I'm just
Speaker 1: like it's still on my mind. I love this episode
Speaker 1: so much. It was such a good finale, so good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it felt like a finale. It felt like a perfect
Speaker 1: warm send off. But we're coming back. It's like it's
Speaker 1: it really did have a nice It was unlike any
Speaker 1: other episode, and especially especially well let's not get ahead
Speaker 1: of ourselves, but with two insane cliffhangers, got so much drama.
Speaker 1: Like imagine back in two thousand whatever, what was it,
Speaker 1: two thousand to two thousand three. Now that's your left
Speaker 1: with that in May, and you're like, are you joking me?
Speaker 1: I have to wait till September to figure out what happens.
Speaker 1: Like these days, these kids have the benefit of like, oh,
Speaker 1: click next on Netflix. People had to wait for months
Speaker 1: to figure out what was going to happen. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: guess what, that builds an audience better than how they
Speaker 1: do it now. I think, you know, maybe I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: but um, you know streaming we'll all right. So so
Speaker 1: I I agreed with I don't know how you guys felt,
Speaker 1: but I agreed with Emily that that was a pity
Speaker 1: invite and to the wedding, and I'm glad that she
Speaker 1: pointed that out so clearly. To Laurela, what do you
Speaker 1: guys think? Totally agree a pity wedding invite is not
Speaker 1: always the worst thing in the world, though, you know,
Speaker 1: you get free drinks, free food, free dancing music, all
Speaker 1: that stuff, and just by the looks of it, that
Speaker 1: wedding looked like the last like yeah, but bet you
Speaker 1: got Kirk singing at the piano. I'm like, this is
Speaker 1: too good. I want to be there. Did you pity
Speaker 1: invite anybody to either of your weddings, Daniellen Scott? Because
Speaker 1: I didn't, but I was definitely a pity invite to
Speaker 1: one of my now best friend's weddings. Like I was like,
Speaker 1: imagine if I if you didn't pity invite me to
Speaker 1: your wedding, it's like a joke and we're best friends now, Scott,
Speaker 1: did you throw any last minute pity invite? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I I know I wouldn't do that to people because
Speaker 1: they know because it's been It's happened to me a
Speaker 1: few times, and it's it's not a good failing, but
Speaker 1: well it's so funny. We so we do these award
Speaker 1: shows and we had to book some last minute presenters,
Speaker 1: and I literally use the analogy of like this is
Speaker 1: like the pity invite to a wedding, like these people
Speaker 1: know that we didn't suddenly just like I can't wait
Speaker 1: to have you present one day before or the show, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's just the that's a business. You know, in
Speaker 1: a business sometimes has glitches and you've got to fix them,
Speaker 1: and you know that it's just that these are personal.
Speaker 1: This is in her personal stuff. This isn't like you're
Speaker 1: putting on it show. Emily called it out and then
Speaker 1: Richard comes in for dinner and he's like, I see, like,
Speaker 1: what's the worst pity and fight that you've all received?
Speaker 1: Can you remember? Has it happened to you? I'm sure
Speaker 1: yes it happened. Like I said, it happened to me,
Speaker 1: but it turned out great, so I no, no um,
Speaker 1: no bitterness on my end. I think you get it
Speaker 1: when you're like find out about a party that you
Speaker 1: weren't invited to and then the person knows and they're like,
Speaker 1: oh you can come, and you're just like all things
Speaker 1: can I Like, I was sitting next to a group
Speaker 1: of girls and they were talking about like a bachelorette
Speaker 1: party and I was at the bridal shower and one
Speaker 1: of the girls was like, would you do this with this?
Speaker 1: And she looks at me and she was you can
Speaker 1: come if you want, Like it's okay, thank you. These
Speaker 1: days as I'm so old though, I hope to not
Speaker 1: be invited. Is anyone else experiencing that? We're like, please
Speaker 1: don't invite me totally, Please don't make me say no please?
Speaker 1: Um alright, So moving so moving into that, it's yeah,
Speaker 1: I know it's it's a very awkward position to be in. Um.
Speaker 1: So now let's move into Luke's. Uh yeah, Laurel, And
Speaker 1: it looks like Dean and and Rory are are happy.
Speaker 1: Is two p's in a pod and a very memorable scene,
Speaker 1: so funny, do you do you like your breakfast? Oh?
Speaker 1: Do you do like? And he's ill on a trade
Speaker 1: like it was. That's a very cute, sort of iconic
Speaker 1: Gilmore moment. So and Laurel I pacing in the background
Speaker 1: round was scared to come in the diner waiting for
Speaker 1: because you know, the the dust up with Luke is
Speaker 1: not the dust is not settled yet. I guess now,
Speaker 1: what did you think he has forgiven her already? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I haven't thought about that, should he? I
Speaker 1: don't know? He is who he is, right, he just
Speaker 1: now he's back in his shell a little bit. He's
Speaker 1: turtling a little bit, Yeah, because he just yeah, it's like, gosh, man,
Speaker 1: that's that's a hard listen. If you're really involved with
Speaker 1: somebody and you have a I mean, if you're you know,
Speaker 1: having a relation, real full blown relationous somebody and you
Speaker 1: have a blowout fight, it's easy to forgive because then
Speaker 1: there's some recourse. You know what to do, you know
Speaker 1: how to make up, and the makeup part is really
Speaker 1: good and it makes you forget about the fight. What's
Speaker 1: his recourse? How do they make up? They're not intimate,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean they are in a way, but
Speaker 1: there it's just that it's such a slight to him
Speaker 1: because he's been there for her. He's been there for her,
Speaker 1: he's been been a good guy. Maybe you know he's
Speaker 1: not so so when you were watching it, so she
Speaker 1: you know, she's pacing back and forth. She comes in
Speaker 1: and Brandy and leave and she goes to the counter
Speaker 1: and she really does say she's sorry. She really does,
Speaker 1: and he still wasn't having it. Did you have a
Speaker 1: moment where you're like, oh, forgive her and let's move on,
Speaker 1: or it's almost like she was demanding that that he
Speaker 1: moved on instead of just sort of kind of vibing
Speaker 1: with him a little bit. And it's like she didn't
Speaker 1: like what she was getting right away, and she got
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if she got hostile,
Speaker 1: but she got disappointed and got defensive and got the
Speaker 1: heck out of there. I really thought it was powerful
Speaker 1: when so I wrote my notes, Ay, awesome scene, Like
Speaker 1: I loved that moment between the two of them, and
Speaker 1: she says, I want Luke back, and you say, he's
Speaker 1: standing right here and she says, no, he's not. Well
Speaker 1: she said it under his breath so he could hear it, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was big. It was a big moment. I wrote
Speaker 1: down those lines too. Yeah. But it opened the door
Speaker 1: for all that Christopher stuff that followed, right, So you
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta propel her into that the possibility of
Speaker 1: all that happening. And that's exactly what that scene. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, that scene served its functions. So it was
Speaker 1: a necessary scene. But I liked it. I did. I
Speaker 1: liked it, and I thought you both were great. And
Speaker 1: you know, it's so interesting. You make a cough in it,
Speaker 1: like you had an entire line of a cough, and
Speaker 1: it was like, oh wow, I threw that in. I
Speaker 1: threw that. It was very good. It's the one time
Speaker 1: I think I got something in that wasn't scripted. It was,
Speaker 1: and then somebody's going to produce a script sing said
Speaker 1: Luke coughs. But I think I threw it in. Was
Speaker 1: one of the most important scenes in the episode. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess as far as those two are concerned, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was heavy, heavyweight episode because it's hard
Speaker 1: to be you know, that stoic and that um you
Speaker 1: know Gibraltar, like in the face of somebody who's trying
Speaker 1: to he wasn't ready and that we know deep down
Speaker 1: he loves. So it's like, I'm sure there's a part
Speaker 1: of Luke that wanted to forgive and and have his
Speaker 1: friend back. Listen, man, he's a blue collar guy. You
Speaker 1: don't talk to blue collar that way, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, don't talk to me that way. I'm a worker.
Speaker 1: You know, I get up every morning. I do for you.
Speaker 1: I didn't you know, there's I'll take a lot of crap,
Speaker 1: but don't don't go over the top like that. You
Speaker 1: know he's gone. And he also doesn't like yelling like that,
Speaker 1: Like not that she was screaming, but but Luke as
Speaker 1: a person doesn't like a fight like that. Oh, he's
Speaker 1: a sensitive guy, right, He's got a heart, he's he's
Speaker 1: he's got a shell on and and he you know,
Speaker 1: he didn't I don't think he deserved that. And he
Speaker 1: thinks he didn't deserve that. And because he's never raised
Speaker 1: his voice at Jeff despite whatever just does, that's not
Speaker 1: his way. So for when when lore like just lost it, rightfully,
Speaker 1: so he was ill prepared for that. What are you
Speaker 1: gonna do? That's life? You know. Do you think there
Speaker 1: was too much emotion coming at him? So what we're
Speaker 1: going back few episodes to the fight. Do you think
Speaker 1: because she was so overcome and emotional and she did
Speaker 1: raise her voice and she's you know, yes, she's blaming
Speaker 1: him for something he's totally not his fault. Is that
Speaker 1: too much for Luke? I'm gonna risk saying sounding um,
Speaker 1: I'll just say it. I think what he heard in
Speaker 1: her voice and in that anger was a lot of
Speaker 1: I think he felt like less of a man because
Speaker 1: and he disappointed himself. If he let her down that
Speaker 1: to that degree, Um, then he's maybe thinking a little
Speaker 1: bit less of himself. So he's he's maybe in a
Speaker 1: little depressed situation. I don't think it's so much, he's
Speaker 1: hating on her, but he's got to deal with how
Speaker 1: he feels about himself. I think that's totally I also
Speaker 1: think there was like a realization that he always thinks
Speaker 1: about Laura Lai and LORELEI wasn't thinking about how Luke
Speaker 1: was feeling in that situation. So I think he was
Speaker 1: kind of like, oh, wait, maybe this is only one sided,
Speaker 1: Oh Danielle, right, but also let's add another layer. Maybe
Speaker 1: he's feeling a little less like, you know, the man
Speaker 1: who will should step up and claim his love and
Speaker 1: you know, really let her know and really go out
Speaker 1: on a limb. And he just I don't know. I
Speaker 1: just think he feels very vulnerable and gutless and he's
Speaker 1: just gonna put that shell of armor on and and
Speaker 1: just sort of keep her at a distance. Now is
Speaker 1: a perfect description. He doesn't know how to deal with it,
Speaker 1: and I think he's disappointed in himself that he hasn't
Speaker 1: made a stronger move to, you know, get that relationship
Speaker 1: off the ground. Yeah, he he could hear it in
Speaker 1: her voice. Maybe he heard some of that too, like
Speaker 1: that rage was like, Hey, stupid, I'm here, I'm waiting,
Speaker 1: let's go and he's not. He hasn't done it, so
Speaker 1: that of course he's going to get blasted like that.
Speaker 1: You know what's interesting that fights really is lingering. And
Speaker 1: I think maybe the diner scene is even more powerful
Speaker 1: because the writers, you know, in in in our world
Speaker 1: it's real to us. They didn't just tie it up
Speaker 1: in a bow and be like, Okay, the fight's over,
Speaker 1: We're good now. It's like they really are letting it linger,
Speaker 1: which made it that much more significant. Yeah, okay, back
Speaker 1: to it, we're going in order. Let's talk about Paris
Speaker 1: running for president. Oh interesting, Well, you know I found her.
Speaker 1: I mean she was appropriately um grading m uh with
Speaker 1: a t, not with a day. And that's her role
Speaker 1: because and I thought it was a great shot. The camera.
Speaker 1: It was a stead camera Steve, This Steve from Steadicam
Speaker 1: doing his great work and walking up that aisle and
Speaker 1: around her and then back down at the stairs. Again,
Speaker 1: that's a tough shot to make. That's a very heavy
Speaker 1: camera and uh, you know, he's got to be careful
Speaker 1: with the steps. He was a big, strong guy, nicest
Speaker 1: guy stead Camp Steve and uh, and uh you know
Speaker 1: she look the contrast between that Rory and Paris has
Speaker 1: to be you know, it has to be black and white.
Speaker 1: You know, it has to be good versus evil. It
Speaker 1: has to be hateable versus likable. You know, it makes
Speaker 1: it work, makes it fly. Um, I don't know. Rory
Speaker 1: just got roped into something. Man, she just got manipulated, right,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yes, I have Paris equals manipulator on
Speaker 1: my notes because literally she totally dragged her in with
Speaker 1: that Harvard. Um. It was a smart for Paris to
Speaker 1: say it. I was like, oh, well done, Paris, you
Speaker 1: got got her. Yeah, but she had me convinced of
Speaker 1: the hundreds of thousands who apply you, you know, how
Speaker 1: are you going to differentiate yourself? And that's a good point.
Speaker 1: And Rory was like, all right, I'll do it. Wait, Riley,
Speaker 1: there are two pop culture references that I have to
Speaker 1: talk about in the recap. I know we're still going
Speaker 1: to do pop culture. But when she said the damon
Speaker 1: to my Affleck, I was like, oh, yes, Like that's
Speaker 1: still so works twenty years later. I know she does
Speaker 1: the Yen to my yang, the Joel to my Ethan,
Speaker 1: the damon to my Affleck, Geller and Gilmore, and she
Speaker 1: really liked that alliteration. Yeah, yeah, it reminded me of
Speaker 1: you a little bit. Amy. I was like, oh that's you,
Speaker 1: like like the am I the Paris No, you like
Speaker 1: like the like the you know, like, yeah, I love.
Speaker 1: I also thought it was hilarious when Paris said it's
Speaker 1: like you were dressed by birds right right right, Roy says,
Speaker 1: I haven't been dressed in spirds since I was two
Speaker 1: years old. I think that's what's that snow white or
Speaker 1: that's what it reminded you. That was what I called
Speaker 1: Danielle the other day. And I don't know if I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm speaker and all I hear is like
Speaker 1: birds chirping, and I'm like, are you in snow white
Speaker 1: right now? Like what is happening at your house? And
Speaker 1: that is dressed by birds? Like, oh my god. So
Speaker 1: it's an interesting dilemma. She I thought that scene with
Speaker 1: with Louise and Madeline was hysterical. You're polling really well
Speaker 1: for competence and and what was the other category? But
Speaker 1: likability your way down and they would prefer not to
Speaker 1: vote for you. So lets you know what I want
Speaker 1: to ask you, all three of you, because this goes
Speaker 1: through my mind all the time. Those two are popular girls,
Speaker 1: like not Paris Louise, and they're like popular and cool.
Speaker 1: Why are they best friends with Paris? If Paris is
Speaker 1: so unlikable and like everyone hates her, but those two
Speaker 1: cool girls are friends with her? What do we make
Speaker 1: of that? I never thought of that. Their followers they
Speaker 1: probably want to get into Harvard too, right, they probably
Speaker 1: have fathers or mothers who could buy them in by
Speaker 1: their way in, and uh, they're just being smart. I mean,
Speaker 1: Paris is obviously going to be a person either who
Speaker 1: ends up in a lunatic asylum or she's going to
Speaker 1: end up running the world, So why not to get
Speaker 1: good grades? And Paris is never appreciated of them? And
Speaker 1: that like you have two really good friends that are
Speaker 1: like out there pulling for you. Ye hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: students they talked to that takes time asking all those
Speaker 1: questions what is happening here? So anyway, I digress is
Speaker 1: Paris like they're bulldozer, like there does their dirty work.
Speaker 1: Or maybe she's been friends with them since fourth grade
Speaker 1: and it's like and they probably feel sorry for because
Speaker 1: they know her family situation. Right anyway, I get to
Speaker 1: buy their friends for so long they can't like ditch
Speaker 1: her right right right, so now, so now we're at
Speaker 1: the doctor's office. Roy's getting your cast off. Christopher shows
Speaker 1: up in his shirt. The shirt was wearing him. He
Speaker 1: really wasn't wearing. I just I love every Christopher moment.
Speaker 1: I know people disagree with me, but I think I
Speaker 1: don't disagree with you. I love it too. I love
Speaker 1: him again. I'm gonna recuse myself from the Christopher's I
Speaker 1: know I'm jumping ahead, but when he was in the
Speaker 1: bedroom and that's white, what are your what are you doing?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? What are you doing? What are
Speaker 1: you doing? I'll get to it. We'll get to him. Huh,
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're in charge. Oh I did it? Did
Speaker 1: I just do it again? I just did it again. No, no,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't shot you down. No, no, I apologize. No
Speaker 1: go go no, go go, go go you Christopher and
Speaker 1: the T shirt and he looked like like Marlon Brando's
Speaker 1: love child with the two kyoky. We'll get to it
Speaker 1: in due time to with the scene with the cast
Speaker 1: if nothing just said I had a necklace, that we're
Speaker 1: really good, and some embellishment, and then incomes Christopher just
Speaker 1: being a hottie. Babe, and like such a good dad
Speaker 1: all of a sudden. And then I also wanted to
Speaker 1: comment on Rory's shirt that said number thirteen and strange
Speaker 1: and all I was like is that's like, it's not
Speaker 1: stranger things obvious. It wasn't even out yet, But like,
Speaker 1: did you guys notice how sure you did? We didn't
Speaker 1: need to. I'm in the fashion on this continue okay.
Speaker 1: So yeah, So that's when Laurela invites Christopher to the
Speaker 1: rehearsal dinner, which is a big deal, big deal. Now
Speaker 1: things are starting to pick up a little pace, right,
Speaker 1: starting horses in the starting gate, and we're like and
Speaker 1: the whole time, right, and the whole time, I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: Luke doesn't even know any of this is going on.
Speaker 1: Is he going to find out? If he does find out,
Speaker 1: how's he going to feel? Poor poor old Lukey back
Speaker 1: there the shell on a dine, like you should have
Speaker 1: forgave her, dude, Yeah, and look at what's happening. I'm
Speaker 1: okay with the holding. I don't know, I think it's
Speaker 1: very unhealthy to do that. You should forgive, you should
Speaker 1: you really should forget unless it's some kind of an
Speaker 1: extraordinary circumstance where it was just so abusive. But maybe
Speaker 1: that's how he feels, you know, that's probably how he feels.
Speaker 1: Um Uh. The rehearsal, I don't really remember the rehearsal. Oh,
Speaker 1: the rehearsal was hysterical because because I wonder, I don't
Speaker 1: think is Luke not invited to the wedding? It's kind
Speaker 1: of weird. That's a little strange. That's weird. That's that
Speaker 1: is explained. That explain that it's weird. Well, but they
Speaker 1: used as hupa, oh did they? That is it because
Speaker 1: Suki's lorealized friend and Luke and Lore are not on
Speaker 1: good terms right now. Yeah, but he's but everybody from
Speaker 1: the town was there except for him, and there was
Speaker 1: no scene excluded because he was not there. Okay, So
Speaker 1: was it because the writers feel that that was a
Speaker 1: big enough fight between Lord Luke and Laurelai that he's
Speaker 1: not going to be invited. Maybe and and even though
Speaker 1: they don't address it, that's what we're to assume, are
Speaker 1: we So we're to assume that, So he's out now
Speaker 1: because he had a big screaming match with Lord. But
Speaker 1: if you were Luke, wouldn't you be mad at Suki?
Speaker 1: For not inviting you, or because Lucas so down in
Speaker 1: the dumps right now, he got the invitation and just
Speaker 1: wasn't going possibly, but that right, it's it's such a
Speaker 1: close to community and he's such a pivotal central figure
Speaker 1: of the town. Why wouldn't he be there. No, that's
Speaker 1: that was a little strange. That's good pointing that out. Um.
Speaker 1: So the rehearsal dinner was funny. Kirk gave his toast
Speaker 1: my car and oh my god, and it was Christophers
Speaker 1: and we've got the kilt thing. Yeah, and then they
Speaker 1: go out, grabbed the bottle and out they go to
Speaker 1: those stairs and it was like, oh wow. But even
Speaker 1: that little kilt scene paid off beautifully because it was
Speaker 1: just you know, during the wedding when he walks up,
Speaker 1: it's like, so there's a whole scene of that to
Speaker 1: set that up, and it's kind of nice to see it.
Speaker 1: I also have to say I loved how I almost
Speaker 1: wanted to copy it Danielle for the next party when
Speaker 1: Christopher and are sitting on the steps at Suki's and
Speaker 1: there was just candles up the sides. I always love
Speaker 1: a good candle entrance. Visually, this episode was just every
Speaker 1: single thing was amazing to look at. Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: know what, I hate to go here, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go here again. I apologize to anybody that day. Anybody
Speaker 1: should I just shut up and talk. We like that,
Speaker 1: we like the controversial Scott. I'm not saying that in
Speaker 1: the Netflix episodes that they didn't make a big deal
Speaker 1: about prepping for Luca Laurelized wedding. It was, but we
Speaker 1: only got the preparation part. We got to enjoy the preparation.
Speaker 1: We got to enjoy all of the flowers and the
Speaker 1: walls of flowers and all of the wonderful things that
Speaker 1: were being planned for Luca Lorelie wedding. We just didn't
Speaker 1: see the wedding. Um and then we see all of
Speaker 1: this wonderful stuff, and they're making such a big deal
Speaker 1: about Suki and Jackson's wedding, right, so I can understand.
Speaker 1: It's understandable how the fans felt short changed by the
Speaker 1: episodes and not getting a real Luke and Laureli wedding,
Speaker 1: because look at all the potential, look at all the
Speaker 1: fun stuff that happens at a wedding, and this this
Speaker 1: episode a finale, right, and the wedding Luke and Laurel
Speaker 1: wedding could have been the finale of the entire series. Uh,
Speaker 1: they didn't take the opportunity, and it's just, you know what,
Speaker 1: I was happy about the in this episode with the
Speaker 1: choice of don't make me sit through the the valves
Speaker 1: like that, we like, I don't. I didn't want to
Speaker 1: be I have to watch Suki and Jackson's full wedding.
Speaker 1: I got enough of it and them coming, you know,
Speaker 1: because really what was about was Rory and Lorelei, you know,
Speaker 1: having these two massive moments which they don't speak up
Speaker 1: and then walking. So I guess sometimes I do think
Speaker 1: like a wedding can slow down what we really want
Speaker 1: to be seen. Well, it's just it's just support. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, they didn't give the supporting characters their due.
Speaker 1: In other words, that's it's a nice way of saying
Speaker 1: the supporting characters aren't as important. They didn't get their
Speaker 1: due because we need to just stay on track with what,
Speaker 1: you know, how we've set this up. The narratives need
Speaker 1: to play out, and we only have certain amount of
Speaker 1: time to do it. So it's got to be Christopher
Speaker 1: Laurela resolution. It's got to be jess And and Rory.
Speaker 1: Well sort of not resolution, but you know cliffhangers right right,
Speaker 1: and we already have our cliffhanger with with Luke and Laureli.
Speaker 1: You know there there there, and there's some bad blood there.
Speaker 1: So we also got taken on a roller coaster so fast.
Speaker 1: So we we've been building with this Christopher thing. All
Speaker 1: of a sudden, we're like, oh my god, it's on.
Speaker 1: He opens up like things aren't going well with Sherry.
Speaker 1: I'm looking for an apartment. Lore lies all excited about it.
Speaker 1: They kiss, they sleep together. We're like on this. Whoa.
Speaker 1: Then we bring in Emily and Emily's like, I'll be
Speaker 1: damn and she's thrilled about it right through all in
Speaker 1: one episode and then we're completely smacked let down it boom.
Speaker 1: I I thought, okay, so if we're gonna go there
Speaker 1: right now, we're going, we'll go a little out of
Speaker 1: order because it is it's a very you know, it's
Speaker 1: like the entire episode. Um, I thought that was a
Speaker 1: little ham handed. I thought that, and I don't want
Speaker 1: to use this term, but it was it felt a
Speaker 1: little soapy to me that he threw in the pregnancy.
Speaker 1: They said, oh, it's pregnant. It was like, oh god, really,
Speaker 1: I mean because when we when we really start to
Speaker 1: here it is you start to hate the guy because
Speaker 1: you know he's going to pull something, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's Christopher. He's gonna pull something. What's it gonna be?
Speaker 1: And here he is. They're standing on the bridge and
Speaker 1: it's like, oh god, sorry, you know this kind of thing. Now,
Speaker 1: what's the reason he got a phone call? He's going
Speaker 1: back to Sherry, but now he says she's pregnant. And
Speaker 1: I was like, oh wow, that was too much for me.
Speaker 1: It was too it was too much, think, too much,
Speaker 1: and I want to hear what. I want to hear
Speaker 1: what Riley and Danielle think, because to me, it was
Speaker 1: like if he just left her, he's a d word.
Speaker 1: But because of this, it's like, oh no, Well, they're trying.
Speaker 1: They're trying to they're trying to rebuild the Sorry to interrupt,
Speaker 1: but they're trying to rehabilitate a guy who's you can't
Speaker 1: rehabilitate no matter how likable David Zuckliffe is. He he
Speaker 1: was not around here. I am being okay, I don't
Speaker 1: want to be so forceble, but he isn't around for her,
Speaker 1: and Rory told him on their walk, you tend to
Speaker 1: do this and you better mean at this time and
Speaker 1: don't mess with our hearts anymore. And that's why it's
Speaker 1: even more brutal. Can you just say it? The guy's
Speaker 1: a selfish loser. So again I'm gonna have to argue
Speaker 1: with you. I he was selfish ish, but he was
Speaker 1: also very young. But the reason he's he's heartbroken to
Speaker 1: leave lore Lia because he loves Lorel but he's trying
Speaker 1: to do the right thing. And yes, it all happened
Speaker 1: too fast in like one phone call. You're like, what
Speaker 1: you figured out life and one phone call. But it's
Speaker 1: like he even says, I missed it with Rory. I
Speaker 1: can't abandon another kid. So I was like, I think,
Speaker 1: to me, the baby was the only way for him
Speaker 1: to stir it up. You know, obviously we need this,
Speaker 1: we can't just have it's not the Christopher and lore
Speaker 1: Lie show. So it's like and it's excruciating for her.
Speaker 1: I mean, she is in so much pain and heartbroken
Speaker 1: again because she let herself believe, even though it was
Speaker 1: for like forty eight hours, she let herself believe like
Speaker 1: this family that I wanted is happening. She told her mom.
Speaker 1: Like the person she would never let in on something.
Speaker 1: She told her mom, And now she's gonna have to
Speaker 1: go back to Emily and tell her what happened. Can
Speaker 1: I can? I ask you? That's yeah? By it all right?
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, um, in terms of
Speaker 1: the fan base and in terms of polling our panel here, um,
Speaker 1: how how right does it feel with Christopher versus Luke
Speaker 1: and Laureli. But I'll just say this. On the Instagram,
Speaker 1: the comments are completely polarizing. There are so many people
Speaker 1: on there that hate Christopher. I've never had anybody not
Speaker 1: like Luke and Lorela, but they some people love him
Speaker 1: like me, and some people cannot stand the character. I
Speaker 1: like him. I love him too, but maybe I'll hate
Speaker 1: him soon. No, you're not gonna hate him more than this,
Speaker 1: because this is as bad as he gets, kind of.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to jump ahead, but I
Speaker 1: just find that there is there's no tension between them.
Speaker 1: As much as they try to create tension between those two,
Speaker 1: there's no tension between them, and I find it. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I just don't find it compelling to watch
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to remove my personal feelings and my
Speaker 1: and my Luke feelings and just try to be objective
Speaker 1: about it. For me, it feels too. It's like if
Speaker 1: if I had portrayed Luke as this sunny kind of
Speaker 1: a creature or see Chris see see Christopher's Luke and
Speaker 1: the show. That's why Luke and Lorea l are endgame.
Speaker 1: But we're just so, we're just in the thick of
Speaker 1: it right now. And Christopher and Lorely there's such that's
Speaker 1: it's there's something between them more than just Rory. They
Speaker 1: do have a chemistry. What did you guys think of
Speaker 1: the kiss on the couch? Go ahead, Riley, It's a
Speaker 1: cute kiss. It's quite steevie. Yeah, I liked it all.
Speaker 1: I just I get giddy when they're together. I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is amazing. They have so much chemistry, you know what.
Speaker 1: I love so much. And I think, and I've never
Speaker 1: heard Luke say it, it's a Christopher thing. I could
Speaker 1: be wrong. Yell at me. Later he calls her lore
Speaker 1: all the and it's like, oh my god, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna say it. I've said it before. I get
Speaker 1: he's the biological dad. I get that he has certain
Speaker 1: rights to see his child and be with his child,
Speaker 1: and it's a free country. Those two can do whatever
Speaker 1: they want. But in in my world, in Luke's world,
Speaker 1: he hasn't earned the right to her heart. And I
Speaker 1: don't understand why she would take him back in because
Speaker 1: he's just been doing this first. He's been doing this
Speaker 1: same routine, showing up, getting everybody all excited, and then
Speaker 1: taken off for whatever reason for sixteen years. And when
Speaker 1: is she just going to move on and be strong
Speaker 1: and say that's my That's why it's so compared. I
Speaker 1: think that's the tension, The tension that that situation creates
Speaker 1: is within the audience or within me saying he's not
Speaker 1: worth it, he's gonna do it to you again, don't
Speaker 1: let him do it again, don't fall for him again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I get what you're saying. And then at
Speaker 1: the same time, I'm like, oh, give another chance this guy.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, You have to remove Luke
Speaker 1: from it if you had to pick who's more right
Speaker 1: for her. And I think I've asked you this before,
Speaker 1: but now you've seen more episodes, Max or Christopher, those
Speaker 1: are your choices up till now. I think they're both manipulative. Mhm.
Speaker 1: I don't think Luke is manipulative. Luke's not. He's not
Speaker 1: in this equation. Here's the game, there's no there's no loop.
Speaker 1: I just want Scott Patterson's opinion on as a as
Speaker 1: a fan of the show watching it for the first time,
Speaker 1: who is more right for her? There's no Luke try hard.
Speaker 1: I know it's so hard for Max or Christopher. Um gosh, well,
Speaker 1: you gotta look at it this I'll look at it
Speaker 1: this way. How devastating would it be if it was
Speaker 1: Christopher and it's inevitably failed again? How would that? Well,
Speaker 1: how would Rory react to that? And then what if
Speaker 1: Max Max became the guy and that failed? How would
Speaker 1: that make Rory look at her own mother? How would that?
Speaker 1: How would that mold Rory? So what's what's best for Rory?
Speaker 1: But she's sixteen and she's going to fly away soon. Right,
Speaker 1: this is going to be much harder for her to
Speaker 1: take than when she broke up with Max, is right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So that's also she was way happier about it. She
Speaker 1: wants it too, That's why this is so devastating And
Speaker 1: as a as a viewer or someone who feels like
Speaker 1: I'm watching these people like I'm with them. I'm at
Speaker 1: the wedding. Oh my god, in the blink of an eye,
Speaker 1: they were all so happy, and then it's just like crashed.
Speaker 1: I wanted them to get through the wedding without that news.
Speaker 1: I thought of the same thing, like, I wish it
Speaker 1: was season three episode one, Oh, Sherry's pregnant. I wish
Speaker 1: it was in the same episode, right, I you know what,
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I thought it was rushed. That's
Speaker 1: why it seemed awkward. It was the only like miss
Speaker 1: note in the whole thing. In my opinion, we're freaking
Speaker 1: out for ten minutes, that's it. And then I really agree.
Speaker 1: I thought he should have faked it through the wedding
Speaker 1: and told her the next day, right, because that's what
Speaker 1: he would have done. Yeah, I guess Sherry was there
Speaker 1: and he felt like he had to rush home to her.
Speaker 1: But I agree with you, guys, that was weird. I
Speaker 1: would have faked it knowing she was about to walk
Speaker 1: down the aisle. His timing was a tro it was abrupt.
Speaker 1: It was bad. Yeah, I mean, it's like he just
Speaker 1: dropped a bomb on the whole thing. But I mean
Speaker 1: it was weird because he was sort of smiling while
Speaker 1: telling her it was that was tough to the whole
Speaker 1: that was tough. You know, they cast a guy David
Speaker 1: Suckcliffe is such a nice, likable guy, right, so they
Speaker 1: had to have a guy like that and put all
Speaker 1: of those pots on him. I mean, just he's awful.
Speaker 1: He's just I'm like obsessed with him. That tank top.
Speaker 1: I know, I'm gonna come back to it. I don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking. You can plug your ears if
Speaker 1: you have to. He's in the bedroom, not you, Riley.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, oh, he's in that white tank top
Speaker 1: in the bedroom, and he just looks so cute. And
Speaker 1: I thought myself, I couldn't even stare at his face.
Speaker 1: I just was staring at the tank top, like his arms,
Speaker 1: and it's like I just, oh, I love him. Um.
Speaker 1: So let's move on to so I think we, uh,
Speaker 1: we kind of talked that to death, Um, didn't we,
Speaker 1: because now we're focusing on body parts. That's that's when,
Speaker 1: you know. But it's like, come on, well, let's get
Speaker 1: to the most important. The two scenes that are the
Speaker 1: most important. I feel We'll go ahead. What do you
Speaker 1: think they were Luke and Jess and Lori and Jess.
Speaker 1: The Luke and Jess scene I think was the best
Speaker 1: scene that I have done in the in the first
Speaker 1: two seasons. I can't argue with you. And I have
Speaker 1: to give the credit to Amy for directing it in
Speaker 1: such a way. I mean, it was beautifully lit, she
Speaker 1: knew where to put the camera. Um, the editing was
Speaker 1: just top notch. It was a really great scene. It's like,
Speaker 1: because we all think of my low now, knowing how
Speaker 1: much work he's done. You know, this is us and
Speaker 1: whatever that show was called where they had special powers
Speaker 1: and heroes heroes, so it's like we're thinking about this
Speaker 1: seasoned actor, but at the time, like he's doing those
Speaker 1: scenes and he's just like a young kid. He was
Speaker 1: very vulnerable in this scene, but it was one not
Speaker 1: too vulnerable, right, you know what I mean. Jes slipped
Speaker 1: back the bad boys even pack my stuff, so we see,
Speaker 1: we see how I'm manipulative he can be. And he's
Speaker 1: just got his hat in his hand and he has
Speaker 1: nowhere else to turn. And how do you say, pretend
Speaker 1: I'm some actor expert, which I'm not, But would you
Speaker 1: call that the reason that was so good is the
Speaker 1: word nuanced? Like it was. That's what it's all about,
Speaker 1: both of you, and I get why your behavior it's
Speaker 1: it comes down to behavior, yes, and I know that's
Speaker 1: what acting. That's what good acting is as behavior. What's
Speaker 1: how what is your behavior in any given moment? Right?
Speaker 1: How are you listening in the scene? How does what
Speaker 1: the other person is saying and feeling? How does it
Speaker 1: impact you? And how behaviorally will you physicalize that cycle?
Speaker 1: Also psychologically with a look in the eye. So everything
Speaker 1: were buddies, Yeah, okay, real life, Oh, in real life,
Speaker 1: I have In real life, I had this like weird
Speaker 1: takeaway from that scene. Afterwards, I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: Luke is so happy. It's like a part of him
Speaker 1: is being filled back up again that was missing, and
Speaker 1: he like, in a weird way, needs he needs Jess
Speaker 1: just as much as Jess needs Luke, like they need
Speaker 1: each other to go through life with. I don't know,
Speaker 1: like there's just this bond and seeing that like it
Speaker 1: come back together. You can see how genuinely happy Luke
Speaker 1: is about that. Mm hmm. Yeah, he feels like he's
Speaker 1: screwed it up. He probably takes a lot of responsibility
Speaker 1: for that and he wants another chance, and so does Jess.
Speaker 1: How he needs it, you know, it's his life. I
Speaker 1: have an acting question, um, just when if you're doing
Speaker 1: a scene with somebody and you just can't get there,
Speaker 1: like I can't connect, Like how do you get yourself
Speaker 1: to to make it to that place where it's believable?
Speaker 1: Smack him? You will connect with me, you know, like yourself,
Speaker 1: like do you like do you do you have any
Speaker 1: like you think I'm kidding, I'm not what do you
Speaker 1: have any like rituals or something that you would tell
Speaker 1: yourself to like get there. I never had that problem
Speaker 1: on Gilmore Girls. No, those were those whore I mean
Speaker 1: that was a gift. Every day. You were always working
Speaker 1: with somebody on a very high caliber talent who knew
Speaker 1: really knew their craft. So it was never about that.
Speaker 1: I've done other shows where it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: you had to slap me. I never slapt anybody. I'm
Speaker 1: just kidding, but you want to because like wake the
Speaker 1: f up man to get it in the scene. You're
Speaker 1: Sometimes people get too much in their head because they
Speaker 1: over analyze and they think about stuff too much. And
Speaker 1: that's good to do and rehearsal. It's good to do
Speaker 1: while you're preparing the work. But once the cameras rolling
Speaker 1: and they say action, man, just let it fly. Just
Speaker 1: trust the research that you've done, trust to work and
Speaker 1: just listen and go and just you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of people think that was one of the I think
Speaker 1: that was the best scene you've done or up there,
Speaker 1: because you know what when he starts to walk away
Speaker 1: and Luke says she's not home, she's not home, and
Speaker 1: he tries, you know what, he says, they're doing good.
Speaker 1: He's trying to protect Jess, like of course he's trying
Speaker 1: to protect Rory. He's trying to protect Jezz Like, I
Speaker 1: know you're going to go there. I don't want you
Speaker 1: to be hurt by this. Those two Luke scenes, want
Speaker 1: the one with Laurel lay and the Word's Luco and
Speaker 1: the Jess Lulu. I think that encapsulates Luke, Lockstock and Barrel.
Speaker 1: That's all you need to know about that character. Watch
Speaker 1: those two scenes. That's so you know how you always
Speaker 1: talked about the Emmy's and how like you guys never
Speaker 1: got nominated, Like I would have submitted those two scenes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was thinking the same thing when I said that
Speaker 1: would have been the one that I think we did
Speaker 1: submit that scene. Then the Emmy's got them a new one.
Speaker 1: Not a chance, but yeah, I mean that scene she's
Speaker 1: not home. It's just like he knows and he's and
Speaker 1: Jess doesn't turn around. You're like they're doing good, and
Speaker 1: basically he's saying like, I don't want you to be
Speaker 1: back and just get hurt and don't hurt her, but
Speaker 1: I don't want you to be her. No, you love her,
Speaker 1: I know whatever? You like him? Poor kid? And then oh,
Speaker 1: you guys, were you looking for Dean at the to
Speaker 1: walk come out behind from behind a tree she was
Speaker 1: kissing Jess. Was that a great I was? I was
Speaker 1: waiting for Dan to just waiting for Dan to somehow
Speaker 1: have watched it like he was upside down on the
Speaker 1: branch and he lowered himself. So I have to ask you, guys,
Speaker 1: what did you what did you were you expecting it?
Speaker 1: What did you think when she kissed him? I was
Speaker 1: not expecting that. That was really you know, that was
Speaker 1: really a great moment. You know when they can surprise you.
Speaker 1: That surprised me and I thought it was terrific. I
Speaker 1: loved it because it's just it's just you know what
Speaker 1: I said after that, I said, ah, young love. And
Speaker 1: then she says welcome home, right, which was so important
Speaker 1: because she freaked I can't. And then so he's sort
Speaker 1: of disappointed, like oh no, she starts to run away
Speaker 1: and she says welcome home, and he knows, like, you know,
Speaker 1: such a stark contrast. And I talked about this before,
Speaker 1: but if you listen to Paris's speech, her election speech,
Speaker 1: it was actually unhealthy to to listen to. It makes
Speaker 1: you tense, it makes you anxious, it makes you you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And then you go to Rory
Speaker 1: and she's just that's healthy because she's relaxed and she's vulnerable,
Speaker 1: and she's sweet, she's pleasant, she's all heard, you know,
Speaker 1: and soul. It's it's interesting. I think this show that's
Speaker 1: why I think these people come to these conventions ends
Speaker 1: and they're so great and they're so nervous and they're
Speaker 1: just like, oh my, you know, and it's just it's
Speaker 1: it's like shocking and it's wonderful because there this show
Speaker 1: actually and I don't want to get to whacko about this,
Speaker 1: but this show actually heals people. It has healing qualities totally.
Speaker 1: It does these characters and I'm not talking about Luke.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about you know, the Roorries oralizes, the sukis
Speaker 1: the just the tone of the whole thing. It's it's
Speaker 1: you could be in a really sad mood. I could
Speaker 1: say bad mood, sad mood, and you watch this show
Speaker 1: and you're like, I feel better, Yeah, I watch I
Speaker 1: watched Gilmore Girls for medicinal purposes. You know, yeah, my
Speaker 1: doctor recommended four out of five doctors recommend. You know,
Speaker 1: I mean I I when the when the credits rolled,
Speaker 1: I was like on a total high. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, that was an awesome hour and what wow?
Speaker 1: My notes say, wow wow wow wow wow wow wow
Speaker 1: wow wow wow. And you get the huge laughs from Unique,
Speaker 1: not Yunick, not Tonic, Unique Unique, and you know he
Speaker 1: gives you the huge lap and then Suki flipping out,
Speaker 1: and then you know, Emily has never been better. How
Speaker 1: great was Emily when she showed up at the wedding
Speaker 1: and said that's how we rise above. It's called rising above.
Speaker 1: I mean that whole speech, she just say I'll be
Speaker 1: damned six times. I was like, I'm gonna watch it again.
Speaker 1: I'll be damn you did you love Richard when he said,
Speaker 1: well I'll join You'll see what kind of scotch their
Speaker 1: servant here? You know, he's rubbing his hands toge. He
Speaker 1: can't wait to get plowed. Let's talk about the scene
Speaker 1: where postcoital scene where Larela comes into the kitchen and
Speaker 1: Suki is freaking out. She's in her wedding dress, she's
Speaker 1: got her apron on, she's taking out the flowers because
Speaker 1: she thinks Jackson will think it's silly, and she's nervous
Speaker 1: that she's second guessing it. She doesn't want to be divorced.
Speaker 1: And you know, now she's you know, she's she's it's
Speaker 1: actually hitting her at this point. How did you guys feel?
Speaker 1: I thought it was a wonderful scene because it really
Speaker 1: showed just what great friends they are and what great
Speaker 1: people they are. And it's a great way for lore
Speaker 1: La to have to tell Suki what happened with Christopher,
Speaker 1: because she's like something to distract me, and she's like,
Speaker 1: I might have something, Yes, I might have something indeed, yeah,
Speaker 1: And and wasn't Melissa. Her reactions were so greatly Oh really,
Speaker 1: you know, the cake and the dress he gave us
Speaker 1: that moment because we're not going to get it later
Speaker 1: to see the cake and the dress, right, right, We
Speaker 1: did see the cake at the wedding, but not the dress.
Speaker 1: Oh you did when they saw Jackson come out, we
Speaker 1: never saw, right. But that was a wonderful scene between
Speaker 1: two very close friends. I mean, just just wonderful, wonderful stuff. Um.
Speaker 1: And I think that's that's the heart and soul the show.
Speaker 1: That's the feeling of the show. And I think you know,
Speaker 1: Suki is a big character in the show. I mean,
Speaker 1: she's just really there's such weight there, you know. I
Speaker 1: mean she's really just so incredibly talented and so vulnerable
Speaker 1: and so sweet and my god, she's so fragile and
Speaker 1: yet at the same time tough as nails, like don't
Speaker 1: mess it. But I mean, what a great base to
Speaker 1: come from, you know, open hearted, vulnerable, be able to
Speaker 1: do anything. And what a great finale to get to
Speaker 1: have a thing to get everybody together. So we've got
Speaker 1: them singing by the piano when they're talking about like,
Speaker 1: oh watch out Dean, when that BET's got a couple
Speaker 1: of drinks, you know, like those reasons to bring everybody,
Speaker 1: poor Deane being led to the slaughter once again every
Speaker 1: time he said its best. It's like, but how funny
Speaker 1: was Kirk singing at the by the piano? Come on?
Speaker 1: They had a bunch of great moments. Um. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I love it. It's like the town hall meetings. I
Speaker 1: love all the scenes when everyone's there, right, But there's
Speaker 1: just there's just nothing like a wedding. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: the it's the soul of of it's it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's the essence of life. There's two people embarking on
Speaker 1: a journey, a lifelong journey, and and I mean it
Speaker 1: is it's evolution, it's it's nature at play and working
Speaker 1: through human being. I mean, it's all these all this stuff,
Speaker 1: and it's there's just that's why a lot of great
Speaker 1: directors open their films with weddings. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: Michael Jamino, Francis Ford Coppola, I mean a lot of
Speaker 1: classic films are open with weddings. Um, weddings are wonderful
Speaker 1: things to it to witness on film. They really it
Speaker 1: gave so many opportunities to see different you know, We've
Speaker 1: got that Christopher and lor La High and they have
Speaker 1: that kiss and she tells Emily, and then suddenly the
Speaker 1: phone and we have that scene with Rory and Christopher
Speaker 1: having that moment. All this happened at the wedding, and
Speaker 1: then we have the kiss with with Jess and it's
Speaker 1: just like and then then we'll so let down. It's
Speaker 1: just so many things happened. I think the lesson the
Speaker 1: life lessons here to be learned from from Luke, from
Speaker 1: Christopher and lor La are, no matter how well intentioned
Speaker 1: you are, no matter how young you are, know how to,
Speaker 1: No matter how innocent you are, choices matter, and the
Speaker 1: choices that you make way back when will you know
Speaker 1: spawn consequences the rest of your life. And now look
Speaker 1: at Christopher, I mean, he's getting ground up. Do you
Speaker 1: think Christopher wants to be in a situation where he's
Speaker 1: got Sherry, who he's not so into anymore, and now
Speaker 1: she's pregnant. That's going to be trying to do the
Speaker 1: right and too late. He should have done the right
Speaker 1: thing back then and he realizes it. And what do
Speaker 1: you think the chances are Sherry and Christopher are going
Speaker 1: to be together forever? Yeah? Right, Yeah, that's tough because
Speaker 1: there's so much pressure now on the other side he's tough, tough.
Speaker 1: It's tough being Christopher. I mean, you can look good
Speaker 1: in your T shirt all day, but man, that's that's
Speaker 1: that's a tough slog being that guy. Man, I will
Speaker 1: say I have confidence in saying that this is the
Speaker 1: end of Christopher and Lorela, Like this is what is it? Really? Okay? No?
Speaker 1: Like he won't come back again in season? Shoot? Did
Speaker 1: he come back? Everyone listening is literally did you say
Speaker 1: he won't come back until when? No? I feel like
Speaker 1: this is just the end, like he's he's done for
Speaker 1: Oh no, he comes back? Damn it be more wrong.
Speaker 1: Sorry for all the people that are yelling at me
Speaker 1: right now. I admire her confidence in it. She was,
Speaker 1: so she's like, I am certain that he is. He's
Speaker 1: gone now gone for good? Wait just damn? Oh god?
Speaker 1: I mean you guys are gonna replay this clip whenever?
Speaker 1: Oh yes, Riley, can you make a note of this
Speaker 1: very episode so we can just burn her later. Man,
Speaker 1: that's the beauty. You can't predict what's going to happen
Speaker 1: on this show. You really can't. Very surprising. But all right,
Speaker 1: So that's that was one heck of a before we go,
Speaker 1: I had one more pop culture thing that I have
Speaker 1: to bring up in this episode. Did anybody else do this? When?
Speaker 1: So it's when layalizes in the like Scotch on the
Speaker 1: Rocks pajamas and they're down in the kitchen and she
Speaker 1: says something like I think she maybe says like I
Speaker 1: had a dream and Roy says, Brad and Jen broke up. Oh.
Speaker 1: I did not catch that. I would have school done this, dude,
Speaker 1: that if I did, I wrote oh, with like five oh, agent,
Speaker 1: I was like that aged well that Brad Pitt comment.
Speaker 1: Just blasting through Hollywood, right, touching down every once in
Speaker 1: a while. Will you give it ten out of ten?
Speaker 1: Kind out of ten? I think so. I think this
Speaker 1: was an excellent episode. It didn't hit you over the
Speaker 1: head too hard with anything. Um Like you use that
Speaker 1: word nuanced. I thought it was more nuanced than most episodes. Um,
Speaker 1: not that the other ones aren't, but this one was
Speaker 1: especially so um and there was just a lot of
Speaker 1: celebrating and great feelings and it was very hopeful episode.
Speaker 1: I think the thing I might Oh, I won't send
Speaker 1: my favorite line yet, but the fashion I definitely want
Speaker 1: that T shirt with the thirteen on it that said
Speaker 1: strange each episode and braids. Did you guys notice that
Speaker 1: braids are very in because not only does Paris always
Speaker 1: wear that braid, her the person running against her for
Speaker 1: president also wore a braid. I was like, but I thought,
Speaker 1: maybe they do it too young up the actors, because
Speaker 1: the actors are a little older, so they put braids
Speaker 1: in their hair to make them look younger. I did
Speaker 1: make one fashion note that for the first time in
Speaker 1: history ever, Lorli and Rory's bridesmaid dresses were actually cute
Speaker 1: and different. They weren't the same exact dress, same color,
Speaker 1: different style. Yeah, but I was like, wow, okay, so
Speaker 1: I found a few, uh what what can we call these? Yeah?
Speaker 1: There were six. And there is a camera pans the right.
Speaker 1: It looks beyond the gas station and you can see
Speaker 1: the orange and white traffic barrier let's see, and a
Speaker 1: real Warner Brothers security guard guarding the entrance to the
Speaker 1: back lot. You can also see a white building with
Speaker 1: green windows and a trailer with a green awning. And
Speaker 1: those ladies and gentlemen are Warner Brothers production buildings and
Speaker 1: not part of the set. Riley. Do you think somebody
Speaker 1: could go to sixteen ten and another one is at
Speaker 1: the very end. Okay at forty three, um noticed that
Speaker 1: Suki and Jackson are using Luke's someone Got Married under
Speaker 1: it after all? Right? Um? There is also a deleted
Speaker 1: scene from this episode on YouTube. Rory wants to go
Speaker 1: to miniature golfing after getting her cast off. So if
Speaker 1: you want to go to YouTube and access that, you can, Yeah,
Speaker 1: well done, sir. Well I you know I have a
Speaker 1: production team too. I don't. I don't have this level
Speaker 1: of of staff and power and money behind me, you know,
Speaker 1: but I do now with you guys. But I have
Speaker 1: a little I have some paper. They're they're doing some
Speaker 1: work man there there. Yeah. They they love the show
Speaker 1: and they noticed all these things like cheese. It gets
Speaker 1: better with time. Boy with the poodles already is h Riley?
Speaker 1: What's your favorite line? We talked about it, but when
Speaker 1: Roy said, hey, I haven't been dressed by birds since
Speaker 1: I was too Danielle the good old Emily, that's called
Speaker 1: rising above it. But I will give you another one
Speaker 1: since I was already said. Um. This was in between
Speaker 1: Laura Lee and Suki with the whole cake thing. Um uh, Laura,
Speaker 1: I goes you get some sleep, and Suky goes and
Speaker 1: you go get sun. Um mine was just Jannie saying
Speaker 1: goodbye the way the way he just cut off and
Speaker 1: say goodbye. Laugh. I laughed so loud. That guy makes
Speaker 1: me laugh so much because he's so precise, he's so
Speaker 1: good at what he does. He's such a good actor,
Speaker 1: you know, and I mean you just it was just genius.
Speaker 1: List is like fifty people and he's like, I might
Speaker 1: have to get a sucking sheet of paper. Like he's
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, I got this. Thanks. Yeah. So anyway,
Speaker 1: oh god he is. Um anyway, I think that's gonna
Speaker 1: wrap it up episode two. Season finale. Can't get started,
Speaker 1: and you don't have to wait three months for us
Speaker 1: to do season three. Sure don't. We're gonna be back
Speaker 1: next week. We're gonna come at you. Um So, anyway,
Speaker 1: thank you ladies. Uh, I really enjoyed this episode. I
Speaker 1: really enjoyed our discussion. Danielle Romo, Riley pelusis Amy Sugarman
Speaker 1: and that's gonna be a rap on season two. Thanks everybody,
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