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Speaker 1: I am all in. I am all in with Scott

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Speaker 1: Patterson and I heart radio podcast. Hey everybody, Scott Patterson,

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Speaker 1: Amy Sugarman, Riley Pellucist. Danielle's iPhones is joining us as well.

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Speaker 1: Hello Danielle's iPhone? Who's having you know? We're doing the

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Speaker 1: best we can here, guys, How are you good to

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Speaker 1: see you? What an episode? Good? Lord? Man? Do I

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Speaker 1: want to move to Connecticut? That was an episode? That

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Speaker 1: was an episode. I cannot wait to hear what you

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Speaker 1: think of it. Well, first, right off the bat, I

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Speaker 1: was down in Atlanta at the Pandemic Dead convention, which

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Speaker 1: was all um walking dead people. For some reason, they

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Speaker 1: invited me. I know the promoter, and he's a great guy,

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Speaker 1: and he invited me down in. Yanique was there too

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Speaker 1: because we share an agent, and Yannick and I had

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Speaker 1: a blast. We just he's a fun guy. And did

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Speaker 1: you tell him how much you just love his lines? Oh? God?

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Speaker 1: And especially I I gotta tell you, my favorite all

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Speaker 1: going home. I mean it was. It was the most

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Speaker 1: beautifully acted, beautifully timed comedic scene he set himself up

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Speaker 1: so beautifully to just nail her at the end of

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Speaker 1: that scene. That was a wonderful suggestion. How about I

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Speaker 1: leave this best? Yeah? Yeah, I think it was a

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Speaker 1: lot of people's best episode. And I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: Amy wrote the episode along with Jon Stevens, who was

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Speaker 1: it had that special something to it where it was

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Speaker 1: I don't know, just everything about it was better. The

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Speaker 1: didn't miss one It didn't miss a beat, Like every

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Speaker 1: single moment was perfect. Yeah, so let's get into it,

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Speaker 1: um so tell us your overall of what you thought. Well, Riley,

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Speaker 1: why don't you do a little synopsis and bring us

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Speaker 1: talking about. Well, let's do it. Happy finale. This is two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's called I Can't Get Started. Air date two thousand two.

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Speaker 1: It's the season two finale. In Suki and Jackson's wedding day,

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Speaker 1: Chris comes into town and reveals he and Sherry are

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Speaker 1: taking time apart Eke. Meanwhile, he and Lorelai ag reconnect

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Speaker 1: on an intimate level, and it doesn't. Are you going

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Speaker 1: to put a little spin in there? No? Parents could

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Speaker 1: Vince's Rory to run as vice president, which could lead

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Speaker 1: convinces Luke to let him stay in Stars Hall of

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Speaker 1: with well, was what was the cold opening? What was

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Speaker 1: the cold open? It wasn't that. It wasn't you mean

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Speaker 1: when when when the episode opened, It opens with all

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Speaker 1: wrongs wedding songs. We're listening to Ella Fitzgerald. That was Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was a wonderful opening. By the way. That was

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Speaker 1: these conventions because the Gilmore fans come out to these things,

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Speaker 1: the whole time, right, and the whole time, I'm thinking,

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00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: Luke doesn't even know any of this is going on.

423
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: Is he going to find out? If he does find out,

424
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: how's he going to feel? Poor poor old Lukey back

425
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: there the shell on a dine, like you should have

426
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: forgave her, dude, Yeah, and look at what's happening. I'm

427
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: okay with the holding. I don't know, I think it's

428
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: very unhealthy to do that. You should forgive, you should

429
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 1: you really should forget unless it's some kind of an

430
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: extraordinary circumstance where it was just so abusive. But maybe

431
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: that's how he feels, you know, that's probably how he feels.

432
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: Um Uh. The rehearsal, I don't really remember the rehearsal. Oh,

433
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 1: the rehearsal was hysterical because because I wonder, I don't

434
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: think is Luke not invited to the wedding? It's kind

435
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: of weird. That's a little strange. That's weird. That's that

436
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:34,959
Speaker 1: is explained. That explain that it's weird. Well, but they

437
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: used as hupa, oh did they? That is it because

438
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 1: Suki's lorealized friend and Luke and Lore are not on

439
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: good terms right now. Yeah, but he's but everybody from

440
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: the town was there except for him, and there was

441
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: no scene excluded because he was not there. Okay, So

442
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: was it because the writers feel that that was a

443
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: big enough fight between Lord Luke and Laurelai that he's

444
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 1: not going to be invited. Maybe and and even though

445
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: they don't address it, that's what we're to assume, are

446
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: we So we're to assume that, So he's out now

447
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 1: because he had a big screaming match with Lord. But

448
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: if you were Luke, wouldn't you be mad at Suki?

449
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: For not inviting you, or because Lucas so down in

450
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: the dumps right now, he got the invitation and just

451
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: wasn't going possibly, but that right, it's it's such a

452
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: close to community and he's such a pivotal central figure

453
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: of the town. Why wouldn't he be there. No, that's

454
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: that was a little strange. That's good pointing that out. Um.

455
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: So the rehearsal dinner was funny. Kirk gave his toast

456
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: my car and oh my god, and it was Christophers

457
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: and we've got the kilt thing. Yeah, and then they

458
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: go out, grabbed the bottle and out they go to

459
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: those stairs and it was like, oh wow. But even

460
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 1: that little kilt scene paid off beautifully because it was

461
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: just you know, during the wedding when he walks up,

462
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: it's like, so there's a whole scene of that to

463
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 1: set that up, and it's kind of nice to see it.

464
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: I also have to say I loved how I almost

465
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 1: wanted to copy it Danielle for the next party when

466
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: Christopher and are sitting on the steps at Suki's and

467
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: there was just candles up the sides. I always love

468
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: a good candle entrance. Visually, this episode was just every

469
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: single thing was amazing to look at. Yeah, and you

470
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: know what, I hate to go here, but I'm gonna

471
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: go here again. I apologize to anybody that day. Anybody

472
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: should I just shut up and talk. We like that,

473
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,959
Speaker 1: we like the controversial Scott. I'm not saying that in

474
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: the Netflix episodes that they didn't make a big deal

475
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: about prepping for Luca Laurelized wedding. It was, but we

476
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: only got the preparation part. We got to enjoy the preparation.

477
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: We got to enjoy all of the flowers and the

478
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: walls of flowers and all of the wonderful things that

479
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: were being planned for Luca Lorelie wedding. We just didn't

480
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: see the wedding. Um and then we see all of

481
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: this wonderful stuff, and they're making such a big deal

482
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: about Suki and Jackson's wedding, right, so I can understand.

483
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: It's understandable how the fans felt short changed by the

484
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: episodes and not getting a real Luke and Laureli wedding,

485
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: because look at all the potential, look at all the

486
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: fun stuff that happens at a wedding, and this this

487
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: episode a finale, right, and the wedding Luke and Laurel

488
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: wedding could have been the finale of the entire series. Uh,

489
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: they didn't take the opportunity, and it's just, you know what,

490
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: I was happy about the in this episode with the

491
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,959
Speaker 1: choice of don't make me sit through the the valves

492
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: like that, we like, I don't. I didn't want to

493
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,719
Speaker 1: be I have to watch Suki and Jackson's full wedding.

494
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: I got enough of it and them coming, you know,

495
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: because really what was about was Rory and Lorelei, you know,

496
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: having these two massive moments which they don't speak up

497
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: and then walking. So I guess sometimes I do think

498
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: like a wedding can slow down what we really want

499
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: to be seen. Well, it's just it's just support. It's like,

500
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: you know, they didn't give the supporting characters their due.

501
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: In other words, that's it's a nice way of saying

502
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: the supporting characters aren't as important. They didn't get their

503
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: due because we need to just stay on track with what,

504
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: you know, how we've set this up. The narratives need

505
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: to play out, and we only have certain amount of

506
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: time to do it. So it's got to be Christopher

507
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: Laurela resolution. It's got to be jess And and Rory.

508
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: Well sort of not resolution, but you know cliffhangers right right,

509
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: and we already have our cliffhanger with with Luke and Laureli.

510
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: You know there there there, and there's some bad blood there.

511
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 1: So we also got taken on a roller coaster so fast.

512
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: So we we've been building with this Christopher thing. All

513
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: of a sudden, we're like, oh my god, it's on.

514
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: He opens up like things aren't going well with Sherry.

515
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: I'm looking for an apartment. Lore lies all excited about it.

516
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: They kiss, they sleep together. We're like on this. Whoa.

517
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: Then we bring in Emily and Emily's like, I'll be

518
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: damn and she's thrilled about it right through all in

519
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: one episode and then we're completely smacked let down it boom.

520
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: I I thought, okay, so if we're gonna go there

521
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: right now, we're going, we'll go a little out of

522
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: order because it is it's a very you know, it's

523
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: like the entire episode. Um, I thought that was a

524
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: little ham handed. I thought that, and I don't want

525
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: to use this term, but it was it felt a

526
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: little soapy to me that he threw in the pregnancy.

527
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: They said, oh, it's pregnant. It was like, oh god, really,

528
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: I mean because when we when we really start to

529
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: here it is you start to hate the guy because

530
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: you know he's going to pull something, right, I mean,

531
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: it's Christopher. He's gonna pull something. What's it gonna be?

532
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: And here he is. They're standing on the bridge and

533
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: it's like, oh god, sorry, you know this kind of thing. Now,

534
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: what's the reason he got a phone call? He's going

535
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: back to Sherry, but now he says she's pregnant. And

536
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: I was like, oh wow, that was too much for me.

537
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: It was too it was too much, think, too much,

538
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: and I want to hear what. I want to hear

539
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: what Riley and Danielle think, because to me, it was

540
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: like if he just left her, he's a d word.

541
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: But because of this, it's like, oh no, Well, they're trying.

542
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: They're trying to they're trying to rebuild the Sorry to interrupt,

543
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: but they're trying to rehabilitate a guy who's you can't

544
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: rehabilitate no matter how likable David Zuckliffe is. He he

545
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: was not around here. I am being okay, I don't

546
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: want to be so forceble, but he isn't around for her,

547
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: and Rory told him on their walk, you tend to

548
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: do this and you better mean at this time and

549
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: don't mess with our hearts anymore. And that's why it's

550
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: even more brutal. Can you just say it? The guy's

551
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: a selfish loser. So again I'm gonna have to argue

552
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: with you. I he was selfish ish, but he was

553
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: also very young. But the reason he's he's heartbroken to

554
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: leave lore Lia because he loves Lorel but he's trying

555
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: to do the right thing. And yes, it all happened

556
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: too fast in like one phone call. You're like, what

557
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: you figured out life and one phone call. But it's

558
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: like he even says, I missed it with Rory. I

559
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: can't abandon another kid. So I was like, I think,

560
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: to me, the baby was the only way for him

561
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: to stir it up. You know, obviously we need this,

562
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: we can't just have it's not the Christopher and lore

563
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: Lie show. So it's like and it's excruciating for her.

564
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: I mean, she is in so much pain and heartbroken

565
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: again because she let herself believe, even though it was

566
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: for like forty eight hours, she let herself believe like

567
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: this family that I wanted is happening. She told her mom.

568
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: Like the person she would never let in on something.

569
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: She told her mom, And now she's gonna have to

570
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 1: go back to Emily and tell her what happened. Can

571
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: I can? I ask you? That's yeah? By it all right?

572
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, um, in terms of

573
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: the fan base and in terms of polling our panel here, um,

574
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: how how right does it feel with Christopher versus Luke

575
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: and Laureli. But I'll just say this. On the Instagram,

576
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: the comments are completely polarizing. There are so many people

577
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: on there that hate Christopher. I've never had anybody not

578
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: like Luke and Lorela, but they some people love him

579
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: like me, and some people cannot stand the character. I

580
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: like him. I love him too, but maybe I'll hate

581
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: him soon. No, you're not gonna hate him more than this,

582
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: because this is as bad as he gets, kind of.

583
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to jump ahead, but I

584
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: just find that there is there's no tension between them.

585
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: As much as they try to create tension between those two,

586
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: there's no tension between them, and I find it. I

587
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: don't know, I just don't find it compelling to watch

588
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to remove my personal feelings and my

589
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: and my Luke feelings and just try to be objective

590
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: about it. For me, it feels too. It's like if

591
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: if I had portrayed Luke as this sunny kind of

592
00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: a creature or see Chris see see Christopher's Luke and

593
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 1: the show. That's why Luke and Lorea l are endgame.

594
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: But we're just so, we're just in the thick of

595
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: it right now. And Christopher and Lorely there's such that's

596
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: it's there's something between them more than just Rory. They

597
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: do have a chemistry. What did you guys think of

598
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 1: the kiss on the couch? Go ahead, Riley, It's a

599
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: cute kiss. It's quite steevie. Yeah, I liked it all.

600
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: I just I get giddy when they're together. I'm like,

601
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: this is amazing. They have so much chemistry, you know what.

602
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: I love so much. And I think, and I've never

603
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: heard Luke say it, it's a Christopher thing. I could

604
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: be wrong. Yell at me. Later he calls her lore

605
00:36:49,680 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: all the and it's like, oh my god, Yeah, I'm

606
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: just gonna say it. I've said it before. I get

607
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: he's the biological dad. I get that he has certain

608
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: rights to see his child and be with his child,

609
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: and it's a free country. Those two can do whatever

610
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: they want. But in in my world, in Luke's world,

611
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: he hasn't earned the right to her heart. And I

612
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: don't understand why she would take him back in because

613
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: he's just been doing this first. He's been doing this

614
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: same routine, showing up, getting everybody all excited, and then

615
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: taken off for whatever reason for sixteen years. And when

616
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: is she just going to move on and be strong

617
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: and say that's my That's why it's so compared. I

618
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: think that's the tension, The tension that that situation creates

619
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: is within the audience or within me saying he's not

620
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: worth it, he's gonna do it to you again, don't

621
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: let him do it again, don't fall for him again. Yeah,

622
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I get what you're saying. And then at

623
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: the same time, I'm like, oh, give another chance this guy.

624
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, You have to remove Luke

625
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: from it if you had to pick who's more right

626
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: for her. And I think I've asked you this before,

627
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: but now you've seen more episodes, Max or Christopher, those

628
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: are your choices up till now. I think they're both manipulative. Mhm.

629
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: I don't think Luke is manipulative. Luke's not. He's not

630
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: in this equation. Here's the game, there's no there's no loop.

631
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: I just want Scott Patterson's opinion on as a as

632
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: a fan of the show watching it for the first time,

633
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 1: who is more right for her? There's no Luke try hard.

634
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: I know it's so hard for Max or Christopher. Um gosh, well,

635
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: you gotta look at it this I'll look at it

636
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: this way. How devastating would it be if it was

637
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: Christopher and it's inevitably failed again? How would that? Well,

638
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: how would Rory react to that? And then what if

639
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: Max Max became the guy and that failed? How would

640
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: that make Rory look at her own mother? How would that?

641
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: How would that mold Rory? So what's what's best for Rory?

642
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: But she's sixteen and she's going to fly away soon. Right,

643
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: this is going to be much harder for her to

644
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: take than when she broke up with Max, is right? Yeah,

645
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: So that's also she was way happier about it. She

646
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: wants it too, That's why this is so devastating And

647
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: as a as a viewer or someone who feels like

648
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: I'm watching these people like I'm with them. I'm at

649
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: the wedding. Oh my god, in the blink of an eye,

650
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: they were all so happy, and then it's just like crashed.

651
00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: I wanted them to get through the wedding without that news.

652
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: I thought of the same thing, like, I wish it

653
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: was season three episode one, Oh, Sherry's pregnant. I wish

654
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: it was in the same episode, right, I you know what,

655
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I thought it was rushed. That's

656
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: why it seemed awkward. It was the only like miss

657
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: note in the whole thing. In my opinion, we're freaking

658
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: out for ten minutes, that's it. And then I really agree.

659
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: I thought he should have faked it through the wedding

660
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: and told her the next day, right, because that's what

661
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: he would have done. Yeah, I guess Sherry was there

662
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: and he felt like he had to rush home to her.

663
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: But I agree with you, guys, that was weird. I

664
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: would have faked it knowing she was about to walk

665
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: down the aisle. His timing was a tro it was abrupt.

666
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: It was bad. Yeah, I mean, it's like he just

667
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: dropped a bomb on the whole thing. But I mean

668
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: it was weird because he was sort of smiling while

669
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: telling her it was that was tough to the whole

670
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: that was tough. You know, they cast a guy David

671
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: Suckcliffe is such a nice, likable guy, right, so they

672
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: had to have a guy like that and put all

673
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: of those pots on him. I mean, just he's awful.

674
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:12,479
Speaker 1: He's just I'm like obsessed with him. That tank top.

675
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: I know, I'm gonna come back to it. I don't

676
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking. You can plug your ears if

677
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: you have to. He's in the bedroom, not you, Riley.

678
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, oh, he's in that white tank top

679
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: in the bedroom, and he just looks so cute. And

680
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: I thought myself, I couldn't even stare at his face.

681
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: I just was staring at the tank top, like his arms,

682
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: and it's like I just, oh, I love him. Um.

683
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: So let's move on to so I think we, uh,

684
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: we kind of talked that to death, Um, didn't we,

685
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: because now we're focusing on body parts. That's that's when,

686
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: you know. But it's like, come on, well, let's get

687
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: to the most important. The two scenes that are the

688
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: most important. I feel We'll go ahead. What do you

689
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 1: think they were Luke and Jess and Lori and Jess.

690
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: The Luke and Jess scene I think was the best

691
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: scene that I have done in the in the first

692
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: two seasons. I can't argue with you. And I have

693
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: to give the credit to Amy for directing it in

694
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: such a way. I mean, it was beautifully lit, she

695
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: knew where to put the camera. Um, the editing was

696
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: just top notch. It was a really great scene. It's like,

697
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: because we all think of my low now, knowing how

698
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: much work he's done. You know, this is us and

699
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: whatever that show was called where they had special powers

700
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: and heroes heroes, so it's like we're thinking about this

701
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: seasoned actor, but at the time, like he's doing those

702
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: scenes and he's just like a young kid. He was

703
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 1: very vulnerable in this scene, but it was one not

704
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: too vulnerable, right, you know what I mean. Jes slipped

705
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: back the bad boys even pack my stuff, so we see,

706
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: we see how I'm manipulative he can be. And he's

707
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: just got his hat in his hand and he has

708
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: nowhere else to turn. And how do you say, pretend

709
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm some actor expert, which I'm not, But would you

710
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: call that the reason that was so good is the

711
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: word nuanced? Like it was. That's what it's all about,

712
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: both of you, and I get why your behavior it's

713
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: it comes down to behavior, yes, and I know that's

714
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: what acting. That's what good acting is as behavior. What's

715
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: how what is your behavior in any given moment? Right?

716
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: How are you listening in the scene? How does what

717
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: the other person is saying and feeling? How does it

718
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: impact you? And how behaviorally will you physicalize that cycle?

719
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: Also psychologically with a look in the eye. So everything

720
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: were buddies, Yeah, okay, real life, Oh, in real life,

721
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: I have In real life, I had this like weird

722
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: takeaway from that scene. Afterwards, I was like, oh my god,

723
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: Luke is so happy. It's like a part of him

724
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: is being filled back up again that was missing, and

725
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: he like, in a weird way, needs he needs Jess

726
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: just as much as Jess needs Luke, like they need

727
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: each other to go through life with. I don't know,

728
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: like there's just this bond and seeing that like it

729
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: come back together. You can see how genuinely happy Luke

730
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: is about that. Mm hmm. Yeah, he feels like he's

731
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: screwed it up. He probably takes a lot of responsibility

732
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: for that and he wants another chance, and so does Jess.

733
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 1: How he needs it, you know, it's his life. I

734
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: have an acting question, um, just when if you're doing

735
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: a scene with somebody and you just can't get there,

736
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: like I can't connect, Like how do you get yourself

737
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: to to make it to that place where it's believable?

738
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: Smack him? You will connect with me, you know, like yourself,

739
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: like do you like do you do you have any

740
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: like you think I'm kidding, I'm not what do you

741
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: have any like rituals or something that you would tell

742
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 1: yourself to like get there. I never had that problem

743
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: on Gilmore Girls. No, those were those whore I mean

744
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 1: that was a gift. Every day. You were always working

745
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: with somebody on a very high caliber talent who knew

746
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: really knew their craft. So it was never about that.

747
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: I've done other shows where it was like, you know,

748
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: you had to slap me. I never slapt anybody. I'm

749
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: just kidding, but you want to because like wake the

750
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: f up man to get it in the scene. You're

751
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes people get too much in their head because they

752
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: over analyze and they think about stuff too much. And

753
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: that's good to do and rehearsal. It's good to do

754
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: while you're preparing the work. But once the cameras rolling

755
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: and they say action, man, just let it fly. Just

756
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: trust the research that you've done, trust to work and

757
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: just listen and go and just you know, a lot

758
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: of people think that was one of the I think

759
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: that was the best scene you've done or up there,

760
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 1: because you know what when he starts to walk away

761
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: and Luke says she's not home, she's not home, and

762
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: he tries, you know what, he says, they're doing good.

763
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: He's trying to protect Jess, like of course he's trying

764
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: to protect Rory. He's trying to protect Jezz Like, I

765
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: know you're going to go there. I don't want you

766
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: to be hurt by this. Those two Luke scenes, want

767
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: the one with Laurel lay and the Word's Luco and

768
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 1: the Jess Lulu. I think that encapsulates Luke, Lockstock and Barrel.

769
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: That's all you need to know about that character. Watch

770
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: those two scenes. That's so you know how you always

771
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: talked about the Emmy's and how like you guys never

772
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: got nominated, Like I would have submitted those two scenes. Yeah,

773
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: I was thinking the same thing when I said that

774
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: would have been the one that I think we did

775
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: submit that scene. Then the Emmy's got them a new one.

776
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: Not a chance, but yeah, I mean that scene she's

777
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: not home. It's just like he knows and he's and

778
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: Jess doesn't turn around. You're like they're doing good, and

779
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: basically he's saying like, I don't want you to be

780
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: back and just get hurt and don't hurt her, but

781
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: I don't want you to be her. No, you love her,

782
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: I know whatever? You like him? Poor kid? And then oh,

783
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: you guys, were you looking for Dean at the to

784
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: walk come out behind from behind a tree she was

785
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: kissing Jess. Was that a great I was? I was

786
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: waiting for Dan to just waiting for Dan to somehow

787
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: have watched it like he was upside down on the

788
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 1: branch and he lowered himself. So I have to ask you, guys,

789
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: what did you what did you were you expecting it?

790
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: What did you think when she kissed him? I was

791
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: not expecting that. That was really you know, that was

792
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: really a great moment. You know when they can surprise you.

793
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: That surprised me and I thought it was terrific. I

794
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: loved it because it's just it's just you know what

795
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: I said after that, I said, ah, young love. And

796
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: then she says welcome home, right, which was so important

797
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: because she freaked I can't. And then so he's sort

798
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: of disappointed, like oh no, she starts to run away

799
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: and she says welcome home, and he knows, like, you know,

800
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: such a stark contrast. And I talked about this before,

801
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 1: but if you listen to Paris's speech, her election speech,

802
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 1: it was actually unhealthy to to listen to. It makes

803
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: you tense, it makes you anxious, it makes you you

804
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And then you go to Rory

805
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 1: and she's just that's healthy because she's relaxed and she's vulnerable,

806
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: and she's sweet, she's pleasant, she's all heard, you know,

807
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: and soul. It's it's interesting. I think this show that's

808
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: why I think these people come to these conventions ends

809
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: and they're so great and they're so nervous and they're

810
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: just like, oh my, you know, and it's just it's

811
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: it's like shocking and it's wonderful because there this show

812
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: actually and I don't want to get to whacko about this,

813
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: but this show actually heals people. It has healing qualities totally.

814
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: It does these characters and I'm not talking about Luke.

815
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: I'm talking about you know, the Roorries oralizes, the sukis

816
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: the just the tone of the whole thing. It's it's

817
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: you could be in a really sad mood. I could

818
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: say bad mood, sad mood, and you watch this show

819
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: and you're like, I feel better, Yeah, I watch I

820
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: watched Gilmore Girls for medicinal purposes. You know, yeah, my

821
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: doctor recommended four out of five doctors recommend. You know,

822
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: I mean I I when the when the credits rolled,

823
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: I was like on a total high. I was like,

824
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: you know what, that was an awesome hour and what wow?

825
00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: My notes say, wow wow wow wow wow wow wow

826
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: wow wow wow. And you get the huge laughs from Unique,

827
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: not Yunick, not Tonic, Unique Unique, and you know he

828
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,479
Speaker 1: gives you the huge lap and then Suki flipping out,

829
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: and then you know, Emily has never been better. How

830
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 1: great was Emily when she showed up at the wedding

831
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 1: and said that's how we rise above. It's called rising above.

832
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: I mean that whole speech, she just say I'll be

833
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: damned six times. I was like, I'm gonna watch it again.

834
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: I'll be damn you did you love Richard when he said,

835
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: well I'll join You'll see what kind of scotch their

836
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: servant here? You know, he's rubbing his hands toge. He

837
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: can't wait to get plowed. Let's talk about the scene

838
00:50:56,160 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: where postcoital scene where Larela comes into the kitchen and

839
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: Suki is freaking out. She's in her wedding dress, she's

840
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: got her apron on, she's taking out the flowers because

841
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: she thinks Jackson will think it's silly, and she's nervous

842
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: that she's second guessing it. She doesn't want to be divorced.

843
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: And you know, now she's you know, she's she's it's

844
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,479
Speaker 1: actually hitting her at this point. How did you guys feel?

845
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: I thought it was a wonderful scene because it really

846
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: showed just what great friends they are and what great

847
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: people they are. And it's a great way for lore

848
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: La to have to tell Suki what happened with Christopher,

849
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: because she's like something to distract me, and she's like,

850
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: I might have something, Yes, I might have something indeed, yeah,

851
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: And and wasn't Melissa. Her reactions were so greatly Oh really,

852
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: you know, the cake and the dress he gave us

853
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 1: that moment because we're not going to get it later

854
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: to see the cake and the dress, right, right, We

855
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: did see the cake at the wedding, but not the dress.

856
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: Oh you did when they saw Jackson come out, we

857
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: never saw, right. But that was a wonderful scene between

858
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: two very close friends. I mean, just just wonderful, wonderful stuff. Um.

859
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: And I think that's that's the heart and soul the show.

860
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: That's the feeling of the show. And I think you know,

861
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: Suki is a big character in the show. I mean,

862
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: she's just really there's such weight there, you know. I

863
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: mean she's really just so incredibly talented and so vulnerable

864
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: and so sweet and my god, she's so fragile and

865
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: yet at the same time tough as nails, like don't

866
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: mess it. But I mean, what a great base to

867
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: come from, you know, open hearted, vulnerable, be able to

868
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: do anything. And what a great finale to get to

869
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,959
Speaker 1: have a thing to get everybody together. So we've got

870
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: them singing by the piano when they're talking about like,

871
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: oh watch out Dean, when that BET's got a couple

872
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: of drinks, you know, like those reasons to bring everybody,

873
00:52:54,560 --> 00:53:00,720
Speaker 1: poor Deane being led to the slaughter once again every

874
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: time he said its best. It's like, but how funny

875
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: was Kirk singing at the by the piano? Come on?

876
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: They had a bunch of great moments. Um. Yeah, but

877
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: I love it. It's like the town hall meetings. I

878
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: love all the scenes when everyone's there, right, But there's

879
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: just there's just nothing like a wedding. I mean, it's

880
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: the it's the soul of of it's it's you know,

881
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: it's the essence of life. There's two people embarking on

882
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: a journey, a lifelong journey, and and I mean it

883
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: is it's evolution, it's it's nature at play and working

884
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: through human being. I mean, it's all these all this stuff,

885
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: and it's there's just that's why a lot of great

886
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: directors open their films with weddings. I mean, you know,

887
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: Michael Jamino, Francis Ford Coppola, I mean a lot of

888
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: classic films are open with weddings. Um, weddings are wonderful

889
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: things to it to witness on film. They really it

890
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: gave so many opportunities to see different you know, We've

891
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: got that Christopher and lor La High and they have

892
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: that kiss and she tells Emily, and then suddenly the

893
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: phone and we have that scene with Rory and Christopher

894
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: having that moment. All this happened at the wedding, and

895
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: then we have the kiss with with Jess and it's

896
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: just like and then then we'll so let down. It's

897
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: just so many things happened. I think the lesson the

898
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,919
Speaker 1: life lessons here to be learned from from Luke, from

899
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: Christopher and lor La are, no matter how well intentioned

900
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: you are, no matter how young you are, know how to,

901
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: No matter how innocent you are, choices matter, and the

902
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 1: choices that you make way back when will you know

903
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: spawn consequences the rest of your life. And now look

904
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: at Christopher, I mean, he's getting ground up. Do you

905
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: think Christopher wants to be in a situation where he's

906
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: got Sherry, who he's not so into anymore, and now

907
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 1: she's pregnant. That's going to be trying to do the

908
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: right and too late. He should have done the right

909
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: thing back then and he realizes it. And what do

910
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: you think the chances are Sherry and Christopher are going

911
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: to be together forever? Yeah? Right, Yeah, that's tough because

912
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: there's so much pressure now on the other side he's tough, tough.

913
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: It's tough being Christopher. I mean, you can look good

914
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: in your T shirt all day, but man, that's that's

915
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: that's a tough slog being that guy. Man, I will

916
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 1: say I have confidence in saying that this is the

917
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: end of Christopher and Lorela, Like this is what is it? Really? Okay? No?

918
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: Like he won't come back again in season? Shoot? Did

919
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: he come back? Everyone listening is literally did you say

920
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 1: he won't come back until when? No? I feel like

921
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: this is just the end, like he's he's done for

922
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 1: Oh no, he comes back? Damn it be more wrong.

923
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: Sorry for all the people that are yelling at me

924
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: right now. I admire her confidence in it. She was,

925
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 1: so she's like, I am certain that he is. He's

926
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 1: gone now gone for good? Wait just damn? Oh god?

927
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: I mean you guys are gonna replay this clip whenever?

928
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: Oh yes, Riley, can you make a note of this

929
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 1: very episode so we can just burn her later. Man,

930
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: that's the beauty. You can't predict what's going to happen

931
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: on this show. You really can't. Very surprising. But all right,

932
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: So that's that was one heck of a before we go,

933
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: I had one more pop culture thing that I have

934
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: to bring up in this episode. Did anybody else do this? When?

935
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: So it's when layalizes in the like Scotch on the

936
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: Rocks pajamas and they're down in the kitchen and she

937
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: says something like I think she maybe says like I

938
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 1: had a dream and Roy says, Brad and Jen broke up. Oh.

939
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 1: I did not catch that. I would have school done this, dude,

940
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: that if I did, I wrote oh, with like five oh, agent,

941
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: I was like that aged well that Brad Pitt comment.

942
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: Just blasting through Hollywood, right, touching down every once in

943
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: a while. Will you give it ten out of ten?

944
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: Kind out of ten? I think so. I think this

945
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: was an excellent episode. It didn't hit you over the

946
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: head too hard with anything. Um Like you use that

947
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: word nuanced. I thought it was more nuanced than most episodes. Um,

948
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: not that the other ones aren't, but this one was

949
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: especially so um and there was just a lot of

950
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: celebrating and great feelings and it was very hopeful episode.

951
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: I think the thing I might Oh, I won't send

952
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: my favorite line yet, but the fashion I definitely want

953
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: that T shirt with the thirteen on it that said

954
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: strange each episode and braids. Did you guys notice that

955
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: braids are very in because not only does Paris always

956
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: wear that braid, her the person running against her for

957
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: president also wore a braid. I was like, but I thought,

958
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: maybe they do it too young up the actors, because

959
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: the actors are a little older, so they put braids

960
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: in their hair to make them look younger. I did

961
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: make one fashion note that for the first time in

962
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: history ever, Lorli and Rory's bridesmaid dresses were actually cute

963
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: and different. They weren't the same exact dress, same color,

964
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: different style. Yeah, but I was like, wow, okay, so

965
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: I found a few, uh what what can we call these? Yeah?

966
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: There were six. And there is a camera pans the right.

967
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: It looks beyond the gas station and you can see

968
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: the orange and white traffic barrier let's see, and a

969
00:58:54,760 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: real Warner Brothers security guard guarding the entrance to the

970
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: back lot. You can also see a white building with

971
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: green windows and a trailer with a green awning. And

972
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: those ladies and gentlemen are Warner Brothers production buildings and

973
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: not part of the set. Riley. Do you think somebody

974
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: could go to sixteen ten and another one is at

975
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: the very end. Okay at forty three, um noticed that

976
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: Suki and Jackson are using Luke's someone Got Married under

977
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: it after all? Right? Um? There is also a deleted

978
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: scene from this episode on YouTube. Rory wants to go

979
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: to miniature golfing after getting her cast off. So if

980
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: you want to go to YouTube and access that, you can, Yeah,

981
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: well done, sir. Well I you know I have a

982
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: production team too. I don't. I don't have this level

983
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: of of staff and power and money behind me, you know,

984
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: but I do now with you guys. But I have

985
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: a little I have some paper. They're they're doing some

986
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: work man there there. Yeah. They they love the show

987
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: and they noticed all these things like cheese. It gets

988
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: better with time. Boy with the poodles already is h Riley?

989
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: What's your favorite line? We talked about it, but when

990
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: Roy said, hey, I haven't been dressed by birds since

991
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: I was too Danielle the good old Emily, that's called

992
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: rising above it. But I will give you another one

993
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: since I was already said. Um. This was in between

994
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: Laura Lee and Suki with the whole cake thing. Um uh, Laura,

995
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 1: I goes you get some sleep, and Suky goes and

996
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: you go get sun. Um mine was just Jannie saying

997
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 1: goodbye the way the way he just cut off and

998
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: say goodbye. Laugh. I laughed so loud. That guy makes

999
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,919
Speaker 1: me laugh so much because he's so precise, he's so

1000
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: good at what he does. He's such a good actor,

1001
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: you know, and I mean you just it was just genius.

1002
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: List is like fifty people and he's like, I might

1003
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: have to get a sucking sheet of paper. Like he's

1004
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, I got this. Thanks. Yeah. So anyway,

1005
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: oh god he is. Um anyway, I think that's gonna

1006
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: wrap it up episode two. Season finale. Can't get started,

1007
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: and you don't have to wait three months for us

1008
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,439
Speaker 1: to do season three. Sure don't. We're gonna be back

1009
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: next week. We're gonna come at you. Um So, anyway,

1010
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: thank you ladies. Uh, I really enjoyed this episode. I

1011
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: really enjoyed our discussion. Danielle Romo, Riley pelusis Amy Sugarman

1012
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 1: and that's gonna be a rap on season two. Thanks everybody,

1013
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 1: best fans on the planet. Um I love you, and

1014
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,400
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1015
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:55,400
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1016
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