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Speaker 1: John Murphy, This is Steve Tasker. Welcome to Saint John

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Speaker 1: Fisher College. As we said, yes, things are winding now.

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Speaker 1: get your you get your call. You see the offensive

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Speaker 1: you know, come out in their offense. You you know

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Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do. So, um, go out there

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Speaker 1: and just have fun. At the end of the day,

431
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Speaker 1: you got to go out there and have fun. And

432
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Speaker 1: it's football, man, it's football season. Everybody's excited. Everybody's amped up.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I'm excited, especially for young guys that

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Speaker 1: you know, um that i've kind of you know, like

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Speaker 1: I'm excited for guys like Kuan. I'm sorry for guys

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Speaker 1: like Abraham Um to go out there and show what

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Speaker 1: they can do. So it's gonna be an exciting Johnson. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what do you think him I like him. He's a

439
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Speaker 1: smart football player. Um. You know, and I always say,

440
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Speaker 1: you know, safeties are coming into this defense is very

441
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Speaker 1: hard position to learn, um. And when you got guys

442
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Speaker 1: like Mike and I have already kind of been in

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Speaker 1: the system a couple of years, and you know, the

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Speaker 1: pace that we're getting taught is a is a little

445
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Speaker 1: bit faster paced, um now than it was when we

446
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Speaker 1: first came in. And so you know, he's trying to

447
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Speaker 1: kind of play catch up, but he's getting it, and

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Speaker 1: he's doing it. He's doing a very good job. He's

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Speaker 1: making plays on the football, UM, and I think he's

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a factor, um on the

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Speaker 1: football team this year. Tell me about your off season.

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Speaker 1: It was the most fun thing you did? Oh man,

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Speaker 1: the most fun seem like a long time ago, right,

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Speaker 1: I don't remember that far. Yeah, right now. My wife

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Speaker 1: and I took a couple of trades. We went to

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Speaker 1: went to Brazil, her and I went to Brazil, went

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Speaker 1: to Carnival out there. It was amazing, and then we

458
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Speaker 1: went to Turks and Caicos right after OTAs. Took my

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Speaker 1: mom out there and my daughter and my wife. Um,

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Speaker 1: it was it was a really good time. Are you

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Speaker 1: bigger physically? In your word? Lest you tell us something,

462
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Speaker 1: I'm just sitting here saying appreciate that. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: And I was working hard this off season. I am

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Speaker 1: about two or two now we're working. Last year has

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Speaker 1: a one ninety five ninety six. So I wanted to

466
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Speaker 1: put a couple of pounds on, UM, and I feel

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Speaker 1: I feel a lot better. Um, this is probably one

468
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Speaker 1: of the best that I felt in a long time.

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited. I'm excited to see you know what

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Speaker 1: I can do. And this is my last question. How

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Speaker 1: has the offense changed compared to last year's training camp

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Speaker 1: to this year's training camp. And I think they're a

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Speaker 1: little bit more of a rhythm. Um. I think they're

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Speaker 1: Josh Is taking control of that offense. I think they've

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Speaker 1: gone a little bit more of the rhythm. They understand,

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Speaker 1: you know, their strengths and and you know that's what

477
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Speaker 1: they're attacking. They're using JB on the outside, taking them deep.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's able to get get open, get open deep.

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Speaker 1: They're putting Beasley in the you know, in the middle,

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Speaker 1: and work in the middle. So, UM, it's all great

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Speaker 1: stuff that you like to see and it's fun. It's

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Speaker 1: fun to see them grow, you know, as a as

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Speaker 1: a as a team, and you know, playing on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the ball, it's it's fun to see

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Speaker 1: them grow. Obviously, you know we're playing defense. We don't

486
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Speaker 1: like to give up the d balls. But it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's encouraging. It's encouraging to see you know, Josh connect

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Speaker 1: to to JB on a frigid and I don't know

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Speaker 1: how far throwing the ball seventy yard bomb down the field.

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Speaker 1: So um, it's very encouraging. It's my last question. Last

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Speaker 1: year one hundred tack um, you had sacks, right, four interceptions,

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Speaker 1: two sacks, one force fumble. What more do you have

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Speaker 1: to do to get in the Pro Bowl? And how

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Speaker 1: important is that to you? You know, at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, man, I just this football team. I

496
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Speaker 1: want to win, and I think winning will solve every everything,

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Speaker 1: you know, putting all that aside, you know, I want

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Speaker 1: I want the team to win. I believe that we

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Speaker 1: can't win and and I truly believe that this is

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Speaker 1: the year that you know that things are going to

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Speaker 1: be different. So um, just uh that that that alone,

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Speaker 1: that will help in if it happens for me. You know.

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Speaker 1: I just want to come out to each and each

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Speaker 1: and every day and help this team win football games

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Speaker 1: like I know we can. Jordan, thank you for coming on,

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Speaker 1: Bill Safety. Jordan Poyer. We're coming back with more One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Life from Bill's Training Camp, and this is Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. One Bill's Life from Bill's Training Camp. You

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Speaker 1: only got today, Tomorrow and Wednesday left here at training camp. Steve,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna miss this place. I know. We wind all

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Speaker 1: the way down here in the car. These people going

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Speaker 1: on vacation and we're doing we wind all the way

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Speaker 1: down going in the car. We're gonna miss it. Do

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Speaker 1: you notice the families on vacation with the topper on

515
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Speaker 1: their bikes on the top of the kayaks strapped to

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Speaker 1: the roof. Yeah, addition poles packed in there. But that's

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Speaker 1: try my clubs, golf clubs in the car, just to

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Speaker 1: give me the illusion that maybe I'm gonna, you know,

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Speaker 1: play golf. Yeah, you can hear them when you go

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Speaker 1: over bumps, you know, irons kind of welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the show, John Murphy, Steve Tasker here training camp practices over.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer is great. What a man. What an advantage

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Speaker 1: it is to have guys like Poyer and Mica and

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Speaker 1: Lorenzo three we're going into their third year on this defense.

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Speaker 1: You don't want an advantage. I wish we had. I

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Speaker 1: wish the offense. I can't wait. Let me say, until

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Speaker 1: the offense gets to that stage where it's same offense,

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Speaker 1: same coordinator, and mostly the same cast of characters. You

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Speaker 1: don't want to advantage. What a great advantage that is.

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Speaker 1: It's great, But you gotta know too that they're gonna

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Speaker 1: this offense is gonna be markedly better than it was

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Speaker 1: a year ago. I hope, so mostly just because of

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Speaker 1: josh Um, I hope, just making better decision And you

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Speaker 1: see him out there on practice field. I'm seeing him

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Speaker 1: making throws that I can't remember him making during the

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Speaker 1: regular season last year, on time, on rhythm over the

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Speaker 1: middle of the field, short passes, long passes, dump off

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Speaker 1: screen pack. Everything just seems to be and Jordan Poor

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Speaker 1: you're alluded to. It's just like on a rhythm, you know,

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Speaker 1: remember last year he dropped back, take a look, tuck

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Speaker 1: it and then move out of it, you know, start running,

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Speaker 1: you know, and and it just seems like this is

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Speaker 1: functioning so much more as an offense that we've seen

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Speaker 1: around the national football The other teams run and you're

545
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Speaker 1: having to defend it and the quarterbacks back there and

546
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Speaker 1: if if he makes the right decision, you lose. You know,

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Speaker 1: this offense is looking like that now for with Josh

548
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Speaker 1: Allen at quarterback, and it's it's a lot different. I

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Speaker 1: hope so um one thing that is holding them back,

550
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Speaker 1: holding the team back right now, our injuries, right we

551
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Speaker 1: talked about it la Adrian Waddle. The report is he's

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Speaker 1: out four or five months. Adam Schefter says that E J.

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Speaker 1: Gaines not practicing a growing hip. Micah Hyde was there

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Speaker 1: in a red jersey today, a limited contact practice from

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Speaker 1: Micah Hyde, Spencer Long, John Peliciana. We're back, but look,

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Speaker 1: you gotta worry a little bit about the injuries. The

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Speaker 1: three tight ends who are on the top three tight

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Speaker 1: ends And that gets us to our Twitter poll to name.

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Speaker 1: We want to hear from you what you think about this. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: when you have the injury, should start worrying about depth.

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Speaker 1: And our question is at depth at which Bill's position

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Speaker 1: group concerned you the most? At this point, we're only

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Speaker 1: ten practices in we are still what I say, four

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Speaker 1: or five weeks away from five Five weeks from yesterday

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Speaker 1: is the opening game of the season, so there's time

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Speaker 1: to pull all this together. But at this point ten

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Speaker 1: practices in five weeks away from the start of the

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Speaker 1: regular season. Depth at which Bill's position group concerns you

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Speaker 1: the most? That's our Twitter poll. Why don't you bring

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Speaker 1: us up, let us know what you think. Eight oh

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Speaker 1: three oh five fifty toll free one eight eight a

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty, or you can you can

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Speaker 1: send in a tweet, we might read it on the

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Speaker 1: air in the tweet sheet, or you can vote in

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Speaker 1: the Twitter poll. Depth at which position group concerns you

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Speaker 1: the most? On the Twitter poll six votes in already

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Speaker 1: fifty seven percent of you say offensive line. I get it,

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Speaker 1: I see it. Twenty nine percent of you say tight end,

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Speaker 1: ten percent say linebacker, four percent have somebody else at

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Speaker 1: something in some other position group in mind. I would say,

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Speaker 1: you know, I would vote tight end, but I get it.

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Speaker 1: For offensive line, I don't think it. Look and that

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Speaker 1: the fact if Spencer Long and Feliciano were out today,

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Speaker 1: I would vote offensive line, but they were both back

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Speaker 1: in today. But I'm worried about tight end Steve top

586
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Speaker 1: three guys are gone at that position, and you know,

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Speaker 1: Tommy Sweeney is getting a great chance to win the

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Speaker 1: roster's spot, but I don't know. I worry about that

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Speaker 1: position group. I think one of the things that puts

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Speaker 1: offensive line at the top of the list, and if

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Speaker 1: I was going to do that, is the fact that

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Speaker 1: they still haven't figured it out yet. They haven't figured

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Speaker 1: out who's gonna play, let alone, who's the best, who

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Speaker 1: the best players are, and how they mix together, what

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Speaker 1: positions they're going to be at. I think there's still

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Speaker 1: a lot more work to be done on the offensive line,

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Speaker 1: and frankly, the offensive line, I don't want to ever

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Speaker 1: see the depth on the offensive line. I want those

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Speaker 1: five guys in there, and I want them in there

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Speaker 1: all the time. We have had that luxury here yet

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Speaker 1: and doesn't look like it's going to happen for the

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Speaker 1: foreseeable future. I mean, these guys are, you know, much

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Speaker 1: more still in the concussion protocol, Spencer Long in and out,

604
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Speaker 1: lost Ladrian Waddle. So yeah, they've got some stuff that

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Speaker 1: they've got to figure out, and they don't have the

606
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Speaker 1: bodies to figure it out yet. Yeah, and the figuring

607
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Speaker 1: out makes it tougher when those bodies out here. Sean

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Speaker 1: McDermott talked about it today when he met with the

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Speaker 1: media before practice. The specific question was, is it more

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Speaker 1: difficult to make evaluations on the offensive line when your

611
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Speaker 1: offensive line is banged up? Some of them not here.

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Speaker 1: Here's what McDermott said in response. All we can do

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Speaker 1: is evaluate the combinations that are out there. That's really

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Speaker 1: what we do, Chris, and can't evaluate the combinations that

615
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Speaker 1: aren't out there because those are hypotheticals at this point

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Speaker 1: and that's not healthy. So those guys that are out

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Speaker 1: there battling their butts off, like I mentioned about the

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Speaker 1: tight end group the stadium the other night, I love

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Speaker 1: the mental toughness, physical toughness of the guys that are

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Speaker 1: out there because some of those guys are double dipping

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Speaker 1: with reps and that's not easy to do this time

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Speaker 1: in training camp about last year a couple of days

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Speaker 1: of the opportunities that he's had. Yeah, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: you look back at, like I've said before, some of

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Speaker 1: the some of the signings, you are more celebrated than others.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day, It's always interesting to

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Speaker 1: see which ones are the ones that turn out to

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Speaker 1: be the pivotal ones. And whether that you know it

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Speaker 1: turns out to be the case in this situation remains

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Speaker 1: to be seen. But I do like the way he's

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Speaker 1: approached camp. He approached He's approached every day with a

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00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: good attitude, positive energy, and um like he's like he's

633
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Speaker 1: thankful to be here. So you are concerned about offensive

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Speaker 1: line depth, I think it's safe to Saint John McDermott is.

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Speaker 1: And let's keep in mind, as I said, we're only

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Speaker 1: ten practices in the training camp and we are less

637
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Speaker 1: than just under five weeks away from the first regular

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Speaker 1: season game. There's time to get this sol. But it

639
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Speaker 1: is worth saying that, and some of you on on

640
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet have said this as well. We asked

641
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: the question depth at which position group most concerned you

642
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: were about the bills. The tweet sheet is brought to

643
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers of the

644
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. On the tweet sheet from Dinah says, earlier

645
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: in camp, I would have had a different choice, but

646
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: with all the injuries and last year's problems, I have

647
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: to go with the offensive line. It seemed like we

648
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 1: had more than adequate depth. Now not so much. That's fair,

649
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: that's fair assessment there, Steve. Yeah, we're kind of listen,

650
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: we're prisoners at the moment right now. We got no

651
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: games to think about. We got, you know, this preseason game.

652
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: So it's not about winning. It's about looking at the team.

653
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: And we can't look at them when they're standing there, hurt. Uh.

654
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: And this offensive line has been was the bugaboo for

655
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: the team. I buggaboos that a real word. By the way, Um,

656
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: we'll let it go. I'm just thank the judges say, okay, okay.

657
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: It's it's been an issue from all through last year,

658
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: and it has been the focal point of the offseason

659
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: this up to this point, and now yet again there's

660
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: a setback that sets the entire process back a little bit.

661
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: And it's pretty frustrating for you and me, let alone

662
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: the players and the coaches trying to figure this out

663
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: going into a game on Thursday, even though it's a

664
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: preseason game. Yeah, that's it's still an issue. And I

665
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: think whether no matter what the choice was, I mean,

666
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: the offensive line for me, is still the overriding issue.

667
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: The entire offseason until they have their five and they

668
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: start playing real games that count in the standings. That's

669
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: the only time we're ever gonna know whether all that

670
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: we've talked about and worried about, and all the things

671
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: we've worried about that didn't happen, and all the stuff

672
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: we didn't worry about that did happen. You know, you

673
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: got to see the results and that right now, it's

674
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: still even after all the effort has been put into,

675
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: it is still the top of the list. I think

676
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: for most of us at this point, ten practices into

677
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: training camp, most of us were hoping that we'd have

678
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: a semblance of a first unit offensive line, and maybe

679
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: they do Dawkins at left tackle, that's been pretty standard

680
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: at Quentin Spain at left guard when he's healthy. You

681
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: would think that Mitch Morris jumps right back in as

682
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: a starting center. Now they got FOURD at right guard.

683
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: We'll see along that lasts and tie and Secki's over

684
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: there right tackle. But I think ten practices in most

685
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: of us hope that that would be said and maybe

686
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: we'd begin to see how that death plays out. Think

687
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: back to a week ago today, Steve on our show,

688
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,479
Speaker 1: Adam Kaplan from at Serious x MNFL Radio was raving

689
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: about the offensive line depth. He said, you got eleven

690
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: players here, you're eleven players deep. Your backups have backups.

691
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: Well that's been depleted now with some of the injuries,

692
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: and so I get it. I get why people would

693
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: be concerned about that. I gotta remember too, listen to myself.

694
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: At the beginning of training camp, I said, and I

695
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: still believe this. They're not going to decide on the

696
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: five offensive line till game week week one of regular season.

697
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: I don't know it's gonna go. We're not gonna know

698
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: until the very end of it. They're gonna take all

699
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: the time and every rep they can. Now, certainly some

700
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: guys may separate themselves and we may get a set

701
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: of five guys that we see it, and we see

702
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: it every day with Josh Allen, with Cole Beasley, with

703
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: John Brown, with all the tight end ends, with LaShaun

704
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:05,239
Speaker 1: McCoy in there, and Josh we're gonna see him. We'll

705
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: probably get an idea, but we're still gonna know there's

706
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: got to be at least they're gonna be three other guys.

707
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: They're gonna be in there. I don't think we're gonna

708
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: know the eight guys on the roster until they make

709
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: the final cuts, and hopefully we'll have a really good

710
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: idea before them. But I really think they're gonna take

711
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: their time, and this makes me think that even more

712
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,479
Speaker 1: these injuries force it would take more time. One more

713
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: from the tweet sheet from Max. We asked the question

714
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: depth at which position group most concerned you? Max answers,

715
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: I voted other with how good John Brown and Cole

716
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,959
Speaker 1: Beasley have looked at would concern me the most if

717
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: they went down. Josh Ellen needs his weapons, healthy, available

718
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: and able to separate, not too worried about backup or

719
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: not too worried about tight end because I'm impressed with

720
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: Tommy Sweeney for depth. Okay, Tommy Sweeney for depth. Who's

721
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: going to start? Sweeney, looks like you're number one tight

722
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: end right now based on who's who's not hurt, and

723
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: we await you know, hamstring injury for Dawson Knox, he

724
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: was going to be number one, and we await his return.

725
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: Crom as one practice to his credit this training camp.

726
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: You know, Tyler Cross's gonna that injury is gonna take

727
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: it into the regular season, So I would worry about

728
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: tight end. That would be nine. Number one depth at

729
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Though, it's an interesting question, and I'm trying

730
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: to think, you know, Beasley and John Brown and who

731
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: Zay Jones top three? After we've talked about this a lot,

732
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: I would I would put a small question mark beside

733
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: Robert Foster's name. Now I don't know that he is

734
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: locked down his spot. I would. I think Isaiah McKenzie

735
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: has had a good camp so far ten days, and

736
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: Andre Roberts is going to be on this roster as

737
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: a receiver and a return specially specialist. So Ray Ray

738
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: mcclouds had a pretty good camp. I'm not saying he's

739
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: a lock for anything, but it's just my evaluation. Steve,

740
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: what about you? Now I agree with you, and he's

741
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: right the depth. If you lose Cole Beasley and John

742
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: Brown this if you both those guys all of a sudden,

743
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: this receiving corps looks worse than the one they went

744
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: into season with last year. Yeah, he's right the depth there.

745
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: You're depending on a couple of guys at the top

746
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: of this roster to really carry the load this season.

747
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: If anything happens to them. I'm not sure that there

748
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: isn't a significant drop off and the depth just isn't there.

749
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: And I think it's a really good answer on the

750
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: tweet sheet, you know, for if anything concerns you and

751
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: you think about two the key guys at every position,

752
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: certainly and if and if you're gonna put those guys

753
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: up there and the wide receiver, you're right, there's a

754
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,719
Speaker 1: lot of guys behind those those two guys. Cole Beasley,

755
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: John Brown, you don't know that you're gonna hang your

756
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: hat on those guys if they're expected to carry the

757
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,959
Speaker 1: load for Josh Allen and I think it's a it's

758
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: a legitimate concern. Um, we have no reason to think

759
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: that that's going to be an issue. But well I'll

760
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: go forward. But if you Beasley, John Brown, Za Jones,

761
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: Andre Roberts votes four, I think are But Andre Roberts,

762
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: you're thinking of as a return guy and the fifth

763
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: or sixth receiver, Yeah, right, he's and he has shown

764
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: some things too, There's no question about it. He's shown

765
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: some good receiving skills, no question about it. But then

766
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,719
Speaker 1: you're down, you're like we were your ISAA Mackenzie Robert Foster,

767
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: Victor Bolden, Ray Ray McCleod has played okay, but then

768
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: you're looking at Duke Williams, David Sills, Nick Easley. Yeah,

769
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: and it's hard to think about yourself going into a

770
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: season thinking you're gonna get sixteen games out of those guys.

771
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: I hear you, what do you think depth at which

772
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: Bill's position group concerned you the most? Let's hear from

773
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: your phone lines open eight oh three five fifty toll

774
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

775
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: Let's take a few calls in here. Steve calling from Buffalo. Hi, Steve, welcome,

776
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: you're on the air with us, all right, thank you. UM.

777
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: I'm concerned with Tighten because we have a tight end,

778
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 1: even though if he was number one on if he's healthy,

779
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: we have a tight end that we got a tight

780
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: end that never scored a touchdown in college and I

781
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: don't think he had a thousan yard season or or

782
00:34:55,680 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: are a specificant yardage season you're talking about now, Dawson Knox. Yeah,

783
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: but he couldn't do it. Wouldn't that put a lot

784
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 1: of pressure on him to actually having doing that for

785
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 1: the first time in the NFL? I mean that's gonna

786
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: be I think that's gonna I hear Steve, well, let yeah,

787
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: let me respond, and I think you make you raise

788
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: a decent point. But here's the thing about Dawson Knox.

789
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: You got to look at where he played. He was

790
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: at Old Miss when they were loaded with top flight

791
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: wide receivers. That's where the ball was going. Dawson Knox

792
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: was not a featured member of that group. And if

793
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: you've seen Dawson Knox out here, which Steve and I

794
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: have had the luxury you're doing, or seen him, uh

795
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: and more accurately at you know, at one Bill's Drive,

796
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: or if you talk to people Dawson Knox, I still

797
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: can't get over. Jim Nagy, the executive director of the

798
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, h talk talking to us about three weeks

799
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 1: ago about Dawson Knox, saying, hey, we thought he had

800
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: the same skill set as Iowa tight end uh t

801
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: j Atkinson. He said, Now, you didn't add a production

802
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: because the ball didn't go his way, but we thought

803
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: the same. So yeah, it's potential. It's he certainly doesn't

804
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: have the production that you would look for, but he's

805
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: a third round pick, which makes it not a risky

806
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: pick and a guy who's looked good. I really think

807
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: not even Dawson Knox around except for a practice or two,

808
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: has been a problem here. I wish he was here, Steve,

809
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: he's missing valuable reps. Yeah, I think not just Dawson Knox,

810
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: but also Tyler Croft. He's a guy the Bills went

811
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: out and signed in free agency. Who's who's you know.

812
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: He's a six six two forty six. K's a five

813
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: year guy who was playing in Cincinnati and I and

814
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: I've covered him and I had high hopes for him

815
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: coming in and spreading his wings. That's another guy that

816
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: is added into that depth mix it. He's gonna be

817
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: back on the field sometime and it's gonna be interesting

818
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: to see what he brings to the table, no question.

819
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, the depth that tight ends being tested. But

820
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: I think from what I've seen, Murph and you too,

821
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: I think I like what I've seen from the guys behind.

822
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: Even Tommy Sweeney had a good day to day. Dawson

823
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: Knox when he was out there playing, he looked really,

824
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: really capable both in the run and the pass. Uh.

825
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: Then you've got veterans behind. Lee Smith is a blocking guy.

826
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: No question about it. He's limited in the passing game.

827
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: But you know, if you want to tough nose, hard nose,

828
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: tight end, that's the guy. And then you've got Towbridge

829
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: and Croom, who's got a pulled hammy. So I think

830
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: the depth is there, even though it's been depleted by

831
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: three of the top guy. The top three guys on

832
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: the roster have been chopped off the top of the roster.

833
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: Now you're down to the fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh guys. Well,

834
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: they have numbers. They have eight tight ends, but how

835
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: many of them are legitimate quality depth I don't know. Well,

836
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: they've played well to this point from and that's all

837
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: you gotta go. Sweeney has played, has played good, and

838
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 1: so have well when when we saw him, no question,

839
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: the guys that we that are hurt, but the guy

840
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: was looking at who was the guy was looking at?

841
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: There was Oh, Keith Towbridge from Louisville has had some moments,

842
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: not just uh Friday, but also today after the weekend.

843
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: He came in. I like what I've seen from him,

844
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: But you know he's gonna have a hard time making

845
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: the raw if all those guys are healthy, be just

846
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: because of the opportunity Steve anything else Steen, No, I

847
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: would just see even if he was on a team

848
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: with if he's on the team with the great receivers,

849
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Speaker 1: if he was really he should be really a good

850
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: receiver too. Like look at Olson. I mean it just

851
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: because you want the team with good receivers doesn't mean

852
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: that you can't be good too. I mean if if

853
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: if it's that, then he's going to leave it all

854
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: up to the receivers, that's showing that he might not

855
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: be a factor. It might be another Peterman situation. He

856
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: might look good now, but who knows when he gets

857
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: into a game, because he hasn't even been fully tested

858
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: in college yet, he hasn't reached a certain zeen him.

859
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: I got you, I got you question about Steve. You're right,

860
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: there's a lot of question marks around him, and we're

861
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: not getting a chance to have those answered until we

862
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: see him play. Early returns were certainly promising, but we

863
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 1: haven't seen enough, right, we haven't seen enough, And even

864
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: in college we didn't see enough. But I know there's

865
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: a lot of people who had a lot of who

866
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: put a lot of faith in what they did see

867
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: of him in his and certainly he has the measurables.

868
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: He's big enough, strong enough, fast enough and all of

869
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: that catches the ball well enough. But yeah, we got

870
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: to see it on the field, and you're right, Steve,

871
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: there are more questions and answers. I know it's only

872
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: an opinion, but again I think it's a good it's

873
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: a valued opinion. A long time professional NFL scout who

874
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: runs a Senior Bowl and he's a scout there and

875
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: assembles talent and looks at all of the college talent

876
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 1: told us on this show three weeks ago Dawson Knox

877
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: had an equal skill set to t J. Hopkinson, who

878
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: was eighth. I think selection in the draft that meant

879
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: something to me that were you there that day? Were you? Yeah?

880
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I remember just saying it. Whoa

881
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: he said it. So look and you're right. He doesn't

882
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: have a ton of production at all, miss, but he

883
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: had good does spring workouts and yeah he's untested. Yeah,

884
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: I'm not counting on him to, you know, propel the

885
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: Bills deep into the playoffs or anything, but I think

886
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: he was a good answer at the tight end, especially

887
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: once Tyler Croft went on and went out and now

888
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: they don't have that answer because Dawson Knox is not practicing. Yeah,

889
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 1: we'll have to wait and see him. And they're there's

890
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: more questions than answers at the tight end because of

891
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: the injuries. But I think, and you talk about the depth,

892
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: the three guys at the top, I mean, smarter guys

893
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: than you and me put them at the top of

894
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: the depth chart. I mean Croom, Knocks and uh uh

895
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: Croft and Croft, Tyler Croft, all three of those guys

896
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: at the top of the depth chart for a reason,

897
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: and smarter guys than you and me put them there.

898
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 1: And we've been watching the others quote unquote the others

899
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: a Trope, Toebridge, Sweeney, Lee Smith, Nate Becker, you know

900
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: all those guys, and I'm just guys, they're they're doing

901
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: pretty good. I mean, nobody's knocking knocking it dead on

902
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: the offense. But there's these guys, haven't. They're not dropping

903
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: balls in it there. They seem to be running their

904
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: rounds right, they're getting some separation. You're ahead of me

905
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,439
Speaker 1: on that. They're they're doing pretty good. But I don't

906
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: know if they're doing pretty good. I think they are.

907
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: I've been watching. I've been I like the what I've seen,

908
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 1: particularly Sweeney. He's getting some opportunities that get other guys

909
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: aren't so um. When the ball comes to you in practice,

910
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: it's because the quarterback likes what he sees. So um.

911
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: That alone says they're not These guys aren't total bus

912
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: But there, let's face it. There the top three guys

913
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: on your rotation are out. Yeah, it's going to test

914
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: your depth pretty quickly. We'll talk more about this. We'll

915
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,959
Speaker 1: take a few more phone calls. Which position groups depth

916
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: on the Bill's roster concerned you the most right now?

917
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: And yes, it's only ten days in. There's no panic

918
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: button around here, is there? No, there's no panic button here.

919
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: We're coming back with more. Come on back One Bills

920
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: Live from Bill's training camp, and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

921
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: I'll go back one Bills Live, Jim Murphy's team tasker

922
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: coming in from our broadcast location. That one Bills. Yeah, Yeah,

923
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: we're camp hey, because I was thinking about the rest

924
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: of the week. We got a good week here today tomorrow, Wednesday,

925
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: right here at training camp, Bill's final practice open practice

926
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: is Tuesday. We'll be here Wednesday to wrap things up. Thursday,

927
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: Game Day, Bills Colts seven o'clock will be doing the

928
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: show at one Bills Driving. Then Friday will ever recap

929
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: a preseason game number one in depth. We'll get deep

930
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: into preseason getting number one. Yeah. Yeah, we'll get to

931
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: the point where, like we're about preseason, will slice and

932
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: dice that one a lot of you know, the thing

933
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to. This is a week here. You

934
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: know what this is like Before every game in the NFL,

935
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: head coach has a little production meeting with the broadcast

936
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: cruise the radio. You and Eric Wood and me and

937
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: Andrew Catalan and the producers and directors for the broadcast

938
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: will be there and he sits down. He gives us,

939
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 1: you know, like a rundown. He says, here's what we're

940
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: planning on for the ones, for the twos, for the threes,

941
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: here's this. I thought I'd give us as much of

942
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: a plan as he can. It feels comfortable with He'll

943
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: tell us what they're thinking about this game. And it's

944
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: always fun because you know, usually they're guards down. They

945
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: know that most of the stuff that he tells us

946
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: is off the record and just for background stuff, so

947
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: it's fun to have conversations with him. It's really the

948
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 1: first casual conversation you have about football with the guy. Yeah,

949
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: drive training camp, and it happens before every game, not

950
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: only in preseason, but also on the regular season as well.

951
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to that. We got a busy week,

952
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: had a busy week. Right here on the show, we're

953
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: talking about the Bill's depth chart and at which position

954
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: group are you most concerned about the Bill's depth right now?

955
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: Ten practices into training camp. Take some phone calls on this.

956
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: Roberta in Rochester on the line, Hello, Roberta, how are you?

957
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: I am great, Thank you. I am actually concerned about

958
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: the offensive line and in particular the center. I mean,

959
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: we've got our highest paid guy out. We've had him

960
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: out since the beginning of camp, and I'm really getting

961
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: concerned if he's going to be, you know, come back.

962
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 1: And I think he's are so important to Josh's I

963
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 1: think he's a real seavy influence on how he plays

964
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: because of all his experience, and I think it's a

965
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: real detriment to have him out. Can't disagree in any

966
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: of that, Roberta. Again, as I said, five weeks away

967
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: from yesterday is the first regular season game, and I

968
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: do think there's an abundance of caution here, Steve, And

969
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: they don't need they don't need Mitch Moore's to practice

970
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: today or yesterday or maybe not even tomorrow. Eventually they will,

971
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: but I think they're being with his concussion history, what

972
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: four in the last five years, they're being cautious. He's

973
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: out there on he appears to be working through the

974
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: concussion protocol. He's not in a dark room with blinders on.

975
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: He's out here. He's out here today running down the side.

976
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: So it's not as if he's you know, not progressing

977
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 1: through the protocol. But it's something to keep an eye

978
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: on for sure. That to me is the biggest bummer

979
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: about training camp so far, bar none. It's even even

980
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: more of a bummer than getting up early to drive

981
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: over here. You know, that worries me. It does worry

982
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: me out. He's an important player to the team and

983
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: he was going to be a steadying influence and a

984
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 1: helpful influence on Josh. And certainly it's no time to panic.

985
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: And I have no I have no concern that he's

986
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: gonna miss any regular season games. But I think you

987
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: know this is But so I think that you know

988
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: puts your level about how well, this camp has gone.

989
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: I mean, certainly there are some minor injuries on the

990
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: offensive line, but his is the most troubling to me.

991
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: But you know, it's like you, I'm it's early, it's

992
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: still I'm not really concerned, but I am bummed. That's

993
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: that's the one that you know, I really wanted to

994
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: see that offensive line come together and come together quick,

995
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: and we're not getting a chance to see it. And

996
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: Mitch Morris is really the main cog of it. One

997
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: more call before we break for the top of the hour.

998
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: Lee calling from Grand Island, New York. Hello, League, go ahead.

999
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: H Yeah, I'm following the same line of thinking you are.

1000
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: Why why are these people getting hurt in uh training camp?

1001
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: It was maybe superficial things that could have been overcome

1002
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 1: earlier with better training, more exercises, things like that. Yeah, yeah,

1003
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: don't believe me. They're looking at it. They'll they're trying

1004
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 1: to and this is a team that's really pretty good

1005
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: at that. There's no real explanation. And the reason Lee,

1006
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 1: the reason guys are getting hurt and they're kind of

1007
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: superficial hurts, it's because they started playing football. I mean,

1008
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 1: that's it. There is no complicated answer. It just happens

1009
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: these guys, and I think one of the things that

1010
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: happens that you can't train for is when your adrenaline

1011
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: kicks in. This is a team that came into training

1012
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,959
Speaker 1: camp with high expectations. There was a lot of opportunities,

1013
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: particularly on the offensive side of the ball, for guys

1014
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: to earn a starting job on an NFL team and

1015
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: have all of their hopes and dreams come true and

1016
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: put together a part of their career that they had

1017
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: always dreamed about doing. There was a ton of guys

1018
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: like that on the offense, particularly on the offensive line,

1019
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: particularly at tighten, and the adrenaline kicked in a little bit,

1020
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: and you can't train your adrenaline. I think that's a

1021
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: little bit about what happened, You know what I mean?

1022
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: I understand? Thanks Lee, Thanks Lee, Thanks for Colin. See.

1023
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: I have a question for you. That hat is it

1024
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: on the table here in front of you? Is for

1025
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: just on displayed for some purpose? You're selling that? What

1026
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: are you trying to do? That's my hat And I'm

1027
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: why are you displaying? Because of the logo on it?

1028
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: It shows Look should I put my visor on the table? Oh?

1029
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 1: I don't know you can if you want. I don't

1030
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: think you'll have the same effect. I have a visor.

1031
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: I have one of those hats, but I prefer the

1032
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: vits are the good ones. You know. This year's the

1033
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: hats are white and I'm not really a fan. How's that?

1034
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: Does that look better? Have my visor here? Yeah? Go

1035
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: ahead to have with Steve's cap his bucket that. Hey,

1036
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: we got a good guest coming up after the top

1037
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: of the hour. Chris Brown Bills Inside or Buffalo Bills

1038
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Speaker 1: dot Com. I'm told Chris has a rant about autographs.

1039
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: H he's an anti autographian something like that. No, he's not.

1040
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: I've mischaracterized Chris's rant. It'll be a good one. Come

1041
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: on back. It's when we return. It's one Bill's Live

1042
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 1: presented by Kalina Health for coming here from training camp.

1043
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: And this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Hello, Bills Radio Network

1044
00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: Stories update those training camp practice number ten in the

1045
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: books for the Buffalo Bills. At training camp closed to

1046
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: the public. The Bills worked on the grass side field

1047
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: here at Saint John Fitcher College, Deely with injuries, especially

1048
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. The Adrian Waddle left yesterday's practice

1049
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 1: on a card he may be out for a while.

1050
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: More on that in a moment. Centator Mitch Morrise is

1051
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 1: still out. He remains in concussion protocol. Offensive lineman Spencer

1052
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: Long and John Feluciana. We're back at practice today. Up front,

1053
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 1: another day at right guard for the starters for second

1054
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: round draft pick Cody Ford. The rest of the unit

1055
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Speaker 1: Dawkins at left tackle, Quentin Spain at left guard, Russell

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Speaker 1: Bondine at center, Ford at right guard, and Tian Seckie

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00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 1: at right tackle. At Oliver spent another day with the

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00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: first unit and the defensive line today three technique, a

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00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: lot of red zone work for the Bills. Today. A

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00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: better day for the offense than the last few have been.

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00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: According to Adam Schefter of ESPN LA Adrian Waddle, Tori's

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00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: quad muscle in that practice yesterday and will be out

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00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: four to five months. Carted off the field yesterday. NFL

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Speaker 1: Networks ian Rappaport says the Bills are going to work

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00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: out offensive lineman Sam Young later today. He spent parts

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00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: of the of three seasons over two eleven through twenty

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Speaker 1: thirteen with the Buffalo Bills, and the Bills welcome to

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00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: visitor at camp today Sabers general manager Jason Botville. Tomorrow,

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00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,439
Speaker 1: final open practice for the Bills here at training Camp

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Speaker 1: nine forty five am here at Saint John Fisher College,

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00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: No ticket required. The Houston Texans put running back Deante

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00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: Forman on waivers yesterday, the Texans third round pick in

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00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. He tore his achilles in November of his

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00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: rookie years, spent most of last year's on pup. Patriots

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00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: and quarterback Tom Brady finishing up a contract extension for

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00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 1: two more years keeps him under contact through twenty twenty one.

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00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck, still on the sidelines for the Indianapolis Colts,

1078
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 1: will not play this Thursday in Buffalo, and Lux says

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00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: there's no chance he will miss the Colts season opener.

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00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: And longtime NFL sportswriter Ton Banks died at fifty seven

1081
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: after attending the Hall of Fame ceremonies in Canton, Ohio.

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00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 1: Bidsen's on the road at Toledo today. First pitch tonight

1083
00:49:50,920 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: at seven o five and that's the sports updat touchdown town.

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Speaker 1: While we're already in now our number two of the show.

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Speaker 1: Here is John Murphy, Chris Brown from Bill's training gave

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00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: another perfect weather day and another good guest. Chris Brown,

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00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: Bills Inside or Buffalo Bills dot Com joins us here. Hello, Chris,

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00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: Thanks coming by today afternoon. We'd like checking in. We do,

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00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: especially when Steve and I are not at practice yesterday.

1090
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: We'd like you to fill us in. Yeah, right, we

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00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: keep fill him in on our Twitter pole. See what

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00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: he thinks about it, because I'm interested to start with

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00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: the Twitter pole because we we've got all these offensive

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00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: line injuries, we got tight end injuries. Um and somebody

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00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: called in said, it's the wide receivers who have the

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00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 1: least depth, because if something hames to Cole Brown, John

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00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: Beasley or Cole Beasley John Brown, you know they got

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00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 1: less than what they had a year ago when they struggled.

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Speaker 1: So what's your take on let me ask a question? Yeah,

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00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: go ahead, depth? At which Bill's position group concerned you

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00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: the most? Chris Brown? It is our Twitter poll. We've

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00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: got eight hundred one votes in so far, and anyone

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00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: can weigh in on this. At which position group does

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00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: that Bill's depth were you the most? So far? On Twitter?

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00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: Fifty eight percent say offensive line, twenty eight percent say

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00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 1: tight end, ten percent say linebacker four percent have something

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00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: else in mind? What say you, Chris Brown, Bills Insider,

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00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. I would go over line really yeah. The

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00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: reason why is because in the ten days of training

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00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: camp practice with the pads on for a good portion

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00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 1: of those, and seeing players like Spencer Long go out

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00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: of this lineup, seeing Quentin Spain miss a day and

1113
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: then come back seeing much Morse out of the equation,

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00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: there is a noticeable drop off between maybe the top

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00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: seven linemen and the guys behind them. And I'm sure

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00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: this isn't the only place where that exists in the NFL,

1117
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: but the drop off there seems more severe in terms

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00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: of talent and ability than it does at the tight

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00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: end position, where you're still getting guys making plays. Tommy Sweeney,

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00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: I think, has had a really strong camp. He's been

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00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: the beneficiary of an inordinate number of first team reps

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00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: due to the injuries to everybody else, but he has

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00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: taken full advantage of it, and he is executing, and

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00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: he is a trusted pass catching option of Josh Allen

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00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 1: or Matt Barkley no matter who he's running with, And

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Speaker 1: so because of that, I tend to lean towards offensive

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00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: line because I think the drop off is greater, and

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00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: to take it a step further, the offensive lines performance

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00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: is going to have a whole lot more impact on

1130
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 1: the fortunes of this offense than the tight end position.

1131
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 1: Are you sure? Yeah, you don't think Josh Allen would

1132
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: benefit from I'm not saying that. I think he would

1133
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: benefit more from competent line play or consistent line play.

1134
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: And when we get as thin as we've gotten on

1135
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 1: the offensive line, I don't know if we can definitively

1136
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 1: say they're going to get that from the group of

1137
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: guys they're throwing out there right now. Here's my argument

1138
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: for this, and see wants a part of the stew

1139
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: but it is the top three tight ends who are missing, right, Yeah,

1140
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: and that I think makes it a problem. I would

1141
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: vote with the twenty eight percent of say tight end,

1142
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: but I can I can understand why people. I just

1143
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: think you can. I think there are ways for Brian

1144
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: Able to work around that issue. Okay, I don't think

1145
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: there's a way to work around the old line issues

1146
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: at hand. Right, You've got to have five guys on

1147
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: the field that can really play, and that's you know,

1148
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: and they've got to play together for a while to

1149
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: reach their potential. Certainly they can get it done if

1150
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: you've got five really good guys up there. But the

1151
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 1: longer they play together, the better they get. And they're

1152
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: not getting any of that, And the players are downplaying it, saying, well,

1153
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: it's not really affecting our fluidity or execution. I asked

1154
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: coach McDermott about it today and he downplayed it because

1155
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: I was saying, well, what about from a coaching perspective,

1156
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: just trying to evaluate some of those combinations that you

1157
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: want to see together to see if that can be

1158
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: your best five And he downplayed that as well, So

1159
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: we can't evaluate the combinations that aren't out there. I'm like, well,

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00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: all right, but I mean I know they're downplaying it,

1161
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: but I gotta tell you I'm uneasy about it at

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Speaker 1: this point. Well, we don't have If we still have

1163
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: people missing from the lineup by the time we get

1164
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: through the second preseason game, I'm gonna be a little nervous. Well,

1165
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna have people missing is because he's gonna be

1166
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: probably hopefully different people missing, you know what I mean.

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00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna run the gamut. I mean, everybody's susceptible. But

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Speaker 1: my question is, let's talk about the guys we can evaluate.

1169
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: Cody Ford started right tackle. Now they moved him down,

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00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: and I agree. I think it's probably one part of

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00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: the plan to try and both guard and tackle. He

1172
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: started at right tackle for training camp. Yeah, and now

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00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: he's the last couple of days has been moved down

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00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: into guard. How's he doing. I liked him better at tackle,

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Speaker 1: really Yeah. He got crossed up a couple of times today.

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00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,720
Speaker 1: He got leveraged, actually got knocked down in the pocket

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00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 1: yesterday once, and then got leveris on a play today.

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00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: Now those are few and far between. I think he's

1179
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: been pretty steady and solid all through camp. I just

1180
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: think he's got the feet to play tackle, and I

1181
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: like him on the edge better. He came around on

1182
00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: a poll today though, and he ruined somebody. I want

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00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: to say he was a linebacker. I can't remember for sure,

1184
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: but he just knocked the guy completely out of the

1185
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: tackle box. Um, you know, that's a play where he's

1186
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: pulling and the guy knows he's coming to fill, so

1187
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: it's not like it's an unexpected block, and he just

1188
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: carried the guy completely out of the play. So the

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00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: ability is there, But I just think he's got the

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Speaker 1: feet to play tackle, and I would like to see

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Speaker 1: him at tackle. Does he have the length to play tackle?

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Speaker 1: Or his arms and legs long enough due to excel

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Speaker 1: at tackle? Because I'm looking at him playing guard today

1194
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,439
Speaker 1: thinking this guy may never come out, he may never go. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I just like I like

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Speaker 1: what I've seen from him at tackle. I don't know

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00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: his arm length off the top of my head, I

1198
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: know it's not thirty six inches. But um, on the

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Speaker 1: right side, I think he can play there. I don't

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00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: know about left tax. But he lets him work Tie

1201
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: and Secki into the starting right and he gets out

1202
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: there too, and Tie and Secky does have let the

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00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: top five guys out there. No, I see, I see

1204
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: where you're going with that. I see where you're going

1205
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: with that. Um yeah, I mean I don't hate that.

1206
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: And if you've got guys, if you have guys that

1207
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: aren't going to be available, and you've got to get

1208
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: the best five on the field, Ford is probably one

1209
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: of your best five. And if it means getting Inseci

1210
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: on because he's better than your next guard option instead

1211
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: of keeping forward a tackle well, then yeah, you do it. Yeah,

1212
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Speaker 1: And here's the thing. I think they start Cody Ford

1213
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: out a tackle, get him out to see if he

1214
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: can do it, give him some exposure. I think they

1215
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: got the plans to move him down inside and was

1216
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 1: at some point anyway, Now him getting crossed up, it

1217
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me. After playing tackle for a week and

1218
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: a half and now getting moved down to guarding for

1219
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: what two or maybe two and a half practices, He's

1220
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: gonna get crossed up in the year to going this,

1221
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Speaker 1: And I think the change was I think the change

1222
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: was accelerated by the injuries exactly. So that didn't help

1223
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 1: him either. But he's kind of handled he's handled it

1224
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: like a pro. You know. Even McDermott said that, you know,

1225
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 1: when he was informed, you know, twenty four hours before

1226
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,439
Speaker 1: the next practice, Hey we're kicking the inside. Get ready

1227
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: for guard? He said. I was ready because I've been

1228
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:59,439
Speaker 1: taking notes throughout the entire spring and through the time

1229
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: here a training camp, in the meetings for tackle and

1230
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: guard assignments. So I'm on the ball. So and I

1231
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: think too it was accelerated because of the because of

1232
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: the injuries. But I think this he could be a

1233
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: good tackle, no question, I think. But I'll tell you this,

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00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: he could be an all Pro guard. He could be

1235
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: an all pro guards. He's got an enormous body. He's

1236
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: got like you said, he's got tackle feet, and he'll

1237
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: get up to the second level. I think if you

1238
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: want to put the guy in his best position, I

1239
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: think it's guard rather than tackle. But like you said, tackles,

1240
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: it's hard to help attack. You need a guy out

1241
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: there that can do it. If you don't have anybody

1242
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: else that can do it, or if he's your best option, yeah,

1243
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: that's where that's where you plug him in. And there

1244
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: are and I'm not saying he is yet. I mean

1245
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: it's a little early for that. There are guys out

1246
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: there who are good enough to play either and play

1247
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: it at a high level. But I'm thinking, man, the guy,

1248
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: the guy is a I think he's a world class

1249
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: guard waiting to happen if if it ends up that way,

1250
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: it may not, but I think he could be a

1251
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: dominant guard. Chris Brown Bills Inside or Buffalo Bills dot

1252
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: Com here with us on our one Buffalo sent at

1253
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: Bill's training camp. You can give us a call you

1254
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: have any questions about this eighth three five fifty and

1255
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five

1256
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: fifty And let me get you back to tight ends

1257
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: for a second. And Steve and I, I don't think

1258
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: we're on the same page with this. Look. I think

1259
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox has missed over a week now, right, just

1260
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: about a week, and I think that's a problem. I

1261
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: think I was perfectly comfortable with Dawson Knox getting first

1262
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: team reps and getting him ready to start against you know,

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00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: on September eighth. But he's out and now I don't

1264
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: know if there's anybody really And I see Tommy Sweeney,

1265
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: I see what he's doing. The rest of them, I

1266
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: don't think or anything special, you know, I just worry.

1267
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's really been It's not a

1268
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: good thing that Dawson Knox has missed as much practice

1269
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: with a hamstring. Any idea when he comes back, no, Mayby.

1270
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: Hamstrings are tricky, and he was out jogging a little

1271
00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: bit today severity, you know of the strain or the

1272
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: poll tear. Well, yeah, and for crom it's the same

1273
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: hamstring that he yanked in the spring, so you know

1274
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: they're going to be extremely cautious in the way they

1275
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: navigate him back to the playing field. He might be

1276
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: clear to play, and then still might wait another week

1277
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: before they put him out on a practice field, let

1278
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: alone in a preseason game. And Croft nobody knows where

1279
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: that is. And unfortunately, it's the same foot that kept

1280
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: him out of games last year in Cincinnati and he

1281
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: had to have surgery on it this spring to correct it.

1282
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: And I think we all know in this league, no

1283
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: matter what team or franchise you're talking about, there is

1284
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: a high rate of recurrence for foot injuries, for receivers,

1285
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: tight ends, defensive backs. It's just the torque and the

1286
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: pressure that they're constantly putting on those feet that lead

1287
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: to it. It just cannot hold up to the strain

1288
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: that this game demands from those players and the decision

1289
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: that their feet have to give them on route running.

1290
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: And that's where the problem lies. And so I don't

1291
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: know where they're going to be with Tyler Croft here,

1292
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: And even if he does come back, how careful do

1293
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: they have to be in terms of managing his reps

1294
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: and not overworking that foot to avoid recurrence of injury.

1295
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: Worried about Tyler Croft, I'm worried about Dawson Knox. I

1296
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: think he's got all he does. Yeah, he's more athletic,

1297
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: he's more he's more athletic. He can run faster. I

1298
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: don't think there's any question about that. So there are

1299
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: certain things that he provides in the passing game that

1300
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: maybe Tyler Croft doesn't in terms of pure speed and separation.

1301
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: So I understand what you're saying. Um, I'm really not

1302
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: terribly worried. Okay, pulled muscle, hamstrings, Yeah, soft tissue injuries

1303
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: you can come back from and be Okay. Broken bones,

1304
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: especially in the feed and yeah, that's that's a mess.

1305
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: That's that's a mess that turns into a chronic issue.

1306
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: I mean, we can we can run down the list,

1307
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: mrth of the recurrence of foot injuries for this organization alone,

1308
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: And you can tell you about John Macargo, you can

1309
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: talk about Ryan Denny, you can talk about Sammy Watkins.

1310
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: I mean, all of those guys had foot injuries here

1311
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: and had a recurrence. You know, Julio Jones. It's not

1312
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: just Yes, it's not just this organization. Julio Jones had it.

1313
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: It's the way I can't think it's the way the

1314
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: guys have to run routes out in the pro. At

1315
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: the pro level, it puts a lot more stress and

1316
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: torque on their lower legs than it does. They don't

1317
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: do it at college like they do it in the pros,

1318
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: and the techniques aren't taught and they aren't expected, and

1319
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: you don't need them to get open at lower levels

1320
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 1: of football. Up here, you gotta do it the right

1321
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: way or you're not gonna get separation. And it it's

1322
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: what happens, man. It Guys put a lot of pressure

1323
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: on their lower legs, their calves, their ankles, their feet,

1324
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: and it shows up in a big way. And that's

1325
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 1: the Croft injury is much more serious than the Croom

1326
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: injury and the and the Dawson knocks injury. Those guys,

1327
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,959
Speaker 1: I mean, they'll be back and we'll start running around

1328
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: and they'll get back into the swing of things pretty quickly.

1329
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 1: Let me, let me change, because I gotta I hate

1330
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: training camp cover. It just deals with injuries. It just

1331
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: it depresses me and it bothers me. And there's a

1332
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: whole heck of a lot more going on out here,

1333
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: right Crown. There was something today that kind of happened

1334
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 1: at Oliver is getting more first team reps to the

1335
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: point where it looks like he is the starter. Now.

1336
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: You know, he was getting sprinkled in the last few

1337
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: days with the first team. Today he was out there

1338
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: front and center, right from the get going team segments. Now,

1339
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: early in practice, they would rotate Jordan Phillips in on

1340
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: the third rep of the series with the first team,

1341
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: and that went on for a little while. But as

1342
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 1: we got later and later into practice, it was Ed

1343
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: Oliver next to Star Latoula on the defensive interior and

1344
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: that did not change. So I think we've seen a

1345
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: shift there in the depth chart, and I think it's deserved.

1346
01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: I think he's kind of earned that. He's made more

1347
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 1: plays in the practice setting than Jordan Phillips has. He's

1348
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: been in the defensive backfield on a consistent basis, and

1349
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: I think he's been better in terms of pass pressure.

1350
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: You and I were talking about this watching practice today,

1351
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips, I think it has had a pretty good camp. Yes,

1352
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna he'll wind up when it's all said and done,

1353
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: everybody's healthy, He'll get forty forty five percent of the

1354
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 1: defensive snaps up front. Right, He's gonna play. He's gonna.

1355
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, Leslie Frasier runs a heavy

1356
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: rotational scheme on the defensive front. That's number one. Number

1357
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: two is when it's first and ten, who do you

1358
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: want on the field three hundred and fourteen pound Jordan

1359
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 1: Phillips or two hundred and eighty pound at Oliver. You

1360
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: want Jordan Phillips on the field if if you're going

1361
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: against a team that's gonna run the ball a lout

1362
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: on first down. So I think he's gonna be on

1363
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: the field a good deal. And I think your splits

1364
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 1: probably where we expect it to be, knowing that it's

1365
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 1: more of a passing league. Sixty Yeah, it's probably sixty

1366
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,439
Speaker 1: ed forty Jordan's but he's gonna get playing time. I'll

1367
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: tell you one of the things I think that from

1368
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: you know, from ten thousand feet up looking down at

1369
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: what they're thinking about the D line and Jordan Phillips

1370
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: and at Oliver that practice on Friday night, the return

1371
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 1: of the Blue and Red. We always talk about at Oliver,

1372
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: you know, being that quick three technique and helping out

1373
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes and the pass rush and you know kind

1374
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 1: of penetrate. Listen what he did in the run game

1375
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: the other night was eye popping. Not that he was

1376
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: in the backfield sitting there waiting on the running back,

1377
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:26,439
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you what, when the play went away

1378
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 1: from him, he was there making plays from behind. The

1379
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 1: guy goes sideline to sideline from the defensive tackle position. Yeah,

1380
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: it was like, wow, look at that. And it was

1381
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: as big an issue for the offense as it was

1382
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: his pass rushing. I don't know if you guys noticed

1383
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: the test that the defensive staff gave him on Friday night,

1384
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: So they had nine plays of goal line at the

1385
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: end of practice live. He was the only defensive player

1386
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: out there for all nine. And because I talked to

1387
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 1: him after and he's like, Lord, have mercy, I was

1388
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 1: out there for every one of those he goes. But

1389
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: it was good. I needed it. So look, I see

1390
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,919
Speaker 1: ed Oliver's I see his development. I see his growth.

1391
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: I think he's one of the top five players in

1392
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 1: camp so far. Right, would you agree with that, Chris,

1393
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: I think he's had a very good camp. Yeah. However,

1394
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 1: you also if you watch COSI see his his liabilities.

1395
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 1: He can get engulfed by big double team man when

1396
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: he's double team but that's a liability if he's out

1397
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: there too much, Well are you? You can't double team

1398
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: everybody up fry, you know. So if you want a

1399
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 1: double team the guy that's penetrating, Okay, Star can get

1400
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 1: there too. Start at a sack today, nice play man.

1401
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: He was down in the red zone and uh, he

1402
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: actually actually beat Cody Ford on the play. He turned

1403
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 1: Cody Ford sideways and just sliced in, you know, with

1404
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 1: a rip move. And he was on Josh Allen in

1405
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 1: a second. And uh, even Coach Tierlink was like, yeah,

1406
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: why dog and all he's always yelling at his guys,

1407
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: like in a positive way, and uh, that was the

1408
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: fastest win I may have ever seen. Star Lotulo I have. Um,

1409
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 1: so you want a double ED, that's fine. Stars no

1410
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 1: slouch and neither of those two ends. That's really part

1411
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 1: of their job description. He's either Ed or Star. They

1412
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 1: somebody's got to be doubled down there, and they've got

1413
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: to demand. And when you get a guy down there

1414
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 1: they can do that, everybody else benefits, and particularly if

1415
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 1: they don't do it every time and they start having

1416
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: to pick and choose between Star and Ed or even

1417
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips, I mean, any of those guys, but that's

1418
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: part of their job description, is to soak up offensive lineman,

1419
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: particularly in the run game. It's not so much to

1420
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 1: make cat tackles with Chris Brown, Bills Insider, Buffalo Bills

1421
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: dot Com a few minutes stuff with Chris before we

1422
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 1: came out. We're talking on a commercial break, And you

1423
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 1: were here yesterday and we were all there Friday night.

1424
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 1: I thought the offense had a rebound day today. I

1425
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: thought they played okay today. May Yeah. I mean they

1426
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: had the benefit of being in the red zone, which

1427
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: tends to favor the offense to a certain extent. But yeah,

1428
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 1: there were some nice plays made there. I liked what

1429
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 1: Tommy Sweeney did down in the red zone. Duke Williams

1430
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 1: flash there with the second unit finally on a nice

1431
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 1: fade pass. Uh, you know, boxed out defensive player even

1432
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 1: though there was tight coverage, made a play on his

1433
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: back shoulder for a touchdown after it, yep, And I

1434
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: talked to him after practice about it, and yeah, and

1435
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 1: he said, no, that's just me playing my game. And

1436
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 1: I think he's trying his best to be humble because

1437
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,919
Speaker 1: he knows even though he lit the CFL on fire

1438
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 1: last year, that he's a guy on the outside looking

1439
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 1: in and he knows he's got to make the most

1440
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 1: of every rep that he gets. And he did that

1441
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 1: in improved fashion today. And I asked him, as look,

1442
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 1: you're working with Barkley a lot. I said, what's kind

1443
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: of the feedback from him, because Matt's really good about

1444
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:43,919
Speaker 1: kind of counseling young receivers or inexperienced receivers. And he said, well,

1445
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 1: he was just telling me, you know, know what you're doing,

1446
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 1: know what you're doing. That's not the first time I've

1447
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 1: heard that about Duke. He's got to master this scheme.

1448
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 1: And he said, yeah, And you know, the way I

1449
01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: approach it is, if I'm going to make a mistake,

1450
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it one hundred miles an hour. He's

1451
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 1: not going to slow down his play to think. He's

1452
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 1: just gonna have a you know, an ID in mine

1453
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 1: before the snap and he's gonna go run it. And

1454
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 1: if he screws up on a site adjust or something

1455
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 1: else or an option route, he's like, I'm doing it

1456
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: one hundred miles an hour. That's the way I got

1457
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 1: to do it. So you know, I don't know if

1458
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna be enough. I think he's got to have

1459
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,600
Speaker 1: a monster preseason to crack that receiving corps for a

1460
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: spot on the fifty three man roster. And he's got

1461
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: to turn it up in a hurry, because even though

1462
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 1: this offense does need size at the receiver position, I

1463
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 1: don't know that he's done enough to this point to

1464
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 1: justify unseating somebody else. Well, here's the thing as well,

1465
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:41,759
Speaker 1: and we've been talking about this a little bit today,

1466
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 1: for the first time, that there's an ebb and flow

1467
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 1: in training camp. And you'll see a guy like like

1468
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 1: Ray Ray McLeod who's coming he's kind of splashed a

1469
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 1: little bit here in the first week and a half

1470
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 1: a camp, and by the time you get to the

1471
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:55,640
Speaker 1: second preseason game or third preseason game. I'm not I'm

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01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 1: just using him as an example. I'm not saying this happen.

1473
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 1: They kind of go away and a guy who you

1474
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: haven't seen very much in training camp, all of a sudden,

1475
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:04,600
Speaker 1: he starts to make a couple of plays on a

1476
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 1: consistent basis later in camping, and guys who start out

1477
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 1: slow and finished fast tend to make the team more

1478
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 1: often than guys to start fashion finish slow. I think

1479
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some of that in this receiving Roberts.

1480
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 1: There's an example of that. He should not get off

1481
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 1: to a good start last year in camp, then the

1482
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:23,600
Speaker 1: preseason games hit and all of a sudden he was

1483
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 1: making plays and person and this is just my personal opinion.

1484
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 1: I think Robert is one of those guys that you

1485
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 1: call a gamer, not a guy that's gonna light it

1486
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: up in practice. But when the lights come on and

1487
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 1: the game is being played, whether it's preseason or regular season,

1488
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's showing up and he's making plays.

1489
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:41,520
Speaker 1: And so I know there was a lot of consternation

1490
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 1: about Robert not flashing enough in the first week at

1491
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: camp and what have you. Let's just wait a little bit.

1492
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 1: Let's wait a couple of preseason games and see if

1493
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 1: we see him show up the way we know he can.

1494
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 1: I got one guy who I thought he had his

1495
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: best practice of the ten so far today, Tyree Jackson.

1496
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 1: You're like me, you're hanging around Buffalo, people always ask

1497
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: you about the ub kid. It's been rough, you know,

1498
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 1: to come up with highlights from him, well so rare,

1499
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 1: And today he got a bunch of red zone reps

1500
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 1: and got to run, got to run a two minute drill. Also,

1501
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 1: they basically gave him forty nine seconds on the clock

1502
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: with one time out. Made some plays, moved the team

1503
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 1: down the field, didn't get to the end zone or

1504
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 1: in field goal range, but made some good plays you know,

1505
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: along the sidelines to allow his receivers to get out

1506
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 1: of bound. Stop the clock. Um, so you know, it

1507
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't a bad series, even though it wasn't

1508
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,560
Speaker 1: a successful one in terms of putting the points on

1509
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 1: the board. But yeah, they're they're giving him a little

1510
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 1: more rope here. I think they know that, you know,

1511
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 1: this is a kid that they have to get ready

1512
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 1: for some preseason games because we're going to be playing

1513
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 1: in the second half a good deal. So get him

1514
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: some reps so he at least feels somewhat comfortable with

1515
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 1: the guys he's working with out there. He's also had

1516
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 1: some issues where sometimes feel like he's haven't heard trouble

1517
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 1: getting getting a snap ye changed and he's almost looked,

1518
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: you know, like wow, what do you you know, Like

1519
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 1: he's got a mental block here for men, you know

1520
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like he's he's pressing too hard, trying

1521
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 1: to do too much. But today it seemed like he

1522
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 1: finally got to a point where he took one deep

1523
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 1: breath and said, okay, you know, let's let me play

1524
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 1: for a minute, and he did a lot better. Yeah,

1525
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 1: and really he shouldn't feel any pressure. I mean, where

1526
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:14,639
Speaker 1: he is on the depth chart is where he's gonna

1527
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 1: end up. You know, he's not making a move or anything.

1528
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 1: So just try to learn every day. Try to improve

1529
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: your consistency every day, whether it's your decision making, your accuracy,

1530
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 1: whatever it is. Well and see where he ends up

1531
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: at the end of camp. But here's where he's sitting though.

1532
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 1: I mean, and this is something I don't know anything

1533
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 1: about it, but to me, this is a team that

1534
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 1: wants to upgrade everywhere. And if Tyree Jackson and they

1535
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: got him for a full training camp and they see

1536
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 1: what he is, and there's a guy out there that

1537
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 1: looks better, and here's let's face at Tyree, Matt Barkley,

1538
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey, Brian Daybole. All of those guys are all

1539
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 1: focused on getting one guy better. And if Tyree Jackson

1540
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 1: can be traded out for somebody who can come into

1541
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: that room and help more to get Josh Allen Better

1542
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 1: gonna make that switch, and that's what Tyree's looking at.

1543
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 1: I only think they keep two quarterbacks anyway, when all

1544
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 1: is said and done on the fifty three, I don't

1545
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: think they're keeping three. So I kind of believe that

1546
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 1: Tyree's gonna end up on the practice squad, continue to

1547
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 1: develop there, run some scout team, and see where he

1548
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 1: is at the end of the year. It's a development

1549
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 1: project that this team has taken on making him an

1550
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 1: undrafted rookie signing. I don't think they want to cut

1551
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,640
Speaker 1: bait at the end of the preseason. I think they

1552
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 1: want to see, let's see how much further he can

1553
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 1: take it. I think you see it through the course

1554
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 1: of the fall, resign him as a reserve, future free agent,

1555
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 1: bring him through the whole process again, and see if

1556
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 1: he can really make some strites. I think it's crazy

1557
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 1: to go to two quarterbacks in the regular season. A

1558
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 1: lot of teams do. It's about half the league, about

1559
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 1: half the lease. After what happened to this team last

1560
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 1: year where they started four different guys, and you're gonna

1561
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 1: go in with two, most teams do. Chris Brown, Bills

1562
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 1: Insider is with US what's your problem this camp? If

1563
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: one one signature element of the two thousand nineteen Bills

1564
01:12:56,439 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 1: training camp has been the amazing connection between Bills and

1565
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 1: players and the autograph line. Right ended, autograph signed was

1566
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 1: getting national plots for his autograph signing. And you come

1567
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: up with that as a negative. Somehow, I didn't come

1568
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 1: up with it as a negative. This is simply an observation.

1569
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,679
Speaker 1: So here we go. So after practice, Okay, after practice,

1570
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 1: I've been watching practice for you know, two hours every day.

1571
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 1: And then sometimes when I'm waiting for some players to

1572
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 1: finish their autograph responsibilities and I'm waiting to interview them,

1573
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 1: I'm observing certain things. No, I'm I'm observing certain things

1574
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 1: that are going on with these autograph seekrets. So I'm

1575
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 1: here to help the show, murf because I am here

1576
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 1: to categorize the autograph seekers. Because there are specific categories.

1577
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so category number one is the formal autograph seeker.

1578
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:48,640
Speaker 1: These are the lengths that people will go to to

1579
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 1: secure an autograph. So you have the formal autograph seeker.

1580
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: For example, Cody Ford's walking up the pathway here early

1581
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 1: in camp, and there is a there is a middle

1582
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 1: aged gentleman in the stands of Grounie Stadium trying to

1583
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,560
Speaker 1: convince Cody Ford to come over for an autograph. So

1584
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 1: he doesn't say hey, number seventy, He doesn't say hey Cody,

1585
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 1: he doesn't say hey, Rookie. He says, mister Ford, mister Ford,

1586
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 1: can you come over and sign an autograph for us please?

1587
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 1: So that's the formal autograph seekers. Okay, that's number one.

1588
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 1: Number two number two autograph seeker is called the butter up. Okay.

1589
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 1: This is a person who will heap enormous amounts of

1590
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: praise on the player they are hoping to get an

1591
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 1: autograph from. I'll give you a perfect example, Okay, Lashawn

1592
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 1: McCoy coming up the blacktop, walk over here by the

1593
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 1: Saint John Fisher field House, and person in the stands, Lashawan,

1594
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 1: you're gonna kill it this year. Two thousand rushing yards babba,

1595
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 1: you know, runs through the whole thing, and then says,

1596
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 1: can you come over here and sign up? You know, like,

1597
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 1: let me heap this an enormous amount of praise on him,

1598
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 1: Let me think he's the greatest football player since God,

1599
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: and maybe he'll come over and and get me, give

1600
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 1: me an autograph. Okay. That's number two. Third one, and

1601
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 1: this one I'm not particularly fond of. Is the guilt

1602
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:12,639
Speaker 1: trip autograph seeker. Okay, Now, what happens here. It's probably

1603
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 1: something you've maybe even experienced with your wife, for example.

1604
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:18,640
Speaker 1: But I'm not going to the guys. You know, you

1605
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 1: got a player coming up the walkway. Maybe he was

1606
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 1: signing over here, right, okay, and guy desperate for autograph

1607
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 1: will say, hey, you're signed over there. You gotta sign

1608
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 1: over here. How can you ignore? Look, I got my

1609
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 1: three year old right here. He's been waiting for you

1610
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 1: for two and a half hours. How could you not

1611
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:40,719
Speaker 1: come over and sign. That's the guilt trip autograph seeker? Okay.

1612
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 1: And then the lord to find out your wife, but

1613
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 1: we'll save that. And then the last one, the last one.

1614
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 1: This is the one I do not. By the way,

1615
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 1: do you have five or four? Four? This is the

1616
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 1: last one, the entrepreneur. Okay. Now I have to give

1617
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 1: a small dose a credit to my son who witnessed

1618
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:00,879
Speaker 1: this at the Return of the Blue and read practice

1619
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 1: right at the end of practice. There's a lot of

1620
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 1: autograph seekers. Okay. He was up in the stands and

1621
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 1: alerted me to this, and then I witnessed it. Okay,

1622
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:13,719
Speaker 1: there was a guy way up in the lower bowl

1623
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 1: and he was hit. He had a bag with him

1624
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:23,839
Speaker 1: full of many helmets. Okay, he was giving kids tenant

1625
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:27,600
Speaker 1: under a helmet and told him to go down and

1626
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 1: get an autograph of two or three players come back,

1627
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:33,600
Speaker 1: and then he was handing them a dollar for doing it.

1628
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 1: He had about forty kids do this for him. Just

1629
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 1: take a helmet down, get an autograph, bring it back.

1630
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 1: Take a helmet down, get an autograph, bring it back,

1631
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 1: give him a dollar, thanks for your time. The entrepreneur. Okay,

1632
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 1: that guy I don't really care for. Well, I salute

1633
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 1: his initiative. I mean, right's getting he's going to get.

1634
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 1: I had not seen that one before. I have not

1635
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:56,760
Speaker 1: seen that one. That was a unique one. And that's

1636
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 1: what kind of prompted me to put this list together.

1637
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 1: Kids normal, the butter up, the guilt trip, the entrepreneur.

1638
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: They have kids on crutches or something that would be

1639
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 1: even worse. And I would welcome callers if they see

1640
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: a different kind of autographer come in. I'm happy to

1641
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 1: add to the list. There there are different ones. But

1642
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 1: what about the selfies having selfies replaced autographs and well, yeah,

1643
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 1: to a certain extent. You know, that would be a

1644
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 1: good question for a player. Would you rather sign autograph

1645
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 1: or take a photo? There's an autograph guy, what would

1646
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 1: you either do? Oh? Selfies I've taken faster. Selfies have replaced.

1647
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 1: It's usually faster too, Yeah, because usually they know how

1648
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 1: to work their phone better than they knew how to

1649
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: work a pin. Did you laugh if you want to true?

1650
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 1: Did you see can't hand you the pin? Maybe that's

1651
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 1: a new one. We call that one the illiterate. What

1652
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 1: it's like they hand you a sharpie pin uncovered and

1653
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 1: they it's almost like they're trying to draw on you.

1654
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 1: They're handed to you with the you know, you hand

1655
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 1: it to them with the handle. In first, I was

1656
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 1: like I'm like this, I'm like, did you presidential candidates?

1657
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 1: Now it's all about selfies. Yeah. There was a story

1658
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 1: in the New York Times last week about Smith Warren

1659
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 1: has it set up after her appearances. She has three staffers.

1660
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 1: One person takes the phone, one person takes every picture,

1661
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 1: one person hands the person their phone back and it

1662
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 1: goes bank bank bank, bang ba. So do they have

1663
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,759
Speaker 1: a designated photograph takers? So what there aren't photo bombs.

1664
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 1: I don't know I'm compromising photo background. I'll bet there's

1665
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:18,680
Speaker 1: part of that too. And it's not you know, this

1666
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 1: awkward posey shooting number nose and they spend you know,

1667
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 1: an hour after every appearance doing that. But it's it's orchestrated. Yeah,

1668
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 1: that's way, that's the way to do it. But it's

1669
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 1: self prevalent these at least for the old guy like me. Um,

1670
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 1: much more prevalent thing. Why do you think that is

1671
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 1: people want to see? Probably that's probably put it side

1672
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 1: by side Steve Tas whatever it is there, you tell

1673
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 1: your tell your listeners and viewers to send in any

1674
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 1: other We got an autograph seeker. They can find what's

1675
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 1: what's coming up on the website. Top three things from

1676
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,600
Speaker 1: Camp today is up there. You know. Well on the

1677
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Speaker 1: video side, we always have the bills minutes and you

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01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 1: know a smattering of highlights from today. There's some good

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01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 1: touchdown passes in red zone, so that would be good

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Speaker 1: to watch, um. And then we've got some feature your

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01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 1: story's coming up here along with some of our pregame

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01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 1: preparation for Thursday nights preseason game, including the five players

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01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 1: to watch excellent. Okay, are you sick of being on

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01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:13,560
Speaker 1: our show yet? Because you're a big part of what

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01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:18,640
Speaker 1: is this? Three camps of camps all day plus we're

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01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 1: gonna do anything down in Greenville or oh yeh yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're on at one pm every day. Oh ok. Chris

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01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 1: Brown Bills Insider. Check him out at Buffalo bills dot com.

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01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 1: Steve and I coming back one Bill's Line presented by

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01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,639
Speaker 1: Collada Health from training camp. This is Buffalo Bills Radio

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01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 1: one Bills Ye from Bill's training camp, John Murphy and

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01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:48,680
Speaker 1: Steve Cancer. We're taking Brown. He's rant about autograph. It

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01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't have rant. I thought he was going anti autograph,

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01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 1: like they make me wait, but he didn't. He had

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01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 1: he had a method. No the cat. No, he's right

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01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:58,639
Speaker 1: about the categories. I've I've seen all of them in action.

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01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 1: Um yeah, I've seen all of them. You've seen it.

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01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 1: You've seen and I really can't think of another one

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01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 1: that has been used. I think they're being replaced by

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01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 1: selfie takers. They are for me, Yeah, they are for me.

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01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:15,839
Speaker 1: I mean I still sign one or two things particularly,

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01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 1: and I think it's still traditional after practice. I mean

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01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,640
Speaker 1: you see Josh taking selfies now. But now it's when

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01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 1: they say there's gonna be autographs, that's what they mean.

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01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 1: There's gonna be autographs, and people are gonna bring stuff

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01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 1: to sign. You're gonna sign it with a pen. That's

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01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 1: gonna get done. And then other times it's like can

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01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:33,679
Speaker 1: I can I take a picture? Right? Mostly time, guys

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01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 1: are better with that than other things. One more day

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Speaker 1: for that Tomorrow ninety five am practiced even I both

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01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 1: at today's practice nine forty five on the side practice field.

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Speaker 1: Let's take you through some of our observations from practice

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01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 1: here today at Saint John Fisher College or players. Spotlight

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01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 1: was on Tommy Sweeney. We talked about them, the tight end,

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01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 1: the seventh round draft pick for the Bills from Boston College,

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01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 1: the second tight end the Bills chosen the draft. I've

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01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:58,560
Speaker 1: I think made it pretty clear about how bum d

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01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 1: I am about Dawson Knoxby and missing all this training

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01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 1: camp time. But yeah, Sweeney has an opportunity thrown his

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01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 1: way and he's taking advantage. I talked to him about

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01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 1: a week ago, actually it was a week ago yesterday

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01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 1: out here at training camp, and he was, you know,

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01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 1: he did not acknowledge that the opportunity was there, which

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01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 1: I get. You know, you don't want to celebrate somebody

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01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 1: else's misfortune, somebody else's injury. But Tommy Sweeney has has

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01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 1: taken advantage. I think he's not great, but he's making plays.

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01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 1: I do think Steve he'll have a lot of work

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01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 1: to do to be a benefit to the run game.

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01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:31,759
Speaker 1: But as a pass receiver, a guy with good hands,

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01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 1: I see it, I see it. I see him getting

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01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 1: open a little bit too, I got it. Yeah he's

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01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:37,640
Speaker 1: I think that's the better part of his game. I

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01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 1: think we had some some thoughts early on that he

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01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 1: was said that he was a pretty good block or two.

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01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 1: We'll have to wait and see, but yeah, he's. You know,

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01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 1: you're gonna start noticing these guys when they get their

1737
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 1: opportunities that certainly they're not gonna not throw the football

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01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 1: to the tight ends during training camp just because some

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01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 1: guys got hurt. And he is. He's out there for

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01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 1: a reason. He signed a pro contract for a reason.

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01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 1: The kids got some physical abilities, he's got some skilled

1742
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 1: he's got some size as well. He catches the ball

1743
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 1: really well. The rest of his game, you know, you

1744
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 1: have to wait and see, But I told you earlier

1745
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 1: in the show. The questions about depth and what you're

1746
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 1: most worried about tight end is not hit for me

1747
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: because I've seen the guys like Sweeney and the rest

1748
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 1: of those guys, Lee Smith and Towbridge and all these guys,

1749
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 1: Becker Nate Becker. They know what they're doing out there,

1750
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 1: and of course there's not a lot of physicality out there,

1751
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:31,680
Speaker 1: so you don't know how these guys are blocking in

1752
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 1: the run game. But in the passing game, there's enough

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01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:37,679
Speaker 1: there to go around, particularly for training camp when until

1754
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 1: these three top guys get back. Tommy Sweeney caught a

1755
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 1: couple of touchdown passes from Josh Allen during the red

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01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 1: zone work, extensive red zone work in today's practice. First

1757
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:48,640
Speaker 1: play in red zone it was ones versus one and

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01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 1: Josh Allen hit a slanting John Brown for a touchdown

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01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 1: a ten yard pass. I was remember that played a

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01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:55,679
Speaker 1: beautiful play right now in front of us. Great catch,

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01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 1: a great throw, and there were a lot of good

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01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:00,599
Speaker 1: thing col Beazley, we watched him a lot today, kept

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01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 1: our secondary spotlight on Cole Beasley interest and I saw

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01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 1: him line up in the backfield down there in the

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01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 1: red zone. So I'm lining up in the slot, and

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01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:10,560
Speaker 1: so I'm lining up obviously is the outside receiver. He

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01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 1: moves around a lot, even in the backfield. They line

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Speaker 1: him up there, Yeah, they're gonna have I think it's

1769
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 1: it's what every team does with their guys who they've got,

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Speaker 1: and Cole Beasley certain that guy at this point of

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Speaker 1: training camp. Cole Beasley the guy they want to find.

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01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 1: They want to make the defense work to find him.

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Speaker 1: If he's gonna line up here, how we're gonna, you know,

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01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:29,600
Speaker 1: if we want to double this guy, we want to

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01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 1: make sure our top guys on him. How we're gonna

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01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 1: do it. If he's lined up here, and then they

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01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 1: move him. Now we gotta switch and gotta make a check.

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01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 1: And then they got to put him in motion, which

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01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 1: he moves to another spot. So they're really making the

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01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 1: defense work hard to keep Cole Beasley at the top

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01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 1: of their coverage list, and they're gonna make him do

1782
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 1: go through some hoops to do that, and that's part

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01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 1: of being an NFL offense. That red zone work took

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01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 1: Steve and I to our answer to the question who

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01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 1: won the day, and Steve's answer is a guy who

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01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:59,559
Speaker 1: caught a touchdown fast and there Chris Brown talked about

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01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 1: it a good post that move for Duke Williams, the

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01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 1: CFL product or caught a touchdown pass uh, and a

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01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 1: huge spike to follow. You got Duke Williams winning the day. Yeah.

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01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 1: And it wasn't just that the touchdown catch there in

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01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 1: the team period or in the red zone pass. It

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01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 1: was also in the one on ones. I watched him

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01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:18,640
Speaker 1: work and some of the other drills I saw him do,

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01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 1: even in uh, even some special team stuff that I

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01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:25,919
Speaker 1: saw him do. Uh. Duke Williams is starting to emerge

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01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:28,560
Speaker 1: as a guy who's given a full effort on the

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Speaker 1: practice field. And he said, you know, he that the

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01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 1: knock on was listen, He's got to learn the system

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01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 1: and be in the right spot all the time. But

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01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:37,639
Speaker 1: he said, I'm going to do everything one hundred mile

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01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 1: an hour, whether I'm right or wrong. And and that's

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01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:41,679
Speaker 1: starting to show up at this point of training camp

1803
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 1: ten days in. He's getting the the you know, the

1804
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 1: feel of what it is in the NFL training camp.

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01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 1: He's he's had a lot of success as a pro

1806
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 1: athlete in Canada and now at this point he's starting

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01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 1: to flash. And today was you know my first reel. Um.

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01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 1: You know, I spent some time watching him because as

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01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 1: he started getting my attention, and that's that's why I

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01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 1: think he won the day. Sean McDermott made a joke

1811
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 1: about two days into this camp about all the smurfs

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01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 1: he had a wide receiver, all the small guys. Duke

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01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 1: Williams is not a Smurf. If McDermott is looking for

1814
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 1: a counterpoint to that size differential, Duke Williams is the answer.

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01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 1: If he can contribute. Absolutely, he's a big dude, and

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01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 1: he's the things that they we saw him do today

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01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 1: like make the contested catching the end zone and some

1818
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 1: of the plays he made in one on ones we're

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01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,600
Speaker 1: also contested catches up high, he brought it down. I

1820
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:32,640
Speaker 1: mean he was battling. And he's doing it against some

1821
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 1: pretty good dbs on the Bill's roster, So that they're gonna,

1822
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:40,680
Speaker 1: if you're right, if they go the direction, if they

1823
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:44,600
Speaker 1: feel like he could contribute and be a constant contributor,

1824
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 1: not only on offense or but on special teams as well.

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01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 1: He does give them something that nobody else gives him

1826
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 1: on this roster, and that's a big time physical wide receiver.

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01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 1: I got an answer to who won the day, and

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01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 1: it's a guy who hasn't really won any day so far.

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01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 1: We get questioned all the time, how does Tyree Jackson

1830
01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 1: you be quarterback? Look? And you know, quite frankly, he

1831
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 1: didn't get a lot of reps, did not get a

1832
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 1: lot of snaps today. He did when they got into

1833
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 1: red zone. He's out there with the threes. But I

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01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 1: got Tyree Jackson is my pick for who won the day.

1835
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 1: I threw two good touchdown passes during that ren zone work.

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01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 1: One did the tight end Kyle Carter, one to the

1837
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 1: wide receiver David Sills. I thought Tyree looked as comfortable

1838
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 1: as he has looked since his camp has started. He's

1839
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 1: had problems with mishandling snaps and not getting good snaps.

1840
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 1: That was not a problem that I saw today and

1841
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 1: look at best, he is a practice squad guy for

1842
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 1: the Bills, you would think, but I thought he finally,

1843
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 1: you know, ten practices in, finally showed that he can

1844
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 1: make plays for this team at this level. I thought

1845
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 1: Tyree Jackson won the day and I was happy to

1846
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 1: see it. Talk more about today's practice. One I remind

1847
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:50,759
Speaker 1: you about Thursday's game. It is Kid's Day on Thursday,

1848
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 1: the Bill's eighteenth Kids Day game when the Colts come

1849
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 1: to town seven o'clock kick off a new airfield. It's

1850
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,679
Speaker 1: the team's eighteenth Kids Saying game. Special ticket pricing starting

1851
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 1: at seventeen dollars, food trucks, activities for kids, and everything

1852
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 1: going on before the game. Great deals on concessions Kids' Day.

1853
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 1: Go to Buffalo Bills dot com for ticket information for Kids'

1854
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 1: Day presented by Connors and Ferris. This Thursday night, when

1855
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 1: the Bills play the Colt. Steve and I coming back

1856
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 1: One Bills Live from Bill's training camp and this is

1857
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Raining. Welcome back One Bills five for Bill

1858
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:32,560
Speaker 1: Training Camp. John Murphy and Steve Tasker back here for

1859
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 1: this week. We're here Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. This week the

1860
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:37,439
Speaker 1: builds are here tomorrow for their final open practice of camp.

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01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 1: Five am. Over the weekend, Steve, I did not watch,

1862
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 1: but I was aware of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

1863
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 1: Did you watch anything on Saturday the entrinment? I did

1864
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 1: not know. I heard a lot of good things about

1865
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 1: the Ed Reid's speech about some of the others. I mean,

1866
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:53,680
Speaker 1: obviously that's it's always a great impression that those guys

1867
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 1: make down they're in a great setup. They do a

1868
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:57,720
Speaker 1: great job out there, Yeah, they do. And it's it's uh,

1869
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 1: it really is a treat for the those guys and

1870
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 1: I and it's it's fun to see the league celebrate

1871
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:07,679
Speaker 1: those great players, um, and great and contributors like Gil

1872
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 1: Brandt and Pat Bowland, those two guys. Uh. And it's

1873
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 1: nicely Johnny Robbins Robins who went in as a safety. Um,

1874
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 1: it's a it's you know, you don't really think about

1875
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 1: the positions these guys played, particularly the guys who were

1876
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 1: the old timers, you know, but so many people are

1877
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 1: affected by, you know, these guys and these these weekends.

1878
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 1: You know, their families and their friends, and particularly guy

1879
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 1: like Ed Reid, who's a first ballot Hall of Famer.

1880
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of contemporaries who really know and

1881
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 1: love and respect the guy Champ Bailey, the same thing.

1882
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:46,599
Speaker 1: You got guys who played with them and against them

1883
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 1: who show up. It's pretty fun. Did you play against Tylaw?

1884
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Speaker 1: You must have, right, I think so? Yeah? Is he good? Early? Yeah,

1885
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Speaker 1: he's all a famer? Yeah, I mean pretty good. I

1886
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 1: think don't you think. I do think he's probably pretty good. Yeah. Hey,

1887
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Speaker 1: there was one real said coming out of it, and

1888
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Speaker 1: is really a friend of of us on our show.

1889
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Speaker 1: Sports writer Don Banks passed away in Canton after attending

1890
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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame ceremonies. Just hired by the Las

1891
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Speaker 1: Vegas Review Journal. He died early yesterday morning. Died in

1892
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Speaker 1: his sleep. He's been around Sports Illustrated. That's how I

1893
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:20,679
Speaker 1: got to know him, sixteen seventeen years or towards Sports Illustrated,

1894
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 1: Saint Petersburg Times, Minneapolis Star Tribune, and he was working

1895
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 1: on the website for the Patriots recently. That's where we

1896
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 1: had him on the show a lot over the last

1897
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:31,639
Speaker 1: few years. A great guest and a great guy. Love

1898
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,679
Speaker 1: running into him at the Combine and Senior Bowl and stuff.

1899
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 1: And we'll miss him down Banks unexpected, tragic, fifty seven

1900
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Speaker 1: years old. Amazing, all right. We got an hour coming up,

1901
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Speaker 1: one more hour ago. Come on back one. Bill's Live

1902
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 1: from Bill's training camp and this is Buffalo Bills Radio

1903
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 1: Bills Radio Network Stories Update. Got the update from Bill's

1904
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 1: training camp where training Camp practice number ten was completed

1905
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 1: just before noon today. Closed to the public. The Bills

1906
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 1: working out on the grass side field here at Saint

1907
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 1: John Fisher dealing with injuries, especially in the offensive line.

1908
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 1: La Adrian Waddle left yesterday's practice on a card he

1909
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 1: maybe out for a while. More on that coming up.

1910
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 1: Center Mitch Moore still out. He remains in concussion protocol.

1911
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Speaker 1: Offensive linemen Spencer Long and John Feliciano. We're back at

1912
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Speaker 1: practice today. Up front, another day at right guard for

1913
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 1: second round draft pick Cody Ford at right guard. Now

1914
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:22,639
Speaker 1: with the starters. The rest of the first unit Dean

1915
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Speaker 1: Dawkins at left tackle, Quentin Spain at left guard, Russell

1916
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 1: Bodine had center, Ford at right guard, Tie and Seci

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Speaker 1: at right tackle, and Ed Oliver appears to have claimed

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Speaker 1: his spot with the first team. A second day for

1919
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Speaker 1: him with the first unit at defensive tackle. A lot

1920
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Speaker 1: of red zone work with the Bills today, and overall

1921
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 1: a little better work from the Buffalo offensive day. Now

1922
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 1: back to la Adrian Waddle. Adam Schefter of ESPN Report

1923
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:44,720
Speaker 1: said Waddle tore his quad muscle and is going to

1924
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:47,400
Speaker 1: miss four to five months. Carted off the field during

1925
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 1: yesterday's practice. NFL Networks ian Rappaport says the Bills are

1926
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:53,280
Speaker 1: gonna work out offensive line and Sam Young later today.

1927
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:55,720
Speaker 1: He spent parts of three seasons with the Bills two

1928
01:30:56,200 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 1: eleven through twenty thirteen. Savers GM Jason Bottrill a visitor

1929
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 1: here at camp today. Tomorrow final open practice for the

1930
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Speaker 1: Bills at training camp nine forty five am here at

1931
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:09,640
Speaker 1: Saint John Fisher College. No ticket required Tomorrow. Texans put

1932
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 1: running back Dante Freeman on waivers the team and out

1933
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:15,720
Speaker 1: yesterday their third round pick in twenty seventeen towards Achilles.

1934
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 1: In November of his Rockey season. Last week, he Texans

1935
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:21,679
Speaker 1: made it clear that Lamar Miller will be the start

1936
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:26,080
Speaker 1: of the season, which put Foreman's future in jeopardy. Patriots

1937
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 1: and quarterback Tom Brady finalizing the contract extension two year

1938
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 1: deal keeps him under contract through twenty twenty one, O

1939
01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:35,799
Speaker 1: pay him twenty three million dollars this year. And Andrew

1940
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:37,719
Speaker 1: Luck not going to play this week against the Bills

1941
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:41,160
Speaker 1: Thursday night, but says he will not miss the season opener.

1942
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 1: He says, I certainly believe I will be ready. That's

1943
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 1: the goal. Luck turns thirty this month, got a calf

1944
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Speaker 1: issue that will keep him out of Thursday's preseason opener. Finally,

1945
01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 1: in the update, the Bisons continue their road trip. They

1946
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:55,680
Speaker 1: play at Toledo tonight at seven oh five, and that

1947
01:31:55,960 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 1: is the sports update. Plasterer textime Tex time to welcome

1948
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Speaker 1: back to training camp. In One Bills Live final hour

1949
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 1: of the show, John Urfett, camdur in the special game

1950
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 1: new to the Bills beat. Happy to abam on the

1951
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Speaker 1: show with Us Martell and Louis Jacques, ESPN's NFL Nation

1952
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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills reporter. We met you the other day. Welcome

1953
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 1: to the show. Good to have you on with I

1954
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 1: appreciate y'all having me on as well. Beautiful day out here,

1955
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 1: and uh happy to talk some Bills. Marcelle has been

1956
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:39,320
Speaker 1: around Buffalo and around the Bills for the last month

1957
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 1: or so. And give us you know, we're around it

1958
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 1: so much we get jaded. Steve and I give us

1959
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 1: your impressions of what you've seen here at camp for

1960
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 1: the first ten practice A well, defensively, it's about what

1961
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 1: we thought it would be. When you bring so many

1962
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 1: players back from a top five unit, you expect that

1963
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:59,040
Speaker 1: kind of cohesiveness and continuity. What I didn't expect was

1964
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:02,120
Speaker 1: for this path rush to figure it out so quickly.

1965
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:04,720
Speaker 1: I think twenty six in the league last year, when

1966
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 1: you draft a guy like Ed Oliver to bolster that

1967
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 1: interior pressure and make life easier for guys like Jerry Hughes,

1968
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 1: Shaq Lawson, Trent Murphy, and I think Oliver has been

1969
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:19,640
Speaker 1: nothing short of disruptive over these pasts. Really since they

1970
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:25,120
Speaker 1: put the pads on. Offensively, Cole Beasley, John Brown, I

1971
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 1: think better is better than advertised. I think their connection

1972
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:33,559
Speaker 1: with Josh Allen has been better than advertised. And his willingness,

1973
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 1: Allen's willingness to not play I guess hero ball so much.

1974
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 1: I know he's used to carrying the team at Wyoming.

1975
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:43,840
Speaker 1: He had to do so several times last season as well.

1976
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:46,680
Speaker 1: And what McDermott, what Brandon Bean wanted him to do

1977
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:50,320
Speaker 1: now is take what the defense is giving you, take

1978
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 1: your checkdowns, take those second and six, second and four

1979
01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:56,720
Speaker 1: kind of situations, and guys like Cole Beasley and John

1980
01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:59,479
Speaker 1: Brown who can separate so quickly. I mean, that's just

1981
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 1: if it's right into the equation. What you said about

1982
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:05,479
Speaker 1: the defense I think is music to the ears for

1983
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 1: Bills fans. Basically, what you're saying is at Oliver is

1984
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:10,720
Speaker 1: a difference maker, right he is, and he's gonna look

1985
01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 1: like one of the bigger steals of this draft. I

1986
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:15,400
Speaker 1: think when it's all when it's all said and done,

1987
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:18,720
Speaker 1: but it's not often you're seeing a guy a week

1988
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 1: or two in his first training camp getting double team

1989
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 1: because he's too much. He's too much on that inside.

1990
01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:27,800
Speaker 1: I think some of that might have to do with

1991
01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:31,639
Speaker 1: the injury to Mitch Morris. I think having that second

1992
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 1: unit in there and not having the cohesiveness that you

1993
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 1: want from your offensive line, that might be that might

1994
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:42,560
Speaker 1: have an effect. But we'll find out probably Thursday and

1995
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:45,360
Speaker 1: throughout the rest of the preseason if it's just is

1996
01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:49,479
Speaker 1: Oliver that good or is the offensive line that trouble?

1997
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:51,800
Speaker 1: I think the troubling thing for everybody else, or maybe

1998
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:53,680
Speaker 1: the thing that makes everybody most impatient, is there's so

1999
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:55,479
Speaker 1: much work has been done on the offensive side of

2000
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 1: the football, and not only do you have now the

2001
01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 1: injuries the offensive line. Don't know how good that's going

2002
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:02,400
Speaker 1: to be, an injuries the tight end, don't know how

2003
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 1: good that's going to be. But every day in practice

2004
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 1: you're getting your head beat in by really good defense.

2005
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:09,519
Speaker 1: So it's hard to get better. Under those circumstances, when

2006
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:12,679
Speaker 1: you've got so many new guys and you're going against

2007
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 1: a really good group that's already established. What do you see,

2008
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:19,160
Speaker 1: as you know, maybe the first sign or if you

2009
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 1: have seen a sign that maybe this offense will be

2010
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 1: a little better than they've were last year, Well, iron

2011
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 1: sharpens iron, and so going up against a unit like

2012
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:30,320
Speaker 1: this defense, I mean, it's gonna make practice tougher, but

2013
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:34,280
Speaker 1: ultimately that's going to make them better. And the most

2014
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:37,400
Speaker 1: positive sign I think and Alan has been Josh Owen's

2015
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:40,479
Speaker 1: been a little shaky over the past few days compared

2016
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:43,120
Speaker 1: to I think how we started camp out. But the

2017
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:46,000
Speaker 1: important thing to focus on, like I mentioned before, is

2018
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:49,439
Speaker 1: his willingness to adjust his play style. That's hard to

2019
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 1: do when a guy's setting his ways, and that's an

2020
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 1: encouraging sign of coachability set two years into his career

2021
01:35:57,200 --> 01:36:00,560
Speaker 1: that he told me last week that checkdown's aren't a

2022
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:03,599
Speaker 1: cop out. Checkdowns are often the smart play on the field,

2023
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:06,160
Speaker 1: and ultimately that's all he needs to do is just

2024
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:08,920
Speaker 1: make the smart plays on the field. The defense. This

2025
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:11,479
Speaker 1: defense is gonna win you games. At the very worst,

2026
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:13,759
Speaker 1: it's gonna keep you win games that maybe you shouldn't

2027
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:16,559
Speaker 1: be all he in this offense needs to really focus

2028
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 1: on doing is not doing anything stupid, Be smart with

2029
01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 1: the ball, be efficient with the ball, and you know

2030
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some good football playing in Buffalo. Marcell

2031
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:29,479
Speaker 1: Luis Jacques, ESPN's NFL Nation reporter covering the Bills. I

2032
01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:32,400
Speaker 1: wonder what your impressions were coming up here about John

2033
01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:37,080
Speaker 1: Brown and how your observations through ten practices met your impressions.

2034
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:38,880
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody knew about him in the NFL, but

2035
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:41,760
Speaker 1: he's smoother, much smoother than I thought. Yeah, I'll be

2036
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:44,880
Speaker 1: the first to admit I think I pegged him. I'd

2037
01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:48,200
Speaker 1: labeled him as a one trick pony. You know, we

2038
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 1: all know he's a vertical threat. We know he's fast,

2039
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:53,639
Speaker 1: and I haven't been able to watch him that closely,

2040
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:57,880
Speaker 1: not like now. My goodness, he's more. He's much more

2041
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 1: than that. The guy can obviously set downfield, but he's

2042
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 1: so smooth and so sharp in the intermediate part of

2043
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 1: the field. And you saw it a little bit today

2044
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:09,920
Speaker 1: with where he went one on one with Trey White

2045
01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:12,599
Speaker 1: and he got the better of trade. Back to back reps.

2046
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:15,439
Speaker 1: And there's a reason why he's been one of Josh's

2047
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:19,120
Speaker 1: consistently favorite targets so far through camp. I don't think

2048
01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:22,960
Speaker 1: it's just forcing chemistry or forcing himself to get used

2049
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:25,080
Speaker 1: to a new receiver. I think, genuinely, this guy just

2050
01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 1: keeps getting open. He's got strong hands, he's got that

2051
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 1: veteran know how, that savvy and you know, if this

2052
01:37:32,200 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 1: is not a fluke, if this can translate to the

2053
01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:37,880
Speaker 1: regular season, John Brown's career highs a thousand and three yards,

2054
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:39,680
Speaker 1: I think he's a good bet to beat that. I

2055
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:41,840
Speaker 1: know we're moving into the first week of the preseason

2056
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 1: and the cults are coming intown. Andrew Luck's not gonna play.

2057
01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:46,560
Speaker 1: A number offensive line for the Bills are gonna not

2058
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:50,320
Speaker 1: gonna play, and everybody. It happens every year. We always

2059
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 1: anticipate that first game, We're finally going to see some

2060
01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:54,559
Speaker 1: live football, and then it turns out and it makes

2061
01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 1: us all sick. You know, what do you expect? And

2062
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:02,160
Speaker 1: I'll give us some of your expectations for Obviously it's

2063
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:04,840
Speaker 1: going to be it's gonna be ugly football at times,

2064
01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:07,360
Speaker 1: but what are your expectations for this preseason for this team.

2065
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:10,679
Speaker 1: I think the first few series where whether the ones

2066
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:14,160
Speaker 1: are in are going to be some sort of benchmark.

2067
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 1: Because Indianapolis is a strong defense and it is a

2068
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 1: rework defense as well. I think that it's a further

2069
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:25,040
Speaker 1: opportunity for Josh to show off that coaching, to show

2070
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:28,519
Speaker 1: off that new mentality. Then beyond that, I want to

2071
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 1: see what some of the receiver depth does. I want

2072
01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:34,479
Speaker 1: to see what does Robert Foster do. He's been pretty

2073
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:36,680
Speaker 1: quiet through camp. What can Zay Jones do as well?

2074
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:40,439
Speaker 1: Rayray McCleod are is all the praise for Ray Ray,

2075
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 1: you know, just camp talk or can it translate to

2076
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:47,680
Speaker 1: the field? Can Condemned Singletary make an impact in the

2077
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:52,320
Speaker 1: run game. There's a lot to watch offensively here. There's also,

2078
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 1: like we said before, can Ed Oliver's show he can

2079
01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 1: do this? He can be so disruptive against a team

2080
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:02,519
Speaker 1: wearing another jersey. So, I mean the first or whatever

2081
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:05,160
Speaker 1: weeks of preseason, those those four weeks, they can be

2082
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 1: hard to watch, like you said, but there are little

2083
01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:12,719
Speaker 1: I don't want to say that that's disappointing you because

2084
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:14,479
Speaker 1: you're you're gonna hit it up for you And we've

2085
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 1: been watching, particularly even for the media, because we watched

2086
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:19,400
Speaker 1: these practices all the time. It's like, Okay, you don't

2087
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:21,280
Speaker 1: cas see some guys it's gonna be And then you're

2088
01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 1: going there and it's like nobody plays well, even the

2089
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:26,560
Speaker 1: guys you expect to, you know, so it's really disappointed,

2090
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:28,600
Speaker 1: I think, because of the expectations we have and the

2091
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 1: and the appera and then you know, finally the drink

2092
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 1: after a long desert or no football. You think guy's

2093
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:36,960
Speaker 1: gonna be great and it turns out it's it's a

2094
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Speaker 1: little sour. That's why I love seeing the tweets. I

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01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:41,080
Speaker 1: love seeing Twitter during the Hall of Fame game. I

2096
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:43,720
Speaker 1: never watched the Hall of Fame game, but like you said,

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01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:46,120
Speaker 1: it's so many people that I think, God, football is back.

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01:39:46,160 --> 01:39:48,680
Speaker 1: And then oh yeah that's right, Yeah, that's that kind

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Speaker 1: of Hey, mar said, let me get you back to

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Speaker 1: the bills. Receiving cord. I think it was day two

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Speaker 1: of camp. Sean McDermot called him smurfs. Um. It sounds

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Speaker 1: like a pejorative term, but maybe not. You've written about

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01:39:59,880 --> 01:40:01,960
Speaker 1: the a little bit, huh. I did it came out

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01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:05,439
Speaker 1: on Friday. I believe that there's a place for the

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01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 1: smurf in today's NFL, and traditionally, when you think of

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01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:13,040
Speaker 1: a wide receiver, you think of guys like DeAndre Hopkins,

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01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:16,880
Speaker 1: like Julio Jones. That kind of builds six three, isn't it.

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01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:19,599
Speaker 1: That's what you think. That's the traditional, you know, number

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01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:23,240
Speaker 1: one receiver. But I think guys like Odell Beckham, Junior,

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01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:28,280
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, Tyreek Hill, who are undersized for the position,

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01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:32,240
Speaker 1: have kind of revitalized that that size, that size point,

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01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 1: because all that matters at receiver beyond catching the ball obviously,

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01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:39,640
Speaker 1: is being able to get open. It doesn't matter how

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01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:42,360
Speaker 1: big and strong you are. If you can't create space

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01:40:42,439 --> 01:40:45,160
Speaker 1: between you and that defensive back, then that quarterback is

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01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:46,960
Speaker 1: going to be more reluctant to get you the ball.

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01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:49,920
Speaker 1: But guys like Beasley, for example, I mean the way

2118
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:52,599
Speaker 1: he sets up defensive backs, it's like he's crossing him up.

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01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:54,280
Speaker 1: It's like he's playing two K and he's got to

2120
01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:56,800
Speaker 1: somebody's got a joystick somewhere up in the in the

2121
01:40:56,880 --> 01:40:59,720
Speaker 1: press box. But he gets open. And that's what he

2122
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:02,479
Speaker 1: told me that it creates that kind of safety blanket

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01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:04,880
Speaker 1: for a quarterback. Now, all of a sudden, with three

2124
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:07,720
Speaker 1: yards of separation, you your throws a little behind you,

2125
01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 1: throws a little lower. You got to adjust to it.

2126
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 1: There's a wider margin of error, and that's what guys

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01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:16,439
Speaker 1: like Beasley, Brown, even McLeod bringing to the table. Let

2128
01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:18,320
Speaker 1: me get your take on some of the I guess,

2129
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:22,840
Speaker 1: look receiving Cord Beasley, Brown, Andre Roberts. I'm not sitting

2130
01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:24,800
Speaker 1: any of these. I don't know if the roster locks,

2131
01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:26,840
Speaker 1: but there they got a good shot. Who else do

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01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:29,080
Speaker 1: you like in that group, Foster? I mean, who else

2133
01:41:29,080 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 1: do you like as far as the you know, numbers

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01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 1: four or five, six, perhaps of the receiving card. Yeah, well,

2135
01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:35,720
Speaker 1: I'm glad you guys. I think that there's there's a

2136
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:39,880
Speaker 1: pretty defined tier of receivers right now. It starts with

2137
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 1: Brown and Beasley. Can't really say which one is number one,

2138
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:44,600
Speaker 1: but doesn't matter. Those guys are going to get the

2139
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:47,960
Speaker 1: most targets this year. So it seems right after that,

2140
01:41:48,120 --> 01:41:50,519
Speaker 1: you've got You've got Zay Jones, You've got Andrey Roberts,

2141
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:53,400
Speaker 1: who's been working his way up that pecking order over

2142
01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:57,360
Speaker 1: the several practices. And then I think there's an interesting

2143
01:41:57,680 --> 01:42:00,640
Speaker 1: kind of battle between between Foster and McLeod as to

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01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:03,720
Speaker 1: who gets on the field more because Foster, just the

2145
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:05,640
Speaker 1: talent is there, the deep threat is there, and you

2146
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:08,519
Speaker 1: saw how good he can be during the latter part

2147
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 1: of last season. It's just that I don't think he's

2148
01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:13,720
Speaker 1: shown that so far in camp. And it could be

2149
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:16,759
Speaker 1: a situation where it's just not working out in practice

2150
01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:18,080
Speaker 1: and then he gets in the game and the light

2151
01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:21,280
Speaker 1: bulb turns on. You see that a lot, but so

2152
01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:24,000
Speaker 1: far and mccleod's just been the complete opposite. He's been

2153
01:42:24,040 --> 01:42:26,759
Speaker 1: great in practice. He will rotate in with the ones

2154
01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:30,360
Speaker 1: he's been with the second team over these past few practices,

2155
01:42:30,439 --> 01:42:32,960
Speaker 1: but he tears the second team up every time he's

2156
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:36,479
Speaker 1: on the field. So it's that's interesting there. And after that,

2157
01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:40,000
Speaker 1: it's kind of the rest of y'all, the David Sills easily,

2158
01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:43,800
Speaker 1: Mackenzie Bolden, even Duke Williams, who had a good catch

2159
01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:46,720
Speaker 1: today but just hasn't been able to make those kind

2160
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 1: of splashes so far. We've talked about this a little

2161
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:50,960
Speaker 1: bit today, and at ten days in you start to

2162
01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:53,560
Speaker 1: get guys who you look back and to take the

2163
01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:55,960
Speaker 1: whole of the first week practice and you kind of

2164
01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:58,479
Speaker 1: chunk it together. There are guys in every camp and

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01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 1: you've seen some of these camps before. Guy comes out

2166
01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:02,800
Speaker 1: early and gets out of the gate real fast, and

2167
01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:05,519
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden in the second third preseason

2168
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:09,120
Speaker 1: game kind of disappears and the opposite guys who takes

2169
01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:12,840
Speaker 1: him whala, either particularly young players like in Easily or

2170
01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:14,479
Speaker 1: a Sills or one of these guys that comes in,

2171
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:17,640
Speaker 1: even a Duke Williams who's been in Canadian League. They

2172
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:19,600
Speaker 1: come in, they're trying to figure this thing out a

2173
01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 1: little bit and they kind of feel their way in

2174
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:22,519
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they say, wait a minute, now,

2175
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:24,680
Speaker 1: you know I got some and then they they in

2176
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:27,559
Speaker 1: the last two weeks at training camp that's when they

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01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:30,800
Speaker 1: come on. So there's all this up and downs where

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01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:33,000
Speaker 1: these guys were. But I think what the coaching staffs

2179
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:36,120
Speaker 1: are always looking for is consistency, don't you think, Yeah,

2180
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:41,000
Speaker 1: consistency in whatever you're doing, consistent improvement, consistent willingness to learn,

2181
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 1: willing to take coaching. I think that that goes That

2182
01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:46,400
Speaker 1: goes a long way. Obviously, you're not going to make

2183
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:48,680
Speaker 1: the roster just because this isn't rudy like, You're not

2184
01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:51,200
Speaker 1: gonna make it just because you're willing to take instruction.

2185
01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:53,000
Speaker 1: You do have to show talent at some point. But

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01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:57,120
Speaker 1: I think that I think guys like like Nick Easley,

2187
01:43:57,280 --> 01:43:59,679
Speaker 1: who who are quick and who can get get away

2188
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:03,880
Speaker 1: from their defender rather quickly, just size wise and strength wise,

2189
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 1: might not be there quite yet. I think he's a

2190
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:08,960
Speaker 1: good practice squad option. I think Duke Williams another good

2191
01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:11,120
Speaker 1: practice squad option. Maybe just needs to get used to

2192
01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:14,679
Speaker 1: the speed physicality of the NFL compared to the CFL.

2193
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:18,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that's all they're looking for is

2194
01:44:18,200 --> 01:44:21,160
Speaker 1: just can you remain up until the right We're not

2195
01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:23,800
Speaker 1: looking for you to hit a trampoline and jump up

2196
01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 1: to the best possible version of yourself that you're going

2197
01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:29,120
Speaker 1: to be, But can you put in the work and

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01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:32,519
Speaker 1: can you steadily improve to get there? That's, like I said,

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01:44:32,600 --> 01:44:34,120
Speaker 1: goes a long way. I think we've seen it. We

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01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:36,280
Speaker 1: saw a couple of guys last year and maybe maybe

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01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 1: Raybrey McLeod was one of them who started out real

2202
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:40,960
Speaker 1: quick and then you know, either got worn out during

2203
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:44,759
Speaker 1: training camp and get spent or you know, just couldn't

2204
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:48,479
Speaker 1: continue that laid into camp, hung onto the practice squad

2205
01:44:49,439 --> 01:44:51,559
Speaker 1: and was up and down. Robert Foster just the opposite

2206
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:54,920
Speaker 1: he started slow and then crescendo throughout the year, even

2207
01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:57,360
Speaker 1: getting cut and then brought back and then ended up

2208
01:44:57,400 --> 01:44:59,160
Speaker 1: being a really contributor at the end second and a half.

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01:44:59,160 --> 01:45:00,720
Speaker 1: And I think that he needs to be seeing ten

2210
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:03,519
Speaker 1: practices in hard to know who that's going to be,

2211
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:05,920
Speaker 1: but certainly Thursday night, I'll give us a chance to

2212
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:10,200
Speaker 1: make some first, you know, first impressions. Anyway it will.

2213
01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:13,360
Speaker 1: And what Ray told me something interesting the other day

2214
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:18,360
Speaker 1: that he spent his offseason back home in Florida, living

2215
01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:20,479
Speaker 1: at home though with his mom and daddy. He said

2216
01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:24,280
Speaker 1: that that kind of re energized his focus, re established

2217
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:28,519
Speaker 1: his discipline and waking up on time, eating right, or

2218
01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 1: working out consistently and focusing on certain groups. And I

2219
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:37,040
Speaker 1: think that's where you're seeing kind of a re energized

2220
01:45:37,439 --> 01:45:40,240
Speaker 1: Ray Ray McCloud so far in camp. And but like

2221
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:43,880
Speaker 1: you said before, it's just can he consistently show that

2222
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:47,160
Speaker 1: because there is three there are three four more weeks

2223
01:45:47,280 --> 01:45:49,920
Speaker 1: of preseason and then you've got the regular season. There

2224
01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:53,000
Speaker 1: is no more time to taper off. With Marcella Luis Jacques,

2225
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:56,640
Speaker 1: Espan's NFL Nation reporter covering the Buffalo Bills, let me

2226
01:45:56,680 --> 01:45:59,320
Speaker 1: get you your thoughts on our Twitter Polliffe can marself

2227
01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:01,960
Speaker 1: and because of the injuries, we wonder what's on the

2228
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:04,760
Speaker 1: minds of fans and depth at Which position group for

2229
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:08,879
Speaker 1: the Bills concerned you the most? We offered three choices.

2230
01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:11,840
Speaker 1: As an offensive line, well, fifty eight percent say that's it.

2231
01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:14,519
Speaker 1: Is it tight end? Twenty eight percent say that's their concern,

2232
01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:18,640
Speaker 1: linebacker eleven percent, other four percent? Which position group you

2233
01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:20,640
Speaker 1: think is the biggest question markets for his depth for

2234
01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:23,599
Speaker 1: the Bills right now today? I think the Twitter Poles

2235
01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:25,840
Speaker 1: got it right, just moving on the way all the

2236
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:29,040
Speaker 1: way up. Linebacker, I think you're strong. I think the

2237
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 1: top three with Milano, Edmond and Alexander is very good.

2238
01:46:33,439 --> 01:46:35,439
Speaker 1: They're comfortable where they're at. They like guys like Corey

2239
01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:40,320
Speaker 1: Thompson behind at tight end. I think that Tommy Sweeney

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01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:43,200
Speaker 1: deserves a little more respect than than he's getting. Okay,

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01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:45,479
Speaker 1: I think he's a I think he's a strong option.

2242
01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:48,559
Speaker 1: He was rotating with the first team before the crewom

2243
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:52,720
Speaker 1: and before the Knox injuries. So I think that you

2244
01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:54,639
Speaker 1: know it's not yet time to hit the panic button,

2245
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:57,519
Speaker 1: but that offensive line, when you've got so many you've

2246
01:46:57,560 --> 01:47:01,360
Speaker 1: got Morse out you've got. Uh, Spencer Long has been

2247
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:03,960
Speaker 1: in and out of practice, Feliciano has been in and

2248
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:06,960
Speaker 1: out of practice. Quinn Spain's misstime, you just lost later

2249
01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:10,040
Speaker 1: in waddle for the season as well. Uh, you're losing

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01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:13,600
Speaker 1: that continuity and you're losing the chance to build that

2251
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:17,120
Speaker 1: chemistry and cohesiveness to find your best five. And while

2252
01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:20,640
Speaker 1: although Feliciano and Long did come back today and I

2253
01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:23,360
Speaker 1: think that is a that's a major boost moving forward,

2254
01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:26,519
Speaker 1: I think they're starting to be They're starting to become

2255
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:32,320
Speaker 1: some concern at center. I think Bodine has been consistently beaten,

2256
01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:35,760
Speaker 1: specifically by Bye at all of our He's really been

2257
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:38,680
Speaker 1: He's been eating his good and bad exactly. That's the

2258
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:41,479
Speaker 1: that's a tough part of watching practice and watching people

2259
01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:44,080
Speaker 1: dominate practice, is you know, somebody's taking a nail here,

2260
01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:48,040
Speaker 1: right pot. I think with Morris in um, the offensive

2261
01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:50,760
Speaker 1: line is not as big of a concern as it

2262
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:53,639
Speaker 1: was maybe in twenty eighteen, or it is in its

2263
01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:57,519
Speaker 1: current state. But I mean, he's been in concussion protocol.

2264
01:47:57,600 --> 01:48:00,479
Speaker 1: He had He's had three four of them in his career,

2265
01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:03,920
Speaker 1: and it's not something to take lightly. It's not something

2266
01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:07,120
Speaker 1: to mess around with. This is beyond football, this is

2267
01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:10,280
Speaker 1: his long term health. I'm not here saying, you know,

2268
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:13,640
Speaker 1: he's considering retirement. He might not ever play again. But

2269
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:16,200
Speaker 1: there's not really a big reason to rush him back

2270
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:19,519
Speaker 1: when it's that it's not playing through a hurt ankle

2271
01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:21,840
Speaker 1: or you know, a sore knee. So I would vote

2272
01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:23,599
Speaker 1: tight end. And Steve has heard me say this already

2273
01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:26,479
Speaker 1: the show, and maybe I'm thinking about it, Steve. Maybe

2274
01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:30,680
Speaker 1: I'm disappointed that Dawson Knox has not been practicing for

2275
01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:32,920
Speaker 1: over a week now, because I thought that was a

2276
01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:35,600
Speaker 1: guy who could explode into this offense, who could be

2277
01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:38,479
Speaker 1: a major player, a major contributor to this offense. And

2278
01:48:38,560 --> 01:48:40,560
Speaker 1: it's only you know, we're five weeks away from the

2279
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:42,920
Speaker 1: start of the season, but these are valuable reps that

2280
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:45,080
Speaker 1: he's missing. I see Tommy Sweeney, I see him working.

2281
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:47,080
Speaker 1: I like it. I just think Dawson Knox is a

2282
01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:49,519
Speaker 1: kind of off Yeah, but like you said, this is

2283
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:52,639
Speaker 1: a league of opportunity, and right now, Tommy Sweeney's getting

2284
01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:56,519
Speaker 1: the opportunity, he's getting the reps. He's making himself known. Knox.

2285
01:48:57,080 --> 01:48:59,479
Speaker 1: Like you said, we're so early in the preseason that

2286
01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:02,600
Speaker 1: He's definitely got time to make his mark and to

2287
01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 1: get those valuable reps in and to get comfortable in

2288
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:09,240
Speaker 1: this offense. But soft tissue injuries, once again, they're nothing

2289
01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:11,519
Speaker 1: to rush back from because you just don't know. They

2290
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:13,360
Speaker 1: could take. They could be healed like that, or they

2291
01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:15,200
Speaker 1: could take He might be dealing with it for the

2292
01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:17,200
Speaker 1: rest of the season. It might just be a pain

2293
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:20,320
Speaker 1: tolerance kind of thing. But I don't think that they're

2294
01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:22,160
Speaker 1: going to rush him back. I don't think they're rushing

2295
01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:25,040
Speaker 1: Crewm back. Although they were running laps around the field today.

2296
01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:27,479
Speaker 1: I think that's an encouraging sign. I thought that too. Yeah,

2297
01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:29,040
Speaker 1: I saw the guys working off to the side, and

2298
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:31,320
Speaker 1: then sooner or later they're all going to get a

2299
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:32,880
Speaker 1: chance to get back on the field. The question is

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01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:35,000
Speaker 1: it going to be too late, is it going to

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01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:38,040
Speaker 1: be soon enough? And is it going to affect their

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01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:41,800
Speaker 1: ability to contribute on opening Day? Yeah, and beyond that,

2303
01:49:42,160 --> 01:49:45,720
Speaker 1: it's not like Alan targeted his tight ends all that

2304
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:47,880
Speaker 1: much last season. I know that that's probably something that

2305
01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:50,559
Speaker 1: they want to improve this year. That's why they brought

2306
01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 1: all these names in. But I don't think that. I

2307
01:49:53,479 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 1: don't think this offense is going to be made or

2308
01:49:56,320 --> 01:50:00,360
Speaker 1: broken by tight end production. I'll calm down. Hey, Luis

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01:50:00,439 --> 01:50:02,839
Speaker 1: Jacque from ESPN the NFL Nation. You came to Buffalo

2310
01:50:03,240 --> 01:50:05,719
Speaker 1: from Carolina where he covered the Panthers the last few years.

2311
01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:08,040
Speaker 1: I did. We're headed to Spartanburg next week. What are

2312
01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:10,040
Speaker 1: we looking at? One hundred and fifteen varies every day.

2313
01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:12,320
Speaker 1: What do we get ready for that? Southern heat can

2314
01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:15,519
Speaker 1: be brutal? Yeah? I actually missed out on training camp

2315
01:50:15,680 --> 01:50:19,719
Speaker 1: last year, but I was covering. I was covering Clemson

2316
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:23,000
Speaker 1: down in uh Well, in Clemson, South Carolina. It's probably

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01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:26,519
Speaker 1: about an hour and chaine away, and yeah, it's it's

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01:50:26,600 --> 01:50:29,720
Speaker 1: kind of a swamp. Be ready ready for that, you know,

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01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:33,200
Speaker 1: high rate maybe gets you get you a nice little

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01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:34,880
Speaker 1: bucket hat. I say, we got at least one of them.

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01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:37,639
Speaker 1: We'll be we'll be covered up. Yeah. How much should

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01:50:37,640 --> 01:50:40,280
Speaker 1: we look for from Cam Newton? And where do you

2323
01:50:40,360 --> 01:50:42,320
Speaker 1: think they are with Cam Newton this year, coming back

2324
01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:45,439
Speaker 1: from everything he's gone through injury. I think the pairing

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01:50:45,880 --> 01:50:48,479
Speaker 1: of Cam Newton and North Turner is the best thing

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01:50:48,560 --> 01:50:50,960
Speaker 1: to happen in Cam really in his career because that

2327
01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:53,760
Speaker 1: often it's just different. Now, it's similar to hear where

2328
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:55,880
Speaker 1: they're asking. They're telling Josh, you don't have to be

2329
01:50:55,960 --> 01:50:58,600
Speaker 1: the superhero. It's what they're telling Cam as well. I

2330
01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:01,080
Speaker 1: know he's Superman and all, but they basically said, look,

2331
01:51:01,120 --> 01:51:03,639
Speaker 1: we've got you Christian McCaffrey, we've got Curtis Sammy, we've

2332
01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:06,320
Speaker 1: got DJ Moore. These guys all turned into running backs

2333
01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:08,160
Speaker 1: as soon as the balls in their hands. So let's

2334
01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:09,960
Speaker 1: get the ball in their hands as quickly as possible.

2335
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:11,559
Speaker 1: And that's why you saw it. You saw a lot

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01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:14,560
Speaker 1: more efficient Cam Newton. You saw a You saw a

2337
01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:17,760
Speaker 1: guy who who was more reminiscent of his MVP year

2338
01:51:18,120 --> 01:51:22,240
Speaker 1: than he was the injury riddled seasons after. And obviously

2339
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:24,639
Speaker 1: the shoulder did not hold up. And I think that's

2340
01:51:24,680 --> 01:51:27,639
Speaker 1: where you saw a lot more of the inefficiency start

2341
01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:30,479
Speaker 1: to creep up. But by all accounts and by what

2342
01:51:30,600 --> 01:51:32,479
Speaker 1: they put out on social media and what that beat

2343
01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:35,200
Speaker 1: is saying, he's healthy again, he's letting him rip forty

2344
01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:38,080
Speaker 1: some odd yards downfield. He's got guys like Curtis who

2345
01:51:38,120 --> 01:51:40,400
Speaker 1: can take the ball off or take the top off

2346
01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:43,439
Speaker 1: the defense. And uh, I think the Panthers are really

2347
01:51:43,439 --> 01:51:45,760
Speaker 1: slept on team in the NFC. This year. I think

2348
01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:49,479
Speaker 1: they're a threat to win the NFC sat up. Oh yeah,

2349
01:51:49,600 --> 01:51:53,320
Speaker 1: if Sam, if Sam's Sam, if Cam's arm comes back strong,

2350
01:51:53,400 --> 01:51:55,439
Speaker 1: like what I mean, He's he's got a big one,

2351
01:51:55,880 --> 01:51:59,040
Speaker 1: a big arm, and that you could tell last year.

2352
01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:02,040
Speaker 1: I mean he struggled through it. But he was struggling

2353
01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:03,960
Speaker 1: through it. I mean it was a struggle for him

2354
01:52:04,040 --> 01:52:07,640
Speaker 1: last year. And where they let anybody know or not,

2355
01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:10,840
Speaker 1: were trying to hire whatever he was not himself, No,

2356
01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:13,160
Speaker 1: he was. It was obvious throughout the year and it

2357
01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:16,040
Speaker 1: was just I think the real nail in the coffin.

2358
01:52:16,120 --> 01:52:19,280
Speaker 1: There was the Monday night football game against New Orleans

2359
01:52:19,400 --> 01:52:23,240
Speaker 1: and I believe week fifteen where now it's not just

2360
01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:27,040
Speaker 1: local fans in the beat and media seeing it now,

2361
01:52:27,160 --> 01:52:29,640
Speaker 1: the entire nation saw that your quarterback can't throw the

2362
01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:31,800
Speaker 1: ball more than ten yards to downfield. And it was

2363
01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:33,880
Speaker 1: and it was on all or nothing the team owner,

2364
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:35,600
Speaker 1: David Tepper, they shot, they cut to him in the

2365
01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 1: box and he can't throw the ball. Cam can't throw

2366
01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:42,439
Speaker 1: and even then he can't move the ball downfield. And

2367
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:45,720
Speaker 1: they only lost by one score to New Orleans. Most

2368
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:48,920
Speaker 1: of those losses were one score were one score games.

2369
01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:50,759
Speaker 1: You got a healthy Cam Newton. All of a sudden,

2370
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:53,960
Speaker 1: you're that's a tough team. You're talking about less than

2371
01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:55,680
Speaker 1: a handful of plays that need to go your way

2372
01:52:55,840 --> 01:52:58,720
Speaker 1: to make the difference in all those games. And unfortunately

2373
01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:00,920
Speaker 1: for them, though, that is they just football. It only

2374
01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:03,519
Speaker 1: boils down really three to four plays, and you can

2375
01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:06,760
Speaker 1: usually go back through each box score, each play by

2376
01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:08,760
Speaker 1: play and say, yep, that was it, that was it,

2377
01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:11,040
Speaker 1: that was a miss block, that's a bum route, that

2378
01:53:11,160 --> 01:53:14,680
Speaker 1: was a drop blown coverage. But no, I think with

2379
01:53:14,840 --> 01:53:18,080
Speaker 1: the revamp defense, they're switching over to that three four

2380
01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:21,519
Speaker 1: what they did with their defensive line, adding Brian Burns

2381
01:53:22,320 --> 01:53:25,439
Speaker 1: at edge rusher in the draft, signing Gerald McCoy, which

2382
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:28,000
Speaker 1: was I think one of the biggest moves of the

2383
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:31,559
Speaker 1: offseason across the league period. They're really they're a team

2384
01:53:31,680 --> 01:53:35,840
Speaker 1: that should that should gain more respect in that NFC.

2385
01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:37,800
Speaker 1: I don't even want to call them a dark horse,

2386
01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:41,240
Speaker 1: because I think they're that talented that they're probably one

2387
01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:44,080
Speaker 1: of the four best teams in that conference. There are

2388
01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:46,800
Speaker 1: a lot of Carolina elements of this Buffalo Bills team

2389
01:53:46,920 --> 01:53:49,600
Speaker 1: right now, and primarily Sean McDermot and Brandon Bean. Do

2390
01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:52,400
Speaker 1: you see that coming from Carolina to the Bills, do

2391
01:53:52,479 --> 01:53:56,120
Speaker 1: you see like a similar plan, a similar you know,

2392
01:53:56,240 --> 01:53:58,400
Speaker 1: prototype team to trying to put together here is to

2393
01:53:58,479 --> 01:54:01,240
Speaker 1: what they had in Carolina. It's kind of interesting when

2394
01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:04,920
Speaker 1: you look at the talent that was surrounding Cam over

2395
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:07,519
Speaker 1: his first his first several years, it was really based

2396
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:09,960
Speaker 1: around the ground game. If you had D'Angel Williams, you

2397
01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:13,280
Speaker 1: had Jonathan Stewart, and then you rely on the opposite

2398
01:54:13,320 --> 01:54:15,880
Speaker 1: side of the ball. Right now, it kind of seems

2399
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:18,840
Speaker 1: like that's what they're doing with just to a lesser extent,

2400
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:22,000
Speaker 1: with with Lashawn McCoy and Frank Gore, who I mean,

2401
01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:23,800
Speaker 1: five years ago, this would be the best running back

2402
01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:25,640
Speaker 1: to end them in the NFL and it wouldn't even

2403
01:54:25,640 --> 01:54:28,720
Speaker 1: be cut six and thirty one. Those they're older, but

2404
01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:31,040
Speaker 1: I think they're still effective. I think they're They're still

2405
01:54:31,040 --> 01:54:32,840
Speaker 1: a place for them right now. There's still room for

2406
01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:35,880
Speaker 1: them to be to be productive. Otherwise I really don't

2407
01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:39,880
Speaker 1: think that they would be here. And but I think

2408
01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:45,400
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is a little better arm talent than Cam Newton.

2409
01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:48,640
Speaker 1: I think Cam is the more dynamic playmaker. Uh. This

2410
01:54:48,760 --> 01:54:50,560
Speaker 1: isn't to say Cam can't throw the ball or has

2411
01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:52,960
Speaker 1: never been able to throw the ball because he's a

2412
01:54:53,080 --> 01:54:55,760
Speaker 1: very He's a talented passer, but you know, the it

2413
01:54:55,880 --> 01:54:58,200
Speaker 1: was that dual threat. He's more of a dual threat.

2414
01:54:58,240 --> 01:55:00,240
Speaker 1: I think Josh Allen will end up be being a

2415
01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:03,760
Speaker 1: better arm talent. And uh so that's that's what I'm

2416
01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:05,720
Speaker 1: seeing as far as comparisons between the two go. I

2417
01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:07,400
Speaker 1: have one more question for your markson. It goes back

2418
01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:08,800
Speaker 1: to something you mentioned. I don't know what we were

2419
01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:10,720
Speaker 1: talking about a few minutes ago, but I like it

2420
01:55:10,840 --> 01:55:12,920
Speaker 1: and we're guilty of it. We're out here every day

2421
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:14,880
Speaker 1: doing the show three hours every day at training camp,

2422
01:55:15,160 --> 01:55:18,320
Speaker 1: and you refer to something his camp talk, and I thought,

2423
01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:20,440
Speaker 1: that's what it is. I mean, sometimes you get so

2424
01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:23,800
Speaker 1: narrow minded and so laser focused on this team you

2425
01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:27,200
Speaker 1: need to take a step back and say, Okay, that's practice.

2426
01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:29,520
Speaker 1: There's games coming up. The other guys think they're pretty

2427
01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:32,360
Speaker 1: good too. Camp talk. We're all get caught up in it, don't. Yeah,

2428
01:55:32,640 --> 01:55:35,280
Speaker 1: you're not. Really. If you go through, you know, beat

2429
01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:38,840
Speaker 1: by beat across the NFL, you're not seeing anybody say

2430
01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:43,120
Speaker 1: this team's gonna suck right here, like no one, We're

2431
01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:45,120
Speaker 1: gonna have two games, right, don't tend to focus on

2432
01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:47,600
Speaker 1: the positives. Yes, on the positives, but no, if you

2433
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:51,000
Speaker 1: take an objective objective look back. While this defense should be,

2434
01:55:51,160 --> 01:55:54,360
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be fine offensively there there still are some

2435
01:55:54,520 --> 01:55:58,240
Speaker 1: question marks. Josh He's own kind of a propensity at

2436
01:55:58,280 --> 01:56:00,840
Speaker 1: times to fall back to the hero with his arm,

2437
01:56:00,920 --> 01:56:04,080
Speaker 1: Like he let one go on Friday night after completing

2438
01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:06,520
Speaker 1: a few dimes on the run and he just floated

2439
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:08,920
Speaker 1: one out for I think it was Dean Marlowe to

2440
01:56:09,080 --> 01:56:12,200
Speaker 1: pick off. He's thrown a couple interceptions where you know

2441
01:56:12,280 --> 01:56:14,800
Speaker 1: he's just taking a chance that he doesn't necessarily need

2442
01:56:15,320 --> 01:56:18,920
Speaker 1: need to take. There's the health of an age of

2443
01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:22,200
Speaker 1: this backfield. We think that they can be productive. They've

2444
01:56:22,280 --> 01:56:24,960
Speaker 1: looked fine on the practice field, you know, when they're

2445
01:56:24,960 --> 01:56:26,720
Speaker 1: not being brought down to the ground, But are they

2446
01:56:26,760 --> 01:56:29,560
Speaker 1: going to be able to hold up over a sixteen

2447
01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:31,880
Speaker 1: game season and not just hold up? Are they going

2448
01:56:31,920 --> 01:56:33,960
Speaker 1: to be able to be productive enough to take the

2449
01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:36,240
Speaker 1: pressure off of Josh Allen and the passing game. Can

2450
01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:40,280
Speaker 1: they compliment each other and just the offensive line play.

2451
01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:42,840
Speaker 1: It is a I don't want to say patchwork, but

2452
01:56:42,920 --> 01:56:46,400
Speaker 1: it's a reworked unit, and with all these injuries in camp,

2453
01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:50,200
Speaker 1: like I've said before, they're not getting the cohesiveness. They're

2454
01:56:50,240 --> 01:56:53,520
Speaker 1: not getting time to gel together like you would want

2455
01:56:53,560 --> 01:56:56,400
Speaker 1: them to if you're being or if you're McDermott or

2456
01:56:56,840 --> 01:57:01,040
Speaker 1: Bobby Johnson, and so there are there are issues with

2457
01:57:01,160 --> 01:57:03,120
Speaker 1: this team. There there will be issues with this team.

2458
01:57:03,160 --> 01:57:06,560
Speaker 1: It's not all sunshine and roses right now, but I

2459
01:57:06,680 --> 01:57:11,120
Speaker 1: do think that there is a high floor compared to

2460
01:57:11,600 --> 01:57:15,560
Speaker 1: what the past let's call it eighteen seasons have looked like. Yeah,

2461
01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:18,400
Speaker 1: I've I've always said that they're every team has questions

2462
01:57:18,640 --> 01:57:20,600
Speaker 1: coming into the season. You know, the Bills has are

2463
01:57:20,600 --> 01:57:23,200
Speaker 1: offensive line, they're tight ends, the injuries and Josh Allen,

2464
01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:26,720
Speaker 1: and it's rare that all those questions get answered. Oh yeah,

2465
01:57:27,080 --> 01:57:29,320
Speaker 1: you know, some of them are getting sensed. Okay, yeah,

2466
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:32,000
Speaker 1: and then others are like definitely, I know it didn't work,

2467
01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:34,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, however those questions get

2468
01:57:34,120 --> 01:57:37,360
Speaker 1: answered and how they add up together, We'll see how

2469
01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:40,200
Speaker 1: this two nineteen season goes. Let me ask you one more, um.

2470
01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:43,800
Speaker 1: People pant themselves, Bills fans, saying we care about a

2471
01:57:43,840 --> 01:57:45,640
Speaker 1: team more than anybody. You've been here for a month

2472
01:57:46,080 --> 01:57:48,520
Speaker 1: reporting for ESPN. I'm sure you get tons of us,

2473
01:57:48,600 --> 01:57:51,520
Speaker 1: tons of you know, retweets and stuff. You find that

2474
01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:53,320
Speaker 1: to be the case. People care about this team, maybe

2475
01:57:53,360 --> 01:57:55,560
Speaker 1: more than many places in the NFL. They really do.

2476
01:57:55,920 --> 01:57:58,800
Speaker 1: I try not to put too much stock into into

2477
01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:02,920
Speaker 1: social media because click, yeah, it's just it's it's social media.

2478
01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:05,880
Speaker 1: But I will say that, Uh, you know, when when

2479
01:58:05,920 --> 01:58:08,200
Speaker 1: I said I was announced I was coming, When when

2480
01:58:08,320 --> 01:58:11,200
Speaker 1: Roadac said that I would be taking a spot, um,

2481
01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:15,080
Speaker 1: I think I gained like six thousand followers within like

2482
01:58:15,280 --> 01:58:17,120
Speaker 1: by the time I went to sleep that night. These

2483
01:58:17,840 --> 01:58:21,360
Speaker 1: fans just they eat up information. And that's really I

2484
01:58:21,480 --> 01:58:24,720
Speaker 1: think you ask any reporter, that's all that we really want.

2485
01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:27,760
Speaker 1: We care exactly like you love me, you hate me,

2486
01:58:28,120 --> 01:58:29,720
Speaker 1: you know, it is what it is. I'm gonna go

2487
01:58:29,760 --> 01:58:32,560
Speaker 1: to sleep fine at night, but if you aren't paying attention,

2488
01:58:32,640 --> 01:58:34,800
Speaker 1: then I'm going then I'm gonna struggle, yeah, because that

2489
01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:36,920
Speaker 1: means I'm not doing my job well enough. So that's

2490
01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:40,879
Speaker 1: I love the fan engagement. I love the reader engagement.

2491
01:58:40,920 --> 01:58:43,720
Speaker 1: I love the support. Um. I love I love the tweets.

2492
01:58:43,760 --> 01:58:45,920
Speaker 1: I get to however many I can in a day,

2493
01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:48,200
Speaker 1: I'm not used to, uh, I'm not used to my

2494
01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:51,360
Speaker 1: phone blowing up like that, and uh, it's just uh,

2495
01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:53,680
Speaker 1: it's much appreciated for everyone watching it. You're gonna have

2496
01:58:53,760 --> 01:58:55,839
Speaker 1: fun here. Thank you for being with us. We appreciate, appreciate,

2497
01:58:57,200 --> 01:59:00,280
Speaker 1: Thank you kindly. Luis Jacqui is the ESPN NFL Nation

2498
01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:02,800
Speaker 1: reporter for the Buffalo Bills. Now Steve and I coming

2499
01:59:02,840 --> 01:59:04,720
Speaker 1: back with more. Come on back, One Bills Live from

2500
01:59:04,760 --> 01:59:17,400
Speaker 1: training camp on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back, It's one

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01:59:17,440 --> 01:59:19,920
Speaker 1: Bills Live. It is a beautiful day in Pittsburgh, New York.

2502
01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:22,640
Speaker 1: It always is. The sun always shines in Pittsburgh. John Murphy,

2503
01:59:22,680 --> 01:59:26,600
Speaker 1: Steve Tascar, thanks to Marcel Louis Jacques from ESPN NFL

2504
01:59:26,760 --> 01:59:29,400
Speaker 1: Nation covering the Bills. He's good, he's good, he's he's

2505
01:59:29,680 --> 01:59:31,680
Speaker 1: you know, I like it. I like his take, and

2506
01:59:31,800 --> 01:59:33,840
Speaker 1: it's fresh. You know, you and I know a lot

2507
01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:35,720
Speaker 1: about the Bills. It's good to get a fresh perspective

2508
01:59:35,720 --> 01:59:37,600
Speaker 1: once in a while. Different set of eyes, different set

2509
01:59:37,640 --> 01:59:39,960
Speaker 1: of different point of view, sees things differently, and it's

2510
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:42,800
Speaker 1: fun to talk about. Although generally speaking, he seems, you know,

2511
01:59:42,880 --> 01:59:44,640
Speaker 1: pretty positive about what the Bills have tried to do

2512
01:59:44,680 --> 01:59:47,000
Speaker 1: and what they're trying to do. But still it's nice

2513
01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:50,680
Speaker 1: to hear his perspective is nice. You're right, light is fresh,

2514
01:59:50,800 --> 01:59:53,400
Speaker 1: it's fresh, very nice. Hey, practice ended, Let's give you

2515
01:59:53,440 --> 01:59:56,120
Speaker 1: an update, and yes, injuries are I hate to focus

2516
01:59:56,200 --> 01:59:58,800
Speaker 1: on injuries, but you got to write. The report from

2517
01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:03,200
Speaker 1: ESPN from Adam Schefter is that Ladrian Waddle who left

2518
02:00:03,280 --> 02:00:05,440
Speaker 1: on the back of a cart yesterday, he's going to

2519
02:00:05,480 --> 02:00:07,320
Speaker 1: miss the season now four to five months with a

2520
02:00:08,320 --> 02:00:11,160
Speaker 1: quad muscle tear. That's not good, and the report is

2521
02:00:11,200 --> 02:00:14,640
Speaker 1: that he will be out. They did get a couple

2522
02:00:14,640 --> 02:00:18,160
Speaker 1: of offensive lineman Spencer Long and John Feliciano back today,

2523
02:00:18,240 --> 02:00:19,920
Speaker 1: so they got in practice time. They were in and

2524
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:23,040
Speaker 1: out of the lineup. Micah Hyde red non contact jersey.

2525
02:00:23,040 --> 02:00:25,400
Speaker 1: I was worried about Hide missing that time last week, Steve,

2526
02:00:25,480 --> 02:00:27,280
Speaker 1: but the fact that they've had him out there now

2527
02:00:27,320 --> 02:00:29,520
Speaker 1: today and a little bit yesterday, even in a non

2528
02:00:29,600 --> 02:00:32,520
Speaker 1: contact jersey, I'm less worried because he is a Look.

2529
02:00:32,720 --> 02:00:34,480
Speaker 1: I know we're focused on the offensive lot, but he

2530
02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:38,040
Speaker 1: is a critical performer on this team. Right when they

2531
02:00:38,240 --> 02:00:40,200
Speaker 1: yeah and when they start working to get back and

2532
02:00:40,280 --> 02:00:41,800
Speaker 1: you can see him out there working out, you know,

2533
02:00:41,880 --> 02:00:44,000
Speaker 1: it's it's just around the corner when they start, you know,

2534
02:00:44,080 --> 02:00:46,080
Speaker 1: getting back in the lineup. And of course Micah Hyde

2535
02:00:46,120 --> 02:00:47,840
Speaker 1: when if he was to come back, if he were

2536
02:00:47,840 --> 02:00:49,960
Speaker 1: to come back tomorrow, this would in a week, we

2537
02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:51,840
Speaker 1: won't even remember that he was out for a couple

2538
02:00:51,880 --> 02:00:54,440
Speaker 1: of practice. That's how fast this camp goes along. Yep

2539
02:00:54,920 --> 02:00:57,800
Speaker 1: um e J. Gaines not practicing today with growing in

2540
02:00:57,920 --> 02:00:59,920
Speaker 1: hip injuries. And the practice was good. We talked about

2541
02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:01,680
Speaker 1: but I thought it was kind of a bounce back

2542
02:01:01,760 --> 02:01:03,440
Speaker 1: day by the offense. A lot of red zone work

2543
02:01:03,480 --> 02:01:05,760
Speaker 1: by the offense, a couple of touchdowns thrown by and

2544
02:01:05,840 --> 02:01:07,880
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, a coupled by Matt Barkley, a couple by

2545
02:01:08,240 --> 02:01:12,080
Speaker 1: Tyree Jackson, as well um teamwork. I took notes on that. Steve,

2546
02:01:12,120 --> 02:01:14,560
Speaker 1: did you see um Oliver has been great, but you

2547
02:01:14,640 --> 02:01:16,640
Speaker 1: see him jump offside and he took one of those

2548
02:01:16,680 --> 02:01:18,440
Speaker 1: penalty laps. Oh yeah, he seemed to put up a

2549
02:01:18,480 --> 02:01:20,280
Speaker 1: fight about it. Did it very early? In fact, I

2550
02:01:20,400 --> 02:01:24,640
Speaker 1: was watching early on and he was lined up a

2551
02:01:25,600 --> 02:01:28,280
Speaker 1: football link in the neutral He was completely across the

2552
02:01:28,320 --> 02:01:32,200
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and the play he goes off and

2553
02:01:32,760 --> 02:01:35,320
Speaker 1: the strength conditioning coach Riciano is on the line. He's

2554
02:01:35,360 --> 02:01:38,080
Speaker 1: standing there going like he's like, like what he doing.

2555
02:01:38,400 --> 02:01:41,720
Speaker 1: He was lined up completely across the ball, so um,

2556
02:01:42,000 --> 02:01:43,480
Speaker 1: gotta work on that. He was on the he was

2557
02:01:43,520 --> 02:01:45,440
Speaker 1: on the right side of the defense rather on the

2558
02:01:45,520 --> 02:01:47,240
Speaker 1: left over in the three technique, he was on the

2559
02:01:47,280 --> 02:01:49,080
Speaker 1: other side of the ball. I think maybe that messed

2560
02:01:49,120 --> 02:01:51,400
Speaker 1: with his alignment runs. Alexander had to run one of

2561
02:01:51,440 --> 02:01:54,520
Speaker 1: those as well. Um, good pass over the middle to

2562
02:01:54,640 --> 02:01:57,960
Speaker 1: John Brown from from Josh Allen one and a good

2563
02:01:58,040 --> 02:02:01,040
Speaker 1: catch by John Brown two and a nice pass breakup.

2564
02:02:01,040 --> 02:02:03,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this. Levi Wallace and

2565
02:02:03,120 --> 02:02:05,400
Speaker 1: a lot of passes over the middle in this offense,

2566
02:02:05,520 --> 02:02:07,360
Speaker 1: and that's one of the difference. I think people will

2567
02:02:07,400 --> 02:02:10,080
Speaker 1: even see it Thursday night. But Levi Wallace was right

2568
02:02:10,160 --> 02:02:11,760
Speaker 1: there for a great pass breakup in one of the

2569
02:02:11,800 --> 02:02:15,360
Speaker 1: early team team segments. Yeah, Yeah, they had a segment

2570
02:02:15,400 --> 02:02:17,800
Speaker 1: they call move the ball where you know it's not live.

2571
02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:20,800
Speaker 1: The offense will complete a pass or they'll have a

2572
02:02:20,920 --> 02:02:25,080
Speaker 1: running play and whatever it kind of wherever the balls changed.

2573
02:02:25,080 --> 02:02:27,240
Speaker 1: If Josh Allen completes the pass, the guy kind of

2574
02:02:27,280 --> 02:02:29,680
Speaker 1: turns it up. They'll move the football to that spot

2575
02:02:29,760 --> 02:02:31,600
Speaker 1: and then they'll just keep you know, they'll keep calling

2576
02:02:31,640 --> 02:02:34,080
Speaker 1: plays and they'll keep the game rolling really fast as

2577
02:02:34,120 --> 02:02:38,720
Speaker 1: though we're a no huddle type of of drill. But

2578
02:02:39,120 --> 02:02:41,680
Speaker 1: it's also comes up with down and distances as well,

2579
02:02:41,760 --> 02:02:43,360
Speaker 1: so you can get a different down and distance. So

2580
02:02:43,440 --> 02:02:45,440
Speaker 1: the players have to be on their toes where they

2581
02:02:45,440 --> 02:02:47,400
Speaker 1: who's in, who's out. They're gonna go nickel, they're gonna

2582
02:02:47,400 --> 02:02:49,600
Speaker 1: go dime, they're gonna go big nickel, they're gonna go

2583
02:02:49,680 --> 02:02:51,920
Speaker 1: base on defense, and then they have to make their

2584
02:02:52,040 --> 02:02:54,520
Speaker 1: checks and on offense, they'll run people in and on

2585
02:02:54,800 --> 02:02:56,520
Speaker 1: and off the field as well, so they'll get used

2586
02:02:56,560 --> 02:02:58,840
Speaker 1: to being in a game type situation even though it's

2587
02:02:58,880 --> 02:03:01,880
Speaker 1: not live. And that's what they did today. And you know,

2588
02:03:01,960 --> 02:03:06,080
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, the offense looked like, yeah, they

2589
02:03:06,200 --> 02:03:08,920
Speaker 1: moved really well. I thought it was really well oiled machine.

2590
02:03:08,920 --> 02:03:13,680
Speaker 1: I think the defense wasn't so sharp. Not that just

2591
02:03:13,800 --> 02:03:16,280
Speaker 1: because the offense completed a couple of passes, but you know,

2592
02:03:16,320 --> 02:03:17,880
Speaker 1: you got guys lined up in ugrals and you got

2593
02:03:17,920 --> 02:03:20,400
Speaker 1: guys jumping off sides. I think they used the cadence today,

2594
02:03:20,440 --> 02:03:22,600
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks more so than I've seen in the past

2595
02:03:22,680 --> 02:03:24,440
Speaker 1: as well. So all that stuff going on today. It

2596
02:03:24,480 --> 02:03:26,840
Speaker 1: was a fun practice to watch. Um People always wonder

2597
02:03:26,920 --> 02:03:29,080
Speaker 1: how the offensive line lines up. We'll give you the

2598
02:03:29,160 --> 02:03:32,440
Speaker 1: first team Deon Dawkins at the left tackle, Quentin Spain

2599
02:03:32,520 --> 02:03:35,040
Speaker 1: at left guard. Injuries of course factoring into this. Russell

2600
02:03:35,080 --> 02:03:38,840
Speaker 1: Boda gets the first team reps at center. It is Ford,

2601
02:03:38,880 --> 02:03:41,320
Speaker 1: Cody Ford at right guard, second straight day for that tie,

2602
02:03:41,400 --> 02:03:44,240
Speaker 1: and Secky his first team reps at right tackle. Second

2603
02:03:44,280 --> 02:03:48,280
Speaker 1: team m I Butcker at center, left side, Connor McDermott

2604
02:03:48,280 --> 02:03:52,320
Speaker 1: at tackle, led Duke Coons with the second team, the

2605
02:03:52,440 --> 02:03:55,720
Speaker 1: twos at the left guard. Wyatt Teller gets reps at

2606
02:03:55,760 --> 02:03:58,640
Speaker 1: both right guard and left guard, and Dion Wesley gets

2607
02:03:59,000 --> 02:04:02,840
Speaker 1: reps at right tackle, second consecutive day for Cody Ford

2608
02:04:03,200 --> 02:04:05,400
Speaker 1: moved to guard yesterday after playing most of the time

2609
02:04:05,440 --> 02:04:08,080
Speaker 1: at right tackle through the first eight or nine practice

2610
02:04:08,080 --> 02:04:10,600
Speaker 1: as a training camp. Sean McDermott was asked today about

2611
02:04:10,600 --> 02:04:12,720
Speaker 1: Cody Ford moving in regard was at the plan or

2612
02:04:12,920 --> 02:04:16,480
Speaker 1: the injuries forts that issue. Here's what McDermott answered, a

2613
02:04:16,560 --> 02:04:19,360
Speaker 1: little bit of both. And I really appreciate his attitude

2614
02:04:19,360 --> 02:04:21,120
Speaker 1: and his mindset with it, you know, really, to me

2615
02:04:21,280 --> 02:04:24,200
Speaker 1: personifies who were becoming as a team in the way

2616
02:04:24,240 --> 02:04:27,600
Speaker 1: he was unselfish with it and his approach to it.

2617
02:04:27,760 --> 02:04:29,480
Speaker 1: You know. So I love that, love that he put

2618
02:04:29,520 --> 02:04:31,320
Speaker 1: the team first and you know, we're just looking at

2619
02:04:31,360 --> 02:04:33,560
Speaker 1: things this time of year and I'm trying to put

2620
02:04:33,600 --> 02:04:37,520
Speaker 1: the best five on the field and the kind of

2621
02:04:37,680 --> 02:04:39,680
Speaker 1: used himself as a right tackle or is that something

2622
02:04:39,800 --> 02:04:42,080
Speaker 1: that you know, you guys talked about with them at

2623
02:04:42,080 --> 02:04:44,280
Speaker 1: the beginning cross Its like bang in me either way. No,

2624
02:04:44,400 --> 02:04:45,600
Speaker 1: I think he knows that. I think all of our

2625
02:04:45,640 --> 02:04:47,680
Speaker 1: guys know that that. Um, you know, they're just trying

2626
02:04:47,720 --> 02:04:51,560
Speaker 1: to get on the field to help the team. So

2627
02:04:51,720 --> 02:04:54,000
Speaker 1: offensive line is an issue of the injuries. Tight End

2628
02:04:54,160 --> 02:04:55,800
Speaker 1: is an issue of the injuries. I've talked about that

2629
02:04:55,800 --> 02:04:58,360
Speaker 1: at the top three tight ends not at practice for

2630
02:04:58,600 --> 02:05:01,320
Speaker 1: just about a week now. Tommy Sweeney, seventh round pick

2631
02:05:01,400 --> 02:05:04,360
Speaker 1: Boston College, has benefited from that. Steve. He's getting first

2632
02:05:04,400 --> 02:05:06,040
Speaker 1: team reps and he made a couple of plays. He

2633
02:05:06,080 --> 02:05:08,280
Speaker 1: got a touchdown today, didn't he Yeah he did, and

2634
02:05:08,560 --> 02:05:14,440
Speaker 1: yes he did. And it's interesting. Sean McDermott said, you know,

2635
02:05:14,920 --> 02:05:18,080
Speaker 1: you sign all these guys in the offseason, and you know,

2636
02:05:18,120 --> 02:05:20,080
Speaker 1: some of these things make a big splash they'much more

2637
02:05:20,160 --> 02:05:22,880
Speaker 1: signing the Cole Beasley, that John Brown, signing guys like that,

2638
02:05:23,920 --> 02:05:26,200
Speaker 1: and then you know your seventh round draft pick or

2639
02:05:26,200 --> 02:05:28,880
Speaker 1: some of the other free agent guys. They all count

2640
02:05:28,960 --> 02:05:32,440
Speaker 1: and they all are signed because this team has something

2641
02:05:32,520 --> 02:05:34,480
Speaker 1: in store for him. They want to find out if

2642
02:05:34,480 --> 02:05:36,400
Speaker 1: they can they're good enough. They think they can be

2643
02:05:36,760 --> 02:05:39,360
Speaker 1: a contributor to the football team. So that's why they're

2644
02:05:39,360 --> 02:05:41,760
Speaker 1: all signed to these contracts, whether whether they make a

2645
02:05:41,800 --> 02:05:44,360
Speaker 1: big splash or not. And Sean McDermott referred to the

2646
02:05:44,400 --> 02:05:46,360
Speaker 1: fact that some of these guys came in here and

2647
02:05:46,360 --> 02:05:49,120
Speaker 1: they were just you know, it was just an acknowledgement

2648
02:05:49,200 --> 02:05:51,440
Speaker 1: that they had signed a contract. There was no press conference,

2649
02:05:51,440 --> 02:05:54,360
Speaker 1: there's no big deal or about it. And he says

2650
02:05:54,400 --> 02:05:56,120
Speaker 1: it's interesting because some of those signings are going to

2651
02:05:56,160 --> 02:05:58,640
Speaker 1: be pivotal, and I think training camp reminds us of

2652
02:05:58,720 --> 02:06:00,640
Speaker 1: that as all. I think Sean mcdermam was reminding us

2653
02:06:00,640 --> 02:06:04,040
Speaker 1: in the media that I think, I'll say it again,

2654
02:06:04,080 --> 02:06:05,840
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be surprises at the end of

2655
02:06:05,880 --> 02:06:08,000
Speaker 1: this camp. Were guys that are that are making it

2656
02:06:08,080 --> 02:06:10,000
Speaker 1: that we never thought would and guys who are not

2657
02:06:10,160 --> 02:06:12,920
Speaker 1: making it that we thought were absolute locks. Maybe Tommy

2658
02:06:12,960 --> 02:06:14,840
Speaker 1: Sweeney is that surprise guy. You get a chance to

2659
02:06:14,880 --> 02:06:17,680
Speaker 1: see him for yourself Thursday night against the Colts, Tommy

2660
02:06:17,720 --> 02:06:20,080
Speaker 1: Sweeney run them with the first team at tight ends

2661
02:06:20,080 --> 02:06:22,720
Speaker 1: with the injuries to the top three. Chris Brown talked

2662
02:06:22,760 --> 02:06:25,280
Speaker 1: with Tommy Sweeney after practice today and talked about all

2663
02:06:25,320 --> 02:06:28,480
Speaker 1: of his increased reps. I mean, you know, I just

2664
02:06:28,560 --> 02:06:31,480
Speaker 1: expected to come in here and play football. Whatever reps

2665
02:06:31,520 --> 02:06:32,800
Speaker 1: you know what it was at The twos threes are

2666
02:06:32,840 --> 02:06:34,800
Speaker 1: the ones. You know, I'm just tangled for anything I get.

2667
02:06:35,200 --> 02:06:36,840
Speaker 1: We've got such a great team around us. You know,

2668
02:06:36,920 --> 02:06:38,520
Speaker 1: it was easy for me to fit in, you know,

2669
02:06:38,560 --> 02:06:40,120
Speaker 1: with those older guys and get these reps, and you

2670
02:06:40,160 --> 02:06:42,640
Speaker 1: know it's been you know they're expected or not. It's

2671
02:06:42,640 --> 02:06:43,960
Speaker 1: been a good time. It's been a lot. It's cool.

2672
02:06:43,960 --> 02:06:45,840
Speaker 1: I mean, even though your legs might not be happy

2673
02:06:45,880 --> 02:06:48,960
Speaker 1: about it, how much is your brain happy about this?

2674
02:06:49,040 --> 02:06:51,120
Speaker 1: How much has you shortened your learning curve with all

2675
02:06:51,120 --> 02:06:53,480
Speaker 1: of this time on the field. How much is it

2676
02:06:53,520 --> 02:06:55,680
Speaker 1: shortened learning? Yeah? A little bit. Yeah, it definitely has,

2677
02:06:55,760 --> 02:06:57,320
Speaker 1: you know, being out there playing against the ones. But

2678
02:06:57,400 --> 02:07:00,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you know I've learned just as much. You know, tape.

2679
02:07:00,400 --> 02:07:02,040
Speaker 1: And you know, when I was in OTAs was Lee

2680
02:07:02,280 --> 02:07:04,080
Speaker 1: and Tyler Croft, some of these older guys who are

2681
02:07:04,080 --> 02:07:05,960
Speaker 1: just get around played a lot of ball and they

2682
02:07:06,040 --> 02:07:07,520
Speaker 1: know a lot. So I just and obviously coach Robb

2683
02:07:07,560 --> 02:07:10,240
Speaker 1: he's a great coach though, So that's been a big

2684
02:07:10,320 --> 02:07:11,720
Speaker 1: But like you said, you know, playing out here, that's

2685
02:07:11,760 --> 02:07:13,160
Speaker 1: that's how you get better as you go. I play

2686
02:07:13,160 --> 02:07:15,000
Speaker 1: the game and that's whatever. And I know that. You know,

2687
02:07:15,200 --> 02:07:17,400
Speaker 1: when you're in the early going, probably in the spring,

2688
02:07:17,440 --> 02:07:19,960
Speaker 1: this was the case for you. Sometimes you translate stuff

2689
02:07:20,440 --> 02:07:22,240
Speaker 1: from your old system to your new system, kind of

2690
02:07:22,240 --> 02:07:25,040
Speaker 1: like or the old language. Yeah, are you You're way

2691
02:07:25,160 --> 02:07:27,840
Speaker 1: past that now, right, you're kind of speaking this language. Yeah,

2692
02:07:27,880 --> 02:07:29,800
Speaker 1: for the most part in your head. Yeah yeah. I

2693
02:07:29,800 --> 02:07:32,320
Speaker 1: mean we've been here a couple of months now, just

2694
02:07:32,360 --> 02:07:34,120
Speaker 1: so you said, you're so yeah, so durn Ota is

2695
02:07:34,200 --> 02:07:35,480
Speaker 1: kind of like, hey, this used to be that, so

2696
02:07:35,480 --> 02:07:37,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this. But now once you get through here,

2697
02:07:37,640 --> 02:07:38,880
Speaker 1: I mean now or two weeks in a camp, you know,

2698
02:07:38,960 --> 02:07:41,080
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's this. You know, this is what

2699
02:07:41,200 --> 02:07:42,800
Speaker 1: we know and how we grow you to kind of

2700
02:07:42,840 --> 02:07:46,200
Speaker 1: like test yourself against a different opponent later this way.

2701
02:07:46,200 --> 02:07:47,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a different ball of wacts now instead

2702
02:07:47,960 --> 02:07:50,000
Speaker 1: of going against the same defense every right, right, you

2703
02:07:50,440 --> 02:07:53,400
Speaker 1: to kind of almost see use that as a measuring

2704
02:07:53,480 --> 02:07:55,800
Speaker 1: stick for yourself. Yeah, see exactly, That's what it is exciting.

2705
02:07:55,840 --> 02:07:57,879
Speaker 1: You know, every step has been you know, from college

2706
02:07:57,920 --> 02:08:00,920
Speaker 1: to to rookie, mini camp to OTAs mini camp to camp.

2707
02:08:01,040 --> 02:08:03,080
Speaker 1: Now that's the first preseason game. It's just another step up.

2708
02:08:03,280 --> 02:08:04,840
Speaker 1: Got a rise of the occasion. And you know, just

2709
02:08:04,920 --> 02:08:06,520
Speaker 1: think with what I've been doing playing football, you're know

2710
02:08:06,680 --> 02:08:11,200
Speaker 1: doing doing my job or play Bill's rookie tight and

2711
02:08:11,280 --> 02:08:13,440
Speaker 1: Tommy Sweeney likely to see a lot of him on thursdaynight.

2712
02:08:13,480 --> 02:08:15,680
Speaker 1: Let's squeeze, gonna call here Norman all the New York.

2713
02:08:15,720 --> 02:08:18,640
Speaker 1: Hello Norman, welcome to the show, My Murph, Tido and

2714
02:08:18,760 --> 02:08:23,160
Speaker 1: Steve Quin. Great. Maybe you can maybe you can help

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Speaker 1: me out with this because I just don't understand his speed.

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Speaker 1: So we signed Mitch Morse to a massive deal and

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Speaker 1: he's had three prior concussions and he's got another one.

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Speaker 1: Didn't the three priors raise a red flag to the Bills.

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Speaker 1: Apparently not? Yeah, apparently not. Andy, does that shock you? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: It does? Well, actually, no, it does. I mean, what

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Speaker 1: is it. Well, here's the thing, Well, no question, it's

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Speaker 1: it's part of his injury history. I mean I I

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Speaker 1: mean I had the same history when the Bills signed me,

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Speaker 1: and I went eleven years before I ever had another concussion,

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Speaker 1: So I mean it. Yeah, you can say that you

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Speaker 1: think the guy's gonna sneeze hard and get a concussion.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to be the case. And

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Speaker 1: the reason they take these things seriously, and it's better

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Speaker 1: that he has it now than he did ten years ago,

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Speaker 1: because then it might have been an issue. I think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna keep him out. And the experts

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02:09:22,800 --> 02:09:24,560
Speaker 1: say that if you get the guy back to a

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02:09:24,640 --> 02:09:28,600
Speaker 1: certain point healing wise, then he should be no more

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Speaker 1: susceptible to a second concussion than he wasn't the first one.

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Speaker 1: The real problem comes with concussions usually is when you

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Speaker 1: get a concussion and then you come back too quickly,

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02:09:39,240 --> 02:09:43,360
Speaker 1: then each subsequent concussion is easier to get. So if

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Speaker 1: you wait the proper amount of time after the first one,

2739
02:09:45,600 --> 02:09:48,480
Speaker 1: you should be fine. And that doesn't mean that just

2740
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Speaker 1: because he's had others they're all connected. It certainly is

2741
02:09:52,600 --> 02:09:54,280
Speaker 1: a bad history, no question about it, and you don't

2742
02:09:54,280 --> 02:09:57,040
Speaker 1: want these guys to get hurt at all, But don't

2743
02:09:57,320 --> 02:09:59,680
Speaker 1: don't throw in the towel and say because these guys,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the guys who are writing those checks know

2745
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Speaker 1: those numbers a lot better than I do, and it

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Speaker 1: would not have really bothered me at that point either. Well,

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Speaker 1: and we don't have a whole lot of time where

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Speaker 1: we can't get deep into it. Can I just say,

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Speaker 1: ten fifteen years ago, we may not have known about

2750
02:10:16,760 --> 02:10:19,040
Speaker 1: Mitch Moore's concussion history. We may not have known at

2751
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Speaker 1: this point that he had another one. Right, so they

2752
02:10:21,760 --> 02:10:27,240
Speaker 1: tiptoe around concussions. Now, ccussion protocol didn't even concussion protocol

2753
02:10:27,760 --> 02:10:30,240
Speaker 1: didn't even exist five years ago. That's just all kind

2754
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Speaker 1: of new territory and they should be careful about it,

2755
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Speaker 1: no question about that. A break. Steve and I back

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Speaker 1: and home theater provider of the Buffalo those we had

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Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer right here on our set right after practice today,

2762
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Speaker 1: and we asked them about this defense, in particular of

2763
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Speaker 1: the safety's ability to disguise what they're doing. Here's what

2764
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Speaker 1: he said. You know, Mike and I along with our

2765
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Speaker 1: are really our back seven. We all, you know, we're

2766
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Speaker 1: all communicating our dis guises together and we're all trying

2767
02:11:15,680 --> 02:11:17,440
Speaker 1: to be untied on the same page so that you know,

2768
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Speaker 1: the quarterback is seeing one picture and then on the

2769
02:11:19,680 --> 02:11:21,800
Speaker 1: snap he's seen another picture of you know, seven guys

2770
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Speaker 1: moving to a different zone. So you know, it's still

2771
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Speaker 1: a daily day or day to day, you know, grind

2772
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Speaker 1: on seeing how you know, you know, stressing it. Coaches

2773
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Speaker 1: always telling us to stress ourselves, you know, stress ourselves

2774
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Speaker 1: in practice. You know, maybe you get caught short in practice.

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Speaker 1: Now you know in a game you can't. You can't

2776
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Speaker 1: disguise at that level. And so it's a lot of

2777
02:11:38,240 --> 02:11:39,880
Speaker 1: cat and mouse game here and there. But you know

2778
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Speaker 1: we're still continue to work. But are you gonna add

2779
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Speaker 1: it Jordan Poyer and Michael High. Chris Brown was whether

2780
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Speaker 1: us we asked him the question of the day, which

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Speaker 1: builds position, groups, depth concerned you most. Here's what Brownie,

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Speaker 1: you have to say I would go over the line really. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The reason why is because in the ten days of

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Speaker 1: training camp, practice with the pads on for a good

2785
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Speaker 1: portion of those and seeing players like Spencer Long go

2786
02:12:05,240 --> 02:12:08,560
Speaker 1: out of this lineup, seeing Quentin Spain miss a day

2787
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Speaker 1: and then come back seeing much morse out of the equation,

2788
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Speaker 1: there is a noticeable drop off between maybe the top

2789
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Speaker 1: seven lineman and the guys behind them. And I'm sure

2790
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Speaker 1: this isn't the only place where that exists in the NFL,

2791
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Speaker 1: but the drop off there seems more severe in terms

2792
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Speaker 1: of talent and ability than it does at the tight

2793
02:12:28,840 --> 02:12:33,720
Speaker 1: end position, where you're still getting guys making plays. I

2794
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Speaker 1: agree with that, or I get that. I think I

2795
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Speaker 1: have went tight end. Our Twitter poll responded today and

2796
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Speaker 1: we asked that question which position groups depth concerns you

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Speaker 1: the most. We had a thousand respondents. Fifty eight percent

2798
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Speaker 1: said offensive line, twenty eight percent said tight end, eleven

2799
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Speaker 1: percent said linebacker. But I get it's the offensive Lindes

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Speaker 1: front and center. I get it, and I get to

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Speaker 1: the tight end position. For me, I'm a little bit

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Speaker 1: like Browning. I just see there as some quality guys

2803
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Speaker 1: deeper into that group than the O line and the

2804
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Speaker 1: drop off. These in the sharp Thanks to our production

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