1 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: A lot on the Anticmploring podcast YouTube channel, dying to 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: get back to the United States in a lot lot 3 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: to talk to this man right now, the UFC's number 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: one welterweight contender, Will lal remember the name Muhammad. I 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: guess the rankings say you're number four in the world, 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: but uh, it's good to see you, brother. I mean candidly, 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: it's been a challenging seventy two hours or so for you, 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: for Team Muhammad, and I think even for people who 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: don't consider themselves to be your diehard fan, for a 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: lot of mixed Martial arts fans, they felt like you 11 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: should have been the backup. They feel like you should 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: be the number one contender. So we appreciate your time 13 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: man today, We really do. And I just want to 14 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: know how you're doing after what, at least on the surface, 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: looks like it has been a thing seventy two hours man. 16 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly has been a real challenging probably like last 17 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: four weeks, because you know, you're trying to figure out 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: what's going to happen, and it just didn't None of 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: it really made sense, none of it was really clicking 20 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 2: with how it all was going down, and you know, 21 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 2: we were we were trying to get the the backup role. 22 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: We were trying to get the Kobe fight, and it 23 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 2: was always oh, yeah, you and Kobe, this date, you 24 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: and Kobe for toeugh, you and Kobe made six and 25 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, it was like Kobe wasn't responding. 26 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: So then we were like, all right, well let's try 27 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: the backup role and they were like, oh, well no, 28 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: they're not gonna. 29 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: Have a backup and then all of a sudden, he 30 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 3: pops out. 31 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: So then you're looking at it like none of this 32 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: is really clicking, and it's like kind of like in 33 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: the movie Casino, where like you're you're you're you're riding 34 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: in the front seat and the monsters in the backseat. 35 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 3: You know you're about to get shot. 36 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 2: You know you're in a bad spot right now, something 37 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: bad is about to happen, and it like you're like, man, 38 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: what did I do? Like where did it come from? 39 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: But I'm just glad that people are starting noticing now. 40 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: I think people are realizing and like you said, even 41 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: if you're not a fan, you have you have to 42 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: respect to work. 43 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: I put in the stuff that I what I've. 44 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: Gone through, I've gone. I'm on an eight fight winning streak. 45 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: I'm literally I won twelve in my last thirteen fights. 46 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: And and it's it's not like I'm beating nobody's I'm 47 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 2: beating ranked guys. They have more ranked wins then the champion. 48 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 2: I had more ranked wins than the former champion that 49 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: wasn't rematches. I have more ranked wins than all these guys. 50 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: And I had the fourth longest winning streaking history of 51 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: the well Trade division. And I'm not being mentioned in 52 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 2: the title contention. When Dana comes out, it says Kobe's 53 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 2: next for sure. It just doesn't make any sense. And 54 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 2: it's just like it was always the oh, we don't 55 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: make fights after the fight. We don't make we don't 56 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: do that after the fight. But where the hell did 57 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 2: Kobe come from to jump the line in front of 58 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: everybody when his last win was Masvidal, Who's number if 59 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 2: we're talking about rankings, number twelve, if we're talking about wins, 60 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 2: He's lost two in a row, and he got knocked 61 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: out before that fight with against Usman, and Kobe still 62 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: didn't finish him. And that fight in Kobe, Kobe almost 63 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: got finished in that fight by mads At all, so like, 64 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: how does he just jump the line in front, Like 65 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 2: if it was mad, what I'll get into to fight, 66 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: I would understand it. If it was even like, well, 67 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: wait and see what happens with Mazaball, because I understand 68 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 2: the story line there. I understand the business aspect of 69 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 2: it and the three pieces of the soda and. 70 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 3: Why I would get skipped. And that's what I was. 71 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 2: That's what I was more nervous about any than anything. 72 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: Is if Leon WINZ, they're gonna wait and see what 73 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: happens over the Mazwab'll fight, And I could understand that, 74 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 2: But then that would also give me the Kobe fight, 75 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: which I always wanted anyway, and to me it makes 76 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: sense anyway, that's I'll take that fight because just the 77 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: punch in his mouth and because he's been he's been 78 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: running from us for so long. He didn't want to 79 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 2: fight me in uh Mark in London when we're asking 80 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: for that fight, and it was like Danny could say this, 81 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: so you know, we were trying to make these fights 82 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: for Kobe and though they just fell through, it's not 83 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: falling through on my end. We didn't ask for more money, 84 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: we didn't ask for a higher rank, a higher paycheck. 85 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not a costa. I'm saying, let me 86 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: fight the motherfludger for free. Let me fighting for what 87 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: I'm getting paid right now. There's no negotiations of my end, 88 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: and you guys are just saying no. So it just 89 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: tells me that there's something bigger than this. And then 90 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: when I when I tweeted it, at first, I was like, man, maybe, 91 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: but now I'm starting to think about it makes sense, Like, 92 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: let me see if this thing really does go to court. 93 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: Let's see if Kobe and Masba's court case is canceled out, 94 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: because that's like the only other way it would make 95 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: sense for this fight to even happen. 96 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: Like Yo, you'll see doesn't want to look bad. They 97 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 3: want Kobe. 98 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 2: To uh drop the charges on mas but all because 99 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: there's two of the biggest names in the company and if 100 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 2: they are negotiating with ESPN or whatever about the new 101 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: TV deals, Like you don't want to a trial case 102 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: going on with your guys where the company looks like 103 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: barbaric and stupid because you have two morons fighting each 104 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: other outside of the cage when they just fall inside 105 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: of the cage. 106 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 3: But then these two mods are the ones that are 107 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: getting the most guying. 108 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: So it's like, what do you want if you want 109 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: to be a professional company, if you want to be 110 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: like show the fans that were a real sport company 111 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 2: is like the guy that's winning, the guy that's uh fighting, 112 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 2: the guy that's putting it all on the line every day. 113 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 2: And these young fighters that are coming up, It's like, 114 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: now what do they think? It is like, so do 115 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: we have to change the way we act? We have 116 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: to change the way we do this. We have to 117 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: change the way we do that because winning is not enough. 118 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: And even a fan base, I think I still have 119 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: a big enough fan base where I will be selling 120 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 2: paper views, I will be pushing a fight, selling a fight. 121 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: There's not a lot of fights that I don't even 122 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: barely talk. I'm on social media. I have people that 123 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: are behind me one hundred percent. I have a country 124 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: behind you. You saw me fight at Alba Dhabi. You 125 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 2: saw the crowd of their reaction, and it's like, it 126 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: really doesn't make any sense. 127 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 3: My bad I was going hard. 128 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 4: So I mean, you make a compelling argument, man, So 129 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 4: what do you think it is? I mean, obviously the record, 130 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 4: all that stuff that you've done. Do you feel like 131 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 4: you're kind of being punished for being a professional in 132 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 4: a lot of ways, right, because it's there's a lot 133 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 4: of you know, fuckery that goes on outside the cage 134 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 4: with other people, and that ends up being a positive 135 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 4: for some guys just because they're out out there in 136 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 4: the news. 137 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 138 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: I mean after my last fight, when I got the 139 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 2: Sean Brady fight, that's when I was like, am I 140 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: being punished because I just beat number four? And wonder 141 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: boy that I'd be number five, even Luke and there 142 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: was four guys above me that were no fights, And 143 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 2: I was like, why am I gonna fight to Sean Brady? 144 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 3: It makes no sense for me to fight downward? 145 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: But then they gave me that fight and they forced 146 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: that fight, So then that's what that's what I was like, Man, 147 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 2: maybe they got something to gets me. But then I 148 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 2: go out there and I finished him in Abu Dhabi, 149 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: and it's a it's a I was still an underdog 150 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 2: on that fight card and one of the biggest cards 151 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: of the year, and Abu Dhabi, the crowd is going nuts, 152 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 2: and to get a finished like that, you're expecting something 153 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 2: bigger to happen for you. You're expecting to hop right 154 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 2: back on the train and keep the ball moving. But 155 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: then it was the waiting game, and it's like what 156 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: are we getting? Oh, well, you know, we'll see what 157 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: happens next. And then it was like Gilbert just won 158 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: his fights and I was like, okay, well, I guess 159 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 2: since nothing else is happening, we're gonna fight Gilbert. And 160 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: it's like no, no, no, Gilbert's fighting me as well, you're 161 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: gonna fight Kobe. So then I'm like, all right, well 162 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: I'm fighting Kobe. So that's a fight I always wanted. 163 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 2: I'll take that fight. Let's do it on the March car. 164 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: Let's do it in London on the same card as 165 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 2: Ustlin and and Leon. 166 00:06:58,520 --> 00:06:59,679 Speaker 3: Because it makes the most sense. 167 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 2: And if somebody does have to get pulled off the cart, 168 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: you have two wealthwayth ander that are willing to step 169 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 2: in and way in which I waited multiple times at 170 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,119 Speaker 2: under one seventy anyway, So the fact that they didn't 171 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: make that happen, that's when I was like, none of 172 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: this really makes any sense at all, Like it doesn't 173 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 2: from a business point, it doesn't really make sense from 174 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: a fighter point that doesn't make any sense. 175 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: So I'm like, I'm just wondering. 176 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: I have so many things to say below. Muhammad with 177 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: us here on the Anakin Florian podcast. Appreciate you guys 178 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: joining us live on the channel. This will be repurposed 179 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: in all locations after the fact. But you hit on 180 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: a lot of truths there, and you weren't long winded 181 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: at all, by the way. I thought you were efficient 182 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: and setting that all up. And again, anyone who's trying 183 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: to sit here and state a case for blow Muhammad 184 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: as the number one contender, It's not a hard thing 185 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: to do, Belaw. I did it on our podcast episode 186 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: that comes out later today. Right. Six wins for you 187 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: since the start of twenty twenty twenty twenty just two 188 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: for Kolbe Covington. You go back four years, you have 189 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: ten fights to his five. Obviously we mentioned the eight 190 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: fight winning streak, top five wins that you have, the 191 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: fact that most of the loudest ovations in Abu Dhabi 192 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: during that week leading up to the Sean Brady fight 193 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: were reserved for you. On a massive pay per view. 194 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: You go out, knock the guy out, you win the 195 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: performance bonus and everything else I do want to read 196 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: a quote here from Booger Beard. I love the UFC, 197 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: but my opinion is that every time they allow someone 198 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: like Kobe to skip the line while more deserving fighters 199 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: are passed over, they are delegitimizing the foundation of the organization, 200 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: which is competition. The goal should be bet to find 201 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: the best fighters, not the best talkers. And I don't 202 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: know there are a lot of frustrations with the fan base. 203 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: I think a lot of them are rooted in Kolbe 204 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: Covington's inactivity. But you and kamzat Chimai have have both 205 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: come out and essentially alleged together that there have been 206 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: six combined situations where you guys collectively have been offered 207 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: that fight and he hasn't taken exactly. 208 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 2: And then, like you said, the best talker, he's not 209 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: even a good talker. When he talks, he's he mumbles, 210 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: it's written down, it looks stupid. 211 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 3: He's not professional. It's not good. 212 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 2: And then even when he's into press conference, want because 213 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: he said stupid stuff, because he says outland these things 214 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 2: that hillbilly drunks are gonna be cheering for, and all 215 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 2: that's that's not a it's not a good talker. Like 216 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 2: when Connor did it, it looked good. When Tail does it, 217 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: it looks good, it sounds good. 218 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 3: It's witty. When he does it, it's just stupid. 219 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 2: And you're gonna give a guy three of the last 220 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 2: fights you're gonna be for the title fight, Like, how 221 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 2: does that work at all? When his his fight in 222 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: between are guys that are on losing streets. He hasn't 223 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 2: been a guy that's won a fight, and how many 224 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 2: years he hasn't been a guy like that. Every single 225 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: guy's being had come off two fight losing streets. But 226 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: when I'm looking at it, and like you said, now 227 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: the fans are starting to realize that they're starting to 228 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 2: see some joke. 229 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: It does delegitimize the. 230 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: Sport and it just makes like I said, when I 231 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 2: look at myself and I look at the you know, 232 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: the what I represented, the people that are like look 233 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 2: up to me, and like I never thought I would 234 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 2: have like this type of push or fan base where 235 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 2: I have little kids, Arab kids from the palace in 236 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: the community, from the from different Arab countries, my cut 237 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: my son started fighting because of you, because of this, 238 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 2: and they're like, you know, when something like this happens. 239 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 3: It tells me, Man, I'm just done. I'm gonna quit. 240 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 2: But then I look at those kids and I know 241 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: that they're doing this. They're fighting because they look up 242 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: the guy like me. So if I'm gonna quit on myself, 243 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna quit on my dreams, which is the goal 244 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 2: is to be a fight for the title. 245 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 3: Fans to say whatever they want. They they hate me, 246 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 3: they don't, they don't like me. I don't care. 247 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 2: I put the work in, I got the winning streak, 248 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: and my goal isn't to beat every single ranked person 249 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 2: in the division. My goal is to be a world champion. 250 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: Hold the goal and to fight the next best guy. 251 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: If Sean Brady beats me and Alba David, Sean Brady's 252 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: welighing at his back up. Sean Brady is probably fighting 253 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 2: for the title next. They're pushing that fight. Which with 254 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: Sean Brady, why am I not getting pushed? Why am 255 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: I not the one h that's the next guy in line? 256 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 2: It just doesn't make any sense. 257 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, weighing in is the backup does not always 258 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: equate to a title shot. As you well know, Vacente 259 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: Luke have the chance to weigh in as a backup, 260 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: but he miss waked by double digits because he didn't 261 00:10:58,160 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: have a lot of time, and that was a whole 262 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: weird experience unto itself. But at least I would like 263 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: to clear the air. You know, the notion that Balah 264 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: Muhammad would not be willing to go way in as 265 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: a backup is probably the most laughable thing that I 266 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: have seen out there. So let me just clear the 267 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: air on that. And I would imagine for you, the 268 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: Arab kids, but also your own faith and just training. 269 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: Right I know you had a hard training session today. 270 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: I'd imagine the combination of your fan base that maybe 271 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: you never thought it would be this big, and we've 272 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: seen your social media following grow exponentially. I've seen the 273 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: way you resonate with fans. I would imagine that your 274 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: faith and just the endorphins you release in training helps 275 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: you navigate what, candidly is kind of a sad time, 276 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: I would think right now. 277 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, it's one of those It was. 278 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: It was like one of those times where you're looking 279 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 2: at it like, man, like what's the point, What's where 280 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 2: am I? 281 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 3: Where am I going to go from here? Like? 282 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: What what is it. Is it like I'm never gonna 283 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: get a title schot, so let me fight guys that 284 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 2: that I want to fight that I don't like. Let 285 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 2: me move up to one A five, let me fight 286 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: Sean Strickland. Or is it like you know, you know, well, 287 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: let me start from the bottle, let me go to it. 288 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 2: Let me go to Neil Magnet where these guys are 289 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: getting title fights off a beating these guys, these guys 290 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: are gonna push this off a beating the guys that 291 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: are twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen. Let me you know, they 292 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: want me to be everybody ranked, I'm gonna start off 293 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 2: from there. But then it's like you said it just 294 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: I just have to trust God. I have to trust 295 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 2: God's plan. And I always write that down, and you know, 296 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 2: I literally got a text from Jared Gordon and you know, 297 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: I'm snapping, and I was like, do you trust God? 298 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 2: Do you believe God? Do you do you understand? You 299 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 2: don't understand his plan? But in the end, it'll it'll 300 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: all make sense. And I can't just write that and 301 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: say that and not believe it, Like I have to 302 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: believe it. I have to believe that everything that happens 303 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: is for a reason. I have to believe that, Yeah, 304 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: it's all gonna come to fruition. And in the end, 305 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 2: like I always right, gold as to go. I don't 306 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 2: give it care about nothing else. 307 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 3: Gold is to go. 308 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, well go. I just have to say too. You know, 309 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: not a lot of people know, but you know, I 310 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: had like a major UFC to motion at one point 311 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: in time, and I'm not going to get into details 312 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: because it's not about me. But shortly thereafter, you know, 313 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: a lot of good things started to happen for me, 314 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 1: you know. And so even though at the time it 315 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: was really really hard for me, you know, I do 316 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: think that leaning into that is not a bad idea. 317 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: A few more minutes here with Blah Muhammad, and I 318 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: do want to be respectful of your time. So Dana 319 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: White turned to Hunter at the postfight press conference and 320 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: suggested they were working on a fight between you and 321 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: Shavcott rock Moanov. Now it's different for Jeff Neil to 322 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: accept a fight get against Shavcott rock Modov given where 323 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: he is in the division versus yourself. Right now, Jeff 324 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: Neil saw the upside in the Rock Moanoff fight. People 325 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: think Shavcott, not unlike Kamza back in the day, maybe 326 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 1: the Boogeyman of the division was sixteen and oh was 327 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: sixteen finishes at the time, and thereby that was part 328 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: of the upside for Jeff Neil. Right, you have the 329 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: top five wins agains Stephen Warner, Boy Thompson, Vicente Luke, 330 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: and then you already essentially fought one of those guys, 331 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: the previously undefeated Sean Brady, a fight down in the rankings. Right, So, 332 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: whether it's Shavcott, rock Mad, we're a fight against a 333 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: future Hall of Famer Kamara Ushman, even though I know 334 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: you guys have the same manager and some ties. If 335 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: indeed Leon and Kolby are matched up, have you thought 336 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: about what your recourse is and who you might like 337 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: to entertain. 338 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that point in your career now where you're 339 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: where you're thinking and you're wondering, and you're like, what 340 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: else do I need? 341 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 3: And it's you beat the. 342 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: Former title challengers and Damian Maya and Steven Wondabore, Thompson, 343 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 2: you beat the guy who weighed in as a backup 344 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 2: for the title fight, the guy that knocked you out before, 345 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 2: the guy that was supposedly the next guy in line 346 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: in Luk, and then you beat the hot prospect that 347 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: everybody said was the strongest guy in the world and 348 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: was going to walk through me and Sean Brady. So 349 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: the only thing I don't have in my resume is 350 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 2: a former champion, and I think that tomorrow. 351 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: He didn't take a lot of injuries during that fight. 352 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: He took light kicks. So if he's willing to step 353 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: back in there management or not, we're not teammates, so 354 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: that makes sense. He's above me, that's fighting somebody finally 355 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: above me. I would fight him, yeah, but go ahead. 356 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: Sorry. 357 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 4: I was gonna ask you, what was your opinion of 358 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 4: that title fight? 359 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 3: Can you break that down for us a little bit? 360 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: I mean, Ushman very looked very tentative when he was 361 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: coming out in the first couple of rounds. I think 362 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 2: that he had to get his What I thought, like, 363 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: when you're fighting somebody that knocked you out before, it's different. 364 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 3: People don't know the mental hurdle. 365 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 2: That you go through when you get into the cage, 366 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: and I thought a guy and Luk who knocked. 367 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 3: Me out, it was there was a mental hurder again 368 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 3: to get over. 369 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 2: And there was a little tenet eve that it was 370 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: gonna happen again. I could see it in Usman because 371 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 2: he didn't look the same. He wasn't the same confident 372 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: guy that walked forward, but he was moving forward the 373 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: whole time. Leon was landing a bunch of light kicks. 374 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 2: He didn't land at one shot where Usman got rocked 375 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: a little bit. But for me, I thought it was 376 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 2: a draw, especially. 377 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 3: With the point that was taken away. 378 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: There was moments there where, like I said, it wasn't 379 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: nothing crazy special, or there was one guy was way ahead. 380 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 2: I don't know how some one judge had all the 381 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: rounds for Leon, but I mean to me, it wasn't 382 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 2: like Leon got better. 383 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: I just think that Ushman looked a little bit worse. 384 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 2: And I was seeing it as like, oh, people are like, oh, 385 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: Leon's takedown defense looks a lot better. 386 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: He's getting up a lot better. But I don't really 387 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 3: think so. 388 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: I think that Ushman he wasn't really committing to the 389 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: takedowns when he was pushing them on the fence. He 390 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: did have that one takedown where he had high crotch 391 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 2: and then dropped him with the single egg, but he 392 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: wasn't doing a good job of holding him down, and 393 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 2: I just don't think that. He looked a little bit tired, honestly, 394 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: and I think that came from the nerves of being 395 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 2: knocked out before and thinking about it. 396 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: And then I think he messed up with his game 397 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 3: plan a little bit. 398 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: He looked he came out south paw, and I think 399 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: he came out south ball to try to stop that 400 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: high kick, because Leon can't come to the same side 401 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 2: of high kick when he is southpaw, and that's why 402 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: he was getting caught with it the first fight. But 403 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: then that left him open for low kicks, calf kicks, 404 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: and then when he was switching back to orthodox, it 405 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 2: was too late, I think, and he's going to just 406 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: get the push on his legs. But I don't know 407 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 2: why he keeps swisching a southwall. Even in the Kobe play, 408 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 2: he'll swiss southbyd and then he'll get rocked. His defense 409 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 2: is never good in south bad. When I saw him 410 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: at Southwell early, I thought it was a bad game 411 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 2: plan blad idea by him. 412 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: So I want to read you a quote from Leon Edwards, 413 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: the UFC welterweight champion, on the MMA Hour with Ariel 414 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: Hilwani today he said there's no clear contenders. The only 415 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: reason why Mosfiedal will have a chance is because of 416 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: our history and what's behind it, the fact that I 417 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: don't like him. If he does lose, there is no 418 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: clear number one contender. Now, I don't have to tell 419 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: you that Leon Edwards has been dismissive of you as 420 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: number one contender in the past. You have the history. 421 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: Perhaps some people forget that you accepted that fight, that 422 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: main event. You're first in the UFC on three weeks notice, 423 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: replacing Hamzat Chimayev made weight absorb one of the worst 424 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: I pokes in UFC history. The fight was a no contest. 425 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: Seems like people want to use all of that against you, 426 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: the fact that you know he was having his way 427 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: at times on the field, even though it was super 428 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: early in a twenty five minute fight, and one of 429 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: your greatest assets in theory would be your ability to 430 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: extend him. But what are your thoughts on the dismissive 431 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,479 Speaker 1: nature of some of Leon's comments about you as not 432 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: being a number one contender when your resume certainly suggests otherwise. 433 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 2: I think it's a joke because he was in the 434 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 2: same spot where I'm at. He was the guy that 435 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: was coming up, and we've seen him post quotes or 436 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 2: people post quotes where he was calling out Kobe, and 437 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: Kobe's like, who's this guy? 438 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 3: This guy's not nobody. This guy's nobody, and they're given 439 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 3: him the same type of treatment. And who did they 440 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 3: give him to build them up? 441 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 2: They gave him an ideas with a huge name to 442 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 2: try to build them up, to make it make sense 443 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: of why they would give him a title shot because 444 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: his only wins were coming off of RDA Serroni. All 445 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: these guys are fifty five ers. Even when they post 446 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 2: this on ESPN where they're posted notable wins for him, 447 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 2: it's RDA Donald Cerroni and ideas like, how is that 448 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 2: your notable wins if you're a welterweight champion when all 449 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: those guys are lightweights. 450 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 3: That's what's funny about it. 451 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 2: And then when people go back to that fight, nobody's 452 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: gonna read, but they're just gonna listen to the narrative. 453 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 2: It it was a ten nine round, it wasn't a 454 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 2: ten eight round, and it was four rounds left in 455 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 2: that fight, and like you said, it was taking the 456 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 2: fight on two weeks. Notice the first main event. There's 457 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 2: a million stuff that come with a main event, of 458 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 2: media cameras, all this other dumb stuff. And then before 459 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 2: that fight, it was fighting Diego Lima, who I took 460 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,719 Speaker 2: like fifty calf kids or something stupid like that. So 461 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: I me center of the camp and working for Leon 462 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: was making sure that I'm able to walk and move 463 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 2: the way I want to move. And even still with that, 464 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 2: I still lost my coach and the lead up to 465 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 2: that fight as well, and they made us come down 466 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: to Vegas the week earlier to do the press conference 467 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: with the Easy Car, So I lost my training in 468 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 2: Chicago with my team. So I was in a Vegas 469 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 2: week early for no reason because you couldn't even go 470 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 2: to the press conference because my coach got COVID. So 471 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 2: it was just literally trying to do everything on our 472 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 2: own in Vegas. But you know, you could give excuses, 473 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: you can say this and that, but I don't even 474 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 2: need to give those excuses because there was literally one round. 475 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 3: It was one round, and it was on his end. 476 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: When we're seeing him now, how many files did he 477 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 2: get committed this tomorrow fight? A million of the arrests 478 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: who've given him warnings. Who what if they would have 479 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 2: changed it? What if her being would have said disqualification. 480 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: I warned you two times, then it would have been 481 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 2: all change. Your whole history would have been changed allbeit. 482 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: But it's on the rest discretion. He couldn't disqualify them. 483 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: He could have gave me the win, and for me, 484 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 2: being a man, I would have be like, I'm gonna 485 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 2: get you the rematch because I'm a man, I'm not 486 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 2: gonna take a win like that. When there was no 487 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: clear there was nothing done. The final ballot did at ring. 488 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: Tim Simpson's a great manager. He is Leon Edwards's manager, 489 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: and this is going to be an interesting navigation for him. 490 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: I guess Leon has said to Ariel that if he 491 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: has presented a contract for Colby Covington, he will not 492 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: sign it. And even though he does want to sort 493 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: of denigrate you to whatever degree, I do think if 494 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: he was presented with a contract to defend his title 495 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: against you, he would sign it because he will acknowledge 496 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: your body of work internally, and so will Tim, even 497 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:03,479 Speaker 1: if they won't because honestly, below, when Leon talks about 498 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: other guys who are fighting and winning, who do you 499 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: think he's talking about, Bro, who do you think he's 500 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: talking about? 501 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: Literally exactly like who even if you can give it, 502 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: you're talking about Maxwell, You're talking about Kobe. Like, these 503 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 2: guys have malo win this. He's gonna have one win 504 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 2: in his last four fights. Kobe has one win in 505 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: his last four fights. So like, if you're Leon, if 506 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 2: you're you're a true champion, you want to fight the 507 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 2: next best guy up of coming. Like and people could 508 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: say whatever it is about money or whatever like that, 509 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: and it's like, to be a true contender, to be 510 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: a true champion, you got to fight the hardest contender. 511 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 3: And I'm way harder to fight than any of those 512 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 3: two guys. And I earned it. 513 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: I put some blood, sweat and tears in And uh, 514 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 2: it's not like I'm saying I deserved it. 515 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 3: I earned it. 516 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm or out of Like please God, please, 517 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 2: you know, please Dan to give me this oute of this. 518 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 2: This is this No, I'd be four top ten guys. 519 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 3: There's nobody in the visit and beat four top ten guys. 520 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: Bro, you and my twin brother are like family, and 521 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: yet it doesn't even matter. Your case is very easy 522 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: for me to lay out right, even if I didn't 523 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: like you, I would want to give you this platform today. 524 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: To what extent has this been therapeutic today? I'm not 525 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: going to suggest that this makes you even feel one 526 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: percent better, but tell me this makes you feel like 527 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: half a percentage point better that we've had this conversation. 528 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: Honestly it does, because again, it does make you feel 529 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: a little bit better. It's like you're it's like a 530 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 2: therapy session where I'm like letting you out. I appreciate 531 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 2: you honestly, to being on that postfight show, the fact 532 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 2: that you had my back end. You got guys like 533 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 2: Rashad Evans and Gilbrin Melendez with the most laughable responses. 534 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: It's so stupid that they're they're even trying to push it, 535 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: and it's funny because it really makes no sense. 536 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 3: And those guys are real fighters. And if you're a 537 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 3: real fighter, you know what type of work it takes 538 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 3: to put in. 539 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 2: You know what type of what kind of sessions we 540 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 2: put in, you know what kind of heart it takes 541 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 2: to get into the cage and. 542 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 3: To how hard it is to have a streak like 543 00:22:59,240 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 3: I have a streak. 544 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 2: And for them to say oh, you know, I'll give 545 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 2: it to an ideas or give it to Kobe Come. 546 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: I think Kobe Coming, it's like it's a joke and 547 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 2: it like makes you lose respect for those type of guys. 548 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, nothing in life is guaranteed. We all know that, 549 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: but I do believe that if you can position yourself 550 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: to fight Kamara Usman and get sort of a soft 551 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: guarantee that if you beat the former champion all time, 552 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: great that you get a championship opportunity next right, Because 553 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: like Cheeto Vera has not been guaranteed a title fight 554 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: if he beats Corey Sandhagen this weekend, but he's won 555 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: four in a row. He puts everybody away. He could 556 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: have held out after knock it out Domina Cruz for 557 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: a championship opportunity and maybe it would have materialized. Has 558 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: the head to head win over Shan O'Malley, But he's 559 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: gonna go beat Corey Sanagen in his mind as an underdog, 560 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: by the way, not unlike you against Sean Brady, and 561 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: I know you're having to do this maybe once more. 562 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: But he understands then that he beats Corey Sanagen, then 563 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: he's gonna lay back in the cut, and I think 564 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: for you, if you beat Kamara Ousman and you can 565 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: get that fight, you know, maybe that'll finally be the one. 566 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: But uh, there's a lot of love for you out 567 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: there and certainly a lot of love for you here, 568 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: and hopefully you can U fucking lean into all that. 569 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 3: Man. Appreciate you guys, seriously, honestly, brother, love you guys. 570 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: Hey, love you too. And real quick, when I saw 571 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: you write the word uh b I t c H 572 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 1: on Twitter, I knew that. Uh. I knew that somebody 573 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: had really pissed you off because like that. 574 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, I have my boys shout out the biggie. 575 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 2: He's like, bro, I would delete that tweet. He's like, 576 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 2: I was like just snapping on him. And then I 577 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 2: was like and then may yesdnn ma like shared it 578 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: and then like I'm having people to share it, and 579 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: like the second or third thought that came to my 580 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 2: head is like, man, I don't want my mom to 581 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: see it because I don't want like she already goes 582 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 2: to so much just to me fighting, but she's like 583 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 2: to see it. She knows that I'm hurting and she 584 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 2: doesn't want that to be you know, like I said, 585 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 2: just kids watching me. I don't want them to think 586 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 2: that that's the right way to do things. 587 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: It's now, right, Hey, have a good day. We appreciate you, Okay, 588 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: appreciate you guys. Now Here he is Belah Muhammad with 589 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: us here live on the Anak and Florian podcast. A 590 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 1: few thoughts on the back end here, and I'm glad 591 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: because I wasn't going to ask him sort of about 592 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: the impact on the family. But Kenny, there have been 593 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: a lot of circumstances in your career as fighter and 594 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: as broadcaster where you have to deal with things similarly 595 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: to what he's dealing with right now. And he mentioned 596 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: his mother and the families go through this as well. 597 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: Obviously for me to a much lesser degree. I'm not 598 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: a professional athlete. But when I was demoted, right, it's 599 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: hard on my mom. It's hard on my whole family, right, 600 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: And whether it was performance based or not, right, it's 601 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: a really hard thing. And this is not a demotion, 602 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: but imagine how hard this is for Balau's girlfriend and 603 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: for his mom, right, And you know, to sort of 604 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: feel like maybe the promotion doesn't want you to be 605 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: the guy and they want you to fight Shavcott Rockmanov. 606 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: It's an emotional thing, and I know you can sort 607 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 1: of speak to it. 608 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 4: It's an emotional thing, and it's also something that affects 609 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 4: your livelihood, right, you know, that is a fight that 610 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 4: could absolutely change his life, and you know, we we'd 611 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 4: love to say and I do believe it to be true. Right, 612 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 4: These are the kind of this is the kind of 613 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 4: adversity that ultimately makes you stronger. But at the same time, 614 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 4: when you're talking about a business like mixed martial arts, 615 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 4: you get one opportunity, or maybe you don't get one 616 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 4: at all. Maybe not getting this opportunity leads to some 617 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 4: kind of crazy crap that happens, or he gets injured 618 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 4: God forbid, or whatever it is, and things can change quickly, 619 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 4: either for the positive for the negative. And in this sport, 620 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 4: as fighters, we have very little control. And again I 621 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 4: want to go back to what Bilall was saying, right 622 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 4: because obviously we had talked about this before, but I 623 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 4: think he makes a very compelling argument and gives a 624 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 4: backdrop to the kind of things that he experienced leading 625 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 4: up to that Leon Edwards fight originally, which I didn't 626 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 4: know about. And that stuff's real I don't think you know, 627 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 4: some fighters will make excuses. Those are all real things 628 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 4: that I think happened and can be very difficult to 629 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 4: overcome and deal with, especially coming off that last night. 630 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 4: Those are all things that you kind of forget about. 631 00:26:59,000 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 3: I certainly did. 632 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 4: So it's cool to hear Billaal give that backdrop and 633 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 4: make a stronger and even stronger argument for himself why 634 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 4: he should get that shot, and I understand why he's 635 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 4: so upset. I totally get that, and hopefully he gets 636 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 4: at least a great fight. And again, this is another 637 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 4: guy in blah who's pissed off, but at the same 638 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 4: time he's like, all right, I'll take another fight. I'll 639 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 4: fight at kamara Uzman. He's not afraid of anybody. Kamara 640 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 4: Uzman is a problem obviously, former champion. I think that 641 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 4: would be a fantastic fight and would be the I 642 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 4: don't know, the cherry on top of the icing to say, listen, 643 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 4: I'm here, I'm one of the best in the world. 644 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 3: Give me that, damn bill. 645 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: And it's not to say he wouldn't fight Shavcott Rokmanov. Right, 646 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: if you were to do a rockmanab Muhammad Comine event, 647 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: on a pay per view headlined by Leon Edwards Kobe 648 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: Covington and Muhammad could be the backup during that week. 649 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure he would have the appetite for that, right, 650 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: but to be able to beat Kamara Usman, right, because again, 651 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: the piece of metal means a lot of money, and 652 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: so even though maybe historically blow Muhammad might even prefer 653 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 1: to have a win over kamar Usman then a win 654 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,959 Speaker 1: over Leon Edwards, right. I mean, that's a huge, huge 655 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: scalp on a resume, but it doesn't come with the 656 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: belt right now in the ensuing payday, so we'll see 657 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: what happens. I do think that a Blow Muhammad Kamar 658 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: Usman fight makes a shit ton of sense, as they 659 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: say there in New England. So we'll see what happens. 660 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: But thanks everybody for joining us live here on the 661 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: anicanin Floor and Podcast YouTube channel. Our full episode complete 662 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: recap of UFC two to eighty six will be up 663 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: I believe it's six pm Eastern tonight live on the 664 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: DraftKings YouTube channel. We're joined by UFC Hall of Famer 665 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: for s Griffin and the coach Ray Longo as well, 666 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: and then later in the week also on the DraftKings 667 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: YouTube channel, full preview and predictions for UFC Fight Night, 668 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: Corey Sandhagen and Marlon Cheeto vera under the Light Saturday 669 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: on ESPN. Thank y'all for joining us live, and thanks 670 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: to Blaw. Remember the name Muhammad. We'll talk to you 671 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: later today