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Speaker 1: of Cowboys headquarters at the Star in Frisco. And now

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Speaker 1: your hosts Brian brought us Jeff Kavanaugh, Kyle Yeomans, and

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Speaker 1: David Hellman. It's a Friday edition of the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: dot Com Draft Show, presented by Miller Ltte. As we

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Speaker 1: are back from the s WBC studios at the Star

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Speaker 1: in Frisco. We have braved the frozen tundra of the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex and made it to the Star

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Speaker 1: in Frisco at day late, Brian, but they be too

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Speaker 1: late to talk about the draft. No, it's always good

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Speaker 1: to talk about the draft. And you know, with with

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Speaker 1: the combine on the horizon, you speak of frigid and

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Speaker 1: cold and all those things. I know Jeff Kavanaugh can

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Speaker 1: tell us a few stories about combine cold. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: don't want a little different, No, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: talk about it though. A little cold, right, A little different, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's different. Yeah, it's I live twenties, so if it's

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Speaker 1: cold outside, I'll wear a long sleeve T shirt and

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Speaker 1: a hoodie. Yeah that's what I own. That's about it.

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Speaker 1: So that's what I took to Indie because I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh it's cold, I'll let me grab my cold things,

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Speaker 1: my long sleeve T shirts and my hoodies. Negative eight

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Speaker 1: windchill does not care about your hoodie or your T shirt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah at all, blows right through that rudder room jacket

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Speaker 1: that you've got on helme and tried to quit. He did,

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Speaker 1: tried to quit life day walking down the street in

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Speaker 1: India after drinking and he sat down on the sidewalking rid.

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Speaker 1: What are you doing? He said, I'm done. I can't

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Speaker 1: in the face, No, no, no. It was freezing, bitter, bitter,

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Speaker 1: bitter cold. And if you know, everybody who's gone to

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Speaker 1: where our hotel hell was. We had to walk up

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Speaker 1: his backpack and I grabbed his like strap and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: come on, man, we gotta go. He's like, no, I

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Speaker 1: can't go further. I can't just go. Just leave me.

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Speaker 1: you gotta go. You gotta get going. But uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the the Slippery Noodle and all those places they missed

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Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of draft stories from you guys

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Speaker 1: over the years, including the one where Jeff was freezing

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Speaker 1: the first time around, and I learned from that. I've

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Speaker 1: And we'll of course have coverage throughout next week from

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Speaker 1: So that's going to happen when you have a team

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Speaker 1: as stacked as that. Georgie's got some really good players.

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Speaker 1: Fun to stay. Nolan Smith is the stand up edge

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Speaker 1: other ones to talk about, yep, like me some Kuay Walker.

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Speaker 1: He's a fun prospect. I watched Walker Tuesday after the show.

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Speaker 1: Of course, picking at number twenty four, and there's a

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Speaker 1: at in terms of their needs and see them as

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Speaker 1: a potential threat to take those guys? Because I know

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Speaker 1: we've talked about and you guys run those mock drafts simulation. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's that You're going to run into something today, and

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Speaker 1: they're twenty three Keeps stealing interior offensive lineman from me,

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Speaker 1: Cardinals keeping all the mock drafts. They keep taking my

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Speaker 1: interior line. I don't appreciate it. Okay, sometimes it's Linderbaum.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's kind of protect Tyler Murray. I've seen Zion

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Speaker 1: Johnson to them multiple times. Yeah, you know, we'll see that.

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Speaker 1: There's there's there's a couple of teams that are gonna

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Speaker 1: be drafting ahead of you a lot in this draft

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Speaker 1: that I always worry about because I think that they

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Speaker 1: have a good understanding for players. I think the Chargers

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Speaker 1: are one of those teams. The Pittsburgh Steelers are one

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Speaker 1: of those teams at twenty. Yeah. Now you get a

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Speaker 1: team like Buffalo behind you who kind of has an

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Speaker 1: understanding for players. So yeah, I just you know, the

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Speaker 1: fact that you've got all your division opponents ahead of you,

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Speaker 1: you know, is that that's a little concerning there. But

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Speaker 1: when you got good drafting team again, you know, Baltimore, Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: those people that you're gonna probably have a couple of

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Speaker 1: pin throws along the way because they kind of figure

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Speaker 1: out a way to take a guy or two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's it. A real pin thrower. That's a real pin throw.

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Speaker 1: When Brian does a lot of fake pen throws, sure,

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Speaker 1: like they had a couple of those last year, a fake,

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Speaker 1: fake pin throw. But yeah, this when when you get

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Speaker 1: a couple of teams like say Chargers, Ravens, Steelers in

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Speaker 1: front of you that draft, I think draft particularly, well,

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Speaker 1: there's there's gonna be some some mine fields you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to navigate. I feel like it's a fun I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's no such thing as a fun pin throw. I

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Speaker 1: mean you love to get those somebody or neck or

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Speaker 1: something and it kind of sticks for a second but

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Speaker 1: then falls and just goes back to the table. That

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Speaker 1: might be a little fun. I think Tom Coughlin throw

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Speaker 1: a phone. Can we hear that story? Full size? Picked

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Speaker 1: up a phone and threw it like the whole things, oh,

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Speaker 1: the state, the phone and the station, everything, cradle everything. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he wanted to draft. He wanted to draft a Curtis

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Speaker 1: Enis and he oh, this worked out for him. That's

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Speaker 1: when they took Fred Taylor. They took Fred Taylor and

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Speaker 1: like he was, he was pissed. One of the greatest

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville jags of all time. He just threw the phone

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Speaker 1: through the complete phone onto the ground and everybody was like, okay,

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Speaker 1: whatever kind of the thing that was its fake. He

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Speaker 1: was really mad. Yeah, it was really mad. Yeah. But

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Speaker 1: that's the thing is we're gonna have some pin throws throughout,

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Speaker 1: and when the pin throws settled down, you're still gonna

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Speaker 1: look at twenty four and you're still gonna get a

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Speaker 1: great player. So and that's the other fun thing about something,

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Speaker 1: just real quick is like Tom Coughlin in that moment

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Speaker 1: thought he lost his running back. Yeah, and he actually

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Speaker 1: got the draft Goods did him a favor. He got

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Speaker 1: the better one he got. He just didn't know it yet.

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Speaker 1: He just didn't know it. Yeah. The thing I think

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Speaker 1: the thing too about it is the thing with the

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Speaker 1: draft it always kind of makes me irritated is when

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Speaker 1: we kind of we're working through it and we were

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Speaker 1: all right, give me your best guys, give me your

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Speaker 1: best guys, and it's the same best guy every time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I'm I'm gonne thing, So I stop saying his name,

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Speaker 1: keep asking me who's my best scout? At what point

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Speaker 1: in time do you stop saying that guy's name that

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Speaker 1: you know there's something wrong with it? I never did.

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Speaker 1: I think starting about the mid third round and I

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Speaker 1: then I've thrown the same disclaimer. But I know he's

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Speaker 1: a tiny person. He may not even get drafted, but

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Speaker 1: he's really good. You got your talking points, yes, as

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Speaker 1: I think they kicked him out. Well, they like he

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Speaker 1: our friend over there at Connor NFL Draft. He asked

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Speaker 1: what interior offensive line options are most realistically appealing at

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Speaker 1: pick number fifty six, so in the second round for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and he wants to know more about Darien

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Speaker 1: Beavers and his short arms. He says he is a

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Speaker 1: fan of mister Beavers. One linebacker I didn't watch, didn't

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Speaker 1: watch him. I seen Beaver. I talked about him the

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Speaker 1: other days. The only linebackers I'll talk about him. But

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Speaker 1: let's start. Let's start with the interior offensive line. We'll

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Speaker 1: get the Beavers here in a second. But Brian, anybody

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Speaker 1: stick out in the interior in that second round there

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Speaker 1: that does Brian Well, I mean, ye edd Ingram's in

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Speaker 1: that group for me. By the way, I think you

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Speaker 1: know Knard. I don't know where exactly people from will

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Speaker 1: have him from Kentucky. Giant dude played tackle at Kentucky

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Speaker 1: and is a fricking people mover. He is a great

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Speaker 1: run blocker. Yeah, I'll tell you if he movement and yeah,

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Speaker 1: technique exactly a little bit people moving. Yeah, I kind

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Speaker 1: of I've kind of was a fan. Two of you

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Speaker 1: mentioned I mentioned Kard Thayer Mumford from Ohio State was

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Speaker 1: another guy six six three twenty seven. And then another kid,

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Speaker 1: Sean Ryan from UCLA who was a tackle that projects inside.

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Speaker 1: He played left tackle at UCLA, so likely you know,

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Speaker 1: these are two mammoth guys. Ryan six five three twenty

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Speaker 1: and Mumford is six six three twenty seven. So I

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Speaker 1: mean there's a you watch Mudford played left tackle in

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Speaker 1: he comes off the ball, and the next thing you know,

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Speaker 1: that big body is recovering and it's like he's into

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Speaker 1: but man, he manages to get his guy past the

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Speaker 1: hole and things like that. And Ryan on the other

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Speaker 1: side is I mean, I think that to me, there's

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Speaker 1: So I kind of feel like that maybe in a

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Speaker 1: But man, I'll tell you what, if I say this,

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't be a terrible option if you had to

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Speaker 1: use him as a tackle. Say you play him at

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Speaker 1: I don't think he would be a terrible option. A

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Speaker 1: matter of fact, I don't think him or Mumford would be.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna sit there and say position

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Speaker 1: if you didn't dress enough, guys, these cats could help

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Speaker 1: you that way too. The thing about Mumford out of

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, he played left tackle his entire twenty twenty season,

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Speaker 1: and then he moved to left guard full time quote unquote,

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Speaker 1: back out there. Yeah as well, and he played better

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Speaker 1: se throughout the entire twenty twenty season. Yeah, and then

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Speaker 1: into twenty one. Who was the other guy you were

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Speaker 1: talking about there that was my guy a Ryan from

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Speaker 1: UCLA Ucla, Okay, wanted to clarify that real quick, but

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Speaker 1: I mean those are two guys that, like you said,

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Speaker 1: you hate the position flex tag because usually if you

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Speaker 1: have that musician, play has position flex because he's awesome,

639
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: because he's a badass guy can line up in places.

640
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: Tell me where he can kick, But Martin can do

641
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: Mumford had. Mumford had to play tackle because Petite Free,

642
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: who we talked about, who, yeah, who he like? I

643
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: think he sat out the game. They said, okay, we're

644
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: gonna kick you outside. So to make up for who

645
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: do you like more out of those two, petite Free

646
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: and then Mumford from Ohio State. I think on my board,

647
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: I put petite Free higher. Let me look real quick

648
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: here I have I do. I have Petite as a tackle,

649
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: and then I have Mumford. I had petite Free as

650
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: a as a two and then Mumford as a three.

651
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: Is what I've got. Guards who if you're going back

652
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: to second round guards, I'll throw out the name Zion Johnson,

653
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: even though I think he goes before that Siler from Georgia,

654
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: and so the guys in order. If you're looking at

655
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: a second round guard. For me, it's at Ingram at Lsu,

656
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: Darien knarda Kentucky, and then Jamari Sawyer, who is Georgia's

657
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: left tackle. But I think we'll be a guard in

658
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: the league because he's another one of those guys where

659
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: you're like, holy cow, look at this power. Yeah, but

660
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: when you're talking about being perfectly efficient with placement and

661
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: the movement skills, it's like, yeah, so put him in

662
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: the phone booth. Yeah. Uh so, I would say, ed Ingram,

663
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: Darien Kinnard Sawyer. What did you guys think about Kade

664
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: May's Have you gotten the chance to watch him yet?

665
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: Have not seen? I liked him at the Senior Bowl.

666
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: I'd I'd like for that. I would like to hear

667
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: what you guys think about him. Maybe next week or

668
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: two weeks from now, once we get back from the combine. Good,

669
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: good player, athletic guy and again position flex even though

670
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: we hate that term. I think he's a guard in

671
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: the league, but he played all five positions at Tennessee Transfer.

672
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: Did anybody have you watched Cole strange from at the

673
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl? I haven't gotten the same thing yet. Yeah,

674
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: all right, Cram linebackers today maybe I'll call him offensive

675
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: line the next couple. I know that just drives you nuts.

676
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: Cram from offensive line. How about how about that? That's

677
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: a deal I would make. He sent him times. Uh

678
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: have you seen Darian Beavers yet? Bro, I have not. Okay,

679
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: bes Se, well, we'll save that Connor. How about the Well,

680
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: we'll say that as you're as our assignment going into

681
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: the week, we're gonna look mister Beavers out of Cincinnati. Okay,

682
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: how about this? Is there anyone at twenty four or

683
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 1: fifty six that would be better than giving Randy Gregory

684
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: a new contract? This from Brad and basically asking could

685
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: you replace Brandy Gregory with you? Gotta this is the

686
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: hard part because you gotta tell me what does it

687
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: look like like. I could see a scenario where Aidan Hutchinson,

688
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: Cavon Thibadeau, George Carlota's Trayvon Walker, David Ojabo, Jermaine Johnson

689
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: are all gone. If those six are gone, then I

690
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: would say no, And I wouldn't bet on anybody outside

691
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: of the top two to be able to play at

692
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory's level as a rookie. So no. Now you're

693
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: also comparing apples to Oranges because Randy Gregory is about

694
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: to be on a second count or I guess it'll

695
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: be his third contract making a bunch of money, and

696
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: a rookie wouldn't make that at twenty four. But I

697
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: don't think you can replace Randy Gregory in the short term.

698
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: At twenty four, I don't believe you can do it, Okay,

699
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: So that means no at fifty six is At the

700
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: same time, Ran, do you think there's anybody and we

701
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: can make this a little easier because I agree with

702
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: you there's no way you replace him in the short term.

703
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: But long term, is there a guy? There's guys that

704
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: can develop? My boy a Mafe at Minnesota, Thinkitty at

705
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: Penn State. Like there's dudes that could develop, but not

706
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 1: ones that I'm wanting to pick in the first round

707
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: and trust him like that. I the guy that I think.

708
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: There's two names I think could replace Randy Gregory Logan Hall. No,

709
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: I mean I think that he's a defensive tackle. I know.

710
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: I think if you drafted Carloftus or Walker, I think

711
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: you could replace Randy. So you extend it to the

712
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: top four, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I said if if, if,

713
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: if you lose Randy. I would say, if Carloftus or

714
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: Walker were there, I think you could probably. I think

715
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: you could probably handle that. Is that something you'd feel

716
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: comfortable doing? I yeah, because I got both those guys

717
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: in the first round. In that scenario you're keeping TANK

718
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: would assume yeah, yeah. If you keep in Tank and

719
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: you said, Okay, we lost Randy, Carloftus is on the board,

720
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: do Walker? George is on the board, Boom. Either one

721
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: of those guys, I would go with it the one

722
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: who's the most interesting, And it depends where you look. Jabo, yes,

723
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: Ojabo could. He's the one. He could go thirty five,

724
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: he could go twenty four, and he is. This is

725
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: Michigan's other edge guy other than Aiden Hutchinson. And he's

726
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: got basically great athleticism. He's got long arms, and he's

727
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: got two ways he wins as a rusher. One's kind

728
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: of a eurostep to the outside, and he is an

729
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: inside spin move. And just from his athletic profile and

730
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 1: those two moves, he'll be a first round pick, no doubt.

731
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: It's a matter of what is he going to end

732
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: up as, because he may end up as a double

733
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: digit SAT guy that may happen, and I think he'll

734
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 1: be a designated pass rusher in year one, like that'd

735
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: be his job. He might rush the passer. If to

736
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 1: be honest with you, he might be the guy that's

737
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: really more like Randy right where it's just at one

738
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: with athletics, two hundred and fifty five pound guy, two

739
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: hundred fifty pound guy, whatever, And maybe it's the guy

740
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: winning with athletic ability, but is super super raw doing it.

741
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: I like that. So that's almost a direct comparison if

742
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: you wanted to look between the two, and if you're

743
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: going to that he's a stand up rusher. Two, I'm

744
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: thud down exactly nice. We discussed in previous shows the

745
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: difference between Nakobe Dean and Devin Lloyd. Dean out of Georgia,

746
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 1: Lloyd out of Utah. But if Lloyd is the pick,

747
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: how is he different than Jabril Cox. Cox is a

748
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: good coverage linebacker, you guys said, so as Lloyd tell

749
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: me about the big differences between the two. This comes

750
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 1: from Christopher. I think Devin Lloyd as a college player

751
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: is a better forward player than Jabril Cox. Like Jabril

752
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: Cox really shined covering tight ends and dropping back and

753
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: making plays in coverage, but I thought that he was

754
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: a pretty iffy run player in college. Devin Lloyd, I

755
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: feel like people are going to get the impression that

756
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: either I or we or whoever are lower on him

757
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: because of how much I love Nakobe Dean. Devin Lloyd's

758
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: a really good prospect. Like tons of backfield production. He's

759
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: not a take on guy against offensive lineman, but he

760
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: is a slippery, work my way through guy, So he's

761
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: got lots of backfield production. He makes plays in the

762
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: run game, he makes plays in the past game. I'm

763
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: a big Devin Lloyd fan. I just love Nikobe Dean's

764
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: instant acceleration and instincts. But I get it. The appeal

765
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: in the NFL is length plays at linebacker, so he

766
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: has all those good things. Then you add in sixty

767
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: three long and that's that's a good prospect. The thing

768
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 1: I could say about him over Cox is he'll make

769
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 1: every single tackle. Yeah, I couldn't say that about Cox, Okay,

770
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: and you know you watch Cox play at LSU and

771
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: I'm playing next to each other with Randy Rush or

772
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: Mica Russian, Let's go, they were there were We were

773
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: very critical of him playing the run last year. Yeah,

774
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: when we were talking about him coming out, and but

775
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: we were not critical about him covering people, which he

776
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: can absolutely do and he's shown that. But with Lloyd,

777
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 1: Jeff's got the player nailed. He will make every single

778
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: tackle if you leave him on block. I love him.

779
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: Brian says that I got a guy right. It's like

780
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: you got to pass the teacher, get you riled. I

781
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: don't know if that's a good thing. If I'm ever

782
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: telling you you're doing something right. According to Derek Eagleton,

783
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: you know we will. Yeah, we will have two or

784
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: three guys in this draft. I'm already aware of them.

785
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: We're just gonna be like, no, you're wrong. You're like

786
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: when you're wrong, and I have a super Bowl ring

787
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be like, dude. But it was a

788
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: long time ago. It was a long time ago. Yet

789
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: the ring is small now compared to what they do

790
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: now at the Yeah, for a draft that's been so unpredictable,

791
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: or at least it looks like it's gonna be unpredictable.

792
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: We've agreed on a lot of these guys so far.

793
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: We need to start. That's the way I think you

794
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: get some more Jalen peatrees up in here. The earlier

795
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna be picked, the easier it is for everyone

796
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 1: to agree. It's like, yeah, because that's why he's gonna

797
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: get picked there because we all and then on the

798
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: other guys, it's like, what do you see? So once

799
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: we get outside of the top one hundred, we're gonna

800
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: have some fun. I think even outside of the top

801
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: thirty or forty. You know, you know it's funny that

802
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: you say that because and you you brought up the

803
00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: name Maffe from Minna, Minnesota, and if you've seen people

804
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: talk about him as a first round pick. I know

805
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: I saw a third round a huge Yeah, that's what

806
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's funny because I reached out to Gang

807
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 1: of Seven. Those are my guys that I always kind

808
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: of bounced things off of, and I said, hey, I

809
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: had this MOFFI in the third round, and to a man,

810
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: they all went four four four. Him straddling those two rounds.

811
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: Because I'm like that he's actual guy. I was like,

812
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: I was amazed because I'm watching him rush against Petite

813
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: Furry and those guys. He's having some success and I'm going, man,

814
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: this guy's got some serious get off. I mean you

815
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: look at him, true, you know, run the backs out

816
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: and all that stuff like that, and you're watching him

817
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: make plays. He's six four, he's two fifty eight, and

818
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 1: every single one of these guys went four four four.

819
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: It's like I was playing golf four four. You know

820
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: that I kept him in the third. I think I

821
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: think the kid can run. I don't know how you

822
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: cannot have somebody that has that quick of a first

823
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: step and chase the ball the way he does. I mean,

824
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: Ohio State, you can product on the top hundred. We'll

825
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: go on the topic I should. I'm gonna fit one

826
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: more question in here before we take our second break.

827
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: Magneto on Twitter says, how about a guy in the

828
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: first seld rounds. It might be Magnetos, sir, it might

829
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: be for x Men, it might be Magneto, m ag

830
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: n Eto, that's Magneto. Okay, I'm sorry you have not

831
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: watched X Men. Nope, not not a long time, my friend,

832
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 1: young man. I'm sorry. Give me a guy in each

833
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: of the first three rounds. So we'll just kind of

834
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 1: lump that together. First one hundred picks that dan Quinn

835
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: would fight for at e long arm fast dbs, undersized,

836
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: speedy edge rushers, linebackers who are some dan Quinn guys

837
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: that he could potentially be on the table four. I

838
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: think we're gonna We're gonna do it next segment. But

839
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: I don't care because that's fine, go for it. I

840
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: watched it last night. Quaywalker is my top second round linebacker,

841
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: got it. Georgia's other linebacker number seven, and dan Quinn

842
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: will like because he is full size linebacker six three.

843
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: I don't have to wait in for two forty. And

844
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: he can run. He can't diagnose like Dean, but no

845
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: one can. But he's generally in the right idea of

846
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: what he's doing. He can run. He's a fluid athlete,

847
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: so there's the ability to drop in coverage. And when

848
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: he's rushing off the edge, you can see the length

849
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: because he'll single arm, straight arm and offensive tackle. Yeah.

850
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,919
Speaker 1: And this is an off ball linebacker. So I think

851
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: quay Walker is going to be one of those guys

852
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 1: that was pretty good in college and might be better

853
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But he's my guy. He's my number.

854
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: What are we picking up fifty six round? Quay Walker's

855
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: my guy. If we can get him there I have

856
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: a second round grade, early second round grade on him,

857
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: but he's my third linebacker because there's that much of

858
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: a drop off in terms of Dean Lloyd and then

859
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: I've got Walker as my third guy. What did you

860
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: think about him? I'll tell you what I mean me personally,

861
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: I fight. Yeah. No, I was going to give you

862
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: another name. I think Jeff's got the player. I think

863
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: you guys got the player right. I was gonna give

864
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: you Martin Emerson, the corner from Mississippi State, as a

865
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: long guy. But I'll circle back here and talk about

866
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 1: this outside linebacker since you guys are helping on doing that. Sure,

867
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: let me get to my notes here if I real quick.

868
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: I think the thing with Walker is he looks the

869
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,959
Speaker 1: part I kind of had him as an inside linebacker

870
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: is what I had him as, and I like the way.

871
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 1: I think he's much better when he can attack things

872
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: downhill some of his best players, or when he just

873
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 1: goes straight ahead and just burst through the gap. And

874
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: I think the thing there's he could really cover some

875
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: ground when he's when he goes into that attack mode,

876
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: powerful tackler, he's got some shock and popped to his hands. Uh.

877
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: They used him as a pass rusher, so I know

878
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: that probably got Jeff's attention a little bit as a blitzer.

879
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: But you know, when he you know, he tends to

880
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 1: kind of use his strength more than technique when that's

881
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: the case, but playing off blocks stuff like that. I

882
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: think the instincts to read and react to the ball

883
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: were good. But that rotating system though, you know, you

884
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: kind of see him in and out of line. But man,

885
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: he is a good looking guy on tape. I mean

886
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: physically you look at six four two forty five. He

887
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: clearly in a while he disappears and Channing tendles in. Yeah,

888
00:43:55,280 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: and then they all look they all But I yeah,

889
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: I absolutely I believe I had him in the third round.

890
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: Would you guys have him as two? I really like him.

891
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 1: He'll be probably a top forty guy for me. Uh yeah,

892
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 1: i'd probably say forty five fifty. I'm right there with you. Yeah,

893
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: I went third round with him. I actually had him

894
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: over Tindale is what. I had him considerably ahead. Martin Emberson,

895
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: you mentioned him out of Mississippi State. Yeah. I like

896
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: Emerson a lot. You know, he's listened to his six

897
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: one like two hundred and three pounds I think is

898
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: what But you watch him play on tape, he is

899
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: a really really long guy. He's a He starts as

900
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: the left corner, and you know, you could play him outside,

901
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: you could play him in the slot. I mean, he's

902
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: got that length in the burst. I mean for a guy,

903
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: he's really looks really long and thin on tape. But

904
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: I mean there were there were several times for LSU

905
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: tried to run a slant on him and every single

906
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: time he was there already make to play. I mean

907
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: every single time they could not get a guy inside

908
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: on him. And I think that's pretty impressive when you

909
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: could cover those inside routes, the running, the movement for

910
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: a tall guy, the flexibility of his game, it doesn't

911
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: take much for him to turn and go. So I

912
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: could see dan Quinn going down there to start field Mississippi,

913
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: maybe working out of Martin Emerson, and you know, kind

914
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: of looking at him as a potential third round guy.

915
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: I like that because that's a new name that we

916
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: haven't mentioned on this show yet. But you look at

917
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: and I haven't watched him yet, so take this with

918
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: a grain of salt. But he had the third highest

919
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: coverage grade in the SEC, according to PF. I mean,

920
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: of course PF's not the Bible by any means of

921
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: draft process. If he's there, I mean in terms of

922
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: coverage and and of course the length and the speed

923
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: and the way he's able to cover the middle of

924
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: the field, that's something that I think, of course dan

925
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: Quinn would certainly be excited about. All right, let's take

926
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: our second break. When we come back. Oh, I see him, Yeay, Magneto,

927
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928
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: or is he a bad guy? That's the question. Now

929
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go watch left It on a cliffhanger.

930
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: When we come back, we're giving our pre combine rankings

931
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,319
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932
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,160
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Speaker 1: Welcome back in to the Draft Show. No David Helman

974
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: this week. We'll be back from Indianapolis next week. A

975
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: couple of shows from the combine. Jeff uh You think

976
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: Brian brought us kind of more organized. Yeah, a little

977
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 1: bit better run. It's okay, we're kidding Dave. Dave Helman

978
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: is one of my best friends on planet Earth. Everyone

979
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: who doesn't know, he's a sweet sweet man. Do you

980
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: think Dave is sober right now? No, there's no, no,

981
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,720
Speaker 1: he said, Marty girl, he's he's sit down in Nola.

982
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: Do you think he's Do you think he has do

983
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: you every single bead? Yes? Do you think he'll be

984
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: sober at any point in the next week? No? No, Yeah,

985
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna show up on Monday combine. He'll be at

986
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: the combine. He'll be fine for that. We'll be fine

987
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 1: for the parts of it where yeah, just don't stand

988
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: next to him because yeah, he might he might have.

989
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: I feel like that first day might be a little tough. Yeah,

990
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: on Dave, I told him I would bring him some sunglasses,

991
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: I'd have a hangover beer ready for him. I'll give

992
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: him him a Crisp Miller Lite ready to go. Then

993
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: then we'll be good to go for the rest of

994
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: the week. So it should be a lot of fun.

995
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: Of course, we'll be getting David Hellman back. And for

996
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: those of you out here who have been asking and

997
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 1: asking and asking Dame Brugler is going to be on

998
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: the show next week. It was some shape fashion and

999
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: for wo so it will be happening. I believe we

1000
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: may have Bucky Brooks on at a couple times as well,

1001
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: So that's cool too. Getting the game back together in

1002
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: Indie and then we'll of course be back with Brian

1003
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: and Jeff in a couple of weeks to get there.

1004
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: K Hill, Oh, you're gonna get on. He's gonna be

1005
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: out there. I don't know. I might see Edge working

1006
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: for the Falcons now. He might be going to pop

1007
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: him on creating his own draft show. I would love

1008
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: to do that. I've never met Eds, so I'd love

1009
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: to go up and introduce yourself. Came up with all this,

1010
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: no doubt. I've heard he's the founding father. He is

1011
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: the founding father. All right. I'm trying to get Ed

1012
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: on the Draft show on Draft day to last, like

1013
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: after the last pick. Oh okay, o good, Yeah, that'd

1014
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: be awesome. I like it. Uh okay, So do you

1015
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: know how to pronounce any of the X men? I

1016
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: do not want to test this as like when Magneto

1017
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: is fighting Wolverine and Sicklips rouge. I think I've kept

1018
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: that one beat. Yeah, I don't think so. Um, it

1019
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: just hurt me. It just made me feel so old,

1020
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: you know, you realize she would at least the X Men. Well,

1021
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: there hasn't been a great X Man movie. Try doing

1022
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 1: radio with you five hours to day. There's never been

1023
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: a great X Men movie. But the comics in the

1024
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: old cartoon TV. Yeah, see, and I can't do that.

1025
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: Somebody had to take down the sentinels. They had to,

1026
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: That's true. Somebody had to do it. Pre combined rankings

1027
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 1: for a position of me trying to get a ton

1028
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: of names out there. We we've already gone through a

1029
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 1: little bit of interior offensive lines, so let's go ahead

1030
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: and skip over that just for time's sake. But Brian,

1031
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: give me your defensive tackle rankings at the moment, in

1032
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: terms of who you would like to see in order

1033
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: one through five or however many names you want to

1034
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: go deep, Well, you want ones or threes? Oh? I

1035
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 1: mean yeah Davis? Uh, My ones would be Davis from Georgia,

1036
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: Matthis from Alabama. Jones from Connecticut would be that side

1037
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: of it. Then, and then on the threes would be

1038
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: wyat Lyal Logan Hall, and then Winfrey and if I

1039
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: skipped down a little further than we start talking about Ridgeway, Ferrell,

1040
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: and Garrett would be my guys that I've kind of

1041
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: got down through the fourth round right now. And those

1042
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: are all one text, No, those are all those are

1043
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: those between that as of ones and threes is what

1044
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: those are? Okay? He named the first seven names that

1045
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: Brian said, and I think he has them all in

1046
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: the second round. I don't. I don't have any first round.

1047
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: Are the seven guys I have in the second round now?

1048
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: I have Logan Hall listed as an edge and I

1049
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: think he can do either. He could be an outside

1050
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: gag being inside guy. Travis Travis Jones for you as

1051
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: a second round player then right, absolutely, okay, yeah, absolutely,

1052
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: So here's my order and I actually have them all together.

1053
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: Ones in threes. I went with Jordan Davis by a

1054
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: hair as my top defensive tackle. DeVante Wyatt, his teammate

1055
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: the three technique, is right behind him. Travis Jones is

1056
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: my third defensive tackle, the Yukon one technique. De Marvin Leale,

1057
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: Texas A and M is my fourth defensive tackle, followed

1058
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: by first names. Here's at perryon Matthis h perryon Winfrey.

1059
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry Matthiss, Perry on Winfrey in that

1060
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: order is how I have the Winfree six, Matthis five

1061
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: is I which yes, leals four, even though I think

1062
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: he's like the seventh or eighth best tape, but it's

1063
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 1: the freaking athlete. Should he be in the third round

1064
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: on tape, he's probably a third rounder. But that's the

1065
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: whole game, right, The whole game is balanced tape versus

1066
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: traits versus what can you be? And then we figure

1067
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 1: out where to pick him in. So second round I

1068
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: have Davis Mathis, Winfree, Leale, Wyatt Jones. Those are my

1069
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 1: top six guys in that order. So I mean this

1070
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 1: is second tackle. Yeah, I like um and I like

1071
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: I like DeVante Wyatt too. I put him right there,

1072
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: touching tags with to Marvin Leal because of it's almost opposite.

1073
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 1: I like math or I like Wyatt's tape more than Leale,

1074
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: but Leale has the traits whereas Wyatt. I'm not as

1075
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: impressed by the traits so little. I think White has

1076
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 1: the best defensive tackle first step in this class. I agree,

1077
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: so like he's not the overall athlete that Georgia trigger

1078
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: everybody quick. Yes, he's not the overall athlete that Leale is.

1079
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: I don't think, and hell maybe the combine will tell

1080
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 1: me I'm wrong about that. Well. I think he relies

1081
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: on his explosiveness a little bit too much, that first step,

1082
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: and sometimes it kind of gets him in trouble because

1083
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: he's not the strongest guy in the class, even though

1084
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 1: his size is there. I put a comparison justin mattabeke

1085
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,959
Speaker 1: Is who he reminded me of who was the second

1086
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: round player. Yeah, this is Diviner Wyatt because he's not

1087
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: always doing the same thing Jordan Davis does where it's

1088
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: like playing square and trying to control And I'm like,

1089
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: maybe he is powerful enough to be a even a

1090
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: run stopping three while he's a penetrator. It just seems

1091
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: like on tape he's more the I'm exploding and let's

1092
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: see where I end up. That's where he plays the

1093
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: run because he's getting across the rom just slips through.

1094
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: He's like disruptive that way. That's why I think he

1095
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 1: could play the run. Yeah, let's go to cornerback. Who

1096
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: are your corners that you have looking out? And this

1097
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: could much like defensive tackle, get a little crazy in

1098
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: terms of the rankings that you've got there, Brian will

1099
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: start with you Gardner from Cincinnati, Stingley from LSU, mcduffee

1100
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: from Washington or all my first round guys. Okay, Carry

1101
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 1: from Auburn is my next guy. Elam from Florida than

1102
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: Booth from Clemson. In the second round, Elam, it's gonna

1103
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: be Emerson from Mississippi State, Gordon from Washington, and Kendrick

1104
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 1: from Georgia would be my third round guys. And then

1105
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: you get down into the fourth round, guys like Britt

1106
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: Taylor from Nebraska, Woolen from San Antonio, and then Marcus Jones,

1107
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 1: the little short Daddy from Houston would be my guys.

1108
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: I've seen so fun Short Daddy, he seemed more. He's

1109
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: seen more corners than I have. But I've got Sauce

1110
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: and Stingley as my ones. McDuffie as my cheater Grade

1111
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: one two. Booth out of Clemson is the top of

1112
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 1: the second YEP. Then McCreary, then Elam at Florida, then

1113
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 1: Kyler Gordon. I have Washington's other corner as my cheater

1114
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: two three scouts. The scouts say that he's better than

1115
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: actually McDuffie and which I'm like, really, Kyl, he's a

1116
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: full sized corner that they say is going to test

1117
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: off the charts. Yeah, and like he's got he's got

1118
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: some good tape. Not as good as McDuffie mcduffy. Are

1119
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: both going to test really well next week, right? I

1120
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,919
Speaker 1: think so? But Gordon I have his two three. And

1121
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: then I also watched Sauce Gardner's teammate Kobe Bryant him

1122
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: in the like him. Yeah, I've got him in the third,

1123
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: so I've got him a little higher. I liked him

1124
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl a lot, one of those guys

1125
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: that was kind of overshadowed by Gardner. And I want

1126
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: to talk about Gardner here in a second as well.

1127
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: But Kobe Bryant one of those let me pull up

1128
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: the scout in report, but he's one of those big, long,

1129
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: real laws corner linky. He was a leader on the field.

1130
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 1: I asked a couple of his teammates, my J Sanders

1131
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. I asked him, I was like,

1132
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: who would be one guy on your team that people

1133
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:45,240
Speaker 1: are overlooking? And he said Kobe Bryant. So that's coming

1134
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: from from him specifically, he was a Jim Thorpe Award winner.

1135
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:52,919
Speaker 1: I mean, he got some recognition, but still overshadowed by

1136
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: a mod Sauce Gardner. And he's kind of risen in

1137
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: popularity lately because the stats have started to come out

1138
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: in the coverage grades and stuff like that did not

1139
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 1: allow a single touchdown his entire collegiate career. Why is

1140
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: he now being considered a potential top corner in this

1141
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 1: class because I don't think we've talked in depth about

1142
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: him on this show just yet. So Sauce is. I

1143
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: think Brian and I might have been talking about this

1144
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: with Dane on Wednesday. YouTube dot com slash Jeff Kevinaugh.

1145
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner is when teams are gonna talk about Derek

1146
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,439
Speaker 1: Stingley have questions, right, ls use Derek Stingley is six

1147
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: foot give or take, super sticky, really good corner. Teams

1148
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: are gonna wonder what were you hurt? Hurt both times

1149
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: that you or were you did you lose? What is love? Football? Question? Yeah,

1150
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner is gonna measure at over six two. I

1151
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: don't know if he'll be six three because I've seen

1152
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: him training multiple times and he looks me about dead

1153
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: in the eye and I'm sixty three, okay, so he's

1154
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: gonna be a real life six three or a little

1155
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: bit less. And man, this dude wants to take your soul.

1156
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: He wants you to not want to run routes anymore.

1157
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: He is a press man corner that moves really well

1158
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: for that size, is super physical, wants to blow up

1159
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: the screen game. And I was told when he showed

1160
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: up to where he's doing his pre draft stuff at

1161
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: Exos that the cornerback room like it was a lot

1162
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: of humble, quiet learning sauce showed up and suddenly everybody

1163
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: was an alpha male. So like he is, he is

1164
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: going to rally bring you confidence. He is a really

1165
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: really good player that's going to bring it out of you. Two.

1166
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: I love that. I think this thing about Garner and

1167
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: the one thing I could say this game is not

1168
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: too big for him. He relishes the opportunity. I think

1169
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: Jeff nailed the player. I'll say this though, you talk

1170
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: about the alpha male, that's the question about Stingley, And

1171
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: if you talk to people who know the player very

1172
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: very well and you ask the questions about did you

1173
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,439
Speaker 1: really quit on LSU? Was he legitimately injured giants should

1174
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: take both of them and maybe Sauce can bring it

1175
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: out of Stingley. Yeah, that's that's the plan. That's the play.

1176
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: There are people will say that if you expect Stingley

1177
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: to be the alpha male in this thing and to

1178
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: be the leader and all that stuff like that, he

1179
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: really needs a big brother. He needs like, for example,

1180
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: if the if the Vikings were to sign resigned Patrick

1181
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: Peterson and then and then somehow Gardner or Excumi that

1182
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: Stingley ends up at Minnesota, then you're going to have

1183
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: like that's the best case scenario right there. Not just

1184
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: because of the LSU guys, but but they say Stingley

1185
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: needs a big brother to kind of get him along

1186
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: because he's not going to be the guy that's going

1187
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: to stand up there. The learning curve as far as

1188
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: the leader and all that stuff is really really steep

1189
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: for him. Whereas you watch Gardner and like Jeff was

1190
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: talking about, he goes and works out with these other corners,

1191
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: the level of the room raises because he's the confident

1192
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: player and he's actually I think he's the best corner

1193
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: in the draft myself. Definitely gonna hear his name a

1194
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: little bit early on it. He's starting to get into

1195
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: that category of maybe not going to be there at

1196
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: twenty four. Ye he wasn't on the initial list that

1197
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: we talked about the other week. What he is now?

1198
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: He was? He was, Yeah, I'm sure we might have

1199
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: said ever a mod or gardener, but I bet we

1200
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: said sauce. That's probably what it was. One got it

1201
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: all right? That does it for us here on the

1202
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: Draft Show. Gentlemen, I could do this for a whole

1203
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: another hour. I could do this for twelve more hours. Yeah,

1204
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: let's just so easy. Let's do it. Yeah, let's just

1205
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: double it up. All right. We'll be back throughout the

1206
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: middle of next week live from Indianapolis in the NFL

1207
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: Scouting Combine. We'll be back with Brian and jeffed a

1208
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: couple of weeks from now. But that does it for us,

1209
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: for Chris be even the back Jeff Cavanaugh, Brian brought

1210
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: us some Kyle Yeoman. See you next time on the

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