Speaker 1: Welcome to talking coffee. I'm so happy to be here
Speaker 1: talking about coffee. Same yes, Orn and derekay with me
Speaker 1: as usual.
Speaker 2: I really need to talk about coffee because if we're
Speaker 2: talking about coffee, we're not talking about what else is
Speaker 2: going on in the world.
Speaker 3: It's the most neutral, positive topic.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's net positive for sure. And generally speaking, we
Speaker 2: don't have to do politics at all. Right, Yeah, unless
Speaker 2: they do worm their.
Speaker 1: Way in, unless they intersect. Sometimes they do. Not today, folks,
Speaker 1: not today, state Satan. Today is just coffee, Just coffee.
Speaker 1: I need it, man. The news has been a lot.
Speaker 4: It's been a lot. That's been true for a long time.
Speaker 2: When has that not been true? You have to go
Speaker 2: back years. It's true. But I don't know in particular.
Speaker 2: You know, I just got back from Correspondence weekend.
Speaker 1: That was a lot.
Speaker 2: D You were covering it, was there covering it on
Speaker 2: the air live for four and a half hours.
Speaker 1: It was a lot.
Speaker 2: I'm just the timeline never stops timelining, right, Yeah, the
Speaker 2: news cycle never stops. News cycling truly relentless.
Speaker 3: Just what do you think, like, what else could possibly
Speaker 3: happen or go wrong?
Speaker 2: Yes, so I'm psyched I'm psyched to be here talking
Speaker 2: about my favorite thing. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, cheers coffee coffee.
Speaker 2: We're going to start by revisiting a news story that
Speaker 2: we talked about. I think the last time we did
Speaker 2: talk in coffee where we discovered something called pocket coffee.
Speaker 1: You remember hearing about that.
Speaker 4: I have not been I have not stopped thinking about it.
Speaker 2: Just to remind, there was a writer at a place
Speaker 2: called Taste of Home and she discovered pocket coffee, and
Speaker 2: she she talked about the things when she heard about
Speaker 2: pocket coffee, the things she thought it could be to
Speaker 2: her fresh people's memory. She said, maybe it was a
Speaker 2: Starbucks coffee size that's smaller than tall, but larger than
Speaker 2: a pup cup, So a pocket coffee.
Speaker 1: Just bigger than a pupcup.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: She thought maybe it was a tubek pouch of coffee,
Speaker 1: similar to gogurt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, makes sense.
Speaker 2: I think that's what I thought it was like to
Speaker 2: go coffee in, like a pouch.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Or she thought it was a teeny tiny portable coffee
Speaker 2: mug like an espresso cup size, yetti tumbler.
Speaker 3: That's you, I.
Speaker 1: Want one of those. Yes, it's none of those things.
Speaker 1: She discovered.
Speaker 2: It's a chocolate candy made by Frere Rochet and it's
Speaker 2: a hard chocolate shell with liquid espresso inside, approximately a
Speaker 2: shotsworth of liquid espresso.
Speaker 1: That sounds like a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it does sound like the full bar, like in
Speaker 4: one bar. It's like one piece or is one piece
Speaker 4: one piece?
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Okay, we're gonna find out, because yes, this
Speaker 2: genius invention comes courtesy of Italy.
Speaker 1: For Che introduced pocket coffee in nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 3: Oh, we're just learning about them now.
Speaker 1: According to Laura.
Speaker 2: It was conceived by Mikola Ferrero's assistant William Salic. As
Speaker 2: new rest stops sprung up along Italian roadways to refuel
Speaker 2: both cars and guests, he noticed a lack of coffee bars.
Speaker 2: Thus the concept of a truly on the go espresso
Speaker 2: shot was created. This was before the to go coffee
Speaker 2: and there's such a I don't know if you guys
Speaker 2: are interested in any of this, but like there's this.
Speaker 1: In Italy.
Speaker 2: There's this culture around the road stop coffee place. And
Speaker 2: in fact, when these came about in like the nineteen
Speaker 2: twenties and thirties, as the autobahns sort of expanded, the
Speaker 2: best architects in Italy designed these buildings.
Speaker 1: This is inside.
Speaker 2: They're so viby, so if some so still stand the
Speaker 2: originals and now they're just like giant, you know, like
Speaker 2: the equivalent of like a you know, a rest stop, yeah,
Speaker 2: kind of along ninety five the yeah, sprawling restant all things.
Speaker 1: But they're like.
Speaker 2: Elite and in Italy, like you get like the best
Speaker 2: sandwiches you've ever had. You know, everything's fresh. You can
Speaker 2: get a like pasta bar, like much better than our
Speaker 2: roadside stop. And the coffee is like top notch.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, in Italy, what side of the road
Speaker 4: you drive on? Is it right? Okay? Good? Then that
Speaker 4: that seals it. Yeah, I need to go to Italy
Speaker 4: for a road for a road trip. You got the
Speaker 4: amazing I.
Speaker 2: Mean, Johan and I we've been several times, but one
Speaker 2: time in particular, somewhere before we got we got to Genoa,
Speaker 2: we stopped at this place and we had like the
Speaker 2: best ham and sheet like parma pannini. Yes, so simple,
Speaker 2: but like the best ingredients. You go there's like these
Speaker 2: fresh bakery cases with like canoli and like it's elite.
Speaker 2: They have chefs, chefs that you've heard of if you're
Speaker 2: in Italy, like overseeing the menus at these places.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a must.
Speaker 2: It's a musk stop, but no one tells you you
Speaker 2: got to go to the rest stops in Italy, but
Speaker 2: you do me.
Speaker 3: Isn't it in Japan? Like seven eleven is oh yes,
Speaker 3: they get really.
Speaker 4: Food, you get great food and seven.
Speaker 2: Eleven yeah yeah, So I love the backstory of this,
Speaker 2: but it's definitely time to taste it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They don't sell them here in the States, but you
Speaker 2: can order them.
Speaker 1: And so I did.
Speaker 4: You had you had a guy?
Speaker 1: I ordered them.
Speaker 2: I did, so I haven't opened them yet, but I
Speaker 2: got one came as eighteen pieces of candy.
Speaker 1: This is five pieces of candy.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, Oh I was. I was picturing like like
Speaker 4: a bar and that's.
Speaker 3: Where maybe they're individually wrapped.
Speaker 4: So so a shot of espresso in each one.
Speaker 1: WHOA, I don't know.
Speaker 2: So we're going to hear you open this small one,
Speaker 2: all open this big one, and we'll look at how
Speaker 2: they're packaged and side.
Speaker 3: This is adorable. It does have a nineteen sixties feel
Speaker 3: it like the packaging so it's like red and brown.
Speaker 3: I don't know the lettering, the pocket cost lettering.
Speaker 2: So these are astorable little they look like little that
Speaker 2: you would get over Halloween, like the little Hershey, the nuggets, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yes, the fancy ones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, we have to say we have this a
Speaker 2: little adorable.
Speaker 3: Okay, yours has a nice little like gift box.
Speaker 1: Feel this this big one. Yes, yes, adorable gift gift
Speaker 1: box fives.
Speaker 4: Okay, it's small that it's it's so small that I'm
Speaker 4: surprised at an espresso shots. Yeah, but maybe it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm curious, like, is it going to be liquid?
Speaker 1: I also want to.
Speaker 4: Know it says liquid center, right.
Speaker 1: I want to know is this like dark chocolate? Is
Speaker 1: it going to be dark?
Speaker 3: Does it say in the box? I can't read it anymore.
Speaker 4: It looks pretty dark, which it doesn't look like yeah under.
Speaker 2: Arabica. Is that how we pronounce that? Yeah, that's the bean.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna smell it.
Speaker 3: M let's have the full experience.
Speaker 4: It actually smells really good. Stark chocolate can smell both
Speaker 4: the chocolate and the and the coffee.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, I'm not I'm not a big chocolate fan,
Speaker 2: but we're gonna this is exciting.
Speaker 1: Okay, it is exciting.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take a bite.
Speaker 1: You can bite and a half, I guess.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 2: It feels way too big to pop into my mind now.
Speaker 2: But then I'm I'm gonna get it on my shirt
Speaker 2: me too.
Speaker 3: Oh, very liquid, whoa, oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Oh rich oh oh. And there's a crunch yeah mm hmm.
Speaker 4: That's liberty.
Speaker 2: I don't know if the camera will capture this, but
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it. Yeah, hold on one, chuck out.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It tastes a little bit like you're eating coffee beans.
Speaker 1: The chocolate is throwing me. The esposo tastes great. Okay,
Speaker 1: watch if you come.
Speaker 3: He's holding up her notes, he's taking the shop.
Speaker 4: You're holding for the listeners. You're holding up your notes
Speaker 4: as a bib. And then you just basically poured the
Speaker 4: liquid directly into your mouth.
Speaker 3: I did, and there was a lot of liquid. There
Speaker 3: was was already your half.
Speaker 1: And let me tell you, that doesn't taste like espresso.
Speaker 1: It's very sweet and syrupy.
Speaker 4: It is very sweet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't just taste like strong coffee.
Speaker 3: No, it must have already been mixed with chocolate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it does.
Speaker 3: You're right, it does taste too.
Speaker 2: And there is like a crunch layer some kind in there, yeah,
Speaker 2: which I appreciate.
Speaker 3: I wonder what that.
Speaker 2: I'm glad this whole thing is not like dense chocolate.
Speaker 2: It's like a chocolate shell with a crunch layer and
Speaker 2: then liquid.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I liked it.
Speaker 3: I liked it too. Yeah, it was good.
Speaker 2: It was I don't know that this would be my
Speaker 2: go to Yeah, no for either chocolate or or espresso.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was a pleasant taste. I'm wondering, Derek. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because she compared it to the Trader Joe's.
Speaker 4: I know, and I intended to get some so that
Speaker 4: we could try that in comparison. I failed to bring any.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but those are easily yeah, readily.
Speaker 4: Well, I'll bring those next time we record. I was
Speaker 4: thinking about that because in that it's literally just an
Speaker 4: espresso bean that is covered in chocolate. Yeah, And so
Speaker 4: it's it's much more crunchy. There's no like liquid aspects.
Speaker 4: There's a very it's very texture wise, it's very different.
Speaker 1: But what about flavor wise?
Speaker 4: Flavor wise it is pretty similar. I would say, okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: yeah that that. I like that, And I love chocolate,
Speaker 4: and so I love the mix of chocolate and coffee together.
Speaker 4: It's nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really like hazel nut and coffee together. I
Speaker 2: think i'd really love this if for a rochet did
Speaker 2: a hazel nut version.
Speaker 3: Well, they do that amazing hazelnut chocolate they do like
Speaker 3: they are the top.
Speaker 4: Do they have a coffee version?
Speaker 1: Would that would be great?
Speaker 4: Best?
Speaker 1: That would be great that I would do that.
Speaker 3: I would love Yeah, I think this is nice. I
Speaker 3: mean I love chocolate too. I would. I would definitely
Speaker 3: eat this like after lunch, which is we have like
Speaker 3: a small container lever from Christmas still holding on of
Speaker 3: the chocolate espresser beans. I just always forget them. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and sometimes I take like a handful for eat lunch.
Speaker 1: Well, sometimes you need a little a little something sweet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not like a huge sweet person, but when
Speaker 2: I've had like a garlikie.
Speaker 1: Lunch, I want a little something sweet. This would be
Speaker 1: really nice.
Speaker 4: I wonder if the if the crunch of the thing
Speaker 4: we just tried is from like crunched up bean.
Speaker 3: No, it feels very familiar, very similar to the espresso
Speaker 3: yeah bean hm Trader Joe situation.
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, I'm getting I'm getting notes of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like it must be, yeah.
Speaker 4: As opposed to like, I guess what else it could
Speaker 4: the crunch be. It could be just like a cracker
Speaker 4: kind of thing, Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think it is because it was grainy enough.
Speaker 4: It was grainy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it held up like a cracker would get soggy,
Speaker 3: right some degree.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: I can't feel like it is read any as he's
Speaker 2: trying to read the Italian back of the.
Speaker 1: I mean, no, it's in German.
Speaker 2: It's in German, German Italian. I could probably handle that.
Speaker 2: This is coffee specialize.
Speaker 4: It was English on the wrapper, which which and all
Speaker 4: I said was like there's liquid in here, which which
Speaker 4: is very funny because they're like, Okay, this is for
Speaker 4: a European audience. But the people that would be dumb
Speaker 4: enough to just put it in their mouth English, there's.
Speaker 1: Liquid in here. Yeah, I'm sure that wasn't.
Speaker 4: Okay, well bring that in.
Speaker 3: Feel the sugar coursing through my body the espresso, is it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: You guys can definitely take these home and enjoy those.
Speaker 2: Okay, those belong to you now, Okay, next item.
Speaker 1: Of coffee news.
Speaker 2: Okay, we have a complicated relationship with brand tie ins.
Speaker 1: Yes, don't we This comes up from time to time.
Speaker 3: I don't always work.
Speaker 1: They don't. They don't always.
Speaker 2: I don't do they ever work Sometimes I guess they
Speaker 2: sometimes work.
Speaker 4: I'm excited to hear whatever you whenever you have this time.
Speaker 2: At first, when I saw this, I did one of
Speaker 2: my typical guffaws. But actually, as I read into it
Speaker 2: makes more sense. The Devil Wears product to okay is
Speaker 2: partnering with.
Speaker 4: Starbucks brand new movie.
Speaker 1: If you recall the.
Speaker 2: First one, Starbucks was a heavy player, right getting Miranda's coffee.
Speaker 2: Emily Blunt would call in Hathaway, Miranda wants her her coffee,
Speaker 2: her Starbucks piping hot. Yeah yeah, so yeah, okay, this
Speaker 2: makes more sense to me than white Lotus Pina Colada.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I would not say coffee showcased in that TV series
Speaker 3: at all.
Speaker 2: At all or para Why this actually, there's this makes
Speaker 2: a little sense. So if you like Starbucks, just like
Speaker 2: if you're a Starbucks drinker, if you're one of those people,
Speaker 2: you can go and there's a Devil Wars proud a
Speaker 2: menu and the menu is drinks that they imagine the
Speaker 2: main characters would have. Okay, okay, so uh, it's funny.
Speaker 2: They do a really cute write up. The lead to
Speaker 2: this story says, you think this has nothing to do
Speaker 2: with you. You go to Starbucks, you order an oat
Speaker 2: mill cappuccino with caramel and cinnamon, because you've decided you're
Speaker 2: above caring about your coffee order. But what you don't
Speaker 2: realize is that coffee, much like Cerulean sweaters, is never
Speaker 2: just coffee is good. In case you're blithely unaware, when
Speaker 2: you order that oatmelk cappuccino with caramel and cinnamon, you're
Speaker 2: actually ordering Andy's cappuccino.
Speaker 1: Apparently they're Candy. Andy would order.
Speaker 2: A oat milk cappuccino with caramel and cinnamon.
Speaker 1: I don't read that from her at all. The hard
Speaker 1: nos journalist drink a black coffee, but the guy caramel. No,
Speaker 1: that's that's odd. That's an odd sort.
Speaker 3: Of She did live in the burrows, and that to
Speaker 3: me could read oat.
Speaker 1: Milk, the old milk. I don't have a problem with.
Speaker 3: Not the caramel, it's it's the it's.
Speaker 2: The caramel and cinnamon that does not at all. Okay,
Speaker 2: Emily is order is an iced chi latte with almond
Speaker 2: milk and sugar free caramel. Here's what I like about that,
Speaker 2: the sugar free She was really watching her figure.
Speaker 1: She made a big deal about it.
Speaker 2: She was one stomach flew away from her GOALWVE I
Speaker 2: remember best line.
Speaker 1: It was a great line. So an iced chi lat
Speaker 1: She's an iced girl.
Speaker 2: She wants to drink it fast, she's got limited times,
Speaker 2: she's always on the.
Speaker 1: I get that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that is.
Speaker 1: A great Emily drink order.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Miranda Priestley Meryl Streep's character, Ye prefers an
Speaker 2: extra shot, extra hot, no foam cafe latte with non
Speaker 2: fat milk.
Speaker 3: I feel like that tracks as well. I feel like
Speaker 3: we know that order.
Speaker 2: This is a person of extreme privilege. She is going
Speaker 2: to make a complicated order. It's going to be to
Speaker 2: her exact specifications, and you know it's she's returning it
Speaker 2: if it's not exactly how she wants it.
Speaker 3: Or Andy will return it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or Andy will return it or other Emily. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll return it. That's great.
Speaker 2: Finally we've got Nigel Stanley Sugi's character, and he goes
Speaker 2: for a dopeio espresso conana, which is two espresso shots
Speaker 2: pulled over mocha sauce and topped with whipped cream.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know about the whip cream or the mocha.
Speaker 3: I would I would believe that he would choose an
Speaker 3: Italian Yes he would.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, he was.
Speaker 3: Aimed orte an Italian type of coffee. But I think
Speaker 3: you lost me athy whip.
Speaker 2: The whipped cream because remember when they're in the cafeteria
Speaker 2: line and she's got like some kind of showder and
Speaker 2: he's like, hmmm, like not since uh not since four
Speaker 2: became the new two and two became the new zero whatever,
Speaker 2: Like he was making fun of anyone eating. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, basically he would never have whipped cream.
Speaker 1: Chocolate or chocolate, right. I think he would do an
Speaker 1: Italian adope yo period.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's fine. I'm not mad at this cross.
Speaker 4: That's fine. And by the way, I'm so happy for
Speaker 4: Ellen Brush mckinna, the writer of Devils Prada. I'm happy
Speaker 4: that she's getting a new movie because I'm such a
Speaker 4: fan of the show Crazy ex Girlfriend. Did you guys
Speaker 4: watch that show she made? Cole made that show with
Speaker 4: Rachel Bloom? Wait?
Speaker 1: Did she write?
Speaker 2: Because Lauren Weisberger wrote the first one I went to
Speaker 2: school with her. Oh, but but are you saying she
Speaker 2: wrote the screen the screenplay.
Speaker 4: Yes, no, wait, maybe they co wrote the screen play together.
Speaker 4: We can cut this.
Speaker 1: She might have written the screenplay for the first was
Speaker 1: a screenplayer on Lauren's book book.
Speaker 4: Yes, she wrote the screenplay of both films.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay.
Speaker 4: And she also co created the show Crazy Aest Girlfriend,
Speaker 4: which is really great, which is really good and talks
Speaker 4: about mental health a lot.
Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, you should watch it. Okay, the name is
Speaker 3: supposed to be like a misnomer.
Speaker 4: But you went to you went to school with the
Speaker 4: author of the book.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she went to Cornell.
Speaker 4: Oh that's incredible.
Speaker 3: Guess what I sent This is another Cornell segue. But
Speaker 3: I sent your Sarah Spain episode to my best friend Molly,
Speaker 3: who went to Cornell, was in Sarah Spain's year and
Speaker 3: actually knows her best friends with her best friend Kate. Okay,
Speaker 3: And then I was going to say that to Sarah,
Speaker 3: but then I felt weird, so I just kept it
Speaker 3: to myself.
Speaker 4: I really enjoyed that episode. That was a fun conversation.
Speaker 1: It was great.
Speaker 3: And I talk about this to my my college friends,
Speaker 3: and I always like reminisce about college in this way
Speaker 3: that we feel like this is unique to us in
Speaker 3: some way. So it was, and that's obviously false.
Speaker 2: But it was so nice and adorable to hear you
Speaker 2: and Sarah talk so specifically about diner Nells and then
Speaker 2: like to feel like I was so in that conversation.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Like and it
Speaker 2: didn't matter that like I didn't go there. It's like,
Speaker 2: you know, you just it's like you're in the club
Speaker 2: and you want to hear people talk about that club
Speaker 2: that you're related to.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just funny completely.
Speaker 2: But also, you know, I talk about Cornell from time
Speaker 2: to time, but I don't think.
Speaker 1: We've had on someone.
Speaker 2: We've had on people with Cornell connections, but I don't
Speaker 2: think we've had on someone who went to Cornell while
Speaker 2: I was there. Yeah, and even though we didn't meet,
Speaker 2: we didn't know each other, like we had the same experience.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know.
Speaker 2: That's changed, like Cornell's changed since I was there, and
Speaker 2: it was different twenty years before I was there, but
Speaker 2: we were there at the same time.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So when we were talking about like the pumpkin on the
Speaker 2: top of mrraw Tower or like the dining halls like
Speaker 2: that was our experience and it was so fun.
Speaker 3: It was also really great, a great era because it's
Speaker 3: before cell phones. Yeah, like we talk about this, not
Speaker 3: to take a total segue, but we talk about this
Speaker 3: of like college, how we how did we connect with
Speaker 3: one another. We just sort of like went out into
Speaker 3: the world and accidentally fent. We called it the amiba,
Speaker 3: like we would find people and then like somehow end
Speaker 3: up somewhere else and you were meant to hang out
Speaker 3: with the people you hung out.
Speaker 1: With, but you saw right, it was so organic.
Speaker 2: I remember having to, like, you know, you'd find a
Speaker 2: computer lab to check your email during the day in
Speaker 2: case someone was trying to get in touch with you
Speaker 2: about like plans for tonight or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yes, but like that was it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was it, and yeah.
Speaker 1: You had to.
Speaker 2: It reminds me of I was watching like Master's coverage
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, whenever the Masters was and
Speaker 2: they were saying, because there's no phones, you have to
Speaker 2: make your plans with your friends in advance. Wow, we're
Speaker 2: going to meet at this tree in advance because you
Speaker 2: have no way.
Speaker 1: Of getting in touch with people.
Speaker 4: And I was like that reminds me of college, your
Speaker 4: map quest meeting.
Speaker 3: Yeah quest, Yeah, I got so much map quests.
Speaker 1: We couldn't create that environment again, you you just can't.
Speaker 1: I know, it was such magic.
Speaker 4: Well, when the when the system completely breaks and all
Speaker 4: the powers out and everything forever, then we'll go back.
Speaker 2: We'll go back, and you know what will be the
Speaker 2: only generational live that knows how to handle it?
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, right, listful, we will know what.
Speaker 2: To do in those situations, and it'll involve intly folded notes.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, exactly. Okay. Speaking of Trader Joe's, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you saw this news this week.
Speaker 4: I'm nervous.
Speaker 2: Four customers are suing Trader Joe's over coffee labels.
Speaker 1: Oh but this is crazy.
Speaker 2: Four customers have filed a class action lawsuit against Trader Joe's,
Speaker 2: requesting the company correct it's coffee labels, alleging that it
Speaker 2: skimped buyers on caffeine and failed to label one of
Speaker 2: its coffee products as DCAF.
Speaker 4: Oh right, that's alarming.
Speaker 2: Yes, so when I saw this, I thought, oh, they
Speaker 2: didn't put caffeine on a label, right, No, it's they
Speaker 2: didn't put DCAF on.
Speaker 4: A way they should have yes, okay.
Speaker 1: So okay, so you get your coffee, you're expecting caffeinated, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how did they even figure them out?
Speaker 1: How did they figure that out?
Speaker 3: Thank you?
Speaker 1: That is the question.
Speaker 3: I think there's also a placebo effect with most things
Speaker 3: that I drank.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always feel caffeinated, whether I'm having decaff.
Speaker 3: It's a tiny bit of caffeine, and I told us
Speaker 3: in the previous news and.
Speaker 2: In this there is, but it's got something like half
Speaker 2: the amount of caffeine as regular caffeinated coffee.
Speaker 3: Still, that's a lot of caffeine for something called decaf.
Speaker 2: And for someone to notice, yeah, this is decap, this
Speaker 2: is decaf.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Is this the same person who drinks like twenty one cups.
Speaker 2: Of coffee a day and wouldn't notice No, But like I,
Speaker 2: I would notice if I'm expecting decaf, I would notice caffeinated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I don't know that I'd ever notice.
Speaker 3: No. So I'm tired all the time.
Speaker 1: And then pretend and then let's pretend I did notice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's pretend I noticed. Yeah, this trader dose coffee is not.
Speaker 2: Hitting and giving me the jolts that I that I
Speaker 2: want Yeah, what do I do?
Speaker 3: I just don't get it. Yeah, I move on, I
Speaker 3: move on with.
Speaker 4: Bilet tested it. They're like, no, I'm going to send
Speaker 4: us to the lab. Let's get someone.
Speaker 1: That's what I want to know, because I mean this.
Speaker 2: According to documents were viewed by USA Today, the customers
Speaker 2: argue that fully caffeated coffee is typically not labeled as such,
Speaker 2: and instead companies only label products that have reduced caffeine content. Therefore,
Speaker 2: the coffee at Trader Dose is not labeled decaf. Because
Speaker 2: of this, customers who buy the coffee think they're purchasing
Speaker 2: a fully caffeinated product. According to documents, North Carolina based
Speaker 2: coffee competitor, Pure Roast coffee competitor.
Speaker 1: Conducted testing.
Speaker 2: As part of a February twenty twenty five lawsuit that
Speaker 2: allegedly showed the coffee contains less than half of the
Speaker 2: caffeine of regular blend.
Speaker 4: Maybe they just tested like a bunch of brands to
Speaker 4: try to see which one after.
Speaker 3: That's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy the time.
Speaker 4: You're in a religious society, for sure.
Speaker 2: That's law firm Law Firm of Bryce and Harris suit
Speaker 2: you and DeMay is representing the four customers who are
Speaker 2: from California, New York, and Illinois.
Speaker 3: Had a bit then find those customers. I think I
Speaker 3: think they did that first, and then they find the
Speaker 3: customers for the like do you want to lead?
Speaker 4: But it is a pretty significant thing. I mean, they
Speaker 4: are arguing a legit thing.
Speaker 1: You have mislabeled a product.
Speaker 2: It's so funny when I lived in DC, you know,
Speaker 2: you mean all kinds of people in d C. And
Speaker 2: a friend of a friend we went out to lunch
Speaker 2: with one day and she was the lawyer that does this,
Speaker 2: that make sure that commercials say the right things about
Speaker 2: the products, to make sure labels are right. And you know,
Speaker 2: it's a whole it's a whole science and an art form, right,
Speaker 2: so there are people.
Speaker 1: That just that and yeah, that should be again, that should.
Speaker 2: Be I don't know crying is right, but like that,
Speaker 2: that shouldn't be okay to just label something, especially with
Speaker 2: a drug. It's involving a drug, a drug, Okay, you
Speaker 2: should definitely tell us whether it's in there or not,
Speaker 2: how much drugs are in this?
Speaker 1: Tell us.
Speaker 4: This is some middle school like oregano in the marijuana bag?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, okay, so we'll see how that shakes out.
Speaker 4: I hear I should say the marijuana thing. Anyway, someone told.
Speaker 2: You, all right, there's a five best grocery store coffee
Speaker 2: beans list out.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: Because you know, we all of our preferred coffee shop,
Speaker 2: coffee preveyor, but most people get their coffee from the
Speaker 2: grocery store and make it at home, right, And I
Speaker 2: love that.
Speaker 1: I love that for people. So this is a good list.
Speaker 2: I was pleasantly surprised by it. Okay, sure you can
Speaker 2: guess with that, because yeah, there's.
Speaker 3: Grocery stores are so regional.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm familiar with everything on this list. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean it's available everywhere. But I think the
Speaker 2: point was to put things on here that are available everywhere. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and all of the things on this list they say
Speaker 2: are available on Amazon Target as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, and grocery store coffee. I will say, I'm
Speaker 4: maybe kind of boogie when it comes to coffee beans
Speaker 4: that I like to get. But I have been disappointed
Speaker 4: in the past by the just like the beans that
Speaker 4: I get at a grocery store, so I would appreciate
Speaker 4: a list like this. Do you remember the disappointed I
Speaker 4: don't remember the beans that disappointed me. But I will
Speaker 4: say I have noticed that Target has like maybe maybe
Speaker 4: I just noticed it now, but they have seemingly increased
Speaker 4: their variety of beings I offer, and I noticed a
Speaker 4: lot of them are kind of like specialty, like kind
Speaker 4: of get to me, like I'm oh, that's like a
Speaker 4: specialty shop. I'm gonna try this and then I take
Speaker 4: it home and I often do enjoy it. I've tried
Speaker 4: a number of brands from that I've gotten from Target
Speaker 4: that way, and a lot of them are actually like
Speaker 4: local New York. So I wonder if like big chain
Speaker 4: stores have like you know, relationships, Yeah, which.
Speaker 1: Would be cool.
Speaker 2: But what of the brands Cafe Bustello, Espresso, Gram Coffee.
Speaker 3: You see the yellow Canada.
Speaker 2: Like yellow with like black writing, Yeah, that looks very
Speaker 2: like traditional and good. Yeah, well apparently it is Stump
Speaker 2: Town Hall or Mountain Organic Blend.
Speaker 3: I've heard of that, and it's good. I mean, I've
Speaker 3: never Yeah, I will be choosy when I go to
Speaker 3: the grocery store, and that is a choosy one.
Speaker 4: That's one.
Speaker 2: Okay, the Whole Foods Market organic Early Bird blend, they
Speaker 2: like that, doesn't I've never had any Whole Foods coffee.
Speaker 3: I don't think I have either.
Speaker 1: Duncan original blends.
Speaker 4: Okay, you don't have to mess with.
Speaker 1: It's in the grocery store, that's what you want.
Speaker 2: And the last one, I think to your point, Derek,
Speaker 2: because they say this one, especially as available at Target,
Speaker 2: is the Illy classically is.
Speaker 1: That very like high end to tell?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, I l l yeah yeah, the silver
Speaker 3: and red.
Speaker 2: You got it exactly right. So you can get that
Speaker 2: at Target apparently. And that's that's a good one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was.
Speaker 3: I think that was when I go TOOS for a
Speaker 3: while Philly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a good list. I think that's
Speaker 1: it's a good list. Okay, this is fascinating. This is fascinating.
Speaker 2: The headline of the story is there's a reason younger
Speaker 2: generations are fanatical about iced coffee.
Speaker 3: Mm because of you.
Speaker 4: Of Africa.
Speaker 1: I'm a fen.
Speaker 2: They don't mean I am not young in this version
Speaker 2: of events, okay, but it makes me feel young.
Speaker 3: That I I have been good something for.
Speaker 1: Ice coffee since I was fourteen.
Speaker 2: Right, you were a head of evangelizing ice coffee at fourteen. Okay,
Speaker 2: so I am responsible in a way for some of this,
Speaker 2: but it's so fascinating if you thought about some of
Speaker 2: the reasons why gen Z, for example, would be way
Speaker 2: more into iceed coffee than older generations. Like what would
Speaker 2: some of those reasons be, Hmmm, ice like straws.
Speaker 4: Oh, people like straws.
Speaker 3: Straws, their own reusable straws.
Speaker 4: I actually would be surprised because I feel like gen
Speaker 4: Z is always talking about how they're broke, you know,
Speaker 4: and like ice coffee is going to be that means
Speaker 4: that a person had to make the coffee typically, and
Speaker 4: so it's gonna be more expensive. So I'm actually surprised.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: I also feel like this generation is getting off of
Speaker 3: things that are drug forward.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean I guess that means they can have a
Speaker 3: non cap NATed thing, but I feel like it's like,
Speaker 3: I'm just going to start with a tea, right.
Speaker 2: Right, right, Okay, Well, this goes through some of the reasons.
Speaker 2: They're fast, they're great, Like, they make total sense to me. First,
Speaker 2: iced coffee is far more personalizable than hot drinks. Okay,
Speaker 2: Flavored syrups, creamers, plant based alternative milks provide wide ranging
Speaker 2: opportunities for customization, which appeals to gen Z consumer preferences.
Speaker 2: This might be an evolution of the focus on individualism
Speaker 2: that emerged during the ME generation, which is like gen.
Speaker 3: X, Yeah, no, that's millennial millennial.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's a millennial or gen X millennial.
Speaker 2: Apply applied to millennial and gen Z consumers coffee press preferences.
Speaker 2: This could look like I order an iced lavender, SOI
Speaker 2: latte to express myself, right, Yeah, I got it, versus
Speaker 2: the older mentality of I order a mug of hot
Speaker 2: coffee because I'm sitting at a diner with friends and that's.
Speaker 4: What we're ordering.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get that, I get that. I know that
Speaker 1: about millennials. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: These sweetened customization routes also make iced beverages more deliciously
Speaker 2: appealing for new coffee drinkers.
Speaker 4: And if they're young.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a gateway.
Speaker 2: When you see the Dunkin Donuts sugar plump, fairy iced.
Speaker 3: Coffee drink, they didn't have any of that stuff back.
Speaker 1: Well, we had to drink.
Speaker 3: But that that was the same thing where I was
Speaker 3: like a light I like it light and sweet.
Speaker 1: Yes, but I did too.
Speaker 3: Yes, that was my gateway.
Speaker 2: That was my gateway too. But that's all we got.
Speaker 2: Our only gateway was would you like sugar in that?
Speaker 3: It still worked.
Speaker 4: My generation introduced pumpkin spice to the world and we've
Speaker 4: just been downhill from there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, millennial, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2: So from a proprietary standpoint, many businesses use those unique
Speaker 2: specialized flavors to attract customers to order their iced coffee
Speaker 2: out instead of choosing to make plain iced coffee at home.
Speaker 2: Because we don't have sugar cookie lattes syrup in the pantry?
Speaker 2: Do we.
Speaker 1: Probably has it, yes, but I think that's true. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's another good one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love this.
Speaker 1: Iced coffees are highly instagrammable. Oh yeah, from lush, green
Speaker 1: iced macha lttes to a ripple of full fat creamer
Speaker 1: swirling through cold brew. I've posted thousands of those iced
Speaker 1: drinks photographed fabulously and make for a cute.
Speaker 3: Aesthetic that's so funny.
Speaker 2: A pink botanical cardamom rose ice latte is worth posting.
Speaker 4: A black coffee is not no, but a hot latte
Speaker 4: with like you know, the foam art is very instagrammable
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 1: But sure, but you can conceive of all the iced drinks.
Speaker 4: Yes, all the colors.
Speaker 2: You know, what this reminds me of what when we
Speaker 2: adopted our dog, Dolly, who is a black Lab.
Speaker 4: I've met her. She's great.
Speaker 1: She's the best.
Speaker 2: I mean, I couldn't imagine a better dog. She's perfect.
Speaker 2: A friend of mine that I worked with at CNN
Speaker 2: was like, oh, Dolly is great. I just want to
Speaker 2: tell you. And she's millennial, okay, black labs don't photograph
Speaker 2: as well as yellows.
Speaker 1: She's like, you're going to notice this on.
Speaker 3: Your Instagram, still within the window of returning the dogs.
Speaker 1: So I was like, have you lost your mind? I
Speaker 1: just want I've had friends with black labs. One of
Speaker 1: their complaints is shut off, shut up.
Speaker 2: Doll.
Speaker 3: You know she's still pretty.
Speaker 4: Sounds like a lighting issue too. Your friend needs to
Speaker 4: figure out how to you know.
Speaker 3: You know she photographs fantastically when her butts in the snow.
Speaker 2: Absolutely this is true, but you know it's it's true
Speaker 2: with like the dark eyes and the dark face, like
Speaker 2: she can kind of blend into like darkness.
Speaker 1: It's true, but I don't care. And Dolly's lucky she
Speaker 1: has a gen X mom and not a millennial mom.
Speaker 2: Who sees past those things. That's very funny, but doesn't
Speaker 2: that make total sense? Like the instagram ability of the
Speaker 2: iced drink and.
Speaker 3: The ice drinks. I feel like in the last like
Speaker 3: two years have gotten like very colorful and crazy and
Speaker 3: creative and everything. Like my we went to that Schmorgsburg.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah in Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: Ye I'm saying, I told you that's where the Banana coffee,
Speaker 3: which I don't think is still there, but they I
Speaker 3: was getting my kids something to eat and they had
Speaker 3: grilled cheese and I got the grilled cheese and it
Speaker 3: was a rainbow grilled cheese. First of all, it costs
Speaker 3: fifteen dollars. My child didn't eat it at all, but
Speaker 3: we did get the photo, of course you did, which
Speaker 3: I refuse to post on Instagram because I was like,
Speaker 3: this is why it's happening.
Speaker 4: Yes, shout out to the Queen's Night Market. As a
Speaker 4: resident of Queen's I will represent that because it's better
Speaker 4: than Morges, bringing my opinion, and all the dishes are
Speaker 4: capped at six dollars. They're small, but all.
Speaker 1: Liked Morgesberget.
Speaker 3: Initially it was like you would get just a bite.
Speaker 4: Right now night Market. Okay, it's like most of the year.
Speaker 4: They just started it again, it's.
Speaker 1: Is it a night market because it's at night.
Speaker 4: It's at night. It's every Saturday in the evening from
Speaker 4: like four pm into like midnight or something.
Speaker 1: That's want to do that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great. And I live right near that park,
Speaker 4: and so I'm I just like every Saturday.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, is it the park of the world.
Speaker 4: It's the flushing that it's going to park. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, is it your city field?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Exactly, it's right right right there.
Speaker 1: Okay, here's what I'm going to do. This is a
Speaker 1: total segue.
Speaker 2: They just added a ferry from Stanford, Connecticut really to
Speaker 2: city Fields.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's great.
Speaker 1: That's yeah every night, but like they have them occasionally.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: How long does it take?
Speaker 1: Like an hour?
Speaker 2: But that's so nice, Way better than it could take.
Speaker 2: The last time I went to a mech game this summer.
Speaker 4: It was like two hours.
Speaker 1: And you're a ferry.
Speaker 2: No, that's adorable, not fighting traffic, yeah, or parking at
Speaker 2: city Field and probably enjoying your beverage and enjoying a beverage.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So this is a plan. Now I'm going to ferry
Speaker 1: and then we're going to do the night market and
Speaker 1: then we're going to do a game.
Speaker 3: That's sound.
Speaker 4: It's great, that's amazing.
Speaker 1: Is that a day? But I love that day.
Speaker 4: It's a day.
Speaker 3: I love that day.
Speaker 1: Okay, great, Okay.
Speaker 2: The final reason why this is appealing to young people
Speaker 2: because they're on the go and there's nothing more disappointing
Speaker 2: than getting a hot drink that you don't get a
Speaker 2: chance to drink immediately and then it's lukewarm in ten minutes.
Speaker 1: That is fair. Yeah, this generation's on the go. I
Speaker 1: feel like my generation was also.
Speaker 3: On the go. We always all on the go.
Speaker 4: It's not on the go.
Speaker 1: But okay, all right personally, but but they're not wrong.
Speaker 1: It's just I discovered that thirty years ago that iced
Speaker 1: coffee was better on the go.
Speaker 3: Well, so I thought they weren't really on the go.
Speaker 3: We're all working from home, et ceterc. They don't feels
Speaker 3: on the go like I had together choosing not to
Speaker 3: be on the go. That's the thing they are, Whereas
Speaker 3: we have no boundaries, so you are on the go
Speaker 3: so much. I go back and forth.
Speaker 1: Today I do. I don't feel normal unless I'm on
Speaker 1: the go. And here's here's where this come from.
Speaker 2: Comes from because when I was going to high school,
Speaker 2: my high school was about forty minutes away, so I
Speaker 2: had to get up at the Crackodian and I had
Speaker 2: to build in dunk time go to but forty minutes
Speaker 2: in the car, you know what can happen to a
Speaker 2: hot drink in that time? And I wanted it, like
Speaker 2: for the whole morning, I want to have this coffee. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So I, being a genius fourteen year old, was like,
Speaker 2: this is going to be a nice coffee. Now we're
Speaker 2: going to make this nice coffee.
Speaker 1: Now I hacked it. Yeah the first I'm sure to
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty years ago, you guys seen on the go,
Speaker 2: So they're not wrong about this, but it's just they
Speaker 2: didn't discover this.
Speaker 3: No, it's about coffee generation.
Speaker 4: These these reasons are are making me think of other
Speaker 4: reasons too, like older, Like older people are working, and
Speaker 4: so coffee becomes maybe more of a utilitary a utility, yeah,
Speaker 4: a utilitarian thing, yes, whereas like what's for them experience exactly?
Speaker 3: It's just like, yes, for fun, something to reveal to
Speaker 3: Instagram an activity you have done.
Speaker 1: Yes with a black lass, or maybe a place to
Speaker 1: meet for a date or a lot or not right right,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, no, this this all makes so much sense.
Speaker 1: I'll leave you with this.
Speaker 2: Wendy's Ajack, faculty director of the Integrated Marketing Communications at Georgetown,
Speaker 2: posits that starbucks growing prevalence during the twenty tens introduced
Speaker 2: teenage consumers to sweet ice drinks like frappuccinos formeggs. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but like you know how brand quity early on Starbucks
Speaker 2: became in the early two thousands for sure, and the
Speaker 2: frappuccinos and then Duncan did like the you know, the
Speaker 2: ice uh like frozen drinks as well. Yeah, and a
Speaker 2: more positive introduction to coffee than the bitter hot drip
Speaker 2: to which many older generations were first introduced.
Speaker 1: She says, this also gets into the American psyche.
Speaker 2: We all want to feel like we're getting our little
Speaker 2: special taste and it makes us feel special. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: my iced coffee this is ic. I know, it's in
Speaker 2: like a hot beverage with you, so I didn't spill
Speaker 2: it in the carpet. It does make me feel special. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 2: my ice coffee moment makes me feel special because I
Speaker 2: have it just like I want it, right, only the
Speaker 2: things that I want in it.
Speaker 3: It's special and you make that at home.
Speaker 2: I make this at home with the Javvy collagen protein powder.
Speaker 2: Nice it's hazel nut and you how do you mix
Speaker 2: that in with a whisk or whisk it in nicely?
Speaker 2: Because I put it in hot yeah, to my hot coffee.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, whisk it in so it dissolves pretty well.
Speaker 2: Then I pop it in the fridge while I'm getting dressed,
Speaker 2: and by the time I come down, it's ready to.
Speaker 1: Pour over ice. It's perfect, completely customized.
Speaker 3: Did I already share this story? But we went to
Speaker 3: the Pacific Northwest for this camping trip, and we flew
Speaker 3: in and out of Seattle, spent a day there. We
Speaker 3: were there with very good friends of ours who used
Speaker 3: to live in New York. They now live in Tennessee.
Speaker 3: And this is like the first child I ever knew.
Speaker 3: She's now eighteen this year or two years ago, she
Speaker 3: was sixteen. So going to the original Starbucks was something
Speaker 3: that she had to do. And so we go down
Speaker 3: to like the fish market where they throw the fish
Speaker 3: or whatever, and that Starbucks was on that sort of
Speaker 3: road and there was a line out the door, and
Speaker 3: I was like, Susannah, I love you child. But I
Speaker 3: will not be doing this, and then your father will
Speaker 3: step in for me. And so they waited in line
Speaker 3: so that she could get the experience of ordering her
Speaker 3: drink and then taking a photo outside and like.
Speaker 4: It was Almo sad, It's just a regular Starbucks.
Speaker 3: It just popped my head and looks like it's.
Speaker 4: The historic thing.
Speaker 1: Wait, what does it look like on the outside? Does
Speaker 1: it look new?
Speaker 3: No, it looks like any other It's really not. I
Speaker 3: think I'm trying to remember. I feel like they might
Speaker 3: have like the original logo which was different, but other
Speaker 3: than that, and the green rope outside to cordon off. Wow,
Speaker 3: like you wouldn't necessarily know that.
Speaker 1: It was How old is it? We're talking seventies, eighties.
Speaker 3: I don't know something like that. Shall I google it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I would think I would think, like the seventies.
Speaker 3: Over fifty years. Founded on March thirtieth, nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 4: See in your coffee, your coffee instincts are can it?
Speaker 1: I can into it? Oh, that's interesting.
Speaker 3: It was originally a retailer of Wold Being Coffee, tea
Speaker 3: and spices, and then it expanded into a global coffee
Speaker 3: house chain after Howard Schultz acquired the company in nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty seven, so really the eighties.
Speaker 4: Maybe it tasted better back then.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe, Well for me now, I do love though
Speaker 2: Starbucks green iced tea is far superior to dunk in
Speaker 2: screen icy, far superior.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: I mean I just said it.
Speaker 4: I mean this. This gives your position credibility, though you're
Speaker 4: willing to say.
Speaker 1: I think it does because I will not blind blindly defend.
Speaker 3: Just everything classic. Guess e.
Speaker 1: This is what I do for a living. You're stuck
Speaker 1: in strikestrikes. This is my brand.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, Dunk Dunk green iced tea, I don't know
Speaker 2: why it does. It has no flavor, if anything. It
Speaker 2: tastes very similar to their black iced tea, to the
Speaker 2: point where I've wondered, like, is it just black tea?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Starbucks green iced tea is distinct, has a great flavor.
Speaker 1: I not like love.
Speaker 3: That's how I always feel like green.
Speaker 2: I know it's light and bright. It's really nice and bright.
Speaker 2: I put a little sweetener in it. It's delicious, super refreshing.
Speaker 2: On days I don't want dairy, you know, because I
Speaker 2: have dairy.
Speaker 1: In my coffee, I'll get a green iced tea.
Speaker 4: That's what they're good for.
Speaker 1: Okay, uh, got another study.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's good news.
Speaker 2: Coffee may boost your mood and brain power even without caffeine.
Speaker 4: Nice, this is very good news.
Speaker 2: Good news across the drinking Coffee may lift and boost
Speaker 2: your mood and your cog native performance even without caffeine.
Speaker 2: A new study compared CALF and DCALF and found both
Speaker 2: have pluses for gut, mood and behavior. So they did
Speaker 2: this whole study where they like, started off with coffee drinkers.
Speaker 2: They got them off their coffee, then did a baseline,
Speaker 2: then added coffee back, and compared them to non coffee
Speaker 2: drinkers and decaf coffee drinkers to see what kinds of things.
Speaker 1: And a lot of positive changes.
Speaker 2: Both types of coffee, decaff and CALF lowered stress, depression, impulsivity, inflammation,
Speaker 2: boosted mood and cognitive performance.
Speaker 4: Did Trader Joe's fund this study, they're the same.
Speaker 1: Only caffeinated coffee was linked to reduced anxiety.
Speaker 3: Which I think we knew from another study we do.
Speaker 1: I'm here.
Speaker 2: Psychological distress, blood pressure, improved attention and stress coping. Decaff
Speaker 2: coffee meanwhile, led to enhanced physical activity and memory. The
Speaker 2: microbiologist involved in the study said coffee is more than
Speaker 2: just caffeine. It's a complex dietary factor that interacts with
Speaker 2: our gut microbes, our metabolism, and even our emotional well being.
Speaker 1: It's not just a drug delivery vehicle.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Complex. There's reasons why we love it done, it's nuanced.
Speaker 1: This is, I mean, just another reason it is the
Speaker 1: best beverage because it does so much. It works so hard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: works harder than any other beverage, I think.
Speaker 3: I also, I think there's something related to something one
Speaker 3: of our guests said, again pointing out that your question
Speaker 3: at the end of every episode is very revealing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but this was that interview with Stacy Lindsay, the forty
Speaker 3: midlife yes woman, who said this thing that I really
Speaker 3: identified with. I feel the same way when she goes
Speaker 3: to bed, she's thinking about her coffee in the morning,
Speaker 3: and you referenced your coffee moment. I think that we
Speaker 3: look forward to coffee, whether it's decaf or personalized or
Speaker 3: a lavender cold foam whatever, definitely has something to look
Speaker 3: forward to because, like you know, a morning weekday can
Speaker 3: be a little rough. You're like, this is the thing
Speaker 3: is that sad is that a little son. I think
Speaker 3: it's part of my life. We all look forward, we
Speaker 3: all try to create our own moments that we look
Speaker 3: forward to yes during and it is.
Speaker 1: The best part of waking up.
Speaker 4: It's the what's that.
Speaker 1: Cup? Yeah, it's a fact, it's a fact.
Speaker 3: It's the best.
Speaker 1: It's the best before we get to the last story.
Speaker 1: So we we were in DC this weekend and it
Speaker 1: was just my husband and I.
Speaker 2: Usually we take Jack. We didn't, And what we usually
Speaker 2: do is I've got some stops that he likes to make.
Speaker 2: He wants to go to Lincoln Memorial, a couple other things,
Speaker 2: a couple of places he likes to eat. And because
Speaker 2: we didn't have him, we got to do some of
Speaker 2: our favorite things, one of which is going to the
Speaker 2: Art Museum. I love going to the art museum. My
Speaker 2: favorite painting in the world is at that art museum,
Speaker 2: so I like to visit it. So we go and
Speaker 2: under the National Gallery is this great cafeteria and it's
Speaker 2: the East wing and the West Wing and between the two,
Speaker 2: underground is this great cafeteria. So we go to the
Speaker 2: cafeteria and John's got gelato on his mind. We're gonna
Speaker 2: make this stop at the cafeteria. He knows he's going
Speaker 2: to have the chocolate, the coffee gelato at this museum cafee.
Speaker 2: We get there, I sit down at a table because
Speaker 2: I'm not having gelato. So I sit down on a
Speaker 2: table and I'm just having my water and he comes
Speaker 2: back with a cup of gelatto and it's pink, and
Speaker 2: I said, what is that. It's like, oh, well, they
Speaker 2: have this other flavor I decided to get instead of
Speaker 2: the coffee.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, takes a bite, literally spits it out. He's like,
Speaker 1: this is the grossest thing I've ever had.
Speaker 3: I could have tried it.
Speaker 4: I should have tried it.
Speaker 1: No, he should not have ordered it. It was called
Speaker 1: cherry blossom and it tasted like flowers. Yeah, in a
Speaker 1: terrible way.
Speaker 4: Tried it.
Speaker 1: It was the grossest thing I've ever had. That's so
Speaker 1: sad when coffee was right there the best flavor.
Speaker 3: You should always essentially go with your gut.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent, because you know why, coffee cares about
Speaker 1: your gut.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's done a lot of work.
Speaker 1: Your gut should care about your coffee cares about your gut.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So did you question your relationship at always.
Speaker 1: I questioned him, I said, why did you order that?
Speaker 1: I was like indignant, I was angry. No, why, I
Speaker 1: need to know why why did you order that.
Speaker 4: Household?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought it looked interesting. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: that was a really bad decision. It was a terrible choice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can see myself wording that that sounds feeling
Speaker 4: curious what it tastes like is because I would expect
Speaker 4: it to taste sort.
Speaker 1: Of cherry ish, That's what he thought.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but not at all. But I would be okay
Speaker 4: if it tasted cherry ish and also kind of tasted
Speaker 4: like tea or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know, tasted like none of those tasted like flowers. Gross.
Speaker 3: I should always try something that seems.
Speaker 1: A little off, especially ice cream. They let you try it,
Speaker 1: you know that part.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're allowed to do that. There was this time
Speaker 3: period during COVID where you couldn't do you remember that.
Speaker 4: That was the worst aspect of COVID.
Speaker 3: I think I think we can all.
Speaker 1: Agree, all agree that was the low point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well someone finally came back, bro, Like, I think
Speaker 3: we're out of it.
Speaker 2: All right, Okay, last story, This is short and sweet.
Speaker 2: Massachusetts City is offering free coffee for reporting potholes.
Speaker 1: Oh I love that. Yeah, they do that.
Speaker 3: If they did it in New York, they would go
Speaker 3: out of the business.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well this is the eighth year they've done it, so
Speaker 1: it's super successful.
Speaker 2: They put up like an Instagram saying spring flowers are
Speaker 2: starting to emerge, and so are the potholes. Help us
Speaker 2: find them and get a free drink. This is like
Speaker 2: I love that Lemonster mass right apparently, and this rings true.
Speaker 2: Last year the department fixed more.
Speaker 1: Than five thousand potholes in one Lemonster one town.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: I don't know if your towns have been like this,
Speaker 2: but because of the harsh winter we had in Connecticut
Speaker 2: and everywhere in the Northeast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the potholes are out of control.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean every street is like buckling up from
Speaker 2: just being under snow for like months.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can't go anywhere without kind of trying to
Speaker 1: avoid the potholes.
Speaker 2: The curbs are crumbling, like I imagine every town's got
Speaker 2: some issues this year.
Speaker 1: But this is so fun.
Speaker 4: It's a great way to get community engagement. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't it great? And people love it? The town
Speaker 1: people love it. Here's how it works.
Speaker 2: City of Leminster has relaunched its annual Coffee for Potholes
Speaker 2: campaign to encourage residents to report potholes in exchange for
Speaker 2: a compliment each drink from one of several local coffee
Speaker 2: shops partnering with the city.
Speaker 1: Dunk is not on this.
Speaker 4: Too big, they are too big.
Speaker 1: These are like small coffee shops.
Speaker 2: To receive the free drink, residents must first report a
Speaker 2: pothole by calling DPW, and then can visit the Mayor's
Speaker 2: office at City Hall during standard business hours to collect
Speaker 2: a free drink card from one of the participating shops.
Speaker 2: Only one card can be issued per person, regardless of
Speaker 2: how many potholes are are reported.
Speaker 3: I wonder how many people actually go through that. It's
Speaker 3: a it's a few steps, it is.
Speaker 2: Those are steps I don't know that I would take. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but honestly, but like it wouldn't accord it.
Speaker 4: And I like the idea of, like, you know, in
Speaker 4: encouraging community.
Speaker 3: You know, engagement and realizing that you have the power,
Speaker 3: you know, like that you can actually really realize.
Speaker 1: Notice, yeah, I love that community aspect of it too,
Speaker 1: less the coffee part, but yes, I love it.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 1: Great idea, great idea lemonster. That's all I've got for coffee.
Speaker 4: Wow, well I have.
Speaker 3: One piece of coffee news.
Speaker 2: Oh what do we got?
Speaker 3: Sent in from Matt Ka, one of our listeners. Okay, okay,
Speaker 3: so he's describing he's really into baseball, minor league in particular,
Speaker 3: and I guess minor league baseball teams do this sort
Speaker 3: of like what to me sounds like a little bit
Speaker 3: of a marketing charade where they rename themselves first season. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: so my Instagram algorithm has been filled with alternate minor
Speaker 3: league baseball team announcements. This is when a team takes
Speaker 3: on a new persona with a goofy regional connection for
Speaker 3: a few games.
Speaker 1: This is our writer, our reader.
Speaker 2: Yes, this is Matt describing, for example, the Akron rubber Ducks,
Speaker 2: which is already something, became the Akron galley.
Speaker 3: Boys last season. I don't know what that means. Okay,
Speaker 3: this year I stumbled across the Redding Fight and Fills.
Speaker 2: Yep, and they just recently became are you ready the
Speaker 2: Redding Iced Coffee Shut What he shares with us an
Speaker 2: Instagram link?
Speaker 1: So this is their logo? No, I need that.
Speaker 2: It's and they have a hat so the logo is
Speaker 2: of an iced coffee right now, and it does have
Speaker 2: the instagrammable sort of like milk filtering down into these
Speaker 2: layers of coffee. So like the bottom of the coffee
Speaker 2: is like a darker brown, the middle where the eyes
Speaker 2: are is like a lighter brown, and then the white
Speaker 2: sort of top, and there's and ice cubes. Hilariously, just
Speaker 2: to show you too, well, yeah, so this is I
Speaker 2: looked him up.
Speaker 3: It's the same guy. I love this. Just to point out.
Speaker 2: Uh, Matt on Instagram tagged see and was like, this
Speaker 2: would be a great topic for the podcast.
Speaker 3: I love Thank you, Matt, You're the best. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: I sort of love the emotion in this ice ice
Speaker 3: cream and this ice coffee space, like it is angry.
Speaker 3: It is wielding, oh for my colored straw, and it
Speaker 3: is like it looks like it's going to go take
Speaker 3: someone down. Not play bass, because you know, it is
Speaker 3: very fun. There's at It's a very cute marketing play.
Speaker 3: I'm curious why Redding in particular thought that ice coffee represented.
Speaker 1: Me too, But I need that hat.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you definitely kind I think you might need to
Speaker 4: get on zillow buy a new house. Maybe you might
Speaker 4: need to move to reading this is this is your location.
Speaker 1: That's amazing.
Speaker 3: Seems like it's for the whole season for these guys.
Speaker 2: The twenty twenty edition of their annual Morning game so fantastic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, really adorable.
Speaker 1: Okay, wish me luck because I'm going to find that happy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I need that. That's awesome.
Speaker 1: And thank you Matt for writing in. That's any comment.
Speaker 3: We love you, Matt.
Speaker 2: Kay.
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Speaker 3: And actually speaking of which I've been wanting to do
Speaker 3: this for a while, but we have some really lovely
Speaker 3: people who have reviewed the podcast, and I just want
Speaker 3: to embarrass se for a second and read just at
Speaker 3: least one. Yeah, it is a relatively recent one from
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Speaker 4: Apple podcasts. Yeah.
Speaker 2: This is a reviewed on Apple Podcasts, mainly because I
Speaker 2: just never looked to Spotify.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there are other ways that you can listen.
Speaker 3: This one was a five star review. SI does an
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Speaker 1: Love that nice.
Speaker 4: I love that we have the best listeners.
Speaker 3: We do have the best listeners.
Speaker 4: So I am still feeling I don't know if it's
Speaker 4: the sugar or the or the coffee. Yeah, I am
Speaker 4: feeling them. And I had Hacket coffee.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is a coffee potent podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm driving down the Autumbaughn in Italy.
Speaker 2: That is gonna pick me up, wake me. It would
Speaker 2: be perfect. It would be perfect, especially with those Italian drivers.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, guys, well thanks as always for
Speaker 1: joining me. This was so fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Thanks.
Speaker 1: We'll see you guys next time.
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