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Speaker 5: This is my boy Kirk. That is Shnning.
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Speaker 2: What's going on with October fast out on the plaza
Speaker 2: is that this weekend. Get your look it up on
Speaker 2: the Star District website. There drinks gotta be that can
Speaker 2: just get your drink.
Speaker 7: I don't know we can. Let's get it on.
Speaker 5: Get your freak, go, get your freak.
Speaker 8: How you can? Oh yeah, they got you.
Speaker 7: Think Kirk can dance?
Speaker 8: He probably can, sway, you know he's a concert guy.
Speaker 8: No concert they sway.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 7: I'll tell you what Kurk can do that would really
Speaker 7: surprise you.
Speaker 8: What's that he may have been there?
Speaker 7: He can sing?
Speaker 2: Carry man saying you know that New York remember that
Speaker 2: song cult a personality.
Speaker 5: By made me do that.
Speaker 2: I was really in Living Color, not the show but
Speaker 2: the band. You forgot that he can he can whale?
Speaker 5: Was that l A or New York?
Speaker 7: That was New York we went to on our retreat.
Speaker 7: He can whale?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: I was like, WHOA give him the mic.
Speaker 5: Car hitting talent?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Man, sneaky, he's potent to do that to you.
Speaker 5: Three pulp is good?
Speaker 8: Yes?
Speaker 7: How we feeling?
Speaker 2: We didn't check mentals and dinners yesterday? We got so
Speaker 2: caught up in everything else.
Speaker 7: How we doing good?
Speaker 10: Good?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Everything's good?
Speaker 2: Man wings stop Friday tomorrow. So we're getting some boneless,
Speaker 2: so I need them on the air. Just they get
Speaker 2: all over me.
Speaker 6: Man, Man, I'll try it like you, just to fork
Speaker 6: in it and just I'll try man the way that
Speaker 6: up up?
Speaker 7: Have you seen me eat wings up?
Speaker 2: I get it from fingertips to my elbows and then
Speaker 2: it gets all of my now that I got long hair?
Speaker 5: Are you from Louisiana?
Speaker 8: Man?
Speaker 2: I know I'll get down there.
Speaker 5: If you can work your way through crosses, bro, you
Speaker 5: can work your way.
Speaker 7: Through way through worse.
Speaker 2: You ain't the only one that has hit him trailer parks,
Speaker 2: be believe me, my man.
Speaker 8: Seventeen moves. Man, how many.
Speaker 7: I never lived in the trailer?
Speaker 11: About you?
Speaker 1: Was that?
Speaker 11: Chris?
Speaker 8: That's not bad?
Speaker 12: Well you all said there was no big deal bringing
Speaker 12: a helicopter into this place.
Speaker 8: Oh man, it has been all over to.
Speaker 7: Did we did we call that? Did our little segment
Speaker 7: calls that?
Speaker 5: Probably todd now it was already.
Speaker 8: There, not tonight.
Speaker 2: Maybe you go to sing it too well, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know if he can sing like that.
Speaker 12: I'm not you know, I'm not marmon gay over here.
Speaker 7: You're not a serenader. You're a whaler. Did you sing
Speaker 7: any band growing up or anything?
Speaker 12: No, I only sing when I've had a few too
Speaker 12: many you had?
Speaker 7: Okay, you sing a lot. You see it all right, fellas?
Speaker 2: Will we see any changes in the scheme with Micah
Speaker 2: and DeMarcus out or is it just plug and plague?
Speaker 7: Here's it? Here it is.
Speaker 2: You know we talk about coaches. Some coaches adapt and
Speaker 2: some coaches just go.
Speaker 7: This is what we do.
Speaker 8: Is what we're doing.
Speaker 2: Get in there and do it or do you think
Speaker 2: it'll be like, okay, we got to figure out ways
Speaker 2: to get creative and help these these new guys.
Speaker 7: What do you what do you expect to see any
Speaker 7: new wrinkles or is it just here it is? Go
Speaker 7: do it next?
Speaker 8: Man up? See, I've been so direct the last few days.
Speaker 6: We like, we like directly, Yeah, we really like Michaah
Speaker 6: is not you dumb it?
Speaker 5: We like directly.
Speaker 8: Michah is not there. That's it, Michaeh is gone. It
Speaker 8: ain't no more. Michael kJ Henry would never be Michael.
Speaker 12: So do you keep everything else the same or you
Speaker 12: got to do something different to make.
Speaker 8: Up for Yeah? You just line up, you know, grab grass?
Speaker 5: Hold on tight is grab grass?
Speaker 2: A new term, old school, I know, but I've never
Speaker 2: heard him use it until this this this season.
Speaker 8: Well, the thing about it because we was getting rolled
Speaker 8: out of that it's been so long since we had
Speaker 8: a guy blocked on the whole, you know, turn his
Speaker 8: back on the whole team, not on an a team.
Speaker 6: But I think for for Mike MacArthur, you got to
Speaker 6: keep it as basic as you possibly can. You know,
Speaker 6: one of the things that when you have a guy
Speaker 6: like Michael Parsons, he's a he's a force multiplier, right Like,
Speaker 6: he can create when there is no room to create.
Speaker 6: He has that ability, and when you lose that, you
Speaker 6: you now have to kind of go back to just
Speaker 6: the fundamentals of what you do because there is no
Speaker 6: one else on this roster on a consistent basis that
Speaker 6: can create their own one on one and win it right, right,
Speaker 6: And so I think for the most part now, like
Speaker 6: if there's ever been a time that there needs to
Speaker 6: be details, it's right now. It's eleven guys to the football.
Speaker 6: It's everybody be where they're supposed to be. Because we
Speaker 6: don't have a athlete or athletes out there that can
Speaker 6: make up for a bad play. I know that I
Speaker 6: know Overshown is a guy who has a lot of juice,
Speaker 6: but I don't think he has the overall experience to
Speaker 6: being able to make up, you know, to make up
Speaker 6: the eras of the ways, of of of the lack
Speaker 6: thereof that you have in that defensive line. So for
Speaker 6: my thought process would be Mike is talking to the
Speaker 6: guys and he's like, you know, hey, we may bring
Speaker 6: a pressure every now and again, but for the most part,
Speaker 6: we to use the Nate Newton term, We're gonna man.
Speaker 6: We're gonna man our gaps. We're gonna do what we
Speaker 6: gotta do. We're gonna grab grass, and we're gonna play.
Speaker 6: We're gonna because you're facing a guy where you need
Speaker 6: discipline the way that that that the Steelers deploy justin fields.
Speaker 5: He gonna run the football.
Speaker 6: There's gonna be a lot of r p O that
Speaker 6: get that get thrown into this thing. There's gonna be
Speaker 6: a lot of him rolling and moving that pocket, getting
Speaker 6: him on the edge, and you know, like Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 6: he gets he gets an angle on you.
Speaker 2: How I wondered this watching a really good r p
Speaker 2: O quarterback, because that is it easier because on TV
Speaker 2: it looks hard as hell to know.
Speaker 7: When to pull it.
Speaker 8: You're reading the defensive end right reading, But.
Speaker 2: On TV it looks like it happens too fast to
Speaker 2: know when to leave it or when to when to.
Speaker 7: Take it right. Let me say this right, I know
Speaker 7: there's no there's no easy way to say it.
Speaker 5: You try, you try to go back, try to go
Speaker 5: back to it.
Speaker 6: You went back to the scene of the crime and
Speaker 6: thought you was gonna find another way to get out
Speaker 6: of this thing, only to dig yourself into a deeper hole.
Speaker 7: Thank you for helping me out.
Speaker 8: No, I'm fine, I'm finna help you. Everybody can't do.
Speaker 8: It's only for me. Even with Dak, who when he
Speaker 8: was much younger, wasn't good at this is good. Lamar
Speaker 8: is exceptional. This kid feels his exceptional because they got
Speaker 8: raw speed and so their hand out foot coordination. All
Speaker 8: they looking for you. Basically, if you look in at
Speaker 8: that at that at that dive, if you just look
Speaker 8: in there a lot of time they got the the
Speaker 8: athrecability to use right. So but if you take a
Speaker 8: step and turns just slightly, they gone. They pulling it out.
Speaker 8: You can see on film, And I heard Bradis say
Speaker 8: this Brian Braddis well. A couple of times he looked
Speaker 8: at the and I'm talking about this kid. We finish
Speaker 8: play fields, He's looked and still handing it off to
Speaker 8: Cardale or either Nagy, and he'll like, oh, so Brian
Speaker 8: thinking like this game here, if they pull that, he
Speaker 8: gonna pull it out because of what he saw Lamar.
Speaker 8: It's some guys are just so ultra athletic and they've
Speaker 8: been doing this since high school. To you give them anything,
Speaker 8: they go.
Speaker 2: So it's almost instinctual, like yeah, because to me, you
Speaker 2: look at it, it's like, how did he know to
Speaker 2: not do? And it's like most nine out of ten
Speaker 2: times they make the right decision right.
Speaker 7: Every once in a while they do what they're not
Speaker 7: supposed to.
Speaker 2: But it's and it's so bang bang in real time,
Speaker 2: Like I'm just like, how in the hell do you
Speaker 2: have the ability? So I guess, like you said, you've
Speaker 2: been doing it since high school, running that offense.
Speaker 7: It's it's almost like.
Speaker 8: It's secondary because what's hard for Lamar and what's hard
Speaker 8: for fields even harder for fields. Lamar is getting better.
Speaker 8: You can see him, you know, physically getting better. Is
Speaker 8: when they got to read a pre reader coverage then
Speaker 8: then go through it. You know, with that coverage. Now
Speaker 8: it may mess him up a littit, but Lamar is
Speaker 8: getting much better. And this kid is learning because I
Speaker 8: mean you've seen the film. They got him throwing outside
Speaker 8: the numbers this year. But everything is quick, quick to
Speaker 8: the sticks. But they ain't got him throwing long, and
Speaker 8: they don't want him throwing long, and they don't want
Speaker 8: him have to say, well, he has to bring this
Speaker 8: thing down at one two okay, back over here to three.
Speaker 8: They don't want him one one and a half by
Speaker 8: and now they like, I'm you know, I listened to Broadest,
Speaker 8: I listened to y'all. I listen to all you guys
Speaker 8: that know it. You know what you're looking at. Then
Speaker 8: I can go look, oh yeah, can't see what y'all
Speaker 8: talking about. And you can see on the film like yeah,
Speaker 8: and this kid. And another thing that I think this
Speaker 8: kid is in his mind is I ain't just gonna
Speaker 8: get his job. Back to this dude, I'm not gonna
Speaker 8: make these mistakes when you got true competition, like he
Speaker 8: had no competition with the Bears. So eight interceptions in
Speaker 8: the game, okay, so what two interceptions. You're gonna hit
Speaker 8: that pime bro. You may get they may give you one,
Speaker 8: but you hit two. Hey, hey man, get you in
Speaker 8: the bull band. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 12: So how do they defend those quick passes? And are
Speaker 12: they playing up or they I mean, what's what's the
Speaker 12: key to stopping them?
Speaker 5: Defensively?
Speaker 6: It has to look very similar from the Cowboys defensively
Speaker 6: and the Steelers defensively. For example, the Steelers defensively, there
Speaker 6: they trust that their front four is going to give
Speaker 6: them the push and the pressure that they that they need.
Speaker 6: And with Cam of course Cam Hayward and of course
Speaker 6: you got t. J. Watt, you've been getting that. They
Speaker 6: really rely just on their front floor of being able
Speaker 6: to do it. And the Cowboys would have to be
Speaker 6: very similar because behind that Pittsburgh plays coverage. They're gonna
Speaker 6: play cover three, they're gonna play quarters, they're gonna play
Speaker 6: all what's up, y'all?
Speaker 5: Kids don't go to school no more?
Speaker 8: Kids just don't never school.
Speaker 3: We come through it.
Speaker 5: We kids not go to school anymore?
Speaker 8: All right.
Speaker 2: We had a tour walk by, that's yeah, that's where
Speaker 2: the squirrel moment came from.
Speaker 6: And so behind that what what Pittsburgh wants to do. Uh,
Speaker 6: Pittsburgh is going to play that shell coverage. They're gonna say,
Speaker 6: we're gonna keep everything in front of us. Riley tackle
Speaker 6: and the Cowboys have to have the same approach. And
Speaker 6: for justin fields, they don't want him having to make
Speaker 6: multiple reads. They want him to make simple and quick reads.
Speaker 6: They do a lot of thirteen personnel. They roll the pocket.
Speaker 6: Because when they roll the pocket, now what they have
Speaker 6: to do is you have to do defensively. You gotta
Speaker 6: make a decision. Okay, either you're gonna get that quick
Speaker 6: throw or I'm turning the corner. And if I turn
Speaker 6: the corner, I'm gonna get what I'm gonna get. And
Speaker 6: they now you're gonna be able to do to stop me.
Speaker 6: So when you talk about Cowboys being disciplined, gotta hold
Speaker 6: that edge because if he gets outside that pocket, he's
Speaker 6: tucking in and running and that's gonna be six seven.
Speaker 8: Eight yards.
Speaker 6: And if he picks up a block of two, twelve
Speaker 6: to fifteen yards and if he breaks the tackle of two,
Speaker 6: he gonna hit his head and the goal post.
Speaker 3: All right, let's take our first break when we come back.
Speaker 2: More Cowboys defense and a little bit of Pittsburgh offense
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Speaker 2: Were talking in the break about food, Kurt, what is
Speaker 2: your favorite dessert of all time?
Speaker 8: You know what I like?
Speaker 12: A good apple pie, cold warm.
Speaker 5: White I.
Speaker 8: Man, that is so you got probably he was a boy,
Speaker 8: but that was though, that was Missouri.
Speaker 12: What do you want me to say that?
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Speaker 2: the ones you go into seven eleven and buying a
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Speaker 8: Good man, that slash Missouri?
Speaker 15: Nothing like that.
Speaker 12: You better not say potato pie.
Speaker 8: What you're gonna say dessert?
Speaker 3: What you're gonna say?
Speaker 8: Let saying no?
Speaker 9: Like I just so is?
Speaker 7: Please say.
Speaker 10: Is it?
Speaker 11: Really?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 8: Whoa?
Speaker 1: I call it?
Speaker 8: Game?
Speaker 16: Yes, letting they say no, but just tall me an
Speaker 16: picked too so sweet potato and red velvet cheesecake.
Speaker 8: You my aunt Mildred's coconut cake. That's how hard she's going.
Speaker 8: So I don't eat coconut cake anymore. That was my favorite.
Speaker 2: Yes, Chris, that's it for memasue.
Speaker 5: That's not man?
Speaker 2: What what? What? What did?
Speaker 5: He sayssumsunt?
Speaker 8: How much?
Speaker 5: What is it? What it is like?
Speaker 7: It's like get an Italian place?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, its like coffee on drop.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 15: I like that.
Speaker 5: That's just fancy.
Speaker 17: I got a fancy.
Speaker 2: Banana good banana pudding, trace lech is. I don't eat
Speaker 2: it very much, but that's good. But key lime or
Speaker 2: or strawberry pie.
Speaker 8: Strawberry straw straw pie, the crust, bronze, butter peek, butter
Speaker 8: peek can, butter peanuts.
Speaker 7: Pound cake.
Speaker 5: All right, football, all right, we're bad white and black
Speaker 5: on this side.
Speaker 6: We're just we stuck. We stuck to our roots. You
Speaker 6: talking about coconut, You talking about lime? Chris back, Chris back,
Speaker 6: like literally, we're black and white over there.
Speaker 7: They would uh every year at camp? Did they do
Speaker 7: it this year?
Speaker 5: Chris?
Speaker 2: They would make uh, you know Dak's birthday every years
Speaker 2: at training camp, and the the cooks at the hotel
Speaker 2: where we stayed, they'd make his favorite cakes, trace lechs,
Speaker 2: which is the what is it?
Speaker 8: Man?
Speaker 7: The milk and stuff.
Speaker 6: They cracked down on all the sweets in the training camp.
Speaker 6: Now the nutrition is over there, they cracked down.
Speaker 12: Man.
Speaker 8: No really, man, they bring the chef from the Star
Speaker 8: here out there. Stuff. Man, this is different.
Speaker 7: Let's do something that was the highlight of kids after
Speaker 7: all that rice peel off.
Speaker 18: No no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 7: First of all, there's rice peel off every night. Yes,
Speaker 7: some things don't change.
Speaker 5: Away, all right.
Speaker 7: So we touched on it briefly earlier this week when
Speaker 7: we did our applause thing on on Monday.
Speaker 2: But but Mazie right, the effort was there, the physicality
Speaker 2: was there.
Speaker 7: He showed up this week.
Speaker 2: Now that he's shown that he can he physically can
Speaker 2: do it, how do you keep that going?
Speaker 8: If you're him, he has to want to keep it going.
Speaker 8: He is the one that uh showed a lack of interest.
Speaker 8: Now he's showing some interest. Now now you may have
Speaker 8: to find out what that interest was that got him going.
Speaker 8: So we can duplicate that.
Speaker 7: Somebody can off before the game.
Speaker 8: Somebody duplicated.
Speaker 18: But he is.
Speaker 5: Marcus Spears spirits.
Speaker 8: So this is up to him. We know it's a
Speaker 8: mental thing with him. It ain't a physical thing. It's
Speaker 8: it's up to him whether he wants to be dominant
Speaker 8: or not want to be.
Speaker 7: Do it no matter the position.
Speaker 2: But once you do it as a as a player
Speaker 2: and you realize you haven't had success, and then you
Speaker 2: have some success and you go, I can do this.
Speaker 7: Is that sometimes a little bit of something.
Speaker 6: You need to because the game is a lot, man,
Speaker 6: it's a lot of confidence is everything. Conf dbs and
Speaker 6: confidence in life in life, in life.
Speaker 3: And you see ugly dude with with a really good
Speaker 3: like a woman, you know, got a lot of.
Speaker 7: Money, money, really confident or great personality.
Speaker 5: At astral sugsself.
Speaker 6: But they got some pretty women. Boy, they got some
Speaker 6: pretty women. It's all about confidence right for him. It's
Speaker 6: I joked about it and I said I would play
Speaker 6: this on loop for him all week, like it would
Speaker 6: be the highlight reel. Like I would, I would have
Speaker 6: went down there shout out to my boy Sam in
Speaker 6: a video room and I'd have said, Sam, cut these
Speaker 6: plays up, put it on an m P three, put
Speaker 6: it on whatever. We're gonna send it to Mazie and
Speaker 6: I want him to watch it that day when he
Speaker 6: come in the meeting room.
Speaker 5: I wanted to be playing there right.
Speaker 8: I want.
Speaker 6: I want to give it to him on Friday, on
Speaker 6: Saturday night. I want him to see.
Speaker 5: I want him to fall asleep with these players playing.
Speaker 6: In his head and saying that is in you continue
Speaker 6: to let this thrive and flourish on the football field.
Speaker 6: So I think he's got you know, and you heard
Speaker 6: all the reports, you know, you know in the locker.
Speaker 5: Room, he's been. He's been on cloud nine.
Speaker 6: He's been smiling like everyone else has been doom and gloom,
Speaker 6: and we gotta get better. Mizi's been over here, Like
Speaker 6: the hell what y'all talking about? I had the best
Speaker 6: twenty five players of my life. And you want to, somehow,
Speaker 6: some way continue to keep that. You wanna, you wanna,
Speaker 6: you wanna keep throwing kerosene on that small little amber
Speaker 6: that's burning a little bit of a flame. I want
Speaker 6: to kerosene that thing, and hopefully that isn't nice because
Speaker 6: it's in there. I now have to, you know, coach Z,
Speaker 6: I gotta keep I gotta keep flaming that fire. I
Speaker 6: gotta keep flaming that fire and hope it never blows out.
Speaker 12: What's that line gonna be like in this week? They
Speaker 12: they're not that good, are they.
Speaker 6: They're not as good there. They're dealing with some injuries.
Speaker 6: I mean, the guy that he's facing the center is
Speaker 6: not that good. He's okay, but they're looking at they're
Speaker 6: looking at these guys and saying, yeah, I know what
Speaker 6: you did last week, but I also got twenty other
Speaker 6: games that said what you did before too, right, don't
Speaker 6: like the Baltimore game didn't go away. The Saints game
Speaker 6: didn't go away. Those games didn't go you know, you
Speaker 6: go back to last year. A couple of those games,
Speaker 6: the the the the Buffalo game, the Green Bay game,
Speaker 6: those games we still got, you know, those are still
Speaker 6: on all twenty two. We still got those two. Uh
Speaker 6: and while the while the Cowboys are looking for a way,
Speaker 6: this team is going to fight too. Like they're looking
Speaker 6: at the Cowboys like, you know, the run game hasn't
Speaker 6: been the best for Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5: Now they commit to it.
Speaker 6: They're they're they're averaging other under under four yards a carry,
Speaker 6: and they're trying to get that thing. Yeah, they're trying
Speaker 6: and they're trying to get to it, and it hasn't
Speaker 6: been all the way success. But they look at the
Speaker 6: Cowboy was like you know how we're talking about hey, right,
Speaker 6: Aid Walgreens, CBS. Just what the doctors prescribed, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean, Like where they they saw how King
Speaker 6: Henry and Lamar and at RPO and how that how
Speaker 6: that worked for them, and they got they got similar guys,
Speaker 6: not as good as those guys, know, but similar in
Speaker 6: that style. So for Mazzie, it's and from I also
Speaker 6: looking at this as Bozzi and saying, you know what,
Speaker 6: there is expectation on me.
Speaker 5: I was a first round pick.
Speaker 6: We're down our two biggest guys on defense, This would
Speaker 6: be a great time for me to step up. I
Speaker 6: went over a lot of people that in this moment
Speaker 6: I stepped up and played a big or bigger because
Speaker 6: he might have to play bigger than you played last
Speaker 6: week because of the absence of Micah and Tank. That
Speaker 6: will go a long way, a country mile long way.
Speaker 6: If he came out and showed what he showed last
Speaker 6: week and even better this week and helped his defense
Speaker 6: out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, uh, Pittsburgh's offensive line PFF ranked
Speaker 2: some you know how we like PFF on this show,
Speaker 2: ranked some twentieth, and the run game average is one
Speaker 2: point seven yards before contact, tied for twenty eighth in
Speaker 2: the league. All right, secondary talk, I'm gonna throw out
Speaker 2: some numbers here. Thank you for providing these. Kurt Safety
Speaker 2: at the safety position, and keep in mind there's still
Speaker 2: thirty two teams in the NFL. Correct, Okay, Donovan Wilson
Speaker 2: is our highest according to PFF, Donovan Wilson is our
Speaker 2: highest ranked safety stop.
Speaker 6: That sentence alone tells you right now, whatever's going ready
Speaker 6: to come after that?
Speaker 8: Good?
Speaker 5: Ain't good. I'm just telling you.
Speaker 6: If Donovan Wilson is the leading safety on this team.
Speaker 6: I whatever comes out your mouth next is not going
Speaker 6: to be good.
Speaker 2: Proceed well, considering there's only what there's usually two safeties
Speaker 2: on the field at any given time, and there's only
Speaker 2: thirty two teams, that would be sixty four said.
Speaker 5: There we go, There we go, trailer park.
Speaker 7: It's a Louisiana math.
Speaker 2: He's ranked fiftieth and he's our highest ranked safety. Hooker
Speaker 2: is ranked sixty fifth. Let's slip over to cornerbacks. Jordan
Speaker 2: Lewis is the highest ranked cornerback on the team at
Speaker 2: thirty nine, thirty ninth in the league. Diggs is ranked
Speaker 2: eighty third, and the team is twenty sixth in yards
Speaker 2: allowed per catch at eleven point eight. That's is that
Speaker 2: all because of no pass rush? Right defensive line and
Speaker 2: it's those guys just way too much time to cover anybody.
Speaker 7: It's not your personnel, because this is.
Speaker 2: The same group basically that you had last year that
Speaker 2: you know, the last two years that was outstanding, Right,
Speaker 2: So that's all predicated.
Speaker 8: On the magic. A lot of it is not all
Speaker 8: of it, but a lot of it is.
Speaker 7: It's just.
Speaker 8: You know, great, you know, I don't know how you
Speaker 8: broke down Mazia or what to say, what's the word
Speaker 8: properly of a great way? You broke down mazi In.
Speaker 8: But it's all gonna come back to kneeling Mazzi. Uh
Speaker 8: you know the new guy kJ whoever Henry And it's
Speaker 8: just it's gonna come back down to the D line
Speaker 8: manufacturing something and that and then pass rush situations. You
Speaker 8: can't even you can't even run games and stunts because
Speaker 8: this kid will take off. So you can't, you know,
Speaker 8: shoot down with your with your two ends and let
Speaker 8: your tackles loop out. They ain't fast, they loop out.
Speaker 8: That kid take right on off to the outside. Marzi
Speaker 8: ain't gonna run him down, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: Ooster ain't gonna run him down. So you you got
Speaker 8: to come up this field like an umbrella. You know,
Speaker 8: the same with the run. You just gotta can't. You
Speaker 8: can't let them break ranks on you if it's in
Speaker 8: increase or any crack nagy and this guy gonna feel
Speaker 8: gonna hurt us. Man, it's one of these games where
Speaker 8: you're gonna have to try that gonna have to try
Speaker 8: with everything in his power to hold us into this game.
Speaker 8: That gonna have to do everything in his power. Change
Speaker 8: makes you win. The right play take take everything that
Speaker 8: they give you. Receivers can't drop balls further. You're gonna
Speaker 8: have to have the game of his life. Jason Ferkin's
Speaker 8: gonna have the game of his life. When you run
Speaker 8: up in there, run up in there with some power,
Speaker 8: with some force, do not get not one tackle for loss,
Speaker 8: even if you just gain one yard to get back
Speaker 8: to the line of scrimmage. You walk up to the
Speaker 8: line of scrimmage, that dark survey what's going on? Let
Speaker 8: him call it one second, I mean three seconds. Snap
Speaker 8: the ball. Anything you can to keep them off the field,
Speaker 8: because our defense is hurting. So anything that will keep
Speaker 8: our defense off the field. You gotta do.
Speaker 12: Time possessions huge.
Speaker 6: Our best defense will be our offense. Yes that eat
Speaker 6: that clock up and then end with touchdowns. Yes, in
Speaker 6: with touchdowns.
Speaker 5: Make Pittsburgh now have to play the game that they
Speaker 5: don't want to play.
Speaker 11: Thank you.
Speaker 6: They don't want to play this score for score game.
Speaker 6: They don't want justin fields in that in that type
Speaker 6: of a battle. They want to they'll they'll be okay
Speaker 6: with the seventeen twenty point game. That's where they live.
Speaker 6: They want to live in that area seventeen to twenty
Speaker 6: one points. They feel like we can compete in that
Speaker 6: area if if we can force them to get into
Speaker 6: that twenty four ish seven eight. If we get to
Speaker 6: the thirties, oh.
Speaker 8: We'll see Russell.
Speaker 5: We cook it in. If we can get it into
Speaker 5: that game. They don't want to play that game.
Speaker 6: But if you leave it in that area of fifteen
Speaker 6: seventeen nineteen twenty points.
Speaker 5: They want to live in that area.
Speaker 7: All right, let's take our last break. When we come back.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the final segment of Hanging with the Boys,
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Speaker 2: throwing out some scores, the previous scores of the Steelers,
Speaker 2: and Jesse was right on the money.
Speaker 12: Yeah, he was saying, they like to live in that
Speaker 12: my fifteen to twenty point zone. And they're three wins.
Speaker 12: It's been scores of eighteen to ten, thirteen to six,
Speaker 12: and twenty to ten. They're one loss. Last week to
Speaker 12: the Colts, they lost twenty seven to twenty four. So yeah,
Speaker 12: he's right. They like to keep it low scoring and
Speaker 12: grind it out.
Speaker 5: The thing, and they love it.
Speaker 8: Man, if you watch them when they play, you watch
Speaker 8: them on film, no heads dropped when they have to
Speaker 8: punt that. You know, you know, you kind of walk
Speaker 8: off the field sometime, like you defeat it. You know,
Speaker 8: they'll go three punts three three and out three and
Speaker 8: out there and they'll walk off the field, you know,
Speaker 8: Mike Cathlic, Mike, Mike Tomlin doing Jason Garrett. That's all right,
Speaker 8: we still up under ten points here.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I got that defense. Yeah.
Speaker 7: And they run, they run a lot.
Speaker 2: Uh, they're tied for first and rushing attempts, but they're
Speaker 2: twenty fifth and overall yards per carry at three point
Speaker 2: seven and then PFF has Najia Harris ranked as the
Speaker 2: forty sixth running back.
Speaker 8: So and they gonna keep scramming them up in them man.
Speaker 7: They're gonna run.
Speaker 2: You just hopefully they don't have a lot of a
Speaker 2: lot of success with that. And something something something I
Speaker 2: thought about yesterday I was gonna bring up on the show, and.
Speaker 8: I forgot.
Speaker 2: We all did our picks before the season, right right,
Speaker 2: And you know that's all Iffy on on injuries. Very
Speaker 2: rarely do you have two of your superstars go down
Speaker 2: on one side of the ball. Right, we're not going
Speaker 2: to redo picks. But the guaranteed games that you had
Speaker 2: on the schedule this year, there's really the rest of
Speaker 2: the season.
Speaker 7: There's maybe one guaranteed. Listen to this.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know what the red rifle
Speaker 2: throwing that ball in Carolina. You you you you might
Speaker 2: be okay, listen to this at the Steelers Lions. You're
Speaker 2: going to be an underdog at home at San Friand
Speaker 2: you're going to be an underdog at Atlanta.
Speaker 7: Coin flip. Probably Eagles, Texans, Commanders are looking pretty solid Giants.
Speaker 7: That's one.
Speaker 5: That's one.
Speaker 2: Bingles at the Panthers, you should They're not as terrible
Speaker 2: as they were, though not guaranteed. I don't think it's guaranteed.
Speaker 2: The Buccaneers, solid, Eagles and Commanders. So realistically, with these injuries,
Speaker 2: you could win five games.
Speaker 5: Or less this year.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's they're entering the toughest part of their schedule. Mean,
Speaker 12: it sure would be nice to get a win this
Speaker 12: week because those next few games.
Speaker 6: But well, let me even add let me throw a
Speaker 6: little bit more salt on the cowboys wounds from this.
Speaker 7: Don't make it impossible to find Santa Claus today.
Speaker 6: From this point forward, when you talk about the strength
Speaker 6: of schedule, oh god, the Cowboys have the fourth toughest
Speaker 6: strength of schedule. Number one is Cleveland, Number two is
Speaker 6: the Bears. Number three are the Giants. Number four are
Speaker 6: the Cowboys. And when you're talking about winning the division, right,
Speaker 6: that's all important. Take a wild Guess who has the
Speaker 6: least difficult schedule remaining?
Speaker 7: Washington?
Speaker 6: Guess Washington? Really Philadelphia? They are thirty second in the league. Wow,
Speaker 6: the easiest schedule, the easiest schedule going forward. The Philadelphia
Speaker 6: Eagles have the easiest schedule going up.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 8: But this is where y'all had them at the beginning
Speaker 8: of the year. I mean, this is not no surprise, right, but.
Speaker 2: I think you had a I think you had a
Speaker 2: positive outlook at this point. Right right now, it's like
Speaker 2: everybody's hurt.
Speaker 7: You can't stop the run, you can't cover anybody, you
Speaker 7: can't score points.
Speaker 6: And we're talking about this being contingent upon no one
Speaker 6: else getting hurt. Yeah, right, Like good point, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. And like let me, let me knock
Speaker 6: on wood.
Speaker 5: Don't want anybody else to get hurt.
Speaker 19: But you know what I'm saying, like old toes fingers,
Speaker 19: You cannot say a player's hand.
Speaker 7: You can say a position or a number, but not
Speaker 7: a name.
Speaker 6: But you know what I'm saying, like, that's that's you.
Speaker 6: You lost two you lost three players in one game.
Speaker 6: Actually you lost Brandon Cooks, Tank and Mike in one game.
Speaker 6: So you're you're hoping and this is gonna be a
Speaker 6: physical game like Pittsburgh's gonna be another physical game. That's
Speaker 6: just their brand of football. That's just that's just Pittsburgh
Speaker 6: in general. It's been that way since you've been playing football,
Speaker 6: right like before, it's been just a physical brand. They're
Speaker 6: gonna try to play that way. They're gonna try to
Speaker 6: play that way. And then next week you know that
Speaker 6: is you know you know what, you know what man
Speaker 6: Campbell gonna do?
Speaker 7: Bite you knee caps?
Speaker 12: How many games we have left? The teams you wouldn't
Speaker 12: consider physical.
Speaker 8: Since he.
Speaker 5: Since he yeah, at least defensively.
Speaker 7: Washington's will be physical.
Speaker 8: What y'all saying is we got how many games left?
Speaker 8: This is Week five, twelve twelve games now, so just
Speaker 8: since we've spoken on that out of the blue, give
Speaker 8: me your numbers.
Speaker 7: With the final record.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they finished six and six, they finished six last
Speaker 8: twelve game.
Speaker 7: I think six and ten is realistic or seven, six
Speaker 7: and eleven.
Speaker 8: No, no, no, these last games, last twelve, last twelve,
Speaker 8: these laste. Just get what's gone passed to inten since
Speaker 8: you know you brought it up to inten.
Speaker 7: I think that's realistic. I think they'll probably win.
Speaker 8: So you threw Santa Claus up let.
Speaker 2: Coming down, man, I'll give them benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 7: I'll say five a positive. This is me being positive right.
Speaker 2: Now at this point in the season, with the injuries
Speaker 2: and the way that they have looked offensively. You can't
Speaker 2: score points, you can kick the hell out of field goals,
Speaker 2: you can't stop the run.
Speaker 7: Your coverage is suspect five and seven. That's positive.
Speaker 9: I was, I was.
Speaker 5: I'm around four to eight.
Speaker 12: Yeah, be around five and seven realistically.
Speaker 7: I'm thinking three realistically.
Speaker 8: But wow, well do you think you tell this dude
Speaker 8: here not don't take away? Don't take away Santa Claus,
Speaker 8: give you the phair to god Mother.
Speaker 7: You know, Nate, even though.
Speaker 2: And if you got kids, turn the radio off. Even
Speaker 2: though I know they don't exist, I'm still going to
Speaker 2: look for them.
Speaker 7: I still want the presence.
Speaker 8: I still don't believe. So I'm gonna be hurt when
Speaker 8: we win games.
Speaker 7: I hope, right, mark this, Chris, mark this and bring
Speaker 7: it back.
Speaker 5: But I'm looking at the schedule.
Speaker 7: There's only three game difference, you know that, right, three
Speaker 7: game difference.
Speaker 17: We mean Philadelphia from thirty two the last of they're
Speaker 17: thirty two or four.
Speaker 7: Right, there's only three games that are different.
Speaker 2: That we have that they don't really in those three games, Okay,
Speaker 2: So here we go that much of a swing apparently.
Speaker 17: So Okay, they have to play Cleveland, which we already played. Okay,
Speaker 17: uh we played Detroit, so there's a big swing there. Okay,
Speaker 17: San Francisco we play, in Houston, we play Okay, they
Speaker 17: play Jacksonville and the Rams are the only other teams
Speaker 17: that we don't.
Speaker 8: Play and they do.
Speaker 17: But I'm just saying just from from that, from that standpoint,
Speaker 17: there's only like, really three games that is a swim.
Speaker 7: But I'm just saying, what's your score?
Speaker 8: What's you what you're thinking?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 7: At this point, I have no idea, no no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 7: you're not.
Speaker 8: You don't know.
Speaker 7: You don't get that. Don't gets that pass. He won
Speaker 7: three Super Bowls.
Speaker 10: Here, you do not.
Speaker 8: You may have won.
Speaker 18: And what I just gave you was nine. It was
Speaker 18: it was all know man, my eyes, what I just say?
Speaker 18: It was a five for me?
Speaker 7: Well, how many more wins we have?
Speaker 17: Yeah, I'm gonna stick with I'm gonna go with seven.
Speaker 7: Total, Yeah, or seven from here on out?
Speaker 8: Seventh?
Speaker 7: Seven, So you're going seven and five?
Speaker 8: What jazz rolling?
Speaker 7: They give us nine wins?
Speaker 12: The two two teams different going the rest of the
Speaker 12: way that the Commanders have to play or Chicago and Tennessee.
Speaker 8: So they probably.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 8: The thing. The good thing about this is I'm glad
Speaker 8: all our young guys are getting to play this year. Yeah,
Speaker 8: so we get something from the Jesse excuse me, So
Speaker 8: I like, what do you do that? Excuse but uh,
Speaker 8: the good thing is these guys getting to play, getting
Speaker 8: October and Jesse been he's been just Nate. I like him.
Speaker 8: I don't want to crush you. I don't want to
Speaker 8: crush He's getting a chance to play. And I am
Speaker 8: so happy whenever I see young guys get a chance
Speaker 8: to play that like when next year come, don't do this,
Speaker 8: don't don't. These guys have experience. They just have experience.
Speaker 5: You know, they get an experience coach.
Speaker 8: No, no, no, no, no, we're gonna have the same coaches. Robert.
Speaker 10: Talk to the man upstairs. Jesus, Yes, sir, I went
Speaker 10: right over, Jerry. Jerry, you're throwing the helicopter real quick.
Speaker 10: Anybody outside of pickings wear you on their offense. I
Speaker 10: got a pretty good tight end.
Speaker 5: Tight end he could he gave me. Yeah, he could be.
Speaker 5: He could, he could. I mean, he's no. How can
Speaker 5: I put it? He doesn't worry me in the sense
Speaker 5: of trying.
Speaker 6: To see the possession guy, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 6: but he'll be a guy, big body. When you I
Speaker 6: think you're about to get off the field, he'll find.
Speaker 5: Him that type of.
Speaker 8: It's third and seven. He'll be ready there six years
Speaker 8: and just fall. That's gonna He's not breaking anything. No,
Speaker 8: he's not in the day years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's Yes, he's very he's very witness witness.
Speaker 7: Yeah, hears and knows where to be turn turn yeah
Speaker 7: with a thud.
Speaker 8: Wow, Hey man, we gotta get we gotta come together. Man,
Speaker 8: he'll man, we got we gotta pray for the Cowboys.
Speaker 8: What do we want to do tomorrow? Oh all right,
Speaker 8: Chris looked at were going to these calls?
Speaker 7: Chris, are you here tomorrow?
Speaker 5: Of course I'm here.
Speaker 8: Let's go Bestaz jazzcuse me.
Speaker 7: Of course you're here tomorrow. You weren't here on Monday.
Speaker 5: I'm ninety percent of the time I'm here.
Speaker 8: You know where You're gonna rough this time I'm not.
Speaker 5: That's foul, man.
Speaker 6: Usually what Chris is going is something is behind the
Speaker 6: scenes that it's gonna come out right about three months.
Speaker 5: What's what's brewing? What's brewing?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 8: Remember coach came in?
Speaker 7: And what was the last time?
Speaker 8: Last time Coach came on the helicopter we had to
Speaker 8: shoot someone with Jerry.
Speaker 2: We couldn't tell y'all special Yeah, last time I disappeared
Speaker 2: for a year.
Speaker 7: So y'all better watch out.
Speaker 8: See Jesse.
Speaker 3: Good show, Chris, Chris company, We've been tomorrow.
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Speaker 7: Don't forget Jesse.
Speaker 12: I got you.
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