WEBVTT - Myanmar: Printing the Revolution, Part Three

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everyone, I'm Robert Evans, and welcome to episode three

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<v Speaker 1>of Printing the Revolution. Here's my partner, James Stout.

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<v Speaker 2>In the spring and summer of twenty twenty, millions of

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<v Speaker 2>Americans had versions of the same experience. State forces killed

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<v Speaker 2>the helpless man, Protesters took to the streets in anger,

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<v Speaker 2>and armed agents of the state responded with mass violence.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people's lives changed forever in fairly short order.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened in Me and Mara after the military coup

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<v Speaker 2>was that story turned up to eleven within days. The

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<v Speaker 2>military had used live fire and demonstrators zor our saws

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<v Speaker 2>for today's episode. We're twenty two years old. At the time.

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<v Speaker 2>He spend his days working as a delivery driver, hang

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<v Speaker 2>out with his girlfriend playing video games. On the day

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<v Speaker 2>the coup started, he was playing pubg after a long shift.

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<v Speaker 2>Soon he and his girlfriend took to the streets with

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of other gen z Burmese kids. The state responded

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<v Speaker 2>with massacres, often firing automatic weapons into the crowds. So

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<v Speaker 2>had n't been particularly politically active before this moment. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>he felt pretty poorly towards revolutionary supposing the government in

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<v Speaker 2>the jungle, seeing them as rebellious trouble makers.

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<v Speaker 3>In the past, we thought that the military is a

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<v Speaker 3>group that loves all the people and all the different

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<v Speaker 3>groups in the in the country. And then there's just

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<v Speaker 3>a few people who really hate the military. But especially

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<v Speaker 3>after the one who we face it with our own foreheads,

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<v Speaker 3>with the guns. We can face the evil the military

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<v Speaker 3>and all the human rights and things that people who

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<v Speaker 3>hated the military before we're talking about. We understand it

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<v Speaker 3>now because we had to face it ourselves. And then

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to tell us terrorists, and how very much

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<v Speaker 3>they call us. We know that we're finding for human

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<v Speaker 3>rights and we know that each person deserves these basic things,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. So so even when we capture a soldier,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't kill them immediately as they're unarmed. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>when they capture a PDF, they torture and kill them

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<v Speaker 3>very very horrifically or horrendously, and they kill and do

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<v Speaker 3>and hurt all the citizens and ordinary bystanders. So for us,

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<v Speaker 3>what they're calling as rebels before, we're not rebels. They're

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<v Speaker 3>the ones that are rebels, so we have to call

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<v Speaker 3>them rebels. They're the terrorists.

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<v Speaker 2>But as violence against protests escalated, so all began to

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<v Speaker 2>see through the lies he'd been told by the military

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<v Speaker 2>or his life.

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<v Speaker 3>What we were calling as rebels are what we kind

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<v Speaker 3>of become. But we know why we are now rebels.

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<v Speaker 3>That's because of their terrorism, their oppressive reviews, and their

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<v Speaker 3>violation of human rights. That's why we have to revolt

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<v Speaker 3>against them.

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<v Speaker 2>For a time, protects responded creatively with giant potato guns

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<v Speaker 2>meant to fire leslietho protectiles long distances. These homemade guns

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<v Speaker 2>to be fired in volleys well. Other protested protected them

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<v Speaker 2>with shields. Some of these tactics were effective at point,

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<v Speaker 2>but it quickly became clear that the government was willing

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<v Speaker 2>to massacre everyone's standing up to them, So his girlfriend

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<v Speaker 2>and their friends quickly decided that non violent resistance wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>going to work, but they didn't give up.

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<v Speaker 3>As we get into June, there's two paths, right. We

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<v Speaker 3>can be normal, we can on the streets. We can

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<v Speaker 3>ask for the people's power back, and since that's not working,

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<v Speaker 3>we know that what we have to do is we

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<v Speaker 3>need to hold these bunds, get these guns. And on

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<v Speaker 3>the military side, all they know is that they will

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<v Speaker 3>solve this by folding guns so the only thing, the

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<v Speaker 3>only path that's left for us is to take those

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<v Speaker 3>guns for ourselves. So around the end of May, we

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<v Speaker 3>started entering training school. So the downtour is the word

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<v Speaker 3>we use, and something like this corner part so one,

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<v Speaker 3>corner part one to two. So talking what that means

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<v Speaker 3>is that in the huntings huntings that we were doing,

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<v Speaker 3>hunting rifles that we were using for that. So we

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<v Speaker 3>kind of start started and we fought first and demoso,

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<v Speaker 3>if we can ask the military nicely, then there's no

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<v Speaker 3>reason for us to be using guns. But since they

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<v Speaker 3>don't listen to our demands or our requests at all,

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<v Speaker 3>then and since that all we can do, all they

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<v Speaker 3>are saying, all they're doing is using the guns and

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<v Speaker 3>being terrorists trying to shoot us. So the only things

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<v Speaker 3>that we can do to get what we need and

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<v Speaker 3>what we want is to take the concept for ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>And so, like hundreds of people his age, Zow headed

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<v Speaker 2>into the jungle in May of twenty twenty one. The

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<v Speaker 2>decision wasn't an over night one or an easy one,

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<v Speaker 2>but after protesting non violently, then meeting state violence with

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<v Speaker 2>community defense, then seeing his peers gunned down in the street,

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't have many other choices. He'd picked up a megaphone,

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<v Speaker 2>then a shield, and now he was heading in the

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<v Speaker 2>jungle to pick up a rifle. The only problem was

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<v Speaker 2>that there weren't any rifles.

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<v Speaker 1>He left with his girlfriend and quote with the blessing

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<v Speaker 1>of his parents. Keep that in mind for later. When

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<v Speaker 1>he first went to the jungle, Zol went to a

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<v Speaker 1>two week training camp where the Carinni People's Defense Force

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<v Speaker 1>taught him the basics of guerrilla warfare. But they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have enough weapons to arm him and his friends. So

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<v Speaker 1>these Jinz militants began their fighting careers with twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>caliber rifles. If you aren't a gun person, the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two was one of the smallest widely available bullets. Like

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<v Speaker 1>any bullet, it can kill, but as a caliber it's

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<v Speaker 1>better suited for shooting rabbits than soldiers. These twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>rifles were handmade locally and only fired one shot at

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<v Speaker 1>a time. But it was those rifles that Zaw, his girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>and their friends carried into their first gunfight with the Tatmadaw.

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<v Speaker 1>After battling like that for about three weeks, the shooting stopped,

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<v Speaker 1>he said in an interview, we conducted over signal. After

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<v Speaker 1>the shooting stopped, we grouped together money to buy arms

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<v Speaker 1>by asking for donations. They were massively outgunned, but determined

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<v Speaker 1>to fight on with the weapons they could make and

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<v Speaker 1>buy on the black market until they could find something better,

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<v Speaker 1>even if that meant taking guns from dead soldiers. The

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<v Speaker 1>military's guns are extremely good, of course, compared to point

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<v Speaker 1>two twos, he said. We fight with the mindset that

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<v Speaker 1>we must win. Our minds are always prepared to take

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<v Speaker 1>their guns when a soldier falls. It's a mindset to

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<v Speaker 1>want the enemy's arms to beat your own arms. You

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<v Speaker 1>need to want to resist injustice because we are fighting

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<v Speaker 1>for what is right. We do not get sad even

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<v Speaker 1>if we die. We are happy even when wounded. We

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<v Speaker 1>no longer care if our arms are matched unevenly not.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite their enthusiasm, PDF units all over the country were

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<v Speaker 1>finding themselves in the same desperate situation when thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>young people in Myanmar decided to take up arms against

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<v Speaker 1>the government. They're just warn enough guns to go around.

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<v Speaker 1>Ak pattern rifles sell for three thousand dollars on the

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<v Speaker 1>black market, and ar's sell for up to seven thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>The GDP per capita in twenty twenty was just twelve

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and eighteen dollars and thirty five cents per person,

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<v Speaker 1>and unlike militias in Syria and Iraq, the pro democracy

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<v Speaker 1>EAOs and Myanmar don't have the benefit questionable benefit of

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<v Speaker 1>the US flooding the region with its fire hose of

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<v Speaker 1>guns and money. Undeterred, Zaw and his squad took to YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>where they they found videos explaining how to make two

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<v Speaker 1>two three caliber bolt action rifles. Again, if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>a gun person, two two three may not sound very

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<v Speaker 1>different than twenty two, but whereas twenty two is commonly

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<v Speaker 1>used to shoot squirrels, two to three is the standard

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<v Speaker 1>rifle round more or less for the US military. These

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<v Speaker 1>new bolt action two two threes All and his friends

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<v Speaker 1>were making could not match the rate of fire of

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<v Speaker 1>a modern rifle, but they could at least match those

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<v Speaker 1>rifles in stopping power. Once these gin z insurgeons had

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<v Speaker 1>the technique down, they created a detailed album on Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>showing how everything from the stalk to the barrel could

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<v Speaker 1>be made with pipes, lumber, and hours and hours of

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<v Speaker 1>detailed hard work. Unlike their guerrilla warfare instructors, These kids

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<v Speaker 1>had grown up on the Internet rather than the jungle,

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<v Speaker 1>so they knew that if it exists, there's a subreddit

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<v Speaker 1>for it. It was the Internet that came to their rescue.

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<v Speaker 1>Three D printed guns have been around for a decade,

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<v Speaker 1>but the early models didn't work well and suffered from

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty bad reputation due in part to Cody Wilson,

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<v Speaker 1>the pedophileitarian activists we discussed last episode. Jake Hanrahan of

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<v Speaker 1>Popular Front has covered the printed gun movement extensively.

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<v Speaker 4>Cody Wilson made his whole thing like, I'm the guy

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<v Speaker 4>with the three D printed guns, and he was on

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<v Speaker 4>this moral crusade. The three D printed gun lads, particularly

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<v Speaker 4>the Terrence Dispense, were like, yeah, don't give a shit

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<v Speaker 4>about that. We're just putting our stuff out into the world.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously they got their ideas, but they weren't really wedded

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<v Speaker 4>to this idea of it being one person.

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<v Speaker 1>Deterrence Dispensed was a group of anonymous activists who were

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<v Speaker 1>more concerned with making printed guns that worked than making

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<v Speaker 1>a name for themselves. Hammerhan was connected to one activist

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<v Speaker 1>who used the pseudonym j. Stark through the group, and

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<v Speaker 1>after three years of conversing online. Hamrahan met Stark in

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<v Speaker 1>Germany to produce a documentary. Jay Stark died of a

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<v Speaker 1>heart attack following a police raid last year, so we

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<v Speaker 1>spoke to Hanrahan about Stark's worldview.

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<v Speaker 4>His whole worldview comes from this idea that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's everybody should have the right to be able to

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<v Speaker 4>fight tyranny. And if you can't fight any like, you're fucked.

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<v Speaker 4>And the way to fight tyranny in the modern era

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<v Speaker 4>is firearms. We know that, you know, there's there's no

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<v Speaker 4>you can't argue, it's there's no peaceful march gets rid

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<v Speaker 4>of a fascist dictatorship or whatever. But he he was,

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<v Speaker 4>he he was you know, there's some people would say

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<v Speaker 4>he was far right. Some people say he was an anarchist.

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<v Speaker 4>Some people say he was a US patriot type. I mean, first,

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<v Speaker 4>he wasn't even from America, and he had a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of he liked the laws in America, but he wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>like some of the American kind of fan boy or

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<v Speaker 4>anything on that sense. He liked the gun laws, he

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<v Speaker 4>liked the freedom of speech lords, which I do as well.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, like personally I in this country, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>if you tweet the wrong thing, even in jest, like

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<v Speaker 4>police will literally come to your house in Britain like

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<v Speaker 4>it's happened, it's fucking mental. So yeah, he liked that

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<v Speaker 4>kind of thing, and I think, I think for him

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<v Speaker 4>it was he was very tonal vision. You know, he

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<v Speaker 4>was very tonal vision. It was just freedom, freedom of freedom,

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<v Speaker 4>and if you said, well what about this, what about that,

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<v Speaker 4>he was like, I don't care about that until the

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<v Speaker 4>freedom there, there's no point looking at anything else. And

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<v Speaker 4>so his brain was always on people that are living

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<v Speaker 4>on the tyranny, you know, and it genuinely would. I know,

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<v Speaker 4>there's a lot of people, even leftists, particularly leftists, had

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<v Speaker 4>tried to completely smear him as a white supremacist. They

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<v Speaker 4>were saying, oh, everything he said in that doc that

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<v Speaker 4>I made was really it was secret anti Jewish white supremacy.

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<v Speaker 4>And then it came out that he wasn't even white.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. It was like very good, very good, you

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<v Speaker 4>fucking idiots. So there was a lot of that going around.

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<v Speaker 4>But I honestly believe that deep down he was just

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<v Speaker 4>tunnel vision, focused on this idea of every Until everybody

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<v Speaker 4>is not living under tyranny, I must go on this

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<v Speaker 4>mission and Okay, if someone shoots up at school with

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<v Speaker 4>what I've invented, so be it. You know, which I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not saying that's good, but that was just his idea.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. He was like, so be it. Fuck it

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<v Speaker 4>if I can. You know, he was very genuine when

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<v Speaker 4>he was on about the wigas, or he was on

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<v Speaker 4>about the mistreatment of Kurds from Turkey, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he was like, look, if we can build something that

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<v Speaker 4>can help them, well, sorry that the West might get

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<v Speaker 4>fucked up because of it, but I'm focused on this now. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>in practice that would be chaos probably, but you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he just saw it the way he saw it, and

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<v Speaker 4>that was that.

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<v Speaker 1>The cavalier attitude Stark seems to have had to how

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<v Speaker 1>his invention might be used is of course worthy of criticism.

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<v Speaker 1>But the revolutionaries on the ground in Myanmar were not

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<v Speaker 1>concerned with ideological debates over the ethics of homemade firearms.

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<v Speaker 1>They needed guns, and they needed them now. J. Stark's

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<v Speaker 1>FGC nine, which stands for Fuck Gun Control nine millimeter,

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<v Speaker 1>was simple to make, easy to use, and relied entirely

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<v Speaker 1>on parts you could print or buy in any hardware

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<v Speaker 1>store in September of twenty twenty one, a post popped

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<v Speaker 1>up on the foss cads subreddit, which is dedicated to

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<v Speaker 1>the manufacturing of three D printed guns. Stark is a

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<v Speaker 1>hero there. The post said, wanted to say thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>this community, the creators of FGC nine and the various

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<v Speaker 1>mods when we could you guys are literally empowering the

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<v Speaker 1>armed revolution against dictators in one of the most underdeveloped countries.

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<v Speaker 1>We are now equipped with FGC nine and starting the

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<v Speaker 1>armed revolution to the coup leader dictator. As one poster comments,

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<v Speaker 1>the account quote went from posting about mobile games to

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<v Speaker 1>how did three D print SMGs? To desperately asking people

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<v Speaker 1>to pay attention what was happening in me and mar

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<v Speaker 1>Then after the FGC nine post, it was deleted entirely.

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Stark never lived to see this.

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<v Speaker 4>He would have loved it. What everything that he was doing,

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<v Speaker 4>that was the main focus in my opinion, that like,

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<v Speaker 4>it couldn't be a more perfect, like practical actual realization

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<v Speaker 4>of his project. You couldn't pick a more perfect version

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<v Speaker 4>of it to happen like that, you know. And there's

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of talk of oh, where there's a load

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<v Speaker 4>of drug dealers in Amsterdam I have FGC nine's. There

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<v Speaker 4>was a Nazi recently arrested with one. You know, these

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<v Speaker 4>people are awful, of course, but the most prevalent use

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<v Speaker 4>of the FGC nine, at least from what I've observed,

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<v Speaker 4>has been from the Red was in my mum making them.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I've seen like thirty of them so far.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, that's a lot of them, And there was

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<v Speaker 4>one was found stashed in a bush. My theory is

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<v Speaker 4>there left the round for ambush attacks and areas that

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<v Speaker 4>are not as fully controlled by the rebels.

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<v Speaker 2>Foss Cad, a community of mostly US based Guan printers,

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<v Speaker 2>lost its collective mind, and it didn't take long for

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<v Speaker 2>people to make the connection between the post and a

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<v Speaker 2>desperate plight of me and Mars Spring revolution. Soon after

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<v Speaker 2>the post, the tat Mador started posting pictures of FGC nines,

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<v Speaker 2>often without sites captured from fighters in Yangon. On the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty first of September, the Tatmador's Ministry of Information released

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<v Speaker 2>a statement. I Miat Thwei and Ye mint Ang were

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<v Speaker 2>found with an FGC nine Mark two pistol five round

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<v Speaker 2>pounds of nine millimeters ammunition. They were arrested along with

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<v Speaker 2>their drone. The military alleged they were an urban unit

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<v Speaker 2>from the same generation z E Freedom Army that Zoor

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<v Speaker 2>was a part of. That same month, the military posted

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<v Speaker 2>pictures of three more captured FGC nines, suggesting that at

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<v Speaker 2>least five have been captured by late September. Then two

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<v Speaker 2>months later a new post popped up and the fosscat subreddit, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm back and the guy who posted a thank you

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<v Speaker 2>note back in September here. Now that the FGC nines

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<v Speaker 2>are ready known by the dictator, I can proudly announce

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<v Speaker 2>that we're from me and mar. Yes, we are mass

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<v Speaker 2>producing FGC nines to fight back against the Dictator. More

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<v Speaker 2>info about our production will be published later this time.

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<v Speaker 2>The user u slash daddy umcd hung around to answer questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Those bastards didn't know we had the tech back then.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that everything in public, we can proudly say we're

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<v Speaker 2>from me and Mah. We are mostly responsible for production

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<v Speaker 2>on R and D, even though we also involved in

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<v Speaker 2>other ground missions. We distribute the FDC nine to a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of different urban guerrillas in urban and rural areas.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the units got arrested a few weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 2>which you might have already seen on the subreddit. Apart

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<v Speaker 2>from the FDC nine, there are other equipments and weapons

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<v Speaker 2>that are being produced with three D printers, he wrote.

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<v Speaker 2>He said his team were residing in ethnic armed organization areas,

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<v Speaker 2>mainly the Koran National Union and the Kachin Independence Army

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<v Speaker 2>controlled zones. He posted that they tried other three D

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<v Speaker 2>printer designs, such as the PLASTICOV, which is a printed

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<v Speaker 2>AK forty seven receiver, but getting the other parts made

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<v Speaker 2>it impractical. By contrast, the FDC nine can be made

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<v Speaker 2>entirely using a three D printer and some hardware store parts.

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<v Speaker 2>According to another source, ME and Mars small motorcycle repair

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<v Speaker 2>shops made quick work the metal barrels and bolts. Electrochemical

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<v Speaker 2>machining was used to make more barrels. They also had

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<v Speaker 2>the chance to buy a few clock barrels from Thailand,

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<v Speaker 2>Daddy UMCD said, but those cost a lot more than

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<v Speaker 2>the FGC nine barrels. While his account continued to post,

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<v Speaker 2>the military continued to share photos of captured FGC nines.

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<v Speaker 2>Three workshops that had been using lathes to make the

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<v Speaker 2>barrels were raided. A photos of three more captured guns

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<v Speaker 2>popped up in November alongside bolt action rifles. It still

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<v Speaker 2>had stickers on their stocks from what looked like US

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<v Speaker 2>gun shops. Production and decentralized locations continued despite the raids,

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<v Speaker 2>while other groups fought on with homemade revolving rifles, crewded

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<v Speaker 2>homemade wooden stocks, and other improvised weapons. A telegram channel

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<v Speaker 2>with instructions in Burmese on how to make the guns

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<v Speaker 2>made sure that even when one shop or gunsmith was

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<v Speaker 2>taken out of the fight, the knowledge wasn't lost. Although

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<v Speaker 2>filament for their three D printers were becoming harder to get,

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<v Speaker 2>they'd stockpiled a lot in advance. Daddy UMCD tried to

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<v Speaker 2>manufacture automatic FGC nines and another printable model called Professor

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<v Speaker 2>Parabellum square tubes up machine gun, but nothing else seemed

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<v Speaker 2>as easier as reliable as the FGC nine. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>read it being read it, people questioned the veracity and

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<v Speaker 2>utility of his posts. He responded, FDC nines are just

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<v Speaker 2>part of the game because they could be produced with

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<v Speaker 2>what we have at the lowest cost. Available rifles of

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<v Speaker 2>four thousand to seven thousand US dollars at our border.

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<v Speaker 2>Fgcs are under one hundred dollars. Rifle parts are ten

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<v Speaker 2>times more expensive than lock parts. To all those who

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<v Speaker 2>are saying that these photos as sus we don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to blame your suspicion if an if you remember the

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<v Speaker 2>thread I posted in September, you'll remember that we are

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<v Speaker 2>mass producing FGC knights. The ones in the photos you've

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<v Speaker 2>seen were supplied by us. There are many groups like

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<v Speaker 2>this now we do the main production, just like I

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<v Speaker 2>explained in September. Then, Daddy UMCD went on to thank

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<v Speaker 2>the other members of the subreddit, claiming their active help

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<v Speaker 2>was the only reason he and other revolutionaries have been

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<v Speaker 2>able to overcome certain technical issues. We wouldn't be here

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<v Speaker 2>without you guys, especially with someone who shared with me.

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<v Speaker 2>The buffer spring and fire control groups bring measurements, he said.

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<v Speaker 2>By late November, photos of FGC nines in the hands

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<v Speaker 2>of fighters emerged, and they showed sites. This time they

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<v Speaker 2>had longer barrels and homemade suppressors too. The FGC nines

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<v Speaker 2>were apparently used by urban units for close up fighting

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<v Speaker 2>and for the training of new fighters, since they have

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<v Speaker 2>essentially the same controls as an AR fifteen or sixteen rifle,

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<v Speaker 2>both of which are common in ME and r's rebel units.

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<v Speaker 2>We have successfully streamlined a variety of techniques to produce

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<v Speaker 2>FGC nine one thousand plus efficiently. Our primary forces arequipped

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<v Speaker 2>with proper rifles. FGC nine's are for guerrilla warfare. We

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<v Speaker 2>started using those in Hit and Run and Special Task

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<v Speaker 2>Force missions too. We don't share much about the missions

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<v Speaker 2>to the public yet. It will definitely come, and when

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<v Speaker 2>it does, are updated here if I'm still alive, ha ha,

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<v Speaker 2>wrote Daddy umcd on the foscat subreddit. Even with production

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<v Speaker 2>and full swing, ammunition remained a problem. Although some regions

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<v Speaker 2>can produce twenty two and nine millimeter home According to

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<v Speaker 2>Daddy umcd, five five six can be purchased in large

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<v Speaker 2>quantities at the border with Thailand, but it isn't cheap. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>the PDF relied on raiding police and military outposts in

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<v Speaker 2>the same way the EEOS had for years. Nine millimeter

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<v Speaker 2>is the most common center fire pistol around in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why Deterrent's Dispense picked it for the FGC nine.

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<v Speaker 2>C's weapons often only have a handful of rounds, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's enough to kill a soul and take his weapon.

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<v Speaker 2>Jay Stock might not have been around to see his

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<v Speaker 2>invention used to fight Trney, But Hammerhan thinks he would

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<v Speaker 2>have been happy with the results.

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<v Speaker 4>He would have been made up. I think that's everything

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<v Speaker 4>he wanted to achieve, You know what I'm saying, That

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<v Speaker 4>really is everything you wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Even the National Unity Government MI and Ma's government in

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<v Speaker 2>exile has come around to any some of Jay Stark's

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<v Speaker 2>ways of thinking. According to Daddy umcd our, Minister of

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<v Speaker 2>Defense Minister already promised about the right to bear arms

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<v Speaker 2>at the first day of the revolution.

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<v Speaker 1>Promises made by revolutionary governments are not exactly solid commitments,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not hard to see why a generation of

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<v Speaker 1>kids like Zaw, forged by an asymmetrical conflict with a

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<v Speaker 1>government that possessed a near absolute advantage in armaments, might

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<v Speaker 1>be committed to staying armed even if they win. At

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<v Speaker 1>the moment, the future of their struggle is very much

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<v Speaker 1>end doubt. Scrolling through Facebook photos of Zaw and his

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<v Speaker 1>comrades as a surreal experience. They look not just young

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<v Speaker 1>soldiers mostly look young, but they look like students kids

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<v Speaker 1>from some weirdly militarized university. Photos on Facebook show them

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<v Speaker 1>sprawled out together in the grass and Camo fatigues bearing rifles,

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<v Speaker 1>but each glued to their phones as they cuddle in together.

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<v Speaker 1>Zaw and his girlfriend, who he described to us as

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<v Speaker 1>the girl I love, fought alongside each other until January

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<v Speaker 1>seventh of this year.

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<v Speaker 3>The battle that we started, she was coming within and

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<v Speaker 3>you know as halficens. A weapon landed near her and

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<v Speaker 3>it hit her like so their bone broke, so she

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<v Speaker 3>had to go to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>Three D printed and homemade guns have helped, but Zaw

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<v Speaker 1>and his friends are still fighting against a modern military

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<v Speaker 1>with planes, night vision goggles, and tanks. Despite this, more

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<v Speaker 1>than a year after the coup, they're still fighting and

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<v Speaker 1>more soldiers deffect to join them weekly. It's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>see what victory looks like. The cities will be another

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<v Speaker 1>battle altogether, but in the jungle camp where Zaw video

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<v Speaker 1>calls us, it's impossible to see what giving up might

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<v Speaker 1>look like. Either he's still fighting, his girlfriend is healing,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're both committed to staying out in the jungle

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<v Speaker 1>until they are in their freedom back or die trne It.

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