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Speaker 1: Sports Radio Final Hour on this Tuesday. We'll check in

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Speaker 1: with the Chargers head coach Brandon Staley in about fifteen

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Speaker 1: minutes from now. We're phone calls from you. Touched on

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Speaker 1: a variety of topics today. By the way, according to

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Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport, Richard Sherman is visiting the Tampa Bay Buccaneers today.

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Speaker 1: That's his first visit a free agent. For Richard Sherman,

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Speaker 1: he had been rumored to maybe reuniting with the forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers, maybe Seattle, and he's gonna make a pit

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Speaker 1: stop with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Eight seven seven three

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Speaker 1: d P Show email address dpit Dan Patrick dot com,

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Speaker 1: Twitter handle at DP Show. When you have a standalone game,

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Speaker 1: the national perception changes dramatically. You're either a lot better

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Speaker 1: or you're a lot worse. Usually, when somebody watches a

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Speaker 1: standalone game, you don't come away with a I don't know,

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Speaker 1: ye blaise feeling. You either have, boy, the Eagles are

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Speaker 1: terrible or and the Cowboys look like they could be

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Speaker 1: a real playoff contender. Maybe you go to the NFC

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Speaker 1: title game. I mean, that's the feeling today. The Eagles

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Speaker 1: are in a rebuild, they just don't know they're in

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Speaker 1: a rebuild. And the Cowboys, with that offense, a couple

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Speaker 1: of playmakers on defense, they're going to be a tough

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Speaker 1: team to be. You also look at the division that

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Speaker 1: they're in. We haven't seen much from the Giants. We

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Speaker 1: haven't seen anything from the Eagles, and you always have

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Speaker 1: the wild card with Washington. Maybe that defense acts like

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Speaker 1: it's supposed to, but hasn't through the first three games

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Speaker 1: of the season. But Dallas with a big win last night.

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Speaker 1: Impressive win, a win that you would expect. But Dak

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Speaker 1: looked good, completing eighty percent of his passes now and

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Speaker 1: back to back games. What was more impressive was the

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Speaker 1: win against the Chargers because you're doing that on the

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Speaker 1: road and they're not afraid to establish the run, which

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Speaker 1: I like because why not have an impact a statement

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Speaker 1: where you control the line of scrimmage and you keep

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Speaker 1: your defense off the field. I want Michael Parsons when

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Speaker 1: he comes on the field to just be ready to go.

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Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs has established himself as the cowboys best cornerback

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Speaker 1: in years. Like that is a lockdown defensive back. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you got a couple of playmakers on there because for years,

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Speaker 1: because you play for the Cowboys. Oh do you see

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Speaker 1: who they got? They got to Marcus Lawrence. All righty,

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Speaker 1: what's he done the last couple of years? Layton vander

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Speaker 1: ash She's one of the great stories. Okay, And you

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Speaker 1: would have these guys and you go just because you

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Speaker 1: play for the Cowboys, you're immediately better than what you are.

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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons is better than what you think he is, probably,

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Speaker 1: and Trayvon Diggs and you're he's playing it differently than

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Speaker 1: just a regular middle linebacker, Like I can line him

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Speaker 1: up on the edge and he may be even more

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Speaker 1: valuable on the edge. He's a little undersized, He's like

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Speaker 1: Elvis Dumerville. Wasn't he like five eleven maybe out of Louisville. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you have that sort of undersize. But he's he's quick.

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Speaker 1: And Trayvon Diggs played well again last night with Devontae Smith. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: po Elvis Dumerville five eleven, great pull by you. His

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Speaker 1: middle name, by the way, Elvis Cool Duomerville. I had

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Speaker 1: no idea cool We had him on the show here, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we did, Yes Me Club. But if Michael Parsons was

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Speaker 1: like a Carolina Panther. Even though he looks great like

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Speaker 1: we probably wouldn't be talking about him that much anyway.

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Speaker 1: It's it's how do we know he's at the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: effect as well well because they're on Monday Night football. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and yes, is he going to get more publicity, But

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Speaker 1: this is a guy that if you looked at what

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Speaker 1: he did at Penn State and you look at the

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Speaker 1: measurables that he was going to be an impact player.

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Speaker 1: The question is was he going to act like a rookie.

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Speaker 1: We we often look at the quarterback who's a rookie

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Speaker 1: and go, Danny looks lost out there. Defensive players can

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Speaker 1: look lost out there too as a rookie. And I

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Speaker 1: think if you saw in the preseason, Michael Parsons was

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Speaker 1: all over the field, but there are times when I

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Speaker 1: thought Tom Brady manipulated him. And that's understandable. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is going to happen, but he'll get better and

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Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs as well. But you're going to need that

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Speaker 1: as good as that offense can be, going to come

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Speaker 1: down to a defensive stop. And now I looked at

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Speaker 1: the schedule. Here, you got Carolina. You're hosting Carolina, then

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Speaker 1: I mean, conceivably you could look at that that they

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Speaker 1: then they go into Kansas City. But then after that

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Speaker 1: they got the Raiders, the Saints, Washington, New York, Washington, Arizona, Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: They could conceivably have, you know, twelve wins this year.

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Speaker 1: They could You could make an argument that, given what

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Speaker 1: Ram's got competition top to bottom in their division. Tampa

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Speaker 1: don't know. And that's where you get the team that

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Speaker 1: host the NFC title game. Yeah, Polly, I look at

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Speaker 1: some of the point differentials. The Packers are two and one,

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Speaker 1: but they've been outscored by fifteen points this year. And

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Speaker 1: then the entire AFC South Mclove's AFC South, they've all

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Speaker 1: been outscored by at least nine points on the season.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady returns to New England. If you haven't heard,

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Speaker 1: facing off against his former team, that'll be Sunday Night

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Speaker 1: the Let's Go Podcast with Jim Gray as the host.

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Speaker 1: And here's Tom talking about going back to Foxborough. There's

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Speaker 1: different emotions that are cued by different you know, experiences

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Speaker 1: years in one place, You're right. I know that locker room,

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Speaker 1: I know that home locker room. I know that home tunnel,

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Speaker 1: know everything about that. I know the way it smells.

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Speaker 1: I know what a night games like, I know what

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Speaker 1: the fans are going to sound like. So in some

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Speaker 1: ways that'll be really unique. I've never had experience going

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Speaker 1: he's reminiscing with Bill Belichuk anytime soon. Now. I still

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Speaker 1: go back to the interview prior to the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: against the Eagles, when I ask him, do you think

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Speaker 1: and take a trip down memory lane. He goes, No,

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Speaker 1: I really no, that's that's that's not what we do.

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Speaker 1: That's not what he does. Yeah, Seed, if Tom is

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Speaker 1: worried about the locker room being bucked, he never played

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Speaker 1: He'd like the locker forty seven, stay away from that.

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Speaker 1: Imagine if they the Patriots like absolutely destroy the Buccaneers

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Speaker 1: and post game, Brady's like, we all know what went

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Speaker 1: on here? Yeah, we all know. Yeah, they bugged the locks.

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Speaker 1: They do that. It's like they knew every play was

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Speaker 1: going before it happened. Yeah. Bill Belichick does his weekly

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Speaker 1: media press conference, but he also has a radio appearance

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Speaker 1: on WEI and he was asked a question about did

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Speaker 1: the Patriots truly want to resign Tom Brady? Bill, over

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Speaker 1: the course of you and Tom's time together, you said

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Speaker 1: dozens of times that there was no quarterback you would

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Speaker 1: rather have. When did that change? Never changed? So you

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Speaker 1: wanted Tom to resign here after the twenty nineteen season, Well,

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Speaker 1: We weren't as good an options on Tampa. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: but this offer is so good, Hun, I've got to

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Speaker 1: could you nunciate just trying that a little bit full

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Speaker 1: sentence please? Yeah, yes, Love. You know when you're talking

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Speaker 1: with my wife. I just said, I know she's out listening, like, yeah, Bills,

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Speaker 1: last week? Oh? You know? Probably so you know you Yes.

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Speaker 1: When Bill Belchick keeps saying these press cots so I

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Speaker 1: is to blame the media for rehashing things? And how

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Speaker 1: the way it works, Coach Bill, Bill didn't do this,

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Speaker 1: you know press conference where I'm gonna tell this is

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Speaker 1: my thoughts on this. He hasn't hashed it. We still

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Speaker 1: We don't know the full story. Yeah, see, I like

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Speaker 1: what the data tells you is that he's going to score,

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Speaker 1: and so I think, you know, it's it's like defending

424
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 1: Golden State. You can't just expect this to be an

425
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 1: old school Eastern Conference final in New York Knicks Chicago

426
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: goals eighty three seventy nine slugfest. It's just it's not

427
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,919
Speaker 1: going to be played that way. You have to be

428
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 1: able to score the ball. And I felt like that's

429
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: what gave us a chance in the game, was we

430
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 1: were four out of five touchdowns in the red area.

431
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: You know, you got to be of that mindset to

432
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Speaker 1: score the football. And so we're fortunate that we also

433
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 1: have a complete offense, you know, led by a tremendous

434
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 1: we're back in and we've got really good skilled players

435
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: and our offensive line is really coming together. So when

436
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 1: you play against that team, you've got to be able

437
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,199
Speaker 1: to score. If somebody hadn't seen justin Herbert play, how

438
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 1: would you describe? Yeah, I think he makes playing quarterback

439
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: look effortless. I think that there's a lot that he

440
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: the way he plays where he's just really really smooth,

441
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 1: where you don't even realize what's you know, unfolding before

442
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: your eyes, Like some of the throws that he's able

443
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 1: to make. Some of the places he's able to make,

444
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: he really makes it look easy. He's just a really

445
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: smooth player. Like just his stroke, Like the way he

446
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: throws the football, it's just it's such an effortless stroke.

447
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: It doesn't look like he's straining. You know, he had

448
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: this throw against the Cowboys. It's a field hash, kind

449
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: of too deep zone beat or hey, I'm gonna keep

450
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: my eyes in the middle and then I'm gonna unpack

451
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: really like a sixty plus yard throw on the sideline

452
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: to Keenan, And that just the velocity of that throw

453
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: is just really unique. The way he can and play

454
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: the game. And I think the other thing dan about

455
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: him is he's really instinctive for the position. You know,

456
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: he plays the game with tremendous instincts on game day,

457
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 1: Like he is truly at his best on game day

458
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: because he can see the field, he can see the field,

459
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: he can feel the rush, and he's got those instincts

460
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: where he's making the right decision a lot of the time.

461
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: And that's really special. And and then you know he's

462
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 1: just one of the guys too. Like if you see

463
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: the way his teammates play around him. I think you

464
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 1: can tell a lot about a quarterback by how his

465
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: teammates respond to him on both sides of the ball.

466
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Speaker 1: And if you look at that game on Sunday, the

467
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 1: way our team feels about him, I think tells you

468
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: a lot of who he is as a person and

469
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Speaker 1: as a competitor. Do you sometimes forget that he's played

470
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: twenty some games in his career like that, that he's

471
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Speaker 1: a kid out there? He can make you feel that

472
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 1: way for sure. He can make you feel like you're

473
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Speaker 1: around a much wiser older player with how he is

474
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: able to absorb and process and then apply. You know

475
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: he can. He just has that capacity. You know, I

476
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: like that word like he has that capacity. But at

477
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Speaker 1: the same time, you do realize that he's at the beginning,

478
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Speaker 1: and you know, myself and Joe Lombardi, Shane Day, we're

479
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: trying to dive into his game all the time because

480
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: there's so many areas where he can improve and and

481
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: what's exciting is that he loves to improve. He loves

482
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Speaker 1: the work, he loves that that that process to improve

483
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 1: And you know, we're still at the beginning with him.

484
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: But I know that on Sunday he has pick reason

485
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Speaker 1: why we won that game. He's Brandon Staley, the Chargers

486
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Speaker 1: head coach. They got the Raiders on Monday night and coach,

487
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,479
Speaker 1: of course, went through the University of Dayton started two

488
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: years I believe at quarterback going sixteen and five? Is

489
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: that right? Do you think that? Is that your one

490
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: loss record? Coach? Sixteen and five? I remember all five losses,

491
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: that's for sure. Okay, But do you ever sit down

492
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Speaker 1: with Justin Herbert and you both reminisce about your college days,

493
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Speaker 1: Like you tell him, this is what I used to

494
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Speaker 1: do at the University of Dayton. I don't go back

495
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: to my quarterbacking days too often. I'm a lot more

496
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: um impressed by his quarterbacking status and we try to

497
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 1: keep that the main focus. And I definitely wouldn't want

498
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Speaker 1: him to create any any bad habits by watching my

499
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: game tape. Okay, but what if I had a head

500
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Speaker 1: coaching quarterback challenge? Who would who would be the best

501
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: head coach? Well? I think I I you know, I

502
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: take Justin and I I take Justin I to the

503
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 1: game versus versus anybody know, just just the head coaches.

504
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 1: It's just you versus. Oh okay, I thought you meant

505
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: quarterback Cliff Cliff Cliff Kingsbury Frank Right, Yeah, I mean

506
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: you're talking about you know, you're talking about some pretty

507
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: impressive names there. I don't know if I would be

508
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: able to to take you know, I certainly got confidence

509
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: in myself. I think it would depend on the competition

510
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: for sure. Um, but you got to be better than Gruden, right,

511
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: I think that's it. Wait, that's that's bulletin board material

512
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: here for this Monday nightcare. No, No, definitely not. I was.

513
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: I was a freshman in college when they when they

514
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl and he came to speak at

515
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: UD he was doing as his book tour, so uh,

516
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: you know, he certainly accomplished a lot more as an

517
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Speaker 1: NFL coach than I. What were you doing five years

518
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: ago this weekend? Five years ago? I was, I was

519
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: at Carroll. Uh you know we were. I think we

520
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 1: had just so John Carroll, John Carroll, Yeah outside of Cleveland,

521
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and you you played Heidelberg, Yeah yeah, we

522
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 1: And that was a listen before I got to Carrol.

523
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: They got absolutely smoked by this team. This kind of

524
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: was like a rugged, tough really have a lot of

525
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: respect for this football team. They've had a lot of

526
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: NFL guys come out of there, and you know, I

527
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: think they lost like forty two fourteen the year before

528
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 1: Tommy and I got there, and that was it. That

529
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: was a rivalry that really had to turn around, and

530
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: they always played as tough and that was that was

531
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: a big game. And that twenty sixteen season kind of

532
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: our best season, that magical season that we had, and

533
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: we had a good game plan. They had a really

534
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: good runner and really good receivers who ended up going

535
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: to the NFL. Don't they die, So we ended up

536
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 1: kind of taking him out of the game. And so

537
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: that's what I was doing five years ago. That's amazing. Now,

538
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: did coach Shula go to John Carroll? Yeah, coach who

539
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: is the most famous Caroll along? But then you add

540
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: you know, Dayton had John Gruden, Jerry Falls and Chuck Noll. Yeah,

541
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: oh yeah, coach Noll. Yeah. I don't know how many

542
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: schools have head coaches who won a Super Bowl and

543
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: Dayton's got two, and then you'll be the third. We're

544
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: too kind. Well, I coached with you know, the guy

545
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: that brought me into the NFL, as John Fox and

546
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: Foxy means so much to me, I certainly wouldn't be

547
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: here without him, and he coached for Chuck Noll, and

548
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that you know, man, I

549
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: wish I could have met him because just the stories

550
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: that people have about him and how he led that

551
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: football team and just a lot of the coaches that

552
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: have come out of there, you know, Tony Dungee and

553
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: all these amazing coaches, like I'm a proud UD. I'm

554
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: proud to share that that UD alumni with Coach Nolan

555
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: and John for sure, great to talk to you again. Coach,

556
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: congratulations on the win, Good luck Monday night against John

557
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: Gruden and company. Thanks a lot, Dan Brandon Staley, you

558
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,479
Speaker 1: know what I saw what's interesting with the Chargers. They

559
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: were aggressive. They were aggressive late in the game. They

560
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: went forward on fourth and nine, and you'll have to

561
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: do that with Kansas City. I think you're going to

562
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: see teams all year long on fourth down when it's manageable,

563
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: go for it against the Chiefs instead of kicking a

564
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: field goal or if you're in punt position, because you must.

565
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: You got to push the envelope on them. That defense

566
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: isn't that good and I can't let Mahomes have the

567
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: ball back. You gotta score touchdowns. Now, you can't go

568
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: into the red zone and kick field goals. And the

569
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: Chargers were aggressive, but also when you're limiting him to

570
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: less than six yards per attempt, that's what's amazing. They

571
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: also hit him seven times, So that's one of those

572
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: where and yes, the Chargers or the Chiefs could be

573
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: three and oh they could be oh and three, they're

574
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: one in two. There's a lot of football left to

575
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: be played, a lot, and we get caught up in that.

576
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're a Chiefs fan. Okay, well, somehow

577
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: figure this out. It's like I tell people with college football,

578
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: wait till Thanksgiving. I know you want to say, I

579
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: know exactly what Clemson's going to be. I know exactly

580
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: what Oregon's going to be, or Ohio State or whoever

581
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: it might be. Now, I do know how Alabama's going

582
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: to be. But Ohio State losing, how do they rebound

583
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: Clemson out of the national title picture? Here? Same thing

584
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: with the NFL. You get a larger sample sizing and

585
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: you go, Okay, I got an idea what this team

586
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: is going to be all about. I mean, that's no

587
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: fun in this business. We like to tell you week

588
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: to week, we've got this figured out, because somebody's going

589
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: to win a game this next weekend. Where you gonna go.

590
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: I never would have thought that. It's because we're still

591
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: trying to figure out the teams are still trying to

592
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: figure out how good they are, who they are, who

593
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: they can count on. Brandon and Georgia joins us, Hey, Brandon,

594
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: what's on your mind going on? Y'all? I'll cus some

595
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,959
Speaker 1: to which I were talking about Trevor Lawrence. And you know,

596
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: we always like to talk about when a player is

597
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: being picked in the draft after college, but I think

598
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: it's equally important or more important who draft or you know,

599
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: who drafts you, which team drafts a player, And you know,

600
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: we can just look at Stafford Is as great evidence

601
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: to that because he went to Detroit and I mean,

602
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: great player, but just nothing really happened with it. And

603
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: now get him with the Rams. He's got a very

604
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: good chance of being the MVP and winning the Super Bowl.

605
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: And so I just I placed more importance on who

606
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: drafts a player. I think Trevor Lawrence, you know, if

607
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: he would have went to you know, let's say, with

608
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: Belichick up up in New England or for he would

609
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: have went, you know, somewhere else, then he would have

610
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: had a better chance of and probably would be playing

611
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: better than he is right now. Yeah, but you know,

612
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: Jacksonville has historically played better than the Jets have. And

613
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: that's the second pick. He could have gone to the

614
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: Jets and it could have been just as bad. And yeah,

615
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: he could have gone to New England and had obviously

616
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: an established coach, a good offensive line. Yeah, a lot

617
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: of it depends on If I've said this before, if

618
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is playing for the Jets, we would go, Wow,

619
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: that guy, he's fun to watch. At no point would

620
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: you go he could be the greatest quarterback of all time.

621
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Speaker 1: At no point you wouldn't. And you could say this

622
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: about a lot of quarterbacks in where they're taken in

623
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: the fact, like Tom Brady, Brady said to me years ago,

624
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: if he had been taken in the first round, he

625
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: probably still he probably wouldn't still be in the league.

626
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: Those are his words, because he needed to have time.

627
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:24,239
Speaker 1: He was with the playoff caliber team and you know

628
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: he was able to sit on the sidelines watch Drew

629
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: Bledsoe got his opportunity, got a really good team, defensive

630
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: minded team, and he provided just enough offense and then

631
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: Vinitary kicks a field goal. I mean, that's the magic

632
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: in all of this. But if Drew Bledsoe doesn't get hurt,

633
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's not the greatest quarterback of all time, It'd

634
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: be delayed years and then Bledsoe got traded to Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Probably a couple more phone calls in here Joe and Oregon.

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Speaker 1: Hi Joe, what's on your mind today? Hey Dan? How

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Speaker 1: e um So. I just want to ask you what

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Speaker 1: that's why guys lose jobs because of stupid things like that. Yeah, McClue,

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