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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Everybody? Welcome into another edition of Crush City Territory Channel

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Speaker 2: the room, joined by Tyler Stafford and Josh Reddick, who

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Speaker 2: is making a comeback, announced this week that Josh will

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Speaker 2: be participating in a home run derby in Round Rock. Josh,

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Speaker 2: I know you're training, and I know you're you're getting

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Speaker 2: built up, but uh, the Ashers may need you because

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Speaker 2: they need a left handed bat in the worst way.

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Speaker 2: And that's only been accentuated what's happened the last couple

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Speaker 2: of days here in Denver. Are you ready if Dana

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Speaker 2: Brown calls and approaches you with maybe a minor league deal.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm the best option they have. I'm local, I'm ready.

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Speaker 3: I might need like two weeks of facing hits somebody

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Speaker 3: in two weeks and I'm cheap, super cheat.

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Speaker 4: There you go, crazy negotiations, Josh.

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Speaker 2: I was about to say, you are you do? You

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Speaker 2: would come pretty cheap it? Would you take a minor

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Speaker 2: league deal?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll take one as well if they're offering it.

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Speaker 3: I'm still local, still right by the ballpark technically, mm hmm, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean I could. Hey, I may not be his

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Speaker 3: fleet of foot now, but you're not worried about me

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Speaker 3: playing outfield anymore.

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Speaker 1: Slap me in the d H three times a week.

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Speaker 1: We're good.

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Speaker 2: You can you can play like left, you can play

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Speaker 2: left and dyke in. I mean, there's not a ton

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Speaker 2: of You don't have to be fleet of foot to

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Speaker 2: play out there.

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Speaker 1: That's true.

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Speaker 3: You can pick you can pick some better spots with

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Speaker 3: me than some other options that have been there.

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Speaker 4: You can't be that much older than alt right.

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Speaker 1: I think he's like, he's what thirty four, thirty five?

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Speaker 1: Just five, Yeah, I'm thirty eight.

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Speaker 4: Easy, Yeah, you can.

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Speaker 2: If if al twov can do it, you can do it.

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Speaker 1: That's what's so.

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Speaker 2: Unless Dana Brown does approach Josh with a minor league

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Speaker 2: deal in the next couple of days, it's becoming pretty

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Speaker 2: clear that the Astros are are going to be in

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Speaker 2: the market for a bat by the end of this

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Speaker 2: month of July thirty first trade deadline, because we discovered

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Speaker 2: yesterday here in Denver that Jordan Alvarez has stuff in

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Speaker 2: another setback, and there's a lot of reaction. Obviously, a

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Speaker 2: lot of people are very upset with the way this

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Speaker 2: trajectory of his rehab has gone. This is now the

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Speaker 2: second time since the initial injury that he has progressed

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Speaker 2: to swinging and facing pitching and then reported some more soreness.

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Speaker 2: Jordan's going to see a hand specialist today. We're recording

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Speaker 2: this on Wednesday. The Ashers hope to know more in

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Speaker 2: the next forty eight hours. Whether they reveal what they

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Speaker 2: know is another story entirely. I'm not a big like.

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Speaker 2: I pride myself on like being able to read between

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Speaker 2: the lines, like reading past the cliche. You know, coach

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Speaker 2: GM speak, players speak cliche stuff like that. The body

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Speaker 2: language in Denver yesterday was not good. Dana Brown, who

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Speaker 2: is normally very positive, normally very optimistic, uh, did not

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Speaker 2: sound like that. It came out of absolutely nowhere, Like

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Speaker 2: none of none of the beat writers on the trip

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Speaker 2: even had an inkland this was coming. It was a

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Speaker 2: complete bombshell that was dropped on us yesterday. I I

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Speaker 2: don't want to be this alarmist, but I think it

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Speaker 2: would be at this point it would be a surprise

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Speaker 2: if jord And Alvarez is back at any point this season,

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Speaker 2: just given the way this has gone and the way

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Speaker 2: he is now. I mean, you don't have two setbacks

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Speaker 2: like this and then just completely rebound it's it's it's

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Speaker 2: going to be a difficult road back for him this season.

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Speaker 2: And you know, Dana was asked yesterday is surgery an

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Speaker 2: option and he didn't say no. He said it's too

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Speaker 2: early to tell right now. I hope not well know

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Speaker 2: after he sees the specialists. So, guys, what was your

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Speaker 2: gut initial reaction when you when you read or you

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Speaker 2: saw that that you'd not is gonna stop swinging a bat?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 4: I did not like it one bit. I'll go on

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Speaker 4: record as saying, I I don't appreciate it. What what's happening?

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Speaker 4: Like what you know? I'd say he got a hand

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Speaker 4: it to him, but I don't. I don't want to

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's it's rough man like again, It's it's

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Speaker 4: it's the it's the setbacks that hurt the most because,

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Speaker 4: It's like what you know, what is going on? It's

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Speaker 4: confusing because he'd been swinging, So I don't I don't

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Speaker 4: get like what hurt more? I mean, I mean, I

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Speaker 4: know it just happens. Like I'm not insinuating you know

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Speaker 4: anything there. I know his hand is hurting. I would

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Speaker 4: hope that they had consulted a hand specialist before. Now

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Speaker 4: I'm if I'm the Astros, I have yord On on

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Speaker 4: a flight every other day to see the top five

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Speaker 4: hand specialists in the in the country, in the world. Really,

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Speaker 4: I don't care. Get him, get him a passport. Let's

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Speaker 4: get this man on a flight. Okay, well look I am,

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Speaker 4: I'm there just making sure we're covered. Okay, thank you. Uh,

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Speaker 4: but you know, let's let's figure this out, like what

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Speaker 4: what is happening.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, I I you know, with with what

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Speaker 3: I mean, injuries happen, plenty of setbacks happen on rehabs,

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Speaker 3: and you know, whatever your opinion may or may not

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Speaker 3: be about how it's handled, how it's not being handled,

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Speaker 3: it obviously sucks pretty pretty big.

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Speaker 1: And when you think about it, it's we don't really

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Speaker 1: know yet. So I mean, yeah, I'm with you on

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Speaker 3: I feel like that would have been, you know, step

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Speaker 3: like that should be somewhere in the books about Hey,

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Speaker 3: if I'm the player and my agent and I.

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Speaker 1: Are talking, that should be something we should.

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Speaker 3: Have to you know, if something if the team's not

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Speaker 3: going to suggest it, you're like, you know, you have

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Speaker 3: I want to go get this done. I want to

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Speaker 3: make sure I can make sure get everything right.

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Speaker 1: Just make sure you get it right. So who knows.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he was right and then felt something down in

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Speaker 3: what I think it might be.

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Speaker 1: But you know, it screens hanmdmate bone. To me, what

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Speaker 1: and if people don't know what the handmad bone.

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Speaker 3: It's a little bone about right here, and it's very

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Speaker 3: common baseball injury and it takes you a little surgery

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Speaker 3: and you just remove that handmate bone where you had

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Speaker 3: that's what this says to me, is hanmdmate bone. I

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Speaker 3: hope hopefully it's not, but at this point we're talking

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Speaker 1: He's probably not getting the batter's.

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Speaker 3: and if surgery is an option, he's not gonna have

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Speaker 3: anyway for something so significant, because you get to think

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Speaker 3: about when you ever rehab on something like that. You

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Speaker 3: progressively build. It's like a two week stretch, two and

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Speaker 3: a half week stretch of just building your hitting in

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Speaker 3: and rerupture anything else in your hand from the surgery.

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Speaker 1: So hopefully we'll find something out in two days.

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Speaker 3: And if it is, you know, I think we'd all

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Speaker 3: We all just want to know, like, if it is

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Speaker 3: something that needs surgery, let's just knock it out and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the handmaid, but I mean, obviously we don't

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Speaker 4: know that that's what it is. But that's the one

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Speaker 4: that like Trout had too, and it took him like

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Speaker 4: you have to build up your grip strength. It's still hurts.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's a it's gone from like, oh, his

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Speaker 4: very concerning injury, not just for you know, today, in

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Speaker 4: the next couple of weeks, but like, man, I don't

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Speaker 4: Initially it's it is very very concerning.

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Speaker 3: And tut Trout took a little longer to come back

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Speaker 3: now to look that far ahead.

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Speaker 2: I do want to make a note that Dana Brown

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Speaker 2: it was not. He said they've done imaging and that

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Speaker 2: it was not a handmaate bone issue. Now, whether that

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Speaker 2: timeline here, so he is not Jordon has not played

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Speaker 2: They revealed to us that he had the fracture on

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Speaker 2: May thirty first, So remember he had taken live BP

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Speaker 2: see it. Blah blah blah. He did not return to

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Speaker 2: June twenty ninth, so he went a month between setbacks

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Speaker 2: as Dana Brown describe it, they really just wanted to

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Speaker 2: things like that. He did take some swings during the

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Speaker 2: not going to be swinging again for another month if

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Speaker 2: it's the same level of setback as he had the

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Speaker 2: last time when they found the fracture. So the calendar

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Speaker 2: you do kind of wonder if you're going to see

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Speaker 2: him back this season. And I know the the knee jerk,

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Speaker 2: and the knee jerk reaction is to, you know, blame

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Speaker 2: the training staff, blame the medical staff because they have

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Speaker 2: not bathed themselves in glory this season. It has not

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Speaker 2: been ideal from a public relations standpoint for them. I'll

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Speaker 2: And we'll talk about Jeremy payon a little bit, but

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Speaker 2: Jeremy Panna is on the injurd list with a fractured

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Speaker 2: rob jord and Alvarez they had to redo the imaging

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Speaker 2: thought about though, with what we're talking about. Obviously, like

436
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Speaker 2: from a team standpoint, it would make zero sense for

437
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Speaker 2: Jeremy Panie to play again before the All Star break.

438
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Speaker 2: But I wonder from from I want this perspective from

439
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Speaker 2: a former player, you know, Jeremy Pane is in his

440
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Speaker 2: second arbitration season. Numbers matter, Numbers matter for his salary

441
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 2: after this season. Numbers mat mean he is an MVP.

442
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 2: He's an American League MVP candidate too. Like this is

443
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Speaker 2: not there is some personal pride here of like he

444
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 2: I know, before the season, one of his goals was

445
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,679
Speaker 2: to play one hundred and sixty two games. That's obviously

446
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 2: not going to happen now and it's out of his control.

447
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 2: But there are guys that want to get out there

448
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 2: and post and they need to. They want their stats

449
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 2: to keep growing for various reasons, for personal pride, for

450
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 2: an arbitration system that rewards a ton of a ton

451
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 2: of stats, a ton of performance, things like that, Where

452
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 2: is the balance there of knowing what's best for the

453
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Speaker 2: team and knowing what's best for yourself, but also understanding

454
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Speaker 2: that you want to get out there and you want

455
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Speaker 2: to put up as many stats as possible, especially when

456
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Speaker 2: he's having the season he's having.

457
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you obviously have that drive to want to win

458
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Speaker 3: and want to play, and then you know, take care

459
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Speaker 3: of yourself at the end of the day. But you know,

460
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Speaker 3: I think it just reverts back to long term like

461
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Speaker 3: you know you're missing. Obviously you're set that you got

462
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 3: hurt and you're gonna miss some time. But what you

463
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 3: know you've waited, however long to get six days before

464
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Speaker 3: the All Star break.

465
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Speaker 1: Are those six games you know.

466
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Speaker 3: Worth you re injuring something and instead of getting ten

467
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Speaker 3: days of extra rest or rehab that you might need

468
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Speaker 3: to make sure that you're one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: We all make mistakes.

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Speaker 3: Like I said earlier, you know I did the same

471
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Speaker 3: thing in twenty thirteen. I was playing through actually a

472
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Speaker 3: torn wrist tendon injury and never let it.

473
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Speaker 1: Fully heal, and it affected me every day and affected

474
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Speaker 1: my game at the plate.

475
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Speaker 3: So in the long run, he could be hurting himself

476
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Speaker 3: more than helping himself by coming back. So I would

477
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Speaker 3: definitely make sure that I was one hundred percent ready

478
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Speaker 3: to come back if I were him, because as hot

479
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 3: as he was going, as good as he was feeling,

480
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Speaker 3: that he should have no problem getting back to where

481
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Speaker 3: he was.

482
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Speaker 4: Look, I know stats matter, but I've always said ribs

483
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Speaker 4: over ribbies so fun when.

484
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Speaker 3: You think of these at night when you're laying in

485
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Speaker 3: bed or feeding your baby in like, no, this is

486
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Speaker 3: really good.

487
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Speaker 1: In the show.

488
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Speaker 4: This is a broken brain. This is just a man

489
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Speaker 4: with no sleep and a broken brain. And I'm I'm

490
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Speaker 4: listening to you guys, but I've got the like Zach

491
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Speaker 4: Galafanakis hangover meme of just how can I make a

492
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Speaker 4: pun out of this? So just know the ones that

493
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Speaker 4: I say are like ten percent of the ones that

494
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Speaker 4: are that are in my head.

495
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Speaker 1: So I had wonder go to x formerly known as Twitter.

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm, yeah, No, I had one earlier when we

497
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Speaker 4: were talking about fractures. I was gonna say, I've heard

498
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Speaker 4: of fracking, but fractures, but I thought that's not even

499
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Speaker 4: good enough to say on the show, so I'm not

500
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Speaker 4: going to say it. So yeah, no, this is this

501
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Speaker 4: is where I'm at in my life.

502
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Speaker 2: I can't believe you said you had a broken brain

503
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Speaker 2: and not a fractured brain.

504
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's on me, That's what that is. The imaging

505
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Speaker 4: is still waiting to come back to see what's actually

506
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Speaker 4: wrong up there.

507
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's a lot. There's a lot, a lot

508
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Speaker 2: wrong in Jeremy Payne's absence. I'd expect more re Shier

509
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 2: Dubond to get a lion's share of the of the

510
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 2: work at Shortstop. Joe Spotta seemed to indicate yesterday that

511
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Speaker 2: he likes the top three in his batting order the

512
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 2: way it is now without Pana, which means he's talked

513
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Speaker 2: Paradeo sole lead off, Jake Myers will hit second, josel

514
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Speaker 2: two veil hit third, Cam Smith will clean up, and

515
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: then go to the zoo with Tyler. But yeah, it

516
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: sounds like they're just gonna kind of stay afloat and

517
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Speaker 2: they'll find a way. They did here on Tuesday against

518
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Speaker 2: what I believe to be the worst baseball team I

519
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Speaker 2: have ever seen in person, professional amateur otherwise in the

520
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 2: Colorado Rockies. They won six to five. But the Rockies,

521
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: my god, that was something.

522
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 3: The twenty thirteen Astros were awful at least one games though.

523
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Speaker 2: This is like the twenty thirteen Ashers would kick this

524
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 2: Rockies team rear. Yeah, like it is. It is bad.

525
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 2: And I mean, they had thirty thousand people at the

526
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Speaker 2: ballpark last night, and I'm just half of them are

527
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Speaker 2: as fans, But like, they had thirty thousand people at

528
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Speaker 2: the ballpark and I'm like, they still draw crowds for this,

529
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 2: and like we're just sitting there, like how do they

530
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: watch this on a nightly base.

531
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Speaker 1: It is.

532
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Speaker 2: Ashers fans. Look, if you sat through twenty thirteen and

533
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 2: twenty twelve, like you get it. But for all of

534
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 2: you that complaining on the rare occasion, if this team

535
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 2: loses a couple games in a row, or there isn't

536
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 2: a great start, or like you don't agree with a

537
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 2: bullpen decision, or they don't you know, score as many

538
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 2: runs as you want to go to a Rockies game,

539
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: it could always be worse and you could have to

540
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 2: watch the Rockies for many, many, many games. One other

541
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 2: thing about Jeremy Payne's absence, it will basically force Jose

542
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: Al Tuvey to play more second base.

543
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: Joe A.

544
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Speaker 2: Spottas said that yesterday that he is going to play

545
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: more second base while Jeremy Payne is out, mainly because

546
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 2: Mauricio Dubon is going to be playing a ton of shortstop.

547
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: Mauricio Dubon was one of the options in left field

548
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: to spell out two van a lot of these ballparks,

549
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 2: but with that not being there, they're going to have

550
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 2: to just mix and match. I do wonder though, if

551
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Speaker 2: jord On Alvarez doesn't come back this season, or if

552
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 2: he's I mean he's obviously going to be out for

553
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: a prolonged period of time. Altuves already DHD twenty four

554
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 2: times this year, and I do wonder if it becomes

555
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 2: a situation where Jose al Tuvey is more of a

556
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 2: DH than anything, because they're already trying to be mindful

557
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 2: of keeping him off his feet, They're already trying to

558
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: be mindful of his age, things like that, and Jordan's

559
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 2: injury has allowed them to DH him more. And it's

560
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 2: pretty interesting when you look at his splits. He's got

561
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Speaker 2: an eight to eleven ops as a DH this year,

562
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Speaker 2: which is about seventy points higher than he has any

563
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 2: of the other two positions, left field or second base.

564
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Speaker 2: So it's odd though, Josh, because a lot of older players,

565
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: a lot of veteran players don't like to DH, but

566
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Speaker 2: it does seem like Altuve has taken to it, and

567
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: the numbers bear out that he is responding well to dhing.

568
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: I do wonder if going down the road this season,

569
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Speaker 2: if jord And Alvarez is unavailable for them for a

570
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: long period, whether we see just honestly, I'll two they

571
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 2: become more of the of a DH.

572
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Speaker 3: I hated DH and personally I think it's boring. It's

573
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,479
Speaker 3: hard to stay fresh, hard to stay loose for me.

574
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 3: But you know when you when you get older, it

575
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 3: becomes harder and harder to get going. So that's probably

576
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 3: why he likes being out there to keep those legs

577
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 3: a little fresher. But it's obviously doing something for him.

578
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 3: And you know, numbers don't lie, and you know he

579
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: may not appreciate it, but as we get older, we

580
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 3: might have to do a few things that we don't

581
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 3: want to really.

582
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Speaker 1: Be comfortable with.

583
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Speaker 3: And we all know how team driven Jose, how TV

584
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Speaker 3: is and how unselfish he is, and he'll do anything,

585
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 3: So I'm sure if they ask him her that he

586
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 3: will be right on board with it.

587
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Speaker 1: But I like it. You know, give him five days

588
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: a week to.

589
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 3: DH, throw him out there in the outfield, throw him

590
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 3: out there in the infield, you know, get him out

591
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 3: there a little bit. I wouldn't say full time DH,

592
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 3: but a seventy five percent time DH would be I

593
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Speaker 3: think fantastic, because you're gonna need.

594
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Speaker 1: Other guys that get those dhs.

595
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Speaker 3: You're gonna have the Kroteny Daz game. You're gonna have

596
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 3: days where Esto's gonna need DH days. Lets not forget

597
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 3: you know, he was coming back from injury.

598
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: This guys need it. You know, if you.

599
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 3: Don't have a guy like your done, then everybody can

600
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 3: kind of get their DH day that they could kind

601
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 3: of have a half day off as opposed to, you know,

602
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 3: grinding through not feeling great and having to play when

603
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 3: your daughters in there.

604
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: The only downside is something you just mentioned. You know,

605
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: without Alvarez on the roster, they don't have a true

606
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: left handed threat. And the reason Joe is playing Diaz

607
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 2: and Kartini so much is he needs Kerotini's He needs

608
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: to switch hitter in the lineup so that that is

609
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: going to take up most of the DH at bat's currently,

610
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Speaker 2: But on days when the Astros are comfortable, on days

611
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Speaker 2: when Kartini is catching, or the Astros are comfortable running

612
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 2: out a full all right handed lineup, it would make

613
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Speaker 2: a lot of sense for Jose al Tuove to occupy

614
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Speaker 2: that dhrol because no matter who they have behind him,

615
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 2: they are a better defensive options on the team to

616
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: play second base in Jose al Tuve. We have talked

617
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 2: about that at nauseum, and the one thing that they

618
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: are not going to jeopardize, and even as their roster

619
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Speaker 2: continues to suffer so much attrition, the one thing they are,

620
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: the one thing they're not going to sacrifice, is their defense,

621
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Speaker 2: because the reason that they are in these games, and

622
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: the reason that they are seventeen games above five hundred,

623
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: is because they pitch the crap out of it and

624
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 2: when they pitch it, and when there is contact made,

625
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: they catch the ball. They have the fourth best defensive

626
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 2: endfield in the major leagues, the second best defensive infield

627
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: in the American League behind the Toronto Blue Jays. This

628
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: is a really, really good defensive team and they do

629
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Speaker 2: not want to mess with that, especially on the infield.

630
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: And so that's why you're going to see maybe a

631
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: little bit more about two V at DH and some

632
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: other guys filling in at second base, whether that's luiski Orme,

633
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: whether that's Shay Whitam, guys that are a little bit

634
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: more short handed at the position than al two B.

635
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: But as we just said, they have no left handed

636
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: hitters on this roster, which means Dana Brown's got you

637
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: between now in July thirty first, and that is find

638
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: a left handed hitter. Maybe maybe it's Josh Reddick. Maybe

639
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: it's somebody else, but find a left handed hitter for

640
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: this team. We will talk about what this means for

641
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,479
Speaker 2: the Astros trade deadline right after a message from our

642
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: friends in fel Territory.

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Speaker 5: All right, Harry's is going to get an award here

644
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Speaker 5: MVP in the shaving world and aj if you want

645
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Speaker 5: to equate it to things that we talk about, it's

646
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Speaker 5: not expensive and it's super versatile right the company itself,

647
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Speaker 5: because there's other products that you can get on the site,

648
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Speaker 5: do odorin, body wash, et cetera. But for your everyday

649
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Speaker 5: shaving needs, Harry's has you covered. And you look at

650
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 5: the pricing, you look at the quality, and you're like, wait,

651
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Speaker 5: why was I using the old classic brand for a

652
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Speaker 5: long time.

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657
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660
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Speaker 5: Get the edge on your shaved with Harry's. Normally their

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Speaker 2: So it goes without saying. With jord On Alvarez on

668
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: the roster, this team was a bat short. The prospect

669
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: of playing without him for another sizeable portion of the

670
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: season just reiterates that the Astros have got to go

671
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: get a bat at the deadline, preferably left handed. But

672
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: at this point they need They just need more offense.

673
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: They need something to help them produce runs. There are

674
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: only nine teams in Major League Baseball that have scored

675
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: fewer runs in the Astros, which is remarkable when you

676
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: look at the Ashras being seventeen games above five hundred.

677
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: I still think it's too early to be throwing names

678
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: out there because you don't know. You still don't know

679
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: what is truly available. You don't know what teams are

680
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: going to sell, and the teams you do know are

681
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 2: going to sell are like the ones you watched last night,

682
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 2: and I don't I could be wrong, but I don't

683
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 2: think there's many Ashers fans that looked at the Rockies

684
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 2: and like, oh man, we need we need these dudes.

685
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: Cedric Mullins of the Orioles is obviously going to be

686
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 2: a name. Ryan O'Hearn of the Orioles is obviously going

687
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 2: to be another name. Both of them are rentals. O'Hearn

688
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 2: will cost more than Mullins because Mullins has not been

689
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: as good. O'Hearn is probably going to be an All

690
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 2: Star this season. He is going to cost a lot

691
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: more in prospect capital. The Ashers are going to get

692
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 2: outbid by basically every other buyer in a in a

693
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: bidding war if you if you will for any of

694
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 2: these players. So, but guys like I'm I'm stating the

695
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: obvious here, they have got to go at the deadline

696
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 2: and upgrade this lineup because if they are without Jordan Alvarez,

697
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: there's no trade they can make that is going to

698
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 2: replace Jordon Alvarez, replace that production, replace that you know,

699
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: stature and that the fear that he puts into an

700
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: opposing dugout. But they've got to do something, because this

701
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 2: lineup is struggling. The score runs and I'm not sure

702
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 2: if this is a sustainable way to win for the

703
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: next three months.

704
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: Who they go get? Who can they really afford? You

705
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: just said it. I mean they're gonna be outbid by everybody.

706
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: You know, prospect pool is very shallow for this team,

707
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 3: and it's gonna be very hard. It's gonna do like

708
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 3: they're going to be, you know, picking the last picking

709
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 3: fruit in the tree and you know, kind of last

710
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 3: to the fight in this regard. Hopefully, hopefully they get

711
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 3: lucky and who knows, they are the king at finding

712
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 3: somebody to get the job done, but that she's on

713
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 3: the pitching front, right, so so hopefully it's something they

714
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 3: can kind of flip flop and find that on the

715
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: they're hooting front as well. But i mean, like you said,

716
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 3: I mean, know, hern is a great option, But how

717
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 3: many other contenders are going to be looking for this

718
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 3: guy and have so much more to offer than what

719
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 3: the Astros had to offer.

720
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 4: What are you guys talking about? They have a top

721
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 4: one hundred prospect now they've got so much capital. Hey,

722
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 4: that's they had zero row a week ago. Moving on up,

723
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 4: that's that's infinitely more than they had, you know, a

724
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 4: week ago, So they're they're gonna just start creating them.

725
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean you're right, Like, look, nobody that

726
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 4: they're trading for is gonna drastically alter, Like, oh, this

727
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 4: is a championship caliber team now that they've got whoever

728
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 4: they're acquiring. But at this point, man, you got to

729
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 4: get anybody. You know, They're they're running out of of

730
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 4: humans to wear uniforms for them, So I mean, they've

731
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 4: they've got to find, you know, somebody that that can

732
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 4: fill those holes in the lineup for them.

733
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 2: You know, they do have a top one hundred prospect

734
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 2: in Bryce Matthews, and I certainly don't want to dismiss

735
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: the work he has done this season and the production

736
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 2: he's put up, but the fact that he has been

737
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 2: passed over for a call up as these injuries keep happening,

738
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 2: and as there is pretty ample and apparent runway for

739
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 2: him to get some regular at bats at the big

740
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 2: league level, that should maybe signify where he stands. They

741
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 2: don't think he's ready yet. They do not think he

742
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 2: is ready to contribute at the big league level and

743
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: play on a championship contending team. Now, whether you know

744
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: Dana Brown has talked about making more contact is obviously

745
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 2: his road numbers are inflated in the PCL. Where you

746
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 2: go to some road ballparks in the PCL, you hit

747
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: the ball in the air and it's a homer. You

748
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: go there are some launching pads. It's kind of like

749
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: playing at course field. Colton Gordon, the starter last night,

750
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 2: actually set after the game. Yeah, it's like pitching in

751
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 2: the PC all over again. So he was he was

752
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 2: more used to it than anyone pitching in the elevation.

753
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 2: But so you know, yes, they have a top one

754
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 2: hundred prospect, but other teams are also looking at you

755
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 2: know how the ashers are treating this, and they're probably

756
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 2: thinking themselves, Man, if that kid can't get called up

757
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 2: in this situation and this dire of a situation, like

758
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 2: the right right to be.

759
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: They may have a choice. They may not have a

760
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 1: choice to bring him up anyway.

761
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 3: I mean, with all these these bodies falling like flies,

762
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: you might just have you might run out of options

763
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 3: and this kid might come up. You know what, what's

764
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 3: it going to hurt you to give this kid thirty

765
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 3: to forty at bats? You know if he gets thirty

766
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 3: forty at bass doesn't do anything, you send him right

767
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: back down because at some point he's going to be

768
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 3: back up.

769
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: No, it's not like you're wasting a roster spot on somebody.

770
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: And you know the other the other thing that that

771
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: all these these two recent injuries have done too. You

772
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 2: know when you start, when you started to look at

773
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 2: who the astros can trade off the major league roster

774
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 2: if they're going to have to, if there's a directive

775
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: from ownership to stay under the luxury tax, which they

776
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: still are under the luxury tax as we speak. You know,

777
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: Mauricio Dubon was up there as somebody that profiled as

778
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: a as a logical trade candidate on a fully healthy roster.

779
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 2: Now that was when Alvarez was healthy. That was when

780
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: Kenya was like, they can't afford to trade him now,

781
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: like he's he's too valuable, like he's got he's got

782
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 2: to be able to play, Like they need him too

783
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 2: much to trade him. Victor Carrottini also profiled is making

784
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: six million dollars as someone that they could part with.

785
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: Now that's impossible too. He's your only switch hitter, he's

786
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 2: your only semilens of balance. On the roster. So you've

787
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: also now taken two of the most attractive trade chips

788
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 2: off of your major league roster, Like you can't trade

789
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 2: them because you have no one to come up. If

790
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 2: you do trade them, you have no one to come

791
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: up and backfill that. Like there's not a Mauricio Duban

792
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: waiting in the wings in Triple A. You know they

793
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: have Ceysar Salazar on the roster, but I think we

794
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: forget he's on the roster because he never plays, and

795
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 2: I I mean, that's your third cat. Would they all

796
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: of a sudden trust him to be the backup to

797
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: this run prevention monolith that deserve the victor. Krarttini and

798
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: Yinerdas deserve a lot of credit for how well this

799
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: pitching staff has performed, Like are they comfortable doing that?

800
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 2: Doesn't their actions have not shown it? So look, we

801
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 2: say this every year too, every year ween the deadline

802
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 2: comes about, we say how that they actuers have no prospects,

803
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 2: Like it's gonna be hard for them to get anyone,

804
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: and inevitably they do, Like there are players in this

805
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 2: system that other teams will like, Like don't don't get

806
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: me wrong, and it's maybe not the players that the

807
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: casual fan is. It's not the guys in the Triple

808
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: A box score every night. It's not the guys that

809
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 2: your wine get called up every time somebody gets injured.

810
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 2: It's more guys in the lower levels. It's you know,

811
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 2: young kids that you know, the real prospect heads and

812
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 2: the real people that are And I am not one

813
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 2: of them. I'm not going to put my name in

814
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: among these people. But just the people that really really

815
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: love the minor leagues and that, and that keep up

816
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 2: with the prospects a lot. That's not me, but those

817
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 2: are the guys, guys that they're familiar with, that teams will.

818
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: Like, but it may or may not make it right.

819
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 2: And prospects are always a lottery ticket, like there's risk here,

820
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: like prospects. I can't. I'm I'm so mad. We didn't

821
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: have this podcast last trade deadline, so we could have

822
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: talked about the Yusse Kakucie deal when like the entire

823
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 2: fan base wanted to burn the stadium to the ground.

824
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: And now you love it, I love it.

825
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: And now you look and Will Wagner actually just got

826
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 2: called back up to the Blue Jays. Good for him.

827
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 2: Joey Loperfido did not make the Blue Jays out of

828
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: camp and it remains in Triple A and Jake Boss

829
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 2: at Tommy John surgery. Again, not to say that Jake

830
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 2: Boss couldn't blossom into a two or three star two

831
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 2: or three after he recovers. It's not to say Joey

832
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: Liperfido can't get on a little roll and help. But again,

833
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: you have done like they prioritize the present for some

834
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: guys that maybe were overvalued in the public spectrum, and

835
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 2: it worked out great. It was a great trade for

836
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: Dana Brown. Who's to say he can't do that again.

837
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 2: So again, we say it every year that the Astros

838
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 2: don't have a ton of things to trade and inevitable.

839
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 3: It's Anta telling you.

840
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: He's very old.

841
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: He's he's he's perfect for baseball.

842
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 3: He walks, he strikes out, he hits homers, and he's

843
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 3: a d h and he's a switch hitter.

844
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 1: He solves all your problems. I heard it here there

845
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: you go to this yesterday. We're just playing it off

846
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: like I just made it up.

847
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: He also has a three sixty two slugging percentage and

848
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: a ninety five ops plus, so he probably would fit

849
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: in fine with this team.

850
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: Thatinery he likes hitting here. He can go everywhere in

851
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: this ball park.

852
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 4: Oh, the Astros are great at acquiring old first basement.

853
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 3: And he's not playing he's not playing for base Okay,

854
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 3: even better.

855
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, we we talked about how Dubon is no longer

856
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 4: an option to trade. I don't want to go down

857
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 4: this road, but is is there another person in the

858
00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 4: Astros organization that is capable of playing shortstop? Like is

859
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 4: Dubon just locked in there forever now?

860
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 5: Like?

861
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 4: Who else can play short stuff?

862
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: I mean, they could put wickhamb out there, they could

863
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: put Luiski Ormey over there. I think think Ormey is

864
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 2: a little better at third base, like just but he

865
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: is he is a left side of the enfield guy.

866
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: But I wrote this on the Athletic this morning, like

867
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: they view Dubon as unquestionably their best defensive option at shortstop,

868
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 2: and that's why he's going to get the lion's share

869
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 2: of the time because they are not They do not

870
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 2: want to sacrifice their defense because they understand that is

871
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 2: a crucial, big part of why they are where they

872
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: are right now. But in Triple A, they have a

873
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: guy named He's sus Pastidis, who's been around forever. I

874
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 2: if they really got into a bind, I bet he

875
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 2: could come up and help. Zach short is down there,

876
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 2: a veteran journeyman infielder that was in camp on a

877
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 2: minor league deal. He's down there too. He could he

878
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: could help as well. But no, I mean this is

879
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 2: I mean, when you have Jeremy Paanna, you're not supposed

880
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: to have like a stockpile of short stops ready to go.

881
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: You know, this is this is the worst case scenario outcome.

882
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: So I don't blame them for not having shortstop. But yes,

883
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: I mean Mauricio Dubon, is it like that? That is

884
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 2: that is their shortstop? Yep, well there you go. Yeah,

885
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: it's but and look that you could do a lot

886
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: worse than replacing a gold Glove winner with another goal

887
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: glove winner, which is what the Ashers did with Mauricio

888
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 2: Dubon utility gold glove winner in twenty twenty three. You

889
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: got a ton of action last night at Coursefield and

890
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 2: handle it it all as you would expect, just fields

891
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 2: like that is the and and it's been one of

892
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: the pleasures of watching this team is that they I

893
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: used to say Josh and maybe you did this too, Josh,

894
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: when when the when the infield was still Bregman, Correa,

895
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: Guriel and Altuve, before you know, the decline, the defensive

896
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 2: decline started. It was so fun to watch those four

897
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 2: guys take in field, like I would go on the

898
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 2: backfields in spring training just to watch Joe and Joe

899
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: was the bench coach, just to hit them fungos and

900
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: watch them take infield. It was such a fun experience

901
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: to watch that. I get those vibes with this infield

902
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 2: like they are a really good defensive team and their

903
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 2: outfield they run everything down. Jake and center camp Smith

904
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 2: had two had an impressive catch last night against the

905
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: chain link fence and a big outfield. It has been

906
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 2: a pleasure to watch this team play defense, and they

907
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 2: deserve kudos because it was not a good defensive team

908
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 2: last year and they have overhauled a lot and they

909
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 2: look like one of the better defensive teams on the sport.

910
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, it was, you know one. It was

911
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 3: so much fun to even just play behind them because

912
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 3: you just knew that errors were in a very very

913
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 3: rare situation and just watching, you know, the guys, the

914
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 3: guys that stood out to me were like Correy and

915
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 3: Brigman on that left side. It just felt like nothing

916
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 3: got through and if you know, if it was tough,

917
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 3: they made it look easy, and if it was hard,

918
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 3: they made it look a little bit less hard. And

919
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 3: you know, crav was always in everything because of the

920
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 3: freaking hundred mile and our bullets that he throws everywhere

921
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 3: around the stadium. And he's also very tall, so that

922
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 3: definitely helped, but kind of lowered. Yeah, this team has

923
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 3: a lot of comparison to that when you look at

924
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 3: defensive run saved and that kind of way. I mean,

925
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 3: just watching what you know, Jake is a very we

926
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 3: know how good Jake Myers is. I feel like Jake's

927
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 3: very underrated in the Major League about how good he

928
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 3: is at the center fielder.

929
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: And then obviously we know what Cam's capable of.

930
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 3: And him just going out there and being a natural

931
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 3: athlete and handling things and.

932
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: Being able to adapt has been very fun to watch.

933
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 3: But you ain't kidding when you got guys like that

934
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 3: running stuff down, and I think that's what they focused on.

935
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 3: You know, they realize that, you know, we may not

936
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 3: have the same lineup we have have always had. We

937
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 3: have to really nail down on pitching and how we

938
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 3: focus on our defense, and that seems to be their

939
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: focus of doing everything to get them wins, and it's

940
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 3: it's definitely paying dividends right now.

941
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 4: How's this team two games back from the best record

942
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 4: in the American League?

943
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: It?

944
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 4: I mean it just again, it's speaks to the depth

945
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 4: that they clearly have and something about the team gelling

946
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 4: together and and the way it's constructed. But also a

947
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 4: lot of really good pitching. We get a Hunter Brown

948
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 4: start against whoever's on the Rockies, so we'll see that.

949
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 4: I mean, I watched the whole game yesterday and I

950
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 4: don't think I could tell you three people on the Rockies.

951
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 4: So we'll find out, uh, you know how how that goes.

952
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 4: But I think I think I speak for everyone when

953
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 4: I say let's no more injuries. I think we can

954
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 4: all agree no, no more of those. It's not fair.

955
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 4: So no more because eventually you're going to stop being

956
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 4: able to pull a rabbit out of your hat and

957
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 4: and replace each guy that goes down. They they haven't

958
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 4: stopped yet, but man, are are are they running? Then?

959
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 1: Chamer is right. Ryan McMahon is still on that Rockey team.

960
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 2: Correct, he is. He pinched hit last night late in

961
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 2: the game and Brian A Bray who made him look

962
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 2: absolutely foolish.

963
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: He's not starting every day.

964
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: Then they gave him he's a Yeah, he's a lefty

965
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 2: and they faced Colton Gordon last night. He's a lefty.

966
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 2: He does have a pretty sizable extension I signed. He

967
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:27,479
Speaker 2: signed a six year, seventy million dollar extension. I don't

968
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 2: know if Jim wants to take that money on it.

969
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 2: And also like and I should have made this point earlier,

970
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 2: like you do have to look at what they have

971
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 2: in the future too, Like they they're not going like

972
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 2: this is the most primed for just a rental acquisition

973
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 2: because you look at this team and both of their

974
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,479
Speaker 2: corners are set through the next two years. Uh. Their

975
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: catcher is under team control for the next four years.

976
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: Like you look at their outfield, Cam Smith's under control

977
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 2: for five years. Jake Myers has another three years left.

978
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: Like this is not a team where like you're gonna

979
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 2: acquire someone that has a bunch of uh club control.

980
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, like he's a part of our future,

981
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 2: Like no, like this is this this screams like just

982
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 2: get us something to give us a boost in October.

983
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: Like we need we need a Trey Mance right walked

984
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: out one.

985
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 4: Yep, yep, you never know the Roads legend, World Series legend,

986
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 4: best best ground out catch of all time.

987
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: Let's look what I found catching history of the World Series.

988
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 2: I will take it as John Smoltz said that night

989
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 2: on the broadcast, that ball caught him. He did not

990
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 2: catch that ball caught him. The Braves also just dfa

991
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 2: Alex Rdugo who we who? We uh wondered this offseason

992
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 2: if the Ashes kicked the tires on. They did not,

993
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: and perhaps for good reason, because he was awful with

994
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 2: the Braves.

995
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: He was good for his first five games.

996
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, to the tune of a sixty five o ps

997
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 2: plus and a two eighty nine slugging percentage. But again, but.

998
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 4: That's who's available. These are the people who you can

999
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 4: go get.

1000
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: I mean, if the Astros would like pluck him off waivers,

1001
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 2: like they only owe him the pro rated league minimum

1002
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 2: on a one point five million dollar deal, like there

1003
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: are worse like options to consider, but he has not

1004
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: performed well this year. But hell, the way the season

1005
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: is going, it does seem like anyone that has performed

1006
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 2: poorly in the past, is just going to come into

1007
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 2: this clubhouse and you know, hit eight homers and in

1008
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 2: their first week on the on the team. So who knows,

1009
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 2: Maybe they could look to Alex for Dougo. Maybe they

1010
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 2: could look to Josh Reddick to help solve a lineup

1011
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 2: that is going to hit the guys.

1012
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, we get to see a hit in a minor

1013
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 4: league park, so you know, we'll get a good sense

1014
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 4: of where you're at. So just just hit a bunch

1015
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 4: of dingers, make me.

1016
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 3: Strike out or go deep, so I'll fit right into

1017
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 3: the major League Baseball protocol today.

1018
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 4: If you strike out in the home run Derby, I'll

1019
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 4: never let you hear the end of it.

1020
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: I'll talk about minor league ballpark. I'm talking about game

1021
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: strake out home run derby. I've never picked up a

1022
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: bat ever.

1023
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 2: Again, who's pitching? Who's pitching?

1024
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 4: Do you get?

1025
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1026
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 3: They said it's gonna be some major league like VP throwers,

1027
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be somebody good.

1028
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: It better be going up against. You know, I should

1029
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: be Hall of Famer.

1030
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 2: Uh.

1031
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,439
Speaker 1: Kevin Mallar and then Adrian Gonzalez was pretty darn good.

1032
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 3: The good thing is all the fences are like three

1033
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 3: hundred feet, so like you got definitely gonna help. You're true,

1034
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 3: I've got youth on my side. I got you on

1035
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,439
Speaker 3: my side compared to all three of them.

1036
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 4: So how many of the fancy round rock donuts are

1037
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 4: you gonna eat while you're up there?

1038
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: At least three?

1039
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 4: At least three in between each each round of the

1040
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 4: home run derby. You should just be crushing donuts.

1041
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 1: Maybe I just crush them as my teammates are hitting,

1042
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: and then you know, because we're gonna probably stay at

1043
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: the water park across the street taking the man taking

1044
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: a little man to Khala Hari. So that'll be a

1045
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: fun little crip.

1046
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 2: You could probably pay Broka enough to come through you

1047
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 2: come three derby BP.

1048
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: I could probably reach out to Broca and he would

1049
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: probably come do it for free. He reached out. He

1050
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: reached out to me for that when I did with

1051
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 1: the Conseco derby. He said, Puppy, if I'm not busy,

1052
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: I'll come throw to you, and I'd like, brock, I

1053
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: love you. He throws you hard for me.

1054
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 3: I tried to go in for his VP even when

1055
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 3: I played when I was good and he was blowing

1056
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 3: my doors off.

1057
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't rock, I can't do it hard.

1058
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 2: So who who would you take it off off?

1059
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, who was it was the first? Oh god,

1060
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: I mean it's been so dang long. I came in.

1061
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: Who threw BP to us? I think I got plenty

1062
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: from a spot? I think Joke threw it in. Honestly,

1063
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 1: can't remember.

1064
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 2: Michael Collins catching coach. He'll often throw some.

1065
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: He's usually like, he's usually the third round. Yeah, he

1066
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: was a third round when I was there. But it

1067
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: was it was. It had to be somebody good.

1068
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 3: But if I had to pick somebody to overall to

1069
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 3: throw me BP in a derby, it'd be Bob Melvin.

1070
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 3: Probably maybe not today, but Bob Melvin in like twenty twelve.

1071
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: Thirteen fourteen, elite BP through money money batting practice.

1072
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 2: It's the rare manager throwing VP that never usually happens.

1073
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: But he loved it.

1074
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 2: Really, he was Bob. He was a catcher, right he played, Yeah,

1075
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 2: that's right here.

1076
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: Catchers and infielders, man, they're the best BP throws on

1077
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: the planet.

1078
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 2: Interesting, well, the Rockies did have the only pitcher that

1079
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 2: was a manager in Major League Baseball and Bud Black.

1080
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 2: He was relieved of his duties. It has not helped.

1081
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 2: If you watched the Rockies last night. Really relieved is

1082
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 2: the correct word.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he's probably, He's probably he was relieved that it happened.

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Speaker 2: He's probably happier than anyone. So Course Field has not

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Speaker 2: had a no hitter since nineteen ninety six. It's the

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Speaker 2: only no hitter ever thrown at course Field is by

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Speaker 2: Hedeo Nomo. I'm not saying Hunter Brown's gonna do that tonight,

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Speaker 2: but the conditions are right because Hunter Brown's really good.

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Speaker 2: This Rockies lineup is not. I still think it'd be

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Speaker 2: a long shot, but who knows. Keep your keep your Intenta.

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Speaker 2: You could see some history tonight at Coursefield, and if

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Speaker 2: he does it, we will come back and talk to

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Speaker 2: you about it. But we will be back later this

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Speaker 2: week to recap everything that happens at Corsefield the next

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Speaker 2: two days and then preview a nice little weekend get

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Speaker 2: away to Chavez Ravine where the Astros will play Dodgers

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Speaker 2: and face show Heo Tani on Saturday, the Glorified opener

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Speaker 2: show Heyo Tani just what they signed in for seven

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Speaker 2: hundred million dollars to be the opener against the Astros

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Speaker 2: on a weekend series, but they've got to take care

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Speaker 2: of the Rockies first, and we will come back to

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Speaker 2: you when that is over. You can as always follow

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Speaker 2: rate and review us on Spotify. Leave us some comments

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Speaker 2: on some of these episodes. You can also subscribe on

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Speaker 2: a new video. As always, thank you guys for watching.

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Speaker 2: For Josh and Tyler, we will talk to you guys later.

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Speaker 4: Bye to