1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk on Buzz Night and this Women's History Month, 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: we're celebrating the women who don't just make history, they 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: help write it. My guest today on this Encore episode 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: is an actor, producer, singer, songwriter and also an author, 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: a woman who has spent decades shaping stories both on 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: screen and behind the scenes. She's used her platform not 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: just for entertainment, but for advocacy, philanthropy, and lifting other 8 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: voices in Hollywood and beyond. Rita Wilson has never been 9 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: content to just play a role. She defines them and 10 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: in this conversation from the past with her that touches 11 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: on creativity, resilience, the power of storytelling, at what it 12 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: truly means to give back. She's as candid and compelling 13 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: as ever. This has Taken a Walk and today she 14 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: wrote the book Rita Wilson and is next. 15 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: Walk. 16 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 3: Peter Wilson. 17 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: It's an honor to meet you and to have you 18 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: on the Taking a Walk podcast. 19 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: We're taking a Walk. We're walking afternoon time, I think 20 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: it is. 21 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to walk the lunch off, right or 22 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: the breakfast off, yeah, all of it. Yeah, Well, thank 23 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: you so much. Do you remember the first time in 24 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: your life that you were touched by music. 25 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: Well, yes, it would have to be the Beatles, and 26 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 2: it would have to be anything off their first album 27 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: that was released in the US, because it just engaged you. 28 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: You felt that they were speaking to you. Now, granted 29 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: I was like eight years old or less when yeah, 30 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: probably less when they came to the States, but or 31 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: that album came to the States. But nevertheless, I want 32 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: to hold your hand. I mean, every eight year old 33 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: is already fully aware of romance and what may await 34 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 2: them in their older lives, and so that just the 35 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: exuberance with which they sang was pretty great. 36 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: Would it be fair to say that's the first album 37 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: purchase was a Beatles album or forty five? 38 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: It was the first album given because we grew up 39 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: in Hollywood and there was a woman in the neighborhood. 40 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 3: She worked at Capitol Records. 41 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: And she would bring us on the day of release 42 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: an album and so me, my brother and sister would 43 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: you know, sort of fight over it. 44 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 3: But that's how we got the Beatles music. It was. 45 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 2: It was incredible. I mean, she was so sweet and 46 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: so generous to think of us. 47 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: You will appreciate this. So I grew up in Stanford, Connecticut, 48 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: not far from New York City, and we thought we 49 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: were so cool because we found this place. It was 50 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: called the Record Rack, and it was this little dive 51 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: record store in the center of town. And we would 52 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: go the day before when we knew a Beatles release 53 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 1: was coming out, and the guy would charge us a 54 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: dollar more because we would get it a day before, 55 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: and we thought we were so cool. 56 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 3: You were, you were. 57 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: He was ahead of his game with surge pricing, and 58 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: you were like, it's worth it to be that extra 59 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: dollar album because you wouldn't be the coolest if you 60 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 2: got it early. 61 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 3: Come on. 62 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't know if you could see if 63 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: you squint behind me, but the wall behind there. 64 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: Help is it? Yes? Yes? And I can't see. 65 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: But the one on the left, get my big head 66 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: out of the way. There's a Ringo album cover. And 67 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: then at the far side there is George Harrison's Cloud nine. 68 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's so great. By the way, just 69 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: a sidebar, I just saw that the fiftieth anniversary reissue 70 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: of All Things Must Pass is charting. 71 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: I love it, like multiple charts. How great is that? 72 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: Oh? 73 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: And what an amazing piece of work? That, you know, 74 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: just like everything around the Beatles holds up to this. 75 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: Day, it does, it does. I mean what they were 76 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: doing was so original and so. 77 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: Fresh. 78 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 2: And I know from you know, being lucky enough to 79 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: have had a couple of conversations with Paul McCartney and 80 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: George Harrison, that when they were making music, they just 81 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: wanted to keep making music and trying new things. And 82 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 2: you know, they didn't repeat themselves. That's why we have 83 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: such an amazing variety of music from them. And they 84 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 2: were just constantly inspiring themselves and doing. 85 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: New material. 86 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: They didn't stick to the same stuff that went like, oh, 87 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: I know this works and I know this is selling, 88 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: and they just were like, great, we can keep finding 89 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: new things to do. 90 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 3: I thought that was pretty incredible. 91 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: Now, first concert performance by an established act that you 92 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: ever attended. 93 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: Led Zeppelin at the Los Angeles Forum, and it was 94 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: everything you would hope it would be. You know, everybody 95 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 2: was in love with Robert. All the girls were in 96 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: love with Robert plant for sure. 97 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 3: And I. 98 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 2: Went with my two girlfriends that were identical twins. They 99 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 2: were about six feet tall, gorgeous girls. 100 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: With red hair, and we went together. 101 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 2: My mom made me my outfit, which was a little 102 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 2: Hawaiian print crop top and bell bottoms. You know, the 103 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: drawstring waste. I wore these big wedge sandals called Quirky's. 104 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: We were so excited, we were running to the Forum 105 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: because we didn't want to miss anything, and I fell 106 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: flat on my face in the parking lot because those 107 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 2: Quirky's are not to be used for running. 108 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: It did not dampen my love of the concert. 109 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: However, now I have to say, I think you'll agree 110 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: with this when we talk about rock stars aging gracefully. 111 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: Don't you think Robert Plant and Jimmy Page have aged 112 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: so gracefully? 113 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 3: They really have. 114 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: And I mean, let's talk about Paul McCartney and Ringo 115 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 2: Starr and Mick Jagger, who's you know. 116 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 3: You see him on stage and you're like. 117 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 2: Okay, that's eighty one, I'm in sign me up, I'll 118 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: do that. And then the women, Annie Lennox, Joni Mitchell, 119 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 2: you know who's made an extraordinary comeback, Carol King, Stevie Nix. 120 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 3: All of these people. 121 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: Have really just not only I don't want to call 122 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: it surviving because but they've lasted because the music was 123 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 2: so good and so. 124 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: Powerful without a doubt we're going to come back to 125 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: a few of those, particularly Joni, But congratulations on the single. 126 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: Look how far We've Come? Can you tell me about 127 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: that project and how that collaboration came together? 128 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: Yes, Look how Far We Come? 129 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: I wrote that with Billy Steinberg and Josh Alexander, his 130 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: new writing partner after Tom Kelly retired. And for people 131 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: listening who may not know who he is, you might 132 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: want to google him, but he's responsible for songs like 133 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 2: True Colors Eternal Flame. I touched myself, I drove all night. 134 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: I'll stand by you. You know, I could go on 135 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: and on alone by that heart did. And I was 136 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: a huge fan obviously of Billy's and we had some 137 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: mutual friends, and I met him and over the years 138 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: we would see each other and have this sort of like, 139 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 2: you know, lovely interaction. But I started doing the show 140 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: called liner Notes, which is songwriters telling the stories behind 141 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: their hits and singing them. And what is beautiful about 142 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: that is when the songs are written often on keys 143 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: or guitar, you don't hear that song played in that 144 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: way and sung by the songwriter because producers get a 145 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: hold of it and they make the song what they 146 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: want to make. 147 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: You know, Billy also wrote like a virgin. 148 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: So so when you know, I started doing these shows, 149 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 2: I had the guts and temerity to ask Billy if 150 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 2: he wanted to, you know, come to one and participate. 151 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 2: And he said yes, and he enjoyed it. So he 152 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: came back many times, and I'm so grateful for that. 153 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 2: It established our friendship more deeply and which I'm so 154 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: grateful for. But he also one day said, if you 155 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: ever want to write together, let's write and I was like, 156 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 2: what what? I just you know, I would never think 157 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: to ask somebody like Billy if he would want to 158 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 2: write with me, So I was immediately said yes, And. 159 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: Oh, I thought you were going to go. I'm sorry 160 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: to interrupt. I thought you were going to go. Well, Billy, 161 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: let me think about this and come right back to you. 162 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: Now, I'm kidding, no, right, And so so we wrote together, 163 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: and Billy is he started out as a poet and 164 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: is a poet to this day, and so as a lyricist, 165 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: he came to the session already with stuff for that 166 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 2: song and the. 167 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 3: Title of course, look off are we We've come? 168 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: I think you know, is really about a relationship and 169 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 2: you know, the ups and downs of a relationship. But 170 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: I also respond to it in a way that was 171 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 2: more about, look how far we've come if you're even 172 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: having a conversation with yourself, And so for me, it 173 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: resonated as, Wow, look how far I've come as a songwriter. 174 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 2: You know, I'm sitting in a room with Billy Steinberg 175 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: and somebody who would you know, spend time doing that 176 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: with me? Felt very humbling and also a moment to 177 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 2: reflect and be extremely grateful for where I was at 178 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: that moment in time. 179 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: Oh that's so special. Thank you for sharing that. 180 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 3: Thank you. Yeah. 181 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: So then now you're also up for a Grammy. Congratulations 182 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: for Best Roots Gospel Album. That is so exciting. I 183 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: want to hear about that, But I want to ask 184 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: you first, how difficult is it to be bending genres here? 185 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 2: Well, first, let me say that the roots gospel album 186 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: called Through the Storm. I'm sorry, the song is called 187 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: through the Storm. The album is called the Gospel according 188 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: to Mark, and the artist who put that together and 189 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 2: produced it is Mark d. Conklin, and he's an extraordinary 190 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: songwriter and the very soulful singer. And we had met 191 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: because we had done an interview because he was doing 192 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: something called the Grammy Experience and he interviewed me for 193 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: an album, and I just thought he was wonderful and 194 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: we had a great conversation kind of like we're having now. 195 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 2: And when this project came up, he asked if I 196 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 2: would want to sing with him on a track called 197 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 2: Through the Storm. 198 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: I said, of course I would. 199 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 2: I mean that would be beautiful, and I loved the 200 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: song when he sent it to me. 201 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 3: So it's not my album, but it is. 202 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 2: When you are on an album that is nominated and 203 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: it wins a Grammy, you also want to grab me 204 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: because you're part of that project, which is pretty great. 205 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: That is so awesome. Fingers crossed. Fingers crossed for that. 206 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: So you were part of the amazing Joni jam that 207 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: happened that the Hollywood Bowl, led by Brandy Carlyle of course, 208 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: and Joany and a array of people. How did all 209 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: that come together with your involvement, and can you give 210 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: us a glimpse behind the scenes what that special event 211 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: was like. Every time I watch clips of it, I 212 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: have to tell you, it's so beautiful. I'm in tears. 213 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:45,359 Speaker 2: Exactly how I came to be involved is Brandy Carlyle 214 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: and her wife Katherine Shepherd are fully aware of my 215 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: obsession with Jony and they said, we're going to be 216 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 2: doing a Jony Jam at the Hollywood Bowl and they 217 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 2: invited me to participate, which was mind blowing. Now, the 218 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: Joni Jam started because when Jonie had her aneurysm, it 219 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 2: took a long time for her to come out of 220 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: that and get healthy again, and Brandy and Catherine were 221 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: really responsible for helping her do that because they would 222 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: go to her house and they would do these Joni 223 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 2: Jams and they would sing music to Joni, sing her 224 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: own songs, invite other people to come and sing, and 225 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: eventually Janie started singing alaw and it was something that 226 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: reconnected her to I think, her own her own music, 227 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: her own recovery, her own health. And Brandy had the 228 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: great idea to do the Joni Jam and she of 229 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: course did it at Newport Folk Festival first and that 230 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: was huge, made an album from that, and that led 231 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: to the Hollywood Bowl thing. Brandy absolutely put together a 232 00:13:55,640 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: spectacular group of musicians and artists and on the stage, 233 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 2: I want you to know what this experience was like, 234 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 2: because you said you were in tears. We were all 235 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: in tears because the love coming from the audience in 236 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 2: the Hollywood Bowl and the love felt on stage was 237 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: an all encompassing surround sound of feeling. 238 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 3: You know, it just. 239 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 2: There was nothing better than that. It was palpable, and 240 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 2: there were moments, you know, the stage turned so Act 241 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: one of the show was Joni and Brandy, and then 242 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: Act too was the Joni Jam. So the stage rotates 243 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: on a turntable, and you know, they kind of did 244 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 2: a reenactment of her living room, so there were couches 245 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: and chairs and you know, all the artists sitting. My 246 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: couch partner was John Batiste, and next to me is 247 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 2: Annie Lennox and Alison Russell, and next to them was 248 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: Elton John and Meryl Streep. 249 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 3: Marcus Mumford was in front of me. It was a Jacob. 250 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: Call You're on keys, and everyone was there celebrating and 251 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: loving Joony and Brandy and it was powerful. 252 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: Oh I love it. 253 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 3: I have chills. 254 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: Seriously you talking about it, right. 255 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty. It was pretty goosebump Man. 256 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: And then you've got another Goosebump event that was captured, 257 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: the Patsy Kline performance event that will be coming out 258 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: in the New Year. That was done at the Rhyman. 259 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: I believe right. 260 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 3: It was at the Rhyman and it's a PBS special. 261 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 3: It's out now. 262 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: It's called Great Performances, Walking after Midnight Patsy Cline and 263 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: that was my reference earlier, Walking Afternoon Time. But that 264 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: was intimidating and it was nerve wrecking to do that. 265 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 2: I had been asked. I love Patsy Cline. Know, I listened. 266 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: She was on the radio when I was a kid, 267 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 2: and I loved her music and loved her song and 268 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: then you know, did a deeper dive you know later 269 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 2: as I got older, and she is known as having 270 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: one of the all time great voices. So if you're 271 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 2: doing if you're asked to sing a Patsy Klein song, 272 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: and this one I was asked to sing, She's Got You, 273 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: I was. I was intimidated and I worked hard on 274 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: that because I didn't want to blow it. You know, 275 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 2: the Rhymeen is one of the best places to perform. 276 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: It's a place that Patsy performed many times. Her daughter 277 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: was there, her grandchildren were there. And you don't want 278 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: to disappoint people, you know, you don't want them to 279 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: invite you to sing and then it doesn't work or 280 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 2: you blow it or something. So I was I was 281 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: very focused. 282 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: I should say, oh, well, you know, Patsy Kleine no 283 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: small item to be part of. Have you ever toured 284 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: that quantt Hut studio there in Nashville where Patsy recorded 285 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: and others like Johnny Cash and Bob Dylan recorded. 286 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I would love to know what that is. 287 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: I'd go visit there at a second. 288 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to do that, because then there's some 289 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: inside stories about Patsy's time in that studio, some classics. 290 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 2: How she was. 291 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: A you know, don't take any bull character. She was 292 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: as you could imagine, pretty tough. 293 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 2: Well I didn't imagine that, but when I read about 294 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 2: her and have heard some you know, audio on her, 295 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 2: she was very funny apparently, and. 296 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: Had very colorful language. She'll always say. 297 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: And I just didn't put that together because you know, 298 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 2: when she's she's so still and so. 299 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 3: Still. 300 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: I mean, it's like that, and so you kind of 301 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: think that somebody like that is very quiet. 302 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 3: In real life. 303 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 2: And that's what I love, that sort of dichotomy of 304 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 2: how somebody is in person and how somebody is when 305 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 2: they perform like I've met so many comedians that are 306 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: so hilarious on stage and they're very quiet in person, 307 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 2: so the reverse is also true. 308 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 309 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: I was surprised too. I thought, like you that, you know, 310 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: she would be much different than that. But definitely, tour 311 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: the quantst Hut Studio there it's you feel a presence there. 312 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: I really mean that you feel something from all the 313 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 1: performers that have been there in the past. 314 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure. Oh my goodness. So true. 315 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: So you completed a residency at the Cafe Carlisle in 316 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: New York City, and I want to hear about that experience. 317 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: But I'm going to make a comment and see how 318 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: you feel about this. First, I believe with the Cafe 319 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: Carlisle at the Carlisle Hotel, but also their smaller little venue, 320 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: the Bemman's Bar. There. If you are in a bad 321 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: mood and you go into the Cafe Carlisle or to 322 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: Bemmans to listen to music, to listen to Rita Wilson, 323 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: to listen to who's playing there, I promise you you 324 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: leave in a good mood. Do you agree with that? 325 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 2: I agree wholeheartedly, And I also would have to say 326 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 2: that I think music in general puts you in a 327 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: fantastic mood. So if you're in a bad mood, just 328 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 2: put on some music. It will transport you to a 329 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 2: better state of mind. But yeah, I love those places. 330 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: There's something to be said about these old venues like 331 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: the Rhyman, like the Cafe Carlisle or Bemoman's or the 332 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: Troubadour or you know, I went to the Blue Note 333 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 2: and I was in New York recently, and there's something 334 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 2: to be set. It's like the walls, the paint, the air, 335 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: those molecules have been They're just the same molecules that 336 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 2: have always been there, and you feel them, and that's 337 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 2: what it's like. You sense the people that have come before, 338 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 2: that have played, the people that have listened there. You know, 339 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: I always think when I do a show there and 340 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 2: the Carlisle is very intimate, but I kind of feel 341 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 2: this way generally. 342 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 3: You just have to make every place feel intimate. 343 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 2: Is that there is always somebody in that room that 344 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 2: needs to hear what you're singing and what you're saying. 345 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 2: And if there was just one person in every one 346 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 2: of these spaces and I had to perform, it would 347 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 2: be the same performance because I would know that they 348 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 2: were there for a reason. And there's something about the 349 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 2: intimacy of those plays is where people can actually talk 350 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 2: back to you, and sometimes or they shot at you 351 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 2: with nutshot, but they talk to you in the audience 352 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 2: and I like that. I think it's great. It's not heckling. 353 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 2: It's actually like they're part of it. The audience is 354 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 2: as much a part of the show as the performer is. 355 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: Those places are treasures. 356 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 3: Oh about question I are tell. 357 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: Me about In March, You'll be performing in Nashville with 358 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: the Symphony, right. 359 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really looking forward to that. 360 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 2: It's my first symphony show at the Nashville Symphony and 361 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: it'll be a combination of cover songs that I've done 362 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 2: on my albums, original material, and some material that I 363 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 2: have not sung before, and also maybe some I'm looking 364 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:57,959 Speaker 2: into adding, maybe some Broadway, just a couple of Broadway things. 365 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: That sounds exciting, And once again there you are challenging yourself, 366 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: pushing yourself to do some different things. 367 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm very much of the mind that 368 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 2: nobody should be boxed in because we're artists, we're creative people, 369 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: we are things are coming at us we're processing, we're writing, 370 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 2: we're sessing out what it is that we want to say, 371 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: and sometimes that doesn't necessarily mean that it's going to 372 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 2: look the same every single time. And I think it's 373 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 2: liberating to have that kind of a mindset. And I 374 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 2: don't believe necessarily in genres. I believe in good music, 375 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 2: and good music is good music, no matter what period 376 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 2: it is and no matter who the artist is. I mean, 377 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 2: I John Batiste has a new album out right now 378 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: that's called Beethoven Blues and it's his riff on Bethove. 379 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 3: I mean, how cool is that. 380 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: It's so it's so fresh, and it's still got everything 381 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 2: that you want, but it's not traditional and it's not in, 382 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: you know, any. 383 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,959 Speaker 3: Sort of genre. I guess it might be in a genre. 384 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 2: There's a genre for everything, but it's a little bit 385 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: outside the box, which. 386 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 3: I love well. 387 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: And I just had Julian Lennon on the podcast taking 388 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:29,239 Speaker 1: it full circle, right, Yeah, But we talked about and 389 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: he brought this up because he's got a photography book 390 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: out called Life's Fragile Moments, and he said exactly the 391 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: same thing. He said, why do people have to be pigeonholed? 392 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: I know that's not needed. Just let me do my 393 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: thing and create exactly. 394 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: You know, every creative person does more than one creative 395 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 2: thing anyways, because it's in need. 396 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 3: It's like it's it's part of you. You have to 397 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 3: do it. 398 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: And so, first of all, I love Julian's and I 399 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 2: love his photography. He is so talented and such a 400 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 2: lovely person. But I know every person I know that's 401 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: a creative person does something else, whether it's painting, knitting, sculpting, pottery, cooking, sewing, photography. 402 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 2: It's there's something that you have to do because you know, 403 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: we have a very actors have a very collaborative art form. 404 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: And it's not something like you just go around doing 405 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 2: monologues by yourself all the time, although maybe some people do, 406 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. But when you don't have that creative output, 407 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 2: if you're working on something, you need to put it somewhere. 408 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: So Rita enclosing, I'm going to turn the tables on 409 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: you a little bit and say, if you could interview 410 00:24:53,800 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: somebody living or dead to understand as a music their 411 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: creative process, who would that be? 412 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 2: Wow, you can't pick one person, like I guess I'd 413 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 2: have to say Paul McCartney. 414 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 3: You know, I probably would say. 415 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: Paul, it's a good one. 416 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he set the tone for all of us, 417 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 2: you know, they all did. The Beatles set the tone 418 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 2: for all of us, really, and so I would probably 419 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: want to interview Paul. 420 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: Rita. I'm so grateful I got to interview you. This 421 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: is one of the joys of my life, being able 422 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: to meet up with great folks like you and learn 423 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: about your creative process and celebrate your music. Congratulations on everything, 424 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: and it's an honor to have you on Taking a Walk. 425 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 2: Rita Wilson, thank you so much, See you soon, Stay 426 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 2: warmed in Boston. 427 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening to this episode of the Taking a 428 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 3: Walk podcast. 429 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: Share this and other episodes with your friends and follow 430 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: us so you never miss an episode. Taking a Walk 431 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,719 Speaker 1: is available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, and wherever 432 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts.